2023_grads

[teal jackal]

I heard the clutch is the only thing stopping the Golf R from being able to do a stage 2 tune stock, since it can barely handle the torque from the stock engine

I heard that the type R is a legend with handling though

[ivory stratus]

yeah the wrx can run stage 1 stock and it gets up to around 270/280 hp and 300lb/ft of tq

[teal jackal]

the current gen wrx?

[ivory stratus]

yeeee

they don't have anything more than stage 1 from Cobb but they're going to release sometime soon

[teal jackal]

hmm can it beat the previous gen STI?

[ivory stratus]

did the previous gen sti have a 2.4L or 2.0L

[teal jackal]

honestly kinda goofy they canned the STI

[ivory stratus]

because i think it had a 2.4L which if so could probably match it

[teal jackal]

2.5L

[ivory stratus]

oh ok

yeah it could def come close or match it then

[teal jackal]

all I can say is I really hope 2024 and 2025 will be popping years for the GR corolla

[outer radish]

DAMN THIS IS SOME GOOD CAR TALK FRFR 💯💯

Dsg is the way to go for the vag group products i feel, i heard the clutch engagements and shifts are too numb

I wish they made more awd platforms tho, the current ones are all fwd so maybe a problem in the snow idk

I fucks with that is that the new one or the older gen ones?

[ivory stratus]

the new one

the torque curve is way better

and im getting the sapphire blue so the cladding won't be so obvious

[teal jackal]

I think plastic cladding is a good idea to protect the cars paint and body

[ivory stratus]

no i agree

some people just have gripes about it lol i dont think it looks bad though

like it's a rally car

[teal jackal]

But for cars with cladding you're kinda forced to get it in black unless you're fine with ugly matte plastic sticking out like a sore thumb

[ivory stratus]

honestly seeing it person is way better than pictures

it looks really godo

good*

[teal jackal]

I like what Audi does tbh, the white A4 all road is offered with white cladding

Or is it a cladding delete

Tbh I honestly don't know

Ah it's Just cladding delete

I thought they did white cladding

[teal jackal]

I felt that way about a lot of cars

I haven't seen the new wrx on the road yet

[ivory stratus]

it's pretty sweet

[teal jackal]

Tbh it doesn't look ugly

[ivory stratus]

the back end is kinda meh but the rest of the car is sweet

[teal jackal]

Rear is a bit messy but the front doesn't deviate from the formula at all

[ivory stratus]

yeah exactly

and the cladding on the wheel wells doesnt look bad

[teal jackal]

To say the least could be worse

Imo

[teal jackal]

A good set of winter tires are 80% of making a car driveable in the winter

In new England I think most tires installed on cars are by default winter tires

Or at least decent all seasons, yeah it's all seasons

Tbh snow tires are overkill if you don't go drive while it's actively snowing

[proper fractal]

Does anyone have the link for the Bloomberg new grad discord server? It doesn't exist on #server-links but it seems to exist

Here

[dusky cloak]

How have y'all been applying? There's barley any postings

[proper fractal]

I applied a long time ago

[dusky cloak]

yea I applied like end of summer and beginning of fall

only interviews I've had are palantir and BB

[proper fractal]

same lol

[teal jackal]

Sounds about right

[marsh sand]

How long does it take to hear back after HM at Palantir?

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[nocturne seal]

When was your final

Hm*

[green pendant]

heard anywhere between 5 days to 2 weeks tbh

[manic spear]

do it i just went in on a m3p

[sonic coral]

Bro literally there was a dude this week who’s steering wheel popped off on the highway

Tesla is absolute dogshit quality

[manic spear]

quality complaints are overblown on internet

[sonic coral]

Yeah but they’re severe enough where if you are effected gg lmao

[manic spear]

warranty 🤝

[marsh sand]

today

[sonic coral]

Like bro a 50-60k car should NOT have issues with the fuckin steering wheel falling off

Also there was a Tesla that caught fire too today lmao

[manic spear]

obv youll have isolated occurrences when you ship a million plus cars

but in general not a mass issue

[sonic coral]

Yeah but how do cheap cars not have these kinda issues

Because Tesla is over engineered trash that’s why lol

[manic spear]

they do you just dont hear ab it cause its not interesting to talk ab kia souls lol

[sonic coral]

People’s steering wheels def don’t pop off on Camrys

[manic spear]

im sure theres a few

[sonic coral]

No shot lmao

That’s just not a thing that happens if a car is properly engineered

Like the issues Tesla gets have no right to be there on a car of that price I’m sorry

[manic spear]

https://www.camryforums.com/forum/general-tech-8/steering-failure-while-freeway-53369/

[sonic coral]

German luxury cars have reliability issues with electronics yeah but not to the level of teslas random shit

[manic spear]

not the same but you get the point

dad had plaid for like a year now with 12k miles nothing services

personal anecdote but no complaints thus far

supra needs quart of oil every month

[sonic coral]

Well yeah you’re def gonna have people with no issues but for me it just ain’t worth lol

There’s gonna be way better EVs soon imo

[manic spear]

im sure

[sonic coral]

Tesla’s market share getting ripped apart

[manic spear]

tax credit too juiced rn tho

$9500 rebate in cali

no brainer

[sonic coral]

I mean how much is the monthly

[manic spear]

like a thou with insurance prolly

[sonic coral]

Pre insurance I mean

[manic spear]

750ish

[sonic coral]

Since that’s pretty dependent on a lot of other factors

[manic spear]

with like 23k down including trade

[sonic coral]

You only got 23 for the Supra?

[manic spear]

nah other car

[sonic coral]

Oh lol ok I was gonna say lmao

[manic spear]

‘17 a4

need brakes and oil change i was like fuck it new car over shelling 2k over to audi dealer

[sonic coral]

Tbh I think until the US unfucks the ev infra (aka you’re not in Cali) hybrids are the way to go

[manic spear]

florida infra also cracked

everybody and their mother has a model 3 in jax

worse in bay can’t believe ill have npc mobile

[sonic coral]

My cousin in st pete says it’s decent but the lines can be crazy long

[manic spear]

my company has free charing and nobody shows up to office so thats clutch

[ivory stratus]

I mean evs are cool but just not@super fun to drive compared to manual

If they somehow come out with a manual ev, sure but still

The instant torque is the cool thing

Like dont get me wrong my leaf is slow but the instant torque is super fun

[teal jackal]

I'm cautiously optimistic about EVs

[ivory stratus]

Dude EVs are dope

[teal jackal]

I think there's a lot of potential for really cool diversity with electric cars

[ivory stratus]

