2023_grads

[green pendant]

tired of keeping up my 42 day streak on leetcode

[ornate cliff]

It doesn't have a built in ide or anything to code

[green pendant]

at least I am about to get the January badge soon

[fossil jewel]

educative does have an ide built in

that’s how i have grokking

idk about it from the actual site ngl

[ornate cliff]

fak its so expensive

[fossil jewel]

ye i paid by the year for it

[ornate cliff]

SHEEESH

[fossil jewel]

bc i use it for other tech stuff

[ornate cliff]

$200 that's long fam

[fossil jewel]

175

bc i’m a student

well not anymore

but i get student price

[ornate cliff]

How mate

[fossil jewel]

i use it constantly so i find it worth the investment for me, but i definitely understand that it’s pricey

[fossil jewel]

github student pack

[ornate cliff]

Yeah I'm gonna stick to neetcode for now 😂

[fossil jewel]

they give you 6 months free trial

yeah there’s a lot of free resources

[ornate cliff]

Oh that's sick I should do that

[fossil jewel]

what’s a good investment for me might not be for others

[ornate cliff]

Kirb recommends grokking before doing grind 75 💀

[fossil jewel]

fyi

you can probably find it online

some site had the html downloaded

[ornate cliff]

Yeah there's a github with all the pages... but it's a pain in the ass without the IDE

[fossil jewel]

ah i see

[ornate cliff]

merci mr oreos

💕

[fossil jewel]

de rien

[ivory stratus]

wait where do you get the free 6 month trial

trying to find it

oh nvm found it lol

[fossil jewel]

im not sure if it gives full access

but if it does, then its lit

[ivory stratus]

yeah it does

pretty dope

i graduate in may so that's super clutch

grokking for free is dope

[fossil jewel]

yeah i always rec the student pack

there's also interview cake

3 week trial

they got a cool style where you slowly get the answer

too bad i didnt use it fully

[ivory stratus]

yeah ill probably go through grokking and blind 75 by grad then just do neetcode 150/company tagged after

[grizzled bronze]

Almost a week later and still not archived at Microsoft

[ivory stratus]

same

p positive it's for ic2 so prob no hope for ng

[chilly burrow]

the ide is shit

do not buy that course

i bought it and refunded it after i realized there arent enough test cases

[fossil jewel]

thats true

[ornate cliff]

LMAO ya I looked at an example and it had like 5 test cases

[chilly burrow]

during the first chapter there were multiple instances where my code "passed" the tests

but was wrong

[ornate cliff]

No edge cases 😅

[chilly burrow]

and not cuz i was hardcoding

[chilly burrow]

instead of using educative's ide

use this: https://github.com/Chanda-Abdul/Several-Coding-Patterns-for-Solving-Data-Structures-and-Algorithms-Problems-during-Interviews

it has each questions with its leetcode alternate

so you get the same questions but can do it for free on a superior ide

[ornate cliff]

Niiiice that's helpful af

Merci my fellow canuck ❤️

[eternal mortar]

adobe since you're not making weapons lmao

[ornate cliff]

adobe cuz you won't cause loss of life and won't get pigeon holed into defence

[chilly burrow]

i doubt working at anduril will get you pigeonholed into defence

while I also have an aversion to working at a weapons company, if you don't I'd say Anduril

[grizzled bronze]

Pick Anduril, give the Adobe offer to me

[livid yew]

no give it to me

[grizzled bronze]

SWE 3 at Comcast = Adobe new grad?

[livid yew]

dm @grizzled bronze I am currently scheduling my 1st round of TikTok

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural interviewed with TikTok before, he might have some good tips for you

[livid yew]

oh I am going to fail it

[fossil jewel]

i thought u dont care for tik tok

though they do 996

u love being overworked

[livid yew]

I mean promotion structure varies between places

and sometimes it changes

[tribal moss]

o I see do ya'll think startups help you grow faster at all or is it just the person

[fossil jewel]

no, they do intern -> ft

[chilly burrow]

They dont do ng

Afaik

Only intern conversions

[grizzled bronze]

Dominos is up 🍕
https://jobs.dominos.com/us/jobs/2a8f142a-606e-42da-802a-ef731c5aca89/technology-rotation-program/

[jovial latch]

ahhhhhhh on-site

you know i interviewed with siemens the other day, posting said remote but then they were like 'yea we kinda want you to relocate in tennessee' so that job is fucking gone now

cause fuck that

[fossil jewel]

i mean how else you gonna do the pies

[jovial latch]

im sure ill have plenty of time when i fail to get a job and work at the local dominos

[shrewd ivy]

[green pendant]

my flexport coding round interviewer is ex sig and ex drw fuck me😞

Why do all the cracked motherfuckers need to interview me smh

[young peak]

SIG and drw are meh bro

You got this

[dawn sequoia]

id take it

anything in this market

[tardy geode]

same bro same

[dawn sequoia]

tbh i feel like if everyone who still doesnt have a job in this server was collected to form a startup/new company, we wouldnt do too bad

[green pendant]

for sure we talented af

[jovial latch]

probably tbh

and no i aint going to fuckin tennessee man lol

[livid yew]

lmao

what about Wisconsin or Chicago

[jovial latch]

i mean chicago i can do i guess
truth be told im confident i can land something remote or in the nyc area

i find the notion of relocating for a SWE role ridicoulus

buncha middle managers or stupid c suites trying to force in person work blah blah

[livid yew]

as someone who took a in-person SWE job in 2020

I am very indifferent to it

[sonic coral]

Well the tristate area is pretty damn competitive

[late kestrel]

weird take for a new grad with no offers atm

and didnt mean that as a diss. just cant afford to be that picky

[jovial latch]

i mean if i have no choice, ill relocate

really, really hoping it doesnt come to that

[sonic coral]

It might

[late kestrel]

being fully remote as a ng sounds super icky to me

diff strokes

[jovial latch]

i got no issues showing up couple times a week, but eh ive done internships fully remote, i work better remotely

mostly because i work much faster so i end up spending less time on my work when im remmote

[sonic coral]

