2023_grads

[ivory stratus]

i used to

[gray dagger]

Explain

[ivory stratus]

i mean just time spent on it

i meant get my money's worth lol

my b

bruh i can't imagine being a small streamer getting one of the early copies for console

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

we talking about gaming? @ivory stratus @gray dagger

go PC

fuck console

[gray dagger]

I do have a pc

[livid yew]

specs?

[gray dagger]

It’s trash 💀

[livid yew]

post the specs bruh

[gray dagger]

Ryzen 1700 and rx6600xt, 16gb 3000mhz ram

[livid yew]

💀

ok

its not that bad

[gray dagger]

More than enough for valorant

🫠

[livid yew]

I have a Ryzen 3700x, 3070Ti, 32gb 4000mhz

just a bit better

lmao

[gray dagger]

I’m thinking of selling my piece of crap and no one wants it

[livid yew]

[gray dagger]

I bought the overpriced GPU

Still salty about it

[teal jackal]

i used to use integrated graphics

[livid yew]

I paid $925 for my 3070ti

💀

[teal jackal]

the GPU shortage was why i bought a gaming laptop

[livid yew]

was not even scalp

[gray dagger]

Well as long you have time to play it’s okay

[livid yew]

Best Buy just sucks

[teal jackal]

tbh im not that happy with asus

[gray dagger]

But like I haven’t used mine in well over a month

[livid yew]

oh bruh my WLB is so free

[teal jackal]

paint is chipping, no RAM expansion

[gray dagger]

And I dropped $550 on a midrange GPU

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

i play a lot of automation now

its a car building game

the only game i really enjoy

[gray dagger]

I made the same mistake first time around with predator Helios

[livid yew]

🫠

[ivory stratus]

brooooo i paid i think $650 for my 3070

[livid yew]

💀

[ivory stratus]

I bought mine i think in september

[gray dagger]

Damn working for comcast must be amazing

[teal jackal]

i actually wanted a laptop

i have gotten good value out of it

[livid yew]

bruh

[teal jackal]

was able to bring it to college without a sweat

[livid yew]

that is since HS

[ivory stratus]

laptops really aren't bad

[teal jackal]

bring it to seattle without a sweat

[livid yew]

I used to play a lot in HS

[gray dagger]

Gaming laptops are heavy

[teal jackal]

yeah I agree with Mr Beast, gaming laptops are great

[gray dagger]

Screen and speakers do suck

Also the trackpad

[teal jackal]

They're not that heavy, my zephyrus is like 5lbs

[gray dagger]

Mac is just better

[ivory stratus]

yeah but if you have external monitor, it's not bad at all

i used to have a Dell G2 and it was HEAVY

and the battery life sucked so bad

[teal jackal]

i use my gaming laptop as a desktop replacement

that i can take to go

[livid yew]

💀

[gray dagger]

I bought my 16 inch MacBook last month

[livid yew]

[gray dagger]

And now I’m not gonna use it once I get a job

Talk about wasting money

[ivory stratus]

i mean same

[gray dagger]

[ivory stratus]

debating on selling my mac but i think i still want it

[grizzled bronze]

But you can't do your personal stuff on a work laptop

[gray dagger]

I also have a m1 MacBook Air and a windows pc

[ivory stratus]

M1 macbook air is goated

[gray dagger]

I don’t think I can sell it for anything close to what I spent on this

[ivory stratus]

yeah same

i have a dent on mine

[gray dagger]

Mines perfect

🥹

[ivory stratus]

was skating back to my car after class, fell and landed on a pipe

luckily/sadly my mac broke my fall

[gray dagger]

Skate

[ivory stratus]

thank god the screen didn't crack

[gray dagger]

I wonder if people skate where it snows

[gray dagger]

Would’ve been super expensive lmao

[ivory stratus]

my gf spilled water on my old 16"

immediately flipped it upside down and it still totally died

they quoted almost the cost of a new laptop

[gray dagger]

And a keyboard and a mouse

[grizzled bronze]

You're lucky it wasn't a Windows laptop

[gray dagger]

Makes you wish you had Apple care

[ivory stratus]

that was the first laptop i didnt buy apple care for it

but it's just dumb expensive

[gray dagger]

I don’t have Apple care on any of my products except my watch

It just seemed like a lot of money

[ivory stratus]

but i got an i9 16" for free right before the M1s came out so i took it to apple still in box and traded it in for an M1

paid a bit extra for the 1tb

[teal jackal]

The i9 on the macbook pros are toasters

[ivory stratus]

yuuuuuup

[teal jackal]

those get so hot

[ivory stratus]

my old one was an i7

even my i7 got stupid hot

[gray dagger]

I got the 16 inch i7 last year for my internship

It gets super hot running their platform and the battery life sucked

Especially after getting used to m1’s

[ivory stratus]

yuuuuuuuup

the battery life was so bad

like if i was running chrome, rip

[teal jackal]

the M1 Pro is legit

great for devs

fast, comfortable, and power efficient

[fossil jewel]

i just got a gaming pc

have m1 air that i'll be using for coding stuff tho

since mac > windows when it comes to coding

[fossil jewel]

[gray dagger]

Bigger screen is much needed tho

[fossil jewel]

i'll hopefully get some of that $ reimbursed

since i got a second monitor

getting used to the location of ctrl vs command is gonna take a while damn

[grizzled bronze]

I have Intel i7 MBP, upgrading to M2 MBP once I get a new grad job

[gray dagger]

Where do you work?

[fossil jewel]

jpmc

[peak ferry]

bro my keybinds are diff on mac windows and Linux and I hate it so much

[gray dagger]

Is it remote?

[fossil jewel]

im given 1.1k to spend on stuff

[fossil jewel]

2 off, 3 on

[gray dagger]

Ahhh makes sense

[teal jackal]

jpmc gave you guys an office stipend?

