#2023_grads

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teal jackal
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yakhuna found love

fossil jewel
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nice

green pendant
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sometimes I wonder, 2024 ng listings will probably be on the more conservative side since companies don't want to risk overhiring again. Plus all of 2024 grads plus many unemployed/underemployed 2023 grads will apply for them too. when tf is the industry gonna get back up on its feet lol

rain patio
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never

teal jackal
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hiring like crazy

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will it ever come back

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just last year every company was giving away offers

fossil jewel
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bc they had tunnel vision and thought growth was permanent

lyric cosmos
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Anyone had experience with interviewing for Software Engineer I at Mastercard Launch program?

jovial latch
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oh theres hte fuckin automated GM rejection

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what the fuck i aced the tech assessment

green pendant
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Would y'all rather do nothing for 6 months/graduate late, or work as a swe on outdated tech at some random no name company?

jovial latch
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you're asking a choice between nothing and not nothing

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doing something is always going to be better than nothing

green pendant
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What about graduating late though? Especially if you get to take a good class and maybe a project or two

jovial latch
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that wouldnt impact your job searching or make you stand out more

rain patio
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id rather take the job

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you have the opportunity to be employed in this market

jovial latch
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classes mean so fucking little and i kinda hate that i put in the effort to get a masters degree while all my friends with bachelors were able to get full time offers from their internships

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while i couldnt cause of a whole deal of bad luck

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college classes do absolutely nothing

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all anyone cares about is work experience

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no one 'but actually' me im exaggerating to make a point

rain patio
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if you wanna learn stuff you can also do it after work

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i found there's a lot more free time working FT than studying 24/7 during uni

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i kind of got the strat pre layoffs

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do an extra internship and delay grad for potentially better prospects
but if you have something lined up rn and don't take it, how do you know it'll look any better later? and you won't have that safety net then

jovial latch
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ive been thinking of applying to internships out of sheer desperation

rain patio
jovial latch
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πŸ™ƒ

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yea fuck me

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my college is doing a career fair but bets are lotta these damn companies are just here to advertise

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especially since its virtual

rain patio
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virtual fairs suck fr

jovial latch
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logistics are better this way
in person fair last fall, big ass line, waited 1-2 hours outside, got in, spent 4-5 hours inside waiting in more lines, talked to ~10 compaines, sent resumes, emailed recruiters, heard from no one

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virtual i can sit there and be content with the fact that im not standing in a line for hours and that nothing will come of it

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on a completely unrelated note my annoyance for international grad students increased after that in person career fair

rain patio
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why

jovial latch
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90% of the people there were grad students and honestly it just really bothered me

rain patio
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cant relate

jovial latch
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i couldnt tell ya why to be honest

rain patio
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i have my own biases but don't want to be political

jovial latch
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but here the international grad students will cheat and are usually pretty dumb and just care bout doign whatever to get the passing grade

jovial latch
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they'll literally copy shit from chat gpt and not change it so you end up with shit like this

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granted, only my experience

rain patio
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bit of a blanket statement imo

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i have mad respect for some of them

jovial latch
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obviously theres decent ones

rain patio
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and what you said i feel like can be said for so many undergrad students

jovial latch
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i dont they're entirely at fault though, lot of the grad cs courses here have no prereqs which i suspect is intentional

rain patio
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its not rly an international vs noninternational thing

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everyone just tries to game the system

peak ferry
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^^ my 2c is that there are some differences of this nature, but also kekw domestic students are plenty dumb/academically dishonest

jovial latch
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lotta dumb people in general i guess

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but then they end up with jobs and i didnt so what does that say about me lol

rain patio
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i dont think people are dumb

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its just society has failed us all

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everyone thinks they're gonna be the next ninja or pokimane

peak ferry
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charisma ❌
aesthetics ❌
gaming skills ❌
can type funny symbols kinda ok βœ…

rain patio
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or maybe im diffy hopium

jovial latch
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then you have people who apply themselves way too hard doing hackathons n nonstop cs stuff

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those kinda people always annoyed me a bit

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cause thats the kinda people comapnies want

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peak ferry
jovial latch
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you know what annoyed is too light a word i hate em

raw echo
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😐 if ppl like doing cs why hate on them lol

jovial latch
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yea you can like something, thats fine, but dont go doing something non stop all the fuckin time cause then the implication is if you arent doing that shit and god forbid you have a work life balance, that looks worse to companies

rain patio
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back then i think people were more realistic

jovial latch
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that and i dont get how people enjoy those hackathons that last all day

raw echo
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that seems misdirected, it seems like companies r the true problem not the people who just enjoy doing cs stuff ?

rain patio
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or w/e idk maybe they just had to be a certain way to adapt to tough times

jovial latch
jovial latch
raw echo
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i used to like doing hackathos when I was younger, its fun when you get to visit a new city and build some cool stuff imo

jovial latch
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believe i like cs, i got a masters in ML but i just never cared to do any extra shit outside or work or uni

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just actively did not want to

rain patio
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kids do πŸ’€ but also culture as in all the FOMO in social media

raw echo
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meh i think the problem is more of companies making it a zero-sum game and a shitty new grad cycle than people who enjoy cs

jovial latch
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I kinda touched on this before, but companies promote hackathons and other events to get people interested in coding, cause they want a bigger labor pool I think

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They wanna force it a bit

chilly burrow
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chilly burrow
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They're spirit hasn't been crushed by reality

rain patio
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hardship builds good engineers

peak ferry
chilly burrow
chilly burrow
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Even if u r a racoon

peak ferry
rain patio
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you can get a short workout in during build dogesmile

