2023_grads

[chilly burrow]

I also didn't do the oa lol

[rain patio]

i might have said bellevue

lmao

Oh oops I got screened for winter/spring (Masters) cohort mb

Still haven't heard back for Summer Full-Stacj

[chilly burrow]

I said SF

But I've worked at a tech company before

[rain patio]

i got rejected from intel dude

idk that one hurt me a little bit

[chilly burrow]

Ye

[rain patio]

are you a student?

oh fuck im on the wrong server

[chilly burrow]

No

I didn't do the oa

[chilly burrow]

Ye

I'm a 2023 grad

[livid yew]

target school is so dumb

such a dumb concept

[gray dagger]

Fax

Boot camps 😗

[chilly burrow]

I gues u didn't go 2 1?

[late kestrel]

too many ppl here went to one

no name state school gang

[livid yew]

idk where is the list

[late kestrel]

ud know if u did

[livid yew]

fair

[green pendant]

pls tell me how many of the parts could you solve in the technical round in the final

[chilly burrow]

I didn't do oa 😭

I got it but was 2 lazy

[green pendant]

OH

I misread as

you got offer

at flexport

[lone rapids]

Heard about duolingo?

[fossil jewel]

there’s a reason some schools have better companies showing up to their events than others

even if it’s not explicitly “we only seek people from target schools”

there’s some internal preference towards those students

you honestly wouldn’t know since they reject a big number of people

they’re not gonna advertise it as such, they want it to seem like they have the best talent

that’s true

it’s not 100% targets except lots of hft

but that’s why i said there’s some preference towards target schools

just looking at the % of people at some places who come from specific schools

but some of those target school students will tend to be cracked and passionate (in my opinion)

yeah that’s not to say non targets are completely eliminated you just have to fight harder to get the resume value and connections

targets also have a good network with the industry

[robust drum]

Thats not true, Ive worked at a couple companies, a lot of good companies definitely target certain schools, a lot of them only do career fairs with certain schools

It has nothing to do with skill level, coding is just repetition, all things the same the more interview you have the more likely you are to get hired

no shit, which is why companies target certain schools which what im saying

[rain patio]

I believe this is true, sometimes I see certain companies that are relatively distinguished have a disproportionate amount of students from my school, but when I look at equally ranked companies they have at best 1/3 the amount

[fossil jewel]

target schools have those sweet industry connections

[green pendant]

tbh I think the effect of target schools wane away VERY quickly once you start gathering experience

[livid yew]

@fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

local to area how?

[robust drum]

wym

[fossil jewel]

i mean umich is a target school to many but idk if there’s many companies on michigan

[robust drum]

Im more curious about pay, do yall think companies pay people from target schools more competitively?

[rain patio]

I think most companies pay the same band for each position

[rain patio]

certain circumstances like you're published, have an MS degree, or etc the recruiter might give you a bump... But they're not making up numbers based on what you deserve... Regardless you're getting that base offer, and you negotiate with competing offers

[fossil jewel]

ik someone who applied to 2sig twice and still got interviewed while not having a good resume that was a fit for the role, while someone else who was a better fit just got rejected

better fit with a referral fyi

[robust drum]

i mean if most of a companies candidates are from a certain school, its a pretty good chance they are targeting that school, there are a lot of colleges in the U.S that teach CS, not to mention Bootcamps, and Self Taught people

[lunar sparrow]

its usually a local thing, google has special programs to help students on campus on their target schools (usually within close distance to a major campus)

as well as lots of recruitment events, helping students get better at prepping for faang style interviews

in the last few years they have started to target hispanic serving institutions

[robust drum]

When I say companies target certain schools I don't mean they ONLY target those schools, they target certain schools as in they will give their resumes a higher rate of interviews and then hire from other places, like maybe 50% from a specific set of schools and then the other 50% from whoever else puts their resume in that looks like a good fit

[lunar sparrow]

but in my experience I haven't had trouble getting interviews with most faang companies despite going to random state school lol

[robust drum]

same, faangs are sorta slutty it seems like they let just anyone interview

[fossil jewel]

nah it could be an ATS system too

[robust drum]

Its only complicated for the candidates, for recruitment people it makes it much easier

less people to focus on

[lunar sparrow]

i mean they have special links for applying that gets sent to another pile when they visit schools

usually

so higher likely hood of passing difficult interviews maybe

or diversity

[rain patio]

I am pretty sure from the paragraphs that I read by recruiters outlining their process, going to target school buys you a few more seconds someone would read through a resume

[fossil jewel]

i think there’s a notion that students from there are “smarter”

again wanting to have the “best talent”

[lunar sparrow]

i mean not all cs programs were built the same

some barely cover DS / algo

[fossil jewel]

yeah cs programs at those schools have more rigor

[rain patio]

Imagine you had a chat log like twitch and the first thing you see under their name is the school that they go to, the chat log is moving extremely fast so you have to choose someone. Chances are you're gonna have a bias for the MIT or the Stanford name thats wizzing by since thats familiar to you

[robust drum]

brilliant way to explain it

[rain patio]

More often then not they filter by stack, so having the correct skillset can get you in

[fossil jewel]

hence smaller school people have to put in more work

[rain patio]

But even when you do filter by stack then you're going to come across this problem

[fossil jewel]

to get noticed

[rain patio]

There's also self-selection bias going on, that students coming to these good schools do get more experiences, tend to be more motivated (they did pass the MIT screen after all) etc

So it's a compounding effect

The issue is every company has their own recruiting practice, some dude on this discord mentioned (Ookla, was it?) that literally took half of their resumes and deleted it

Or threw it or something i dont remember

[fossil jewel]

oh okta

[rain patio]

If some recruiters are willing to go that low to make their jobs easier, I don't doubt for a second that they'd type in "MIT" for some free talent

[fossil jewel]

lol they said that after they thought the call ended i think

i think they're not gonna say its monkey dev work

they all say its "we have brilliant engineers who are changing the world into a better place"

[nocturne oriole]

@gritty solstice what’s so hard to understand about a preference for certain schools

Forget whether it’s right or righteous or whatever

Do you actually not understand the logic of it

There is real logic for it lol

[rain patio]

It's also important to note that recruiters performance is gauged by their throughput rate, if MIT students have a higher chance of passing the screen, the technical, and every following step, they're extremely incentivized to repeat these successes (smh english)

[nocturne oriole]

Even if only historical empirical reasons

“We hired from T10 and most pass the interview and perform well, let’s keep doing it”

[robust drum]

Its like how you might have a preference for guys with long beards because you had really good experiences with most the long bearded guys you dated, but that doesnt mean you only date guys with long beards.

