#2023_grads

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hearty walrus
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not sure if my resume is good enough for 2024 yet

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but im hoping to end my academia with 5 internships

vagrant escarp
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yeah i havn't even gotten to a technical interview yet lol

hearty walrus
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how many places have you applied for

vagrant escarp
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lost count

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but at least 400

hearty walrus
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oof man

vagrant escarp
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a handful of interviews tho

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maybe like 6ish

hearty walrus
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that's not terrible

vagrant escarp
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i wonder how long this is gonna last

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seems too hard to get an interview

fallen fox
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i cant even get an interview lmao \

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its over

vagrant escarp
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lol

fallen fox
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dec 2022 grad

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idk what to do

vagrant escarp
fallen fox
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i just need one interview lmao

vagrant escarp
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how many apps have u sent out

fallen fox
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lost track but at least 150-200

vagrant escarp
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ah

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have u had any internships?

fallen fox
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yep 2

vagrant escarp
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oh lol same

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is it fang company?

fallen fox
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nope

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one internship was at oracle

vagrant escarp
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o thats not bad

fair zinc
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nope

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I’m 2022 December grad

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not 23 December

fallen fox
autumn jolt
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Hey, a question for all the international grads out here. If a company is looking to hire early even before you graduate then what kind of work authorization/sponsorship is required? Can we apply for CPT for permanent full-time roles?

raw echo
fallen fox
raw echo
nova reef
autumn jolt
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Gotcha, I had the same understanding too. Thank you!

hearty walrus
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Any good resources for Code Signal problems?

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or just do leetcode

pure mauve
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hm probably 1point3acres, leetcode discuss, hackerrank?

hearty walrus
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i read their white paper a few times

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that helped

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q3 and q4 are annoying

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i just wanna do q1, q2, and q4 so i get 820+

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mostly dp and hash maps too

vagrant escarp
pure mauve
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yeah

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pay like 100 a month

vagrant escarp
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do people actually pay for it?

pure mauve
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yea

vagrant escarp
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dang thats a lot

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100

west egret
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Only LC premium worth paying for imo

vagrant escarp
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yeah i can agree with that

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only 30 for resources to actually improve

west egret
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Heard grokking is good too but you can technically get that without paying

vagrant escarp
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1point3acres could be good for passing OA but if they ask u to do it live or onsite u might be fked if they whip out a new question

pure mauve
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thats what you think

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lc premium worth paying for but u can get all the questions without premium

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but 1point3acres goes well into detail

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some companies its got p much the whole bank

vagrant escarp
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oh dang

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u have a subscription with them?

pure mauve
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yes

vagrant escarp
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have u gotten a job yet?

pure mauve
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have made to a bunch of finals

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passed some

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but got rescinded some, cancled my offers, or they ran out of headcount

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ive passed a bunch but no officla offer atm

vagrant escarp
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dang 100 a month is so much tho lol

pure mauve
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but you can do

vagrant escarp
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they do seem like they have an extensive database

pure mauve
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but

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what you can do is login everyday like 200 times

west egret
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100/month is a lot but if it works it works

pure mauve
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and when u hit a certain amount u can view some posts

vagrant escarp
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so there are ways to view posts without paying?

pure mauve
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yes

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but its alot of work

vagrant escarp
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dang...

pure mauve
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u literally log in every day

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for 200 times

vagrant escarp
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what if u do it 400 times

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u get to view 2 posts?

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is it like a point system or somethin

pure mauve
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u basically accrue points

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and you can see certain posts that require x amount of points

vagrant escarp
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i think u can make a program that keeps auto refreshing for u

west egret
vagrant escarp
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and just leave it on 24/7

pure mauve
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lc premium is

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good

vagrant escarp
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yeah i got LC premium

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idk about 100 a month tho

pure mauve
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but also when i say log on, you have to answer a survey question when logging on every day

vagrant escarp
pure mauve
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no every time

teal jackal
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im so hungry

vagrant escarp
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im hungry for a job

west egret
valid bramble
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Anyone heard back from Flexport after the 2 virtual interviews?

raw echo
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I scheduled my interview for next month cuz they were full for interviews, I think they are stack ranking candidates rn

valid bramble
valid bramble
raw echo
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yeah they moved my final back a week last week, not canceled tho

valid bramble
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That's good news, I think, at least they are still interviewing.

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someone heard from HR that Flexport paused hiring SDE1 roles

teal jackal
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I had some walnuts as a snack

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mmm refreshing

west egret
fossil jewel
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i had chocolate

pure mauve
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If anyone has done tiktok HM, could you dm me? Important questions to ask

fallen fox
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ty!

graceful crown
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Do you guys know any server for cybersecurity people?

vagrant escarp
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anyone whos struggling getting a SWE job applying in other industries?

vagrant escarp
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whats PM?

weary junco
vagrant escarp
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oh dont u need some kind of experience for that?

