2023_grads

[jaunty basalt]

Bro couldn’t do anything

[sonic coral]

You know that could be helping why the TikTok gen is the way they are the kids entering hs now are basically 6th-7th graders mentally lmao

[fossil jewel]

fr she just like me

when we started getting back in person my body got used to it

and i was burnt out so i barely went to school my last two semesters in person

[tardy geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[livid yew]

[fallen fox]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[jovial latch]

its kinda like how a job works remotely
some people can operate remotely and similarily can do hs remotely and do their shit ig

some people need that in person stuff

[fossil jewel]

i like hybrid

i think online alone id lose my mind

[jovial latch]

i can do jobs just about fine hybrid n remote

though im far less productive inside an office

mainly cause im not a god damn fucking morning person

[fossil jewel]

i think overtime i like being a morning person

when i’m in school i’m not

[jovial latch]

ive done a buncha internships, i cant relate

cant shift towards the morning

i would always just get up/start working at like 11-12

not that it mattered cause they all thought i was super productive

i mean i was thinking, why bother getting up at 9 all tired n crap, im not gonna be able to do any work in that state

well rested 4ish hours of work, pretty good id say

and thats the thing right, on-site you have to appear productive for 8 hours

[fossil jewel]

eh depends

i just walk around from time to time to grab snacks bathroom

i get the online pros

[jovial latch]

you know i get that
but also, i like my own toilet and i can sit on my bed on fucking sprint planning meetings

[livid yew]

how

you just prop laptop up?

I usually have my camera on

I like work bathroom, cause I dont have to clean it

[pine topaz]

how r u guys suppose to watch twitch in office

[jovial latch]

cameras arent used in every meeting

only for the actual important meetings iirc

[livid yew]

oh its never required

I just like having it on

[jovial latch]

lol

thats a first

[livid yew]

idk bro I came from a in-office job last year, so its ingrained in me

[livid yew]

idk I sorta force myself to be less introverted

it causes me great mental pain sometimes tho

[jovial latch]

i just go by whether everyone has their cameras on

[livid yew]

oh

that is smart

[jovial latch]

id say its unnessacarily awkward to have a camera on when no one else has one

just gotta read the room

[livid yew]

no assert dominance

lmao

[jovial latch]

shirtless?

[livid yew]

I am in the office 3-4 days a week, so it doesnt matter for me

[teal jackal]

i do webcam on if i can tell at least a third of the room is

[livid yew]

I wake up and get dressed every day

wtf

[teal jackal]

if at least a third of the call is webcam on, theyre inevitably gonna be like "lets turn webcams on guys"

[west egret]

I always did camera on but that's because most ppl did

[livid yew]

if I am in the office, its always there so no choice

I think most people on my team do

I usually forget its even on

[west egret]

If it's a bigger meeting with other teams and it's like 30+ ppl

I don't bother with camera

[jovial latch]

i walk around shirtless in my place yo

[west egret]

generally the less ppl in the meeting, the more likely I'll have camera on

[jovial latch]

but yea the easiest thing is to just go with what everyone else is doing with cameras

majority

[livid yew]

weird but I guess

[jovial latch]

is it really

[livid yew]

I don't like being un-clothed

it feels wrong

[jovial latch]

i dont do it all the time

[livid yew]

to each their own

[teal jackal]

i did a work meeting with my nuts out once

[jovial latch]

but yea ill walk around shirtless but with pants on

[teal jackal]

fully remote, online call with webcams on

[livid yew]

when I eventually hop to a fully remote job, maybe lol

all my past jobs, they tracked all that sort of stuff

so its been tough for me to break old habits

[jovial latch]

classic shitty management

[livid yew]

well yeah it was not a tech place

they just happened to need developers

[jovial latch]

anyone competent understands you get the most productivity out of SWE's when you let them operate how they want

lol

[livid yew]

I guess I am not competent

cause I still sorta dont like fully remote lol

[jovial latch]

well i said how you want

and some people like being on-site

im not some remote elitist

the real answer is flexibility

[livid yew]

true

[jovial latch]

let people work how they want

[livid yew]

yesterday I worked 6 hours in the office than another 4 at home

lol

[jovial latch]

depending on my mood n workload i worked remote or walked over to the company office and worked over the summer

and that was good

sometimes i showed up in the afternoon to the office

[livid yew]

I guess since I have not been given that choice yet

I just do what they say, and try to stay small and unimportant lol

[fossil jewel]

weren’t you a frat boy

[ivory stratus]

Im so stoked to finally have a meeting to talk about my internship today

So ready to get paid doing something related to my degree

[chilly burrow]

congratz 🎈

[livid yew]

Just saw something crazy

mf the President's motorcade casually rolls by my apartment

[hidden fable]

Anyone interviewed with Barclays for Developer Analyst - Explorer Graduate Program – 2023 Superday?

[teal jackal]

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-jobs-students-tech-software-hiring-earnings-2023-2

I hope Amazon starts ramping up the new grad pipeline soon for yall

[fossil jewel]

damn shoulda applied

i withdrew app bc it was in NJ

[timber rock]

🫡

they gotta be planning on unfreezing in q2 like previously planned

i feel like they wouldn't make a change like that if they weren't planning on hiring anyway

[sonic coral]

This is a 10million IQ move

You can’t negotiate with asp

So effectively all new L4 hires are at the same pay

[teal jackal]

yeah since l4 industry hires can nego

that makes a lot of sense

well tbh that sucks for people who got laid off with <2 years yoe

[green pendant]

a promise is a promise🫡

[rain patio]

prerty dumb

they need senior engineers

[teal jackal]

theyre still hiring seniors i think

but theyre saying for l4 theyre only hiring grads

[timber rock]

no they need juniors please hire me please please

[teal jackal]

Amazon really needs the frugality tbh

get the l4 to be the code monkey

[timber rock]

amazon really needs alterium

[teal jackal]

fr

alterium's skills are highly valuable at any company

🔥

[timber rock]

facts fr fr

[rain patio]

juniors briung negative productivity to the company

[timber rock]

speak for yourself mate

i will bring 3x productivity

[sonic coral]

No this just means they’re only using ASP pipeline for L4

No more industry hires

[green pendant]

No I will write more LOC's that anyone else in the company😤

[rain patio]

ic

[west egret]

Same. I’ll copy and paste code blocks instead of using for loops.

