2023_grads

[night marsh]

marie steals the spotlight in this meme

[pine topaz]

MEESTA BOG

[livid yew]

cause if it was a one-time thing, I could see accidental

[coarse charm]

https://twitter.com/CassavaSF/status/1616233818591232000

Cassava (@CassavaSF)

@forest_1314 We have learned that she did this to multiple people at Google. We were able to get her to pay but we can only imagine how many small businesses she hurt by doing this same fraud.

Twitter · Jan 20, 2023, 12:39 AM

[sonic coral]

WESTOIDS

[livid yew]

lmao those views

[night marsh]

gd lmao

[livid yew]

decent views

[sonic coral]

What if I’m a westoid with gigachad European parents tho @pine topaz

[coarse charm]

they redacted the company name in the first few tweets

[sonic coral]

What then

[coarse charm]

but at the end are just too tired of her shit lmao

[coarse quiver]

I meant she might have the kleptomany disorder

[livid yew]

who cares

bro

no such thing as privacy anymore

[coarse charm]

true

[night marsh]

cant have shit in detroit

[livid yew]

we might as well all post our CC billing address and SSN

[pine topaz]

I AM

[livid yew]

12-345-6789

[coarse quiver]

Big waz

[livid yew]

someone has that SSN

lmao

[pine topaz]

...

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural go to bed

[sonic coral]

Depends, Russians are both euro and Asia

But like Poland, Latvia, czech, Ukraine etc is all firmly Eastern Europe

[night marsh]

depends which side

[sonic coral]

You also have like Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan tho idk if they’re considered Slavs

[night marsh]

Eurasians generally, but West side is generally European whereas East side is North Asian

[teal jackal]

god how low can one go

[vestal pelican]

Central Asians

[grizzled bronze]

I need to reset my phone, it's laggy

Google Authenticator doesn't allow importing unless I have another device

[livid yew]

duh

[grizzled bronze]

I'm having to download BlueStacks to import it to my computer

[livid yew]

just get second phone

wait the export gives you a set of QR codes, just save those screenshots

and then use them on new install

[grizzled bronze]

It doesn't allow you to take a screenshot

[livid yew]

smart

use this to mirror phone to PC, take windows ss https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy

[bleak raven]

hi everyone did yall miss me

⛹️‍♂️

@pulsar mural hi

im scared for my offer being rescinded

😔

[grizzled bronze]

How you perform has no impact on whether or not you'll be laid off

[grizzled bronze]

Microsoft right? You should be fine

They cancelled new grad roles to give headcount for intern conversions

[bleak raven]

oooo

[west egret]

@bleak raven that’s a name I haven’t seen in a while

[bleak raven]

the recession brings me back 😞

[west egret]

Not actual bad news right?

[bleak raven]

nah , just worries

[west egret]

I got a call this week from NYC and it scared the shit out of me

[bleak raven]

datadog said if microsoft gets rescinded i should reach out and they’ll try something so hopefully i have backup but idk 🧍🏻‍♂️

[bleak raven]

o my what company

[west egret]

Bloomberg. So relatively safe but just seeing a call from NYC made me freak until I verified it was just a spam call.

[bleak raven]

oo

spooky

i do hope that if my offer is not rescinded i score big on RSUs hehe

[west egret]

What city you gonna be at?

[bleak raven]

honestly idk

role is remote

i float

2024 ik i’ll be in nyc

[west egret]

TC adjusts depending on where you’re based though right?

[bleak raven]

ja , recruiter said i can vibe for a bit before settling down

i have home in nj , told him that and he said no TC adjustments

nj and nyc have same band apparently

[fossil jewel]

if its a 212 area code its less likely a scam

[west egret]

Yeah pretty sure the offer for Princeton and Manhattan offices with BB are the same as well

[fossil jewel]

i think most corps have 212 but i could be wrong

[west egret]

It was 212 lol

[fossil jewel]

oh lmao

i thought that usually landline

i been getting too many spam calls too

[west egret]

Actually nvm 917

[fossil jewel]

one call was from allstate with regards to car insurance

[west egret]

I was looking farther back

[fossil jewel]

i dont even know how to drive

yeah 212 tends to be landline which would mean office

[west egret]

I can drive

Just not for NYC lol

[fossil jewel]

i wouldnt rec

parking is a pain in the city esp

[west egret]

I won't be bringing a car

too much of a hassle

Basically all I plan to bring is w/e will fit in my suitcases

[fossil jewel]

you can fit a car if you try hard enough

a hot wheel

ny is a walkable city anyways

[bleak raven]

interning in nyc was the most fun i’ve had in my life

[fossil jewel]

had a friend visit and we walked from chinatown to union sq np

[west egret]

Yeah I just need more winter clothes as someone from FL

[fossil jewel]

puffer time

[west egret]

Need to fit in with all the other tech bros

[green pendant]

I just got live rejected in an interview

F

The co founder of the company called my knowledge lacking

And rejected me

I've never felt this low

[grizzled bronze]

Bro, don't put your self-worth in a company

Fuck them

[dawn sequoia]

sounds like a startup?