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i only have 2 internships

west egret
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Can be product manager as well

stuck moat
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Is Amazon still on the freeze?

fallen fox
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everything is on freeze

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its over

errant gorge
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flextrades is hiring

stuck moat
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Keep it up, once you get the first job its gonna be easier

errant gorge
fallen fox
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ty tho

lone rapids
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Flextrades doesnt hire intl?

fallen fox
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from the data they only sponsored 3 B.S intl students in the past 3 years so probably not

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maybe if you have a masters

dusky tapir
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For those of you who have 0 offer wen did you start applying and how many SWE internships did you have

vagrant escarp
fallen fox
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👆

blazing sonnet
vagrant escarp
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@fallen fox I look forward to updates from ur name

jovial latch
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at some point i stopped tracking my apps

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so i cant update my name lol

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though i think my name speaks for itself

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did a whole career fair thing today, im exhausted

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mind you a buncha companies literally showed up and were like 'yea we dont actually have any full time roles'

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but theres a few that might go somewhere

vagrant escarp
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yeah i need to find a career fair

jovial latch
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blegh, dont expect anything from one
spent like 6 hours at one in the fall, spoke to like 10-12 different companies, didnt hear back from a single one

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too many people looking for jobs

pastel bane
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any advice? I dont play games. could anyone recommend one easy to pick up?

daring gazelle
pastel bane
fathom arrow
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I feel like there’s gradually more oa and interviews coming in. Am I delusional or that’s the case

dusky tapir
rain patio
fathom arrow
dusky tapir
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I have no sympathy for sans-offer-cels who started the job search after august 2022

timber rock
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sans undertale??

teal jackal
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my reaction to that

pine topaz
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mans ask who has no offers just to roast them t_t

teal jackal
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to be honest maybe some people wanted to enjoy their fall 2022 semester

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without the job search stress

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and didnt realize how bad the economy got that quickly

pine topaz
livid yew
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@pine topaz 🥰

teal jackal
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is he going to zon?

vagrant escarp
dusky tapir
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I have an offer tho, unlike you. When I start a amz I’ll make ur entire salary in 4 mos

jaunty basalt
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Pinged the wrong person

tardy geode
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that's what my flatmate does

dusky tapir
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Lol Amazon calling zon peanuts. Unemployed ass mofo

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@rain patio the type to join a local company paying 60k instead of Amazon saying “uh durr everybody gets an offer from amz, it’s not that special” meanwhile he couldnt even pass the resume screen 🤣

livid yew
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So end of day it's all the same

tardy geode
livid yew
tardy geode
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Techie caught in 4k

livid yew
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Speaking of

pine topaz
livid yew
dusky tapir
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U realize if you didn’t withdraw you would prolly got delayed and gotten 13k for no reason. Also why would you withdraw in this job market? Ur obviously not that smart

gray dagger
livid yew
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No extension

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It's a feature on newest version

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Look up "tab groups"

gray dagger
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Nothing 🫠

livid yew
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Right click on a tab, and you should have the option

gray dagger
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Gotcha

knotty talon
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Damn this shit cringy

teal jackal
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Like we get it, a lot of people messed up big time by not realizing how bad the hiring scene got

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no need to rub it into their faces

timber rock
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this server is a breeding ground for ppl like that lmao

late kestrel
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dudes trollin lmao he aint srs kekw

rain patio
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bro it's ok, there's always next year

teal jackal
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most companies have nice offices nowadays

pine topaz
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i mean he has a patric bateman pfp

late kestrel
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dude hes 100% trolling

pine topaz
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so perhaps

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:3

late kestrel
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who flexes 13k and being under 6 foot

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cmon

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13k tho kekw

teal jackal
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why 5'11?

late kestrel
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just simply be over 6 foot

tardy geode
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bro that's cap lol

rain patio
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I always seee many tall Asians in nyc

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Maybe all the tall mfs move here

sonic coral
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Nah you just can’t see the short ones 💀

rain patio
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5’7 not bad

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5’5 is woman height

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Ur doomed

late kestrel
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shorty dogesmile

sonic coral
rain patio
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5’7 is normal for asian

sonic coral
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Lol what

rain patio
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Def not an inch

west egret
late kestrel
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it doesnt fluctuate that much

rain patio
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Its like few cm

late kestrel
rain patio
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Bruh shaved off an inch 💀

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Prb less than 1cm

sonic coral
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Sounds like I’m 5’10 💀

late kestrel
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google says "as much as 1cm"

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but i will say, 2cm is a lot

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like almost too much

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amirite or amirite

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the comments on that site kekw

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"I already said I am 6'0.25 but I round down and just claim 6'0. Do you think I can get a away with a 6'1 claim?"

teal jackal
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yeah you can round up to 6'1

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I round up all the time

tardy geode
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prayge for ng hiring

rain patio
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Why flame coming out of his head

fossil jewel
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he’s thinking

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very hard

tardy geode
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Oreos 4KEKW gg mate , good one

tardy geode
chilly burrow
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So if I stand on 1 foot I'm 6'2 and on the othr 6'3

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I just round down to 6'2

sonic coral
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I’m flat footed so does that mean if I fix that I gain an inch KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

late kestrel
night marsh
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Should I reach out to a company and tell them I am a citizen? They said they can't move forward because they can't sponsor OPT but I'm pretty sure I put down that I'm a citizen and it's also on my resume lmao

sonic coral
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Also your resume says you’re a citizen lmao?

rigid quail
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skills

  • US citizen dogesmile
sonic coral
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Generally your application should say you’re a citizen so if they miss it that’s kinda scuffed tbh

teal jackal
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just tell them

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yeah

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they're idiots for not seeing it

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but its still an opening

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prayge the corolla gr takes enough demand off the civic type r that I can get a civic type r for msrp in 2025

glass egret
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the asian tryhard to be andrew tate. on god

glass egret
night marsh
sonic coral
night marsh
sonic coral
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How do you specify it lol

night marsh
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"US Citizen"

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Then contact info after that

sonic coral
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Near your city / email?

night marsh
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Yes

sonic coral
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Could you post the anonymized version of the header im just curious how the format looks

night marsh
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I'll do it once I'm back at my laptop

sonic coral
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Bet

night marsh
night marsh
sonic coral
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I’ve never considered doing that lol

night marsh
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I did it just in case

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The "just in case" will come in handy this time hopefully

loud sphinx
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amazon 🤮

nocturne oriole
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(i actually am glad to put that and think it helps, everyone should be proud of their culture etc)

sonic coral
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Eh I don’t do that just because Polish isn’t really a common corporate language lol