[thick cave]

Do you guys think medium level dp which involve writing out a dp table are fair questions for interviews

[karmic harness]

No dp imo

[thick cave]

Tell that to my interviewer

bro had 1000s of options to choose from and chose some next dp question

[tardy geode]

Q2 2023 please be gentle

[tardy geode]

congrats on flexport .

[raven token]

i rather do dp than topological sort

forget the implementation half the time

but with dp you dont have to memorize anything

[lament basin]

toposort is just a dfs bro

u dont need kahns algo most of the time

[raven token]

i do it the bfs way

[lament basin]

ya kahns algo

[raven token]

already forgot it lmao

[lament basin]

with indegree etc

[raven token]

o ye

[lament basin]

u can just postorder traversal dfs

[raven token]

fr?

i remember the dfs implementation was annoying

[lament basin]

https://cp-algorithms.com/graph/topological-sort.html#the-algorithm

not really

its pretty straight forward

[raven token]

damn will remember this

[lament basin]

toposort is all fun and games

until u need to implement kosaraju

🪦

[raven token]

lets hope u never need that level of algos in interviews

outside of quant

[lament basin]

i once had to do kosaraju and then run a 0-1 dp* on the resulting scc graph

[livid yew]

imagine memory ability

[livid yew]

the fuck is that

[lament basin]

scc algo loosely based on toposort

[raven token]

fr

[livid yew]

I dont remember that from college

[lament basin]

ya cuz they dont teach it in college lmfao

[livid yew]

oh

lol

I barely remember anything from DSA class lol

that was in 2017 for me

so resonable to forget some of it

[lament basin]

biggest problem with dsa class in college is that its taught in C

[livid yew]

mine was in Java

everything was java

all of it

[lament basin]

no way

DSA in Haskell

[teal jackal]

sounds like hell lol

[ivory stratus]

you guys had actual code for algorithms?

[lament basin]

tbh my schools ds/algo courses were kind of a joke

[sonic coral]

Lmao I had lc mediums on my algo exams in school

[green pendant]

thank you so much!

[rain patio]

u joining flex or bb

[rancid token]

anyone know how long it takes to hear back after oracle final?

[blazing flame]

is new grad process easier than intern hunting?

[livid yew]

@fossil jewel

[chilly burrow]

Def not dis yr

[dawn sequoia]

what are triplebyte quizzes like?

i watched this video on their site about "how it works" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4bL9K8wpAQ

just wondering if that's how it's set up for every quiz or a company can skip the rest and just do DSA/LC questions for the entire test

[grizzled bronze]

Hell no

There's a lot more intern roles and headcount for interns, lower bar usually too

[ivory stratus]

new grad process is absolute shit this year

[timber rock]

most new grad slots are taken by return interns

we have to fight for the scraps

[ivory stratus]

what scraps lol

[timber rock]

🙃

[grizzled bronze]

https://boards.greenhouse.io/mrbeastyoutube/jobs/4771598004

**Although we love the hustle, please do not reach out directly to any of the recruiters or other team members directly for this role!

[sonic coral]

I love how they’re like “what’s your salary expectations (non currency answers are auto-rejected)”

[ivory stratus]

i already told you

margins are low

i can't pay my employees that well, i just pay them in cars

[ivory stratus]

i can do that too

[green pendant]

flex only bb I got rejected rip

[teal jackal]

flexport is pretty goated

[teal jackal]

pay me in corolla GRs pl0x

[grizzled bronze]

How about Milka chocolate bars instead of Feastables

[south cipher]

Is it still possible for May 2023 graduate to get a job? what do ya'll think? 😭

[bleak ocean]

No

[south cipher]

thanks for confirming 😩

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/106089884585861120/649fba6fc0d1d1b36e12d15113093d1b.png?size=2048

[fossil jewel]

sick

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1051718736085782538/1064326160504328302/Oreos_cat_in_clown_costume_646d12f6-e97c-4830-ab47-2dbf59c77886.png

[livid yew]

what prompt did u use

[fossil jewel]

friend used cat in clown costume

[livid yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070912470086058084/1071299672699830382/Techie3446_pog_cat_c7d9641c-277e-465d-9ecc-0c7e5e91b78f.png

[livid yew]

[lone rapids]

@green pendant how many past internships u have

[tardy geode]

@green pendant thanks for inspiring me , congrats again . get drunk mate!

[lone rapids]

do you know if he is BS or MS?

[fossil jewel]

hopefully ur next brother

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

I have to admit the fwd elantra n and civic type r grew on me

I value handling more than straight line speed

[teal jackal]

If I upgrade the clutch and sway bar on the golf r I'll have a car that's in every way better than all its competition

Tough decision

[teal jackal]

the more research i do into the golf r the more i go like
"damn vw and audi are allergic to building drivers cars"
but with a rear sway bar and clutch upgrade you can get a ton of potential out of it

still mulling a golf r with the manual since its only 2 mods from being the perfect car

[tardy geode]

[teal jackal]

Good luck broski

we love u bro

[tardy geode]

thanks mate 🙂 .

when you moving to WA?

[green pendant]

no not at all flex stocks aren't worth shit

paper money wise bb and flex are comparable

[tardy geode]

if someone is in my linkedin connection , and i don't remove them from connections but I unfollow them . So will they not pop up in my feed ? like their posts or whatever they share/like

[green pendant]

but bb is in nyc so taxes are higher

[green pendant]

2

[teal jackal]

monday after i graduate

[teal jackal]

correct

[green pendant]

shit sorry my bad

[tardy geode]

Good Luck my g , All the best for this new phase of your life . I know you will shine!

