#2023_grads
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nice
sometimes I wonder, 2024 ng listings will probably be on the more conservative side since companies don't want to risk overhiring again. Plus all of 2024 grads plus many unemployed/underemployed 2023 grads will apply for them too. when tf is the industry gonna get back up on its feet lol
never
hiring like crazy
will it ever come back
just last year every company was giving away offers
bc they had tunnel vision and thought growth was permanent
Anyone had experience with interviewing for Software Engineer I at Mastercard Launch program?
oh theres hte fuckin automated GM rejection
what the fuck i aced the tech assessment
Would y'all rather do nothing for 6 months/graduate late, or work as a swe on outdated tech at some random no name company?
you're asking a choice between nothing and not nothing
doing something is always going to be better than nothing
What about graduating late though? Especially if you get to take a good class and maybe a project or two
that wouldnt impact your job searching or make you stand out more
classes mean so fucking little and i kinda hate that i put in the effort to get a masters degree while all my friends with bachelors were able to get full time offers from their internships
while i couldnt cause of a whole deal of bad luck
college classes do absolutely nothing
all anyone cares about is work experience
no one 'but actually' me im exaggerating to make a point
if you wanna learn stuff you can also do it after work
i found there's a lot more free time working FT than studying 24/7 during uni
i kind of got the strat pre layoffs
do an extra internship and delay grad for potentially better prospects
but if you have something lined up rn and don't take it, how do you know it'll look any better later? and you won't have that safety net then
ive been thinking of applying to internships out of sheer desperation
if you're graduating this may/june i think a lot of places wont interview you
π
yea fuck me
my college is doing a career fair but bets are lotta these damn companies are just here to advertise
especially since its virtual
virtual fairs suck fr
logistics are better this way
in person fair last fall, big ass line, waited 1-2 hours outside, got in, spent 4-5 hours inside waiting in more lines, talked to ~10 compaines, sent resumes, emailed recruiters, heard from no one
virtual i can sit there and be content with the fact that im not standing in a line for hours and that nothing will come of it
on a completely unrelated note my annoyance for international grad students increased after that in person career fair
why
90% of the people there were grad students and honestly it just really bothered me
cant relate
i couldnt tell ya why to be honest
i have my own biases but don't want to be political
but here the international grad students will cheat and are usually pretty dumb and just care bout doign whatever to get the passing grade
ehhhhhhhhhhh
they'll literally copy shit from chat gpt and not change it so you end up with shit like this
granted, only my experience
obviously theres decent ones
and what you said i feel like can be said for so many undergrad students
i dont they're entirely at fault though, lot of the grad cs courses here have no prereqs which i suspect is intentional
its not rly an international vs noninternational thing
everyone just tries to game the system
^^ my 2c is that there are some differences of this nature, but also kekw domestic students are plenty dumb/academically dishonest
lotta dumb people in general i guess
but then they end up with jobs and i didnt so what does that say about me lol
i dont think people are dumb
its just society has failed us all
everyone thinks they're gonna be the next ninja or pokimane
charisma β
aesthetics β
gaming skills β
can type funny symbols kinda ok β
kinda wanted to elaborate on this, what i mean is i feel like people just don't apply themselves
or maybe im diffy 
then you have people who apply themselves way too hard doing hackathons n nonstop cs stuff
those kinda people always annoyed me a bit
cause thats the kinda people comapnies want
yea i hate those tryhards fr
difference between can't, and can, but are unwilling to, is largely immaterial to me-- can't force someone to care (more than what we try to do with the carrot and the stick of the educational system & job markets)
plus theres just that feeling you get in your soul when you're IQ gapped 
you know what annoyed is too light a word i hate em
π if ppl like doing cs why hate on them lol
yea you can like something, thats fine, but dont go doing something non stop all the fuckin time cause then the implication is if you arent doing that shit and god forbid you have a work life balance, that looks worse to companies
yeah but i think part of it is culture
back then i think people were more realistic
that and i dont get how people enjoy those hackathons that last all day
that seems misdirected, it seems like companies r the true problem not the people who just enjoy doing cs stuff ?
or w/e idk maybe they just had to be a certain way to adapt to tough times
i think a part of it is me failing to comprehend how people find doing leetcode type shit or long hackathons fun
but it does set an expectation that the 'ideal' candidate would do this stuff
i used to like doing hackathos when I was younger, its fun when you get to visit a new city and build some cool stuff imo
believe i like cs, i got a masters in ML but i just never cared to do any extra shit outside or work or uni
just actively did not want to
kids do π but also culture as in all the FOMO in social media
meh i think the problem is more of companies making it a zero-sum game and a shitty new grad cycle than people who enjoy cs
I kinda touched on this before, but companies promote hackathons and other events to get people interested in coding, cause they want a bigger labor pool I think
They wanna force it a bit
Let kids dream, damn
i was being sarcastic here btw
They're spirit hasn't been crushed by reality
hardship builds good engineers
I wish I had a spirit 
Mayb, but it's not a necessity
bro.
