2023_grads

[dawn sequoia]

https://remote.co/

[meager terrace]

[meager terrace]

Dude thank you for this

[dawn sequoia]

yessir

[pastel bane]

for those who get laid off in the US without a green card, does that mean they have to go back to their original country if they cant find a new job in like 2 months?
sorry if this question sounds kind of stupid

[tardy geode]

yes

they got 60 days to find

but if they are married and wife is on h1b too then they can req a change of status and go on h4

[sonic coral]

Don’t they have 60 days after they get taken off payroll?

[tardy geode]

not sure on that , but usually people say count it from the day you get unemployed . USCIS has their own ways

its still a cnfusion amongst many

[green pendant]

feel bad for the kids tbh

I wouldn't mind moving back to my home country but damn those with families have deeper ties to this country

having to move back must be incredibly difficult for them

[teal jackal]

Another day, another dream car

Man if I ever have a driveway I'm gomna own at least 2 cars

A fast weekend car, and a used Saab daily driver

[foggy vector]

Are any new grads getting interviews or just the experience one?

[wheat seal]

U mean internships vs no internships?

From what I’ve seen on LinkedIn, a lot more ppl are posting apps now

[foggy vector]

Internships or full time

[wheat seal]

Just not big tech

[foggy vector]

Oh is that so.

I have just started looking for job how you all are filterning

[wheat seal]

I mean I recommend either using LinkedIn or ripplematch

[analog compass]

anyone know what to expect for jpmorgans hirevue after oa?

[fossil jewel]

super day invite

[green pendant]

ngl my toxic trait is that I can nail an object oriented design interview without preparing for it

[gray dagger]

Share some tips

[analog compass]

Thats after the hirevue right? i already did a hackerrank then they sent me a hirevue link saying its a technical assessment and its 25 min. Do you know what type of questions i should expect?

[pine topaz]

Hey guys, just want to say this is my last day of nitro. I dont know how yall can afford 3 USD per month with this economy. That's like a bag of 10lb potatoes per month. Shoutout and much love to @livid yew for the nitro gift ❤️ I enjoyed it and appericiated it a lot.

[pine topaz]

Also happy chinese new years eve yall ❤️

[fossil jewel]

i assume so

i only had codevue then super day last year but they changed the test platform it seems

they don’t have anymore rounds apart from superday

questions can be LC easy to some coding trivia and oop. and expect resume talk about your projects

for technical

for behavioral it’s all the situational stuff, if you know your stories and STAR it should be fine

[analog compass]

Perfect, thanks so much!

[neon perch]

Is GM sponsoring?

[fallen fox]

no

[tardy geode]

its like starting a new life again

[shut crescent]

it was fairly easy for me

they invited me to a technical assessment afterwards now i gotta do that

[analog compass]

the technical assessment as in the 25 minute hirevue right?

[shut crescent]

oh is that what ur talking about

yeah

didnt u have another test before that?

[analog compass]

ya i got a hackerrank and then once i completed that they sent a hirevue

[shut crescent]

same step then haha

did u take it yet?

[analog compass]

no ive just been looking around online to try to see what type of questions i should expect

but not really any luck

[shut crescent]

yeah idk if this is going to be behavioral + technical or just technical

it does say technical assessment tho so im assuming just another series of coding questions

im debating whether to even do this

[analog compass]

i feel like itll be a mix of technical and behavioral since the hackerrank had the coding questions maybe something along the lines of talking about a project youve worked on and go through the thought process behind it but not sure

[shut crescent]

im pretty sure my other offer is going to be better regardless cuz i have 1 year experience with them

all of my new apps are just getting straight up denied

at the point where i think waiting 6 months is the best choice now haha

[analog compass]

same, the only reason i even got the hackerrank for jp was cause i had a referral

[shut crescent]

its so rough rn

haha

im not getting any interviews back now and a few months ago i was flooded

[analog compass]

ya its tough times now

if you end up taking the hirevue let me know how it goes

[shut crescent]

yeah im probably still gonna do it

ill lyk

probably today tbh

[analog compass]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/jp-morgan-chase-interview-experience-on-campus-2022-23/

this is one of the links i found that talks about the process and some sample questions from the hirevue, not sure if itll be the same for us tho

[dawn sequoia]

anyone know of any new grad/entry level job posting site?

or know where to find startups that are hiring new grad/entry level

[shut crescent]

35 students only lmao

probably less this time around

[analog compass]

Ya thats insane lol

[shut crescent]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/business/google-alphabet-layoffs.html

what a shit time to graduate tbh

lol master students from cornell and all these big schools are getting laid off too

a little ego check going around

[ivory stratus]

jealous that you dont go to a bigN school?

[shut crescent]

i go to ucb im jealous that i didnt go to a smallN school

im getting scammed here

[nocturne oriole]

Typical low tier person at high tier school with mid tier career outcome

[tawdry skiff]

I'm a low tier person at a low tier school with a low tier career outcome

[shut crescent]

i mean it got me a job, and i got all my money back from doing research + internships...but that doesnt mean its not a scam still haha

[rain patio]

I'm a low tier person at a low tier school with a low tier career outcome

[nocturne oriole]

Ok but u have high tier looks so

[shut crescent]

i wouldnt even say it got me a job actually lol cuz these professors are only there for research money

[tawdry skiff]

sorry, I have a bf

[rain patio]

Is this mouser

Where did mouser go

[pine topaz]

@wild terracerunner

[nocturne oriole]

That is 100% mouse yes

[pine topaz]

omg it is mouse

[tawdry skiff]

whos mouse?