Good luck getting a full remote ng job tho they’re def more rare

[jovial latch]

oh yea no it is indeed rare, but ay i got no issue showing up for nyc based jobs

but i cant do tenessee i aint doing that

god damn

[sonic coral]

I hope you can land something in ny/nj but like you do have to consider the possibility of not getting anything here and having to apply all over

[jovial latch]

yea thats fair

ive got a couple interviews, heres hoping

[dawn sequoia]

slide the Tennessee offer over brother 🙏

[chilly burrow]

i only did remote for my internships

and i feel like i missed out on the office exp

so i was aiming for in-person/hybrid for ng

[livid yew]

yeah hybrid is best

I am currently in the office 2-3 days a week

[jovial latch]

hybrids pretty good

remote and hybrid are aight, not in person every day though

[late kestrel]

yeah exactly

[late kestrel]

tbf i feel like hybrid is more common than 5x in office

[green pendant]

got rejected by both rip

[median stump]

Hi Guys, how you manage to check the daily job posting on linkedin indeed or any other app ?
do you guys have any particular github repo or job posting channel

[chilly burrow]

#grad_postings_old

also check pinned

[median stump]

Thanks turned on the notification for that.

[dawn sequoia]

oh? i thought the stuff in #grad_postings_old was automated from scraping some company sites. i didnt know they were server member submissions

[chilly burrow]

it is now

it isnt member submissions anymor

lemme unpin dat

[dawn sequoia]

🐐

[fossil jewel]

[sonic coral]

It’ll come soon

Gov already in talks about it

[teal jackal]

Dude these morons have fucked up our reputation

Now all the dumbass conservatives with no critical thinking skills think we do jack shit

They should see "day in the life of an Amazon intern"

Some of them even as interns dealt with some real bullshit there

[chilly burrow]

Legit all i do

So it seems accurate

[chilly burrow]

Nah, since ChatGPT SWE work is simply typing a prompt

Saying its anything else is cope

[teal jackal]

All coders in silicon valley do is eat hot chip, lie, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, free company sponsored lunch and espresso

[foggy perch]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-kanye-west-jesus-walks-song-mining-working-gif-20589118

meanwhile day in the life of a twitter/tesla/musk-company ng:

[chilly burrow]

I'm glad u understand 😃👍

[teal jackal]

"Any coder born after 1990 can't do meaningful work"

[foggy perch]

respect for swe has irreversibly been damaged by tiktok

[chilly burrow]

My aunt asked if she coud becom a swe

She askd me how long it woud take to code and get a job 😭

[teal jackal]

I think HR, business, and PM related interns do jack shit

In tech

[chilly burrow]

I disagree

Idk about HR and PM

But at the last place I interned the business interns did some real work

[teal jackal]

At least that's the stereotype lol

[chilly burrow]

They made a pitch and signed a big client

[teal jackal]

Damn that's impressive

[chilly burrow]

I don't like amplifying stereotypes

Except wen it coms to csmajors cuz thos r all tru

[teal jackal]

Everyone still at Twitter rn is a hostage tbh

[chilly burrow]

U coud say dis abt any job

All "day in the life" type content makes the job seem like the most ez mode shit

I don't hav tiktok so idk

But I recall seein 1 vid of a swe

Just seemed lik they worked 4 an hour lol

[peak ferry]

good swes don't deserve respect

[teal jackal]

This is so unreal bruh

PM moment

I'm gonna make day in the life videos someday

Once I save up for my car

[dawn sequoia]

I'd still take a job at an Elon company

[fossil jewel]

only good thing in this vid is dog being dj’d to

cute puppy

i don’t get the hype around having an office space like that ngl

i feel like i’m not gonna get any work done

i’m not saying be in a shitty office, but a decently sized office with the right amenities should be enough no?

those offices are just there for the insta

[untold hinge]

Did anyone else got ghosted by WM after final round interview or is it just me

[sacred narwhal]

when did you take the final

[untold hinge]

Dec 20th

emailed my recruiter after the hoildays and stuff, no response

idk if me emailing them on weekends had anything to do with that but it is what it is

[grizzled bronze]

If it's been a week since your email, then send out another one tomorrow morning

[untold hinge]

yea will do, it's been 2 weeks

[green pendant]

I know someone personally. he works at least 60 hours a week and hates it there lmao. he's leaving for fanatics next month

[livid yew]

Did meta do new layoffs

[jovial latch]

definitely true at the bigger companies, did fuck all at fidelity

first time around, i finished their 'summer long' project in 2 weeks and then they were surprised i could fuckin handle jira tickets like a normal person

they really just do not expect anything

the smaller companies actually expect and give you shit to do from my experience

lol tesla

[fossil jewel]

isn’t it a meme that your internship was trash if you didn’t push to prod

[jovial latch]

but yea startups n smaller companies are where the real works at, b ut you dont get that name recognition on the resume

[fossil jewel]

[jovial latch]

raise your hand if you know what NeuraFlash is

cause i fuckin didnt before i interned there

[fossil jewel]

yeah start ups aren’t gonna waste their limited income on you if you don’t know shit

[jovial latch]

uh they make bots for clients and theyre a close consulting partner with salesforce apparently

yea the guys i worked with/under wanted me to come back for full time but indians fucked me
apparently they're ah not using their offshore team enough so they're focusing shit there and not hiring in merica

🙃

bit of a clickbait sentence there i guess

as if we need more people trying to learn how to code

lol but yea, they want to lower the salaries

yadda yadda supply n demand

theyre trying to claw back power they lost from the pandemic

probably tbh, its all ads

the layoffs werent even all at the same time, they all just noticed other companies doing it and were like 'ya ill do some of that too'

they want to keep the FAANG image lol

couldnt really give a fuck bout FAANG or whatever the name is theese days

im here cause i just want a job at the moment

everythings an ad

theres absolutely no way you can frame a day in the life vid in a good manner
cause no realistic person would actually bother making such a vid

overconsumption has been a problem for a long time

i mean fuck what was supposed to happen was that you use capitalism to advance tech n shit so that no one has to do anything, but then we stayed on capitalism chasing infinite growth on a finite planet
industrial revolution was aight, but then it just never stopped really

true but you know i could pay rent back then

while working at taco bell

also a mistake

ha anyway my point is boomers had everything and then once they took everything fucked everyone underneath them

so you can make a case for that being the best time to live in

ya zoning

[peak ferry]

for white men cough

[jovial latch]

crazy, next thing you're gonna suggest is walkable cities and trains and public transit
ya been down that whole route

trains are cool

zoning laws suck ass

SWE's gotta be one of the few careers you can still live a comfortable life in america

well i did say one of the few

but only a matter of time before ya cant afford shit as an SWE

the day that happens shit will have truly hit the fan

LA could take a hint or two

mismanaged budget is probably more accurate no?

