2023_grads

[timber rock]

ya

[royal knot]

Weird, they’re still sending out interviews into March atleast for toronto location

[tardy geode]

cool , i ll take a look

ty both

[timber rock]

👍np

[earnest perch]

wow thats weird. I wish they at least did the interview for me so I would've had some practice :/

[split plaza]

has anyone heard back from Ramp after applying last week

other than rejects

[dusky tapir]

woomen amirite

[vagrant escarp]

did u also have to do the ctf thing?

ah yeah...i wasnt sure if all the positions required it

how many flags did u guys find?

i wonder if num of flags u submitted influenced whether they rejected u or not

[young peak]

Ayo I just got on offer from Doncon!

DONCON DEEZ NUTS

[vagrant escarp]

...

was just thinkin that i should apply to doncon lol

[young peak]

hi Nate how's it's going

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

Bro got me hungry

Bout to devour Nate's arms

[vagrant escarp]

lol im eatin spegetti rn no joke

i wish

just goin to the gym, applying, getting rejected, sleep, and repeat

[sonic coral]

Did you know google results are personalized

They still track some stuff in incognito

[jovial latch]

anyone interviewed for c1 technology program and gotten a offer? im trying to get a sense of their timeline for their mldp program

i know they also do a powerday for mldp too but apparently theyre still fuckin deciding and my anxiety is killing me

[grizzled bronze]

Did they at least give you an update?

[jovial latch]

recruiter told me they were still deciding who moves ot the powerday

and it was just a hr screen before that

and i literally have a ml masters so id be really fucking surprised if i didnt make it

[grizzled bronze]

Glad they at least responded, sucks waiting though. Good luck!

[jovial latch]

yea, i figured i could get a rough idea of the timeline if i compare it to the technology program timeline for c1

i know that was way back in the fall

[late kestrel]

i got an offer 2 weeks after my powerday which was slow for back then

[jovial latch]

you remember when you got the powerday invitation after the hr screen?

[late kestrel]

i went straight to pd, no hr, no OA

[grizzled bronze]

Tbh it's pointless knowing, it won't help you in anyway. Sucks waiting and I know how that feels, hopefully they let you know soon.

[late kestrel]

it was weird

[jovial latch]

weird indeed

mldp process was (automated?) code signal -> hr screen -> powerday

had the hr screen 3 weeks ago

[late kestrel]

tdp was that without the hr screen

[jovial latch]

wack

hr screen was them just confirming that i can work out of their offices, start date, basic shit, then they asked a weed out question where i had to explain the difference between unsupervised vs supervised learning lol

if you have 0 knowledge of ml you aint getting that question but if you have any basic knowledge you would know that answer

asked me if i kept up with ml news and i spewed shit about chatgpt for 10 minutes, which worked cause she was a non technical recruiter lol

i wonder how many people applied to the program

the recruiter told me they have about 25 slots

im spewing at this point but i dont think c1 would rescind or shrink this program

id imagine they want to invest into the ml field

entirely new program apparently lol

hence the late timeline

actually wait a mintue

the recruiter told me it would take 2-3 weeks

and she sounded like she expected it to take shorter amunt of time

well fuc its been 3 weeks, probably means too many god damn people applied

[west egret]

isn't that just not having vs having a set of labeled data?

[jovial latch]

ye but theres more to it than that

if you just mention that it probably wouldnt be enough

[west egret]

Would make sense that there's more since that's just the definition I learned in my Data Mining class. I haven't even taken any ML classes.

[jovial latch]

yea just weeds out the people with no ml knowledge, after a codesignal

so idk how many people would fuckin make it to the powerday

[west egret]

ML with c1?

[jovial latch]

yea its an entry level ml program

very rare

[vagrant escarp]

@jovial latch not caught up in chat, but did u get the position at c1?

[jovial latch]

nah, had the hr screen 3 weeks ago, praying for powerday invitation

[vagrant escarp]

ah

what was the code signal like?

[jovial latch]

what about you?

[vagrant escarp]

didnt even apply

[jovial latch]

o lol

[vagrant escarp]

but i do like ML

[jovial latch]

dunno, i have a score 841 ive been using for months

[vagrant escarp]

was the code signal just like standard programming or was it geared towards ML?

[jovial latch]

standard codesignal

general coding assessment that lets you reuse scores or whatever

tbh i feel like we're right at the cutoff before companies start investing into entry level ml roles, which upsets me

i wouldnt be surprised if they start popping up like crazy within the next 2-3 years

[vagrant escarp]

i got a code signal when i applied to a capital one's ML position but it ended up being too hard

it was for a associate position tho

[jovial latch]

codesignal problems are randomly taken from a large set

its literally rng

but if you get a good score it can be reused

[vagrant escarp]

so even if i passed the OA, i prob would've failed later on

[jovial latch]

oa scores are not representative of ones coding competence

[vagrant escarp]

read online that they ask u about specific ML related stuff

[jovial latch]

whered you ah, read that?

[vagrant escarp]

glassdoor

[jovial latch]

ima be right back

ah i see

[vagrant escarp]

im unfamiliar with how code signal works, but u can just take a test and then use that score for when companies request you to take it on code signal?

[pure mauve]

damn every company is either so backed up or almost filling up every position rn

[jovial latch]

most companies use the general coding assessment (gca) from codesignal, which takes 4 random questions from a large set. the score you get from this test can be reused for other companies if they give the gca, which most do

id say 800+ is worth reusing, max is 850, my score i use is 841

[pure mauve]

whos even giving GCAs nowadays

[jovial latch]

c1 did for their ml prog but its closed now

[vagrant escarp]

yeah capital one was the only company that requested one at code signal for me, more commonly used was hackerrank

[pure mauve]

wtf didnt even get that

[vagrant escarp]

lol

when'd u graduate?