[livid yew]

yes, remember this companies give zero fucks about you

[nocturne oriole]

1. is plainly not the case so we can rule that out from the start

It’s semi true at the highest level such as quant

[livid yew]

if laws did not prevent it, at least in the US. you would be working in a sweatshop for 100 hours a week

[nocturne oriole]

But that is an absolute outlier

[livid yew]

which is why I will never apply to HFT

because I have no chance

it is not worth my time to even attempt HFT

[nocturne oriole]

2. Do you not believe there exists a statistically significant correlation of talent and school?

[livid yew]

Kirb is probably a CMU grad

mf

[nocturne oriole]

And to give your argument weight, we define talent as “can meet job expectations”

Because at end of day that’s all that matters

[livid yew]

can meet and eventually exceed

[nocturne oriole]

This is literally denying how the laws of supply and demand work. They are trying to maximize benefits of hiring and thus use compensation or prestige to get the best they can get

[rain patio]

Yeah I don't understand this at all

[fossil jewel]

this

[stable shale]

[nocturne oriole]

The benefits to hiring outside X set of schools is for diversity of demographic and thought. Which is actually valid if we operate under the assumption that minmaxing for raw talent has tolerance. We can accept a min threshold of sufficient talent in our employees and increase stats in the other metrics such as communication or whatever or PR brownie points

[stable shale]

Its just the way the cookie crumbles

[nocturne oriole]

I’m saying that in your world where companies are minmaxing for hiring talent, the laws of supply and demand do apply and there is logic to it

[stable shale]

As much as people hate to admit school does matter and

[livid yew]

look end of the day, the world is a SHITTY and UNFAIR place

[stable shale]

Companies do not pay any thought to righteousness kek

Of course there will be outliers

[livid yew]

yes we can all complain about the process, but nothing will change

[stable shale]

But its literally survivors bias

[fossil jewel]

nah just be born rich

[livid yew]

and hey nobody is forcing you to apply to X

like just dont apply there

@gritty solstice Best of luck to you in your job search 🙏🏼

[rain patio]

I can see them looking for local talent as well as they're less likely to reneg/reject an offer, so it's not only a merit thing - if this is what you're arguing for

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

these schools have more students enrolled because not everyone goes to top schools, so its the reverse actually. more compete for that spot

[livid yew]

you should always be looking for next job though

passively testing the water

I dont care if you work at Google or Dave's Computing bro

[nocturne oriole]

companies benefit hiring outside X schools due to larger hiring pool and less competition

Yes, and they have operated under the laws of supply and demand where they demand the best they can get and are willing to accept a scarce supply. If they want to lower standards they move along the supply and demand curve. They are indeed losing out on so called benefits by only targeting X schools but it is consistent with the benefits they do care about.

[fossil jewel]

who tf is dave

[livid yew]

motherfucker I am outside all day

I worked outside today

[rain patio]

dave's computing lmfaoo

[livid yew]

lmao

a job is a job

Google means nothing to me

a job is a job

[pine topaz]

pltr

[stable shale]

I know for example in Canada TSLA only hires from like the top 5

so i guess that counts

[nocturne oriole]

I see what you’re saying btw which is if they just hired outside the targets then they benefit from having to pay less and compromise for talent. I am telling you this is a benefit they are not actively seeking

[stable shale]

at least intern wise IIRC

[fossil jewel]

maybe duo, adobe or figma

[rain patio]

fr bro

[fossil jewel]

but they're already very selective

[rain patio]

why tf is adobe selective

[livid yew]

I went to a non-target school, and accepted my below-averageness

[rain patio]

who uses adobe anymore

[livid yew]

what

[fossil jewel]

no clue but i just dont see them a lot in general

[nocturne oriole]

Earlier we all denied, including you, that target school is a literal hard filter. This question doesnt apply here tbh

Not helpful to discussion at hand

[fossil jewel]

we're all circling around the fact that its not a hard filter but more so a preference

[livid yew]

I could lie about going to T10, and probably get more response, but that is un-ethical in my eyes

[fossil jewel]

try it and report back

[livid yew]

will do

[rain patio]

what schools do yall go to

[livid yew]

your moms house bro

[rain patio]

or went to

[nocturne oriole]

What do you mean “if it’s true.” It is self evidently true. They are soft filtering for X metric (schools) because it maximizes the type of benefit/gain they want. Could they maximize it in some other way?

[livid yew]

people cheat on those

[nocturne oriole]

The reason i kept pointing to supply and demand is because now you suggest that if they were truly minmaxing they would have even more filters. Well, some do. Some dont

[livid yew]

like OAs are dumb

not saying I would cheat on an OA

chatGPT

this is joke

[nocturne oriole]

And they will gladly filter for the best in the supply

[livid yew]

my middle managers are cool

[nocturne oriole]

I dont like it either but what do you want companies to do? The best will compete for the best, and so forth

Ah yeah that’s a valid argument. You’re saying just throw out the school filter and do something else

The only real reason they like school filter is scalability

Which is a very good but frustrating reason for the individual

Then in that case you have the bottom 90% of candidates getting OA’s for things they would never pass the next filter for. It would be a timesink for many people

[livid yew]

no their ATS prob has a set of schools

[fossil jewel]

but OA is either preceded by a resume screen or followed by one

[livid yew]

hey I am bottom

I prefer take home than live coding

Cause I don't do anything

So what else would I use that time for

some ppl are just mad they played too many video games in HS

[fossil jewel]

some of us just went to terrible high schools

[livid yew]

Cod rn

[grizzled bronze]

Amazon accepts all, and that's all that matters🍌

[livid yew]

That is expensive

I got rejected by Amazon

4 times now

[fossil jewel]

i never got an OA sent by amazon

[grizzled bronze]

Keep trying, I know you got the skills to be a true Amazonian!

[sonic coral]

The “better” schools might give you a better network

But you can still get the same education outside top schools

[livid yew]

Nah that is sev1

At least to me

5min response time I bet

I start on call tomorrow

Not my first time tho

Only secondary on call

So low chance I get called

Unless primary just fucked up or is AFK for 45min

[wheat seal]

u guys think in event of getting laid off, that contributing to opensource / freelancing would be a good idea instead of going for a masters?

i feel like masters would be a drag

[livid yew]

Yes but also have new job lined up

Or close to lined up

[wheat seal]

i mean that would be good

[livid yew]

5min response time, PIP

[wheat seal]

but i mean you would have to interview / interview prep

and apply for jobs

[livid yew]

Yeah do daily LC

[wheat seal]

but in meantime

[livid yew]

I do LC and apply daily

[wheat seal]

you could do opensource projects and interview prep

[livid yew]

Like I have technical round scheduled in a couple weeks

[wheat seal]

nice

[livid yew]

Just to see what I still know

Otherwise it's mostly to gauge resume response rate

StubHub

Yeah

But I'm almost 3YOE

[wheat seal]

stubhub just did layoffs tho

i think

[livid yew]

So I can apply to higher roles

I don't care

[coarse quiver]

Best students tend to also go to more prestigious schools, which is a much higher factor imo than the actual coursework

[tardy geode]

when people say change your resume according to the job description , don't apply with the same resume . So do those peeps change their linkedin work ex section too? like the contents of it??