lotta money probably wasted on dumbv shit

its called capitalism

i mean, everything boils back to that really

Not like someone started a whole crack epidemic back in the day

[peak ferry]

I mean that doesn't make they any more immediately capable of reentering society

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/programs_campaigns/homelessness_programs_resources/hrc-factsheet-current-statistics-prevalence-characteristics-homelessness.pdf

but yea if you look at stats of the chronically homeless, a very large % have serious mental illness/substance abuse/both

[jovial latch]

Tokyo is pretty cool, but then I remember it has to be efficient and well built because there's a whole culture of working like slaves

Take your wins right

God forbid the govt subsidies dumbass musk and his failing companies

My taxes should not be going to a billionaires failing companies

He does not

I sincerely doubt that

[peak ferry]

frankly I'm not sure why/how people find themselves in that situation, but my uninformed take is that the primary cause of substance abuse is not first being homeless.

[jovial latch]

They fucking subsidize billions for him

[pulsar mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972361696603676712/1067322354423836713/IMG_3941.jpg

[jovial latch]

Boeing probably spends it better than musk
Musk is a con artist

Pretty much ya

Capitalism is wasteful

By it's nature

The focus is not on optimal consumption n profit but extracting the most

Aight I'll give you that one

Still don't agree with subsides going to a fucking billionaire

Blegh

That's what the militarized police is for

[peak ferry]

never going to happen in the US

we have fuck all for people and a fuck ton of arable land

[jovial latch]

I look at France and think 'damn we are fucked here'

There's the obligatory NJB link

Nice

You can sum up this whole conversation as, idiots chasing infinite growth on a finite planet instead of just being content with what they have

[peak ferry]

something catastrophically stupid would have to happen for that to be happen. "never" isn't strictly accurate, but it's pretty close..

[jovial latch]

Oh God I was wondering when someone would mention this

It is insane that the entire southwest region is having a water crisis and no one really mentions it

Literally water wars

God las Vegas too

I can only imagine

I mean, what are they gonna do though, waters drying up they gotta move right

god i really hope they dont come up to the northeast

go to florida you idiots

[rain patio]

What happened to Vegas ?

[jovial latch]

nothing, i always just thought of it as tacky and wasteful

the saudis are also idiots though lets be clear

[rain patio]

I live there 💀

[jovial latch]

i mean, we were talking bout suburban sprawl, lotta that in the outskirts of vegas

similar to AZ

lotta water wastage

[peak ferry]

yk arizona isn't actually that far from the coast, just need to annex part of mexico

LOL no shot that's p great

[jovial latch]

desalination will most likely mitigate the problem but not solve it i think

i mean thats the thing right, you cant tech your way out of climate change

at best you can mitigate it

the only way you beat climate change is stop overconsumption and excess waste

but you know, thats like, effort

[peak ferry]

desal can basically solve the issue if you are next to a large body of water. Israel gets some very large % of water thru desal and even does agriculture with it. just requires money, engineering, up keep, and a cross border pipeline in the case of arizona

[jovial latch]

lotta work it seems

if they also severely cut down water waste and densified their cities it could work

however, the latter wont happen

theyre just expecting desalination to keep letting em be wasteful i bet

we should also talk about water rights at this point

[peak ferry]

honestly household water usage isn't really very much, I doubt that is an issue.. not saying it's smart to have a lawn in a desert, but generally agriculture is what takes the bulk of the water

[jovial latch]

from what i know, farmers intentionally farm crops that take the most water because if they dont use the water, they lose their right to it

which is the dumbest fuckin shit

[jovial latch]

no one talks bout this for sure lol

theres a reason farmers are using a fuck ton of water in the desert

[daring gazelle]

by burning oil

no nuclear power = no desalination = countries in Africa, the Middle East and India will have a massive water crisis soon. but who cares tbh I dont like there. The Middle East would be fine they burn oil Idk about the other 2 though

[daring gazelle]

Have you seen the amount of water the use to wash chips?

[lament basin]

anyone know if its possible to get apple ict3 as new grad?

or is it auto ict2

[teal jackal]

Fanatics? What's that

Don't come to new England

We have the most insane zoning laws on Earth

People here are strongly nimby

My cousin is in Japan and decided he's emigrating to the USA the moment he heard about American salaries

[timber rock]

come to old england instead

[azure zephyr]

ppl who don't contribute to the server except dming the op after anything happens on the process channel ...why?

[timber rock]

timeline??? after what round??

[azure zephyr]

DMs: yeah so can u tell me EXACTLY what they asked you, your recruiter's SSN, and your student ID?

[dull wyvern]

anyone done with Flexport OA?

[west egret]

I’ve started not responding to msg requests to randos that I don’t even recognize lol

[dull wyvern]

how many questions and level?

[west egret]

Especially if they basically come here to pump info on exact questions and leave

[timber rock]

my favourite is people dming about places i got resume rejected from

[gray dagger]

MOTHERFUCKER

[teal jackal]

cscd user: !process company reject
Some dumbass: Timeline and what kind of problems did you get?