[teal jackal]

god i want delicious food rn

[vagrant escarp]

go treat yourself bro

[random seal]

What to expect for the SpaceX codility exam

[vagrant escarp]

i want to work for elon too

[jovial latch]

no you dont lol

[vagrant escarp]

hes the goatttt

[jovial latch]

i cant tell if youre kidding, if only because elon simps are crazy

[vagrant escarp]

half kidding lol, i wouldn't actually want to work for him

not high enough salary for the work ur putting in, but i do respect him as a ceo

[jovial latch]

the mans a complete moron and a idiotic ceo ya know

though i wont fault you, hes very intentionally tried to make himself look intelligent

[vagrant escarp]

haha i mean...everyone can be criticized for something

[jovial latch]

im not gonna go into it, but if you do look into whether hes actually smart of a moron, youll find a lot of things

[vagrant escarp]

the reason I like him isnt because hes "intelligent"

but yeah i feel like if we talk about elon we are gonna get too controversial

[jovial latch]

perhaps
though i do have to wonder why you like him

[vagrant escarp]

can bring this to dms

[jovial latch]

sure

[split plaza]

do you happen to have the email of this recruiter 😏

[young peak]

Butter chicken and paneer

[outer radish]

what's the key to 820s

[vagrant escarp]

get good at leetcode

[outer radish]

4 usually got me the last couple of gcas i got, so practicing hashing, bin search, heap topics would help im guessing?

Yeah 3 i usually have no problem with

[lone rapids]

No

[jovial latch]

It's honestly just rng

[outer radish]

Just 4 fucks me up

[lone rapids]

841 with 15 mins left

[vagrant escarp]

how often can you take a code signal assessment?

[outer radish]

ah gotcha

[jovial latch]

O I had 841 but idr how much time I had left

[outer radish]

ya'll know if the practice tests are a good gauge of the actual test from the company

yeah fair enough

guessing the key here is to git gud to avoid getting clapped up

[lone rapids]

No. They are way too easy and then real thing is much more difficult imo

[raw echo]

wait no way gca is always ez compared to actual one

[lone rapids]

Last i did a practice it was super simple then i did real thing got like idk 720 or sth

[raw echo]

ive taken like 5 gca and gotten full score but always get a harder question for actual one (only last question)

[lone rapids]

What company u got

[outer radish]

Nothing rn but zip, some randos back in oct

[jovial latch]

One test I got a score of like 720, next test, 841
Rng

[outer radish]

But just grinded myself to dust at amazon so no chance to practice lc at the tjme

[lone rapids]

Zip the infamous zip where ppl with 850s were rejected

Wym grinded at amazon?

[outer radish]

nope lol

[lone rapids]

Welcome to club

What was ur reason

[outer radish]

manager dipped, skip on vacay

[lone rapids]

L8?

[outer radish]

didn't show to my final

[lone rapids]

Can he do sth or mentors?

[outer radish]

mentor was a junior

oh shit what happened there

ah yeah

[rigid quail]

wait so do y’all skip 3 all together if you solve 1,2 and 4 quickly and can’t figure 3 out immediately?

[outer radish]

bro thats wild lmao

left you on the hook to dry damn

wb now tho ur with zon or pltr? i forgot if that was u or the hachiyuki

[lone rapids]

Soy u have roblox

Right

Oh damn

[outer radish]

straight heat fuck zon

im tryna get my foot in the door with them upcoming recruiting szn

[jovial latch]

1 2 4 3 in that order

[lone rapids]

Pltr rejected me in hm sad

[west egret]

@jagged ravine could be worse and they took it away after you got complacent

[outer radish]

thats blessed, wasn't the ee for meta like 70k bonus ?

damn what a wild time

thats crazy stats though

[rigid quail]

how does one GE in an internship?

are interns putting in extra hours to get that GE

[lone rapids]

Smart

When did pltr gave u offer

Oh wow u early early

[rigid quail]

yeah good thinking the writing was kinda on the wall

[lone rapids]

I thought i would get ro from zon. I needed a signal. The manager, mentors made it look i would

[outer radish]

ngl thats kind of a blessed signal to get

[west egret]

I respect ppl that had the discipline to grind for interviews during internship

[outer radish]

yeah really missed out on not doing this

paid for it when NG season came

[west egret]

I always didn’t start until July/August

[outer radish]

goated manager

[west egret]

By that you mean interviewing other ppl or interviewing to leave lmao

LMAO

[lone rapids]

Big bucks

[west egret]

soybean's manager: "Fuck this place"

[outer radish]

wow

my man said fuck a recession and secured the bag

[lone rapids]

Ofc

More if he is algo trader

The bonus for any swe position at his level would atleast be like 250k +

That org

Doesnt

Exist

Anymore

Lol

As soon as i left from 500 they got reduced to 30 then closed

[outer radish]

holy fuck what org was this if u dont mind me asking

robotics? alexa?

[lone rapids]

I was the lucky charm mfs removed me

Scout

[outer radish]

not SCOT right?

[lone rapids]

Nope

Scout autonomous robots

Im intl

So i would be

Delayed

Either way

[outer radish]

oh shit i heard rumours they were gonna make cuts in the office for robotics

thought it was just gonna be alex

[lone rapids]

My manager

Was smart

Moved to another faang

Probably makes half a mil now

L6

[rigid quail]

your manager was coding @jagged ravine ?

[green pendant]

Our school gave volunteer letters of employment to a few amazon folks lol

[rigid quail]

he was technical

[green pendant]

Was a nice gesture

[rigid quail]

?

[lone rapids]

No idea

[rigid quail]

ohh i see, was he a senior engineer basically

okay

[lone rapids]

Mine was team manager

[rigid quail]

yeah this is a fucked move

[lone rapids]

Considerate

[rigid quail]

basically US citizen filter

unless you’re tight with a professor who can offer you a research position on a whim

[lone rapids]

Gonna be unemployed in this economy feels like

I hope so. OAs are not at all a probpem. The problem is they even advance after perfect OAs with plenty of time left

[sonic coral]

Oh we call these hosts at G

[lone rapids]

Rejected hm

Bloomberg resume rejected me so many times

[rigid quail]

bruh bloomberg seemed rng af

if you just happened to be assigned to a decent hiring manager you were good

[lone rapids]

I thought 150k tc easy as a ng now I’ll work for half of it

[rigid quail]

otherwise you’re getting ghosted at interviews and slow af responses

[teal jackal]

Zon on resume isn't a strong bullet point anymore

Nobody thinks ex-zon is special

It's kind of true though, at least for new grads with Amazon being their most recent internship

[rigid quail]

yeah faang engineers are a dime a dozen now and not just juniors

[teal jackal]

The bar just went up

For resume screening

[sonic coral]

Bloomberg is like all rng

[teal jackal]

This year just Amazon on resume isn't enough for 150k tc companies

Bloomberg is rng at every step

[rigid quail]

those tcs are much less likely this year

mid level companies don’t have tc pressure from faangs

[lone rapids]

100k base is all i want. I want no stocks. 100k and we good

[rigid quail]

good goal rn, we’ll make our money sooner or later

[lone rapids]

That international check means auto reject from so many places

[teal jackal]

Is your college prestigious

[lone rapids]

Yes

[teal jackal]

Like how high rank

[lone rapids]

Nope

[teal jackal]

A lot of ex zon in this server really struggled this year

How many companies did you apply to? I got like a 80% resume reject rate out of all non-ghosts

[rigid quail]

i’m a bit underpaid rn but i have a job and great benefits and a good team, super grateful especially cause im international , december grad

[teal jackal]

And most companies ghosted

[lone rapids]

What company

[teal jackal]

Your friends didn't struggle? Or do you mean they may have struggled but they long run were fine

[rigid quail]

non-tech clothing company

[teal jackal]

Is your school prestigious

[lone rapids]

Abercrombie?