2 me u do π
Even if u r a racoon
maybe this is why build is the bane of my existence
gcc doesn't play nice with my very complicated templates
thats new to me damn
wonder what the difference is
oh yeah the gcc vs clang w templates is what i meant
yea didn't look into it too indepth, I'm sure we are doing something funny
probably fake, but about the norm for linkedin these days
anyone attempted the assessment for United Airlines Junior Java Role?
Application link?
I dont have that. Applied while ago
This, There is so much more to life than being in front of a computer all day! like go on a walk, get coffee, meet new people, learn philosophy
for the leetcode is frequency list filter accurate?
Good morning fellas
And FUCK JAY POWELL
Inflation hawks will ruin the economy
Jay Powell's strategy of intentionally trying to tank the economy to curb inflation is going horribly wrong
I don't give a shit about Democrat vs Republican I just want Jay Powell out of the fed chair position
my flatmate's amazon offer isn't delayed , that's one lucky person.
Stock market looking hot for the first month tho
Good morning sir
ayo kirby gang
@nocturne oriole
No idea
Where are you guys finding new grad job postings
Ive been using linkedin but a lot of the entry level or new grad roles are requiring too much experience
linkedin itself and yeah I agree postings seem to be scarce
gm
Yes definitely. It's going to be better by exactly 26.437%
okay let me rephrase the question, since you are considered eligible for most ng roles upto a year after graduation, would an ng job poster prefer an actual ng over someone who graduated 6 months ago + has 6 months of work exp at shitty organization
hmm let's see
all companies that hire CS grads : x
companies that posted listings in Jan: y (<<<<x)
companies that can potentially post in Feb: x-y (which is almost x)
thus, all companies that typically hire compsci majors will hire them in february
the actual number is 100.000% @coarse quiver
usually actual new grad
bcz i dont think the first part of your statement is true
a lot of them are strict on your grad date afaik
right so then if you are going to switch jobs in ~1 year, wouldn't the shitty no name org + outdated tech stack actively hurt you (as opposed to being actual ng) assuming that the market gets way better in 6-12 months
big assumption
what part?
that things will get better so soon
if you're bullish on next year being like last year with massive hiring then yeah just delay
fairs. lets assume that it doesn't get better then. 2 years of no name shitty outdated tech experience vs 1 year of the same (assuming you delayed graduation by a year but joined the same company)
in 2 years when both of you are looking for a job, who is hurt more
(assuming things getting better in 2 years)
the 1 year ??
imo this would happen in Q2 2024 or post that
people with ~1 YOE are kind of in a place where
theyre not really new grads
but theyre also not midlevel
yeah but midlevel with shitty tech stack kinda sucks no?
you are stuck with that stack a little
most mid level openings specifically ask for more modern stacks as far as I have seen
lets say you work with PhP or Ruby on Rails or something
and at 2 years you gain some experience with it too
well what you wrote was assuming you ended up at the same company
obv it's not optimal to work on outdated tech
but id also like to be able to pay the bills
is getting pigeonholed with a bad tech stack a thing?
and buy stocks when they crash
same question
except snap pls don't buy snap
I did it the last time their stocks fell lol
not really
skills are usually transferable and a lot of big companies are language and tech-agnostic
^ i was reluctant to answer this bcz i think it depends on what companies you're aiming for
yeah, smaller companies are more likely to require a specific stack
yeah i think q2 2024 at the earliest but who knows
Q2 2024 would be better than now
I see this is something I had no clue about
still holding on to hope for the Amazon unfreeze π₯²
I was assuming that even amazon for eg would have a swe 2 listing with "2 or more years of Java" or something like that listed
it will happen eventually 
Nah usually they just say like "x years experience in a modern programming language"
im not a recruiter but i lowkey dont think they care
even if it says java/ruby/c++
just put one of them as a language skill
i assume you use one of them to LC anyways
how are they going to fact check you
just my 2c though, do whatever keeps you off the streets
who knows? maybe if you accept the offer now and keep interviewing, you might get a better job offer before you graduate and you can renege this one
I see
don't have an offer yet but yeah I was just overthinking
youll get another email bro
does it come immediately after
i didnt get it
imma email that campus email and let m know
its an easy test right?
cuz its like 25 minutes
yeah its trivia
kk thats chill
does chewy sponsor?
idk
Okay I don't think they do
If two really good companies schedule an interview at the same time, and the recruiter for one of them doesnβt respond when you email her to change but the interviews are today what do you do
take both interviews at the same time
and make them fight over you
(but also, just contact the other one?)
weird that a company would schedule a interview without you confirming...?