[neon perch]

Need some advice on what topics to revise on for an upcoming “business/technical” round for a data engineer role

Like what could I expect for it

[prime palm]

and you play low tier games

sea of thieves scam

[tawdry skiff]

whats wrong with sea of thieves?

atleast I'm not a valorant/league loser

[chilly burrow]

I'm a high tier person

That is all ☺️

[sonic coral]

Wait did mouser get banned lmao

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural

[livid yew]

do you actually need nitro

[rain patio]

Hey guys, just want to say this is my last day of nitro. I dont know how yall can afford 3 USD per month with this economy. That's like a bag of 10lb potatoes per month. Shoutout and much love to @livid yew for the nitro gift ❤️ I enjoyed it and appericiated it a lot.

[pine topaz]

no Im good

i love you techie

[livid yew]

!nitro

[pine topaz]

!nitro

[small mountain]

!dn

[rain patio]

!nitro

[livid yew]

wait u already have nitro

get out of here

[pine topaz]

its ending today

[tawdry skiff]

@everyone
who is mouser?

[rain patio]

Where tf did mouser go

[livid yew]

I mean I cannot afford to gift until bonus

[rain patio]

[livid yew]

[rain patio]

Is mouser alive

[livid yew]

bro I spent $93 on books today

[pine topaz]

please dont gift me anymore nitro, you did enough for me

[livid yew]

new coffee table books

[pine topaz]

[livid yew]

https://retrospekt.com/ --> If you want to waste money on retro stuff

[fossil jewel]

polaroiiid

they're fun to use

[rain patio]

Only fun if ure a vsco girl

If ure a man buy a MANLY item

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/heejin-loona-mobidic-정식의뢰-gif-22173943

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/blackpink-jennie-lisa-rose-jisoo-gif-24641722

[rain patio]

Blackpink in ur area

[river horizon]

$3 USD unaffordable

[pine topaz]

Id rather eat a bag of potatoes instead

[rain patio]

[frank wedge]

What type of bullshit is this

[latent wedge]

Does anyone have any idea what is expected in the Engineering Leadership Deep Dive interview at flexport?

[livid yew]

wdym

[lone rapids]

Does jp morgan hire intl

[twilit wasp]

yes, im international but based in london @lone rapids

[livid yew]

good or bad?

[livid yew]

dn

[timber rock]

if you are in the us, no

[twilit wasp]

why wouldn't they hire intl??

[livid yew]

[lone rapids]

RIP then Ig

[timber rock]

its expensive and too much work i guess

it's much cheaper in the uk and dont have to deal with the h1b lottery

[pine topaz]

come to canada

[livid yew]

no

y'all got maple syrup and thats it

[timber rock]

moose

[twilit wasp]

Wtf lol

[pine topaz]

and peanuts

the peanuts originate from our wages

it is a symbolism of our wages here

[smoky star]

Would the market get better in June?

[nocturne oriole]

the peanuts originate from yahkuna

[smoky star]

I have anxiety disorder, and mental health has been deteriorating with all the negative news 😦

[livid yew]

what is "JHU MS in ACM" mean? @smoky star

[keen sequoia]

johns hopkins university

[smoky star]

Ms student in Applied & Computational Math, ^

[livid yew]

oh

oh

dope

[smoky star]

Put my name for anoter channel

[livid yew]

Masters sheesh

I don't have enough ambition for that lmao

[livid yew]

he was being mean to me in DMs, can you ban him again

yeah but Shareholders come before morale

so

this world runs, sadly on money

[smoky star]

Yes, I would love to believe that the worst has passed, the macroeco doesn't look that bad, FAANG companies have ton of cash

[livid yew]

I mean FAANG did not that many engs tbh

[smoky star]

And Jan is going to be over soon, the budget should have been finalized, no point in doing another round of layoffs

[livid yew]

yes

everyone overhired based on assuming a temporary bump in spending would be indefinite

[smoky star]

We can assume that 2024 would be a rebound year?

[livid yew]

for sure

the worst of COVID is over

at least in America

I know China had another spike somewhat recently

but I mean, this is all their fault

not really

I would say thru the end of Winter/early spring is gonna suck

2023 grads, you might have a weird period of months between grad and no SWE job

that is what happened for me in 2020

[smoky star]

2020 was hard as well right?

[livid yew]

Mainly cause when COVID hit, everyone was confused and had no clue what to do

[smoky star]

I was not in the market in 2020

[livid yew]

yeah

I graduated in May 2020, worked 3 part-time cashier jobs until October 2020

then got dev job

[smoky star]

Respectable

[livid yew]

then got new job last summer, doubled my TC

[livid yew]

I had plenty of money in the bank

[smoky star]

It is inspiring dude

[livid yew]

but I wanted to do something

this is your year

[smoky star]

Are you in the U.S?

[livid yew]

[rain patio]

I wish apple had a standardized process, no clue what to study

[smoky star]

You are processing with Apple for NG?

That sounds really great

[rain patio]

yeah, there are a bunch of rounds tho so its pretty intimidating

[smoky star]

Good luck mate, it is like one of the best places you can have interview with atm

Could you share a bit abt your profile?