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If you speak mandarin or Spanish tho I’d def put it

fallen fox
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do you all write cover letters if there is an option to do so?

nocturne oriole
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It’s up to u but u know what man i would put Polish cuz u speak it

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And dat says somethin about u

teal jackal
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It seems like a waste of space on the resume tbh

nocturne oriole
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It’s one line

teal jackal
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hm,

nocturne oriole
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If u honest to god believe in diversity (not the PR dummie version, but like the real life thing) then u can justify it to yourself

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Cuz u are bringing a diverse part of yourself to the field

teal jackal
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I'm gonna bring a Level 2 autist into tech

nocturne oriole
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I mean it’s rather silly cuz like even if somebody was skilled at minecraft i think that’s part of their diversity and prob makes em a better problem solver or whatever but like u cant put that on resume

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Language tho is freebie

rain patio
nocturne oriole
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And they are better at certain work

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Generalizing

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Doesnt have to be true

teal jackal
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yeah unironically a level 2 autist can be an irreplacable team player(given the culture is right for it)

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some of my friends and my dad err on the side of saying that they've had better experience working with teams where everyone is like minded and on the same page about most things, other friends prefer diverse work environments

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I'm completely neutral on the topic, all my life I've learned to adapt to environments I don't like so no matter what, I will find a way to adapt and be part of the team

vagrant escarp
raw echo
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every time I see a company rescind I feel less critical of ppl reneging tbh

night marsh
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Fuck that sucks to hear. Will spread word and wish best of luck brother

night marsh
chilly burrow
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Unfortunate this happened, esp on ur bday. I left a comment.

vagrant escarp
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yeah thats unfortunate that you turned down other possible opportunities, but I think what this whole situation with the tech layoffs has taught everyone is that at the end of the day the companies will do what they gotta do and we can't count on them to watch out for our interests. It's generally good practice even when you are employed or have an offer to continue applying and looking at other possible avenues.

desert edge
vagrant escarp
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because the companies won't think twice even if they have to fire a couple thousand employees just to make whatever target they have set

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so its kind of up to the employees themselves to watch out for their own self interests to make sure if they do get laid off or job rescinded they have some kind of plan

pure mauve
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lmfao i just bombed an interview with a leidos a company that pays 80k

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i just came in there 0 prep not giving a shit

vagrant escarp
hearty walrus
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yes

vagrant escarp
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yeah and some people may virtue signal and tell u its not good to do that...but the reality is the companies dont give a rats ass about u, so its on u as an individual to watch out for num 1, which is urself

knotty talon
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I wish i had done this lol

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Definitely would recommend if youre in that position

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ye

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And rejeted bbg and datadog offers

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🥲

jovial latch
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i mean im trying to get a offer rn but i sure as shit aint stopping there

knotty talon
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Yea tbh its easy to get complacent once you get a rlly good offer

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Because interviewing sucks ass

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And is super time consuming

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Its*

jovial latch
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if companies are gonna layoff the bottom rung workers while the execs dont get hurt then i feel no guilt in reneging

vagrant escarp
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the companies will watch out for their interests, you gotta watch out for ur own

jovial latch
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swe's are pretty high up in terms of worker salary n quality of life but at the end of the day they're still workers and will get fucked just like all other workers

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thats the way i always saw it

jovial latch
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then you have silicon valley where the only peopel that can afford to live there are tech workers

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i mean its gonna eat itself alive in the next decade, cause where tf are all the service workers gonna live lol

vagrant escarp
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i think they are gonna start teaching programming in schools? idk

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with chatGPT and even github copilot, its made it so u may not even need to know how to code that well

jovial latch
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last thing we need is the entry level market being even more saturated

vagrant escarp
jovial latch
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lol 'if'

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cities cant function without service workers so if they cant afford to live in a place they will leave

glass egret
teal jackal
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senior SWEs at epic games make 200k
i have a feeling I know where I want my job hop to land me

vagrant escarp
glass egret
teal jackal
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I think game dev has high demand in terms of people who want to work there

fossil jewel
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terrible hours tho

teal jackal
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I think the area within game dev I want to work in is with game engines.

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Such as engine logic, tooling, and game infrastructure.

fossil jewel
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robux

teal jackal
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nope, but epic and bungie pay isn't so bad, around 200k or so

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not sure about CoL

rain patio
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no game dev

fossil jewel
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that’s pretty good pay

crystal delta
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pretty sure riot doesn't pay that bad

teal jackal
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i forgot about riot yeah

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but i dont realy play or like their games, they care a lot about hiring people who like their games

rain patio
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is game dev wlb a meme

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or accurate

nova reef
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tbh most swes at roblox arent even game devs

teal jackal
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but tbf a lot of devs at game companies aren't necessarily game devs either

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a lot of them are working infra and backend tools/features

rain patio
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kind of a niche tho i feel like u need game dev experience to become a game dev

teal jackal
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not necessarily the frontline of making the game itself

crystal delta
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pretty sure the titles are bloated

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o damn i didn't know that

teal jackal
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yes and no on game dev wlb

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really depends on the studio

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my friend interned at blizzard and got a return offer there, he even got on the credits for a World of warcraft dlc

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it helps to like the game of the studio you're applying to

nova reef
tardy geode
teal jackal
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my family friend's dad's company got bought out by microsoft, they didnt get jack shit in raises

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probably a pattern that's important is being part of a studio where you're a big fan of the game

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I'm at a crossroads anyways

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I have absolutely no idea what my long term vision as a dev is gonna look like

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my dad said that too

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a lot of people who dont want to be managers cap as a senior dev