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thats weird

peak ferry
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gcc doesn't play nice with my very complicated templates

rain patio
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thats new to me damn

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wonder what the difference is

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oh yeah the gcc vs clang w templates is what i meant

peak ferry
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yea didn't look into it too indepth, I'm sure we are doing something funny

jovial latch
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probably fake, but about the norm for linkedin these days

slender niche
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anyone attempted the assessment for United Airlines Junior Java Role?

slender niche
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I dont have that. Applied while ago

rain patio
wicked musk
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for the leetcode is frequency list filter accurate?

teal jackal
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Good morning fellas

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And FUCK JAY POWELL

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Inflation hawks will ruin the economy

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Jay Powell's strategy of intentionally trying to tank the economy to curb inflation is going horribly wrong

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I don't give a shit about Democrat vs Republican I just want Jay Powell out of the fed chair position

tardy geode
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my flatmate's amazon offer isn't delayed , that's one lucky person.

mental sable
tardy geode
tardy geode
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@nocturne oriole

smoky star
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Friends

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Would February a better month for job hunting than January?

teal jackal
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No idea

analog compass
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Where are you guys finding new grad job postings

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Ive been using linkedin but a lot of the entry level or new grad roles are requiring too much experience

green pendant
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linkedin itself and yeah I agree postings seem to be scarce

dawn sequoia
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gm

coarse quiver
green pendant
# rain patio id rather take the job

okay let me rephrase the question, since you are considered eligible for most ng roles upto a year after graduation, would an ng job poster prefer an actual ng over someone who graduated 6 months ago + has 6 months of work exp at shitty organization

green pendant
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the actual number is 100.000% @coarse quiver

rain patio
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bcz i dont think the first part of your statement is true

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a lot of them are strict on your grad date afaik

green pendant
green pendant
rain patio
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that things will get better so soon

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if you're bullish on next year being like last year with massive hiring then yeah just delay

green pendant
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fairs. lets assume that it doesn't get better then. 2 years of no name shitty outdated tech experience vs 1 year of the same (assuming you delayed graduation by a year but joined the same company)

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in 2 years when both of you are looking for a job, who is hurt more

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(assuming things getting better in 2 years)

rain patio
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the 1 year ??

tardy geode
rain patio
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people with ~1 YOE are kind of in a place where

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theyre not really new grads

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but theyre also not midlevel

green pendant
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yeah but midlevel with shitty tech stack kinda sucks no?

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you are stuck with that stack a little

rain patio
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no i mean there's going to be openings you can apply for

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at 2 YOE

green pendant
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most mid level openings specifically ask for more modern stacks as far as I have seen

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lets say you work with PhP or Ruby on Rails or something

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and at 2 years you gain some experience with it too

rain patio
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well what you wrote was assuming you ended up at the same company

rain patio
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but id also like to be able to pay the bills

teal jackal
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is getting pigeonholed with a bad tech stack a thing?

rain patio
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and buy stocks when they crash

green pendant
green pendant
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I did it the last time their stocks fell lol

timber rock
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skills are usually transferable and a lot of big companies are language and tech-agnostic

rain patio
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^ i was reluctant to answer this bcz i think it depends on what companies you're aiming for

timber rock
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yeah, smaller companies are more likely to require a specific stack

rain patio
smoky star
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Q2 2024 would be better than now

green pendant
timber rock
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still holding on to hope for the Amazon unfreeze πŸ₯²

green pendant
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I was assuming that even amazon for eg would have a swe 2 listing with "2 or more years of Java" or something like that listed

green pendant
timber rock
rain patio
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im not a recruiter but i lowkey dont think they care

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even if it says java/ruby/c++

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just put one of them as a language skill

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i assume you use one of them to LC anyways

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how are they going to fact check you

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just my 2c though, do whatever keeps you off the streets

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who knows? maybe if you accept the offer now and keep interviewing, you might get a better job offer before you graduate and you can renege this one

green pendant
compact vortex
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just got this email

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where does the hackerrank test go to

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i cant find it

teal jackal
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youll get another email bro

compact vortex
teal jackal
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probably

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i forgor

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but i did get the email eventually

compact vortex
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i didnt get it

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imma email that campus email and let m know

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its an easy test right?

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cuz its like 25 minutes

teal jackal
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yeah its trivia

compact vortex
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kk thats chill

green pendant
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does chewy sponsor?

compact vortex
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idk

green pendant
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Okay I don't think they do

sharp plume
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If two really good companies schedule an interview at the same time, and the recruiter for one of them doesn’t respond when you email her to change but the interviews are today what do you do

hot hatch
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take both interviews at the same time

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and make them fight over you

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(but also, just contact the other one?)

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weird that a company would schedule a interview without you confirming...?

sharp plume
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Should I assume that the company that is not responding to my rescheduling request is gonna still have the interview at the same time?

timber rock
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Go to the one that you didn't email

livid yew
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I'd check the spam folder

dusky ledge
fossil jewel
vague furnace
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anyone interview with Bloomberg recently? Have a phone technical tomorrow. wondering what the difficulty will be.

dusky cloak
compact vortex
marsh sand
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Peeps who got offered (or rejected) from Palantir after HM, how long did it take you to hear back?

lilac flare
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How can I improve on final interviews. I've been in 2 and it's really hurting my confidence

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After getting rejected to both

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I thought I did well but it doesn't seem like I am

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And these companies won't give me feedback to improve

vague furnace
lilac flare
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and i have no idea how to prepare for them

fast nexus
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did anyone also get a 2K OA?

vague furnace
# lilac flare no, but each company asks different questions

I understand that part. Ive had lots of iOS experience, so as a new grad, that means I have double the amount to study. I am prepping full time everyday, half of my day is LC and the other half is iOS OOP + building something from scratch

lilac flare
vague furnace
abstract storm
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Has anyone interviewed with Appian for their Solution Engineer position?

ivory stratus
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does anyone know if chewy is open to remote?