[gray dagger]

AFTER SPENDING HOURS ON THEIR SHITTY PROCESS 😭

[teal jackal]

Timeline?

jk sorry to hear

[gray dagger]

Idk the timeline 💀

I randomly applied one day and they decided to send me a written interview

[teal jackal]

im joking lol, im just calling out lurkers who start threads and DM everyone who gets rejected

when im in a not-so-good mood i always reject the dm request

[gray dagger]

Which took so long and they were like you passed and sent me a psychometric evaluation

[gray dagger]

😂😂😂😂 bruh

[green pendant]

"I hope you enjoyed the conversations that canonical has presented"

the balls to say that

[teal jackal]

canonical is cool but it sucks that they dont respect their applicants time

[green pendant]

I wanna joke about this too but lord knows I've done this to a few people out of desperation

[gray dagger]

I was like what conversation 😂

It was all one way

They asked about a particular technology I used in my projects 🥲

[livid yew]

[west egret]

Bruh ppl message me about places I applied to last season lmao

[teal jackal]

People message me about places I didn't even apply to

[fossil jewel]

Workday timeline?

questions?

[azure zephyr]

tried to use chatgpt for math the other day and it was so shit

[fossil jewel]

why didn’t you delete workday?

[azure zephyr]

gave me the wrong answer multiple times lmao

[west egret]

Uncle works at WD so I shook his hand and they gib me job obv

It was a rough one day process

[fossil jewel]

can ur uncle be my uncle

adoption application open? What’s the TC and TL like

[west egret]

I tried using chatGPT to find what game to play next and it recommended me games not even on the platform I asked for

[gray dagger]

Quick question has anyone started an llc and sponsored themselves?

[azure zephyr]

omg good idea lemme ask it right now

[fossil jewel]

what platform?

[west egret]

Specifically I was looking at jRPGs because I finished Persona 4 golden recently

[azure zephyr]

lol it told me to play elden ring

[fossil jewel]

i been playing ghost of tsushima on playstation

[west egret]

PC

[azure zephyr]

which is fair i own elden ring but haven't played it yet

[azure zephyr]

thats a really good one

[fossil jewel]

ye it’s pretty fun

i might get a gaming PC soon too

[small mountain]

wait what. is it meant to know how good elden ring is given it was trained before 2021?

[fossil jewel]

oh yeahhh

[small mountain]

AI used all the knowledge of the world to calculate how brilliant its gonna be and got it right

[fossil jewel]

hype probably

[west egret]

first FT paycheck?

[fossil jewel]

perhaps

[small mountain]

S tier game

[fossil jewel]

i work < 1 month

[west egret]

I don't start until June but I might be getting a decent sized tax return from 2022

[timber rock]

Fun fact it also knows elon is ceo of twitter lol

[fossil jewel]

oh

new data ig

[timber rock]

Yeah prob

[azure zephyr]

is it possible that it's pulling data learned from other users?

[fossil jewel]

possibly

funny how we say it’s gonna take our jobs then we provide it with more training to do so

[dusty halo]

How is the Flexport OA?

[small mountain]

if thats the case we should flood it with misinformation

[gray dagger]

Ez

But I heard depending on the OA result you might either get invited to a final or a phone screen

[green pendant]

Disagree. I've seen the questions some of my friends got and the LC question can very easily be a hard

And the sql one is kinda tricky too

It's easy for like 80% of the people but there is a chance it ends up being hard

[gray dagger]

Sql was tiring

[livid yew]

SQL

[gray dagger]

But I liked the api question

Very realistic

[late kestrel]

api q was easy. the lc and sql qs were both pretty bad on mine

[jovial latch]

Aight so l3 fuckin asked me interview availability, and then never followed up with a response lol

I sent a follow up email but man tf

They emailed me on Thursday asking me for interview availability in the next 2 weeks

I can't tell if they're just slow or if they fuckin ghosted me after asking for an interview

[weary flax]

is flexport still hiring

[green pendant]

looks like it yeah

apps are still open

so go for it

[weary flax]

ty

[azure zephyr]

where is flexport even based? are they remote or primarily seattle

[weary flax]

i think seattle and san fran

[green pendant]

Bellevue Chicago and San Fran have primarily been the bases of engineering teams there

Afaik however only Bellevue is still hiring

[gaunt steeple]

Wait guys help. so I got an SWE offer from a small cybersecurity company (they seem legit). Problem is, I didn’t even interview with them, I just sent them answers to some pre-screening questions and then they gave me an offer letter. Is this kind of thing common??

[stuck moat]

That’s sketchy

[gaunt steeple]

Worried that it’s a scam or something… nothing else screams to me that it’s a scam but they also told me to start working on Friday

[stuck moat]

That’s a scam

[gaunt steeple]

L

[stuck moat]

Sorry dude

If you want to be 100% sure

[gaunt steeple]

The grind continues

[stuck moat]

Contact the company but through their website and see if that’s the normal hire procedure

But even then

You can make a fake site

But that hire procedure is 100% sketchy

[grizzled bronze]

That has to be a scam, imagine hiring someone off just some prescreening questions

[fossil jewel]

thats sus asf

[gaunt steeple]

Tbf I do have a CMU degree so maybe they assumed I was smart (I’m not)

[grizzled bronze]

Don't give them your info

[grizzled bronze]

What company is it?

[fossil jewel]

yeah even then they have to vet you're not a complete idiot

[gaunt steeple]

I’ll DM you

[fossil jewel]

it also could've been someone posing as said company

[livid yew]

CMU requires like a a full 2400 SAT I bet

[fossil jewel]

SAT != smarts tho

[livid yew]

Bro I barely got a 30 on my ACT

[fossil jewel]

it just means u can take exams well

[livid yew]

Never took sat

[fossil jewel]

SAT is a test of time

[livid yew]

False. I graduated college with below a 3

[young peak]

True though

Both are high paying sweat shops

You're gonna burn out before you can even touch the money

It ain't golden handcuffs

These are more like golden ropes ya feel

[jovial latch]

thats sus bro you gotta look into that shit

actually, tell us the company name

[livid yew]

Waiting for my burn out

[young peak]

Scam

[young peak]

You probably will never tbh

[livid yew]

Maybe a small bit in college

But I just shoved it deep down

And kept going

[gaunt steeple]

BINGO that's definitely it

welp

the job hunt grind continues

[dusty mauve]

continue with the process

troll them when they start asking for money

[crystal hollow]

"my bank only accepts Bitcoin"

[lunar hatch]

anyone familiar with sunrise futures?