Im still debating if i want a model 3 or a wrx lol but mostly thinking wrx

Free charging is dope

[teal jackal]

last call to get a manual trans tbh

dont waste it

thats my take on it

I think tesla is a good value, tempted to get an EV

but my desire for a manual transmission overtakes everything else

[ivory stratus]

That's what im thinking too but Teslas are just so good

[manic spear]

tax credit changes in march only reason i rushed but model 3 refresh in the works

[teal jackal]

true, im pretty impressed by the model 3

have to say that i sometimes go like "man thatd be a nice car to daily"

well tbh the model 3's suspension is very bumpy and not well tuned for comfort

I've been in three before

but in general I'm really interested in getting an EV someday

[ivory stratus]

Yeah the model 3 is 🔥

[manic spear]

wish they kept air suspension from s in the 3

[ivory stratus]

Yeah but it would be more expensive

[teal jackal]

model 3's suspension is super firm and dampers don't absorb bumps well

[ivory stratus]

My thing is idk if i want to not have a manual

[teal jackal]

they don't really absorb bumps at all tbh

if i was gonna get an EV i'd probably get the VW ID4

but id have to test drive it first

[teal jackal]

my personal take is that we have time to get a tesla in 2030, but for traditional manual sports cars we're in endgame

i wonder if the model s air suspension is any good

i heard air suspension can be costly

[ivory stratus]

Trust me it is

[teal jackal]

Meta?

[ivory stratus]

Theyre not even hiring i thought

[whole berry]

[ivory stratus]

Link?

[teal jackal]

ohhhhh

yeah I heard they opened HC for AI/ML roles

Meta stock is recovering rn

the company is getting its shit together slowly

do u have prior MLE experience?

do u have good ML projects

thats not bad

gl

I know nothing about MLE

however

[green pendant]

Return offer coming soon inshallah

[fossil jewel]

[peak pike]

is a company asking for references after an interview a good sign

[grizzled bronze]

Yes

Doesn't necessarily mean you're getting an offer, but it's a good sign

[ivory stratus]

Does anybody have any links for remote openings? Been scouring but no luck

[dawn sequoia]

https://remote.co/

[jovial latch]

Dead ass?

[teal jackal]

idk in actuality lawl

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural when does AMEX 2024 new grad open up?

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural when does AMEX 2024 new grad open up?

[pulsar mural]

top 30 people
#1: Juda
its only juda

[fossil jewel]

answer the question

did amex open for this year?

[west egret]

@pulsar mural AMEX referral?

[ivory stratus]

@pulsar mural AMEX referral?

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural AMEX referral?

[west egret]

while True:
  print("@yahkuna Matada (yahkub simp) AMEX referral?")

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural AMEX referral?

[fossil jewel]

while True:
print("@pulsar mural replies ")
print("@pulsar mural replies ")

[livid yew]

dummy cant use markdown

[grizzled bronze]

@livid yew https://careers.microsoft.com/us/en/job/1513512/Software-Engineer-2

[fossil jewel]

no

i want

to put emojis

they're not gona work in markdown dummy

[livid yew]

applied

[nocturne oriole]

Can u make a tier list for server users

Pls put me and u at the top

I dont care where everyone else goes

[fossil jewel]

yak is bottom 100

[reef spade]

Hey, buddies. Are there any positions of DS/ML for new master grads? Or how can I find the links for applying for those positions effectively?

[grizzled bronze]

Check out Capital One's new Machine Learning program https://www.capitalonecareers.com/job/mclean/machine-learning-development-program-associate-2023/31238/42512974048

[ivory stratus]

If only it was remote

Damn

[neon perch]

[outer radish]

yeah i agree, im now thinking i'd prob like that crazy grip the awd system would have if they slapped it on one of the n models

cause even these mk 7.5 golf r's are still mad expensive for what they are

[ivory stratus]

Golf Rs aint it right now

Not worth

[teal jackal]

why not?

I'm really impressed by the Golf R IMO, best powertrain of the hot hatch segment

especially now that the civic type r is only 2k away

[outer radish]

the driving dynamics seem sick but i cant get over that hello world ui system they have

[ivory stratus]

Oh nvm i was thinking old gen

Didnt realize they bumped to over 300hp

[outer radish]

touch buttons for everything in a country where I wear gloves like 8 months out of the year

yeah its wild now

idk the old ones with the dsg could be pretty dirty

[ivory stratus]

Yeah that's good. They needed to put out more power at that price point

[teal jackal]

I think the problem with the golf r is that the driving experience is apparently pretty numbed down compared to its competition

The DSG + Golf R combo competes with the tier above, even holding its ground with the A45

[ivory stratus]

Yeah def

It caters to more "mature audiences"

[teal jackal]

there's already a 15lb/ft performance penalty for the golf R manual

horsepower consistent, but torque gets fucked a bit

with a clutch swap you can make a lot more out of it

But the high variability with manual car acceleration times is because of driver skill

[outer radish]

yeah but thats an additional like 2- 4 k of parts and labour on top of the cost

[teal jackal]

a dogshit driver is gonna take 1.5secs more than a skilled drag racer

[outer radish]

plus i heard the manual's shift engagement and clutch feel numb too idek how to address that

[teal jackal]

Yeah, I heard that too. Seems like a car that is fast and a performance beast on paper

at the cost of driver engagement

[outer radish]

hyundai's n cars all the way

thats my next whip

[teal jackal]

I'm seriously mulling the Elantra N too

[outer radish]

assuming my ass can be employed my grad date in may smfh

[teal jackal]

it's the best value of all the hot hatches

good luck m8

I fr hope u do

[outer radish]

thanks fam

grinding

[teal jackal]

Elantra N is the best value, occupies a middle ground market between the civic si and type r

price wise closer to the si

but performance wise closer to the type r

[outer radish]

i just drove a rental elantra and its super spacious inside too

yeah thats facts

im thinking more kona n for the ground clearance

[teal jackal]

you wanna try to get a corolla gr?

[ivory stratus]

Idk if elantra N counts as hot hatch

[teal jackal]

When I buy a car I'm gonna still try to spam every toyota dealer in a 300 mile radius in hopes to get a corolla GR

[outer radish]

would want to if they weren't marked up past beemers

[teal jackal]

markups gonna kill it like the focus rs got killed

apparently dealers were nasty with the markups on those too

[outer radish]

yeah i think they were tryna off load it at like 52k + on Bring a Trailer

[teal jackal]

someone tried to flip the corolla gr and "only" got $49k from it

on cars and bids

[ivory stratus]

Dude so dumb

There needs to be legislature on scalping practices

[teal jackal]

LOL i wish but how sports cars have become unobtainium doesn't affect 97% of the country

[ivory stratus]

I know

But still with other goods

GPUs, consoles, etc.