[fossil jewel]

yeah im only allowed to get desktop/peripherals

cant get a new desk for ex

[peak ferry]

that’s dumb smh

I want to expense a couch and flatscreen

[fossil jewel]

fr

[ivory stratus]

couldn't you get a flatscreen though

as a peripheral

[gray dagger]

How much does jpmc pay for entry level?

[fossil jewel]

ny base is 110k

20k sign on, and 10k performance bonus

maybe 140 first year?

[ivory stratus]

that's not bad for ny

i mean that's good for this year lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah its manegable

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1071597467814076617/1066097230299287572.gif_23-56-06-438.gif

[fossil jewel]

i dont have a lot of expenses and my rent is cheap

given i live in nyc already, i just have to commute an hr

[livid yew]

po was poop

[gray dagger]

I think nyc rents are coming down with laid off people moving out

I heard it in a news article

[livid yew]

I mean people cant just move tho

lease

cant easily break those

[gray dagger]

Well idk how it works elsewhere but right now my apartment converts leases to a monthly lease after a year

[livid yew]

yep

where would you move to tho?

if not NYC

[gray dagger]

Well I’m in cali

[livid yew]

give me a non-swe answer

[teal jackal]

Monthly lease is lit

[livid yew]

so no seattle

no bay

[gray dagger]

And I probably wouldn’t move to nyc

[livid yew]

no austin

Cali

[gray dagger]

Somewhere in Midwest with low cost of living

[livid yew]

I am from midwest

its nice

800sqft apartment for 1100

[gray dagger]

If not an SWE I provably wouldn’t be making a fuck ton starting out

So yup LCOL is where it’s at

[fossil jewel]

i mean hey, jp does have a tx office

[livid yew]

I moved to MCOL

[gray dagger]

Minnesota?

[livid yew]

[peak ferry]

Chicago

[livid yew]

Chicago area

[fossil jewel]

from the burbs

[livid yew]

lived in Iowa for 4yrs (college), then 2 years wisco

[fossil jewel]

[gray dagger]

Well I’m international so what do I know

[livid yew]

I have lived in 4 states now

[gray dagger]

All my chicago knowledge is from shameless

[fossil jewel]

good luck man

[livid yew]

@peak ferry lives in chicago

and loves it

[fossil jewel]

chicago is a cool city

how do u like deep dish pizza @livid yew

[teal jackal]

Deep dish is slap

[livid yew]

Deep dish is trash

[fossil jewel]

all ik is thin slices

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

It's not copium if its true

its just a fact

[teal jackal]

i get why deep dish is controversial

but i like that its so thick and flaky

[livid yew]

bro I am washed up

cant get kills in cod

[teal jackal]

im taking a mobile app dev course rn

the single most boring class ive ever taken in my life

feels like a glorified androiud studio tutorial

and the lectures are so verbose and full of unnecessary words

[fossil jewel]

android studio is so annoying

clunky asf

[jovial latch]

Never took a mobile class

I could have

But nah

Loaded up on cloud shit in my last semester instead

[teal jackal]

I even think the OOP patterns within android studio feel kinda clunky

[teal jackal]

good, if frontend is ass then mobile frontend is extra ass

[livid yew]

well if you are doing Java

[teal jackal]

take cloud computing courses

[livid yew]

its just standard OOP

[fossil jewel]

cloud is good

[jovial latch]

Yea they didn't have that much for spring but I'm learning some shit

[livid yew]

Spring is good to learn

[jovial latch]

Maybe get an aws cert
Anything for a god damn job

[teal jackal]

this is my only class and im taking this calss from home

this class SUCKS

[livid yew]

a lot of youtube jobs

@fossil jewel

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

[fossil jewel]

what

[teal jackal]

my reaction to that information

[livid yew]

Just get jobs already 😉

Stop being unemployed

[fossil jewel]

if only it was doable

[livid yew]

Apply everywhere

Idk

Something will happen

[grizzled bronze]

Fuck you buddy

[livid yew]

OK BUDDY

[fossil jewel]

techie is so mean

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel hi

[fossil jewel]

hi @pulsar mural

[pulsar mural]

valentines day next week @fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

hope u got plans ;)

[pulsar mural]

i dont

idiot

dumb idiot

[livid yew]

hey

mean

[fossil jewel]

aw its okay, dont talk yourself badly like this

[pulsar mural]

EL OREO

[fossil jewel]

si

soy oreo

[teal jackal]

@ car guys here

Did you guys see the configurator for the Mazda CX90?

You're getting an AMAZING value for the $53k trim model tbh

a lot of tech, good comfort, good drivetrain, good design

beats handily every other 3 row SUV in terms of overall value

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/anti-v-day-vdaycards-cat-sad-cartoons-gif-5064818

[teal jackal]

hell even I want a CX90 now

[livid yew]

Cease

[teal jackal]

I'd get the CX90 premium plus

https://www.mazdausa.com/siteassets/vehicles/2024/cx-90-vlp/bp/ext.-360s/3.3-turbo-premium-plus/rhodium-white-51k/e360-my24-cx90-turbo-premium-plus-package-rhodium-white-000.jpg

[jovial latch]

fuck off

[livid yew]

Ok

[pine topaz]

“How people treat other people is a direct reflection of how they feel about themselves.”

[livid yew]

This was supposed to be motivation and good luck

Sorry if it sounded rude

[grizzled bronze]

@rain patio you okay?

Zoom layoffs

[jovial latch]

ah ok

[livid yew]

Anyways best of luck @jovial latch everything will turn out in the end

[jovial latch]

maybe

turns out being jobless and all the stupid bullshit of this whole fucking process is not good for depression

i despise some of the things in this god damn indudstry

that and my recruiter for c1 takes at least 3 days to respond to my email and god damn it tell me if i made it to the final round

[normal palm]

the og is back

[livid yew]

What did I do?