[fossil jewel]

"my bank's physical address is in the metaverse"

[ivory stratus]

Give me their email so i can troll

[fossil jewel]

its disgusting how people scam like that

[livid yew]

My bank is all virtual

[fossil jewel]

i saw on linked on someone who posed as a splunk recruiter

[west egret]

I only accept cash because I don't trust banks

[fossil jewel]

no trust for the IRS

[livid yew]

Idk how to get cash from my account

[fossil jewel]

legal disclaimer: THIS IS A JOKE

[livid yew]

I gotta find an ATM lol

[fossil jewel]

cash is sometimes nice to have

[west egret]

Just give me all your cash

[fossil jewel]

since some places are cash only

[west egret]

I'll take good care of it

[fossil jewel]

in chinatown

wah fung for ex

i still need to try it

[west egret]

I got it while I was visiting

the portion is huge for the large

[fossil jewel]

worth the hype?

[west egret]

and only $7.5

line wasn't that long

[fossil jewel]

if you want some good jbbq thats good for a group or date setting, i'd rec gyu kaku

[west egret]

but I wouldn't go there if you had to wait like 45 mins or something

[fossil jewel]

some really good meat

[livid yew]

Well I recently switched banks

So I am trying to close my old account

[west egret]

the food is worth it for $5-7.5 but don't go there just for it

[fossil jewel]

ah

yeah the area is nice for walking tbh

[jovial latch]

oh ive been there

its aight

[fossil jewel]

i like it a lot

my parents dont like the idea bc you cook the meat yourself

[jovial latch]

right, i mean i went to this kbbq place and they cook it

that was cool cause im lazy

but the jbbq was still nice

[fossil jewel]

ye thats fair

going with friends is nice bc you just chat

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

[ornate cliff]

hey guys any jobs out there? no? aight

[fossil jewel]

[gaunt steeple]

Mood

[dull wyvern]

anyone completed FLexport assessment?

[lone rapids]

U bs or ms

[dull wyvern]

MS

[pastel bane]

do you think data analyst is a dev job?

[green pendant]

Another day another reject

[grizzled bronze]

Each rejection gets us closer to an offer!

[livid yew]

I got 7 rejects today

[grizzled bronze]

Hang in there buddy! It's their loss

[fossil jewel]

all you need is one yes

then all worries are lifted away

[livid yew]

I'm just trying to gauge response rate on my resume

And make updates for 2024 season

[west egret]

When can we start referring btw?

Need to know for the homies

[livid yew]

I'm a 2020 grad. Just shit posting in here 😉

Best of luck to you

[fossil jewel]

one thing y'all can do is just not submit the graduation request and go for summer internships

esp for the may graduates

for internships, perhaps

but idk for your school, if you need to manually apply

like thats what i did

yeah its not you at this point

just headcount

yeah its possible though

[young peak]

With ChatGPT I think ATS systems are getting absolutely demolished

They weight your resume against others and stack rank em

So without micro optimizations you're getting actively screwed

[chilly burrow]

Maybe but it'll take a long time for that to happen imo

They'd have to ensure its free of possible bias

[young peak]

You're giving em too much credit bud

We're tech folk, so we adopt stuff early

[grizzled bronze]

How does this guy have so much time to shitpost?! Where does he work?

[chilly burrow]

Mayb lol

[young peak]

Comcast lmao

[fossil jewel]

fr techie you should be working

[young peak]

Techie top tier worker tho deadass

[livid yew]

I merged 2 PRs today

[livid yew]

and already helped co-worker fix his branch

[fossil jewel]

replace sleep with work

[tardy geode]

dude questions and then answers the question themself

[livid yew]

bro I am so efficient

[young peak]

Techie, any advice on L4 jobs?

[livid yew]

more design Q

[young peak]

Idk where to start with these apps anymore..m

[livid yew]

I work in bursts

[young peak]

Any resources for sys design?

[ornate cliff]

my pronoun is he/him for future reference

[livid yew]

sys design primer on GH is a good start

[tardy geode]

gotcha bro

[livid yew]

also why you applying

[tardy geode]

SIIUUUU

[livid yew]

did you get chopped from G @young peak

[young peak]

Naw I'm the same as you

Just sprucing up the resume to gauge responses

[fossil jewel]

on discord nearly everyone a he

[chilly burrow]

U hav da roles 2

[fossil jewel]

at least im harder to doxx now

[young peak]

I had an insane response ratio, so I'm hoping if I don't change too much it'll still be good

[ornate cliff]

i know eh 🤦🏼‍♂️

[tardy geode]

yeah coz

[fossil jewel]

face reveal

[ornate cliff]

lets see resume

[fossil jewel]

that was during a better time for tech

[young peak]

Fr so I'm not sure hence why gauging responses

I got a Netflix role on my mind for if I do get good ratios still

I got Google so resume screening shouldn't be hard anymore

[fossil jewel]

yeah

[young peak]

That's why I'm LC grinding and sys des lol

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

if your resume got you into google, hopefully its good enough for other places

probably is

[young peak]

That's what I think as well, but 2023 do be weird

Plan is to remove one project, put my Google stuff on it. I'll get it reviewed by ChatGPT and stuff then ship it to like 200-300 companies

[chilly burrow]

I don't really trust chatgpt resume review tbh

[young peak]

It just avoids obvious negatives, which I'm fine with

Minute details I can dig

[chilly burrow]

Everytime I ask ChatGPT for code stuff it fails spectacularly

[young peak]

But sometimes humans miss obvious things

[chilly burrow]

So I don't really trust it anymore tbh

[young peak]

Use it as scaffolding bruh

[chilly burrow]

I hav GitHub Copilot 4 dat

[young peak]

I don't like copilot tbh

[fossil jewel]

i never tried copilot ngl

[chilly burrow]

It's smart autocomplete

It's shit at making anything even slightly exotic

[young peak]

The whole point of copilot is to auto complete boilerplate lol

[jovial latch]

never used copilot either

[livid yew]

[young peak]

Wtf techie

[ornate cliff]

doge?

[livid yew]

I transfered my entire balance to new bank

[young peak]

Aren't you single living with your parents. How tf are you spending 30k?