[rain patio]

previous amazon internship and some small personal projects

thats pretty much it

[nocturne oriole]

How about I ban u for being a snitch

@pulsar mural 👍

[livid yew]

[weary flax]

@livid yew

[pulsar mural]

@livid yew

[weary flax]

hey gimme

@pulsar mural

[fossil jewel]

well deserved

[fossil jewel]

good job @pulsar mural

[fervent drift]

yo

[fossil jewel]

why u using airplane mode

[fervent drift]

good question

how tf is he on discord with airplane mode

[fossil jewel]

wifi

is why

he is flying

[jaunty basalt]

Stop talking shit about my phone usage

[fervent drift]

im styupid af

[rain patio]

when does your "new grad" role expire

[jaunty basalt]

[grizzled bronze]

Turn off Airplane mode, I sent you some text messages

[fervent drift]

1 year buffer

[livid yew]

why ping me bro

stop

[jaunty basalt]

If the receiver is the sender how does this make sense

[teal jackal]

am i the only one who thinks going to the gym is excruciatingly boring
How do I make it suck less

[split plaza]

Do you go to a target school

[teal jackal]

zon gang

[rain patio]

a non cal/ucla UC

[teal jackal]

did your bar raiser fuck u over too

for the intern return offer

or was it headcount full

[rain patio]

no I got it but it got delayed by 6 months

[teal jackal]

ohhhhh

yeah that sucks

[rain patio]

so back on the grind

[teal jackal]

im done tho fortunately

[fossil jewel]

he has an alt

several

[teal jackal]

good luck with apple bro

and all your other processes

[fossil jewel]

gl with apple

[split plaza]

don't mean to pester but around how long did it take for them to get back after applying

[jaunty basalt]

Bro ik that, I’m saying it’s my screenshot

I use airplane mode all the time

[fossil jewel]

why tho

for ads?

scratch that, wifi still on

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz vibes

[fossil jewel]

[jaunty basalt]

Made me think there was a new grad server

[fossil jewel]

[jaunty basalt]

I wanted to know what the nyc office was like cuz when I tried to convince my recruiters to give me nyc I learned nothing

[fossil jewel]

nyc or bust

[jaunty basalt]

Eh, we kind of already here

So it’s ez choice

[fossil jewel]

exactly

why leave

[tender sluice]

how to find job?

[jaunty basalt]

For no income tax

I take like 20k off base and go to another state and make about the same

[wheat seal]

U got offer?

[jaunty basalt]

It’s gonna be crazy with other brackets

[rain patio]

Bro

That’s pretty sus

[jaunty basalt]

I don’t eat cereal with milk

[rain patio]

U good

[fossil jewel]

even in jersey, your taxes would be more reasonable

[jaunty basalt]

But it’s jersey

[jovial latch]

yes jersey is definitely very bad dont come here

[jaunty basalt]

I heard they bite

[fossil jewel]

ye

who would go to jersey voluntarily

[jaunty basalt]

I would if the right person came along

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural move to jersey

[fallen fox]

can you reapply to gm w/ a different email

if you get rejected after oa the first time

might as well i guess

[quasi needle]

Anyway did these type of interviews before?

HireVue, where I have to record myself solving techinical questions, each question is around 3 min long, and i have 30 seconds to prepare

[fallen fox]

is that auto oa? or after resume screen

[rain patio]

like a month

[viral wadi]

yeah I did it once

it's a bit wonky

as a tip just write down or remember the work you did before you click submit

cause they'll ask you to record a 30 second video talking about how you got to that answer

but you won't have access to the answer anymore

[quasi needle]

Auto oa j believe

[analog compass]

Did u do this hirevue already?

Are they leetcode style questions or just general data structure questions?

[neon perch]

Anyone interviewing with CVS for data engineering?

[quasi needle]

not yet, gonna do it tmr

[shut crescent]

thats a start now just type that in google

[shut crescent]

i ended up not doing it lmao

[glossy galleon]

Anyone done an interview with UBS?

[vital meteor]

anyone hiring rn

[charred cliff]

Tik tok

[gray dagger]

Wendy’s

[tardy geode]

God save this tanking economy FFS

[ivory stratus]

I got laid off and i havent even accepted an offer yet 🥺

[teal jackal]

I'm enjoying a pimento cheese quesadila rn
It tastes great

i enjoyed it

its over now

[tardy geode]

Q1 is Jan1 to march 31?

[livid yew]

usually

[primal vale]

the hirevue is actually mostly behavioral questions

you should receive this after hackerrank

next step is hackathon in Mar

[jovial latch]

Fuck I graduate in May

Also my god mandatory 12 hour hackathon

[split plaza]

12-hr final round lmao

[jovial latch]

Jesus Christ that just feels like abuse

[timber rock]

virtual too lol

[jovial latch]

Wow, it's almost as if they want people that would dedicate their entire life to the job

🙃

[livid yew]

I mean 12hrs is like a normal school day

so

[timber rock]

wtf kinda school did you go to lol

[livid yew]

I had 8am and 6pm class senior year

so I was on campus all day

[fossil jewel]

huh

[livid yew]

I guess most people schedule better lol

[fossil jewel]

is this regular application???

last year my on-site was just 2 hours

[livid yew]

Yeah I took 19 credits my 8th semester

big mistake

[timber rock]

idk what that means i aint a true american patriot

[fossil jewel]

that sounds like a you problem

[livid yew]

what

[jovial latch]

Take a 12 hr hackathon and maybe get an offer

[timber rock]

i took 60 credits this semester so i guess im better

[fossil jewel]

[jovial latch]

Yea fuck that idc how well they pay

[livid yew]

oh so for us each class was like 3-4 credits

[fossil jewel]

i thought code for good was its own process ngl

[timber rock]

1 class is 10-20 credits here

[fossil jewel]

it is, unless they changed recruiting

[livid yew]

ok so factor of scale i guess

[timber rock]

higher number = better

[livid yew]

false bro

[fossil jewel]

credits are based on how often a class meets per week

[livid yew]

stop dick comparing bro

[fossil jewel]

so 3 credits means it’s roughy 3 hours a week

[livid yew]

I think something like that

[fossil jewel]

so techie has 19 hours sitting in class a week

[livid yew]

in lecture

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

and then the rest is homework, coding, labs, and a part-time job

[fossil jewel]

then they say for every credit, you’re to study for 3 hours

i never did that

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

some classes required more

[livid yew]