[grizzled bronze]

I reneged an offer in the past, now considering contacting the recruiter to see if they could extend me an intern offer without having to re-interview

[teal jackal]

my company does paper money too

i dont count it in my TC

but either way I'm happy with my pay

[lilac flare]

Bs chewy didnt even send me an OA and rejected me

[foggy vortex]

same they probably filled the position

[sleek pivot]

Hey everyone! Are you looking to improve your coding skills? Current SWEs at MSFT and AWS offering 1:1 coding mentorship where they can help guide you through any obstacles and assist with any questions you may have. Whether you're a beginner or intermediate, we can help you reach your goals. Let's grow together! If interested, shoot me a DM and we can discuss further details. We will be working on a personalized plan including but not limited too resume reviews, coding sessions, and referrals. As resources are limited and the nature of 1:1 experience we will only be filling in 10 spots!

[outer radish]

genuinely gonna lock down a Kona N for my first job

the n division at hyundai's got the most bang for your buck cause the new mk 8's VW golfs in canada are so damn expensive

[teal jackal]

GTI aint competitive with the elantra n only 2k away

kona N is good

[sonic coral]

hyundai too easy to steal now though

like many insurers wont even insure them

[teal jackal]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/0A3l3/s1/hyundai-i30-n-with-n-option-showcar.jpg

but I wish we got the euro-spec elantra N

the NA spec looks like a shark with a gaping mouth

[teal jackal]

push start is immune

but then again the average retard who steals hyundais will try to break in anyways

[median stump]

I gave OA and next phase online interview for Barclays

Did anyone received mail after ?

[jovial latch]

blegh i got this dumbass automated assessment bs immediately after i applied

are they actually still hiring

[sonic coral]

Yeah that’s the thing

There’s literally TikTok’s about how to steal kias and Hyundais now

So even if your Hyundai is immune it’ll still cost an assload to insure even if they let you because they know it’ll likely get broken into

[grizzled bronze]

Any recommendations on the most efficient one?

[sonic coral]

Most efficient to steal?

[pulsar mural]

yo

[grizzled bronze]

yo

[dawn sequoia]

yo

[teal jackal]

Yo

[teal jackal]

look for one built before 2021 and requires the key physically stuck into the slot for ignition(hyundai is offering a fix now though)

honestly Hyundai damaged their reputation hardcore with this one

I still think the Elantra N is a safe and reliable car, but higher than tolerable chance some moron tries to steal it

[fossil jewel]

yo @pulsar mural

[sonic coral]

Oh big time

I’d stay away from Hyundai Kia for the time being because I think the entire make will have crazy insurance for that reason

[west egret]

greetings

[outer radish]

anyone else book how mich shit there is for system design

like I thought this was gonna be cake walk regurgitate a 300 level course but naw

[gusty storm]

Anyone had the final round interview for IMC hardware position?

[teal jackal]

My local Toyota dealer is goofy ahh

$57k for the new corolla gr

Though there's one for $46k somewhere else, more stomach able

But still cringewortby

[faint igloo]

dis dood REALLY wants a speedy hatchback

[prime palm]

company?

[west pagoda]

Pan saying he's done recruiting goddamn

[muted girder]

what did Pan get?

[west pagoda]

nothing so far idt, he's just done with the process

[muted girder]

HUH

[west pagoda]

yeah in his current stream he said if last interview doesn't work out, he'll stop

just go youtube + startup route

[fossil jewel]

damn what if he hires peeps from here

[west pagoda]

Pan the next Zuck frfr

[pulsar mural]

cute snout

[fossil jewel]

unlike yours

who taught you that word

[errant karma]

It was through Pans YouTube videos that made me get an internship

[grizzled bronze]

ur mom has a cute snout

[livid yew]

@grizzled bronze pick one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041742285735473154/1071616401346936842/Techie3446_NYC_at_night_cf1fa358-c719-48cc-8b2f-34685378d5a1.png

[grizzled bronze]

The first one

[frank wedge]

Fourth

[neon perch]

Third one for sure

[fossil jewel]

might as well say second to confuse techie even more

[sonic coral]

actually you guys are blind

the fifth is obv the best

[fossil jewel]

damn u right

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

hey girlie

[pulsar mural]

OREO

OREO

OREO

[fossil jewel]

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21382840

[teal jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F9iygUoW64&ab_channel=AmazonNews

I'm gonna make an Amazon Bar Raiser nightcore remix

[lime pollen]

anyone here know if Mastercard conducts pre-employment drug tests?

[teal jackal]

correct!

[teal jackal]

startup? like join a startup or found one?

i mean we should just ask pan directly topkek

where did pan go btw? is he still in this server

[livid yew]

@fossil jewel

I am going to make oreo cookies tomorrow

[teal jackal]

good evening techie

hope your day has been splendid

[livid yew]

did on-call this morning

at like 3am

[pine topaz]

this is a saturday...

[nocturne oriole]

I am also oncall…
@pulsar mural @fossil jewel are helping me

They told me to just ignore the SEVs

And let next shift handle it

[livid yew]

it was a sev2

so

probably could have waited til Monday

but I was bored lol

[nocturne oriole]

If i ever get anything worse than sev3 it’s not like i can fix it myself lol

[livid yew]

wdym'

[nocturne oriole]

Our system is
4=minor
0=wtf hell broke loose

[livid yew]

oh

[nocturne oriole]

Rated 0 to 4

[livid yew]

ours its the other way

if our EC2 goes down

that is like uhh

sev1

cause it SHOULD auto restart

[nocturne oriole]

It makes sense to have the worst be 0 or 1 tho cuz it sets a hard upper bound for severity

Like what can be possibly worse than all systems down

[livid yew]

my last job we did not have a sev level

everything was sev0'

and if you did not answer within 15min, you got pay cut

$27/hr too

[fossil jewel]

i did nothing of the sort

[livid yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041742285735473154/1071630912938315806/Techie3446_whatever_this_is_7dc03c0a-8855-4048-8724-07b7053d429c.png

[fossil jewel]

think you're mistaking me for @pine topaz

[pine topaz]

@livid yew did u atleast get compensated for on call

[livid yew]

yes

[nocturne oriole]

Idk why but i think oreos pfp is the funniest shit i’ve seen in my life

It always cracks me up

[livid yew]

let me see what AI does with it

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

[nocturne oriole]

Ok but that emote name

[fossil jewel]

i wasnt gonna type thoughts all fully

too long

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural time for LeetCode

don't forget your daily LC

[fossil jewel]

hmmm

no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899113266909970432/1055386296564056085/cat.gif

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural this u

u on ur way to ruin someone's day

[faint igloo]

honestly i get the appeal, want a sports car down the line but the fact its only two doors is annoying making hatchbacks really good picks, regardless im too broke to own sports cars lol

[normal palm]

[rain patio]

Bro wtf

[gloomy terrace]

Apprently Amazon back to hiring new grads?