[ornate cliff]

that a lot of only fans subs

[young peak]

Oh pog

[livid yew]

single, have not lived with parents for a while

also bro I aint spending big bucks on a GF

fuck an expensive lady

[grizzled bronze]

Dang, I need Comcast new grad now

🤑

[fossil jewel]

all the posters and unnecessary stuff he buys

[livid yew]

I need to support @pulsar mural

[fossil jewel]

retro book just to put on his coffee table never to be read again

[young peak]

Living together for exampel

Not about spending ON gf per say, it just so happens that when you're in a relationship then your spending goes up

[livid yew]

I would spend her money

[young peak]

I do too kek

[livid yew]

[ornate cliff]

beta

[livid yew]

[ornate cliff]

stuck in the matrix

[young peak]

She makes more than me lmao

[ornate cliff]

ok fair

[young peak]

Her TC is like 400k, mine is 265k

Although she's gonna go for an MBA full time soon

[ornate cliff]

what she do

[young peak]

So we're cutting down spending as much as I can

23k is too low man, get it to 160k

[livid yew]

the rest is stonks

[fossil jewel]

can you pass me your account and routing numbers for research purposes

[livid yew]

bruh

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

my TC is only 145K

[young peak]

Stock broker

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

oh stonks

[livid yew]

can she broker my beanstock

[ornate cliff]

so last year she made 400k

[grizzled bronze]

@livid yew how tf did you spend $30K in a month

[ornate cliff]

this year 40k probbaly

[grizzled bronze]

Not judging

just wondering

[young peak]

Send cash via mail to PO box

[livid yew]

external transfere

[fossil jewel]

im judging

[livid yew]

PO BOX

[young peak]

Yeah this year it's looking a bit less? Around 200-300k

But idk she barely works

Like 5-10hrs

[jovial latch]

am i tripping thats a lot of money

[fossil jewel]

you got offshore accounts

[livid yew]

[ornate cliff]

fuck... switching majors brb

[young peak]

Market fluctuates a lot == good money

Is what she says

Idk much tbh

[young peak]

It is lol

[livid yew]

@young peak give me insider GOOG info

so I can make options

[eternal hatch]

What's going on here

[west egret]

Damn you need a gofundme

[livid yew]

nah bro

[late kestrel]

ikr hes so poor

[livid yew]

lmao

[late kestrel]

his numbers at the end of his name is actually his current net worth

[fossil jewel]

💀

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

[fossil jewel]

Techie more like Brokie

[west egret]

[livid yew]

[jovial latch]

you know i asked my friend of a non straight variety bout this and apparently those are like, real fuckin pronouns

though i doubt anyone has actually fuckin heard those in real life

idk man shits weird

honestly i thought it ended at he, her, and they

[fossil jewel]

i saw ze/zir before but if im honest, idk what those pronouns are for

[jovial latch]

i dont think anyone does

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/z-knows-gif-21452293

[fossil jewel]

[fervent fern]

did you end up taking the interview?

[west egret]

I just got a rejection that Tackle. Literally do not recall that name at all. I really was shotgunning applications 4-5 months back.

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnzblUhrawr/

😢

[tardy geode]

god save this economy

[ornate cliff]

I'm hu hu

[young peak]

I switched from med to CS. Family was happy since "all my time playing video games paid off"

Like bruh

[granite kindle]

anyone who interviewed at tesla move forward? my recruiter told me there's a headcount issue for some teams so i can't move to virtual onsite :/

[young peak]

Just apply to Twitter

Ez

[jovial latch]

i cant even argue with that joke since iirc elon fuckin brought over tesla engineers to try and fix twitter

[manic dawn]

Thoughts on denver vs nyc, same tc ng?

[fossil jewel]

colorado has some really nice hiking spots

like it’s a beautiful state

[sonic coral]

It’s gonna really depend on what you prefer in terms of dense urban vs outdoors

[rigid bobcat]

Anyone wrote the tiktok hackerrank for this week

It literally doesn’t make sense

[drifting talon]

I did, the last question was terrible

[livid yew]

[young peak]

Is there like a full timers job list or something?

[torpid birch]

Denver is lower col

[ornate cliff]

yeah

list of full time jobs: []

[young peak]

Bruh

[chilly burrow]

R u looking for jobs at startups? Or just established tech?

[young peak]

Hmm y'know I'm not sure I'd be open to both

Just has to help with GC, have good TC and preferably either full remote or based in Seattle

I don't think I can go below my current TC anymore lol

[sonic coral]

Isn’t your current tc like high up in the upper band lmao

[young peak]

Yeah bro

And that's terrifying rn ngl

I'm seeing these high TC folks getting axed

[ornate cliff]

LMAO save up and enjoy the ride my man

[sonic coral]

You might have to cut your losses man if it does happen

[chilly burrow]

R all remote or seatlle

[sonic coral]

Like I’m fully expecting to dip below my tc if I get laid off

[chilly burrow]

Idk TC tho...

[sonic coral]

My plan is basically find someone to take over my lease, move back to parents, hopefully find a new job sometime soon (ideally before payroll runs out)

But hopefully I don’t have to

But ya know always good to be prepared

[young peak]

How tf do you find people to take over your lease

[fossil jewel]

facebook groups or online places

[sonic coral]

I’m gonna start with the internal g groups (ideally my roommates don’t get laid off lmao) but like there’s also leasebreak

[young peak]

Right but the lease break do be a lot lol

[sonic coral]

No leasebreak is a site

For people to take over your lease

[young peak]

Oo

Ugh okay hope it doesn't get to that

[sonic coral]

Yeah same trust me lol

Like don’t get me wrong I have enough savings to last the rest of the lease but ideally I’d transfer to someone else so I can still save up while looking for a job

[livid yew]

why yall in #2023_grads

[rain patio]

Apparently they had like an algo that selected which ppl got fired

[sonic coral]

I’m talking to yogi lol

[rain patio]

High earners + performance + location + tenure

[sonic coral]

Yeah they told us it was “far from random”

[rain patio]

#2023 is the new fulltimers

[sonic coral]

But refuse to disclose the selection criteria

[rain patio]

Lol rip

[sonic coral]

So that’s basically random for everyone except the high level execs making the decisions

In any case in December apparently BCG was spotted at G NYC

So it wasn’t just the execs criteria

[rain patio]

Whats bgc

Bcg

[livid yew]

what is BCG

Big Consulting Group I think

[ornate cliff]

boston consulting group

big lol

[sonic coral]

Management consulting

[ornate cliff]

ya they big

[livid yew]

like WITCH companies

[ornate cliff]

not like witch

faang of consulting

[sonic coral]

Aka they get paid to tell companies who to layoff

[peak ferry]

like McKinsey?