[teal jackal]

true

seems hella complex as an issue

[ivory stratus]

Tickets

[sonic coral]

Luckily the supply for these is increasing enough to the point that scalpers are starting to get fucked

[ivory stratus]

Yeah but still

[teal jackal]

fuck every civic type r near seattle either has no price, or is $60k

[ivory stratus]

That's why im going for wrx lol

I can find one for MSRP

[teal jackal]

and when I say near I mean within a 500 mile radius

little road trip to oklahoma to buy my dream car eh

[ivory stratus]

If i was single and had no pets i would get a gr86

[teal jackal]

"but it technically has 4 seats"

Elantra N can be found EVERYWHERE for MSRP

[ivory stratus]

I asked my gf about one and she said "no it's impractical"

[teal jackal]

wow zero markups

[ivory stratus]

Yup lol

[teal jackal]

all automatics tho but I'll probably custom order a manual if I hve to

[ivory stratus]

Ive found plenty of manuals on island

[teal jackal]

for the elantra n?

[ivory stratus]

Most actually sold here are manual

Oh no the wrx

I wouldnt mind an elantra n but idk

I like the looks of the veloster n more

[teal jackal]

the WRX is p good, only one in the segment to have awd

[ivory stratus]

Oh bruh the elantra n is fwd

Dumb lol

[teal jackal]

Yep

[outer radish]

^^^

wheel hop and torque steer 4 dayz

[teal jackal]

Have to admit the performance advantage of awd is objective

I think Honda is the one who made the civic type r handle decently with just fwd

[ivory stratus]

Yup. Had this with my Focus ST

[teal jackal]

I heard people talk fondly of the focus and fiesta st

[ivory stratus]

Oh no

They both have horrible wheel hop

[outer radish]

yeah my mazda 3 2.5L has this too and it only has like 182 hp

[ivory stratus]

If you go aftermarket motor mounts, it helps but didn't cure it

[ivory stratus]

I drove my friends Mazda 3 2.5L and same thing

[teal jackal]

That sucks

HOLY

THERE IS A NEW CIVIC TYPE R AT MSRP IN NORTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE

[graceful kelp]

buy in canada and export it

[manic spear]

civic si’s were marked up 8k in bay area not too long ago

[wicked musk]

anyone interviewed at tesla or works at tesla as a newgrad swe?

[shut crescent]

2018 wrx limited cvt's were going for 28-30k was about to sell mine cuz i bought it in 2018 for 36k fully warranty'd lol

[nocturne oriole]

[ivory stratus]

that's cause it's cvt lmao

[shut crescent]

yeah but 28-30k for it is crazy still..

i think i can still sell it for like 26k though, it only has 31k miles right now

which i might do as soon as i secure this full time role and buy a model y lol

[dawn sequoia]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/angeloibarrola_layoffs-resources-activity-7023693980366225408-KE3u?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

[deep wasp]

So I’m an intern at a large retail company

Our company just acquired a company a few months ago, and apparently they had a contract with datadog

So a sales rep from datadog hits me up on linkedin to schedule a pitch meeting with me, for my company

[livid yew]

[deep wasp]

Why me??????? I’m so not qualified to represent my company, and I let her know that

[livid yew]

Lol

[deep wasp]

But she still wanted to do the meeting - and hey - not going to complain about making connections with someone at a company I would want to work for

[late kestrel]

[late kestrel]

i had this happen during my internship last summer but with some VP at grafana

[deep wasp]

Lol. I thought my manager was going to be upset that I had the meeting and didn’t tell them until after, but she just said ‘thanks for letting us know, will look into it’

[green pendant]

absolutely tbh use this as a networking opportunity

making big moves lol

[deep wasp]

My thoughts exactly

[left shoal]

thoughts on re-applying for a company that rejected me 4 months ago? but is still accepting applications?

[dusky lark]

I just did apply after 3 months they sent a mail about a minimum 6 month cooldown

So yea Don't

[rain patio]

doesn't hurt

ive reapplied to shit before and got interview after the 2nd apply

i think once i sent in 8 apps before getting an interview

fuck the haters

[left shoal]

ah fair, as long as they don't blacklist me or some shite

[dusky lark]

Yea they probably won't blacklist you
But for some companies there's a hard minimum

[teal jackal]

Kid: My dad is high
Teacher: it's tall not high
The dad: hiring bar in 2023

[jovial latch]

Guys this shit is breaking me
Literally had a dream that I got an email bout being rejected from a company I actually have a chance in

This shit is in my subconscious

[young peak]

I used to dream that I was getting a tour before final interviews at a company I really wanted. They'd verbally abuse me during the interview, then afterwards they'd choose some complete degen over me and that's when I'd wake up

Good times

[grizzled bronze]

What if it worked on the 13th try

[young peak]

Simps be like

[livid yew]

Catmonch needs to be top used emote

[last summit]

you miss every shot you don’t take

[sonic coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068318799893372958/1066097230299287572.gif

[slow owl]

anyone been to CS or engineering only career fairs? what's the dress code? I plan on dressing business professional but wondering if its overkill

also half of these companies arent even hiring new grads but my advisor said u can finesse a full time opportunity if they like u

[sonic coral]

Business casual more like

[rain patio]

just ask

for us it was full formal attire

if you didn't have a suit you couldn't get in

• dress shoes

[slow owl]

thanks all, i'll probably bring a suit jacket to put on just in case

[jovial latch]

Ya I feel this, fuckin talked to like 10 companies in my colleges last career fair, gave resumes, got contacts, applied online, didn't get anything from a single one

Bastards

[sonic coral]

I’d keep it business casual for career fairs just because you wanna look decent for finance

[jovial latch]

My college career fairs were always business formal

[jovial latch]

i think the worst part was that i was waiting outside for like 2 hours cause the line to get in was so huge

first time?