[misty echo]

Can you share your interview experience if possible? What can be expected?

Can you share your interview experience if possible? What can be expected?

[livid yew]

I guess my social unawareness

Everything I said was genuine prayge moments

[misty echo]

Hi all, whoever has interviewed for flexport, can you please share your interview experience? I have mine in a week and need advice on how to prepare. Do we need to prepare for system design, OOD, leetcode type questions?

[livid yew]

No malicious intended @rain patio

Didn't answer my question but ok I guess lol

[pine topaz]

FAWK U @livid yew AND @pulsar mural

[livid yew]

Sorry to make you angry @rain patio I will try better next time

[fossil jewel]

nah just that it came off as insensitive that people cant find a job

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

it aint their skillset at all

just bad circumstance

[livid yew]

I am subconsciously insensitive

these are things to bring up to my psychiatrist I guess

[livid yew]

aka Social unaware

[fossil jewel]

eh it could've been interpreted as sarcasm more so

[livid yew]

really?

[fossil jewel]

"just get a job ez pz"

[livid yew]

that was never the intention

how could someone see that as sarcasm

I dont understand

Sorry bros

I will take a 7 day timeout

[fossil jewel]

nah this

[livid yew]

I see

[jovial latch]

i read it fast and ive been mentally in a rough place so i was annoyed

dunno bout other people

[livid yew]

the intention was
"the market sucks, and its not your fault, CEOs are scum"

anyways any leads recently?

[jovial latch]

the antidepressants are literally fighting in my head with the negative emotions from job searching

i kinda hate this fucking industry

[livid yew]

I am a very literal person, I need things spelled out everytime lol

[jovial latch]

just do my 9-5 quietly, get paid, then do whatever with that money

[livid yew]

I feel that, had 2 family deaths happen over christmas

a bit depressed still

maybe different depression

but it all sucks

[jovial latch]

yea, i just have a whole depression problem in general

'mild depression' supposedly

a bit more than that probably

[livid yew]

I never got tested for it

but I used to take anxiety meds

[jovial latch]

i never really got tested per say i just needed the anti depressants because it got to a point where the depression was interfering with things

[livid yew]

they helped like not at all

oh well

I have had enough people in my life rope, and I cannot go thru that again

[jovial latch]

im also strugglign to deal with the fact that we live in a dystopia, at least in my opinion

[livid yew]

lol

[jovial latch]

eh personal beliefs

[livid yew]

true

[jovial latch]

there are things that bother me

i dunno i was sick and i had food delivered the other day and i was like 'damn thats expensive but i can afford it'

service and retail workers really need to be paid more man

god damn

[livid yew]

I think that everytime I order food tho

[jovial latch]

kinda just a light example, i dont really want to get into the root of what bothers me here

[livid yew]

spending more than $50 at grocery gives me physical pain

probably just a lot of repressed thoughts from abuse as a child

[fossil jewel]

yeah, very recently they were essential workers sacrificing themselves during covid

[jovial latch]

oh my god the whole essential workers in everything but payment to 'fuck you give me my burger'

[livid yew]

I worked at a grocery store during covid

it was tough

[fossil jewel]

yeah it was scary times

[livid yew]

made a nice $9.25/hr

was in dark times bro

had a degree, all I could get was cashier jobs

so I took it

2020

I would go back if it came to it tho

I did not mind

[lone rapids]

Where u work now

[fossil jewel]

comcast

[livid yew]

I graduated college in May 2020

[fossil jewel]

he's the reason ur internet sucks

[livid yew]

I worked 3 part time jobs after grad

then got first swe job

people at grocery were rude

[lone rapids]

when you got job ?

swe

[livid yew]

october 2020

so I was working 2 jobs at the same time

double shifts lol

15-16 hour day

you guys will have better year

[lone rapids]

I see. Covid had impact but then market boomed

[livid yew]

I think by this summer

[lone rapids]

How can I apply to internships even when I'm graduating this may.

What if they ask me when you graduating

[fossil jewel]

can just say, fall

no one really checks grad date with school

[timber rock]

yea or say you plan on doing masters

[fossil jewel]

yeah they only know if you graduated by calling the uni for background checks

but they can’t tell when you might graduate

[livid yew]

true

[lone rapids]

interesting

but wont it be sus if I give them OPT instead of CPT

[jovial latch]

I might make a resume where I say I graduate in the fall

Apply to internships

[timber rock]

yea i made one that says im doing a masters

times are getting desperate

[jovial latch]

Already doing the masters lol

[timber rock]

oh lol

[jovial latch]

Though I should apply to internships , if I get the c1 offer it starts late August

Fuck

Well guess I'm doing that then

Yep

[fossil jewel]

good luck man

[teal jackal]

Yup

[timber rock]

yea I'd apply to everything while you don't have an offer yet

[teal jackal]

I kinda feel like I missed out on a social milestone by not doing retail or service work as a teen tbh
Shit work builds character

[jovial latch]

The c1 role is an entry level ML role, literally my fucking masters degree so I have to make it to the final round

From there, idk

[teal jackal]

do you have a final scheduled yet?

[jovial latch]

Haven't heard back from my recruiter who takes an entire week to respond to emails

Workday still shows me as in progress or whatever

For what that's worth

She did respond to a question I had last week so I was in consideration up to that point ik that much

It was just an hr screen there's no way I don't fucking move on

[timber rock]

good luck

[jovial latch]

Ye

Thanks

[timber rock]

im supposed to be hearing back if i got to the final for 3 companies this week and ive been religiously refreshing my email every 10 minutes for the past 2 days

[teal jackal]

3 companies?

man thats a lot to look forward to

[fossil jewel]

good luck to you all my homies

[timber rock]

yea ive honestly been quite unlucky with my timelines lol

i keep having like a month of absolutely nothing and then suddenly 4 interviews in a week

[jovial latch]

i mean is your college workload that bad?