[grizzled bronze]

For myself I prefer keeping everything on LinkedIn, and only changing resume

[livid yew]

I never change resume

[meager terrace]

Yo yall ever feel like u wanna redesign your website portfolio but u also want to apply by submitting your website portfolio but its still dog shit

nah i think ppl who go to better schools get better opportunities

[rain patio]

reddit in general copes pretty hard with this

[timber rock]

hello 👋 that is my school

[rain patio]

most upvoted comment will always represent the most avg person, and the avg person doesn't go to a t10 or want HFT, but has avg goals. do/want anything above avg and you're just gonna get shot down

[small mountain]

untrue in the case of csmajors. that shit is a cesspool

the mere fact that people go on forums like this means they're above the average

[rain patio]

yes people here are maxing out on the neurotic portion of the OCEAN personality assessment

[timber rock]

i am convinced that most of csmajors dont actually have the jobs they say they do

[west egret]

People who go to better schools tend to have more motivation for internships. The average student at Stanford is going to have more drive than the average student at my not even top 100 school.

[vague furnace]

fr lol. top schools have students with more drive. my no-name school has tons of students who are super chilllll, don't really care too much about what job they get, just want a job in general

[rain patio]

at best you'll get some projection of their own reality (without them understanding your goals), "I went to a state school and I'm doing just fine at MITRE, therefore people with fancy degrees are misled"

[nocturne oriole]

Lol i have talked to enough csmajors irl and offline (before and after working fulltime) that people who went to good schools are genuinely blind on the enormous benefits it brought them. And people at bad schools exaggerate how hard it is to find a good job or are neurotic to the point it’s google or bust.

Life gives you advantages and disadvantages. Accept them. Funny enough playing any video game should make this lesson so obvious, you get good stats and bad stats in a character build or whatever

[timber rock]

but how am i supposed to keep going if i dont get into faang as a new grad?????

[small mountain]

didnt know what it was, took the test, yeah checks out

[west egret]

Yeah you can get a good job from a no name school. Is it harder to get noticed than if you went to Berkeley? Probably but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible.

[pine topaz]

restart ur life

[nocturne oriole]

The serious part of the joke is that it’s never too late to restart your life btw 🙂

[west egret]

Your parents picked the wrong seed for you. Unlucky.

[vague furnace]

yepppp. i went to a no-name, and got lucky to land an internship at a startup where everyone around me went to top schools. majority were v privileged and blind to advantages they had. the network i built there helped me a ton lol

[nocturne oriole]

I didnt mean to claim a majority of people with privilege refuse to believe it. I dont think it’s healthy to believe this about people and it’s frankly wrong. But yes many do

[small mountain]

luck always plays the biggest role but successful people dont like admitting it

[timber rock]

bruh?

lol

[small mountain]

avg cscd user

[livid yew]

link website

[small mountain]

https://www.truity.com/test/big-five-personality-test

[timber rock]

12% extraversion goes crazy

[small mountain]

ur insane bro

im a hermit and even i got like 26

[timber rock]

ok but whats your tc and leetcode count

[livid yew]

my TC is so fucked with current market lmao

[timber rock]

those are the real numbers that matter

[small mountain]

avg for london cs new grad + 158

you?

[pure mauve]

bruh holy fk Veeva. They just rescinded my offer because I worked at Meta

[timber rock]

300k + 81

[livid yew]

nice TC bro

congrats

wish my TC was that long

[small mountain]

in jesus name no more cap

[livid yew]

[timber rock]

yeah i got john street

[small mountain]

this dude unemployed as a mf

dont be sad techie

[timber rock]

😦

[small mountain]

whats yours

[livid yew]

damn

[timber rock]

so i win?

[livid yew]

yall are wild

[hasty birch]

Wtf, was that the only reason given?

[grizzled bronze]

WTF, can you give more info? What did they say?

[pure mauve]

too many Metamates quit after working at Veeva

[livid yew]

what is this one

[timber rock]

bro is so creative, adventurous and intellectual

[rain patio]

agreeableness

how likeable you are (kinda)

[grizzled bronze]

Can you post their exact email, that sounds so dumb of them to do

[livid yew]

" person’s tendency to put others’ needs ahead of their own,"

[small mountain]

same

[livid yew]

oh

[small mountain]

my ass does NOT wanna wagecuck stop shaming me website

[timber rock]

i got 42 😎

[livid yew]

so I am a long term thinker

[small mountain]

[livid yew]

[small mountain]

touché

[livid yew]

my lowest score bro

this shit rigged

[pure mauve]

They called me on the phone to tell me that the offer is no longer valid

[small mountain]

my scores would be flipped if i was doing this for an online assessment... i'd have 100 conscientiousness

[hasty birch]

Did you already sign?

[outer radish]

wtf this is fucked

[livid yew]

did you speed run this?

[small mountain]

i spent like 5 mins

thats normal right

[livid yew]

these all seem normal to me

[rain patio]

no meme i literally got 2%ile conscientiousness

[small mountain]

[grizzled bronze]

Dang I'm sorry

I didn't know companies did that

[grizzled bronze]

Fuck Meta

and fuck Veeva

[small mountain]

bro has the ambitiousness of a tree

[timber rock]

[livid yew]

I have low standards for myself

and care more about others

[small mountain]

good man

[small mountain]

bro is a walking red flag

[vague furnace]

if im not a Mexican citizen, and am applying to a position for Amazon in Mexico, i have to answer yes to the "do u need amazon to sponsor" question...right?

[small mountain]

are you applying for amazon mexico

[timber rock]

all i need to do is find a fellow neurotic

[vague furnace]

yeeee

[timber rock]

two reds make a green

or something

we're like twins! but not the same

[small mountain]

we shall unshackle fellow wagecucks together, comrade

[pure mauve]

this time is so fked

im actualyl ggs

[timber rock]

you are the wagecuck here

i am unshackled

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[dawn sequoia]

i didnt know this meme wasnt originally a picture

[timber rock]

its from the original predator lmao

[neon perch]

ONE OFFER PLZ 🙏

[timber rock]

[livid yew]

looking forward to this movie

[neon perch]

Ayo who’s given the flexport new grad interview here??

[clear dragon]

Anyone here given the Tesla final?