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for anyone that's taken an offer

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also, should i add my Hawaiian Airlines internship that I haven't started yet on my resume? i start in like. two weeks

west egret
ivory stratus
west egret
ivory stratus
west egret
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I think I just left mine blank though tbh lol. Not like it will have any negative effects. It just lets ppl know that you were able to land an internship.

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And you'll have more experience by w/e date your internship ends.

west egret
ivory stratus
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sweet thanks

fossil jewel
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damn i never did the incoming stuff

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when i asked people they said it sounds dumb since incoming can end up being cancelled

green pendant
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like if you actually did something you can list impact + skills and they'll ask you questions on that but what do you even ask someone who has an incoming intern on their resume

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unless you specifically want to give them logistics info like you will be unavailable to start during those dates

rain patio
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i only added incoming if it was massive clout boost or relevant to the role im applying for

ivory stratus
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so i can understand something that starts super soon vs something that starts way later

rain patio
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cant you also just wait 3 weeks

ivory stratus
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and chewy says they require an internship

rain patio
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oh fair

ivory stratus
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i mean im banking on having this hawaiian airlines job turn into full time since theres this program through my school where that's the goal

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it's basically like you are in this program, match with local companies, and you're an intern with the goal of converting to full time

rain patio
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isnt that

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always the goal πŸ’€

ivory stratus
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i mean not always sadly lol

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rip meta

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yeah it is lol

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i think their HQ is in Phoenix though but i could be wrong

rain patio
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are they going to help you with hawaii?

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housing****

ivory stratus
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i live here

rain patio
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ah

ivory stratus
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but i think they pay $25 an hour

rain patio
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hawaiis so cool, thinking of traveling there one day

ivory stratus
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oh i guess the hq is here

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it's so worth it

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such a cool place

fossil jewel
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do you get discounted flights πŸ‘€

ivory stratus
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yeah oahu

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hawaiian

ivory stratus
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and buddy passes

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so my gf, my best friend and I are going to Japan after grad

fossil jewel
ivory stratus
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the pay isn't great but im just happy to have something and be working in a smaller company first

fossil jewel
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its gonna open up more doors

ivory stratus
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i've heard really good stuff about HA too

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so im really excited

rain patio
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i only know MA

green oyster
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Hey, anyone here interviewed with palantir for sde role?

ivory stratus
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wut

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how many questions?

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maybe it's just mc then or just an easy q

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has anyone applied for jobot and done the instant interview?

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oh yeah no lol

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def doesn't sound legit

azure zephyr
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just got approved for graduation this may

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feels good

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summa cum laude too 😫 i was a tryhard all four years and all i get is a honor cord hahahaha

fossil jewel
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W

ivory stratus
azure zephyr
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i don't feel like school prepared me for industry at all its a scam

fossil jewel
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i dont think it prepared anyone

ivory stratus
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our college is basically just focused toward academia and not setting people up for industry so yeah

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they're trying to move to college of engineering so that they actually care about people having jobs afterwards

dusky ledge
teal jackal
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damn jake your pfp no longer doxxes you

ivory stratus
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had to

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anybody in here blind and need some healing

teal jackal
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I feel like school helped me figure out what tf I'm doing as a developer

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but past a certain point school started going down the useless route

fast nexus
west egret
sonic coral
ivory stratus
azure zephyr
fossil jewel
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it took so long for me

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i got it a week or two after grades got posted

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the awarded degree

prime palm
fossil jewel
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Cum Laude lmao

prime palm
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cum loud

fossil jewel
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the bar is low at my school, you just need 3.2+

prime palm
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LOL

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that emote

fossil jewel
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3.5 is summa cum laude

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then 3.8 is magma

rain patio
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just call it a participation award

fossil jewel
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or i have it backwards

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my school has some brutal classes tho

rain patio
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summa is highest

fossil jewel
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yeah backwards

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magma is 3.5
summa 3.8

west egret
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πŸ’€

ivory stratus
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bro everyone laying off

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im just hoping this means more opportunities next year or the year after

fossil jewel
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paypall laying too

rain patio
west egret
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My mentor actually went to Asana not too long ago…

fossil jewel
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eh

west egret
fossil jewel
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we

west egret
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I now know too

fossil jewel
west egret
rain patio
fossil jewel
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my credit number is 1-888-Loser

rain patio
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but real talk your school has some weird ass reqs for honors lol

west egret
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my phone number is 1-800-PRANKED

fossil jewel
rain patio
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nyu is the other weird one

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when 3.9 isn't necessarily summa cum laude

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might as well just give up

fossil jewel
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at least my tuition was free damn

rain patio
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nice

fossil jewel
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that’s my cope for being rejected from nyu and wl for stony

ivory stratus
rain patio
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im using a lot of my fy pay to get rid of my debt

sonic coral
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fossil jewel
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no one in my hs got into nyu or stony

west egret
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I got WL for chatGPT

fossil jewel
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ghetto ass hs

rain patio
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getting into nyu was a joke at my school

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its like the equivalent of cash cow for MS at columbia

fossil jewel
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yeah my hs was liberal arts focused

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stem was weak

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pro: i’m good at writing and public speaking kinda

rain patio
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liberal arts hs craughing

rain patio
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WRITING?