Should I assume that the company that is not responding to my rescheduling request is gonna still have the interview at the same time?
Go to the one that you didn't email
Bro you gotta wait for some stuff lol
I'd check the spam folder
Lmao I didnβt get as well
ice jj fish best rapper
anyone interview with Bloomberg recently? Have a phone technical tomorrow. wondering what the difficulty will be.
Medium
I had validate BST on when I did my Phone interview
Not there either
Peeps who got offered (or rejected) from Palantir after HM, how long did it take you to hear back?
How can I improve on final interviews. I've been in 2 and it's really hurting my confidence
After getting rejected to both
I thought I did well but it doesn't seem like I am
And these companies won't give me feedback to improve
have you tried to do mock interviews with friends + current SWEs?
no, but each company asks different questions
and i have no idea how to prepare for them
did anyone also get a 2K OA?
I understand that part. Ive had lots of iOS experience, so as a new grad, that means I have double the amount to study. I am prepping full time everyday, half of my day is LC and the other half is iOS OOP + building something from scratch
2 final interview rejections are eating me alive. how many final interviews have you been to?
ive had one final interview that was python OOP and failed it when i shouldnt have. now i know better about what to practice, so I am just adding that to my list (of what to study)
Has anyone interviewed with Appian for their Solution Engineer position?
does anyone know if chewy is open to remote?
for anyone that's taken an offer
also, should i add my Hawaiian Airlines internship that I haven't started yet on my resume? i start in like. two weeks
You can just put incoming SWE intern with your expected dates there
what should i put for bullet points?
Did they tell you what you'd be working on?
all i know is front end or mobile
I think I just left mine blank though tbh lol. Not like it will have any negative effects. It just lets ppl know that you were able to land an internship.
And you'll have more experience by w/e date your internship ends.
Just do a vague description and update it as you get farther in
sweet thanks
damn i never did the incoming stuff
when i asked people they said it sounds dumb since incoming can end up being cancelled
yeah plus you can't really talk about in an interview
like if you actually did something you can list impact + skills and they'll ask you questions on that but what do you even ask someone who has an incoming intern on their resume
unless you specifically want to give them logistics info like you will be unavailable to start during those dates
i only added incoming if it was massive clout boost or relevant to the role im applying for
i mean like i get it if it's like. months away but i start within the next 3 weeks
so i can understand something that starts super soon vs something that starts way later
cant you also just wait 3 weeks
i mean yeah but i would also rather just apply for whatever roles i can
and chewy says they require an internship
oh fair
i mean im banking on having this hawaiian airlines job turn into full time since theres this program through my school where that's the goal
it's basically like you are in this program, match with local companies, and you're an intern with the goal of converting to full time
i mean not always sadly lol
rip meta
yeah it is lol
i think their HQ is in Phoenix though but i could be wrong
i live here
ah
but i think they pay $25 an hour
hawaiis so cool, thinking of traveling there one day
i think thats okay
do you get discounted flights π
i get free standby lol
and buddy passes
so my gf, my best friend and I are going to Japan after grad

the pay isn't great but im just happy to have something and be working in a smaller company first
yeah exactly
i've heard really good stuff about HA too
so im really excited
i only know MA
Hey, anyone here interviewed with palantir for sde role?
wut
how many questions?
maybe it's just mc then or just an easy q
has anyone applied for jobot and done the instant interview?
oh yeah no lol
def doesn't sound legit
just got approved for graduation this may
feels good
summa cum laude too π« i was a tryhard all four years and all i get is a honor cord hahahaha
W
haha that makes a lot of sense why you're so cracked then
tbh im basically an applied math major (data science) so not much correlation between my school work and the leetcode grind
i don't feel like school prepared me for industry at all its a scam
i dont think it prepared anyone
trust me i feel that too
our college is basically just focused toward academia and not setting people up for industry so yeah
they're trying to move to college of engineering so that they actually care about people having jobs afterwards
Me
damn jake your pfp no longer doxxes you
lmaoooo
had to
anybody in here blind and need some healing
I feel like school helped me figure out what tf I'm doing as a developer
but past a certain point school started going down the useless route
Dmed you
I'm still waiting on mine and I put in my application a month ago
Damn you a good lookin mf tho
thanks fam π
mine was open for two weeks and i had to email my advisor to get it approved lmao
it took so long for me
i got it a week or two after grades got posted
the awarded degree
50% of this server has interviewed with palantir atp
Cum Laude lmao
cum loud
bruh
just call it a participation award
summa is highest
π
bro everyone laying off
im just hoping this means more opportunities next year or the year after
dodged a bullet my homie
paypall laying too
wait i know where you went lmfao
Yeah. I hope the ppl that were on my team are okay though.