[teal jackal]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY

THAT IS FUCKED

tbh veeva is kinda weird

[late kestrel]

im super sus ab that. would be so weird to do

[teal jackal]

it seems liek there was a massive intellectual discussion

[crystal delta]

did they explain more ??

[teal jackal]

Anyways I would be inclined to believe nuwin

Veeva wants people who will stay

I remember in my final they made it clear that they hoped that I'd stay for 4 or 5 years at least if I was selected

[livid yew]

that is a decent bit of time

[earnest perch]

Why does it matter to them if someone worked at Meta??

[livid yew]

most people in SWE stay at jobs for like 2years now

[teal jackal]

Veeva STRONGLY values behavioral

they REALLY want people who are a good fit with their culture

culture is huge there

their technical aspect of the interview was trivial at best

it was 99% behavioral

[crystal delta]

it was so important to them that they rescind?

why couldn't they determine that during the interview? ridiculously unprofessional of them

[teal jackal]

They call to reject btw LOOL

and I got rejected for "communication"

which is very broad

[livid yew]

bet

slide me in

[crystal delta]

i got called to reject because of my "grades"

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

at veeva?

[crystal delta]

yeah

i didn't even take an oa or talk to ar recruiter

they just called me out of the blue after i applied online

to reject me

[teal jackal]

ah they call to resume reject?

thats so goofy

[livid yew]

I mean hey I respect a call

that is nice

if its a real human

[teal jackal]

they could just email it

tbh

[livid yew]

I guess

[earnest perch]

I have my phone screen with veeva in a couple of weeks

[livid yew]

but I am more likely to answer a phone call vs check my email

[ornate cliff]

they could just filter you during application? such a waste of time

[livid yew]

like I get hundreds of emails every day lmao

mainly cause I am lazy and never use spam address

[crystal delta]

all the scam calls mean i never answer my phone tbh

[livid yew]

oh

I answer most calls and then hang up lol

[crystal delta]

dont they track your availability that way

and sell that info

[livid yew]

oh yeahj

my info is so widely out there

I dont care

[crystal delta]

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

just say you like that veeva has a good mission

[pure mauve]

They said too many people at Veeva from Meta were quitting so they won’t approve any Metamates into Veeva

It’s fked up ik

[earnest perch]

noted ✅. I saw a huge article of theirs from a couple of years ago. Might just pick some things to say from that

[earnest perch]

Wtff that's so dumb

[livid yew]

Good Mission so generic

but hey it works

[pure mauve]

Fk veeva

[livid yew]

what is there average new grad offer

[grizzled bronze]

You work at Comcast so they might rescind since Comcast is more prestigious

[livid yew]

false bro

[teal jackal]

Veeva cares most about ucltural fit

[livid yew]

our customer service is ass @grizzled bronze

[late kestrel]

veeva was like 120k-140k depending on location iirc

[livid yew]

good stuff

[teal jackal]

that's fucked up, is that legal? probably is

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

but shouldnt be

[late kestrel]

i think full remote was around the lower end of that range so pretty solid

[livid yew]

ye

[teal jackal]

but tbf veeva is probably right that meta employees are ambitious and won't be content in one place for 5 years in a row

[livid yew]

MF its the "largest American multinational telecommunications conglomerate."

[late kestrel]

unfotunately working at a specific company is not a protected class

[teal jackal]

Veeva is right but it's still really fucked

[livid yew]

this world is fucked

[teal jackal]

im sorry to hear nuwin

[livid yew]

[green oyster]

Hey Guys, Anyone recently interviewed for New GRAD SDE position at Flexport?

[grizzled bronze]

If they didn't want to hire ex-Meta intern, then why the fuck did they pass them on resume stage

Fuckers

[teal jackal]

^

this story is still unbelievable in the sense of "WTF its so crazy that a company actually did that"

[teal jackal]

The more I think about it the more I realize that "yeah a company would unironically do this"

Local and smaller companies do arbitrary shit like this all the time
Veeva culture is like that of a local company where fit really matters

[green pendant]

is it possible to re-enter swe after new grad tho

[nocturne oriole]

yes it is possible

[green pendant]

imo I think if I don't start my career now I can't ever do it

like if I take a break for one year now

[nocturne oriole]

the truth is some employers and interviewers will look at that strangely and yes you will lose some opportunities

obviously once you have the job, that won't be a worry

[green pendant]

idk who will ever take a chance though

like

idk

feels strange to even think of the fact that my career might be over before it even began

[nocturne oriole]

don't count yourself out before you're out

[green pendant]

fuck meta. fuck google. fuck amazon. and fuck microsoft.

[nocturne oriole]

well yes, it's not just them either, the entire market is suffering

you are thinking ahead to a distant future though, focus on the present

even when market was good i had plenty of friends getting jobs 6-8mo after grad

[keen sequoia]

Bruhh relax

[green pendant]

I'm international I don't have 6 months😭

[crystal hollow]

simple, install arch linux

that's a year

[green pendant]

if I go back to home country and get a faang level salary there it'll still take me 11 years to pay off my loan😶

Rip my finances

But eh

[crystal hollow]

it's not so bad

student loan servicers are nicer on the phone than credit card servicers, that's for sure

[green pendant]

But tbh I am more worried about career suicide than that right now

But let's hope it doesn't come down to that

[neon perch]

It’s very demoralizing tbh when you can’t land one offer despite working so hard throughout masters and for each interview like it’s the last one.

[eager reef]

I have two internships on my resume rn and I'm starting a full time job in February -- should I take those internships off now and only have my full time job on there?

[rotund rapids]

Anybody know of a good list of new grad roles to apply to for 2023 grad?
https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023 has become outdated

[neon perch]

No idea

[teal jackal]

^ sorry chief

[chilly burrow]

Nothing tbh

[grizzled bronze]

In general the best place is LinkedIn

Sort by latest

And Untapped/Indeed/Handshake might also be useful

[pallid citrus]

From what region do you hail?

[timber rock]

No

Just leave them all on

[plush lily]

Take off your weakest project

[west egret]

No point in removing them without something to replace them IMO

[eager reef]

makes sense, thanks everyone!

[vague furnace]

Has anyone interviewed with Candid Health?

[grizzled bronze]

Veeva recently rescinded a senior SWE just for trying to negotiate offers too https://www.teamblind.com/post/Veeva-worst-experience-ever-fUQDaUcq

Yep this is so Veeva. The CEO has veto power and reviews every offer, so it commonly takes 2-3 weeks. And coming from MAANG+ you’re automatically at a disadvantage because they assume this is just a stopping point along the way to higher TC.

[tardy geode]

won't stop

[livid yew]

[teal canopy]

does tiktok give out an OA to anyone who submits an application?

[timber rock]

No

[teal canopy]

welp watch me bomb it 🥲

[tardy geode]

until i get something

[high arrow]

has anyone heard anything from C1's machine learning dev program?