[teal jackal]

Damn I wish I had your numbers

I applied to 100 and had a bad callback rate

[rigid quail]

lululemon

[lone rapids]

Damn

[teal jackal]

Yeah no brainer

[west egret]

gap?

[lone rapids]

How did you get into that.

[teal jackal]

T5 cs is a massive privilege actually

[rigid quail]

kinda? bro that’s prestigious

[teal jackal]

I think T5 CS for sure got you past resume screenings

[rigid quail]

look up

[west egret]

yeah just saw

[teal jackal]

I think uni prestige matters

I don't think school prestige as a filter went away

[rigid quail]

more so now that the competition is fiercer than ever

[teal jackal]

It gets more important when the going gets tough

Yeah what tree said

[vagrant escarp]

dang..i want a job

[rigid quail]

less spots for the high paying gigs

[teal jackal]

Yep

[vagrant escarp]

[teal jackal]

Market was robust enough in prior years that school prestige didn't matter that much

Back in better years, if your prior internships were strong enough then you were for sure going to have a good callback

[vagrant escarp]

how much harder would u guys say it is for bootcampers compared to degrees?

[teal jackal]

Bar for "strong enough" also went up

[lone rapids]

Boot campers almost have no hope

[vagrant escarp]

and also compared to no bootcamp and no degrees and only side projects but shows extensive knowledge

[lone rapids]

0

[vagrant escarp]

i know of a bootcamper that got a job at google

[ivory stratus]

bootcampers have barely a chance

esp this year

[vagrant escarp]

but hes the only person I know of and it was like 2-3 years ago

[lone rapids]

This year is built diff

[rigid quail]

bootcampers lurking in the chat rn

[west egret]

Yeah I mean if ppl from established universities with CS fundamentals are having a hard time

[rigid quail]

100%

[vagrant escarp]

but college is a scam tho

we all got scammed

[rigid quail]

not for cs it’s not

[ivory stratus]

lol but trying to find a job with a bootcamp

[vagrant escarp]

oh wait ur right

yeah for cs its not

good return

[west egret]

Hmm it's a scam in how overpriced it is

[ivory stratus]

literally so easy to find a job with cs

[lone rapids]

There is no way i could have learned cs without college

[vagrant escarp]

for every other major i agree its a scam

[ivory stratus]

plus you can pay off loans so fast

[vagrant escarp]

but for cs its not, you are right on that

[rigid quail]

100% needed the fire under my ass

[lone rapids]

Yea

[west egret]

But I think college is important because it puts you in an environment to network and diversify yourself a little

[vagrant escarp]

u can also get this by just moving to a diff country

if ur going to school to major in liberal arts, ur better off moving to a diff country

way cheaper

[rigid quail]

covid aside, college was 9/10 experience for me, definitely almost broke me a few times but i’m better for it now

[teal jackal]

That's absurd

It's a completely different context

College helps you meet different people with similar career goals

[west egret]

that's a bit extreme

[vagrant escarp]

i did this...thats why i think it has that effect

[neon perch]

Has anyone heard back from Flexport for the team matching stages?

[ivory stratus]

yeah i met my SO too

[vagrant escarp]

i also went to college too...but when you put urself in a new environment u force urself to explore and go out of ur comfort zone

[ivory stratus]

def agree haha

[rigid quail]

i moved to a new country and went to university all at the same time

[teal jackal]

I give senior year of college a 3/10 tbh, I am single and although I have friends it does get really boring because your friends Wont be active every weekend.

I go home every weekend

[west egret]

same

Although my school isn't even top 100

[teal jackal]

Anyways I have no idea how I'm gonna date as an adult now

I'm fucked

Seattle

[vagrant escarp]

get use to online dating

oh same @teal jackal

also in seattle

[teal jackal]

Oh yeah, also senior year classes are tbh filler classes. I find that the most interesting part of college learning wise was sophomore and junior year

[rigid quail]

dating irl is just as hard as college tbh everywhere else but the big social universities in the US

[vagrant escarp]

i disagree it hink college makes it a lot easier because theres events and stuff that kinda force u to be around each other

[rigid quail]

mine wasn’t and covid made it even worse

[lone rapids]

Oh no seattle

[timber rock]

paying for college 😹

[vagrant escarp]

irl people kind of already have their life somewhat figured out, so if you go to hang out with someone else its generally an intentional act

[rigid quail]

this isn’t everywhere, my university had lots going on but kind of a commuter school

[timber rock]

hehe

[teal jackal]

I'd say at least the USA has better job opportunity, but even that went down the shitter this year

[vagrant escarp]

u a citizen?

[teal jackal]

Yeah

[timber rock]

honestly you guys pay out the ass for ur degree but at least u get like 2x the salary of us

[vagrant escarp]

yeah its like that if u get a fang job

non fang are like 80k new grad

[teal jackal]

I have friends from high school who went to college in Canada

But are dual citizens of Canada and the USA

[vagrant escarp]

or yeah it doesnt have to be fang

[teal jackal]

They went to college for cheap in Canada but still got American jobs

Envious

[teal jackal]

Why Seattle bad

[timber rock]

i mean with italian citizenship u could go anywhere in the eu and not deal with visa lol

and then come back with the degree to the us and make your 200k

[west egret]

there are plenty of non fang that pay more than 80k for NG

[vagrant escarp]

i can kinda see a path of someone who didn't have bootcamp or degree and just got a job through personal projects and a vouch at a smaller size company then moving to a fang later on? is that realistic?

[vagrant escarp]

whats NG?

[timber rock]

80k is faang level in the uk lmao

[west egret]

new grad

[vagrant escarp]

why is it that non US usually pay so much lower for tech jobs?