My mentor actually went to Asana not too long agoβ¦
Combined with that I know where @fossil jewel lives
we
I now know too

Granted, it's 525 positions globally.
ok now we just need credit card number, SSN, DOB, and some other stuff
my credit number is 1-888-Loser
but real talk your school has some weird ass reqs for honors lol
my phone number is 1-800-PRANKED
whole school weird iβm glad to be out of there
nyu is the other weird one
when 3.9 isn't necessarily summa cum laude
might as well just give up
at least my tuition was free damn
nice
thatβs my cope for being rejected from nyu and wl for stony
oh yeah that's not a lot
im using a lot of my fy pay to get rid of my debt
Lol I got wl for Bing
L
no one in my hs got into nyu or stony
I got WL for chatGPT
ghetto ass hs
getting into nyu was a joke at my school
its like the equivalent of cash cow for MS at columbia
yeah my hs was liberal arts focused
stem was weak
pro: iβm good at writing and public speaking kinda
liberal arts hs 
u mean
WRITING?
LMAOOOO
it's a good thing you aren't good at lefting

STEM major that's good at speaking
honestly though good on you for not getting into NYU
it only makes sense if you're broke broke
otherwise massssssssive debt
Ugliest nyu cs major still better than most handsome west coaster

I take that back
Most handsome berkeley
unrelated but kirb did you go to NYU?
has anyone heard back from l3harris?
trying to see if they got back to everyone at once and i got fucked ghosted or if it some people ahvent heard back
i know someone who got an offer but that was november
they did a buncha interviews/hiring in janurary so thats what im focused on
interviewed with em week ago, told me they get back releatively quick
saw someone got an l3harris offer in the process channel, my anxiety has skyrocketed
it's only been a week, i'd give it another week before you reach out
nah i already did ask bitch ass hr when id expect to hear back, theres never any issues with overcommunicating
especially when recruiters will fucking ghost you
where did u go to school?
imma guess a SUNY
honestly im probably going to be extremely neurotic and anxious until i hear back from l3harris now
just how its gonna be
Whereβd you end up going
turns out I was rightπΆ
nice, though imo oop aint all that hard tbh
i mean how much can they really go into on oop
CCNY?
W
eh sure
L
obv tons of people care
otherwise how can cornell convince you to cough up 80k a year
facts
after first job it don't matter
my damn college president gets paid 800k a year
as if they need more tuition
mind you they also gave him an 800k sign on bonus
lot of schools charge that nowadays
sadly
must be the egg prices
publics only good if you live in state
out of state its still kinda scuffed
and even then it can still be a bit of money
cause loan companies and colleges cooperate to fuck over students
you charge more tuition, people take out more loans, loan companies make interest money, colleges make more money
ngl coming from a canadian ya'll pay crazy amounts to go to school
like its wild how much debt ya'll are saddled with at like 21
i mean we can do the whole 'america is crap' bit
pretty much the least developed nation out of all the developed nations
naw dont get me wrong if I had the chance to go to berk or MIT or an american top school I would
like quant quant or core dev swe
'Murica. Ruining lives since 1775
Idk what the actual date was but you get the gist
usually the counterargument is that people say america is better than developing nations, which is true
but my god america is far worse compared to every other developed nation
its astonishing
well
Better for what? Taxes 
the reality is, im fiancially stable enough to not feel a need to uproot my whole life and go to another country, but like, yea shit requires money to move to another country anyways
Ill take taxes over being debt ridden any day
50% taxes?
but america is so much worse right?
if you can afford it, why not move somewhere else?
that is not what that last statement says to me
Its funny cause the US is so individualized that they dont give two shits about anyone else
thatβs a nice part
freedom of self i guess
otherwise there was a selfishness with covid
i mean id sum it up as, america is nice if you can afford it
gotcha, yea scs and mit are p busted
the moment you enter any sort of fianicial unstability all the problems come rearing towrads you
america the land of the place that'll pay me 200+ k for typing
Quant Research is usually more interesting than quant dev.
i was asking for clarification
america is also interesting in that its not so much america as it is 50 entirely different states
on what they meant by quant
each state is a personality fr
Mb.