[dawn sequoia]

source?

[gloomy terrace]

My roommate heard from his recruiter

[jovial latch]

yea well i didnt see any god damn new grad postings

unless im a fuckin idiot

[gloomy terrace]

Me too lol

[proven umbra]

Man the job market is so brutal

[pastel bane]

how does the OA webpage detect if you are not on the current page?
and how to avoid it except using a second computer?

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

ayo what?

cap?

[timber rock]

It does seem likely for amazon at least

Their sde 1 policy change wouldn't have happened if they weren't planning on hiring sde 1

Meta recruiters have been saying "we will start hiring in x month" for every month since like november so not sure about that lol

[west egret]

The question is if anyone is even going to trust FANG offers after what’s happened over the past 4 months.

[timber rock]

meta can definitely not be trusted but I think the rest will be relatively safe

[obsidian oxide]

What policy change?

[timber rock]

They now only hire new grads for sde 1

[obsidian oxide]

Ah

Gotcha Ty

[timber rock]

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-jobs-students-tech-software-hiring-earnings-2023-2

[teal jackal]

Doesn't Amazon have a century long wait list anyways

Return offers from fall and new grad hire waitlists

They have to fulfill all of them first

Not to mention the people with offers who need to be matched to a team

[west egret]

And ppl who got delayed start dates

[gray dagger]

Nah new grads in waitlist got rejected

It’s only the delayed start dates that are still in the game

[timber rock]

american L

they never waitlisted us here 😎 just ghosted

[gray dagger]

My final onsites got canceled

Amazon 👎🏻

[timber rock]

😦

[toxic latch]

What about those who are 'under consideration ' after doing oa2?

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[timber rock]

yes, thats what im saying

only new grads are being hired for sde 1

[deep summit]

Anyone going hive wanna make a group? Dm pls

[nimble shore]

anyone has tiktok discord for new grad?

[fossil jewel]

bruh do you not sleep

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/699897845477670963/1055952433001545879/d-19.gif

[teal jackal]

Hi what's up bro. Hive gang?

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

[green pendant]

+1 fall 22 interns haven't gotten return offers yet

kinda don't believe that amazon would hire external ng's right now while interns from a month ago are waiting for return offers

[rain patio]

roblox is a great game!

[livid yew]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-annoyed-squidward-spongebob-freak-out-gif-18780512

[tardy geode]

anyone own a Bose QC45?

how are they?

[grizzled bronze]

I used to own one, it was good

Upgraded to NC 700

[tardy geode]

Prayge for the upcoming week , hope our inboxes are wet with offers,OA,interview requests

[pine topaz]

no more layoffs and freezes

[prime palm]

I'm already wet

[tardy geode]

[fossil jewel]

i miss binarysearch

it was a good site

[errant karma]

Wait binarysearch is no longer there

I can pay hosting fees for it

[dawn sequoia]

[grizzled bronze]

They don't want to sell it

[errant karma]

What about support it through donations from users

But well it was a really nice website

[sonic coral]

i think most software cant be supported with donations usually

[errant karma]

I can see how that’s unreliable way of having it run but it is better to try than just shut it down

[gray dagger]

How does binary search compare to leetcode

I’ve literally only heard of binary search on this server

[fossil jewel]

basically i feel like some problems are well tagged better in terms of difficulty

also the biggest thing is that you can create rooms with either friends or join a randos room

and do problems together

either from companies or select topics or difficulty

i might have ss

[plush lily]

Never tried it😔😔

[lament basin]

rest in peace

binary search

[pure mauve]

lol rip op website

I ahte the new leetvcode UI

also lol if you've seen a question before, whats the best way to act like you've never seen it

[hasty birch]

Pretty sure you can revert

[west egret]

Same stuff you do when it’s a new problem

Repeat the question, ask clarifying questions

[hasty birch]

Just ask questions

[west egret]

Pseudo code, code, run some simple cases

[pure mauve]

how do you revert?

interresting, maybe thats the move

[hasty birch]

Go to your profile and click the “revert to old version” button at bottom right

[tardy geode]

[dawn sequoia]

[fossil jewel]

why is this so funny

damn i remember reading diary of a wimpy kid in middle school

[lament basin]

diary of a leetcoder

[pine topaz]

ZOOWEEMAMA

[lament basin]

i think the author actually studied computer science in college

[fossil jewel]

hmm cs majors == wimps??

[dawn sequoia]

whats the difference

[lament basin]

maybe in school

but life gets better once u start getting the bag

[pastel bane]

"That being said, we’d like to keep your resume on file as our team continues to grow."

[finite stone]

anyone know if you can apply to other spacex positions if you get rejected from one? because the interviews seem to be team based

[nocturne oriole]

average new grad viewing all 3 new grad openings in past month

[fossil jewel]

false, i do not have a samsung

[dawn sequoia]

bro

WHY INBOX DRY AF

grad school admissions

and

job apps

literally anything

jobs: mainly swe, ML too but need higher degree for most positions

grad school: ML + Systems

[jovial latch]

i was a week to late to that shit

[dawn sequoia]

no didn't check out meta postings

[jovial latch]

im kinda shooting myself for not knowing earlier

barely any ml entry level postings

well fuck me

[daring gazelle]

I dont think ML even have entry level jobs ngl

[jovial latch]

although id imagine theyd have taken someone with a masters degree

with ml experience

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[daring gazelle]

because I see most people do into ML have data background

[jovial latch]

i mean im still a new grad

[daring gazelle]

so you have to get data experience

[jovial latch]

i just happen to be a new grad with a bs and ms

[daring gazelle]

data background because in ML most you do Is dataprocessing

not building models anymore

[jovial latch]

honestly im gonna find some stupid ass meta recruiter on linkedin and ask if i can get into that ai residency thing

[dawn sequoia]

are there other ai residency programs than that meta one that's too late?

for new grads

doesn't have to be faang

I'll take/apply to anything

[wheat seal]

openai takes new grads?

i could imagine yea

[daring gazelle]

hmm then what do you do? Make new models?