[timber rock]

yes

[jovial latch]

ima be real all my shits online except a single lectuer i dont attend

so i dont have any reason to show up on campus

very light

[timber rock]

I'm doing uni work from 10am to 10pm every day and then leetcode 10pm - midnight then sleep

[jovial latch]

wow thats committed

[timber rock]

I have a compiler due on friday and this shit does not work

It's a stressful time

[outer radish]

anyone here tryna give me a sys design mock

i got the prompt, all ya'll gotta do is listen and judge lol

[slim mortar]

yall Im looking for a roomate to stay in a 2b2b with me in SF. Move in close to feb/march! if anyone has any leads, please dm!

[west egret]

I think it’s good for everyone to work a retail/service job once.

[fossil jewel]

you'd get less karens

[livid yew]

that was my 4th retail job

[fossil jewel]

entitlement

[livid yew]

I worked 4 retail jobs and 1 internship before I got FT offer

[fossil jewel]

some people shit on the service sector but u legit need them

[west egret]

I mean that’s not the point lol. It’s just good to see the other side of things.

[livid yew]

I had no other choice lol

is my point

it was either get a job, or be lazy at home

[west egret]

Yeah but you know what it’s like over there. So you’re less likely to be an ass to ppl who are just trying to get through their day.

[livid yew]

do most SWEs not have any retail exp?

[west egret]

🤷‍♂️

[sonic coral]

I 110% agree

[fossil jewel]

nah lots just game

i dont have retail exp

but my brother did

i remember some of the dumb shit he dealt with

[livid yew]

really?

my parents basically forced me to get job in HS and college

they said

"you cant be lazy at home, or we will abuse you" basically

[fossil jewel]

my parents cared about my education

[livid yew]

I did both

I did not work during school

this was summer job

[fossil jewel]

i did get some side jobs (tutoring and working secretary at an office)

[livid yew]

my Linkedin lists 12 positions

[fossil jewel]

i actually removed those jobs

and my medical scribing gig

bc i had reach outs for teaching or medical stuff

[tardy geode]

idk but i am losing hope and my anxiety is reaching new heights as i near graduation with no offer

[pine topaz]

TOMMOROW IS A NEW DAY KEEP PUSHING KING

[errant karma]

Wow the commitment here is unmatched

[errant karma]

You got this keep pushing

[dull wyvern]

i already graduated and am just being fucked in this shitshow!!

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

[outer radish]

Final tomorrow gang

[normal palm]

where at boss?

[lone rapids]

I already filled in graduation and honestly as an intl dont wanna do to much. I’ll fake the grad date ig then

[fossil jewel]

good luck homie

[chilly burrow]

Gl 🙏

[smoky star]

Fucking job applications

WHats the point of

Sending in hundred of applications

And 0 response

Such a waste of time

[chilly burrow]

Hav u gotten your resume reviewed?

[smoky star]

My resume is good enough, but the job market is so fucked up

[chilly burrow]

R u 100% sure?

I don't want 2 soun patronzin

But i thot my resume was decent until i shared it here and got ripped to shreds lol

Rlly helpd me out

[split plaza]

you good lol

[jovial latch]

i posted my resume and no one said anything so i can only assume its good

people dont really have much to say bout it with this version so honestly im just leaving it at where it is

[marsh juniper]

are you guys fine with moving to a random state to secure a job?

some of these positions aren't remote anymore

[smoky star]

Yes, I understand what you meant, but I can't change my previous job, my previous institution, but I would like to say that the format, and the resume it is already carefully written & formatted.
I would be fine in a normal condition, but this time is abnormal

[jovial latch]

yea it would really dependent

im in the nyc area, and i really like my living situtation and would hate to give it up

and ffs, im in the nyc area

there should be enough crap here

[smoky star]

Can I DM you privately?

[marsh juniper]

lol I was fine w/ the idea of moving until it said kansas city, missouri

[jovial latch]

try tennessee

🙃

there are some parts of america you should not go to

[marsh juniper]

feel that

[jovial latch]

honestly i spend too much time here recently lol, just anxious about potential offers n final rounds
i gotta get my mind off things, play some need for speed

i would play that hogwarts game but spiders are a thing and i dont do spiders

[marsh juniper]

I haven't been on here since 2021, obsessed for months, got an internship and now i'm back after I graduated haha

heard the hogwarts game is fire

[jovial latch]

i only discovered this place a week or two ago

and honestly im shooting myself in the foot for not having been here 5 years ago

[lone rapids]

u got job or nah

[marsh juniper]

L1 Google

Nah i'm searching after I graduated

[lone rapids]

we all are L1 Google

[marsh juniper]

actually I should be in 2022 grads tehcnically

u guys have hope, maybe the job market will correct before u graduate

[lone rapids]

maybe but the competition is pretty intense none the less

[fiery pasture]

Anyone had any success with applications in the US so far/

I am graduating this May and was wondering.

[fallen fox]

nah shits cursed

[wheat seal]

Same tbh

[smoky star]

Hehe

We are doomed

Lol

[pastel bane]

how am I supposed to get IT experience if you decide not to give me IT experience because I dont have any IT experience?

[pallid fulcrum]

!process palantir offer

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[teal jackal]

God I'm converted

The Honda civic type r is unbeatable as a track weapon

That's my dream car now

Fwd be damned

[potent ledge]

How do u see the salaries people have submitted through the bot?