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LMAOOOO

ivory stratus
fossil jewel
west egret
fossil jewel
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y’all best believe i did this on purpose

rain patio
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honestly though good on you for not getting into NYU

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it only makes sense if you're broke broke

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otherwise massssssssive debt

nocturne oriole
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Ugliest nyu cs major still better than most handsome west coaster

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I take that back

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Most handsome berkeley

rain patio
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unrelated but kirb did you go to NYU?

nocturne oriole
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Specifically berkeley

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Nah i didnt but i like their logo

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Very clean

rain patio
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chad + sweaty i mean

jovial latch
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has anyone heard back from l3harris?

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trying to see if they got back to everyone at once and i got fucked ghosted or if it some people ahvent heard back

late kestrel
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i know someone who got an offer but that was november

jovial latch
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they did a buncha interviews/hiring in janurary so thats what im focused on

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interviewed with em week ago, told me they get back releatively quick

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saw someone got an l3harris offer in the process channel, my anxiety has skyrocketed

ivory stratus
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it's only been a week, i'd give it another week before you reach out

jovial latch
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nah i already did ask bitch ass hr when id expect to hear back, theres never any issues with overcommunicating

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especially when recruiters will fucking ghost you

fossil jewel
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imma guess a SUNY

jovial latch
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honestly im probably going to be extremely neurotic and anxious until i hear back from l3harris now

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just how its gonna be

rain patio
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i went private

sonic coral
green pendant
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turns out I was right😢

jovial latch
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nice, though imo oop aint all that hard tbh

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i mean how much can they really go into on oop

sonic coral
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CCNY?

fossil jewel
rain patio
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ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRESTIGE

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ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARN

jovial latch
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who the fuck cares what college you went to

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god damn

rain patio
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ITS NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARNED

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ITS ABOUT THE FRIENDS YOU MADE ALONG THE WAY

fossil jewel
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eh sure

rain patio
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obv tons of people care

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otherwise how can cornell convince you to cough up 80k a year

jovial latch
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facts

dusty mauve
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after first job it don't matter

jovial latch
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my damn college president gets paid 800k a year

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as if they need more tuition

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mind you they also gave him an 800k sign on bonus

rain patio
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lot of schools charge that nowadays

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sadly

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must be the egg prices

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publics only good if you live in state

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out of state its still kinda scuffed

jovial latch
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and even then it can still be a bit of money

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cause loan companies and colleges cooperate to fuck over students

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you charge more tuition, people take out more loans, loan companies make interest money, colleges make more money

outer radish
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ngl coming from a canadian ya'll pay crazy amounts to go to school

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like its wild how much debt ya'll are saddled with at like 21

jovial latch
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i mean we can do the whole 'america is crap' bit

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pretty much the least developed nation out of all the developed nations

outer radish
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naw dont get me wrong if I had the chance to go to berk or MIT or an american top school I would

rain patio
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like quant quant or core dev swe

ivory stratus
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Idk what the actual date was but you get the gist

jovial latch
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its astonishing

rain patio
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well

rain patio
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you can always go elsewhere

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whats stopping you

jovial latch
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the reality is, im fiancially stable enough to not feel a need to uproot my whole life and go to another country, but like, yea shit requires money to move to another country anyways

ivory stratus
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Ill take taxes over being debt ridden any day

coarse quiver
rain patio
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if you can afford it, why not move somewhere else?

jovial latch
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i can also appreciate things about america too ya know

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there are good things

rain patio
ivory stratus
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Its funny cause the US is so individualized that they dont give two shits about anyone else

fossil jewel
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that’s a nice part

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freedom of self i guess

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otherwise there was a selfishness with covid

jovial latch
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i mean id sum it up as, america is nice if you can afford it

rain patio
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gotcha, yea scs and mit are p busted

jovial latch
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the moment you enter any sort of fianicial unstability all the problems come rearing towrads you

outer radish
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america the land of the place that'll pay me 200+ k for typing

coarse quiver
rain patio
jovial latch
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america is also interesting in that its not so much america as it is 50 entirely different states

rain patio
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on what they meant by quant

fossil jewel
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each state is a personality fr

coarse quiver
jovial latch
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so you end up with pretty chill places and pretty fucked places, and a pretty fucked national govt

outer radish
rain patio
fossil jewel
rain patio
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im just too dumb to do QR

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monke trading systems

outer radish
coarse quiver
rain patio
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i did well in my ml courses

jovial latch
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ah ml

rain patio
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just never fell in love with it

jovial latch
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its gonna be my fuckin career at some point

fossil jewel
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i like data engineering and big data stuff

jovial latch
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i mastered in that shit

fossil jewel
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backend is also cool

fossil jewel
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distributed might be my final goal but i’ll have to read more into it

jovial latch
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im chill with just bout anything except QA and pure front end crap

fossil jewel
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nah

outer radish
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on some real shit how the fuck do u pass tiktok oa's and interviews

fossil jewel
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i do have books

rain patio
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that shit was so hard for me to process

fossil jewel
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and a site shared by someone that’s really good

rain patio
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read the papers on paxos, raft etc

coarse quiver
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Backend in trading is usually bad. Poor code quality. Spaghetti code sadge. Unless it's specialized like hft

rain patio
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dynamodb

outer radish
rain patio
fossil jewel
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i didn’t open the tik tok oa

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they sent it twice

rain patio
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i passed it back then

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im a 2022 grad kek

outer radish
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it wasnt like crazy bad, but the third one just rekt me

fossil jewel
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didn’t wanna bother with big interviews

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my LC isn’t up to par yet

west egret
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I think I got 2/3 on Tiktok OA but mostly because I saw one of the questions before

rain patio
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@fossil jewel are you '22?