[ornate cliff]

ya

[livid yew]

oh when I hear consulting I think witch/bs jobs

[ornate cliff]

thats swe consulting

[sonic coral]

Nah these are like all MBAs lol

[pulsar mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972361696603676712/1067559651849273506/IMG_3941.jpg

[livid yew]

yeah this is a SWE server, so my assumption is valid

[sonic coral]

I said management consulting tho

Lol

[livid yew]

where

you did

fuck me

[ornate cliff]

you wrong babe

[livid yew]

ok buddy

have a nice day

[ornate cliff]

you too

[livid yew]

[livid yew]

My night was ruined right here

same pic as earlier

get fresh pics

[fossil jewel]

fr, @pulsar mural stop being lazy

go to sleep so that you work your 9-5

time for missiles

[livid yew]

why reply to me

[fossil jewel]

why not

get new DN material

[livid yew]

no

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural is not workign for lockheed currently

[dawn sequoia]

@pulsar mural miss you bb

[fossil jewel]

great, we're safe now

i wouldnt trust a chatbot that fails the turing test to launch missiles

[primal vale]

Is Bloomberg still hiring?

[tawdry skiff]

Remember everyone, you can still make it!

Even if you don't have a job, or a s/o when valentines day is just a month away, things can always change up

https://tenor.com/view/hang-in-there-champ-gif-24075535

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural who is your date for vday?

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural when do I get my raise and bonus

[dull wyvern]

this will be the third time asking the same question 😓

Anyone completed Flexport assessment?

[livid yew]

Nope they rejected me

[sonic coral]

Same lmao

Resume reject last year lol

[green pendant]

oui

[green pendant]

pls don't give me fomo like that

[dull wyvern]

what's the format? how many questions?

[green pendant]

5 questions. 1x medium to medium-hard LC. 1x messy SQL question. 1x easy REST API question. 2x easy MCQ's.

[dull wyvern]

lol, messy SQL

[dull wyvern]

does it have proctoring? if not, i'll use chatGPT

[west egret]

@pulsar mural when do I get my HRT offer?

[prime palm]

Yeah can they get out

[sonic coral]

Nah

[rain patio]

U guys get out of fulltimers

Actually its asss

[pine topaz]

u noticed?

[late kestrel]

get lost old man

scram

[whole roost]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[wheat seal]

They completely changed it

From last year

[green pendant]

no there isn't but I do want to point out that when I put one of the MCQ's through chatgpt after the test it gave me an answer that was not in the options. And then when I put the options and asked it to pick one, it confidently told me that none of the options were correct lol

[ornate cliff]

@dull wyvern what school you go to? Flex ghosted me 😭😭

[rain patio]

[prime palm]

I'm gonna leave when I start ft

You never know if I might have to come back here in case of a rescind

(Praying that doesn't happen lol)

Have you signed?

[dull wyvern]

NYU

[ornate cliff]

nice... did you hear back?

[dull wyvern]

i'm yet to give OA, let's see

[ornate cliff]

good luck

[dull wyvern]

thanks mate!

[teal jackal]

I have to admit I like this car a lot

[rain patio]

waiting to hear back from my oa

[ornate cliff]

beautiful

i love hatchbacks

[teal jackal]

i like the half-wagon half-hatchback segment the most

like the rear area is big enough to pass for either

[ornate cliff]

frickkk those are so good

you mean estates basically

[green pendant]

we still talking about cars?

[ornate cliff]

Maybe at 5 YOE I can afford it

[green pendant]

me at 0 yoe thinking I can afford an A class

I just remember googling "cheapest mercedes", looking at the number and going huh that's not too bad

little did I know

[prime palm]

Yeah

Who did you end up signing with

I think you were debating between 2 offers? Do I have the wrong person?

GG ez congrats on the insane offer

Was Google MTV? Also are you worried about roblox rescinding the offer or nah

Oh you're fine

When did you get the roblox offer when did you grad? R u return intern?

[hardy basalt]

In what sense

[sly laurel]

Anyone appeared for IMC Systems Engineer 3hr Interview ?

[graceful crown]

is flexport considering OPT applicants?

[jaunty storm]

I began applying for new grad in 2017. I spent years and couldn’t land anything decent. I come back to school still applying in a new career.

I really don’t want to be stuck in this cycle forever. I have something waiting for me on the other side. I can’t lose it.

I’m willing to take sub 50% tier pay jobs just for 1 shot at my dream.

I’m tired of competing in this rat race.

[dawn sequoia]

then maybe you're better off being the bigger person and starting your own company?

make your own dream happen instead of waiting for someone to give it to you

[jovial latch]

Why did I get 2 auto rejections at 4 am lol

Why am I up at 4 am

[wheat seal]

How much leetcode have you done and how many projects have you built?

[teal jackal]

LMAO

[jaunty storm]

410 and almost 30 projects on my personal GitHub.

I need to make them a little bigger, but time is always short.

[prime palm]

I'm confused, so you were applying in 2017 and found nothing, went to grad school, and now you're looking for new grad jobs again? Was your masters 5 years?

I don't think this would be beneficial - pretty sure someone in this channel before even said they got rejected because the comapny didn't want masters students

[green pendant]

+1. masters does not necessarily give you a leg up. # of companies that will reject you for having a masters > # of companies that specifically want a masters

[prime palm]

Ahhhh I see

[jaunty storm]

It was my old major. I was really bad at the job hunt back then and gave up. Eventually I gave it up and went back for a CS.