so you end up with pretty chill places and pretty fucked places, and a pretty fucked national govt
is this guy holding a bag or his balls
but yea i agree
chancla
oh shit not the chancla
Nah. Just be good at ML
. ML trading ftw
i did well in my ml courses
ah ml
just never fell in love with it
its gonna be my fuckin career at some point
i like data engineering and big data stuff
i mastered in that shit
backend is also cool
distributed might be my final goal but iβll have to read more into it
im chill with just bout anything except QA and pure front end crap
have you taken a course
nah
on some real shit how the fuck do u pass tiktok oa's and interviews
i do have books
that shit was so hard for me to process
and a site shared by someone thatβs really good
read the papers on paxos, raft etc
Backend in trading is usually bad. Poor code quality. Spaghetti code
. Unless it's specialized like hft
dynamodb
nvm you were talking bout the class
i meant distributed systems
it wasnt like crazy bad, but the third one just rekt me
L
I think I got 2/3 on Tiktok OA but mostly because I saw one of the questions before
technically 23' for commencement
but my last semester was dec 22
so im kinda both
oh
ok so '23 but started working i guess
nice
Are you going to be in a Manhattan office?
yesss
make sure you live somewhere cheaper since those taxes gonna eat your salary
if you find something in brooklyn along the N line you'd be within a good commuting distance + by some good food
Or alternatively work for a job where you make enough to afford living in the city before you inevitably move out to an outerborough 
Bro ny is like its own country alone lmao
Each borough, Long Island, upstate lmao
Nah the chads are the dudes commuting from PA and CT lmao
I can imagine
Drive or train
Ah yeah a solid 2+ hours lol
I know kids who took the lirr to stony from queens, imagine taking a 1-1.5hr commute for college every day you have class
it really aint so bad being across the river
My commute back from hs ranged from 30min to 1.5hr in horrible traffic
I remember when we were stuck on the verazzano on the way to school because there was a jumper
whats a jumper
People started getting out of their cars and yelling βfucks sake make up your mind I got workβ
oh lol
Guy who wanted to jump off the bridge
@ivory stratus I dont like how you cured 1000 blind people 
nyc mood
yea sounds bout right
if you drive too slow you might just get tailed 
i aint giving up this damn lease where i live anyway me and my friends got real lucky with this place
turns out, kinda hard to find a damn place to live lol
Bro every single time I approach a stop or light I get the feeling Iβm gonna get rear ended
And I never trust the all ways
i got honked at going 25 local 
Lol 25 speed limit = 35 then slow to 30 if thereβs a cop
Lol when thereβs no traffic I mean
actually highway almost mandatory
in this recession as a new grad?

rob is a chad 
we know
can afford to live anywhere
he always breaking pr's with his deadlifts
Lol not anymore
Iβm taking em slow now
eats weights for breakfast lunch and dinner
i belong in weenie hut jr
Yeah I'm going to try looking in Brooklyn but it can get pretty expensive too
if you're gonna be working in manhatten, you could also consider renting across the river in NJ...depending on where in manhatten you're working
Where is your office
Depending on where in the city (midtown/uptown vs downtown) it could make more sense to consider queens over Brooklyn
And west side def means NJ might be even better than both
Do you recommend NJ at all @sonic coral ? You know me and what I like
yea west side id say consider NJ, especially lower west
In a few years I'm 100% moving to NYC just idk if I should move to NJ and save money via taxes
If youβre having a good time in Kirkland rn tbh yeah
Might want a change of pace if I move
But I know what you mean
So no luxury highrises in NJ?
Oh youβll have a change of pace bro even in jc lol
Bro jersey city is mostly high rises lol
Hoboken is where the townhouses are
NJ as in as close to NYC as possible
Is jersey City the close one
If youβre gonna move here you should try to get out of the βNYCβ mindset and consider the individual neighborhoods lol
jersey city got a bunch of high rises, lot of modern ass shit
hobokens got a buncha mid rises but along the river you got several high rises
Anyone got this before when filling out a successfactors form?
i live in hoboken myself
Interesting Iβve been in Hoboken a few times and it always reminds me of Brooklyn lol
Not dt Brooklyn but like typical brownstone Brooklyn
But also with a bit of jersey mixed in
15 minutes via path train
yea away from the river buildings are like 5 stories up, brick shit, quite nice
Hobokenβs got weird ass traffic signs tho
but i live in a high rise on the river myself, along the river is all high rises
Like where are the stop signs lmao
Yeah yeah I get the boroughs n shit, but idk man I just wanna live within a highrise for cheapesh in NYC
you get this view
Meh the parking garages are cheap
Like sub 4k for a good apt, high enough with floor to ceiling eindows
My guy Iβm talking neighborhoods in the city lmao
lol
i thought that white statue was an among us
U in ny rn?