[rain patio]

$5 is a lot in this recession

[jovial latch]

yea a couple of companies have the audacity to reject you and then ask for feedback through a survey

canonical also asked for feedback on their interview process

mind you i completely forgot about all those written ass questions

cause well, fuck that

faang was always overrated anyway
company rep is whatever, want that TC and fuckin doing relevant stuff

no

i mean well, if you want

im just completely jaded to these things

is meta even desirable? theyre a time bomb cause zucks an idiot

fair

'do i trust meta to not look at my survey results as a factor for my application'

i mean this is meta we're talking about

one of the least trustworthy tech companies lol

well this is subtle

[slow owl]

why is Meta recruiting so insecure

[jovial latch]

because they're led by a moron who is gonna run the company into the ground

[slow owl]

tru

[jovial latch]

he could have just stayed on normal ass vr/ar shit but no we have to make this metaverse that no one wants happen

sunk cost fallacy for him at this point, hes put billions into it

[slow owl]

dude really became the villain from ready player one

[jovial latch]

he already was tbh but ya

mind you the book is way more fucked up than the speilberg movie lol

but yea he coulda just stayed with makin vr games or something, vr games i think are cool

[slow owl]

i read the book but dont remember much tbh the 80s references were too much

[jovial latch]

dont really remember much either, but i do remember the main character being more pathetic and the bad guys literally throwing someone out of a window russian style while he was in the vr game

[slow owl]

oh yeah MC was pretty whiny

[rain patio]

aint no way lmfao

[jovial latch]

honestly though its a shame meta bought oculus, their products are good but its all tainted cause its under the zuck now

never really got into vr myself but psvr2 is honestly looking pretty cool rn ngl

[rain patio]

Stripe
Google
Meta
Microsoft
Amazon

[jovial latch]

i mean if you're talking equivalent offers, id probably go by what comapny is the most stable lol

[rain patio]

i read that as entry level employee you're interested in 😳

[rain patio]

which is?

haven't they all done layoffs

[jovial latch]

im not very knowledgable on this myself but hasnt meta lost billions cause zuck is trying to make metaverse happen

theyre bleeding money i thought

[ivory stratus]

wait what company is this for?

@cedar nebula

[chilly burrow]

I got dis 2 lol

[ivory stratus]

wait what role

link pls

[jovial latch]

closed last week

[ivory stratus]

oh dang lol

[jovial latch]

i checked

[chilly burrow]

None lol

[jovial latch]

and i raged

[ivory stratus]

dont care about ML

dont have qualifications anyway

[chilly burrow]

I didn't apply to anything

So idk y i got it

Mayb from last yr?

R they even hiring this yr?

For ng?

[rain patio]

doubt

[tardy geode]

just had my first recruiter call , one of the senior most engineers had reached out to me and asked me to apply . then on the recruiter call the dude says after hearing my graduation date that we gotta fill this in a month or so , so contact me when you near graduation 😭 this was a ray of hope for me . feel like crying . i was prepping so bad for it

[rain patio]

just say you can work after school 💀

[jovial latch]

could always try and start the job early while you're taking classes

[rain patio]

u a grad student?

[jovial latch]

meta ml app closed last week anyways

[rain patio]

oh cool

didn't know that was a thing

[tardy geode]

bro i sad that but they need someone to start right away

in a month or so

that ain't possible for me , as i am still studying

[tardy geode]

i am international , i can't do that.

its a local startup

this is ridiculous honestly , i had clearly written in my linkedin headline too and also on my resume FFS

[jovial latch]

recruiters would be mad if they could read

[tardy geode]

i am having a headache rn tbh

i was like in all this midst of chaos this was my only chance , even tho it was a recruiter screen i had been preping since that dude reached me out like 4-5 days back

[timber rock]

wtf

[tardy geode]

this is what the EM(yes eng manager had reached out) had inmailed me .

this was a golden chance ffs , all i have been is getting rejects or getting ghosted . its the worst time to graduate being an international student. sometimes its demotivating af

[jovial latch]

sounds like a external recruiter tbh with how that shits worded

[tardy geode]

so this local startup comes under a big tech ( i don't want to name)

[tardy geode]

this wasn't a recruiter this was the Group EM of that local startup , he arranged a call with the recruiter of that big tech (since that startup is a part of that big tech)

[jovial latch]

damn bro

[tardy geode]

should i tell that em about this ?

like the talk?

[green pendant]

Is Roblox L1 basically <1 yoe?

[grizzled bronze]

Can't hurt to confirm with them on this

[frank wedge]

@dusty basin

[dusty basin]

i don't want to take that cognitive assessment

pain

[fossil jewel]

i agree with this, stripe and goog are nice

[tardy geode]

i mean the dude who reached out to me

the dude is the group EM

[fossil jewel]

reach out to him and let him know of the situation

[lone rapids]

U work at roblox?

[teal jackal]

you officailly started bro?

[lone rapids]

My final at roblox in november for new grad was cancelled due to head count full. Is that still the case?

[chilly burrow]

imo switch meta and msft

[rain patio]

why

[chilly burrow]

better wlb, culture, and I'm more bullish on dem dan meta

[fossil jewel]

meta has zuck

also msft acquiring chatgpt might open up more NLP stuff no?

[chilly burrow]

theyre not acquiring it

[green pendant]

Meta wlb isn't bad though

[chilly burrow]

at least not atm

[ivory stratus]

the amount of jobs that microsoft will create for chatgpt support

[green pendant]

Like sure in this environment everything is shit

[chilly burrow]

generally it is worse dan msft

[green pendant]

But in general meta has pretty good wlb

[fossil jewel]

they didnt buy it recently?

[chilly burrow]

at least according 2 person anecdotes ive heard and blind

[ivory stratus]

yeah ive heard great things about meta

[chilly burrow]

not afaik

[green pendant]

Haven't been at msft but I'd tend to disagree

[ivory stratus]

i heard msft has best wlb of top tech

[chilly burrow]

idk blind says otherwise

[ivory stratus]

well google does too

[chilly burrow]

im not sayin meta is bad

[ivory stratus]

my friend works maybe 20-30 hours a week tops at goog

[chilly burrow]

just sayin msft is better

[green pendant]

Sure yeah I meant meta and msft comparison head to head is msft

But yeah objectively meta isn't bad

Plus meta pays more

[ivory stratus]

yeah but ill take the tc of meta over msft

[green pendant]

Yeah exactly meta pay is insane

And perks too

[ivory stratus]

like the wlb is marginally better at meta

[green pendant]

Jesus the food was so good

[chilly burrow]

dats wat im comparing tho

[ivory stratus]

pay at msft is not competitive

[green pendant]

Apologies I misread lol

[ivory stratus]

until you get later on in career and want to stay at a company

[chilly burrow]

tbh idc abt pay after im making 150k+

after dat i rather optimize for wlb

unless i rlly care abt da company or smth

[green pendant]

Meta is a good place to start career imo. Rise quickly up the ranks and get a 400k TC and then rest and vest elsewhere

Of course this is pre 2021 lol now you'd be lucky to have a job

[chilly burrow]

mayb 4 u 😃

[green pendant]

Agreed. Supporting a family/child is hella expensive.