[west egret]

That happened to me last season with Walmart

[green pendant]

yeah it was a startup

gave me a take home test that tooke me 6 hours

i hate life right now

[fossil jewel]

happened to me last season with nvidia

it was a phone call and i had a hard time hearing him too

[west egret]

what's dumb is we can literally learn w/e knowledge needed

[fossil jewel]

and i misunderstood a question and rambled for a LONG time

then i got a solution

[west egret]

it's not like just because we don't know it now that we will never have competency with it

[fossil jewel]

dude was like "how do we optimize it"

i ramble a bit and he sighs

and says "lets move on to the next question"

💀

[west egret]

WM dude literally started staring off screen when I was talking

[karmic harness]

[dawn sequoia]

i wouldnt worry about it too much. startups need ppl with more exp (im assuming youre new grad/intern with <2 yoe) to build their systems essentially from the ground up with limited funds and as fast as possible. im not saying youre not capable of that, but they dont see it like that and they are less willing to train new ppl. that's just from my observations talking with and applying to startups

[west egret]

You could hear the lack of interest he had in me

[fossil jewel]

i didnt even apply to the position, recruiter reached out and she set me up with this and i didnt know the role descriptions

lol this also happened

#general message

the most embarrasing 45 minutes of my life bruh

[karmic harness]

what can you do

just go to the next one

[west egret]

I mean I wouldn't have been able to write it from scratch either

[neon perch]

Bud don’t worry, companies think pretty much one dimensionally. That co founder is seriously such an asshole.

[karmic harness]

i think some people just have a massive superiority complex and nothing you can do about it

[fossil jewel]

ye regardless im glad i got rej

east coast > west coast

[west egret]

Highkey glad I got rejected from Walmart

[fossil jewel]

shit happens

i did my OA that day for jp and im surprised that i moved to next round

💀

[west egret]

yeah like me failing Zon final last year with a literal copy and paste of a b75 question

Then this year where it actually would have been bad for me to have Zon return offer given what's been happening

[green pendant]

hmm fair enough

[fossil jewel]

i mean no one would've known

that shit would go south

[west egret]

^

[green pendant]

any words of motivation will be nice thanks

[fossil jewel]

my friend reneged zon for meta

[west egret]

They were safe no where

[fossil jewel]

their nyc benefits were crazy

they got housing in murray hill, metrocard, i think a citi bike subscription too

[split plaza]

Dodged a bullet imo, that place sounds toxic af

[fossil jewel]

yeah

[fossil jewel]

its not on you my homie

knowledge can be obtained

the interviewer is being an ass

[peak ferry]

Chat fr be like

why don’t companies provide feedback?

instant feedback

name and shame

[west egret]

Tough times make for tough people. You'll come out of this better.

[fossil jewel]

rejecting someone new on the basis of knowledge is dumb bc our degree is basically a vessel for us to learn new stuff

[foggy perch]

meh makes sense if they want someone with more knowledge

less time wasted

[west egret]

^ fr WM interviewer gave me crap for not knowing something I learned literally 1 month later lmao

[green pendant]

worst part is he tried to sugarcoat it by saying "think of this as a learning experience"

after berating me and my skills and knowledge for 30 minutes lol

he straight up went "I blame your school for not teaching you the basics"

[karmic harness]

my WM interviewer was insanely nice

best interview experience so far.

[foggy perch]

what's WM?

[fervent drift]

technical?