If thereβs one thing jersey city has its def the views
uh no im in hoboken, NJ
the intention is to work in NYC
god i hope c1 moves me to final round
Youβre from jersey right
yeah hoboken has that view i showed
ye, im from south brunswick actually, close to princeton
Awww yea c u soon
walked along that waterfront to hoboken, the train station is cute, they got old timey style stuff
graduating in a few months lol
you happen to go to rutgers?
stevens
ah thats also a popular one
Lol I got stevens too but they were crazy expensive
was a bit more expensive for me than rutgers given fianncial aid, didnt wnat to go to rutgers
One of the BB offices which is midtown I guess. I was thinking of Astoria as well.
i dont regret it
I did a thing where I took a class at stevens for a day lmao
as long as the trains take you by lex and 59th you're fine
i think thats where bloomberg is
Midtown def consider Astoria and UES
UES is bougie
All the BB offices are pretty close together
Yorkville has cheaper college stuff
true

L O A D E D
But yeah Brooklyn to midtown is slightly worse than queens to midtown usually
Can also consider LIC / sunnyside / Jackson heights (along the 7 basically)
Astoria to midtown looks like a 20-25 min commute. Not bad.
yeah depends, i think sunset to bb isnt so bad
o my friend wanted to move to LIC post college
i dont mind commutes up to 1 hour
anything more than 1:10 and im tapped out
which was my commute from south bk to jc
But then we got this place and we are literally never giving up this lease
Sunset to chelsea was like 35-45 min worst case so midtown might be a bit rough
Wait south bk to jersey city?
yep
Oof
We have a 3 br 2.5 bathroom and I'm paying bout 1.7k per month
took express bus to path
For reference
The path transfer
it was good exercise daily
Lol I had a similar commute from staten to Chelsea for a while
combined both ways 1hr walk
Express to E train
lots of stairs and stuff
Uphill 10min walk to bus 
so i guess my point is that you can get pretty tight places if you decide to live in NJ
yeah
commute is fine in hoboken
JC is fine
taxes lower too
I think the important thing is just living near the path right
yeah
newport is 15min from WTC
you got the path but then also the 126 bus to PABT, connects to a buncha shit
both of those are pretty good
im about 5-10 minute walk from the path
also mall in newport alongside some decent food
the farther you get from NYC the worse they get
but that being said, ive never had a bad experience with them
the few times ive taken buses far from here they followed the schedule
the one thing that will confuse you is how they do tickets with their dumbass zone system
I took some Suffolk county buses in stony before and my experience with those is the schedule is way worse and less frequent but the drivers are nicer lol
yea, it gets worse the farther from nyc you are
the buses that go to/near nyc are usually quite reliable
i mean hey if you want JPM referral you can work in JC
the 126 in hoboken runs like every 5-10 minutes on peak hours cause so many people use it
save $$
jpm referral eh?
yeah in a couple of weeks
ima remember that
i think the deadline is march 1st
Yeah same with staten express buses
for software, hopefully ny metro isnt full
Those things fuckin zoom on express hour tbh
15-20min to Fidi during peak which is impressive
the light rail here is tight too, runs along the river in NJ
i worked at fidelity over the summer, they had an office in JC, but with the light rail its like 2 minutes, drops you off right there, sick
if i walk there its like half an hour
That same trip Iβm mentioning can be 45min in non peak lmao
lol
i sent a friend rq with link
Lowkey I gotta say tho itβs pretty impressive how interconnected the NY metro is
As shit as it is
I have no clue if theyβre going off my fit taxable or social security included wages (????)
If they go off fit I might get a refund otherwise I might owe money lmao
So weβll see
i'm starting to get depressed
Hey just remember your job doesnβt determine your worth as an individual
The job market is absolute shit right now so itβs not indicative of your skills
Youβll get something eventually bro
ive accepted that the job market aint a reflection of my skills, but man does it still sting
Nobody does tbh
I might even go back to my home country
Everyone just takes whatever they can get
Wasnβt PayPal struggling
ikr π
competition is at peaks
Friendβs bf was just laid off at PayPal
i thought splunk was a big product
competitor to datadog
Did datadog do layoffs yet
huh
he giving robux for free
It is and itβs hella popular
I doubt they will
I mean itβs possible but idk
Oh I see makes sense then
At this point I feel like the only way I get a job at apple is if I create a startup that gets acquired by apple
Literally taken referrals from staff engineers and engineering managers but still get ghosted every time
Yeah tbh that's smart
I love seeing the little trophies companies give when you file a patent working for them
Like amazon gives that puzzle piece
pls i hope not
I have a 3 hour video interview for SDE position at microchip next week. Can someone tell me what all I need to prepare for microchip. Will be glad to talk to someone who went through the process.