I did for some classes

facts

my algorthim class was my hardest class

[timber rock]

for me 1 credit = 10 hours over the semester

[livid yew]

like I barely got a B- in that bro

[jovial latch]

Credit numbers are no indication of effort, I've had 20 credit semesters were I only showed up to 1 class consistently out of 7

[livid yew]

I went to every lecture usually

cause I was bored as fuck at home

[fossil jewel]

cs classes raised my gpa

[livid yew]

they lowered mine

[fossil jewel]

electrical engineering

EE made cs classes seem more reasonable

it’s not some black magic waves you don’t see

[livid yew]

I took no EE classes

was not required

[fossil jewel]

ye i was comp eng and comp sci

if i was cs then not needed

[livid yew]

you took 2 majors

sheesh

[jovial latch]

It sort of speaks to the difficulty of comp eng and EE when the 2 hardest classes in my CS curriculum were OS and computer architecture

Lol

[fossil jewel]

nah it was half cs half ee

[livid yew]

weird

[fossil jewel]

every uni does it weirdly

[livid yew]

os was easy tbh

arch was a toss up

[fossil jewel]

some make it electrical and comp eng where you do more embedded

[livid yew]

I started as comp eng

[fossil jewel]

mine is just half of both

[livid yew]

and then switched sophomore year to soft eng

[jovial latch]

College dependent
No prof here can teach OS good so they keep rotating in a different prof each semester

[fossil jewel]

i didn’t do cs theory so idek what some shit is

[livid yew]

same

[crystal hollow]

did you guys have to study theory of conputation / automata

[fossil jewel]

i didn’t

[livid yew]

nope

[fossil jewel]

cs majors did in my school i think

[timber rock]

no

[jovial latch]

O I did

Required for me

[dawn sequoia]

yeah, required

[livid yew]

I was not a CS major

so

[dawn sequoia]

already talked about it here before but i hated that class

[fossil jewel]

you were swe?

[jovial latch]

Lot of cs majors at my uni bitched bout discrete math and automata lol

[fossil jewel]

those are the cs classes i had

[crystal hollow]

i had it last semester, as with a lot of my classes I wish that I had time to go back and learn it more thoroughly

[jovial latch]

Cause a large chunk of cs people don't like math apparently

Funny

[dawn sequoia]

why?

[fossil jewel]

big data, image proc and ml were my chosen electives

[dawn sequoia]

solid

[livid yew]

yep

[crystal hollow]

discrete math was pretty easy

[fossil jewel]

discrete and the top class were the ones i struggled with the most

[jovial latch]

People were like 'ahhhh actual proof based math n shit this isn't python code reee'

[fossil jewel]

i dropped the top class once that’s why it’s repeated twice

[crystal hollow]

idk linguistics is a weird field and the intersection with cs is kind of interesting

[jovial latch]

I thought it wasn't that bad

[dawn sequoia]

i loved discrete math but from talking about it with friends from other schools, my school had an easy class. tutored for it a lot too

[fossil jewel]

linguistics is interesting

languages and stuff

[dawn sequoia]

my housemate majored in cs and minored in ling

[fossil jewel]

we’re seeing chat gpt go wild

stuff with neural nets requires a higher degree, undergrad doesn’t do it justice

[crystal hollow]

yeah nlp is going to be big on linguistics for a while yet

I'm mostly just sad that most of my undergrad was taught by adjuncts and part timers

don't feel like I learned as much as I should have

[fossil jewel]

no tenured people?

[jovial latch]

Ml has been blowing up in the last 5 years

[livid yew]

I know nothing about ML/Ai

[fossil jewel]

i think i had a split between tenured and adjuncts

[livid yew]

like nothing

[fossil jewel]

me neither

[jovial latch]

It felt wild to learn bout shit from papers released like 2 years ago

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

[fossil jewel]

i can probably do it given i have the tools

[crystal hollow]

i have had three tenured profs so far and I graduate in may

[jovial latch]

Nlp is all like last 5-7 years

[fossil jewel]

but the class was a lot of math

[livid yew]

ok I did my 2 LC for the day

[fossil jewel]

some tenured profs suck ngl

it’s only 1 pm

almost 2

[livid yew]

I have been awake since 8 bro

which is late for me

[crystal hollow]

i had a good lifer prof for OS

[fossil jewel]

oh

[livid yew]

I usually wake up around 7am

[crystal hollow]

but not for DS&A

[livid yew]

when the walk to work is 7min, so I wake up, shower, and play cod for a bit

[fossil jewel]

first few cs classes, assembly and comp org took me a while to grasp

i’d imagine theory tripping me up

maybe

EE had a lot of theories and that was pain

[crystal hollow]

i took digital logic at a CC before I had to take assembly and org, that made it a lot easier to grok I think

[jovial latch]

Professor dependent
Your more abstract proof math based shit naturally requires more time and effort so you need a prof that can explain that shit good

[fossil jewel]

i loved digital logic

it wasn’t cs though

[crystal hollow]

it was required for my associate in cs but not taught at all at my uni

[fossil jewel]

i was into fpga’s for a bit till i took comp org and the lab with it, then i was like i’m good

[foggy perch]

wtf I despised digital logic lmao

[fossil jewel]