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

[teal canopy]

are there any restrictions to working full-time if it's your last semester as an international student

[vague furnace]

ok well, I did terrible on the interview LOL. in case anyone else also has something coming up with them, study system design and practice coding interfaces lol

ive been doing so many puzzle leetcodes that i completely neglected system deisgn and OOP principles >_>

[gray dagger]

Ban leetcode in interviews

🫡

[teal jackal]

man my perception of veeva has nosedived in just one day

now im convinced veeva uses the concept of "company culture" and "good wlb" as a means to keep engineers complacent and in place, not because they actually give a damn

[gray dagger]

Welp veeva can’t compete with big tech to retain talent

They had to do something

As I see it, it’s a problem created by big tech and veeva is insecure

[west egret]

Not sure if this is really a good option either. LC is something you can practice on your own time with a lot of resources available. If you take a random CS student who has 0 experience, it seems easier to learn LC over sys design imo.

[gray dagger]

Idk I’m okay-ish at leetcode but I love system design since I keep working on projects most of my time

It’s more interesting 🥲

[teal jackal]

Not to mention the kind of overly personal questions they ask in their “Job history” round. It was an hour interview and the hiring manager went 23 minutes over time completely disregarding my schedule. The whole process is a mess

[west egret]

I'm the opposite NGL. I only did projects during breaks when I had time. Even then they were stupid small ones that I did in 3 days.

[teal jackal]

yeah I got the impression that during veeva's team day they care way too much about behavioral

going so far to ask a LOT of really in depth questions

kinda was unsettling

tbh

[gray dagger]

Can we exchange our minds pls 🥲

I need more leetcode in my life

[drifting pelican]

I haven't been on here in a minute. Are companies still hiring?

[sonic coral]

They’re reverse hiring

[teal jackal]

[pure mauve]

Did anyone get a genies HackerRank?

[fossil jewel]

i like LC when i’m not under pressure

for the aspect of puzzle solving

i miss binary search tbh

[radiant juniper]

I j had an initial screening with them bro I totally agree

[teal jackal]

it was a bit of a caution flag when they said they'd like me to stay for around 5 years if I were to get an offer

[outer radish]

One of the best platforms tbh

[west egret]

I never used it much. Was the main benefit the ability to do problems with ppl in a room?

[tardy geode]

this

[tardy geode]

bro i can so relate to you

[tardy geode]

yeah that was fun

why did it shut down though ? my roommate was friends with the founder , bro was like the 2nd-3rd user of binary search

[gray dagger]

Isn’t binary search an algorithm or am I missing something lmaoo

[tardy geode]

it was a coding platform like LC

but way cooler and fun

[west egret]

Just say yes

[green pendant]

any time I see the letters 'NG' in the wild I immediately think of new grad lmao

[pine topaz]

what did they say

[tardy geode]

@pulsar mural

👋

[teal jackal]

starts with V and ends with eeva?

gotta at least answer the hint

they grilled me about that too but I said that my team didn't have headcount as an intern

this is why I find the veeva process so intrusive and obnoxious

wait what does that mean bro

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[outer radish]

yeah essentially, get together with your buddies and grind an LC contest pretty much

I think there was a whole host of different types of questions as well

has anyone interviewed with Thomson Reuters

[shy fable]

Anybody interviewed with Finserv ?

[west egret]

They're still interviewing? I was supposed to have phone with recruiter and she called me to say that they reached HC.

This was 2-3 months back

[outer radish]

apparently, I've got a call with the hiring manager tomorrow

i think i got fast tracked or just handselected

[late kestrel]

new year new hc

[outer radish]

bruh

no shot

been grinding LC and backtracking like no tomrrow

tryna be like one of those mfs that ace every interview ever received

[fossil jewel]

gooooood lucky my dude

[tardy geode]

good luck

[west egret]

I think it was dracos(can't remember name) who had interview with Reuters and got asked to reverse a string last season

return s[::-1]

[outer radish]

thanks guys

wendys on the run down

[west egret]

He was applying for internship. Maybe they'll ask you to reverse a linked list instead.

[outer radish]

i'll hit em with both recursive and iterative

[west egret]

Are you going to use machine learning?

[outer radish]

yeah chat gpt

[west egret]

From now on, I'll use chatGPT in all my projects and say I utilized ML.

[vague furnace]

not sure if this was posted, but its so funny

[neon perch]

Guys where can I find new grad openings?

[vague furnace]

job searching websites and going to company career pages

[neon perch]

No I meant like is there any document or repo which has all of them clustered together

Cause idk man LinkedIn isn’t being too helpful

[coarse quiver]

Is it?

[vague furnace]

ya

[coarse quiver]

Ok

[vague furnace]

i had bookmarked a good site with updated positions, and i think it had entry-level specific tags. ill send it over if i can find it again

[lone rapids]

Me too pls

[neon perch]

Thanks man!!

[coarse quiver]

Man?

[vague furnace]

?

[coarse quiver]

?

[lime moth]

Have you done the one way video interview? I just got it sent yesterday and wondering what kind of technical questions to expect, I’ve only seen about stuff for swe not systems tho

[vague furnace]

i think this was the site @neon perch @gentle peak , but you had to click thru links to see if the postings were still open https://entryleveljobs.me/full-time/software-engineer

also this: https://mailchi.mp/codingitforward/job-drop-104

if youre into indie games, this could also be a good place to search through: https://www.workwithindies.com/#newsletter

[pine topaz]

Why do you talk to capricorn?

He's not a good perosn

[teal jackal]

whats the beef with capricorn

[verbal ore]

^

[gray dagger]

Bruh I lost hope in humanity after this

I told them I don’t know php in the first call and now after three rounds of interviews they say “looking for someone with experience”

We should have a shame board for companies

[dusty halo]

Hi guys, what do they ask in 15min phone call for Flexport?

[thick cave]

when did you hear back from flexport with respect to the time you took the OA? curious cause I took mine somewhat recently

[dusty halo]

Took the OA last night. Heard back today.

[thick cave]

i c i c

ty ty

[dusty halo]

Np

[pure mauve]

Damn so many flexport interviews

[whole berry]

flexport going hard as hell rn

[pure mauve]

Watch them pull some shit and only give like 10 offers

[thick cave]

apparently those were non tech roles tho

but yea lowkey still somewhat questionable

[pure mauve]

Yeah they wanted to become more engineering focused or something

[solemn notch]

flexport didn’t layoff any swes

they are hiring a ton more swes rn actually

[drifting talon]

What’s the flexport posting y’all applied to? I keep on getting rejected bc “my degree level doesn’t meet requirement”. I’m applying the Flexport SWE i position btw

SWE I position*

[faint igloo]

im worried that flex is overhiring and gonna layoff later loool

be a pain to move all the way over and then lose my job

[jovial latch]

ill take getting a job and then fired over no job

severence, you get to put something on the damn resume

[foggy vortex]

is there a flexport role for bachelors ng? I got an email back saying that my specified degree wasn't high enough

[chilly burrow]

It's possibl

But unlike most startups iirc they r profitable

[neon perch]

What’s their headcount for NG?