[rigid quail]

yeah canada pay is closer to EU than it is to US

[teal jackal]

Probably because they can

[vagrant escarp]

i even was looking at programming jobs in dubai and middle eastern countries and they pay like nothing...

[west egret]

have you seen healthcare costs in US?

[teal jackal]

Health insurance is such a scam

[rigid quail]

very few companies are kinda on a US payscale

[peak ferry]

healthcare is cheap as fuck if u work for a faang lol

[teal jackal]

You still pay a premium and you still pay a big deductible before insurance starts covering it

[vagrant escarp]

so wait how does healthcare cost make american SWE jobs pay more?

[peak ferry]

my max yearly out of pocket is like 1250 or smth

[timber rock]

they just pay as little as they can to still get people to work there

[rigid quail]

UAE where dubai is has 6 million Indians out of like 12 million total population, insanely cheap IT labor in general

[peak ferry]

Depends on your insurance, it’s really not that much if ur company has a good plan, which I’d expect big tech to do

[timber rock]

us is basically the tech hub of the world and we never really had a big salary boom like you guys had for tech

[vagrant escarp]

yeah i remember seeing the range for a developer role was like 35k-65k usd and was thinking...this cant be right...

[peak ferry]

Offers I saw insurance details for have yearly out of pockets that top out at a couple grand. premiums are crazy subsidized by the company, usually like order of $50/mo

[rigid quail]

it’s even less now lol economy is a bit shit over there rn

[teal jackal]

correct

what happened to the uae?

[timber rock]

cause trust me if faang could get away with paying 80k in the us they would lol

[vagrant escarp]

any of u a 2023 grad with a job?

[teal jackal]

I wonder how long it'll take companies to start treating lowballing(relative to pre-recession pay) as the norm

[timber rock]

50k-ish is a pretty good salary in the uae, theres alos no income tax

[vagrant escarp]

where?

[rigid quail]

yeah faang despite all their woes are quite fair in hiring from all social classes and compete with each other for talent increasing demand and thus pay

[west egret]

what's DB?

[vagrant escarp]

i have been applying for a little over 2 months and kinda losing hope since not getting many responses

[west egret]

can you really count amazon though?

[timber rock]

sucks rn yeah

[vagrant escarp]

but a lot of u guys are still landing jobs right?

[timber rock]

amazon is one of my last hopes lol

[teal jackal]

it isnt just you, the market is EXTREMELY dry now

alterium are u officially on the amazon waitlist?

[timber rock]

im just sitting here with both oa's done, 100% test cases, no final

[teal jackal]

ah

they just paused hiring

[rigid quail]

oh damn you’re actively in the loop?

[teal jackal]

no idea when or if youll get the final

[rigid quail]

when did you submit Oa 2?

[timber rock]

they didnt waitlist ppl like me in the uk, they only waitlisted people who did the final

and amazon was only open for about 2 weeks before the freeze started here, so thats very few people

[teal jackal]

thats crazy

[timber rock]

nov 4

[rigid quail]

you’re unofficially waitlisted then cause they’ll probably process people who did final before you and they’re waitlisted

[timber rock]

yea

[vagrant escarp]

ive only done 1 technical interview and i thought it went well but apparently it didnt because i got ghosted lol

[timber rock]

yeah they opened in october lol

i was checking the site daily for like 2 months

[teal jackal]

I wonder how big of a proportion of people with offers are hoarding multiple offers at the moment

[vagrant escarp]

@teal jackal when did u graduate and do u have a job yet?

[west egret]

I did a technical that didn't go well and they still took 5 months to reject me lmao

[teal jackal]

I wonder if accepting 2 offers and then reneging will have an impact on the market

[west egret]

and it was a final interview too

[teal jackal]

may 2023 officially but im basically done with college, one bullshit joke-tier class left
yeah I have an offer that I accepted

[vagrant escarp]

oh dang nice

when did u apply there? whats the story

[west egret]

where you going again?

[teal jackal]

Hive

yeah

[vagrant escarp]

can i get some tips?

lmao bro what did u say

[timber rock]

bro asked for 500k

[vagrant escarp]

damnnn

[west egret]

how many offers were you holding when you did that? lol

[vagrant escarp]

bro u got massive balls askin for 250k xD

oh i see

[teal jackal]

I got my offer through a recruiter reachout on linkedin
But I just had to be REALLY good at leetcode to survive the process

[vagrant escarp]

that makes sense

dangg..how are u guys having so many offers

jealous

[teal jackal]

multiple offers? I only have one

[west egret]

I had two

[vagrant escarp]

or even 1 is good

[west egret]

one was return offer

I technically have 100% final to offer rate

[vagrant escarp]

when did u interview car guy?

[west egret]

this season

because I interviewed with only one company

[teal jackal]

late August is when I started applying

and I was hit with nonstop reusme rejects until october

[timber rock]

processes are going so fkn slow rn

[vagrant escarp]

ah so i guess part of it is u guys have better planning than me

[teal jackal]

It was REALLY brutal on me to get resume rejected nonstop

[vagrant escarp]

and started applying a lot earlier

[west egret]

I'd say so

I withdrew from C1

[timber rock]

i was supposed to hear back from 3 interviews last week and i heard back from 1 telling me my results are delayed, silence from the others

[vagrant escarp]

what they paying at hive?

for NGs

[jaunty basalt]

You rejected them

[teal jackal]

My dad's friend got me a Spotify interview for an industry hire role, but they didn't schedule the interview until after I got an offer

ecksdee

I can't renege on my dad's friend

so I just cancelled it

[pure mauve]

U mean last fall? Cuz none of those hiring anymore

[vagrant escarp]

so what does it take to get an offer at hive or spotify?

are u guys super good at leetcode or somethin?

[teal jackal]

140k base, 10% annual bonus, paper stock money

[vagrant escarp]

can you link me

[pure mauve]

no one’s great. We just do it a lot

Let’s be honest

For lc

[vagrant escarp]

lmao thats what they sall say

[west egret]

I did like 40 out of blind 75

[vagrant escarp]

then they start solving the hard ones in 10 minutes

[teal jackal]

not sure if hive is still open but it's pure leetcode, they like people who can handle the questions they throw at candidates, and have decent prior interview xp

[west egret]

and tagged questions

[pure mauve]

Yeah even for hive

[teal jackal]

Tbh surviving a leetcode interview just requires a lot of good intuition past a certain point

[vagrant escarp]

aight ima give my shot at hive xD

[pure mauve]

Had perfect interviews still got reject

[vagrant escarp]

maybe we'll be coworkers lmao

[west egret]

LC premium was worth the $100

[vagrant escarp]

most likely not tho....