Low key surprised my parents did it for me

[frank wedge]

After tax? Or before tax

Wtf

Maybe he commutes via helicopter

[chilly burrow]

u dont understand da avg salary in seattle is 200k

so ur actually belo avg

/s

ppl complainin on makin 100k+ after takes as a new grad r wild 2 me

[west egret]

CSCareer’s not going far 🤡

[ivory stratus]

yeah but that issue will be fixed soon

[timber rock]

cscd users are certainly not known for being in touch with salaries

[chilly burrow]

i can understand dat

[timber rock]

while back there was a guy saying you have to budget to live in NYC below 250k

[chilly burrow]

but i doubt da ppl here hav dose probs

[west egret]

People get too busy comparing themselves to the top 1%

[frank wedge]

Well he has more dependents but lol

[west egret]

While walking to work, homeless people will see our BB backpacks and feel like they need to give us money

[frank wedge]

Literally maxing out

[fossil jewel]

you get tax return money

and if you're married you save more

[chilly burrow]

So 6200 a month?

Imo dats pretty good

[west egret]

You don’t get money back from doing 401k contributions but traditional 401k contributions will reduced your taxable income…which means you’ll be taxed less.

In this economy wouldn’t hurt to save more tbh

[hasty birch]

You can do a ladder conversion

[autumn ridge]

I think anything over 15% of gross pay into retirement is excessive

Also shoutout to BB for giving another 20k into your 401k every year if you max it out

I've seen a good amount in brooklyn

[west egret]

Where is this from?

[autumn ridge]

looking for 2 bed rooms in brookyln and seen a bunch in low 4s

[autumn ridge]

Their 401k match. They match 7% of your salary 1:1 and 50% to 15% which works out to just a full 20k match if you max your 401k

[west egret]

Also what do you mean by retirement? What else would you do with the excess money?

[autumn ridge]

Spend it on your life. Set up 6 months of emergency funds, 15% to retirment and then just bucket the rest into all your expense categories

Oh damn did I not read the fine print and their is a cap

[frank wedge]

https://codesignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/University-Ranking-Report-2022-CodeSignal.pdf

[west egret]

I'd rather just put extra $ into a brokerage with ETFs tbh because I don't plan to have crazy expenses.

Yeah that's what I read it as. 20k extra seems too good to be true lol

[autumn ridge]

yeah their is it's 7700 which is still really nice

I'm an idiot lol

[frank wedge]

Based on 3% dividend?

[tardy geode]

can someone explain what is 401k?

[hasty birch]

Tax advantaged account

[tardy geode]

ohhh

so you get that when you retire?

like whatever the amount

[west egret]

A retirement account linked to your employment. Which means you can only make contributions to it out of your paycheck while you're employed.

[autumn ridge]

it's investing but the money you contribute is deducted from your tax home pay. So if you make 100k and put 10k into 401k taxable income is 90k also you can't withdraw it before you are 60 without penalities

[west egret]

59.5 to be exact

which is weird

lol

[autumn ridge]

I feel like the FIRE movement is a scam

Like what are you going to do all day

It's just FI at that point

[west egret]

I think the idea is that retirement isn't exactly you quit your job completely

More like you can afford to do what you want. And if you get fired it doesn't really matter because you're financially okay.

[rain patio]

there's different types of fire, lean fire, fat fire, ....

[autumn ridge]

They better have a good job or you have family close by bc child care is like 35k a year per kid

Yeah agreed but also don't be a weirdo with saving money. Idk why but it seems somewhat popular among new grads. Like if your making 200k out of school you are going to be fine. Save a reasonable amount for retirement but live your life at the same time.

[west egret]

Not maxing 401k is like losing out on TC

I'm sure entire families get by on less than 50% of that in NYC

you'll be fine

[autumn ridge]

The only downside of 250k in NYC from what I have looked at is you have to have a 20 min+ communte bc manahattan is too expensive

Clarify 2 bed room

[west egret]

What about Bay Area(SF specifically)?

[autumn ridge]

I haven't like scoured but really haven't seen anything

How do you think i got to 250k lol

Do they really pay that much?>

fuck me for bombing the final

[ivory stratus]

can be higher than 245k too

[autumn ridge]

is that recurring or just first year?

Oh okay I feel less bad now

[west egret]

@autumn ridge you're going to Snap right? You can't be down that much after including taxes.

[autumn ridge]

I haven't decided

[ivory stratus]

rip folks at meta

[autumn ridge]

Dude I knew a lot of people that joined Snap at 80 and it went all the way down to 8 at one point lol

[west egret]

RIP ppl in 2023

[static moth]

hi nyc homies when are u guys gonna start looking for apartments

[west egret]

hello ❤️

And I'm gonna start about a month before moving in.

[ivory stratus]

good idea lol

[static moth]

ah okay, is like 2.5k/month possible for a non shitter of a apartment lmfao

[autumn ridge]

you have too especially if you've gotten a couple promotions

[ivory stratus]

why?

[static moth]

i have 0 clue lmao i have not put any thought into where in nyc

[autumn ridge]

Like it can be 75% of your total compensation

[ivory stratus]

idk. plenty of millionaires have hella money in stock

[static moth]

i am canadian so know next to nothing about nyc in terms of locations and stuff

[ivory stratus]

oh yeah idk

makes no sense

i guess cause it's still "guaranteed income"

[static moth]

ahhhhhhh

[ivory stratus]

buti dk

makes no sense

[west egret]

2.5k for studio isn't bad tbh

[static moth]

ya it's in the new york times building

[west egret]

I'd jump on that quick if I saw it

@static moth when you start?

[static moth]

early july 🙂

[autumn ridge]

Is it as bad as it looks right now for new grads or people < 1 year exp that got laid off? Who is even still hiring

[static moth]

hbu guys

nyc gangggg

[ivory stratus]

i wouldnt think so

[static moth]

let's do a server FT nyc meet up 🙂

[ivory stratus]

i feel like everyone knows the current economic climate

[faint igloo]

nyc rent always baffles me

[ivory stratus]

i mean it is the most desirable place to live in US

"most desirable"

[west egret]

ahh nice I start in June

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[static moth]

oh jeeeez

[faint igloo]

lol

[ivory stratus]

yeah but at least they had some time at a job

and money

lol

im lucky if i get an offer for $70k at this point

yeeee

[faint igloo]

chatgpt makes me worried for the future

[dawn sequoia]

tbh id rather be a 2022 grad that got laid off than the current streak of unemployment from my grad in june 2022 to now