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or '23?

fossil jewel
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but my last semester was dec 22

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so im kinda both

rain patio
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ok so '23 but started working i guess

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nice

fossil jewel
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i just put fall 22' in general

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yeah i work in a couple of weeks

west egret
fossil jewel
#

yesss

fossil jewel
#

if you find something in brooklyn along the N line you'd be within a good commuting distance + by some good food

sonic coral
sonic coral
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Each borough, Long Island, upstate lmao

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Nah the chads are the dudes commuting from PA and CT lmao

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I can imagine

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Drive or train

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Ah yeah a solid 2+ hours lol

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I know kids who took the lirr to stony from queens, imagine taking a 1-1.5hr commute for college every day you have class

jovial latch
#

it really aint so bad being across the river

sonic coral
#

Us tristaters are just used to long commutes lol

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Transplants won’t ever get it

rain patio
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6am gang

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will run to catch bus

sonic coral
#

My commute back from hs ranged from 30min to 1.5hr in horrible traffic

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I remember when we were stuck on the verazzano on the way to school because there was a jumper

rain patio
#

whats a jumper

sonic coral
#

People started getting out of their cars and yelling β€œfucks sake make up your mind I got work”

rain patio
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oh lol

sonic coral
pine topaz
#

@ivory stratus I dont like how you cured 1000 blind people WazowskiStare

jovial latch
#

yea sounds bout right

rain patio
#

if you drive too slow you might just get tailed WazowskiStare

jovial latch
#

i aint giving up this damn lease where i live anyway me and my friends got real lucky with this place
turns out, kinda hard to find a damn place to live lol

sonic coral
#

And I never trust the all ways

sonic coral
rain patio
#

on local streets?

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highways maybe

sonic coral
#

Lol when there’s no traffic I mean

rain patio
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actually highway almost mandatory

fossil jewel
rain patio
fossil jewel
#

we know

rain patio
#

can afford to live anywhere

fossil jewel
#

he always breaking pr's with his deadlifts

sonic coral
#

I’m taking em slow now

fossil jewel
#

eats weights for breakfast lunch and dinner

fossil jewel
#

i belong in weenie hut jr

west egret
jovial latch
sonic coral
#

Depending on where in the city (midtown/uptown vs downtown) it could make more sense to consider queens over Brooklyn

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And west side def means NJ might be even better than both

young peak
#

Do you recommend NJ at all @sonic coral ? You know me and what I like

jovial latch
#

yea west side id say consider NJ, especially lower west

young peak
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In a few years I'm 100% moving to NYC just idk if I should move to NJ and save money via taxes

sonic coral
young peak
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But I know what you mean

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So no luxury highrises in NJ?

sonic coral
#

Bro jersey city is mostly high rises lol

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Hoboken is where the townhouses are

young peak
#

NJ as in as close to NYC as possible

young peak
sonic coral
jovial latch
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jersey city got a bunch of high rises, lot of modern ass shit
hobokens got a buncha mid rises but along the river you got several high rises

night marsh
#

Anyone got this before when filling out a successfactors form?

jovial latch
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i live in hoboken myself

sonic coral
#

Interesting I’ve been in Hoboken a few times and it always reminds me of Brooklyn lol

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Not dt Brooklyn but like typical brownstone Brooklyn

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But also with a bit of jersey mixed in

fossil jewel
jovial latch
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yea away from the river buildings are like 5 stories up, brick shit, quite nice

sonic coral
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Hoboken’s got weird ass traffic signs tho

jovial latch
#

but i live in a high rise on the river myself, along the river is all high rises

sonic coral
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Like where are the stop signs lmao

jovial latch
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better not to drive a car here all things considered

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not enough parking

young peak
fossil jewel
#

you get this view

sonic coral
#

Meh the parking garages are cheap

young peak
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Like sub 4k for a good apt, high enough with floor to ceiling eindows

sonic coral
jovial latch
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lol

sonic coral
#

Boroughs are cities in and of themselves

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Brooklyn alone is 2.5m people

jovial latch
#

i have a view of nyc from my apartment in hoboken lol

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its tight

rain patio
sonic coral
jovial latch
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uh no im in hoboken, NJ

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the intention is to work in NYC

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god i hope c1 moves me to final round

sonic coral
#

You’re from jersey right

fossil jewel
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yeah hoboken has that view i showed

jovial latch
prime palm
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Nj

prime palm
fossil jewel
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walked along that waterfront to hoboken, the train station is cute, they got old timey style stuff

jovial latch
fossil jewel
jovial latch
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stevens

fossil jewel
#

ah thats also a popular one

sonic coral
#

Lol I got stevens too but they were crazy expensive

jovial latch
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was a bit more expensive for me than rutgers given fianncial aid, didnt wnat to go to rutgers

west egret
jovial latch
#

i dont regret it

sonic coral
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I did a thing where I took a class at stevens for a day lmao

fossil jewel
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i think thats where bloomberg is