[west egret]

even though I only used it for like 2 weeks

[vagrant escarp]

yeah i bought it

def worth it

[pure mauve]

Lmao whenever u say zon I think zon is an actual company

[vagrant escarp]

damnnnnn

[pure mauve]

Fuck meta tho

Rescinding asses

[teal jackal]

did they actually rescind that many more people?

is pan still here? i just only heard of him getting rescinded

[vagrant escarp]

@jagged ravine u graduated yet? and which company

[pure mauve]

he’s here

wait I thought u got GE

[vagrant escarp]

damnnnnn

i applied at palantir too

they rejected me

how much palantir pay?

[west egret]

were you in his videos?

[vagrant escarp]

my god...

which college did u goto soy?

[west egret]

finding your ssn just from this info alone

ez

[vagrant escarp]

just trying to gage what it takes to get one of these jobs

[teal jackal]

thats p cool actually

[teal jackal]

good college, good prior internships, dont be search to the job search process

UIUC?

you dont have to confirm

yeah

[vagrant escarp]

would i be able to see any of u guys' resumes?

aight thanks

im just trying to figure out what im doin wrong

[teal jackal]

this is mine dan

[vagrant escarp]

is it important to put GPA on resume?

[teal jackal]

dont be search to the job search process
wait wtf

i meant "dont be late to the job search process

[timber rock]

if its good put it, if its bad dont

[sonic coral]

Only put it if you’ve got 3.7+ imo

[vagrant escarp]

do they ever fact check it?

[timber rock]

not very important imo but it does help if it's high

[teal jackal]

hell id lower that threshold to 3.5

[sonic coral]

I guess it depends on company

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah I’d do 3.5+

[vagrant escarp]

really? XD

[sonic coral]

It also depends on university too imo

[sonic coral]

Yeah they’ll call up your registrar

[vagrant escarp]

ah

[sonic coral]

They verify you even went there first

And then gpa usually

[vagrant escarp]

oh both of u guys have FANG internships

that def helped a lot in getting u credibility

[teal jackal]

anyways Dan do you have good prior internships? That is number 1 for new grad search
number 2: do you have any interesting extraordinary achievements related to tech? like competitive awards or really cool projects?
number 3: university prestige traditionally didnt matter that much in the past, but it matters a lot more now

[vagrant escarp]

hmm not sure if i do or not

[teal jackal]

Honestly your internships and your university won't matter much anymore in the industry hire job hop scene,
It ends up being dependent on the tech stack that your company works on and your company's prestige

[fossil jewel]

projects help, so if u dont have internships, make ur own

aka projects

[teal jackal]

not sure about what?

[fossil jewel]

for projects, a project is only as good as your "passion for it"

if u sound bored asf with it, its gonna show

[vagrant escarp]

hold up gonna post my resume

redacting some personal info real quick

[teal jackal]

if youre passionate about the project youll take initiative to make the most out of it

[fossil jewel]

its gonna show when u talk about it too

yeah thats why i put " "

[fossil jewel]

one of my projects i really enjoyed and i love talking about it

[timber rock]

i have 3 uni projects and 1 personal project on mine but the personal one i only made one static web page and then quit lol

[fossil jewel]

last year i had only projects and no exp

[timber rock]

still wrote about it as if i did it (ssshhh)

[fossil jewel]

it def helped when talking about my skills

even in ft interviews i was asked about my fav project on my resume

[vagrant escarp]

but yeah soybean thanks for the neetcode 150 gonna be grinding those in the next couple weeks

[teal jackal]

you have a minor grammatical error
idk the full context but I think it should be
"Implemented airflow ci/cd to successfully automate"
or "Implemented airflow ci/cd and successfully automated"

[vagrant escarp]

ok ill fix that, was making some changes last night

[sonic coral]

Being concise is fine imo

[timber rock]

you could probably remove the personal profile website cause it doesnt sound that complex. and just link it at the top, thatll make more space for ur other proj descriptions too

[sonic coral]

2-4 lines for projects max

You’ll elaborate on those projects in the interview anyway

Oh yeah pick your projects carefully

That I agree with yes

[teal jackal]

I think you should only put "cream of the crop" projects on your resume
Like the final project for a major class

or a long term passion project

[timber rock]

yea

[vagrant escarp]

yeah okay ill remove em

[teal jackal]

and no more than 3 projects

[sonic coral]

Imo fullstack app that has frontend + backend + db or some tool for a niche topic like security or ML

Really low level libraries work too

[fossil jewel]

ye those are good proj

react only is meh

[teal jackal]

The resume I sent is actually outdated
My current "flagship" project is a multiplayer game that uses unity netcode

[sonic coral]

Also even school projects work too like if you did a shell in systems class or something

[fossil jewel]

its about wording and complexity

[sonic coral]

Lol same

[fossil jewel]

i only have 1 school proj

one is from a hackathon and the other is a robotics one

[timber rock]

this lol

[fossil jewel]

im outta school

[vagrant escarp]

did they ask you about your projects in an interview?

[outer radish]

realistically, if i've got three internships and one at faang do i need projects

[fossil jewel]

for me yeah

[teal jackal]

yeah to fill resume space

[outer radish]

cause i have 0 on mine rn lmao

[sonic coral]

I think mine are shell in C, full stack app with React/Node/Postgres, some sec shit like a port scanner I don’t even remember

[outer radish]

does being an exec role in a cs club help fill that

[teal jackal]

I think its recommended to have a small project space for new grads

[teal jackal]

Yes 100%

[fossil jewel]

yes

[teal jackal]

that's a pretty good role

[fossil jewel]

thats even better

[teal jackal]

that should be on your resume

[fossil jewel]

bc soft skills

[sonic coral]

Have a leadership section

[teal jackal]

I think you can put that under projects and extracurriculars in general

in some way

[sonic coral]

And like 2-4 bullets about what you did

[outer radish]

yeah workshops that I led, helping code reviews and building out an ecommerce site for the club

[teal jackal]

I honestly think your exec role at a cs club substitutes a project

[outer radish]

where the interviews at tho

[fossil jewel]

soft skills >>>>

[timber rock]

my main project is a robot where i was tech lead and i really play it up to sound like our product was insane like how we presented at an industry fair i really emphasise the fact that we got good feedback from bloomberg, github and amazon engineers lol