[jovial latch]

better that then no job ever lol

[dawn sequoia]

and a lot of new grad positions i see say they only want 2023 grads

[jovial latch]

like 2022 grads who got laid off still got a way better deal than us 2023 grads

[dawn sequoia]

so then im effed again

[ivory stratus]

i mean

new grad will open up again for 2024

[faint igloo]

true at least theres a chance u didnt get laid off as well i guess

[ivory stratus]

and most companies will let us apply

hope is not lost

[dawn sequoia]

depends how long they worked imo. if they worked for like a few months, then they prob arent that better off

[ivory stratus]

im just hoping that after all these layoffs that companies will hire a good amount of new grads next recruiting cycle

[jade scarab]

lol

[jovial latch]

nah, severance, work experience, being looked at as an actual engineer and not automatically rejected cause you dont have any non internship experience

[dawn sequoia]

maybe? but i def see required grad ranges in some job postings

[jovial latch]

makes enough of a difference id think

[dawn sequoia]

i suppose

[jovial latch]

oh lawd

[autumn ridge]

gl if you like

[green pendant]

Yeah I think 300-350 is more reasonable

[ivory stratus]

Dude they make bank

[gritty raptor]

Anyone who had the Flexport final recently? How was it?

[fossil jewel]

the bar to get the job and security isnt super high

obv you need US citizenship

[ivory stratus]

I know someone who makes 180k all cash as new grad as a contractor

[outer radish]

can anyone swing a referral to chewy

tryna get some primo feed for my future k9

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

I am the full google simp, Pixel 7, Pixel Buds, Pixel Watch, multiple google homes

but still no interview with G

[green pendant]

Did you mention that in your application?

[livid yew]

I did 😂

But also they can see that tbh

[rain patio]

they spied on you through all your devices and deemed your search history and behavior unworthy

[livid yew]

Oh

Fair enough

[green pendant]

Maybe you exhibited infidelity by googling iphone 15

Or maybe you got caught thirst following Tim cook

[tardy geode]

doordash laid off 1250 employees wtf 💀

[tardy geode]

you will interview with ftx

[fossil jewel]

another layoff?

or was that the previous one?

i remember going to their recruiting event in september and all the recruiters from there also got laid off

[rain patio]

good

[fossil jewel]

of that was the november number

i remember folks mentioning their hard OA

nice thing about this site is they they have job listings

defo give it a look

[tardy geode]

prayge ain't working smh

[fossil jewel]

[tardy geode]

this ain;t working

[fossil jewel]

hang in there

[tardy geode]

doing that

😢

just preping and preping

[fossil jewel]

the EM reaching out, even if it didnt work out, is sign that its not your skill

for more chances like this for y'all

[tardy geode]

that was the most positive thing of this szn , ngl

for me

[tardy geode]

[willow marsh]

Grind leetcode -> unemployed pipeline confirmed 2023

[tardy geode]

leetcode alone is not gonna do anything in this economy , you got to have real dev skills i feel

[wary totem]

doordash lc rounds are all brutal

[tardy geode]

yea

my friend had hard dp's

[compact vortex]

his linkedin said he worked till jan 2023 but he also canadian so that might be it

[wary totem]

OA was 2 lc hards, and my interviews were 2 lc hards with fairly tricky follow ups

[tardy geode]

but dude was cracked at LC

[wary totem]

interview was 1 dp 1 union find

tfw passed it and they cancelled my behavioral by laying everyone off smh

[tardy geode]

are they interviewers cracked at LC or something ?

[willow marsh]

If someone has a new grad offer lined up is it beneficial to keep sharp on leetcode

[wary totem]

the interviewers seemed very smart in general, not in just lc

[willow marsh]

Like how long is it beneficial to keep sharp

[tardy geode]

life long

[wary totem]

my second hour was a cs phd who went biotech startup -> dd

[tardy geode]

if you wanna stay in SWE

[willow marsh]

Yeah stay in SWE

[tardy geode]

yes then sadly lifelong

[willow marsh]

Even 10 years after in industry, still sweat LC?

[tardy geode]

yeah who knows when you will get laid off

i mean if they go into tech roles

like staff

and all

not for EM and all

[tardy geode]

i think LC culture would tone down after this break in economy

[willow marsh]

Agreed

[tardy geode]

i know people who are extremely good at LC but their swe skills are jackshit . i mean no coding standards , unaware of best practices etc

and when you work in a team those skills eventually matter , during my internship i had a fellow intern who had solved around 1k lc's including 150 hards but he was utterly bad at writing production level code .

[west egret]

That seems reasonable for NG tbh

[gray dagger]

Take homes are just lc in disguise

[tardy geode]

take homes are just free work that companies give out

i was asked to make a todolist in a 45 min tech interview for full stack swe intern at mckinsey.

and post that there was just one behavioral with HM

[gray dagger]

I had to write a query optimized for neeva

Interview went amazing and received a reject the following day with no explanation as to why

[tardy geode]

[gray dagger]

Hashmap with keys as tasks and values are done or not done lmao

Of course gotta use classes and stuff but that’s the low level

[teal jackal]

I used a huawei phone in high school and my recruitment letter from the china ministry of state security never came either

[tardy geode]

react

[gray dagger]

Oh shit

[tardy geode]

yeah

[gray dagger]

I hate react

[tardy geode]

lol

[gray dagger]

Usestate and hooks can go fuck themselves

Especially router

[tardy geode]

bruh its easy and interesting

[teal jackal]

Paid just to get to final round?

I'll keep in touch with u abt the referral in 2 years

[gray dagger]

Vanilla js (html css bootstrap) > vuejs > everything else

[wary totem]

2033 interviews:
map 🇽
transformer encoder ✅

[tardy geode]

vanilla js hardly anyone cares these days

i guess

[gray dagger]

Vanilla js great with jquery tho

[tardy geode]

jquery 💀

[gray dagger]

But lately I’ve been getting into tailwind

It’s amazing

[tardy geode]

tailwind is nice

[gray dagger]

But daisy ui sucks

It’s not responsive

Projects > leetcode for me at least

[hasty birch]

Absolute shocker I tell you, couldn’t have seen this coming

I completely forgot about snap earnings tbh, would’ve loaded up on puts otherwise

[teal jackal]

Yeah I already have an offer atm but for job hop I'd love to consider roblox

[chilly burrow]

vanilla js is gr8

as long as ur not tryna build a complex webapp

then it becomes hellish

[green pendant]

I'll get back to you in a year for L1 pls hang tight till then thanks

[chilly burrow]

imagine tryna make smth like Figma or Canva without a framework

most of the companies that do hire without leetcode r mostly looking for more experienced devs and arent willing to take on new grads

tbh there isnt a rlly good alternative for screening out incompetent new grads other than leetcode

[split plaza]

or at least one that scales effectively to the thousands of new grads each year

[green pendant]

that's the real problem. stuff like take home tests take so much more time to sift through and check than a simple hackerrank OA.