01

[foggy perch]

was digital logic ee stuff for you too

for me it was we had to use verilog to simulate a cpu or something

[fossil jewel]

that was comp org’s lab

vhdl

[foggy perch]

wack

[fossil jewel]

it wasn’t the hardest thing, but it was just too time consuming

and prof was shit

[crystal hollow]

my comp org class was 50% the prof fanboying on zoom about the M1 mac

[fossil jewel]

someone was able to get an A bc he impressed the prof with the m1 in the next semester lmaoo

prof didn’t know about it

[crystal hollow]

and also ranting about his idea to pipeline water to cali from the great lakes

[fossil jewel]

digital logic for me was the 01 and all the logic gates, flip flops and such

that was easy tbh

[foggy perch]

ye mine included that too

wack I hated my digital logic

[fossil jewel]

oh my school split it

digital logic stopped at flip flops

[foggy perch]

at my school for cs majors, digital logic and theory of comp are some of the most hated classes

[crystal hollow]

yeah we diagrammed a bunch - muxes, registers, last assignment was a rudimentary ALU

[fossil jewel]

comp org and it’s lab included mips, assembly, low level shit and the lab was vhdl

[foggy perch]

I only passed my digital logic class because people from past semesters uploaded their hw answers

lmao

[fossil jewel]

my last assignment was a cpu

single cycle mips

[foggy perch]

same

[fossil jewel]

mine didn’t work

[foggy perch]

mine was a multi cycle mips tho I think

[crystal hollow]

didn't do anything really in comp org lol all the work was quizzes

apparently the assembly course + lab was a big gatekeeper but I took it at CC and was super easy

[fossil jewel]

that’s the big brain move

[crystal hollow]

so I learned a little bit about x86 asm but didn't know about mips or arm until day 1 of comp org

[livid yew]

I learned a bit of logic/circuits from Minecraft lmao

[fossil jewel]

yeah i had two assembly courses, one was x86 and the other was comp org with mips

[livid yew]

Redstone circuits

[fossil jewel]

we built a game in x86

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

it was a pain in the ass and too many lines of code

but rollercoaster tycoon was written in x86

[crystal hollow]

i just need what that guy has

[fossil jewel]

crazy

[crystal hollow]

a nice quiet lab in scotland

just fall into the void of programming for two years straight

i really need a workshop or lab space at home

[dawn sequoia]

hahaha i just came across this application in my search

[foggy perch]

maybe they're just being inclusive of people who calculate in zimbabwe dollars

[fossil jewel]

one of my fave games was made by one guy

stardew valley

[foggy perch]

same

for me it's probs Terraria, then Stardew Valley tho

[fossil jewel]

i never tried terraria but it looks similar

[jovial latch]

Return of the obra dinn was made by 1 guy a think, amazing game

[livid yew]

Sussy

@fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

niceee

[livid yew]

yessir

AliExpress

[tardy geode]

prayge for the upcoming week

[livid yew]

[dawn sequoia]

[split plaza]

[grizzled bronze]

[fallen fox]

[rain patio]

[fossil jewel]

[rain patio]

[green pendant]

[pine topaz]

[crystal delta]

[livid yew]

[nimble shore]

[nocturne oriole]

[karmic harness]

[timber rock]

[west egret]

[lament basin]

jw, if u had to choose between apple and patreon for ~ same tc & location

which one would u guys take

[plush crane]

[jovial latch]

[split plaza]

Apple 100%

[lament basin]

what tc difference* would justify going with patreon

[fossil jewel]

apple, due to being more secure

also work at apple seems more interesting tbh

[karmic harness]

aint no job secure

if thats what ur saying

[lament basin]

i think he said more secure relative to patreon

[karmic harness]

idk man

[fossil jewel]

layoffs happened due to overhiring

apple for sure didn’t over hire

[lament basin]

apple seems very picky with their process

[karmic harness]

google had no reason to layoff

and guess what

[livid yew]

overhire

[karmic harness]

they said i want to do it

[fossil jewel]

investors told them to lay off people

[lament basin]

bro google overhired so hard

[karmic harness]

monkey see monkey do

[lament basin]

literally everyone had an offer from there for 2022*

[livid yew]

Google wanted to play with the big kids

[fossil jewel]

what investors say, goes

[livid yew]

yeah

Hey my Google stonks were up this week

so I am happy

[lament basin]

breh

[livid yew]

lmao

[fossil jewel]

the fact that those 12k are only 6% of google’s labor is wild

[livid yew]

6% of that is 8400

[sonic coral]

They did tho, they had a prominent investor asking for it

[fossil jewel]

must’ve seen the statistic wrong in some other place then

[fossil jewel]

oh silly me

[livid yew]

2021

[fossil jewel]

they hired more into 2022

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

yep

google layoffs don’t seem money motivated, their investors told them to reduce the headcount and employee numbers

bc the profit wasn’t hitting their targets

or something along those lines

[tawdry skiff]

I thought Google had too much money?
Weren't they doing alot of stock buybacks recently

[fossil jewel]

apple probably

but even if google, profit can be up but not to investor standards

[jovial latch]

jesus christ why does canonical have such a long ass interview process lol

[fossil jewel]

for ubuntu

[lament basin]

psychometric assessment

wtf

lol

[fossil jewel]

oh it’s like

games

[jovial latch]

dumb bs shit

basically

[fossil jewel]

to gauge your personality

it’s not too. hard but i think judging based on them is dumb

[jovial latch]

first fucking time ive had to answer all this dumb shit though

[lament basin]

i hate stuff like that

[lament basin]

whats the tc at this place lmfao

[fossil jewel]

more than 0

[jovial latch]

i mean probably at least above average these twats make ubuntu

[fossil jewel]

ik swe at gh before msft acquisition was still good money

[jovial latch]

well all i know is they definitely have a really, really stupid interview process