I dont have much knowledge of this but I read somewhere that almost all models that is needed is already made and now they are focusing on make higher quality data right?

maybe thats why things been dried lately

ngl I am thinking of getting certs to pivot to data role

it pays less but at least they are still hiring

ok thx for the info

[teal jackal]

I also think people stopped sharing links to new postings

[sonic coral]

I mean aimbots already have 100% accuracy lol

It’s making a natural looking aimbot that ai allows

Where it doesn’t hit everything always accurately but still boosts your accuracy

So like people who have maybe a 20-30% accuracy can boost their accuracy to like 60-70% and it’ll look natural

[true rune]

Does anyone have the link to the capital one name and shame shitpost website

[sonic coral]

Ugh I know exactly what you mean

But completely forgot the site lol

That shit was funny af

FOUND IT @true rune

http://desudesudesu.io

[true rune]

Omg thank you LMAO

[autumn jolt]

Is there any point in giving Expedia behavioral assessment? are they done with hiring for new grad roles?

[fossil jewel]

random, but where is your pfp from

i've seen like 6 accounts with it

[autumn jolt]

It's one of the discord's own avatar

[fossil jewel]

ohhh

[runic wind]

https://youtu.be/6F9iygUoW64

[silk ermine]

😂

Everyone who couldnt get a job gradauting in 2023 and who got rescinded can join

🚀

Really

Fock them

I'm making a search engine anyway

Will take revenge for u

[burnt carbon]

just wondering are there ppl who graduated fall and are still looking for jobs cuz rn just thinking it's just me🥲

[compact terrace]

🙋🏻‍♂️

[teal jackal]

I will be making a night core remix for it

[tardy geode]

@silk ermine brother i live this life everyday . can relate , except that i have no offers

[tardy geode]

🤣

[mint sonnet]

Does anyone know if Expedia is still hiring new grad?

[lilac flare]

all companies that do hirevue should be ostracized

talking to you GM

[teal jackal]

https://www.dodgegarage.com/horsepower-locator

WHY CANT TOYOTA AND HONDA DO THIS TOO

THE COROLLA GR IS PLAYING HARD TO GET

shit lmao the only remaining allocations left in my area are for the V6

tragic

[teal jackal]

Dell layoffs

Recession = real

the recession is real and anyone denying it is coping or trying to avoid being voted out(even if its not their fault)

[pine topaz]

Is it only dell today

[tardy geode]

its hard to stay sane

[tardy geode]

coz of that i am unable to prepare properly like doing LC and stuff

[fossil jewel]

no one can blame you fam

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-sad-crying-upset-gif-25762369

[dusty bear]

[gilded harness]

heck, graduated spring and still looking 🗿

[lament basin]

keep grinding

[rain patio]

[prime palm]

i understand this feeling

when i kept getting rejected after final rounds it was hard to prepare for upcoming ones

turbulent times for sure

[clear bear]

Has anyone ever done a Behavioral/Cognitive Predictive Index test? Not sure what to expect 💀

[gray dagger]

If that’s for canonical don’t bother doing it

[gray dagger]

It’s a perfect time to work on your startup idea

[glossy shard]

how many companies do you all apply daily?

[deep summit]

If anyone wants to join the Hive AI newgrad server DM me

[burnt carbon]

do u mind telling wat is it?

[chilly burrow]

Hive AI is a company

They're inviting people who have gotten offers or who are interviewing with the company to a server

[coarse quiver]

Me soulkks

[green pendant]

Soulkks really is goated

[covert patio]

when I interviewed with Hive AI, I got rejected at the phone screen phase, which I think is because I asked about WLB lol

[jovial latch]

well, they say interviews are two ways

but not in this market ig

[peak laurel]

How many rejections/non-responses would it take before revising your resume? I recently revised/improved it based on some feedback I got, but have applied to around 40 more jobs since then and gotten no responses / only rejections.

[gray dagger]

People be applying to 40 jobs in a day

[west egret]

That’s lacking context. How long has it been? 2 weeks? A month?

[peak laurel]

between 1-2 weeks

[west egret]

That’s not a very long time tbh.

But I wouldn’t wait to make improvements on your resume. If you see something that would make it better, you don’t need to wait. Just do it as you’re applying.

[jovial latch]

its just a constant iterative process with improving the resume

though im doubtful its actually made a significant change in terms of response rate

[peak laurel]

Fair enough, thanks for the advice

[peak laurel]

It was a pretty significant change from 2 pages to a single page, and a big rewrite in terms of responsibilities at each company

So i was hoping that would make a big change in terms of responses, but we'll see

[jovial latch]

ok well then it would make a difference LMAO

i assumed your first resume was workable

but ah yea 2 pages with bloated text aint getting any responses back

but you know when you get that single page resume its hard to make it so significantly better itll actually improve response rates

at least thats my opinion

its not like recruiters are intelligent human beings anyways

[peak laurel]

LMAO

[jovial latch]

'hmm what other keywords can i put here so recruiters dont throw my resume in the bin'

[peak laurel]

yeah, thats basically where I'm at, i'm torn between shotgun applying to every new post i see, vs. trying to jam keywords in

I'm leaning towards shotgun applying because it seems like trying to tailor my resume to each post is a waste of time

[jovial latch]

oh bro dont tailor your resume to each single post thats just

i mean i can maybe help you, dm me if you want
like you should be able to boil your most relevant experiences and skills down to one page

which you can use for every company

[peak laurel]

Sure, sounds good I'll shoot you a DM, thanks!