Like when they do process offer

[lilac flare]

how long do you guys wait to follow up to recruiter when you are waiting for an offer

I waited for 6 days since the last email, and it's been over 2 weeks since the last interview

[grizzled bronze]

Follow up again

[tardy geode]

when there something called as "hiring event" at conferences , so is it that they hire you on the spot?

[faint igloo]

And 4 door daily drivable

[tardy geode]

or they tell you "like apply on careers page"

[errant karma]

if you have your resume you give it to them and they will send you an OA

You simply get moved to the top of the Resume screening pool

[teal jackal]

I have to admit I am dead set on buying a manual transmission for my first car

It'll probably be my last chance to buy a new manual transmission

[tardy geode]

Whats the average salary in PA?

for swe

why tf do companies ask desired salary

[dawn sequoia]

if you can get around the question, i answer with something like "id like to keep salary discussions later in the process when the time comes"

if youre answering in a phone call/interview

[tardy geode]

gotcha

[teal jackal]

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-BMW-M2-d2396#listing=349086174/NONE

hot DAMN

these cars are affordable now

$45k

civic type r? never heard of her

[compact vortex]

i still cant stand the m2 proportions

its probably a good drivers car

but the car just looks squished in all directions

[teal jackal]

I actually like it

It looks a bit like a boot

but I think it flows alright

the new gen M2 looks great too imo

the 230i xdrive can do 0-60 in like 4.9 seconds

only the M2 still offers a manual trans

M2, M3 and M4 are the last BMWs to offer manuals

[gray dagger]

Idk what makes more sense tho

[frigid meadow]

I graduated in 22, how’s the market for new grad and early careers roles currently?

[teal jackal]

shit

[gray dagger]

Should I just get a cheaper car and save up on a big luxury/sports car couple of years down the line

[teal jackal]

topkek

[gray dagger]

Or just get one and keep paying it off

[teal jackal]

YOLO and buy it now, or save up and buy it later?

I'm planning on going carless for 2 years, then buying an expensive car

[frigid meadow]

How so? Not many openings? Tough competition? Low comp?

[teal jackal]

first 2 points

[gray dagger]

But like an Elantra or something right now or a mustang electric

[teal jackal]

mustang mach e is expensive tho

like 40k

[gray dagger]

Not many openings

Yeah exactly idk if it makes sense to invest in a car early on in my career

But also don’t know what’s gonna happen a couple years from now 💀

[gray dagger]

America is a car country tho

[teal jackal]

i mean living in seattle is gonna SUCK without a car

but my WLB isnt too good anyways

i was planning on being a hikikomori anyways outside of work so it doesnt matter that much that I can't leave the city without a car

[gray dagger]

Let’s assume that you wanna get something to eat

[teal jackal]

yeah ill get bored of the city REALLY quickly

I lived in seattle last summer and yeah I got bored fast

[gray dagger]

American public transport sucks for some reason

Is Seattle that bad tho?

[teal jackal]

not that interesting as a city

[gray dagger]

Compared to LA or OC where I’m at

[teal jackal]

it probably is better than LA

but it still feels like a city developed around the assumption that everyone will own a car

[gray dagger]

What’s the homelessness look like

[teal jackal]

BAD

[gray dagger]

Dang

I would assume homelessness is only gonna go up in these cities

It’s like those old sci-fi movies where there is a lot of homeless people

And everything is controlled by AI

We’re getting close

[teal jackal]

quite depressing

anyways on the original point, id probably save up a bit

before getting your ideal car

[sweet quartz]

Anybody heard back from Flexport after final?

[obsidian crater]

Applying is so depressing

I haven't heard back from most

[fossil jewel]

LA a car city for sure

cant imagine not having a car there

[ivory stratus]

anyone know if IBM is open to remote?

[grizzled bronze]

I imagine that would be team dependent, I would ask the recruiter

[ivory stratus]

sheeee says up to 1 day a week

[teal jackal]

are you on track for offer?

[ivory stratus]

nah, just applying

[teal jackal]

ah

[ivory stratus]

saw it on linkedin

[teal jackal]

gl m8y

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah if it can be fully remote that'd be great, none of their locations are ideal

[ivory stratus]

oh wait wtf it says position closed

[wind drum]

Is there a list of companies that rescinded written NG offers?

[ivory stratus]

fuck maybe i should learn aws

or AI

[teal jackal]

Man I'm dealing with heartbreak rn over a 2004 honda accord
I miss that car a lot

good throttle response, durable and responsive clutch, good lightweight feeling handling

my dad got rid of it last year sadly

[ivory stratus]

anybody got any good resources or courses to learn pytorch?

[grizzled bronze]

Safety-wise not the best right now though right?

[teal jackal]

No 2004 car is safe compared to a 2023 car

Structurally not as safe, tech wise not as safe

Airbags are super important

The lack of side airbags actually terrifies me about cars built before 2005

Like a side impact from a truck would crack your skull

[faint igloo]

Plus shit in 2004 car is older regardless

[teal jackal]

Direct impact

Terrifying shit

Well tbh I'd buy an older car as long as it has side airbags

Side airbags are a non negotiable

[faint igloo]

Honestly im kinda down for like a civic si rn lol

[teal jackal]

Side airbags are The only thing I'm like "I NEED it to feel safe"

The 04 accord didn't have side airbags

[faint igloo]

https://discord.gg/v8Q9rNy6

[teal jackal]

Those handle well I heard

Gti is brawnier and has more power

[faint igloo]

Same price?

[teal jackal]

Similar segment

Yeah

[faint igloo]

I swear si has more space too no?