[fossil jewel]

gualmart

[foggy perch]

oh walmart

[fossil jewel]

basics how

[foggy perch]

oh wait live rejection

damn i didn't know they even did those

[fossil jewel]

like is he asking you whats an array and you dont know (DOUBT)

[green pendant]

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/two-dots

[west egret]

Yeah my first interviewer was nice but the one for my final was pretty unprofessional

[foggy perch]

huh founders dont even seem that cracked tbh

[karmic harness]

Started my career at Goldman in NYC

[green pendant]

they didn't even let me speak kept interrupting me and shit

just an overall bad experience

[karmic harness]

yep

[green pendant]

I've had bad interviews that were a good experience

but this wasn't it

[fossil jewel]

[karmic harness]

worked at goldman thinks they are hot sht

[fossil jewel]

yeah you avoided

[foggy perch]

honestly like idk I can't imagine goldman and a short stint at google being enough

unless the google guy is secretly a genius

[green pendant]

yeah like everyday life here would be shit for sure

[fossil jewel]

an interview is an hour, can you imagine what they'd do in a day

[west egret]

depends on if they were a finance bro

[foggy perch]

my worst interview experience of all time was probs genentech roche

[green pendant]

bro my interview was at 8:30 pm and they joined at 8:52

[green pendant]

then basically scolded me for 30 minutes

I was about to cry ngl

[foggy perch]

dang

[karmic harness]

[green pendant]

it's fine we move

[foggy perch]

oh lmao nah my worst interview experience accent-wise was google

it's crazy google interviews all happen on phone

[fossil jewel]

phone interviews not it

[foggy perch]

so it sounds like they're talking through a tunnel

[green pendant]

but tbh I have had people with bad accents who were actually nice

[fossil jewel]

i have a hard time hearing people

[green pendant]

who were trying their best

[foggy perch]

like they're nice, but it's so stressful doing a technical problem, but unsure if you hear something right

and have to keep asking

[fossil jewel]

think the worst accent was for a cbs interview

[foggy perch]

I passed google intern technicals, but one was almost impossible b/c my interviewer had strong accent + lisp combined w/ stutter + bad phone mic

[fossil jewel]

couldnt understand the guy 100% of the time

got ghosted anyways

[foggy perch]

so I had to use all the reading comprehension skills I learned from the SAT just to understand my interviewer

[green pendant]

so the subpart of the question asked me to do x. I did it as a(x). But b(x) is more optimal and safe considering C++ doesn't have garbage collection. My point was that ofc b(x) is better but I misunderstood the question and did a(x) which btw isn't even that bad just needs extra lines of code in the destructor. He never let me finish my thought and berated me and the education system

[foggy perch]

I genuinely think a requirement for interviewers is for them to see if programs like Siri can understand what they're saying lmao

if siri is < 90% accurate on their words, they should not be an interviewer

[fossil jewel]

and the crazy thing is it was a recruiter reach out after a career fair

and i got ghosted still

[foggy perch]

oh rip was it a requirement for you to do it in c++

[green pendant]

Interviewer: "It's a shame that you don't know why this is wrong"
Me: "But I do know why this is.."
Interviewer: "shh it's okay you did not have the best education I blame your schools"

[fossil jewel]

im debating removing c++ bc i prob wont be able to answer shit on the spot about it

[foggy perch]

rip do you go to a lesser known school or something?

or was it just him dogging on your education

[green pendant]

yes. cheap state govt school

[foggy perch]

ah

[green pendant]

but not THAT bad tbh

[foggy perch]

i see so it was a targeted attack

[fossil jewel]

i mean same my school is trash (state school)

but i never heard such a comment

[green pendant]

it doesn't justify what he did tbh

[foggy perch]

no I think it makes it worse lmao

since without that he was just saying it as a "oh colleges in general are not doing enough"

[fossil jewel]

yeah he sounds elitist

[foggy perch]

with this context it means he was more specifically insulting you for your school

[green pendant]

MOTHERFUCKER SENT ME A READING LIST

[foggy perch]

omg

[karmic harness]

BRO

[foggy perch]

what books did he recommend

[green pendant]

Fuck's sake man

[foggy perch]

i'm curious now

[green pendant]

it's 10pm

let me be

[foggy perch]

imagine if the man sent you a Cracking the Coding Interview

[green pendant]

I swear I did absolutely nothing to offend him like this

[karmic harness]

talk about a DODGE

[fervent drift]

whats this for 💀

[karmic harness]

imagine working there

[foggy perch]

man saw your school and decided it was war

[fossil jewel]

⏯️

[green pendant]

not doing good in an interview

if anyone wanted the list

[fossil jewel]

PEARL

[foggy perch]

lmaoooo those dont even look like unique books

[fossil jewel]

??

[fervent drift]

bruh 💀 this is overkill

[foggy perch]

he straight up sent you a basic programming and algorithm book?!?!

wtff

[fervent drift]

just tell me im not good and move on

[green pendant]

yeah he rubbed it in for too long

[fervent drift]

what company if u dont mind

[green pendant]

this

[fossil jewel]

oh not the programming language

perl

[green pendant]

this is actually wrong tbh their team size is bigger now

like y combinator says its 4 engineers but its more now

[fervent drift]

lemme start at my company and ill refer u

[green pendant]

thank you

[fervent drift]

i start in june so just remind me

[fossil jewel]

you need sponsorship?