[fossil jewel]

i agree

[jovial latch]

who the fuck asks about fuckin high school shit

jesus christ

[fossil jewel]

but hey i guess they don’t want pure LC monkeys

[livid yew]

yeah

if you graduated college, its assumed you grad HS

[jovial latch]

highly tempted to just respond back wtih 'see resume'

however, i need a job

probably crank this out while stoned at some point

[fossil jewel]

that doesn’t mean experience in hs matters as much

i wouldn’t trust high schoolers considering they don’t have developed brains yet

so why judge someone on their hs experience

[jovial latch]

there is absolutely no one who thinks they were their best selves at HS

[pine topaz]

I peaked at highscool

[jovial latch]

i find it fucking hilarious though that somehow there are 3 whole phases before getting to an actual relevant interview

[fossil jewel]

i bet life was downhill since then

considering the fact that your alt says at maximum two words

[jovial latch]

well shit has certainly not gone uphill since 2018

[fossil jewel]

@pulsar mural

[pine topaz]

@fossil jewel i literaly have a dysfucntional relationship with her, she keeps stonewalling me with wazowskis

[grizzled bronze]

https://careers.moodys.com/job/16617830/moody-s-analytics-technology-rotation-program-new-york-ny

[karmic harness]

aint no way im answering

on to the next job

[livid yew]

@grizzled bronze recipe needs milk

no milk in fridge

[pastel bane]

Im seriously considering going to IT consulting companies, hope it wont ruin my resume and future career

[fossil jewel]

it’s a her???

surprising if true

[crystal hollow]

canonical is a notorious interview process lol

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural Please know that Im always here for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAyKJAtDNCw

[gray dagger]

I got this psychometric assessment thingy, I’m not sure if it’s worth the time

They already had me write a ton during the written interview

Not sure if it’s automated either

[jovial latch]

i'm at the fuckin written part myself im debating if its worth it lol

logically its like, ok i do a buncha written shit, a pyscho thing, and then some culture interview to maybe get a technical interview

[gray dagger]

I did the written part on my phone watching a movie 💀

Pretty sure they’re gonna ask about my open source contributions during the culture fit interviews anyways, which I don’t have many

[jovial latch]

what do they expect open source contributions?

wait is that what a 'culture fit' means?

[gray dagger]

I don’t know

But considering they’re the pioneers of Ubuntu (open source) and the questions during the written interview I get a feeling that they care about it

[jovial latch]

i have exactly 0 open source contributions

mostly because i dont enjoy coding in any context in my free time

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

chat gpt

[livid yew]

I do some open source stuff

/vscode

[fossil jewel]

good, steal techie's contributions

[livid yew]

bro

no

[jovial latch]

i will say canonicals recruiters be on crack or something cause they out here grilling me bout how i was in high school

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

@fossil jewel

[gray dagger]

Extensions?

[livid yew]

yeah I made an extension

and then have like 1 merged PR to the core vscode repo

[gray dagger]

They’re from Europe maybe they care about that over there

[gray dagger]

Is it vscode java runtime extension?

Jkjk

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

bro

stop being lazy

[fossil jewel]

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/tasting-milk-antony-starr-the-homelander-the-boys-lick-gif-17834498

I had to watch a movie on a pirated streaming site (starts with a B and rhymes with Netflix) instead of Netflix, since B actually played it in HD while Netflx is a little choppy

[livid yew]

Bro fuck Netflix

Pirate all the way

[vital meteor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/thsrcp/this_was_the_first_step_in_the_interview_process/

[jovial latch]

Well that puts things into perspective

[fossil jewel]

even the linux community is like wtf

[jovial latch]

yea im not going to do it

as desperate as i am for a job, i shouldnt lower my standards

[gray dagger]

Is it broflix?

[fossil jewel]

if anything, this is so disrespectful to applicants

you can bet a lot of linux people arent cs majors

[jovial latch]

yea, hell i might even give em a piece of my mind with the process

respectfully

ima look this shit up on glassdoor and i bet its some dumbass ceo

[fossil jewel]

HAVE YOU GIVEN INDUSTRY TALKS

what are they looking for

this is a new grad job???

[jovial latch]

probably i didnt look to hard

[grizzled bronze]

without the ro

[fossil jewel]

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/canonical/salaries/software-engineer

thats good pay for europe positions ( i think)

[grizzled bronze]

Fuck that, all that for a shit paying open source job

[gray dagger]

For a second I was worried if you found my site 💀

[fossil jewel]

otherwise, US salary is meh (considering this effort)

[vital meteor]

SAP is similar TC iirc and they ask like 2 lc questions

[nocturne oriole]

Never post this emote here again

[fossil jewel]

it reminds me of andrew tate

[pine topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqgVNrGOsug

[jovial latch]

Oh God don't even talk bout him on here

He ain't worth the thought

[teal jackal]

I have to say that the techbro and the carbro in me are at war with each other

I'll lose my enthusiasm towards cars if the EV scene is too boring, and if there's no meaningful ways to add diversity to electric cars in terms of performance

The techbro side is destroying my equally beloved, the carbro side

[livid yew]

EVs are dumb

Gas guzzler for life. The planet is already dead

[errant karma]

Let them buy EV’s less demand on gas leads to low prices

[livid yew]

Idk gas here is like 3.45

Not the worst

Back in Wisconsin it was under 3

[jovial latch]

EVs arent that much better when you consider the resources needed to make EVs

[errant karma]

Well with everyone buying EV we might be getting gas at $1 per gallon

[livid yew]

Tbh I just need a new car with Bluetooth and lane assist

Both standard these days

[jovial latch]

The true answer is to have less car dependeny and more public transit n other shit but that won't happen

[errant karma]

Welcome to NYC

[jovial latch]

All the companies are selling EVs now cause people feel bad bout the planet or whatever