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

UES is bougie

west egret
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All the BB offices are pretty close together

sonic coral
fossil jewel
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true

sonic coral
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Yeah im not talking Lenox hill lmao

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That’s old money

fossil jewel
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one can get a sugar momma/daddy there

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and UWS

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

L O A D E D

sonic coral
#

But yeah Brooklyn to midtown is slightly worse than queens to midtown usually

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Can also consider LIC / sunnyside / Jackson heights (along the 7 basically)

west egret
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Astoria to midtown looks like a 20-25 min commute. Not bad.

fossil jewel
#

yeah depends, i think sunset to bb isnt so bad

jovial latch
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o my friend wanted to move to LIC post college

fossil jewel
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i dont mind commutes up to 1 hour

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anything more than 1:10 and im tapped out

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which was my commute from south bk to jc

jovial latch
sonic coral
#

Sunset to chelsea was like 35-45 min worst case so midtown might be a bit rough

fossil jewel
#

the viewwww

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

yep

sonic coral
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Oof

jovial latch
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We have a 3 br 2.5 bathroom and I'm paying bout 1.7k per month

fossil jewel
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took express bus to path

jovial latch
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For reference

sonic coral
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The path transfer

fossil jewel
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it was good exercise daily

sonic coral
fossil jewel
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combined both ways 1hr walk

sonic coral
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Express to E train

fossil jewel
#

lots of stairs and stuff

sonic coral
#

Uphill 10min walk to bus KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

jovial latch
#

so i guess my point is that you can get pretty tight places if you decide to live in NJ

jovial latch
#

commute is fine in hoboken

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

yeah

sonic coral
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Since some places can be a decent walk

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Or god forbid a jersey bus

fossil jewel
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newport is 15min from WTC

jovial latch
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both of those are pretty good

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im about 5-10 minute walk from the path

fossil jewel
#

also mall in newport alongside some decent food

sonic coral
#

How are jersey buses

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I’ve never been in one

jovial latch
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the few times ive taken buses far from here they followed the schedule

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the one thing that will confuse you is how they do tickets with their dumbass zone system

sonic coral
jovial latch
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yea, it gets worse the farther from nyc you are

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the buses that go to/near nyc are usually quite reliable

fossil jewel
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i mean hey if you want JPM referral you can work in JC

jovial latch
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the 126 in hoboken runs like every 5-10 minutes on peak hours cause so many people use it

fossil jewel
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save $$

jovial latch
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jpm referral eh?

fossil jewel
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yeah in a couple of weeks

jovial latch
#

ima remember that

fossil jewel
#

i think the deadline is march 1st

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

for software, hopefully ny metro isnt full

sonic coral
#

Those things fuckin zoom on express hour tbh

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15-20min to Fidi during peak which is impressive

jovial latch
#

the light rail here is tight too, runs along the river in NJ

sonic coral
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I think they open up an extra lane on the BQE for buses during peak

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Which is smart

jovial latch
#

i worked at fidelity over the summer, they had an office in JC, but with the light rail its like 2 minutes, drops you off right there, sick

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if i walk there its like half an hour

sonic coral
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That same trip I’m mentioning can be 45min in non peak lmao

jovial latch
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lol

fossil jewel
sonic coral
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Lowkey I gotta say tho it’s pretty impressive how interconnected the NY metro is

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As shit as it is

fossil jewel
#

taxes PES_Hands

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you dont get tax refunds right?

sonic coral
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Oh I meant how shit the public transit can be lol

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But yeah taxes sadge

vital leaf
#

its frustrating

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hundreds of applications, 0 callbacks

sonic coral
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If they go off fit I might get a refund otherwise I might owe money lmao

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So we’ll see

fossil jewel
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lmk when you do file, curious to see

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if pay or recieve

vital leaf
#

i'm starting to get depressedsad_cowboy

sonic coral
#

The job market is absolute shit right now so it’s not indicative of your skills

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You’ll get something eventually bro

jovial latch
#

ive accepted that the job market aint a reflection of my skills, but man does it still sting

vital leaf
#

🀞

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I dont know where I'll end up after I graduate

sonic coral
#

Nobody does tbh

vital leaf
#

I might even go back to my home country

sonic coral
#

Everyone just takes whatever they can get

wheat seal
#

How are Splunk and PayPal doing layoffs?

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Shouldn’t they be fine

sonic coral
#

Wasn’t PayPal struggling

tardy geode
vital leaf
#

competition is at peaks

dry salmon
#

Friend’s bf was just laid off at PayPal

fossil jewel
#

competitor to datadog

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

no clue

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ik they're selective with hiring though

dry salmon
#

huh

fossil jewel
#

he giving robux for free

wheat seal
wheat seal
fossil jewel
#

their profits are doing good i heard

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good product

wheat seal
#

I mean it’s possible but idk

lapis cove
wheat seal
green pendant
#

At this point I feel like the only way I get a job at apple is if I create a startup that gets acquired by apple

#

Literally taken referrals from staff engineers and engineering managers but still get ghosted every time

fossil jewel
#

my prof said he made a patent then sold it to apple

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be like him ig

green pendant
#

Yeah tbh that's smart

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I love seeing the little trophies companies give when you file a patent working for them

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Like amazon gives that puzzle piece

static moth
shrewd mountain
#

I have a 3 hour video interview for SDE position at microchip next week. Can someone tell me what all I need to prepare for microchip. Will be glad to talk to someone who went through the process.

dense seal
#

does Snap not hire new grads? is the Snap Up apprentice program the only way in?

teal canopy
#

any place to look for job postings?