[west egret]

^ For both employers and applicants

[jovial latch]

tbh yea i feel like my frustration is geared towards every twat who thought they could do cs cause 'ez money' and are complete idiots, but then its cause of them i gotta do all these leetcodes

thats what every company wants, infinite labor pool

'everyone should code'

blegh

[green pendant]

yeah. I am so tired of companies thinking that applicant time is worthless

recently had a company tell me they have a interview process which is 5 rounds but each round is on a different day/time like wtf

[jovial latch]

i got annoyed when my college redid their cs curriculum and made it easier lol

wasnt even that bad to begin with

[teal jackal]

imo i dont think leetcode is that unfair as a hiring metric
I think those who want a good job should do their due diligence to study

[jovial latch]

my issue with leetcode is that i get tested on random ass puzzle shit and not stuff youd do at an actual job and those concepts

though i will admit easy leetcodes are good at filtering out people who actually have no coding capacity

[rain patio]

pretty sure most people can handle a junior dev role

[chilly burrow]

Idt ds&a is bad as long as it's testing fundamentals

[green pendant]

what about oop based problems though

like that's closer in some ways to what you would do irl

[chilly burrow]

Companies shouldn't expect ppl to kno som exotic algo

[jovial latch]

oop is fine, though leetcodes dont really go into it that much

[tardy geode]

THIS THIS

[green pendant]

also system design but maybe that's unrealistic at a new grad level

[teal jackal]

I consider the hiring bar an arms race tbh
The more tryhards enter the job pool, the harder the hiring bar has to get if headcount can't match the size of the candidate pool

[chilly burrow]

You'd b surprised how many cs grads struggle with lc easies

[teal jackal]

I feel like leetcode hiring bars are starting to get out of hand because of how cutthroat shits gotten

[jovial latch]

which is why i say lc easies are fine
anything above i just think is arbitary and irrelevant to ones job performance

lc easy to filter out morons and then ask some relevant stuff like oop or whatever

[chilly burrow]

I disagree tbh, i feel like mediums are good filters as well

[teal jackal]

but then too many people can answer trivia

[rain patio]

my point is more if it was just stuff related to the actual job, there'd be almost no filter and it'd be like finance hiring where they pick out the top schools and top gpas first

[jovial latch]

a couple perhaps, i dont think all lc mediums are equal

still think my point stands

[teal jackal]

I'd say that faang tier should cap their leetcode difficulty to low-hards and high-mediums

[chilly burrow]

Yea i agree

[jovial latch]

hehe

ah

you know its frustrating when you've literally wrote code thats saved the company a fuck ton of time and you clearly know how to function in a software engineering team but then heres this random ass leetcode

annoying i guess

i mean im just happy i got a codesignal score of 841 some months ago and i wont have to worry about that a while

god knows how many times i used it

[teal jackal]

I'd say that leetcode is important to keep the hiring bar more meritocratic

Purely based on subjective qualities: nepotism and school prestige filter go brr

[rain patio]

you have to stand out somehow

[teal jackal]

It's the least bad option tbh

[jovial latch]

i feel leetcodes are good at weeding out the incompetent idiots

but then you have to go in and actually ask relevant technical questions

[rain patio]

i prefer leetcode to them expecting you to perform at a senior level as a junior dev or some metric you cant control like school

[jovial latch]

well thats just not a good company or team

id think people know what theyre getting with junior devs

but what do i know

[rain patio]

well you need something to filter out tons of people is my point

[teal jackal]

Many unicorns are asking sysdesign on top of harder leaning medium LC now

As a matter of fact

Because they realize they need to ask "practical" stuff

As well as networks and systems trivia

[rain patio]

otherwise if there's 10000 cs grads and i only need 5 then why tf would i test on basic OOP? ill just take the kids whove been programming their whole lives, shipped shit, and can operate at a senior level

theres bound to be those kids

[chilly burrow]

Ye i was asked much more practical stuff + lc when I interviewed at some Unicorns

Kinda refreshing compared to the big tech that just ask straight leetcode

[jovial latch]

Siemens asked a lot of sys design, l3 grilled me on a lot of coding concepts

Good shit

Really hoping I get that l3 offer

Did mostly good on the technical shit

[fossil jewel]

[jovial latch]

Even though I hate c++

[rain patio]

c++ is goated wym

though

[teal jackal]

Good luck mate

[jovial latch]

I'm more of a high level ML python kinda guy
But hey, you gotta take anything

And that includes defense contractors who do low level shit

Which I don't enjoy

[teal jackal]

Anyways C++ is good since if you're good at c++ you can be good at any lang

[rain patio]

i think the c++ roles are cool bcz if you're serious you'd also learn more about os, networking, comp arch, etc

shit u mightve had a taste of during uni

[teal jackal]

For sure

C++ is a good skill

[jovial latch]

I don't enjoy low level stuff like that, always been more of a data engineer ML person, but I can work in most things

[rain patio]

cool

i cant appreciate ML stuff

minus the math

the coding feels too abstracted for me

[fossil jewel]

all about being adaptable in here

[jovial latch]

Yea that's the whole thing
Did a of DevOps shit, some backend, front end, database shit, Salesforce, blah blah

Whole buncha random things

[teal jackal]

Hmm yeah C++ is a pretty big detour from writing algos in python

Yeah I get your concern

[jovial latch]

Takes me a hot minute to mentally switch languages but I can answer most c++ technical questions at a high level

[rain patio]

got any examples?

they can go p deep

[jovial latch]

Keywords, references, oop, structs, memory leakage, blah blah

I know that stuff

[rain patio]

yeah thats pretty surface level id say

[jovial latch]

Good enough for new grad roles
I try to highlight that I can pick things up fast and in well rounded

Which is true and what companies like to here

[rain patio]

and showing interest XD

[jovial latch]

None of my work experience went low level though so low level roles are a weak point all things considered

[rain patio]

i know some people who worked in defense and they never had to dive deep

1-2 YOE

chill ass wlb

[tardy geode]

learn git thoroughly , being a ng or exp.

so as to avoid outage

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[rain patio]

point is dwai lol i think if you try to learn the stuff while you're there you'll already be better than 90% of junior devs

[teal jackal]

tbh defense is kinda a good gig

[jovial latch]

People I interviewed with work on fuckin aircraft systems and they grilled me on c++ so I just got shit luck

[teal jackal]

if you just wanna chill

[jovial latch]

I'm capable of low level stuff I just can't go deep into it on the spot

[rain patio]

oh yea im sure the senior swes do some cool stuff

otherwise why even use c++

[hot hatch]

defense is okay

pay isn't great

[jovial latch]

The standard

Usually have to be onsite in some capacity

Probably a drug test

But forget all that I need the offer first

could go either way tbh

if they reject me its cause they think im not competent enough on c++

[hot hatch]

what defense company are you interviewing with?