[teal jackal]

soft skills AND relevant to tech

[timber rock]

honestly would not surprise me if the auto resume screens were picking up the words amazon and bloomberg and putting me through

[outer radish]

yeah thats fair, just gotta keep the grind up

[fossil jewel]

like we're all capable of being able to churn out projects and read docs

but working with others is hard to learn

[teal jackal]

tech companies will be gobbling that shit up
Tech is tired of hiring too many asocial autists like me

ecksdee

[outer radish]

its just my leetcoding

like I need to push the boundaries of my LC skills fr

[vagrant escarp]

do they fact check people if they say they've interned at FANG?

not saying I'm gonna straight up make shit up

[fossil jewel]

background check after offer

[vagrant escarp]

but just curious lol

[teal jackal]

you never want to lie since eventually theyll find out

[vagrant escarp]

i dont think background check covers past employment tho

[fossil jewel]

mine did

if there was a check and w2

then it was to be put

[teal jackal]

I am an honest person who works hard and would NEVER lie about earning something that isn't mine

[vagrant escarp]

but theres people who work like multiple jobs or have big gaps

from what I've read on reddit

it seems like there wasnt a way to check employment

[fossil jewel]

like i had the start date of one of my min wage jobs wrong and i had to submit a correction

[timber rock]

🤐

[vagrant escarp]

oh wait really?

[fossil jewel]

bc they called up the job and got the date different

[vagrant escarp]

well they had to manually call the place

[fossil jewel]

yeah it was a simple submit a recent check and w2

wasnt gonna arrest me or shit

[teal jackal]

My first internship ended on Nov 23rd 2021, but I wrote that on my resume as ending on Dec 2021
This shouldn't sound off any alarms right

[fossil jewel]

[teal jackal]

Shit now im lowkey paranoid about that

[vagrant escarp]

arrest him!!!

[fossil jewel]

most they'll do is ask for w2 form

[timber rock]

you'll lose the offer, then they blacklist you and tell every other company to do it too, sorry. you're done

[fossil jewel]

they'll call IRS too

your credit score will drop to 0

no house no cars

[teal jackal]

I rounded it up to December 2021 since it just looks cleaner than saying it ended in November

[fossil jewel]

nah thats okay

[vagrant escarp]

hmm i should round up on my internships too

most of mine go to the end of the month i put on there

[teal jackal]

if its May to Aug no need to round up

imo

if its May to Jul I'd round up

[vagrant escarp]

like july-sep makes it feel like its 2 months

[fossil jewel]

i had jun to aug

do i round down

[vagrant escarp]

but it was july to end of sep

[fossil jewel]

oh should've mentioned that it wasnt a big red flag, just that they say two different dates and asked me to confirm

i could've just said to not call the job and provided check stub and first w2

[teal jackal]

wait why would they ask for a W2?

[fossil jewel]

guess to see start date

[teal jackal]

i thought the background check company already shows them that?

makes sense

[fossil jewel]

think maybe diff date between onboarding and actually starting maybe?

[teal jackal]

If my company drug tests me, I am going to drink a nice hot mug of coca tea(coca alkaloid IN the leaf) the minute I hear that I passed the drug test

my first internship drug tested me

it's a small IT company with a lot of state government contracts

[fossil jewel]

i just got fingerprints taken

[teal jackal]

which makes sense

[vagrant escarp]

yeah my internship company drug tested me but didnt ask for my W2

they said they ran a background check but not sure what they did for that

[fossil jewel]

my internship didnt ask me for employment verification

fulltime conversion did

[west egret]

WD did for me

[teal jackal]

Amazon didn't do a background check on me as an intern actually

[vagrant escarp]

wait how sure are u that they can find your employment information?

[teal jackal]

they just were like "i trust u bro"

[west egret]

I think my BG check only asked for past 3 years though

[fossil jewel]

yeah

[vagrant escarp]

because i dont actually think they can...because im in a reddit forum where they talk about overemployed(where they have multiple jobs) and it seems like that whole thing would come crashing down if an employer could just find their job history

[fossil jewel]

i mean u can conceal info

[vagrant escarp]

ah

[fossil jewel]

if its not on resume then they wont know

[west egret]

which is good because I hate keeping track of past apartments

[fossil jewel]

but you might get caught

[teal jackal]

does being overemployed set off any alarms during background checks?

[tardy geode]

[teal jackal]

yeah I figured

[fossil jewel]

yeah ssn is always asked for

and/or i-9 verification

[vagrant escarp]

i dont think there is a database that has your actual employment history

i think its based on what you put down urself

[fossil jewel]

its the IRS

that has your history

[vagrant escarp]

yeah but tech companies, do they have access to IRS info?

[teal jackal]

Overemployment seems like a risky game, you don't know for sure whether or not that'll mess up your ability to pass the background check
but then again I hear background checks merely exist to verify information

[fossil jewel]

there's probably a service of some sort

[vagrant escarp]

yeah

[west egret]

You include phone numbers too. So they can verify through that.

[vagrant escarp]

but i mean....if there was a way to find out...then the whole overemployed thing wouldnt work

[teal jackal]

fortunately my overemployment is running a meth lab from my RV

all that shit is under the books

[fossil jewel]

yeah its a big risk

[west egret]

They also mainly check the stuff that's on your resume afaik?

[fossil jewel]

imagine double dipping in meetings

[teal jackal]

its possible if youre careful about planning out your jobs

[vagrant escarp]

yeah...most of them talk about only doing remote positions

[teal jackal]

I'd say the only thing I'm worried about with overemployment is setting off a red flag for background checks

[fossil jewel]

yeah i always wonder how those people do it

[vagrant escarp]

i personally don't see an ethical problem with it if u are getting ur tasks and job done

[teal jackal]

I don't think it's unethical either

[vagrant escarp]

if u are a high performer, then why not make extra money

[fossil jewel]

yeah but u know how companies are

[teal jackal]

I just wouldn't want to wreck my chances to job hop

[vagrant escarp]

many people have 1 job and have their side hustle/side business

[fossil jewel]

expect u to simp

[vagrant escarp]

and end up putting equal to as much time

people just get uneasy because some of these overemployed people will be making close to a million a year and we as people are kind of programed to feel paranoid when someone is making that much money