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as an EM there's still room and potential for growth

vagrant escarp
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oh for me i kinda dont mind being overworked

teal jackal
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I'm not fully sure how levels work, but I guess like new grad + 3 levels is the ceiling for people who dont want to be managers

vagrant escarp
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gotta advance that career

teal jackal
vagrant escarp
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and since we are still all super young anyways...best time to overwork is now, and once we hit like 35, we just chill with our staff software engineer jobs doing meetings

fleet tundra
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Is anyone interviewing for HPE? I have a behavioral and a hacker rank afterward would love some advice on the process

vagrant escarp
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and get paid like 800k

teal jackal
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I don't have big plans for my personal life yet anyways

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yeah I don't mind putting wlb on the tougher side

vagrant escarp
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yeah not like we have a family or kids yet

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or i guess that depends on where u work

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when i looked at salaries at netflix...it was insanely high

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dang thats a lot of stock

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whats an IC?

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@fallen fox when u hittin 300? or 1 interview

fallen fox
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Did anyone here apply to the Corporate Banking Analyst at Barclays? Do they send out TWO auto-oas?

pure mauve
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Lmfao this startup deadass ghosted me for scheduling final interviews

teal jackal
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is there really that much demand for software managers

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or is it more like

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not as many people want to make that leap from dev to management

tender sluice
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@signal trellis can you add a feedback button to job postings on simplify, even tho my filters are Entry level I get matched for jobs that say entry level in simplify, but when I click apply are actually senior

So it would be nice to have a feedback button so we can leave feedback on matches so y'all can investigate negative feedback and remove the mismatched job postings

neon perch
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Can someone send the link for Barclays opening

dusky tapir
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Ppl who work in games r annoying asf, every single one

signal trellis
dawn sequoia
sonic coral
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L4 is semi-terminal

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You’re expected to get L4 at some point even if you don’t specifically go for promo, but for L5 you need to display leadership skills and basically do L5 stuff while you’re an L4

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That being said most teams do have the leadership opportunities

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Beyond L5 tho you really need to be on the right team so most switch to SDM

teal jackal
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so basically you have to really want L5 to get L5 at google

sonic coral
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Kinda yeah

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But like if you want it you’ll most likely get it if you try

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However for L5+ that is not the case

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You need to have the right team at the right time

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Yeah like you can get senior

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Beyond that it’ll require the right circumstances

vagrant escarp
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and yeah..most people are perfectly fine with L4

sonic coral
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At google L5+ isn’t even politics it’s just like there straight up isn’t many opportunities for L6 ICs

vagrant escarp
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since Ive hard as a senior or higher level u gotta understand the code base really well

sonic coral
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There’s more people problems than technical problems to solve at that level is what my manager says

vagrant escarp
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in terms of value I think being a L4 is what most people go for

vagrant escarp
sonic coral
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Like there’s just not enough technical problems to promote most past L5 IC

peak ferry
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I honestly don't understand how/why there are so many IC levels

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most challenges I see in building software are more so organizational rather than purely technical

meager terrace
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facts

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hi senti

nocturne oriole
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Maybe it depends on your domain. My work area absolutely has levels of technical proficiency

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And a good senior here is just straight up expected to know the ins and outs and get anybody unblocked

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I dont think it’s sustainable to go into this field not aspiring to be a senior engineer. Maybe to you that means sigma grindset coder with no people skills but that’s not a true senior

vagrant escarp
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yeah when i was doing my intern, it was pretty apparent the knowledge gap between a senior and someone who was just a standard software engineer

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they knew how to solve all of my problems

nocturne oriole
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The reason big tech levels are so regarded/respected is because they do follow standards btw

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I’m not gonna say they are always fair but the requirements arent made up

vagrant escarp
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where do u work at kirb?

nocturne oriole
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At meta

vagrant escarp
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oh nice u survived the layoffs?

nocturne oriole
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Yeah somehow

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Round 2 might come soon

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But i will be safe

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My team is ass but critical

west egret
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The whole convo was under 5 mins.

vagrant escarp
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yeah...i kinda of had a similar experience as well

nocturne oriole
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Seniors will do that. They will multiply everybody else’s impact by guiding them too. They can corral and narrow down your work to things that matter. They spot problems before they happen. You let seniors design the system from ground up and it will scale and be sustained and refactorable etc

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Below senior level u cant do all that

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However where many are lacking is just dumbing stuff down for u lol. It’s like how being the best at something doesnt mean u can teach it

peak ferry
nocturne oriole
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I guess most people agree that junior mid senior are the basics right

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Junior absolutely is a level

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Mid level is just halfway to senior

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Senior is ur a veteran

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Anything beyond that is just an extension of how wide ur umbrella is or cross team impact or ur pushing big levers lol

#

Designing da system

peak ferry
#

idk how it works at big tech, but I'd be shocked if you go up the levels and it's just "more gooder at code/technical stuff" like I don't understand the concept of an IC that's >>L6 level, do they even exist?