[teal jackal]

Idk

Not sure actually

[faint igloo]

Realistically id love a type r

But the price is too high lol

[teal jackal]

Elantra N is around 35k

Handling wise does 85% of what a civic type r does

Power train wise is 90% of a civic type r

I made these percentages up but you get the point

[faint igloo]

Lol r u looking to buy one after grad

[teal jackal]

Possibly or a civic type r

Planning on buying a car in 2025

If I survive at my company long enough to get the 10% annual bonus in Feb 2025

[faint igloo]

Jeez

[teal jackal]

10% bonus paid every feb

[ivory stratus]

what cfompany?

[teal jackal]

Hive

[faint igloo]

U started already?

[teal jackal]

Nope

Mid may

[faint igloo]

Lol gotta go sports sedan when u got one parking spot and friends to drive around

[ivory stratus]

that's why im getting a wrx lol

[teal jackal]

Type R entices me, I just hope the market for them cools down eventually

[ivory stratus]

i told my gf that i wanted a GR86/brz and she was like "that's impractical"

[teal jackal]

Reminiscing about the old Honda makes me excited about a type r

[ivory stratus]

it ain't gonna cool down

[teal jackal]

Sadly

[ivory stratus]

like look at the used Rs

and the Focus RS

[teal jackal]

They're still like 40k

It's wild

[ivory stratus]

like any hot hatch (other than golf R/gti) holds its value

[faint igloo]

Literally i use to want like sports coupes but now i see the big appeal of type rs hatchbacks

[ivory stratus]

i want one just for a fun car but yeah the wrx is the best of both worlds

my dream car is a porsche 718 gt4 rs

[faint igloo]

Yea id imagine if u got that ud also need like suv as a normal car

[ivory stratus]

yeah for sure lol

[faint igloo]

But u might as well have a house to do that lo

[ivory stratus]

my gf has a rav4 so i don't need a big car

[faint igloo]

Solid

[south bronze]

Hi, is there any channel for product manager roles?

did anyone do an interview with CITI for product manager role?

[chilly burrow]

I would still advise you anonoymize ur resume and share it in #1019675142248468601

[teal jackal]

A 4 seat coupe with tolerable sized rear seats is probably the smallest I'll go for a one size fits all car

Performance comes first but has to have at least some practicality

[willow marsh]

with the current AI race, would it be smart to go for a masters so im AI / ML qualified? i currently have a swe position locked up for 2023

[ivory stratus]

dude that's what im thinking

not necessarily going for a masters but just at least learning ai

[willow marsh]

HOLY SH*T MR BEAST!!!!

[willow marsh]

yeah the race is developing so fast, faster than i couldve imagined. google founders are back working, msft 10 billion into open AI, alibaba entering race now

makes me think i might benefit from being more qualified

[ivory stratus]

that's what im thinking too

like. now a whole bunch of companies are going to be racing to add ai to products

[teal jackal]

AI/ML gonna be a hot segment

Cloud and infra will continue to be in demand too

[ivory stratus]

yeah, i think plenty of jobs will open for ai though

and ml

[teal jackal]

I think there'll be a lot of demand for software devs to work on infra and ops for AI/ML

[ivory stratus]

im just gonna bust down and learn python and pytorch

[ivory stratus]

yeah true

[fossil jewel]

MlOps is nice

data engineering and the like will probably grow

[jovial latch]

hardest part is breaking into ai/ml, its not like theres much for entry level ml shit

what the fuck did i get my masters in ml for

[grizzled bronze]

@ivory stratus are you hiring any interns?

[fossil jewel]

fr i want to be an intern at mr beast llc

[dawn sequoia]

doesnt a masters in ML open the doors to ML jobs?

[jovial latch]

not really lol
ml roles all require a fuck ton of actual experience with all the ml shit right

[grave trellis]

first one to bring down prod gets a million dollars

[jovial latch]

and theres not much in terms of entry level ml roles

because its fucking ml

how do people just become ml engineers anyway

[grave trellis]

imagine getting a phd just to become an entry level engineer lol

[dawn sequoia]

you prob know more than me.. but i kinda wanna call cap

[cedar gulch]

Yeah the only ppl I know with ML roles out of new grad had a bunch of research experience

[dawn sequoia]

bc if you have a MS or PhD in ML then i assume you have some ML related projects and/or publications from your grad program to show

[cedar gulch]

and specialized in ML

[jovial latch]

yea well i have the masters but no research experience

it was all fuckin class shit

ive also been applying that too LMAO

like, literally, everything

i dont care what the fuck i do as long as it pays

[neon perch]

Did you?

[sweet quartz]

No, not yet

[nova reef]

ngl a master without research experience is just a 5th year of undergrad in many employer's eyes in AI/ML field

[teal jackal]

^

Taking classes isn't enough

Tbh a master's degree as a whole is useless for tech unless you want to do it full time and do a thesis

Being on thesis track would also look good for interviews

[jovial latch]

Eh, I only did it cause it didn't require any extra time

[fossil jewel]

4 + 1 program?

[jovial latch]

Something like that, except in 4 years lol

I could have graduated with a bachelor's in 3 years

....kinda wish I did now lmao

[lone rapids]

Can you guys review my resume? I posted it in resume section. Mostly, I'm getting all rejections

[fossil jewel]

ngl your resume is pretty solid, you might wanna remove the classes though? It also could be sponsorship reasons if so

and you said new protocol, wonder if you can go in depth about it (its ok if not)

[west egret]

I think overall it looks fine but there are some nitpicky things. For your internship bullets, I’d try to keep each one to one sentence only. Also, I think listing courses you’ve taken isn’t needed. At least I wouldn’t read it and taking a course doesn’t mean you’re necessarily proficient in that subject.

[fossil jewel]

ye

if there's more than one sentence its worth a new bullet point

otherwise its pretty solid

[west egret]

Is it just me or does replying to messages on Discord not work on mobile? I swear it's been doing that to me recently.