[fossil jewel]

as long as the work gets done and you're not screwing over your team

i mean lots of min wage folks work two jobs to survive

[outer radish]

everyone keep talking bout these side hustles

wtf is everyone doing for a side hustle

like do i just learn react and go round building websites

[fossil jewel]

wendy's connoisseurs

[vagrant escarp]

bro im tryna get a main hustle bro

get a first job

[teal jackal]

prob nothing as long as I make enough money to buy a nice manual trans sports car

[outer radish]

^

[teal jackal]

I'll be happy with a Civic Type R even

[vagrant escarp]

u got a job yet? @outer radish

[fossil jewel]

im learning to drive and the instructor got a camry

i like it

[teal jackal]

The current gen Camry is REALLY good

[fossil jewel]

he's too busy tho

i havent had a lesson in 3 weeks

[vagrant escarp]

ye camrys are super reliable

[fossil jewel]

wheel is sturdy

[outer radish]

i thought I had one secured when I was prepping for sys design

then they hit me with SQL query after SQL query

[fossil jewel]

my brother complains his elantra is too light

[outer radish]

deferred my database exam so I started doing SQL after the interview

so naw not yet lmaooo

[teal jackal]

the Camry this gen is really good, it's got good throttle response, good handling, a comfortable interior, nice and roomy, well put together
Interior is a bit ugly though
The Kia K5(Optima) looks really attractive inside and out, but I can't confirm if the quality matches a Camry

[vagrant escarp]

did the position say it required SQL?

i know so little about SQL lol

[outer radish]

nope

[vagrant escarp]

if i need to do sql stuff i just google it

[outer radish]

manager told me to prep sys design

like design twitter

[teal jackal]

companies reserve the right to grill you over anything on your resume

[outer radish]

suffice to say i know SQL now

[fossil jewel]

if its there, fair and square

[vagrant escarp]

should i be bolding anything?

[outer radish]

yeah im actually a dumbass for adding it there then

[vagrant escarp]

car, i noticed on ur resume u didnt

[teal jackal]

metrics and tech used during internships/projects

you dont need to bold

its personal preference

[fossil jewel]

personally i didnt bold, i think its preference

[vagrant escarp]

ah kk ill just keep mine bolded then since i already did

[teal jackal]

I didn't bold but if you want to bold something you want to bold metrics and tech used

important keywords

[west egret]

I forget sometimes that ppl from NYC haven’t needed to learn to drive

[fossil jewel]

we do not

walk everywhere

tho having a car in the outerboroughs is nice

[vagrant escarp]

@teal jackal you still actively applying atm?

since u got ur hive one back in august i wonder how u'd fare in the current job market

[west egret]

Yeah but subway is convenient enough

[sonic coral]

A decent amount of natives do know how to drive tho

[fossil jewel]

ye outerboroughs peeps

need a car in queens lowkey

[west egret]

I might have to relearn at some point since I’m leaving my car in FL

[sonic coral]

There’s some pretty big gaps

The further out you go

[west egret]

Yeah idk I’ll figure it out along the way lol

First few months are just going to be exploring immediate area for me

[sonic coral]

You’ll prob leave ny within 5-10 years anyway lol

[fossil jewel]

hey u never know

[sonic coral]

Ofc but the trend is transplants come in, live close to the city enjoy their time and leave lol

[west egret]

I mean might have to do with starting a family too

[fossil jewel]

ye they realize that spending $$ on a williamsburg apartment with a freelance photographer career isnt the move

[sonic coral]

Yeah the pipeline for natives is jersey / Long Island / CT or Florida lmao

[fossil jewel]

meanwhile he's leaving FL

no longer a florida man

[sonic coral]

Bro so many of my relatives are moving to Florida it’s insane

[fossil jewel]

yeah i have family live there and one moved

orlando

[sonic coral]

Yeah my fam is tampa

[fossil jewel]

my dad got fam there

i have family scattered all over

[jovial latch]

florida man

[fossil jewel]

joisey man

[jovial latch]

all those people moving/retiring to florida are probably gonna regret it in like a decade

[sonic coral]

Aunt bought a condo in Clearwater, her daughter moved in with some surgeon in st Pete in a waterfront house lmao

[jovial latch]

btw i just posted my resume in that channel, any feedback would be tight
https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1075225848510160906

[west egret]

Housing in FL can get pretty expensive too

[jovial latch]

though honestly i think its aight

[night marsh]

Got an interview invite from a defense company, but they're asking for a security questionnaire before the interview. Is that normal?
I looked it up in the chat but couldn't find anything

[jovial latch]

housing is expensive everywhere these days tbh

[fossil jewel]

hmmm, maybe stretch out the experiences at the bottom

its just 1 bullet point

[jovial latch]

theyre shitty work experiecnes

so they're less detailed

the real stuff is higher up

where i actually did shit

[fossil jewel]

ye

that looks pretty good up top

[jovial latch]

mind you i cant go to 2 pages but im not gonna like, not list a work experience

[fossil jewel]

oh ofc not

[jovial latch]

ive debated removing the skills part but keyword filters ya know

[fossil jewel]

but if u were to expand those, you can take off the things in proj and extra

[fossil jewel]

nah keep it

thing about skills section is that its easier on the eyes to read thru

[jovial latch]

i could cut out one of the projects but ima be real those bottom 2 work experiences, thats about all i fucking did

useless ass work

[fossil jewel]

fair

pretty good to have some exp

[jovial latch]

the projects are sort of there to establish 'experience' that the rest of my resume doesnt cover, like web dev and a little ml thing (Cause ml masters)

i dont think theres any glaring issues with my resume

[fossil jewel]

yeah u dont have any ML stuff thats bigger?

maybe expand on projects?