#

like if ur designing systems u can't do that in isolation

nocturne oriole
#

It depends on your company but i think very safe to say that progression from jr to sr has necessary progression and thus plateau of technical skills

#

As in there is a hard skill floor of raw coding

#

At each level

peak ferry
#

fuck honestly I'm a jr and I can't do very much in isolation, but I'd argue that's kind a structural issue at my company, cuz there definitely should be tasks that can be done in isolation lol

nocturne oriole
#

I mean im jr too duh and the truth is u and i lack judgement to say “hey this task can be done solo in a vacuum”

#

Ur supposed to try for a couple hrs then maybe ask help

peak ferry
teal jackal
#

Just because you're good at something doesn't mean you'll be a good mentor or teacher

#

Yeah I agree

nocturne oriole
#

Maybe half or more is soft skills

#

And big picture thinking

#

Not in da trenches

peak ferry
#

in my head that's not an IC lol

#

if ur making big plans and telling other people to do large parts of it ur not an IC in my books

nocturne oriole
#

It’s like a warrior on the battlefield i guess lol like in fire emblem or JRPG u send in strong guy to solo the other team

dawn sequoia
#

this person is in my linkedin dms: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cxmcc/
i cant tell if it's legit or not. they are saying that they are trying to build the engineering team at Hertz to modernize the iconic car rental brand. with fullstack and backend positions available (even for ng/no exp)

nocturne oriole
#

But strong boy also assists other units

rigid lintel
#

what's an IC?

peak ferry
#

individual contributor

#

I guess I can imagine a world in which they don't technically have direct reports, but they basically are still leading other people

nocturne oriole
#

Managing team or managing a project i guess

peak ferry
#

yea idk ig I'm just curious what these staff+ ICs actually do

#

managing project = IC?

nocturne oriole
#

Manager says go improve da system. Make it do X. The heavy hitter IC does it

#

And says hey manager actually if u ask me to do X then this will happen so let’s maybe try Y which will get u similar results

peak ferry
#

that doesn't seem too distinct from a normal sr to me but idk

pulsar mural
#

@rain patiobox

#

he left server

nocturne oriole
#

Well the L6+ IC will also talk to several managers too lol

dawn sequoia
#

@pulsar mural hi 👋

pulsar mural
peak ferry
#

like I actually don't know any ICs that are L6+ so I don't have anything to go off of lol

nocturne oriole
#

Like i dont get it completely either tbh

#

That’s why i used game analogy

peak ferry
#

when I interned I never talked to anyone that sr

nocturne oriole
#

Or like isekai anime middle ages war

#

There is strategists and soldiers

peak ferry
#

and my current work doesn't have those extra levels lol

pulsar mural
#

Yo

dawn sequoia
#

Yo

nova reef
#

if the decision's going to impact the whole platform/company, you cant have a sr or sometimes even staff to give the "go" sign

livid yew
#

depends on how big the company is

#

like we have some Senior Staff floosh

teal jackal
#

Is there really that much need for that many managers

#

That most people looking to get promoted beyond senior dev end up becoming managers

jovial latch
teal jackal
#

I heard that companies are laying off middle managers nowadays

livid yew
#

my manager still codes and pushes commits sometimes

teal jackal
#

Prob as a senior manager you don't really do much code anymore

livid yew
#

he is a sr manager KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

#

has 2 managers under him

teal jackal
#

Props to him

livid yew
#

my direct manager is a sr floosh

teal jackal
#

Staying in touch with his people

livid yew
#

dude has been here for almost 18yrs KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

vagrant escarp
#

thats commitment

livid yew
#

well he is from before the job-hopping generation KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

vagrant escarp
#

i guess the only benefit to him doing that is the company wouldnt dare lay him off now

fossil jewel
#

perhaps the wlb at comcast is also very nice

jovial latch
#

if companies bothered to retain coders instead of hiring new ones then people wouldnt fuckin job hop

livid yew
#

I try to work at each place for 2years before moving

fossil jewel
#

i met lots of ppl who stayed for real long at jp

jovial latch
#

its a problem that only exists because of company greed

livid yew
#

ok Kirb

#

but anything under 1yr is sus

nocturne oriole
#

Bro u been in the field like a year

livid yew
#

I am 2020 grad

#

fuck u mean

nocturne oriole
fossil jewel
#

yeah external hires get a bigger TC

livid yew
#

go to bed buddy

#

we need real mods

nocturne oriole
livid yew
fossil jewel
vagrant escarp
#

yeah one of the best ways to get a raise is to hop companies

shy heath
#

Anyone have any tips for negotiating salary without a competing offer?

livid yew
#

well I learned this very recently after joining this server

fossil jewel
#

yeah thats at any industry

vagrant escarp
livid yew
#

before I joined this discord, I never considered moving around that much

vagrant escarp
#

dont sound desperate

livid yew
#

but with remote work, its easier

vagrant escarp
#

they wont rescind their offer just because you hint that you are considering between a couple options

fossil jewel
#

i mean if you stay 1 year then idk what roles you'd get considered for

livid yew
#

Speaking of JP CATMONCH

fossil jewel
#

i think 2 year mark makes you more experienced hire no?

livid yew
#

I have 4 JP recruiters in my DMs uwu

fossil jewel
#

yeah they're hiring tech crazy

vagrant escarp
fossil jewel
#

since people leave after a bit

vagrant escarp
#

thats the better approach to doing it

fossil jewel
#

sign on and such

teal jackal
#

My worst interview experience ever was at JPMC

fossil jewel
#

unfortunate

#

if i interview ppl im gonna be nice

#

:)

#

2 sum

vagrant escarp
livid yew
#

stocks is such a new concept to me psynotlikethis

vagrant escarp
#

theres strategy to leaving a company

teal jackal
#

Guy was rude and acted like "you don't belong here"
And then during the leetcode part I proved that my solution is correct using legitimate cases and he was just like "yeah I can't prove your solution is right so fuck you it doesn't count"

vagrant escarp
livid yew
#

LMAO

fossil jewel
#

like i cant even do dp, so why make them do dp

pulsar mural
#

@fossil jewel

fossil jewel
#

el orea

vagrant escarp
#

only DP i know is....