[jovial latch]

l3harris

[hot hatch]

cool

i worked at general dynamics before

and interviewing with lockheed atm

[jovial latch]

yea i got l3harris n capital one rn, and im pretty confident ill make it to the final round on the capital one role

[teal jackal]

c1?

theyre still interviewing for new grad?

[jovial latch]

ye

no

well for some absurd reason c1 had a entry level ml program and i applied to that, i asked bout the swe program, thats closed

and they did ask me bout ml concepts

so thats legit

[peak bolt]

GL!

[grizzled bronze]

Yes, for Machine Learning Development program https://capitalone.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Capital_One/details/Machine-Learning-Development-Program-Associate---2023_R160827-1

[jovial latch]

still open eh, id have thought it closed by now

though yea they do ask ml shit, gotta have some knowledge on that front

defense contractor

and yea they love spamming postings all over linkedin

[grizzled bronze]

What's their process been like so far?

[jovial latch]

they asked me on a thursday for interview availability the next 2 weeks, i respond that day, i dont hear back until wednesday setting up for an interview the next day, on teams nonetheless

all rounded interview, bit of everything

[ivory stratus]

but you said they only pay $70k?

i see their stuff everywhere too

seems like they're hurting for talent

[jovial latch]

idk their pay, not that i can really afford to care about that at this point

i thought it was pretty well known defense contractors dont pay that well compared to other shit

[ivory stratus]

i guess it just depends on where idk

i just know that security clearance is clutch when getting higher tc at faang

microsoft pays i think 25% higher base salary

i think amazon pays $50k more

[hot hatch]

oh wow

why?

[ivory stratus]

idk tbh

prob cause they have to work with classified info or something

or because some of that money comes from the government

[hot hatch]

ah, well then they'd need to work on a project relating to that, not just any SE role

[ivory stratus]

yeah but it's easy to find a job at those companies if you have a clearance

[teal jackal]

rather work at l3harris and have any dev experience than be unemployed

[sonic coral]

The clearance roles are for those projects

They’re a seperate hiring pipeline from normal SWE

[brittle lark]

I have the hours to graduate in the fall, would it be better to graduate in fall or stretch it out to next spring?

[karmic harness]

no one knows man

this could be better than next spring

[grizzled bronze]

Depends on location, I only saw L3 Harris's Los Angeles New Grad listing showing a salary range. The range was $92,500 - $111,000

[dawn sequoia]

already got rejected for this

[teal jackal]

how would you stretch it out?

if youre stretching it out with another internship, then yes

if youre just gonna delay grad, then no

[tardy geode]

bruh follow your gut , no one knows when this economy would bounce book , imo this whole year is kinda messed up

maybe Q2 2024 things stabilise

[brittle lark]

i would have to take summer classes to graduate in fall

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

bless us techie

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

@livid yew where's my comcast referral

[livid yew]

idk how to do that

I have not read the guide on referral system yet

[teal jackal]

dont bother

do an internship

internship >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes

or wait

do u have an internship atm

or in the loop for any

[brittle lark]

i have a non swe internship that I can do however long I want, havent been able to land a swe internship

[teal jackal]

what is non-swe?

[brittle lark]

did 1 interview a month ago, havent heard back

business analyst

[teal jackal]

hmm

[brittle lark]

somewhat related but not swe

[teal jackal]

do u write code stuff

[fossil jewel]

probably no

[brittle lark]

Mostly writing features and documentation, and then doing testing

[timber rock]

if you get a job then graduate. if u dont then delay

imo

[teal jackal]

hmm this is complex

im having a hard time coming up with advice man

[brittle lark]

if i get this internship with the gov I'll definitely extend it to spring, but if not then it's kinda up in the air

[teal jackal]

id also try aplpying to fall internships

[rain patio]

if tuition isn't that much maybe you can extend

no one knows when the market will get better so if it's a lot of money then id just graduate during the fall

[brittle lark]

i go to school for free

[rain patio]

oh yeah wtf just graduate late if you can't find anything

[ivory stratus]

Dis what i did lmao

[fossil jewel]

yeah i told me friend to do so if she can

[rain patio]

@fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

hi

[rain patio]

hi

[fossil jewel]

can i help u

[west egret]

tbh it's prob best option. You don't gain anything by graduating early without an offer in hand.

And you could do an internship in between to extend it further and give you more time to apply FT.

[ivory stratus]

Thats what im doing. Have an internship for Hawaiian Airlines and it might turn into ft after grad

[teal jackal]

Stall bro

[tardy geode]

help me get an offer oreos 😭

[rain patio]

help me get an offer oreos 😭

[tardy geode]

@livid yew bro you gotta refer us and make bank

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[livid yew]

I will look into it tomorrow

[hot hatch]

is there a max # of people you can get a referral bonus for?

[livid yew]

[green pendant]

pls gib referral😞

[livid yew]

idk if I even get a bonus

prolly do though

[grizzled bronze]

Doubt it, you only get the bonus if they get hired and there's only so many new grad spots

[hot hatch]

oh yeah, just thinking in general, referrals would be ez money

[grizzled bronze]

Some companies don't even give bonuses for new grads, they just do it for industry roles

[hot hatch]

at a company I worked for

the person who referred me got a referral bonus for my internship role

[grizzled bronze]

Nice! I haven't heard of bonuses for internship referrals, that's uncommon

[green pendant]

wait fr can you give referral?

[livid yew]

perhaps

[fossil jewel]

i would if jpm sponsors entry level

they do at higher levels i think

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel

el oreo

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-sad-stressed-munch-feed-me-gif-14314729

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/biting-eating-delicious-yummy-oreo-taco-gif-14363368

[teal jackal]

I built my ideal car in automation

400hp, 6 speed manual, AWD

5 door liftback

[outer radish]

Stinger

[teal jackal]

stinger is lit

[outer radish]

if it had a manual and like 50 more bhp

[pine topaz]

guys..

I am so happy

[fossil jewel]

since when @pulsar mural types full sentences

[pine topaz]

ever since i taught her how to write full sentences with my patience, understanding, empathy and love.

[fossil jewel]

we all need a tutor like you

[teal jackal]

hot