does Snap not hire new grads? is the Snap Up apprentice program the only way in?
nyc is wild now
always is
Still not as wild as the 90s tho
trueee
Altho weβre getting there
social media is showing us more than what exists
citizen showing every little thing
Lol I refuse to use citizen for that reason
i need to turn off notifs for my school area
My friend used it back on staten and saw the wackiest shit like βman assaulted with wrenchβ
respect
"theres an app for that"
"theres a fist for these nuts bihh"
Ah lmao yeah I remember the craziness when it came out
u dont need the time sink that is social media
im a discord addict actually
no other app
tbh
oh man
popeyes
that was a certified 2019 throwback
the ultimate strat is to just not buy into marketing hype and wait
eh at least its some interaction rather than passive like ig or reddit
im addicted to group chats
i dont really feel anything about mindlessly scrolling social media
As an android user, group chats just don't work lol
It def is one of the best chicken sandwiches you can get for $5
discord is one big group chat
^
Someone legit died for that sandwich
Multiple people actually
popeyes sandwich is a bargain
For people who had Palantir HM round, were you asked leetcode or system design?
A friend of mine is an international student who is a senior studying at my university and is graduating in may. Have any international students been successful is being able to get a job for this upcoming summer after graduation? Our University is located in the United States. He is looking for a Software Engineering full-time Position, he has experince in all languages and is a great candidate with a high gpa. Would appreciate the help π (Don't know if this is the right place/text channel to post this lol)
international here and i can't get a single interview. i have 2 internships (including one at Oracle) and applied to like 100+ positions so far
only saving grace is if you are from a top school w/ internships
oh wow, is it hard to find a company that will sponsor?
the entry level market is REALLY bad right now with all the lay offs and hiring freezes
Yea thats true. its unfortunate that he's been getting "auto-rejected" with no chance to do an OA/Interview cause he has a near perfect gpa (3.9+/4.0) and is knowledgeable and has good experience
there are places hiring; but the market is saturated with recent grads + laid off employees
true
sponsorship is almost impossible unless you're from a top school + internships
Damn, thats unfortunate, I wish you luck and all other recent grads and upcoming grads on job search!
Or if youβre a citizen, start a company and employ your friend
I want to do that, but its not easy to get someone sponsorship lol... that was my first idea lol + I'm a sophomore, so the only time I'll be able to do this is during the summer.
Itβs also expensive to sponsor
EXACTLY
I think it costs the company like 30k
Probably something around that
Which is why only really cash flush companies tend to sponsor
Yep
I don't think you'd need to sponsor immediately
He has an OPT for which he could work as a volunteer (paid or unpaid) for 12 months
Buying some valuable time for looking for more opportunities
I got two emails regarding the final round, one email is vague but the other one says one technical coding question will be asked. So I guess leetcode it is
Hmm, yea that could work.. I will check with him, thanks for letting me know about that, I was thinking there was something like that but wasn't fully sure
Also, there are tons of companies which are more than okay to hire people as volunteers, so he could try applying to those
Companies Like?
Anyone can form an llc. Here in California you can register an llc and the first year you get the annual fee ($800) waived. If heβs graduating in may, heβs not gonna be able to file for this years lottery so he has to wait till next March anyways
And to file the lottery it used to take $10 but now itβs increased to $260 I think? And for the actual h1 application it takes about a $1000
Itβs too complex, better consult an immigration attorney
The only reason I know this is I was looking into sponsoring myself π€£
Rescinded ng != layoffs



Itβs a battle out there for international new grads ngl

Is job market better in EU?
Not all, I think majority of them donβt.
bruh no , we come on loans most of us
some even put their property on loan(its called a collateral loan)
we broke asf here.

What? I am super broke and I had to struggle to pay my tuition. I might be biased because I got 85% scholarship but it is tough out here
Is it USC?
@tardy geode im rooting for you, I hope you get something soon

4 hr apple onsite tmr, shaking and crying
Same
Same
Same
maybe but u also get paid in croissants
Feel like there is a whole spectrum of international students ranging from people who mortgaged their homes to study all the way to people living in luxury apartments driving Maybach's to college. I think I've seen both kinds.
my parents came here with pretty much nothing in the early 90s
i think most indian ints at my college are more like my parents once was
I knew an Indian intl whose parents had a very successful business back home this man legit did not ever think twice before making a purchase
But then hanging out with people like that is so hard because they'll always suggest doing stuff that costs a lot and I still haven't found an effective way to cancel a plan by letting someone know that I can't afford it
You know what I may have dodged a bullet with Amazon
The culture at Amazon is very ableist because asking too many dumb questions or asking for too much help is grounds to get pipped(for context, I'm a slow learner at first and need a bit of time to get acclimated into something)
"raising the bar"

yeah there are some indian students like this . they are spoiled brats .