[prime palm]

You can drop me your resume if you want a second opinion

[timber rock]

https://us.teamblind.com/s/hxQrtu4U

this guy has 3 jobs and I can't get even 1

[tardy geode]

combined TC : 1M omfg

[timber rock]

and he finishes as 6pm every day

bro has optimised life

[grizzled bronze]

Fuck this guy

[fossil jewel]

yeah bc people on blind are 100% truthful

[west egret]

Are you insinuating that people on the internet would state lies?

[timber rock]

i take everything at face value

people don't lie cause lying is bad and mean :(

[sonic coral]

Who would do such a horrible thing

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-buster-baxter-bunny-you-really-think-someone-would-do-that-go-on-the-internet-and-tell-lies-gif-17527378

[plush lily]

Arthur lowkey top tier cartoons

[peak pike]

debating if I should go after my masters

[pure mauve]

During interview QA, when should u stop askign questions haha

Cuz i cant tell if its always good to keep asking more questions

[west egret]

I usually just ask the same 2-3 questions. Sometimes the conversation goes on to another subject and we just continue until time ends. But I think the more important thing is to just make it a casual/natural conversation.

[pure mauve]

Whats some of ur qs if you dont mind?

[west egret]

Why they like that company, advice on things to look out for when starting

[pure mauve]

ty!

[nimble cosmos]

Anyone taken epic oa and got invited for on-site? I want to know if I mightve passed

I think I passed all 4 of the programming questions, and got a cumulative 65%ish for the 3 other sections

[hidden fable]

Anyone interviewed with Barclays for Developer Analyst - Explorer Graduate Program – 2023 Superday?

[lilac flare]

did you take the online assessment?

[hidden fable]

Yes back in nov

[jovial latch]

i dont think its a bad thing to ask too many questions as long as they're relevant

cause well it makes you seem interested in the position and liek you actually give a shit

usually i ask shit like what makes this company great to work for compared to others, the kinda work and projects the interviewers do, if you'd be working with other new grads, covid policy

the first two are a pretty good indication of things

[silver hamlet]

Is anyone still waiting to hear back from Flexport after their onsite?

[fast nexus]

I think most people are

[silver hamlet]

I had mine on 31st

[fast nexus]

@silver hamlet check dm

[gray dagger]

I had mine on the same day

[cyan cosmos]

rejecttions for what? their ai residency program?

i see

nope but I was planing on

do you need ai/ml previous experience/knowledge?

yes that's what I was asking

best of luck!

[pure mauve]

damn bar these days for a phone tech is like any hint or follow up missed == insta rej

[livid yew]

I ask for hints to make sure the interviewer is paying attention lol

[normal palm]

mf WHAT

[ivory stratus]

also L5 though lol

that's freaking wild

[smoky star]

I have terrible experience with applying this time

Almost like 0 response

How did you guys find interviews?

[viscid jacinth]

Anyone take Citadel OA? Should I expect easy, medium or God mode difficulty?

[teal jackal]

this year sucks

bar is sky high

[outer radish]

sign me up ASAP

[daring gazelle]

You tell me buddy

[teal jackal]

HOLY SHIT WHAT A REVELATION

[daring gazelle]

At this point probably easier to find a soul mate than a new grad job

[teal jackal]

GUESS ILL JUST NEVER MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY MY MANUAL TRANS HOT HATCH

probably easier to order a new Corolla GR than get a new grad job

[outer radish]

cap they're definitely all spoken for in NA

they only sent over like 3200 or something lmao i swear

[teal jackal]

both are impossibru lol

Corolla Gr is playing hard to get tbh

absurd

[outer radish]

naw its a bellwhistle

signifying how "sporty" toyota is, but without any intent to sell it to their customers

teasing me to drop 50k on a TRD pack toyota camry with 180 hp

all I want is someone to make a X3 M but cheaper

[teal jackal]

Consider the mazda CX90

[outer radish]

looks hella sexi

but I aint planning on having kids till i hit 35

[teal jackal]

mazda knows that any attempt to make a longitudnal inline 6 sedan will end the same way the kia stinger and genesis g70 ended(barely any sales)

so they tried to make a fun and meaningful SUV instead

[outer radish]

yeah I think they'd be able to pull a decent amount from that market

here's hoping they slap that sexy ass engine in a cx-5 or cx-60

scooping that immediately for the boys trip to the ski hills

[teal jackal]

sadly the cx60 isnt coming here

[outer radish]

naw r u srs

pls

[teal jackal]

yeah tragic

[teal jackal]

the halo car effect

[smoky star]

What should I do if I can't find a job and is an international student? lol

I am already finishing my master degree

So can't do that trick again to extend my stay, no intention to do PhD at all

[whole berry]

yo guys

hows the leetcode's interview crash course "DSA" in terms of prep wise?

better than neetcodes ?

i was thinking of buying it since its 89.99 but so is hogwarts legacy

[lament summit]

Research

Or might have to consider going home

[pine topaz]

hogwarrts legacy looks so good

hopefully its on par with rdr2 and witcher3 😳

[whole berry]

ya lol

it is really good

but i cant buy both that and DSA course

[fossil jewel]

oh

it came out

i need me a gaming pc

[whole berry]

i guess im buying leetcode premium

no hogwarts for me

[fossil jewel]

[whole zinc]

did akuna rescind new grad?

the discord server is suddenly not there

[gilded harness]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/10vjcp2/akuna_capital_intern_offers_rescinded/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

oh that’s interns mb

[whole zinc]

pretty sure gonna get an email tomorrow

[ivory stratus]

YOOOO PRELOAD FOR HOGWARTS LEGACY ON STEAM

[lone rapids]

I hope you have other offers

[whole zinc]

i did but rejected them months ago. wasn’t really expecting this to happen.

not sure what to do now 😔

[nova reef]

you can ask your profs/faculty if they have research assistant positions (doesnt matter if it's paid or not as long as it's full-time) so you could at least stay in the states under OPT

[lone rapids]

You are not rescinded for new grad yet

There is still hope

[whole zinc]

nah i read several places they’re rescinding all offers

[timber rock]

job please

[lament summit]

gib job

[tardy geode]

gib job

[lilac flare]

is it bad to lie about having a coexisting offer to expedite the hiring process (after final interview)?