[plush lily]

They wouldn't do such mistake wouldn't they

Specially rn

[faint igloo]

idk blind said they have 1.2bil in cash reserves and still laid off pms, ds/ml and ux folks

[craggy radish]

They announced 20% layoffs two weeks ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/flexport-to-lay-off-20percent-of-its-global-workforce.html

[faint igloo]

and they also pivoted ceos too

[teal jackal]

this year gets worse

the gift that keeps on giving

:/

[faint igloo]

yea the layoffs were mostly non eng

and like leadership

[craggy radish]

Layoffs are such a bandwagon at this point

[faint igloo]

ive also seen on blind like

apparently pm to eng ratio was like 1pm:3eng

but i find that hard to believe

[normal palm]

man everyone's laying off everyone

[faint igloo]

not apple

[plush lily]

Tough times

[faint igloo]

big A amirite

[craggy radish]

Not yet, who really knows

[faint igloo]

🥹

[craggy radish]

But also apple fans buy the new iPhone every year

[faint igloo]

lol

[neon perch]

No that would be stupid.

[faint igloo]

and arent air pod sales enough to put apple into the F500 alone

[teal jackal]

Apple is unlikely to lay off, they hire based on business needs

[craggy radish]

The big tech companies can afford to not layoff people, it's all just for more profit

For unprofitable startups burning too fast, layoffs are reasonable

[teal jackal]

And I don't think tbh apple has many dead end teams and projects at the moment

cutting dead end projects is good for valuation at the moment

Ok I found a way to significantly improve my leetcode productivity

taking notes in a megadoc gets way too cluttered

instead now I do folders on my pc, folders by paradigm

and then I make a text document for each problem

[jovial latch]

i just used oneNote

[teal jackal]

im never doing the megadoc again

[jovial latch]

kinda just want a job so i can say fuck off to leetcode

despise that shit

[teal jackal]

[fervent drift]

hi (say hi back)

[jovial latch]

like fuck ive worked in a software team that did the whole agile bs, did normal tickets n crap, but sure ask me fuckin twoSum or something lol

[green burrow]

hey how are yall coping rn

2023 grad here just got my offer rescinded and starting from zero again :/

[grizzled bronze]

Sorry! Check out #layoffs_support Which company?

[green burrow]

it's not even a big tech, it's a medium sized in San Diego

which is even more depressing ngl. I am okay-ish tho.

[wild igloo]

are you the person that posted yext rescinded on reddit?

[green burrow]

nah, but I know this is happening across the industry now. wouldn't be surprised

[wild igloo]

damn

what company was it? if you don't mind sharing

[green burrow]

sorry not gonna share for now cause I am still not sure how this is going.

[drifting talon]

Are you international?

[foggy vortex]

nop U.S.

[drifting talon]

hmm did you have a undergrad date in 2019 or pre 2019

undergrad start date*

[foggy vortex]

i started in 18'

i applied for another role, maybe I made a mistake in the application 🤷‍♂️

[pure mauve]

fuck SAP to lay off people lmfao

[gray dagger]

Tusimple?

[jovial latch]

Well there's goes another company doing layoffs

Who's next?

[hasty birch]

Same for me

[sonic coral]

Non tech is getting into it now

3M did layoffs

[jovial latch]

God I really hope l3 gives me an offer

Had an interview earlier today

I'll say whatever who fuckin cares I'm uphding the military industrial complex

job

[turbid oxide]

Anyone looking for mle/ds roles? ping me if you want to collectively search for jobs . (we are a group of students graduating this may looking for full time roles due to offer rescinding or hiring freeze )

[solemn notch]

they are making engineers do more design lol

[lime moth]

anyone know how hard wolverine trading oa is?

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/im-serious-x-men-wolverine-claws-hugh-jackman-gif-5385483

[green pendant]

name and shame?

[green pendant]

oh this is 100% happening

[green pendant]

and public sympathy

getting fired after joining > not getting an offer > getting an offer and then rescinded close to start date

I am okay with the first one or the second one I just hope it's not the third one for anybody

[jovial latch]

gotta load up on all the offers

[green pendant]

fuck yeah at this point I am looking to get at least 4 offers each with a start date 4 month after the other

that way if I ever get fired/rescinded I will have an offer with a start date <4 months down the line

[jovial latch]

ill take a single damn offer at this point

[dawn sequoia]

is it possible with a bachelors? most ML/DS postings I see prefer MS or PhD

[timber rock]

possible but a lot harder

[jovial latch]

new grad ml postings are rare

always wants some YOE

ive only seen like 1 actual entry level ml posting

[wheat seal]

yea SAP is selling qualtrics now too

hopefully a private equity firm doesnt acquire

but tbh

not sure who would buy with this recession

[grizzled bronze]

SAP is dead to me anyway, they've always resume rejected and their job app system sucks

[wheat seal]

how long do acquisitions usually take?

[sonic coral]

A few years no?

[wheat seal]

not too sure

[grizzled bronze]

TIL SAP owns Qualtrics

[lime moth]

capital one has an ml rotation program you just need bachelor's i think

[wheat seal]

i would think worse case scenario i get laid off with 1+ yr experience

but more like 1.5 i think

because they have to first find a buyer, then the process could take 6mths to close the deal

[sonic coral]

Well usually mergers and acquisitions takes a few months minimum before they start evaluating headcount

[wheat seal]

oh true

[sonic coral]

So yeah you should have like 4-5 months minimum assuming they already have buyers in mind

Even more if they’re still looking

[wheat seal]

yea they havent announced a buyer yet

[sonic coral]

But there’s also the possibility it’s an acquihire

So acquisition doesn’t guarantee layoffs

[wheat seal]

is an acquisition called an acquisiton if a PE firm is buying?

not sure what the term is

[sonic coral]

Acquihire more likely if a tech company is buying tho

[sonic coral]

No clue but yeah if a PE is buying it’s likely gonna be downsized

[wheat seal]

oh yea i mean idt think any tech company will buy Q rn with this market and everyone trying to please shareholders

so most likely itll be a PE

sadly

[sonic coral]

I could see msft tbh

It seems up their alley

Maybe amazon even

[wheat seal]

yea thats the best case scenario

worst case is PE

but even then id have maybe like 4-6 mths after they find a buyer

which they havent yet

[sonic coral]

If it was normal times goog would likely buy to integrate with g forms but nowadays that’s a hell of a long shot lmao

[wheat seal]

yea lol

if i get laid off ill just do open source and leetcode

[sonic coral]

I could potentially see airtable

They still have fuckloads of vc cash

How much is qualtrics worth

[wheat seal]

7 billion

and our non-gaap EPS is like .03 last quarter

[sonic coral]

Ok maybe not that much then lmao

I thought qualtrics was like 1-2B lmao

[nova patrol]

Hi guys, will chatgpt really impact tech jobs?