fossil jewel
#

fibo

vagrant escarp
#

nvm

fossil jewel
pulsar mural
fossil jewel
#

classic

#

oh

vagrant escarp
#

dynamic programming

pulsar mural
#

U want me to report u @vagrant escarp

#

I can get u banned

vagrant escarp
#

what were u thinkin? @pulsar mural

livid yew
#

"The company will pay competitive salary (up to $200k or more depending on experience), yearly bonuses, as well as equity which could be valuable." sure

pulsar mural
#

I have status in this server

fossil jewel
pulsar mural
#

I can get u banned in a snap of a finger

livid yew
#

200K uwu

fossil jewel
#

man was smart asf ofc but damn i never felt dumber

#

regardless it worked out for the better, i wouldnt wanna work in CA

pulsar mural
#

@fossil jewel

fossil jewel
#

AS A VICTIM

#

ur not the victim idiota

vagrant escarp
#

lmao

pulsar mural
#

@fossil jewel work tkmorrow

fossil jewel
pulsar mural
fossil jewel
vagrant escarp
#

we got any overemployeed in here?

livid yew
#

I sent resume to 5 recruiters today uwu

fossil jewel
#

nah i have one job

vagrant escarp
#

we all somewhat anonymous

livid yew
#

wheeze in this day

#

good luck

fossil jewel
#

dont think i wanna balance two jobs

livid yew
fossil jewel
#

i want my wlb

vagrant escarp
livid yew
#

I like having free time

#

I would take the pay cut for WLB buddy

fossil jewel
#

yeah fully remote still makes me stressed

livid yew
#

could I work 2 jobs? sure

vagrant escarp
#

yeah just depends on what ur life goals are

livid yew
#

but like what do I gain? more TC? less WLB? more exp?

vagrant escarp
#

def not for everyone

fossil jewel
#

but like how would you talk about the more exp

#

"oh i worked two jobs"

pulsar mural
#

My life goal is to be successful like @fossil jewel

livid yew
#

💀

vagrant escarp
vagrant escarp
#

and job 2 just basically never existed

livid yew
#

this Dan guy knows all the tricks bro

pulsar mural
#

I spread positivity dogesmile

livid yew
#

are you currently OE? @vagrant escarp

fossil jewel
vagrant escarp
#

im working on job 1 my friend

#

XD

fossil jewel
livid yew
#

yeah you are thinking too far in the future dude

#

slow down and live life

vagrant escarp
#

but im in the reddit just staying informed

#

its interesting reading about these things even if u dont end up doing it

livid yew
#

oh reddit can suck a massive cock

teal jackal
#

@pulsar mural you spread farts

fossil jewel
#

its a bubble lowkey tho, small percentage

vagrant escarp
#

very few people actually do this

livid yew
#

WazowskiStare I believe with your level of experience JPMC would be looking for someone to make between $120-135k.

fossil jewel
#

even folks in this server are quite advanced

pine topaz
livid yew
#

base is 110k

fossil jewel
#

oh

#

we have same base

livid yew
#

well pre merit raise

fossil jewel
#

different COL and taxes tho

vagrant escarp
#

yeah software engineers already make decent money, so most people don't care enough to balance 2 or more just to make some extra money

livid yew
#

idk what my raise will be this year

pulsar mural
#

because of recession

fossil jewel
#

:(

#

i thought canadian == nice

livid yew
#

STONK

pulsar mural
#

@fossil jewel are u sick of work yet

livid yew
fossil jewel
#

waking up early yes

#

im used to my break schedule

#

waking up at 10

pulsar mural
#

What is ur break schedule

fossil jewel
#

i now wake up at 6:30

pine topaz
fossil jewel
#

and now

#

winter break

#

dummy

livid yew
#

@pulsar mural guess how much I have invested rn floosh

#

answer the Q

fossil jewel
#

i'd never trust techie with investments

fossil jewel
#

he invested in doge coin

livid yew
#

lol

vagrant escarp
#

investments grow if u are a good investor

#

gotta catch em crypto pumps

fossil jewel
#

techie trash

teal jackal
#

who here gonna buy 401k and roth

fossil jewel
fossil jewel
livid yew
#

PES2_Shrug I just started learning this year Dan

fossil jewel
#

u reminded me

livid yew
#

I have both of those

fossil jewel
#

to look into it

vagrant escarp
#

or good gambler i mean

livid yew
#

setup

fossil jewel
livid yew
vagrant escarp
#

lmao

livid yew
#

lol

pulsar mural
#

Yo

vagrant escarp
#

huh?

pulsar mural
#

hows u day

livid yew
pulsar mural
#

@livid yew

#

valentines day

livid yew
pine topaz
teal jackal
#

the main circumstance where a 401k and roth ira put into index funds ends up failing is if the entire country is going to die

pulsar mural
#

@teal jackal

fossil jewel
vagrant escarp
fossil jewel
#

like those people who put christmas decor a year in advance

pine topaz
#

that is my prediciton

pulsar mural
#

@pine topaz

teal jackal
pulsar mural
#

@pine topaz

pine topaz
#

STOP

#

@pulsar mural

fossil jewel
#

yeah lowkey US falling apart won’t happen soon

vagrant escarp
#

yeah i mean the U.S. has like 6 trillion in debt...we never payin that back

pulsar mural
#

@pine topaz

pine topaz
#

...

pulsar mural
#

@pine topaz

#

@pine topaz

teal jackal
#

as long as the economy grows proportionally

vagrant escarp
#

the U.S. is one day gonna just put their foot down and tell china to fk off and it depends on how they react

pine topaz
#

i dont care @pulsar mural

teal jackal
#

^

#

the national debt issue is really misunderstood

pulsar mural
#

@rain patio hi

vagrant escarp
#

yeah idk how long the U.S is gonna last

pulsar mural
#

@rain patio show shrimp babies

vagrant escarp
#

i really doubt it will last 1000 years

fossil jewel
#

next gen problem

vagrant escarp
#

true...