but most are from mid income backgrounds and humble beginnings .
yeah


same bro 
^
is this a nairong reference
dude is based tbh
anyways I hope he also survives this madness and gets an offer
as of today i now have no interviews scheduled for the future
the wait begins again
yeah
im waiting to hear back from 3 interviews rn but the inbox has been super dry for a while
keep applying
thanks for the advice
my inbox has been wet with rejects only
π
95 days to graduation , and no offers.

same
a lot of other fields spend 6 months after graduating to get their first job
just gotta keep at it
think its harder when you're a timer
for a perm resident or US citizen you can just go back and stay with family
or work any job just to get bills paid
I'm a first gen US citizen and I still don't have an offer after graduating Dec
But I cant just stay with family cause they're abroad
But def not as hard as a timer. You got this
bruh i can't spend 6 months after graduation
i am non us
π
i be waiting for the serotonin boosts from getting an interview invitation (not that I have many)
3 month summer internship in the US , back home like ~2 years of workex(idk if US employers even consider this)
^ adding on to this, if the internship went well, you could reach out to your manager
I did and the company is on a hiring freeze π₯²
android studio is pain
Jetbrains took a massive L when they made this dog turd
in theory it's easy to use
in practice its super finicky, flaky, buggy, and crap just breaks and you have no idea why
Xcode is actually much better
never used xcode b4
but i do know android studio is really bad
they just let this half assed crap be the official tool of android devs
I used android studio before and it was complicated
But at least I did build apps
I like the xml structuring for ui
Drag and drop π«
Unlike Xcode
The xml structure tool is extremely finicky though
Switch to iOS dev 
Have you tried react native or flutter?
like your UI elements collectively go FLYING if you just touch one thing
nah this is for a class
never doing mobile dev again
Keep at it and you can get hired by many many car companies
Like Rivian, lucid, Tesla, Hyundai etc for their infotainment
*in any other economy
Yea I'm a huge car guy
though if I worked at an EV company I wouldn't buy their product
I have a lot of gas car dreams I need to fulfill
First goal is probably gonna be get a hot hatch, like the corolla GR
I hope they make a lot of em in 2025
anyways I get why car infotainment is ass
just working on this makes me want to kms myself
flutter actually pretty nice I liked it ngl
I like Mazda 3 GT hatch
even though people have told me that there are scaling issues
I'm forced to use android studio
this class is taught in android studio so I'm not allowed to deviate
I heard react native is a little better
Once Iβm done with that I eventually need to build an android app
Donβt get too used to it, youβre gonna end up using eclipse if youβre working for a car company anyways π
I'm dead set on backend tbh
I'm already headed to backend dev
Probably will go down this path tbh
Other interest of mine is computer graphics and game engines, but the career outlook for those is kinda narrow
Anyone done Anduril Phone yet?
just took the Sig OA. it was weird how it was only 2 questions for a Code Signal
Search on my Discord isn't working rn
not bad, turbo and AWD
I thought all CodeSignals were 4 questions
some are custom
sig OA is known to be not so hard
then why is there so many rejections from Sig
I got ghosted after the sig OA
anyways codesignal outside of the GCA is a hosting platform for OAs
companies can customize it
People who got rejected from Palantir after the HM round, how many days after did you receive the Candidate Experience Survey?
+1 lol I took sig OA in September and did not hear back
graphics is more research oriented no?
sounds like expedia
yeah kinda, but i think theres some jobs where you can work on graphics without research xp
but that area seems kinda desolate
expedia rejected me tho they were at least nice that way
i got ghosted after OA
anybody in here know japanese?
2 days I think
thanks for the input π
genuinely petrified since it's been more than 3 days and I still don't have any form of update
SIG ghosted almost everyone I know after the OA
Chewy has been ghosting me since Nov/Dec lol
maybe that's a good thing?
I hope so (fingers crossed)
yeah, why
how is the flexport oa?
Trying to learn a good amount before i go end of May/June. Any tips?
I bought Genki and minna no nihongo to self study
Asking recruiter for an update isn't like bad right
i'm bilingual since I was a kid, so don't have many tips around studying it later in life. every kid in japan takes english in school though, so don't be afraid to revert to english vocabulary sometimes.
had my interview on Monday and wanted to follow up on Friday
it's fine, i would probably follow up thursday or earlier though since no one responds on fridays