[wheat seal]

our revenue is 1 billion

[sonic coral]

Tbh I could see amazon buying even in this economy tbh

[wheat seal]

0 chance

[sonic coral]

They easily have 10B to toss

[wheat seal]

chatgpt cant deprecate code

[sonic coral]

And they already use qualtrics quite a bit

[wheat seal]

chatgpt cant do design docs

chatgpt cant handle conflicts amongst team members

[sonic coral]

But amazon would likely buy for the product purely and downsize

[grizzled bronze]

It won't impact our jobs negatively, it's more like an additional tool that can help us be more efficient

[sonic coral]

In another economy they might’ve kept employees as a subsidiary but nowadays I feel like if I did buy qualtrics they’d downsize

[wheat seal]

yea i think layoffs are unavoidable at this point

but if a PE gets it

they will clean the house for sure

[sonic coral]

Hmm msft is still buying companies as recently as two weeks ago

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/acquisition-history.aspx

[wheat seal]

wow thats wild

yea its definitely a possibility then

honestly all i know is i should be fine for the next 6 mths

after that who knows lol

but hopefully msft acquires

[sonic coral]

Yeah I mean layoffs aren’t 100% inevitable even if msft acquires but it’s like the best shot tbh

[ivory stratus]

can they acquire me?

[sonic coral]

Are you a Delaware corporation

[ivory stratus]

i could be

[sonic coral]

True it is 2023

Be whatever your heart desires

[jovial latch]

no lol

[sonic coral]

Holy fuck

https://apple.news/ASIzGD1coShmuiKgF5UQvKw

Morgan Stanley is fining it’s own brokers a milly each after they got a massive fine from the SEC

Imagine owing a million dollars to your employer

[ivory stratus]

chump change

[sonic coral]

To be fair these brokers prob do clear like a mill a year after commission lol

[ivory stratus]

ez

[wheat seal]

u know, im curious why bbg is considered super safe

they arent affected at all?

[sonic coral]

They make money in recessions

The financial companies that are trading in this crazy market are paying them for their software fees lmao

[wheat seal]

oh damn thats nice then

[sonic coral]

Also doesn’t hurt them that ol’ Mikey B wrote in a bunch of laws entrenching them in the financial sector when he was mayor

Various “regulations” mandating financial companies to use some auditing software that only Bloomberg supplies

[ivory stratus]

that doesn't seem sus at all

[sonic coral]

Nope not at all

There’s never any sus shit in nyc

Never

[outer radish]

didnt that guy in the Big Short movie pull a 64 million dollar bonus

[sonic coral]

Oh yeah yep

[outer radish]

im guessing each trader prob pulls a 10 bagger each year

[sonic coral]

And all the execs in margin call

Who made big bonuses while everyone else was laid off with no severance after they liquidated all their assets

[outer radish]

fuck software engineering, can someone get me a job as a c suite at a major US Bank

yeah that was fucked

prob gonna happen again tbh when the next big debt bubble collapses

[sonic coral]

Hey if you’ve got no morals and mad connections that’s the career to go for

Rising the ladder in IB by fuckin everyone over

[outer radish]

i feel like the connections aspect is lacking, im guessing nepotism and bran name schools really factor into that

at least for myself the connections would be lacking

yeah politcking on a daily

[sonic coral]

Yeah nah IB is all about who you know from what I’ve heard

[sonic coral]

The scene that really stuck with me from that movie was when both the VP and the jr analyst were in the bathroom the morning of the liquidation

The VP was just casually shaving while the jr analyst was having a mental breakdown in the stall since he knew he’d get laid off

[jovial latch]

god forbid the people in charge actually get punished for their mistakes

[sonic coral]

The whole liquidation was also the traders being promised a massive bonus if they each met a quota and they ended up just laying them all off and nobody but the execs got the bonus once it was all sold

[jovial latch]

well thats just capitalism for you lol

[peak ferry]

I don’t remember if they actually said what happened with the bonuses

If I’m an optimist kekw

[sonic coral]

Ah so you’re saying they might’ve been laid off with the bonuses lol

[covert fable]

Take your check and f-off
No?

[sonic coral]

Ah yeah I stand corrected looks like the traders did make their bonuses before getting laid off

I guess if they didn’t pay the bonuses they prob could sue?

But they didn’t sign anything did they?

[wheat seal]

i forgot i applied to palantir a month ago

and still havent heard back

are they done recruiting?

Oh ok tnx for letting me know

[dawn sequoia]

do you have a link pls?

[lime moth]

https://www.capitalonecareers.com/job/mclean/machine-learning-development-program-associate-2023/31238/42512974048

[outer radish]

oh shit i didnt even book that scene

[pine topaz]

Can we ban this devil?

think hes higher than god

[nocturne oriole]

STOP SNITCHING

LET YAHKUNA LIVE HIS LIFE

[grizzled bronze]

Anyone interviewing for C1 MLDP?

Looks like a new program

[vague furnace]

i took the codesignal, but not rlly interested in it. just thought to randomly apply.

[wheat seal]

u dont need any ML knowledge it seems

[grizzled bronze]

Let me know how it is if you get to the interview process, description doesn't require ML experience so I'm wondering what the process will be like

[steep hinge]

i got auto rejected without the codesignal sad

[neon perch]

Is it open for internationals?

[jovial latch]

nah you do they asked me some shiz

honestly im gonna be malding if i dont get the role i literally have a masters in machine learning

[steep hinge]

think it specifically says they wont sponsor

[neon perch]

Aight

[jovial latch]

yea can confirm, no sponser

[jovial latch]

they do actually ask bout some ml stuff

[wheat seal]

Wild

[grizzled bronze]

What was their interview process? Did you have to do coding?

[dawn sequoia]

thank you

[coarse quiver]

He meant perma ban

Perma ban immune

[pine topaz]

meesta bogg!!!

[vast rock]

anyone know the scale of yext rescind

Just curious

[split plaza]

has anyone done anduril recruiter phone

[tardy geode]

nothing seems to be open 😦

[grizzled bronze]

L3 Harris new grad virtual hiring event 1/31 https://careers.l3harris.com/job/clifton/l3harris-new-college-grad-opportunities-all-majors-hiring-day-event-1-31-23-ny-nj/4832/43187317472

[whole berry]

I guess I’ll make weapons

[neon perch]

Do they sponsor?