[late kestrel]

ive seen it happen where they go "oh ok, well just take that one because we wont get back to you in time" and then just reject you

[plush lily]

Really? Is that a thing

[lament basin]

one of my recruiters told me to take another offer and rescind it if they get back to me with an offer lmfao

[timber rock]

why would u do that after the final am i not understanding something

[lilac flare]

to force them to make a decision quicker before all the positions fill up

[smoky star]

At this rate, I might have to do PhD

Won't be able to get a job, lmao

[prime palm]

Akuna?

All new grad jobs?

[prime palm]

LMFAO

[whole zinc]

Matata

[prime palm]

let's fucking gooooo

[lone rapids]

So all good then?

[lament basin]

tt

[whole zinc]

yep

[lone rapids]

Nice

[night marsh]

Anyone do Epic New Grad? If so, did you have to fill out a Rembrandt profile?

[tardy geode]

am i bad at leetcode or am i bad at python(or don't know it fully) FML

i couldn't solve 2 easy questions had to look at the solns

[pure mauve]

lmfao they really want you to join

But its also a good idea to negotiate, but idk if any of them would rescind

[tardy geode]

i have watched countless "python for beginners" vids and i still suck , its very demotivating

😭

[fossil jewel]

lowkey i dont think python is the main language learned in any ug

like most schools its the statically typed C langs

[jovial latch]

Probably depends on the uni
For us the mandatory intro to cs course was in python, then they went to data structures in java, algorithms in c++, systems in c

But each concept or course was taught in a different language

Idk how other unis do it

[fossil jewel]

lowkey confuse

[jovial latch]

Eh not really, it was just different each semester

[fossil jewel]

like isnt the methodology that you get pretty good at one lang

understand the general paradigms, then learning other langs is good enough

[jovial latch]

Certain concepts work best with certain languages
Basic coding concepts like recursion, functional or iterative programming work with python as an intro course

Data structures works pretty well in java imo

Algorithms was good in c++, it could have been done in java but it was nice to learn the nuances of c++

And naturally systems works in c

[timber rock]

Most classes are in python at my uni

But the first languages we were taught are haskell and java

[jovial latch]

Yea that's kinda problematic lol
I mean fuck I've never interviewed with companies that were primarily interested in python

Always some other shit, god damn fuckin low level c++ shit

But also like, having all your knowledge based off of python syntax can kinda screw you up in the future

Once you get the syntax of a few different languages down it's easy to switch between

But not if your entire frame of reference is around python, arguablh the most different

[fossil jewel]

thats wild

my intro courses were c++

algo was more math, 0 code

[tardy geode]

i am doing this python for begineers course by this dude called codewithharry

[fossil jewel]

then i had a software design course in java, made android app at the end

[tardy geode]

just to brush up on python

[fossil jewel]

python was so weird at the start ngl

indentation error

[timber rock]

We've only used python, java, haskell and solidity at my uni lmao

And mips

[tardy geode]

i am revising it , did like 20 LC quests in the morning.

[timber rock]

Never c++ or js or anything outside of personal things

Tbh I think python is the best for learning cs theory which is what most of the classes which use python were anyway

Except like C for systems or whayever

[fossil jewel]

i stand corrected then

[lilac flare]

do you have a github for just new grad roles?

anyone have a github for new grad roles?

[jovial latch]

Only things I don't know at this point are mobile, n the fuckin shit like go n haskall

[fossil jewel]

yeah python is pretty nice, there's this site https://pythontutor.com/

@tardy geode

[jovial latch]

Idk how much that's hurting me

[fossil jewel]

you can visualize the code

[lilac flare]

if you know how to code in C, python should be a piece of cake

[fossil jewel]

no pointers or this weird shit

template <typename T> T

[lilac flare]

vectors are the worst

python list can do so many different things

[west egret]

I use mainly Java at my school. Python is used in some electives but I haven't taken any of those. My only use for Python is basically leetcode.

C and C++ for certain classes as well though.

[timber rock]

oh yeah i forgot i had to do C for 1 class as well

[fossil jewel]

yeah python was just for ML and big data

my other elective i used c++ and c, and qt

[jovial latch]

I do wish more courses made me do shit in c/c++

It was just that one course

And given my ml/data preferences my mind kinda circled back to operating in python

[timber rock]

yea i only did c in my computer systems class

would have done it in os but i dropped that lmao

[teal jackal]

I don't take any python class

[jovial latch]

Oh I got words to say on os at my uni

[teal jackal]

I just picked it up randomly

tbh

[jovial latch]

It's handles so bad they keep rotating in different professors

[timber rock]

Hah

[jovial latch]

Assignments are whatever, weird kernel shit inside a vm using c

[fossil jewel]

i heard people use scala for data stuff

[timber rock]

They released the project descriptions 1 week into the class, I opened the doc and it was 40 pages long, deleted it and dropped the class like the next day

[teal jackal]

My systems prof at my uni was ass

Dude didn't know how to teach people who weren't already linux bros

[fossil jewel]

my first intro class we used linux

arch btw

[jovial latch]

I survived it, but the new prof has this requirement for os, rip them LMAO

[teal jackal]

And was super closed minded to the idea of gearing the class towards people who weren't already linuxbros

[timber rock]

I switched os for compilers which is way more interesting

[teal jackal]

the homeworks were kinda out of scope(design a memory allocator which beats the system allocator)

and the lectures were a hot mess

[fossil jewel]

prof did set up the image and stuff

[jovial latch]

Who the fuck requires 120 gb for a single class LMAO

[west egret]

120 gb of space for a class lol

[fossil jewel]

but it was barebones asf

[teal jackal]

120gb is wild bruh

[fossil jewel]

u dont need 30 gigs even

linux barely has bloat

[jovial latch]

Ya it's insane, mind you using Linux inside a vm

[timber rock]

My systems projects were like make text scanner in mips or some shit lol

[west egret]

120 gb is relatively cheap in terms of stroage

[jovial latch]

I don't get it

[fossil jewel]

and you can put everything on gh

which is what i did

[west egret]

but crazy to expect students to dedicate that much space to it

[jovial latch]

For reference, this has been my drive for the last 5 years

[west egret]

laptop?