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besides linkedin

teal jackal
#

nyc is wild now

fossil jewel
#

always is

sonic coral
#

Still not as wild as the 90s tho

fossil jewel
#

trueee

sonic coral
#

Altho we’re getting there

fossil jewel
#

social media is showing us more than what exists

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citizen showing every little thing

sonic coral
#

Lol I refuse to use citizen for that reason

fossil jewel
#

i need to turn off notifs for my school area

sonic coral
#

My friend used it back on staten and saw the wackiest shit like β€œman assaulted with wrench”

fossil jewel
#

oh there was

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"assault at popeys" during the chicken sandwich craze

teal jackal
#

i dont use any apps other than the bare minimum

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im a tech boomer tbh

fossil jewel
#

respect

teal jackal
#

"theres an app for that"
"theres a fist for these nuts bihh"

sonic coral
fossil jewel
#

u dont need the time sink that is social media

teal jackal
#

im a discord addict actually

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no other app

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tbh

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oh man

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popeyes

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that was a certified 2019 throwback

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the ultimate strat is to just not buy into marketing hype and wait

fossil jewel
#

its a good sandwich

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ngl

fossil jewel
teal jackal
#

im addicted to group chats

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i dont really feel anything about mindlessly scrolling social media

livid yew
#

As an android user, group chats just don't work lol

sonic coral
fossil jewel
teal jackal
#

^

sonic coral
#

Holy shit fr?

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Did they have layoffs too

west egret
sonic coral
#

Multiple people actually

teal jackal
uneven fulcrum
#

For people who had Palantir HM round, were you asked leetcode or system design?

naive kayak
#

A friend of mine is an international student who is a senior studying at my university and is graduating in may. Have any international students been successful is being able to get a job for this upcoming summer after graduation? Our University is located in the United States. He is looking for a Software Engineering full-time Position, he has experince in all languages and is a great candidate with a high gpa. Would appreciate the help πŸ™‚ (Don't know if this is the right place/text channel to post this lol)

fallen fox
fallen fox
naive kayak
fallen fox
#

the entry level market is REALLY bad right now with all the lay offs and hiring freezes

naive kayak
fallen fox
#

there are places hiring; but the market is saturated with recent grads + laid off employees

naive kayak
#

true

fallen fox
#

sponsorship is almost impossible unless you're from a top school + internships

naive kayak
#

Damn, thats unfortunate, I wish you luck and all other recent grads and upcoming grads on job search!

gray dagger
#

Or if you’re a citizen, start a company and employ your friend

naive kayak
#

I want to do that, but its not easy to get someone sponsorship lol... that was my first idea lol + I'm a sophomore, so the only time I'll be able to do this is during the summer.

sonic coral
#

It’s also expensive to sponsor

naive kayak
sonic coral
#

I think it costs the company like 30k

naive kayak
#

Probably something around that

sonic coral
#

Which is why only really cash flush companies tend to sponsor

naive kayak
#

Yep

sweet plover
#

I don't think you'd need to sponsor immediately

#

He has an OPT for which he could work as a volunteer (paid or unpaid) for 12 months

#

Buying some valuable time for looking for more opportunities

uneven fulcrum
#

I got two emails regarding the final round, one email is vague but the other one says one technical coding question will be asked. So I guess leetcode it is

naive kayak
#

Hmm, yea that could work.. I will check with him, thanks for letting me know about that, I was thinking there was something like that but wasn't fully sure

sweet plover
#

Also, there are tons of companies which are more than okay to hire people as volunteers, so he could try applying to those

naive kayak
#

Companies Like?

gray dagger
#

And to file the lottery it used to take $10 but now it’s increased to $260 I think? And for the actual h1 application it takes about a $1000

#

It’s too complex, better consult an immigration attorney

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The only reason I know this is I was looking into sponsoring myself 🀣

wheat seal
#

quora doesnt even hire anyone

#

how could they have layoffs

#

thats really suprising

sonic coral
#

Rescinded ng != layoffs

rain patio
fossil jewel
slate bobcat
grizzled bronze
fossil jewel
#

made it bigger for u

neon perch
wheat seal
#

Is job market better in EU?

neon perch
#

Not all, I think majority of them don’t.

tardy geode
#

bruh no , we come on loans most of us

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some even put their property on loan(its called a collateral loan)

#

we broke asf here.

errant karma
#

What? I am super broke and I had to struggle to pay my tuition. I might be biased because I got 85% scholarship but it is tough out here

gray dagger
#

Is it USC?

pine topaz
#

@tardy geode im rooting for you, I hope you get something soon hugs hugs

rain patio
#

4 hr apple onsite tmr, shaking and crying

jovial latch
#

Same

chilly burrow
dawn sequoia
lament basin
green pendant
#

Feel like there is a whole spectrum of international students ranging from people who mortgaged their homes to study all the way to people living in luxury apartments driving Maybach's to college. I think I've seen both kinds.

teal jackal
#

my parents came here with pretty much nothing in the early 90s

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i think most indian ints at my college are more like my parents once was

green pendant
#

I knew an Indian intl whose parents had a very successful business back home this man legit did not ever think twice before making a purchase