[jovial latch]

not really, unfortunamtely, the masters was just purely a buncha ml classes
ml program kinda ass here in that theres not much of a focus on practical shit an ml engineer might actually do

yea ill have to think about it, its difficult being concise and explaining some of these bullet points without going into jargon

given teh nature of what i worked on

i think the fin tech one is fine, but the startup company, yea i can see

ehhhh

ill think about it but i really dont know if i can simplify it while also conveying what i did

mind you i did a lot here

which is why its on top lol

I do think the bullet points cover how I contributed or helped out the company though even with the jargon

Previous feedback included being more descriptive of what I actually did

[tardy geode]

all this grind for what

[lone rapids]

How many total lc

[meager terrace]

holy

isn't that a git commit history

not lc

[fossil jewel]

lc has this too i think

[tardy geode]

its LC

[rain patio]

Manifest it

[meager terrace]

oh

[tardy geode]

[meager terrace]

aint no way

[rain patio]

Believe that u already have an offer

[meager terrace]

that's crazy

[rain patio]

It will become a reality

[tardy geode]

i am sick of grinding FML

[rain patio]

Ik the pain

But there will be light at the end of the tunnel

[tardy geode]

every fking day i do it , and then frustrate inside

[rain patio]

I was ready to give up

Until i got rhat one offer that changed my life

[tardy geode]

i am not giving up until i get that one offer

[rain patio]

Yup

[timber rock]

what we thinking boys

[rain patio]

Good

[tardy geode]

i am struggling tho but its okay

[rain patio]

[tardy geode]

ayo how did you get that viz

[rain patio]

Grind till ur bones r weak

[tardy geode]

i am already half cracked ,

[vagrant escarp]

this mine

[tardy geode]

[vagrant escarp]

i should prob grind more

[timber rock]

Sankeymatic

[rain patio]

[tardy geode]

i am international so i am grinding it half stressed .

never know what pops up

[rain patio]

U dont have a choice yeah

[tardy geode]

and i treat every interview as my last

[timber rock]

Did u apply to witch?

[tardy geode]

its that cut throat in this trash econcomy

[timber rock]

Cognizant has only 1 interview and its behavioural

[tardy geode]

i have been rejected twice after being resume screened only coz i needed sponsorship

[timber rock]

I've got that as my backup lol

O rip

[tardy geode]

they probably want people to start immediately

[jaunty basalt]

Congrats! Where are you joining

[tardy geode]

not from WITCH

WITCH requires immediate joiners

😦

[fallen fox]

witch is hiring?

[timber rock]

Idk about the other ones but at least here Cognizant has a grad program with september start date

[fallen fox]

i applied to witch got rejected

[tardy geode]

ayo @fallen fox apply to cognizant

[timber rock]

It's like 3 oas and then a Behavioural lol

[tardy geode]

💀

3OAs

[fallen fox]

I did

[tardy geode]

oh

FUC THIS ECONOMY

[fallen fox]

ghosted me

[tardy geode]

[fallen fox]

[rain patio]

im trynna motivate new grads

[timber rock]

Yeah behavioural situational things, then technical which is multiple choice and then hirevue thing and then the final lol

[rain patio]

[fallen fox]

i have 1.5 months left

[tardy geode]

sana is my motivation

[fallen fox]

[tardy geode]

[jovial latch]

im just numb

im not even angry or frustrated anymore

just numb

[jaunty basalt]

I gave up

[jovial latch]

at this point im just going through the motions

[rain patio]

URE CRACKED

ure built different

This motivation isnt for u

[rain patio]

dont give up! you'll find something soon lejoro!

[teal jackal]

Nope, and I got my offer in December

Process started in late october

[teal jackal]

Also impossible to own a car in Manhattan xd

I'm YOLOing

Not many places left I'd apply to

Or pass screening for

[teal jackal]

The 3/3 rejects is tough but I hope the law of averages works out for u soon

Tru

[sonic coral]

you too batcox!

[timber rock]

Amazon will pull through for me

[lone rapids]

I got cofnizant offer?

[timber rock]

no im just waiting for the final

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-pussy-cat-smile-gif-16143985

[neon perch]

Flexport anyone?

[tardy geode]

got offer?

[neon perch]

Not yet, waiting for more updates

[tardy geode]

oh i se

[neon perch]

[unkempt forum]

i swear visa keeps posting the same job posting

[polar quail]

I believe its usually 3 leetcode mediums

however in my experience they wanted me to write an entire program

[wind drum]

did ramp accidentally open NG again

they told me they were full in december and i haven't seen anyone get phone since it reopened

[split plaza]

the position has been up for a few days now, I feel like they would have taken it down by now if it was opened by accident

[hybrid iron]

is it ok to share past internship offer letters to current employer even thought they were labeled confidential?

[tardy geode]

this is just nuts

2785 applicants in 2 hours 💀

[grizzled bronze]

It's 2785 applicants total, not in the past 2 hours because it only says "48 Applicants in the past day" on the bottom of that

LinkedIn reposts listings after a certain time

[tardy geode]

oh i see

this thought came in my mind today , what if these layoffs are happening to hire new talent(like us) with lesser salaries than before

[round lake]

Does JPMC hire international new grads?

[fallen fox]

afaik for entry level: no

[tardy geode]

nope

[jovial latch]

oh thats definitely a thing

companies will use any excuse to claw back power

[tardy geode]

[zinc canyon]

is any company interviewing new grads?

[ivory stratus]

most companies are already firing new grads

[pure mauve]

Actually surprisingly some are interviewing new grads and they have no headcount or by the time u interview they prolly have hired that one spot

[dim cosmos]

[jovial latch]

Pain

[vagrant escarp]

Yeah…

[fallen fox]

would anyone be willing to look at my resume:

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1074825191613550622

I've sent like hundreds and hundreds of applications

and haven't gotten a single interview yet lmao

[neon perch]

Fk Covid

[tardy geode]

quantify each and every point in the experience section

[pure mauve]

hey guys importatn question

if you are a ng, and you interview for the role with the posting saying at least 2/3+ yoe, does that mean you are interviewing for an entry level or experience?

cuz I thought usually if a job posting is up for ng, that measn theres hc for ng

[fallen fox]

thanks, i'm on that

[earnest perch]

any other international students here still struggling to find a job?

[meager terrace]

@fallen fox yeah I second that, quantifying each and every point is good. Other than that, the structure looks great! Looks like mine exactly though

[south cipher]

yep, here.

[tardy geode]

yeah

[earnest perch]

i'm losing hope every single day

[tardy geode]

same , its hard staying sane

[fair zinc]

yep here

December graduate

[errant karma]

you still have time Spring Graduates are the ones suffering

[hearty walrus]

still waiting for a 2024 new grad channel not gonna lie

[errant karma]

most people i interned with moved there graduations to 2024

[hearty walrus]

yea im a senior rn

but im doing an extra year for my business

[errant karma]

smart move

hopefully things get better before then

[hearty walrus]

yeah, I'm hoping new grad 2024 is good

2023 seems like the bar is set very high

higher than 2022 at least

[vagrant escarp]

yeah.....its rough out here

[hearty walrus]

there seems to be a lot of positions open tho

[vagrant escarp]

just not for us xD

[hearty walrus]

[vagrant escarp]

its for the fanng layoffs

they tryna snatch up those people