#

aint our problem

fossil jewel
#

@livid yew how is your office’s workwear?

pulsar mural
#

SHRIMP BABIES

fossil jewel
#

lots of people are dressed casual here

#

most formal i seen was business casual

pulsar mural
#

@fossil jewel do u do makeup before work

fossil jewel
#

yeah i put on my clown make up

pulsar mural
#

same

fossil jewel
#

you don’t need to

teal jackal
#

yeah that do be how economics works

#

economics is a manmade mindfuck

vagrant escarp
#

oh nice

livid yew
#

what else am I to do with my crypto lol

vagrant escarp
#

u gotta gamble in the stock market instead

#

if u lose its a tax write off

livid yew
#

my guy I am still trying to figure out how stonks work for taxes this year lol

solid sonnet
#

Guys I'm graduating my Master's degree program soon and now I'm applying for the OPT visa. It seems like I need all my past copies of CPT I-20 from bachelor's degree, but I don't have them anymore. Does this mean I'm doomed?

livid yew
#

I did not make enough to report tho

vagrant escarp
#

most brokerage sites should handle that stuff for u

#

like the tax part

livid yew
#

yep

#

Fidelity said forms should be here tomorrow

graceful crown
nocturne oriole
errant karma
nocturne oriole
rain patio
solid sonnet
#

Kk good to know thanks guys

lucid widget
#

Hey guys, I am 2021 grad tryna get my cousin a job who is graduating this year. How is the market currently looking for 2023 for new grads?

frank coyote
#

Market is bad

nocturne oriole
#

Market is bad

cedar gulch
#

bad

lucid widget
#

Dang, when y’all think the market will swing up again. If it will anytime soon?

teal jackal
#

Maybe once this interest rate madness ends

pine topaz
vagrant escarp
errant gorge
#

It won’t be good for a while 😔

#

Newest inflation report shows a 0.1% decrease in inflation from last December

#

We are at 6.5% ish for inflation and fed wants it to be down to 2%

#

So the fed will increase interest rate further throughout this year

#

And the stock market didn’t really realize that fed is not stopping anytime soon and it celebrated prematurely

random seal
#

What is a good codility score for space_x?

arctic pine
pastel bane
#

would you feel yourself a jerk if you promised to go to a company but didnt in the end?

earnest summit
#

nah its normal

jovial latch
ivory stratus
#

companies dgaf about you, dgaf about them either

#

get them bags

jovial latch
#

once you get a offer, get a 2nd, then a 3rd

#

and just keep going lol

#

too many fuckin layoffs and uncertainitiy in these times

#

tbh i do wonder when people regne (how the fuck do you spell it) in later months, a buncha spots open lol

#

i fuckin hope

#

i get the impression peopel have accepted multiple offers so idk

ivory stratus
#

yeah, if i had the luxury of having a lot of offers and having deadlines, i would absolutely accept whatever offers/negotiate and renege whatever ones i dont want

vagrant escarp
#

and get paid as much as a wall street trader

ivory stratus
earnest summit
#

i saw this guy on reddit that had like 11 jobs

chilly burrow
#

It also takes away jobs from the market, jobs that other grads could have gotten

jovial latch
#

You are right, but also companies be rescinding left and right

#

Having a offer ain't a guarantee of a job now

#

Not in there fuckin times

nova reef
#

at some point the person has to renege, and that position goes back to the market unless the company wont be hiring (which is basically the same as rescinding the offer they were gonna give to another person)

sour spindle
#

8966 applicants 🥲

fossil jewel
#

how many times are they gonna repost this?

#

figma hella selective

sour spindle
#

God knows. It makes no sense to collect so many applications for very few positions.

tardy geode
#

smh same shit qualcomm does

graceful crown
#

Coinbase wants us to do ABC

teal jackal
#

SO TRUE BESTIE!

cedar gulch
#

woah they pay from [Zone 3 Pay] to [Zone 1] pay? That’s more than I expected

solemn spire
pure mauve
#

flexport is full right

#

time to yolo this interview

bold pier
#

What's that free website where we find leetcode tagged questions?

vagrant escarp
random seal
#

Anybody have any tips on System Design interview for SpaceX?

bold pier
cedar gulch
#

Does Apple actually send rejection letters or do u just get ghosted? I’ve never gotten an email from them lmao

teal jackal
fossil jewel
#

Good luck!!!

pulsar mural
fossil jewel
fossil jewel
#

imagine writing a whole essay on linkedin about a guy

pine topaz
night marsh
glossy shard
#

Any international student here getting call backs ?

vagrant escarp
agile arrow
shut crescent
#

finally got 1 offer lmfao

tardy geode
#

congrats

shut crescent
#

thanks brother

#

been a ride

tardy geode
#

i am sicking of even seeing LC 😭

#

somehow surviving

shut crescent
#

its all luck tbh

#

i just focused on the 75 list

timber rock
#

got myself a masters offer as a backup yesterday

tardy geode
#

i have been just doing same probs like revision

timber rock
#

homeless arc not starting yet

shut crescent
#

nice

#

not a bad play cuz of this market

tardy geode
#

so i am currently at 125 mediums , 190 easies and 0 hards .

shut crescent
#

sheesh

timber rock
#

jeez

tardy geode
#

but i am honestly unable to do more

shut crescent
#

if u were asked to do any of those again though, would u be able to do so?