[green pendant]

however PhD is another ballgame entirely

[prime palm]

Ahhhh I see

It's a pretty bad time to be a cs major unfortunately

[jaunty storm]

I’d be broke with the amount of tuition I paid.

[prime palm]

Yeah I'm trying to imagine what 2 bachelors might have entailed

Lol

[jaunty storm]

Yeah. I watch one career end to COVID and another to a recession.

[prime palm]

Might be hopium I'm expecting things to take a turn for the better maybe in like May - June

[jaunty storm]

I got a lot of stem in me. Bachelors in Civil Engineering and Computer Sciences. Minor in Math, and a certificate.

[prime palm]

That all sounds pretty inpressive, def don't recommend a masters at that point lol

[jaunty storm]

Once the inflation is dealt with, there’s not much else to slow the economy down.

[jaunty storm]

Yeah. I spent a ton in class already. Don’t need a masters now.

I can only impress Amazon if I can sort a linked list. Having degrees in all STEM fields be dammed.

[prime palm]

Haha

Yeah I understand where you're coming from

[jaunty storm]

Basically networking hard is the way to go.

Easier said than done.

I’m going to consider pushing graduation to December.

If I luck out for summer, I can be an online student and take a day off to walk the podium.

And with 400+ LC done and counting, I should crush it in an interview technical if it’s easy.

Hard part is even getting a chance to have a technical.

Should I disclose the autism in an interview?

It has hurt my performance in the past.

[prime palm]

yeah i agree....

my last 3 jobs i feel like i got because i just knew the right person at the right time tbh

[rain patio]

dont

[prime palm]

i personally don't believe so

[jaunty storm]

That's exactly it. How else can I get their attention if most of my resumes end up in a shredder?

[prime palm]

to me 'networking' isn't like sucking up to recruiters on linkedin or something

[jaunty storm]

Alright. It feels like a -5 personality debuff.

[prime palm]

it's just making friends with people of your same situation

[jaunty storm]

I been trying linked in a little have no luck so far.

[prime palm]

like i've made a lot of friends in this server who helped me a lot and have connected me to their recruiters and such

i don't talk to anyone on linkedin lol

i don't like the website

[jaunty storm]

That'd be pretty nice to have.

[livid yew]

400 LC sheesh

Man is on big grind

[jaunty storm]

I still have a few weak spots. 2D DP and hard graphs takes time to learn.

[livid yew]

Bro I barely know any LC

You are far ahead of me 😉

I made the mistake of starting it after graduation

[jaunty storm]

I do teach algos in my free time.

[livid yew]

I'm trash at Algo stuff

[jaunty storm]

I plan to come into July with 500 and no weak points.

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

in what way does it hurt interview performance?

I also have autism but I've never asked for accomodations before nor have I ever disclosed it because I don't really know what I'd get out of disclosing

[prime palm]

my advice is

in my entire life of interviewing, i've been asked mostly array / string problems, and tree / graph problems

extremely rarely have i been asked DP, probably < 5

linked lists, also very rarely

i've had a lot of practical interviews though, making an API, debugging, systems design etc.

instead of learning a niche topic like hard multidimensional DP i'd say refine trees + graphs since you said you were weak in that

i've had many many many graph interviews

[teal jackal]

most companies are pretty good about not asking DP or being lenient about your DP answer being half-assed, DP is a tough paradigm

[jaunty storm]

Poor eye contact, lack of emotions, and failing to real facial queues..

[teal jackal]

and oyu wouldn't really know most DP patterns without taking initiative to study them all

[jaunty storm]

Union Find and Bit manipulation are a little overkill.

[teal jackal]

(i mean, you shouldnt be expected to learn DP on your own time tbh)

[prime palm]

i've never bothered to learn union find, nor bit manip

the most "over the top" algorithm i decided to learn was topological sort

and that was actually useful at times

[teal jackal]

bit manipulation is never asked because it's in a completely different realm from most leetcode paradigms

I skipped the bit manipulation study part

[prime palm]

fwiw i've solved ~410 leetcode questions at this point with a 40/50/10 distribution

i did not learn dp, bit manip, most linked list problems, or union find

[jaunty storm]

That's a very strong ratio.

[rain patio]

what is a lot of leetcode

[teal jackal]

I have been asked union find before though

[prime palm]

i think a lot is probably the ~200 mark

[teal jackal]

whats a facial queue?

[prime palm]

he means facial cues

not queue

[jaunty storm]

cues. I meant cues.

[teal jackal]

ah, tbh it just sucks for people like us. I have bad eye contact and a bad stutter

gets me rejected from most behaviorals

[livid yew]

I got plenty of accomodations in school

[rain patio]

are you a furry phelix

[teal jackal]

a lot of my friends are furries, I stand with the furries 100%

[prime palm]

yeah i understand. you can always work on leetcode but working on a stutter or behavioural is just harder

[jaunty storm]

A lot of times they tell me that I'm not excited, when My mood inside is totally different. Had to train the awootism away.

[teal jackal]

yall furries are awesome

[jaunty storm]

I bought a $9000 fursuit.

[rain patio]

im not going to mock you im curious

nice

[prime palm]

god damn

[teal jackal]

$9k is a lot

[rain patio]

they do be expensive

[prime palm]

do you have pictures

[livid yew]

Ayo bro

Cool tho

[jaunty storm]

I don't bring it up in interviews. I just say professional cosplay.

[teal jackal]

i cant swallow that amount
I could buy a whole ass car for $9k

[marsh sand]

Wow 9k

[livid yew]

Not for me.

[teal jackal]

like a used acura rsx

[livid yew]

It's a bit sus

Furry stuff

[prime palm]

@marsh sand hey pengy

[marsh sand]

Hiiii

[prime palm]

whens pltr?

[marsh sand]

I missed u

[rain patio]

yeah 9k is big money

[prime palm]

good luck

what's the office location?

[rain patio]

ive heard 3k never 9k

[marsh sand]

Thank you haha it’s London

[teal jackal]

I get rejected for stuttering, like that just falls under "poor communication"

[marsh sand]

I’ll apparently get another decomp

[teal jackal]

it sucks a lot

[prime palm]

oh right i forgot

[prime palm]

yeah this is brutal for sure