[jovial latch]

Ya I've been running an old crappy dell XPS

Ah, back when I didn't know shit about computer hardware

2017 was a different time

Fuck dell

Asus n Lenovo are usually pretty solid

[tardy geode]

aye thanks ❤️

[teal jackal]

XPS isnt so bad

actually it is kinda dookie

the OLD days when the XPS was a brick

now THOSE are solid

the modern day ultrabook XPS laptops are turds

they all blow up eventually

Ultrabooks are ass, I prefer bulky and clunky laptops

a thick thinkpad is like a Toyota Hilux

an ultrabook is more like an Audi

[chilly burrow]

I prefer Ultrabooks r nice cuz they're more portable

also typically the best battery life is on ultrabooks

[jovial latch]

Eh, mine is the 2017 XPS 15 model

Back then then the XPS models were not cooled properly so they thermally throttle when you use the discrete GPU

Dell also has horrible quality control and is inconsistent

I don't particularly like dell bloat ware either

Never had an issue with Lenovo and from what I can gather asus is awesome

[teal jackal]

Asus is above average

Laptop QC is notoriously unpredictable

Tbh even Intel based Macs are unpredictable, but I'll say Dell and hp are the brands most likely to produce turds

Samsung laptops are really good IMO

Next time I get an ultra book style laptop it'll be a Samsung

The 2 in 1

[jovial latch]

Lenovo is reliable
Never had an Asus myself but they seem to actually listen to consumer feedback

Dell also ruined Alienware lmao

[teal jackal]

Alienware

[errant karma]

wow this was me until recently

Intern money changed my life

[jovial latch]

Eh I've got a buncha intern b money too, I've just never had the need to get more storage lol

[errant karma]

That makes sense

[jovial latch]

i did consider building a pc over the last few years but the markets in a rough spot, and it would make my laptop redundant since i just do everything on that

i bought a ps5 instead and i dont regret it, especially with those god damn gpu prices lol

and honestly lets be real pc component prices kinda have gone insane

[late kestrel]

@weak latch visa reject

[weak latch]

LMFAOOO I was about to dm you

How long did that take

Like 4 months of ghosting??

[tardy geode]

My linkedin is filled with zoom layoffs

prayge ain't working

@pine topaz

[late kestrel]

"Our team will reach out with next steps soon" on 9/29

[lilac flare]

just get the new macbook pro

best in class ultra book

[hasty birch]

Same

[ivory stratus]

my M1 16" is fire

the battery life is so good

[civic magnet]

holy fuck i live a city down from veritas tech

[teal jackal]

i got the 14 inch m1 pro from amazon

it was a good laptop

[pine topaz]

ITS OKAY, ZOOM WILL BE THE ONLY LAYOFFS THIS WEEK

[outer radish]

thinking bout getting this

but what're everyone's thoughts on the m1 max wit 64 gb and 2 tb space

might run a side hustle with that after work

[teal jackal]

are you gonna be committed to the side hustle?

[ivory stratus]

yeah i got the M1 pro, just upgraded to 1TB

[teal jackal]

64gb is overkill

for regular users

id understand 32gb for futureproofing

anyways imo i dont think you need that fancy of a laptop unless you genuinely really need it for whatever side hustle you do

[ivory stratus]

if i was spending that kind of money i would personally rather build a pc with same specs but less money

[tardy geode]

prayge ain't working fam

[ivory stratus]

the amount of money apple charges for RAM/storage upgrade is insane

[outer radish]

yeah tbh i was thinking that I could run a server on the mb if i really needed too

then i realized AWS exists

[teal jackal]

LOL but having more memory is good for testing on a local machine

[outer radish]

idk refurbished 4k $ not too bad in the grand scheme of things

[teal jackal]

your call

idt a fully loaded macbook is worth it for devs

[outer radish]

aii thats all the ammo i need then fugg it

[teal jackal]

tbh

[outer radish]

idk i mean im on my laptop literally all hours of the day

[teal jackal]

but that doesnt necessarily mean you need an overkill one

[outer radish]

my current 2016 mbp has lasted this long and is still running fairly welll

ngl im just tryna justify this purchase

[pine topaz]

MASSHAALLAHH

[teal jackal]

I feel like spending more than $2500 on a laptop leads to diminishing returns

[pine topaz]

were u impacted

https://tenor.com/view/hug-hasbulla-m4kktruck-gif-24342356

[gray dagger]

Why not have both

[pine topaz]

no thats @pulsar mural

[ivory stratus]

i do have both

but not those specs hahahahha

[gray dagger]

Same

Mac for programming and windows for gaming

[ivory stratus]

i just have a 5600x with a 3070

16 gb 3600mhz ram

[gray dagger]

That’s still an overkill 💀

[ivory stratus]

running on an LG C2 42"

[gray dagger]

What are you talking about

[ivory stratus]

not really

i mean for programming yeah absolutely

but not for gaming

[gray dagger]

I’m rocking a measly 5 year old 1700 and rx6600xt

[ivory stratus]

i just built mine

[gray dagger]

Programming on Mac >>>>

[ivory stratus]

my first pc i built was

an i5 5600 i think and then a GTX 1060

[gray dagger]

Well the only game I play is valorant so it doesn’t even need good specs

[ivory stratus]

im playing WoW and some xbox games

[gray dagger]

Bet it can run on a 20 year old toaster

[ivory stratus]

like halo and stuff

now hogwarts legacy

and cyberpunk

[teal jackal]

Those specs are good, they'll last 5 years at least

[ivory stratus]

it can do 4k super well actually

[gray dagger]

I’m not gonna drop $80 on a stupid game I’m probably gonna play for an hour lol

[ivory stratus]

getting 60fps+ for pretty much all my games

lol im gonna get so much money out of it

i get my moneys worth out of WoW too

[gray dagger]

You stream?

[ivory stratus]

im thinking about it

just gotta get a webcam for my pc