It's what's in rn

Yadda yadda green washing

[jovial latch]

I am in the area

[fossil jewel]

NYC or bust

[livid yew]

Imagine caring about the planet

[fossil jewel]

but i miss snow

[livid yew]

Bro there was plenty of it when I was home for Christmas

In Chicago

[thin cipher]

How’s the job market rn

Just curious

Any statistics on that

I recently got laid off with only 8 months exp

[potent ledge]

Rip sorry bro

[potent ledge]

Quite bad

[sonic coral]

Aren’t we about to break a snowless consecutive day record soon

[fossil jewel]

yeah the coldest we had was before the holidays but it was still just a bit of snow

nothing much even

didnt stick

[sonic coral]

Bro we’re about to break a record from 1973

Fuckin wild

[fossil jewel]

[dapper jasper]

Anyone heard back after tiktok OA 12/26-12/30? I'm pretty sure I got 3/3 and radio silence

[jovial latch]

Eh I mean, I'd like to be able to retire but I'm betting on water wars or nukes doing me in

🙃

I do miss snow, used ta snow a lot more in NJ

Not much snow in recent years

[neon perch]

Haven’t heard back from them in 3 months with a perfect OA

[harsh socket]

Hello guys,
do you know any useful resources that you recommend for system design interviews ?

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnoDCdiKDT6/

[lament basin]

alex xu book

[harsh socket]

Thank you so much !

[unreal current]

Hello, Can you please tell when does the new grads roles for 2024 will be coming out?

[lament basin]

around august

[unreal current]

Do these positions start from January'24 then? I'm graduating December'23.

[lament basin]

i think most graduations take place in the summer

so they would likely be for summer 2024

but again it depends on the company

[teal jackal]

optional on all the luxury car brands

even the base model elantra got em for free

audi and bmw charging extra for them 🤡

[timber rock]

just did my first sys design interview poggers

i hope to never have to do that again for the foreseeable future

[teal jackal]

Damn

did u do alright

[timber rock]

yeah think it went well

[teal jackal]

[timber rock]

the guy really grilled me on all my design choices but he was pretty nice

[teal jackal]

polite grilling is fine, but sometimes interviewers are hardasses for the sake of being hardasses or they want you to fail

usually the tone will tell

I woke up today and am like

I WILL own a Golf R someday

[teal jackal]

https://jalopnik.com/dodge-will-completely-control-performance-upgrades-on-i-1849965859

Me and the boys gonna pirate the software on our 2054 EV crossovers to get 1800hp from each in-axle electric motor

[young peak]

Used to think this way. It ate me alive. Glad I broke down and reworked this mindset early on or I would be in med residency rn lol

Asians like us have the tendency to give all of ourselves for family, while never stopping to think about our own feelings. I'm not saying don't care about your family, but just try to relax if you can

[teal jackal]

its a good cultural value to support your family, but the idea that failure is not an option can lead to bad decisions in the long run

[livid yew]

Sadge Asian family culture sounds rough

[teal jackal]

the reel the guy sent is nice and all but the "failure isnt an option" mentality gets toxic

[young peak]

Disregarding a whole other host of problems, it plain and simple just makes you dumber. You make more radical decisions, take more risk and overall just fail to understand what pragmatism means

I'm saying this as a guy that still puts family pretty high on the priority list

[livid yew]

As the middle child, I have 2 other siblings that step up if needed

[young peak]

Usually the eldest that thinks this way tbf

[livid yew]

My older sister and her fiance are buying their first house in Toronto

[teal jackal]

are u canadian

[livid yew]

Well I'm the forgotten child bro

Nope

Her fiance is

[teal jackal]

ah

[young peak]

Is he french?

[livid yew]

Ummm

No?

I don't think at all

Tbh he is sorta like the brother I never had

[late kestrel]

[pine topaz]

@tardy geode our prayge for this week did not work

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/23/2023-layoffs-spotify-slashes-6-of-jobs-in-latest-tech-onslaught/?sh=1578997a58f0

[gray dagger]

What the f

Spotify too??

West coast folks waking up to these laid off emails 💀

[green pendant]

imagine minding your own business having a nice day but then sundar pichai decides to lay you off

I'm really happy for the (relatively) non-evil smaller companies that are getting good talent in this market

although once big tech hiring picks back up talent retention will drop so low rip

[livid yew]

Yeah people will hop back to big tech for the pay

[fossil jewel]

yeah that’s when those companies should be paying more

[livid yew]

Oh I'd jump for a 250k offer asap

[green pendant]

I will personally pole dance for the ceo of any company that offers me that kind of money ngl

[fossil jewel]

shame, i would’ve liked to work there

[gray dagger]

I wanted to work for Spotify so bad after watching their documentary on Netflix

[fossil jewel]

their nyc office is nice

it’s in WTC

[gray dagger]

Too bad I don’t think they hire new grads

[jaunty basalt]

They do just not us

Spotify is great

Insider info

[gray dagger]

You didn’t have to put it like that 🥹

[rain patio]

spotify is long term goal

i'll see y'all there

yeah all of their ng roles are return offers from their internships

[gray dagger]

Starting up my company is the long term goal

[fossil jewel]

i’ll see u there my homie

we gonna play music together

[pine topaz]

no. how about u code n do ur job

[timber rock]

1 week in i already dropped my operating systems class

[west pagoda]

So banks and defence are less evil

Bc they’re one of the very few ppl hiring any significant number of new grads rn

Feel like most smaller tech companies or startups are v cash strapped still

[livid yew]

Ok @pulsar mural

[fossil jewel]

imagine coding

[livid yew]

tf

[fossil jewel]

coding is fun but i’m not gonna make it my whole life like when i was in school

[green pendant]

Non tech companies hiring for tech roles?