Nvm they don’t

[whole berry]

https://tenor.com/view/rimworld-missile-gaming-mechanoid-rimworldgaming-gif-26491064

Us on our first field testing

[jovial latch]

you'd think recruiters would respond to emails in a short amount of time, given thats like their only fucking job

youd fuckin think

[jovial latch]

they're probably too busy jerking themselves off on linkedin

[sonic coral]

Why is SpongeBob on this

[chilly burrow]

Who would b better?

No one

[fossil jewel]

job search got us like

[teal jackal]

BAYAYAYAYAAAAA

[autumn gulch]

Has anyone been rejected from Palantir after receiving a background check from them after the HM round?

[plush lily]

Wdym

You mean after receiving an offer and background check negative?

[paper magnet]

are you all getting OAs from any company ?

I have done so many applications still no reply

[pine topaz]

@teal jackal stop today is friday

[dawn sequoia]

@pulsar mural

[drifting talon]

Haven’t gotten an OA in the past 2 weeks

[paper magnet]

this is really frustating

[teal jackal]

Wait today is?

What the fuck

[torn stone]

for anyone who appeared for c3 virtual onsite with 3 engineers: do they ask system design?

[nocturne oriole]

:catnum:

[shell vine]

Can you please share your interview experience?

[neon perch]

When’s your interview

[shell vine]

not yet scheduled...just got mail to select the slots

[neon perch]

Ex Google ex salesforce for me

[shell vine]

when is urs?

[neon perch]

6th feb coding, 7th feb project deep dive

They had to split it cause most of their slots are full

[tardy geode]

whats the difference between a recruiter and a tech recruiter?

[shell vine]

oh...what's project deep dive?

I see in mail its interview with manager?

[neon perch]

They wanna ask question regarding any project you’ve previously done, like strategies and all that.

[neon perch]

Yup the EM

[shell vine]

oh..got it

have u come across anyone whose interview is done?

[neon perch]

I think @green pendant

[shell vine]

hi bro..when is ur interview?

[wild igloo]

how cracked out are your guys' resumes? I keep getting insta rejected from flexport

[sonic coral]

I got rejected from flexport with amazon internship last year lol

[rain patio]

24h rejected myself

[neon perch]

Which position did you apply to

And when did you apply

[sonic coral]

I applied in aug 2021

Software Engineer I, Trade Graph

Software Engineer I, Legal and Compliance

[neon perch]

Okayy the one I think most people are going for is the new grad swe masters

Which is a different position to what you applied for

[sonic coral]

I’m just saying they seem to have a really strict resume review

[neon perch]

That’s interesting cause they seem to be interviewing the entire world for their new grad swe

[sonic coral]

Well these were both new grad back when I was applying lol, I guess they’re opening up or something now

[neon perch]

Hey they had some events where they told they’re hiring 200 tech developers soon

[sonic coral]

Makes sense

[night marsh]

Even for all the lunatics on LinkedIn, posts like these keep up spirits during these trying times: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/fishmanrob_linkedin-community-layoffs-activity-7024769324636659712-TEAr?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

[green pendant]

so they are on a hiring spree now. maybe the timing is a factor. they have sudden increased hc for engineering and so getting through resume screen might be easier now than before.

[green pendant]

unfortunately I don't think this is the case for most people. I got 4x CFBR's and 2 random "W2 company" 's and 1 scam person asking me to donate to some sketchy website

[sonic coral]

Yeah I mean I just provided my info for more data cuz the other person was asking about other peoples resumes

Shits def diff this year

[green pendant]

oh cool I thought you were still looking lol

was gonna suggest applying

[night marsh]

Yeah it won't always work. I mean bc the original poster is replying to those comments with recruiters. May not work out but goes a long way

[sonic coral]

Nah im at google rn so maybe in a few months

[sonic coral]

Bro when round 2 hits I might be looking with you

[nocturne oriole]

same brother

we in it together

[lone rapids]

any undergrad got OA from flexport for FT?

[pure mauve]

yes, unless you are a support dev engiener

[sonic coral]

How’s morale now that it’s been a minute since meta layoffs

[lone rapids]

you international?

[tardy geode]

bruh flexport been acting bloomberg

[stone latch]

Can anyone tell me some useful and free system design interview preparation resources?

[frank wedge]

They just did 20% layoffs

[nocturne oriole]

stabilizing, still not good

[restive holly]

has anyone skipped a question on TikTok OA and still got invited for phone?

[naive chasm]

Should I bother applying to a role like this even though I graduated last May and haven't been doing anything since? I have 4 SWE internships but I've been applying to jobs like this without much luck... https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/2731746163

Don't get me wrong I also apply to NG roles but yeah

[nocturne oriole]

🅿️

[naive chasm]

?

[green pendant]

what is this flex damn

[green pendant]

mood at meta wasn't good even in May back when stock was 200 lol

mood at meta won't go up until Boz leaves

[sonic coral]

I mean we’re prob due for layoffs round 2 so

[green pendant]

I mean yeah and I understand why you're afraid but I think you'll be fine

[green pendant]

mini rant but it feels so sad to see all my friends graduate and join their new jobs and I literally know nobody in my college town right now and life feels so hollow nowadays

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-huge-hug-big-gif-11990658

mini rant but it feels so sad to see all

stop

[tardy geode]

what the... then why are they giving out interview invites and finals 💀

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

flexport is bloomberg in diguise

they been also stack ranking and shit ig

[tardy geode]

Quora rescinding return offers WTF 💀

how fucking bad can 2023 be

[earnest perch]

bruh I applied to flexport ages ago and still haven't heard anything

[tardy geode]

same

i think they are prioritizing applicants who have graduated already

[outer radish]

Dw guys I’ll talk to jpow and end this recession

For the class of 2023

[toxic latch]

I received an OA from TikTok for a job that I accidentally applied.The job required experience with Machine learning and I don't have any ML project or experience .Do they send OAs to everyone who applied?

[teal jackal]

yeah fuck the c/o24 they can sod off and eat shit

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21382840

jpow to us 2023 grads after listening to our plights ^

[livid yew]

2023 Grads I see great things in your future.

[obsidian oxide]

has anyone given the flexport full stack final?

pls

the recruiter said it has some ui part or something

[frank wind]

I recently got 2K OA. Does anyone know what they expect?

[grizzled bronze]

I would expect less than 4K

[tardy geode]

bruh give us referral atleast

[fossil jewel]

@livid yew where’s my comcast referral

[tardy geode]

atleast 50% of this server would get accepted and you would make big bank with that referral money

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[fossil jewel]

what if techie ends up being your boss