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural what are your favorite kind of Oreos

I like double stuff

[fossil jewel]

i like golden oreos or the ones with the chocolate filling

[west egret]

I didn't know there were golden oreos

then again I never go out of my way to buy oreos

[nocturne oriole]

Oreos and chips ahoy are easily the best mass produced cookies

[fossil jewel]

golden ones are better than the og tbh

[nocturne oriole]

I tried birthday cake flavor once and wanted to vomit

[fossil jewel]

crazy i was gonna get that one before but did a nvm and put it back

[west egret]

I hate mass produced chocolate chip cookies

I'd rather just buy the ones baked at a grocery store

[fossil jewel]

oh for sure

[west egret]

even if it's a generic no name grocery place

[fossil jewel]

those are good

there's a place not too far from bbg that has everything for $3.0

https://www.matto.com/

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/oreos-oreo-gif-11167707

[west egret]

Workday had a coffee bar and I only went there twice

It wasn’t even expensive. Maybe $2/coffee?

But I just didn’t want to spend money when there was a coffee machine on my floor. It had diff stuff like espressos, cafe mocha, etc

[fossil jewel]

yeah same

[lone rapids]

Thank you for the review

[livid yew]

no it says 2.50

[fossil jewel]

i think in store its 3

online ordering might be 2.5

[livid yew]

I mean who doesnt order ahead bruh

ChatGPT powered Bing

[fossil jewel]

sounds pretty good

[west egret]

It’d be funny if Bing actually became the standard instead of a meme

[livid yew]

I daily use bing

and edge

[fossil jewel]

edge is okay

[grizzled bronze]

I just installed Microsoft Bing App to get faster access to the waitlist for ChatGPT powered Bing

[teal jackal]

If u ever visit suburban Massachusetts the market basket cookies SLAP

Chatgpt might be a game changer for bing

Exciting stuff

[pine topaz]

@fossil jewel do u like the bdya ones

[fossil jewel]

the what

[fossil jewel]

never had it

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-ew-gross-david-rose-disgusted-gif-18489037

[fossil jewel]

this one is good

[pine topaz]

yes, it is so disgusting

[pine topaz]

WHAT IS THIS, THIS IS A US OREO

[fossil jewel]

:(((

[fossil jewel]

do you have this at least

[errant karma]

Damn YouTube is down

[wild igloo]

this is where we're at now

[frank wind]

Fired the wrong engineers 😛

[errant karma]

You do touch grass so you might water

[errant karma]

They are about to find out the importance of hiring more engineers

[pine topaz]

ya, these are okay, i like original ones more

[sonic coral]

Bruh why are they looking for cs people 💀

[fossil jewel]

i like them more than og's

[pine topaz]

dont u like the chocolate and cream contrast more in the ogs

[fossil jewel]

i like the ogs

but the golden ones are nice with coffee

[pine topaz]

i gotta try that now

what T_T

i dipped them in milk, but never coffee

wtff

[fossil jewel]

i dip in warm coffee

with milk ofc

not black coffee

[pine topaz]

do people do this or only you

[fossil jewel]

[fossil jewel]

i think thats just a me thing

[pine topaz]

[fossil jewel]

its kinda good tho

[pine topaz]

interesting, ill try next time

[fossil jewel]

hot choc or cappuccino can work

[grizzled bronze]

@sonic coral can you please put YouTube back up

[sonic coral]

Bitch I’m in legal

[pine topaz]

hot choc and ogdlen oreos sounds good ngl

[sonic coral]

Don’t talk to me unless you’re Saul Goodman

[pine topaz]

i see where ur coming form now

[fossil jewel]

always inventing weird stuff

[pine topaz]

i tried mixing rice and protein powder once, never do that

[fossil jewel]

[tranquil mason]

dw im fixing it rn

[glass egret]

anyone heard of keysight and done their oa before?

[jaunty basalt]

They got some good dsp stuff

[pine topaz]

when I am with ur mom, it reminds me of @pulsar mural grandmotheer that I always looked up to, so a bit yes.

thanks for asking - I miss her.

[fossil jewel]

i never did their OA but i have heard of it

[glass egret]

gotcha... do you know the interview process?

[fossil jewel]

nope

[nocturne oriole]

https://tiermaker.com/create/all-oreo-flavors-118421

[fossil jewel]

i dont think i had that many

i did try this one that had pb but i didnt like it

[nocturne oriole]

this one wasn't there but it's at top of B tier for me

[fossil jewel]

fudge is nice

[pine topaz]

WTF IS OREO WATERMELON

hot chciek wings

swedish fish

💀

[west egret]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/02/08/affirm-cuts-19percent-of-workforce-shares-tank-on-earnings-miss.html

Waiting for a week without some tech company doing layoffs 💀

[jaunty storm]

That's quite a cut.

[west egret]

1 out of every 5 ppl

[jaunty storm]

I'm curious how it'll play out in the end.

All these people have to go somewhere.

Usually ahead of me in the resume pile.

I'm guessing applying to places that got the COVID boost with the online stuff is not ideal.

[rain patio]

Why even invest in affirm

Literally buy now pay later company

Their business is unreliable

[timber rock]

neeeed job

[jovial latch]

yea dont we all

[tardy geode]

2023 messed up , i have accepted my fate

wtf apple is laying off?

i saw one linkedin post rn

[sonic coral]

Not surprised they had the least sales revenue since 2019 or something

https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/02/apple-revenue-drops-amid-quarterly-hardware-decline/amp/

First year over year loss since 2019

[pine topaz]

brooo theres no news on this yet...

wtf t_t

[smoky star]

The market is not bad enough for us, so Affirm decides to release even more experienced Engineers to the market

Hehe

[pine topaz]

Dharman studious is doing layoffs, making the market more fiereced.