Healthcare Retail etc

[rain patio]

Iu best girl

[tardy geode]

😭

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural why u being mean to kirb

[nocturne oriole]

[tardy geode]

justice for kirb

[fossil jewel]

no justice

[livid yew]

[pine topaz]

CAN YOU STOP BEING A SNITCH

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-doug-maclean-kyper-i-smell-a-rat-gif-26094354

[foggy vortex]

does anyone know how long JPM takes to get back after the HireVue?

[jovial latch]

Feedback to Canonical eh?

[green pendant]

has anyone tried applyinf gor internships too? at least the ones that don't specifically mention having to go back to school after the internship

imo an internship isn't a bad idea at least you remain employed lol

plus ig we can apply for 2024 ng positions too right?

[timber rock]

Yeah I'm applying to both

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-poyo-ominous-dance-gif-25486315

give em this feedback , the caption in this gif

[obsidian marsh]

yall think hudl will still move me forward if i said i'm not willing to relocate and i live in a state where they can't hire

[green pendant]

Life Pro Tip: If you have multiple interviews with multiple companies in the same week, don't answer "Why do you want to work for Company X?" with the answer you prepared for Company Y the recruiter will give you a very weird look

[fossil jewel]

do it do it

[finite stone]

anyone passed a spacex offer and have advice on how to prep.
just failed an onsite, despite feeling great about it, and would like to know how to prep for the future

[outer radish]

ya'll i just realized

job apps are like tinder

[pine topaz]

I cant relate. I have much better callbacks in Tinder because of my looks.

[drifting talon]

and applicants are guys who swipe right on everything and the companies are girls who are selective af

[outer radish]

Respectable women love nuggets

And im all outta nuggets

[tardy geode]

[rain patio]

do you work on wendys mobile app

[outer radish]

No i work on the ai sauce development side

[rain patio]

work on the wendys mobile app

[tardy geode]

are you hiring ?

[outer radish]

We feed a metal tongue that uses artificial intelligence to measure the zestiness ratio of the sauce in Parts per million

[outer radish]

sorry we only hire internally

Its a family business

[livid yew]

Need more books

Well it is a No Meeting Monday

And I'm usually a week ahead on my work. Bro not all teams have goated WLB

[tardy geode]

i see

[jovial latch]

then what would the tinder equivalent of canonical be

oh

simps

ya ok job apps is totally like tinder

[rain patio]

https://www.amazon.com/Food-Sichuan-Fuchsia-Dunlop/dp/1324004835/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1YCOE1W6G5809&keywords=sichuan+cookbook&qid=1674505088&sprefix=sichuan+cook+book%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-3
if you like sichuan, solid cookbook

[livid yew]

[livid yew]

thanks for the recc

[rain patio]

https://www.amazon.com/More-Mexican-Everyday-Seasonal-Celebratory-ebook/dp/B00NUB4F5W?ref_=ast_sto_dp
mexican

[teal jackal]

tbf it makes sense

when you apply to a job, it's the equivalent of swiping on people

it's because there's in theory supposed to be a lot of options for companies and also a lot of options for dating

getting an interview is the equivalent of getting a match

because for one company, it would be highly unlikely to get an interview

but out of hundreds of companies and roles, most people will get at least one positive response

but either way it feels like screaming into the void aimlessly if you're not attractive relative to the context

[ornate cliff]

hey guys any jobs?

no?

aight

pce

[tender sluice]

job how I get?

get job I how?

I how get job?

[livid yew]

what is job?

[tender sluice]

how get job i?

20 more permutations

get I job how?

ok im done mods dont ban me

[sonic coral]

Baby don’t hurt me

[fossil jewel]

oh but it did

[tardy geode]

does anyone know golang ? if yes then what does " := " this do ? like eg . a := 20

[crisp citrus]

why are you sending permutations?

[crisp citrus]

?

[warm sky]

it's a concise way to declare and set a variable

[tardy geode]

oh instead of int a = 20 , we can do a:=20 ?

[warm sky]

although in Go, the verbose way would be var a int = 4

[fossil jewel]

:= is taking me a bit to get used to

[ornate cliff]

Is practicing leetcode by topic a good idea?

[fossil jewel]

to get comfy with topic? sure

[ornate cliff]

@nocturne oriole can you pls repost your LC tracker... tinyurl is blocked on my network

[fossil jewel]

its pinned

in this channel

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bbpJkNqNorsZcNUOK5e2mYnSEGgpfR1CKqcVg9OinEo/edit

oh no tiny url

[ornate cliff]

perff merci ❤️

[fossil jewel]

de rien mon ami

[nocturne oriole]

I dont speak french but u too

[fossil jewel]

et toi

spanish is close

y tu

[nocturne oriole]

Et tu brute

[livid yew]

350

bro I have a life

I cannot dedicate that much time

[fossil jewel]

i dont think kirb said to do all 350

he just got an example?

or added them all together

B75, G75 and NC 150

its a nice list

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

i think NC150 is the goated

[livid yew]

yeah i did B75 back in 2020

now I am doing NC150 to get gud again

[pine topaz]

je t'aime @pulsar mural

[fossil jewel]

i have done neither

my LC prep is quite lackluster

i know what i need to do but i just dont do it

[livid yew]

Just do it bro

I spend 1-2 hours a day

An hour before work, and 1 hour after

[west egret]

I haven’t LCed since late October 💀

[fossil jewel]

me too

since bloomberg onsite lol

[green pendant]

@ god me when

[ornate cliff]

How the fk do you do grokking? Do you have to find the corresponding question yourself on leetcode or something?