#

But then hanging out with people like that is so hard because they'll always suggest doing stuff that costs a lot and I still haven't found an effective way to cancel a plan by letting someone know that I can't afford it

teal jackal
#

You know what I may have dodged a bullet with Amazon
The culture at Amazon is very ableist because asking too many dumb questions or asking for too much help is grounds to get pipped(for context, I'm a slow learner at first and need a bit of time to get acclimated into something)
"raising the bar"

tardy geode
tardy geode
#

but most are from mid income backgrounds and humble beginnings .

teal jackal
#

^

#

is this a nairong reference

#

dude is based tbh

#

anyways I hope he also survives this madness and gets an offer

timber rock
#

as of today i now have no interviews scheduled for the future sadge the wait begins again

teal jackal
#

man that sucks

#

dry season in the uk rn too?

timber rock
#

yeah

#

im waiting to hear back from 3 interviews rn but the inbox has been super dry for a while

lament basin
#

keep applying

timber rock
#

thanks for the advice

tardy geode
#

😭

#

95 days to graduation , and no offers.

timber rock
tender sluice
hot hatch
#

a lot of other fields spend 6 months after graduating to get their first job

#

just gotta keep at it

fossil jewel
#

think its harder when you're a timer

#

for a perm resident or US citizen you can just go back and stay with family

#

or work any job just to get bills paid

lilac flare
#

I'm a first gen US citizen and I still don't have an offer after graduating Dec

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But I cant just stay with family cause they're abroad

#

But def not as hard as a timer. You got this

tardy geode
#

i am non us

#

😭

marsh sand
#

how do I stop myself from refreshing the inbox

#

every 10 minutes

hot hatch
#

i be waiting for the serotonin boosts from getting an interview invitation (not that I have many)

tardy geode
#

3 month summer internship in the US , back home like ~2 years of workex(idk if US employers even consider this)

hot hatch
#

^ adding on to this, if the internship went well, you could reach out to your manager

gray dagger
gray dagger
teal jackal
#

android studio is pain
Jetbrains took a massive L when they made this dog turd
in theory it's easy to use
in practice its super finicky, flaky, buggy, and crap just breaks and you have no idea why

gray dagger
#

Xcode is actually much better

teal jackal
#

never used xcode b4

#

but i do know android studio is really bad

#

they just let this half assed crap be the official tool of android devs

gray dagger
#

I used android studio before and it was complicated

#

But at least I did build apps

#

I like the xml structuring for ui

#

Drag and drop 🫠

#

Unlike Xcode

teal jackal
#

The xml structure tool is extremely finicky though

gray dagger
#

Have you tried react native or flutter?

teal jackal
#

like your UI elements collectively go FLYING if you just touch one thing

#

nah this is for a class

#

never doing mobile dev again

gray dagger
#

Keep at it and you can get hired by many many car companies

#

Like Rivian, lucid, Tesla, Hyundai etc for their infotainment

#

*in any other economy

teal jackal
#

Yea I'm a huge car guy

#

though if I worked at an EV company I wouldn't buy their product

#

I have a lot of gas car dreams I need to fulfill

#

First goal is probably gonna be get a hot hatch, like the corolla GR

#

I hope they make a lot of em in 2025

#

anyways I get why car infotainment is ass

#

just working on this makes me want to kms myself

green pendant
gray dagger
#

I like Mazda 3 GT hatch

green pendant
#

even though people have told me that there are scaling issues

teal jackal
#

I'm forced to use android studio

gray dagger
#

I should’ve tried flutter

#

I’m working on an website and iOS app

teal jackal
#

this class is taught in android studio so I'm not allowed to deviate

#

I heard react native is a little better

gray dagger
#

Once I’m done with that I eventually need to build an android app

gray dagger
teal jackal
#

I'm dead set on backend tbh

#

I'm already headed to backend dev

#

Probably will go down this path tbh

#

Other interest of mine is computer graphics and game engines, but the career outlook for those is kinda narrow

night marsh
#

Anyone done Anduril Phone yet?

lilac flare
#

just took the Sig OA. it was weird how it was only 2 questions for a Code Signal

night marsh
#

Search on my Discord isn't working rn

teal jackal
lilac flare
#

I thought all CodeSignals were 4 questions

night marsh
#

some are custom

teal jackal
#

sig OA is known to be not so hard

lilac flare
teal jackal
#

Idk

#

dont ask me

gray dagger
#

I got ghosted after the sig OA

teal jackal
#

anyways codesignal outside of the GCA is a hosting platform for OAs

#

companies can customize it

lilac flare
#

did you follow-up?

gray dagger
#

Yup

#

That was like back in September

lilac flare
#

lolll

#

I guess I should follow-up right away

marsh sand
#

People who got rejected from Palantir after the HM round, how many days after did you receive the Candidate Experience Survey?

green pendant
fossil jewel
ivory stratus
teal jackal
#

but that area seems kinda desolate

green pendant
ivory stratus
#

anybody in here know japanese?

compact vortex
#

Bruh chewy never sent OA

#

Lol

marsh sand
#

genuinely petrified since it's been more than 3 days and I still don't have any form of update

neon perch
#

SIG ghosted almost everyone I know after the OA

west egret
marsh sand
crystal delta
raw echo
#

how is the flexport oa?

ivory stratus
#

I bought Genki and minna no nihongo to self study

marsh sand
#

Asking recruiter for an update isn't like bad right

crystal delta
marsh sand
#

had my interview on Monday and wanted to follow up on Friday

crystal delta