[lone rapids]

Should i fake being a junior or a rising senior or dec 2023 for internships

[daring gazelle]

Its pretty reliable because we all know the federal reserved will bail them out. And besides the purchases loss are small compare to housing. I would buy their stocks during a recession ngl

[daring gazelle]

Say whatever you have to say to get in

[rocky yacht]

I can attest to that. Sure beats being unemployed

[rain patio]

got my apple rejection 10 hours ago and now kd to the suns

[teal jackal]

r e c e s s i o n

[teal jackal]

I do not think so

They aren't General Motors or a big bank

those companies are arguably too big to fail

you let those die, and millions of people get fucked

Let affirm starve to death tbh

wont cause a ripple effect on the economy

[teal jackal]

i can not stop dreaming about getting a civic type r

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

disney is next

Q1 is all layoffs

100 applicants in 32 mins wow

ffs

[livid yew]

Oof

Wait

DISNEY

bruh

[pine topaz]

diseny dosent effect tech workers do they

[teal jackal]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/7f7b54b6ef210f8914656fb2825c82f3.jpg

Honda popped OFF with this car

Wait disney is laying off?

[teal jackal]

streaming service growth is slowing

tbh fuck streaming services anyways

Piracy gang

[pine topaz]

oo right disney plus

yarrr piracy gang bc i do be broke af

[livid yew]

That's crazy tho

Since Disney is such an old company

Compared to these newer tech companies like Google, Meta, Affirm, etc

[teal jackal]

even when im rich ill still be torrenting movies

and ill even help with seeding the files

on a burner pc

[vast rock]

If anyone is joining Hive AI plz dm for discord server link

[chilly burrow]

Share it in #server-links

[tardy geode]

@teal jackal

[lilac flare]

which job posting is that

[tardy geode]

apple , software quality engineer

fml i couln't solve number of good pairs FUC

[teal jackal]

im already in the server

[teal jackal]

you learn from it

no shame in that

[lone copper]

anyone just skip the stubhub OA? I applied to stubhub and got a recruiter phone call tmrw but when I look into the process seems like most people had to do an OA first, really confused maybe they will give me it later but seems weird

[obsidian oxide]

what role?

[obtuse night]

Did anyone’s dive deep project part for Flexport Onsite got reduced to half an hour only?

[obsidian oxide]

Yep

they modified my schedule to do that too

[obtuse night]

Do you maybe know why? No hc? Or just the manager is busy

[obsidian oxide]

recruiter said earlier that they are modifying interview process slightly. Maybe this is a part of that change

unsure

[modern spade]

Is flexport still giving oas

[faint igloo]

nah i think it was more like the original format was unnecessarily long

[livid yew]

Oh I know it's just not a new fangled zoomer tech place

[late kestrel]

shuddup u zoomer

[livid yew]

I'm an older zoomer who values timeless stuff

[late kestrel]

[livid yew]

[pastel bane]

what can referrals do comparing to normally applying?

[lone copper]

I can't check and I don't remember what I applied to, I just know it's an engineering role

Why? Have you also applied to it?

[obsidian oxide]

just curious if it is a new grad role

[nimble cosmos]

Anyone know pmg graduate program swe role salary is negotiable? Or is it just a flat 68k

[dry salmon]

anyone take veeva oa?

[vital leaf]

Straight reject after applying bro

Which role?

[leaden forum]

Hi guys! Are there any resources where we could get a list of companies that currently have New Grad roles for Data?

[vital leaf]

2023 grad?

[leaden forum]

Yess!

[vital leaf]

Hm

Finding a job right is like looking for a needle in a haystack

[leaden forum]

ughh tell me about it

[vital leaf]

Applied like 2000 jobs with faang profile. 😭

Not a single callback

[vague furnace]

Jeez all of these layoffs make me believe it’ll just make job hunting harder this quarter and next 😓

[west egret]

NGL 2000 is a lot without any responses. Might want to consider getting resume reviewed.

[lone rapids]

2000? Where did you even find this many.

[vital leaf]

All job boards bro, linkedin, indeed, zipr, monster, etc

[lone rapids]

International?

[vital leaf]

Applied only in states

Have been applying since sep'22

[distant rampart]

2000 and no response is a bit weird

[vital leaf]

Hm

[distant rampart]

Im international with faang profile, avg school. Applied 200 and got 5-6 interviews

Maybe get ur resume reviewed again

[vital leaf]

Yes

[jovial latch]

aight has anyone heard back from c1 bout their ml new grad thing?

and before y'all ask the app isnt there anymore

[grizzled bronze]

If it's been a week, follow up

[jovial latch]

i sent a follow up email on monday lol

ill send another one next monday

last week she answered a question i had so i was in consideration up to that point

shes also just....incredibly slow with emails

what in the actual fuck do recruiters do all day where they take a whole week to repsond to emails

fuckin twats

[grizzled bronze]

It's not just recruiters though, hiring managers and other employees can take a while to get back to them

[jovial latch]

i get that, but something as simple as 'oh they're still deciding lol' could have been sent

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah, some recruiters could be better about that

[jovial latch]

i politely asked when i could expect to hear back, cause like, she said it would take round 2-3 weeks

its kinda about that time

[vital leaf]

just added my resume in resume channel, feel free to review and give me feedback

[rain patio]

How do you guys send out so many apps, almost every job requires years of experience; do you apply to them anyway too

[jovial latch]

i just go for anything <2 yoe

explicit new grad apps take priority

mind you i have literally never heard back from apps unless they were explicitly new grad

[grizzled bronze]

The better the WLB, the slower the recruiter responds

[livid yew]

masters degree

Sheeeesh

[grizzled bronze]

Hard to tell if Microsoft even has recruiters

[rain patio]

I've applied to all in that GitHub of 2023 new grad links and have only had 2 phone interviews so far X_X most no reply