tardy geode
shut crescent
#

cuz in many interviews i got asked same exact questions

#

okay nice

tardy geode
#

i have understood them well , like even i can code it out while explaining

#

what and why

shut crescent
#

i failed this really easy interview cuz i couldnt remember 3 questions from LC lmao

tardy geode
#

i am just sick of LC style interviews

shut crescent
#

yeah its honestly a dumb strategy to determine if someone has the skillset for the job lmao

neon perch
#

Everything is dumb

shut crescent
#

often times it has no correlation

tardy geode
#

yeah

neon perch
#

It’s all luck in this atrocious market

shut crescent
#

i agree lol

tardy geode
#

yeah even i feel so

#

😦

timber rock
#

at this point im missing doing technicals

#

nothing except behaviourals and oas since like november

#

and sys design

neon perch
#

I gave so many OAs and ghosted ever since

slow owl
#

@shut crescent do u mind sharing where u got an offer from

#

u dont have to share of course

#

its motivating to hear people getting offers though

#

i just got rejected after 6 rounds of interviews

#

got hit with a system design interview

tardy geode
#

sys design is stillf okay , but LC styles makes 0 sense

timber rock
#

i feel u bro i just got rejected today after 4 rounds from a sys design as well

tardy geode
#

sys design is what you would actually do on your job

#

i mean

#

atleast its related

#

not saying DSA is completely unrealted

shut crescent
timber rock
#

dsa is more fun

#

lol

shut crescent
#

i got lowballed tbh the offer is only $110k

neon perch
#

I can only wish to get an offer on a Friday and enjoy my weekend ffs 🥲

shut crescent
#

i live in the bay

#

the job is fully remote though

tardy geode
#

i can ace a sys design interview (i have done during my internship interview) but LC style i lack confidance

timber rock
#

this was my first sys design and thought I did pretty well

slow owl
#

same, I asked for feedback from my interviewer afterwards and he didn't say anything outrageous but he could have been trying to be nice

shut crescent
#

i gotta negotiate on tuesday now and ask for more -_- lol

slow owl
#

are u gonna stay in the bay area?

shut crescent
#

yeah i might stay at my parents house for a year

#

just to stack up some money before moving out lol

slow owl
#

sweet, thats a good way to save up money

#

yo rent is such a money suck

shut crescent
#

yeah

#

i might say that im going to be paying rent tho cuz the offer is so low tbh

#

theres no RSUs, no signing bonus either

#

just $110k base

slow owl
#

i dont think u need to say a reason for negotiating especially for that offer in bay area

#

no yearly bonuses either?

jovial latch
#

i dont like being asked leetcode type shit in live interviews

#

leetcode oa's whatever, its fine thats just a thing

#

in live interviews id rather you ask me bout technical concepts like sys design, oop, fuckin whatever

#

feels redudant and stupid when you do a leetcode type oa and then just get asked a leetcode type problem in the live interview

#

automated feedback emails after a rejection need to fuck off though ill tell you wht

livid yew
stone granite
#

Flexport cancelled my interview oooof looks like it’s full

livid yew
gritty raptor
lilac flare
#

LEETCODE IS DOWN?!

autumn jolt
#

yess

#

I thought only I had problem

#

403 Forbidden

lilac flare
#

I hate life I was so close to solving a hard difficulty problem

#

I pay $160 for this kind of service

split plaza
#

Leetcode telling us to go touch some grass

lilac flare
#

nope it's a sign to start submitting more applications bro

#

no grass until offer is found

jovial latch
#

tbh i believe theres a threshold you reach after doing enough leetcode

stone granite
#

7th March

jovial latch
#

diminishing returns and all

#

mind you i fucking hate leetcode

stone granite
#

Yea around 200 ish questions is enough I feel

#

As long as you are targeting all kinds of patterns

jovial latch
#

i just went through grind 75 and then decided i was fed up

lilac flare
#
self.touchingGrass = False
offer = False
while not offer:
  self.grindLeetCode()
  self.applyJobs()
  self.interview()
  if self.offerLetter in self.Email:
    offer = True
self.touchingGrass = True
jovial latch
#

its like im insulting my brain and my self worth in a sense by doing more leetcode

#

havent done it in a while

lilac flare
#

Leetcode is backkkk boys

#

time to grind

autumn jolt
#

wohooo

lilac flare
#

lets goooo

jovial latch
#

though i did have an interview today and the technical stuff was just normal technical concepts

shell vine
#

when was ur first round interviews?

jovial latch
#

and i was thinking 'yes thank you for an interview that makes fcking sense'

neon perch
#

You?

shell vine
#

yesterday..i got mail from HR saying it takes two weeks for update

neon perch
#

Hmm gotta see what happens next Monday

split plaza
#

Anduril interviewer no-show

jovial latch
#

is it too soon to start prayers for the next week

split plaza
obsidian quartz
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What will you suggest to a guy who graduated recently in Jan'23, is based in South Asia, and trying to relocate to Canada?
The guy has 2 SWE Internships, 2 RA, and TA experience, a 5-month Full-Stack dev experience, 2 Research papers, and have done 30+ LCs.

A. Prepare for masters, do well in GRE+IELTS, Have more Research -> Get into a decent Uni -> Do internships -> Join Full time (2.5 years timeframe at least)
B. Do at least 300+ LCs, apply to every job, and pray that there will be one that may sponsor a visa.
C. Join a local company that nobody heard of, gain experience of 3-4 years, apply to jobs as a Senior, and pray the same as before. (There is no MNC in my city)

jovial latch
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christ the guys experience is kinda stacked ngl

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though i cant say what you should do

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dont know enough to say

obsidian quartz
jovial latch
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i mean i guess it depends on your money situation

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like if you need money rn, then i say you join a local company and do a job there while also applying to jobs right

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if you got money though right, doing a masters abroad would improve things ig

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though get advice from someone far more knowledgable then me

obsidian quartz
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Money won't be a problem I guess. Just looking for the right career choice. Don't wanna do the same mistakes I did before, you know.

tardy geode