[green pendant]

wait fr???

[fervent drift]

yea

[green pendant]

unfortunately yes but that was made clear in our first conversation tbh

like they didn't reject me for that

[fervent drift]

u got a plug for that?

[green pendant]

and if that was the rejection reason

[fossil jewel]

nah sadly i asked bc i could refer to jp but they dont sponsor

[green pendant]

it's 311$ to file an H1b. Lawyers charge upwards of 60 an hour

and the form takes ~2 hours to fill

[fervent drift]

[green pendant]

so around 500 bucks per applicant to file

[fervent drift]

wtf..

wait ur international?

[green pendant]

oh yeah np I understand

[green pendant]

si

[fervent drift]

oh fuck

vg doesnt sponsor either

[green pendant]

what's vg

[fervent drift]

vanguard

[green pendant]

pls dont say veez guts

okay phew

[fervent drift]

💀 ima use this

how many places have u applied to

[peak ferry]

I forgot which company did, but I'm p sure I got this in an email before lmao

[fossil jewel]

💀

i never got actual feedback in rej

but damn this makes me not wanna get any

was the role even a c++ role @green pendant

[peak ferry]

oh they shat on you for not using smart pointers or smth? that seems excessive, but at the same time my sr has basically told me he rejected people for this

[fervent drift]

conflict of interest

damn

[fossil jewel]

[neon perch]

His startup doesn’t have a bright future with that kind of un-accepting and judgy attitude

[grizzled bronze]

I just got it working, but it blanks out when I open the Authenticator app

[green pendant]

tbh I don't mind the rejection. I mind the beration and the tone with which he did it

rejections are fine

but at least do it decently

[fossil jewel]

he just rubbing it in

like damn chill bruh

[green pendant]

yeah I can't imagine how working 24/7 must be like with him lmao

[fossil jewel]

feedback is nice in an email

could've just left it at the un-knowledgable part

[green pendant]

no. I had done the assessment in C++ and the dude had a tonne of C++ experience from idk where

[west egret]

They didn't have to do you like that on a Friday night......

[green pendant]

c'est la vie

we're soldiers we must march on

[neon perch]

Not easy being an international in this market fr

[green pendant]

I just think of long term future and I know that no matter what happens right now I'll be alright

thats what keeps me going tbh

[green pendant]

closing in on 500 now

[neon perch]

1 offer will truly make me the happiest person on this planet ngl

[fossil jewel]

thats all it takes

1 yes in a sea of nos

[robust drum]

I phone interviewed at bloomberg a while ago and I still havent received an callback yet, is that good or bad?

Im asking because I heard that when you get rejections from bloomberg its usually quick, but my offers or next stage convos with other companies usually happen fairly fast

[river horizon]

this guy is being an a$$

[green pendant]

if you hired for remote roles or sumn let me know pls I'd love to be considered thanks

[fossil jewel]

which stage?

also bloomberg is a deffo slow rn

they're trying to keep up with volume of apps

[robust drum]

Initial phone technical, I was able to answer the question optimally and got to the second question which I wasnt able to finish but I was able to explain correctly the optimal way of solving it

I was able to solve the first question fairly quick but the interviewer wanted me to solve it in a different way that had no effect on the time space complexity

[river horizon]

so he just has this god complex

nice

[robust drum]

thank you for the follow up, how do you know this?

[gray dagger]

Holy shit same 💀 I’m glad I got rejected looking at their layoffs

[fossil jewel]

so many people in this server did the bloomberg loop

[foggy perch]

same

fortunately got rejected for team matching for google fall 2022 intern lmao

accepted bloomberg ft instead

[livid yew]

our internship app opened at comcast @grizzled bronze

[robust drum]

bloomberg is cheating on me?

[teal jackal]

my worst interview experience of all time was at JPMC

white american guy who's been at JPMC for 20 years

[robust drum]

dude same, it was so bad

they are so rude

[teal jackal]

guy was extremely critical and prejudiced against me

like "damn youngster"

[robust drum]

SAME!

[teal jackal]

Was his name tyler?

[robust drum]

no it was a different guy, old black dude but I get the feeling that a lot of their employees are like that

[gray dagger]

I’m still curious what school do you go to lmao

[robust drum]

I interviewed with them twice and it was never a good experience

they are very arrogant and unprofessional with how they talk to candidates

[teal jackal]

JPMC has a lot of old people who think they're hot shit and that all the youngsters in tech are arrogant subhumans
(my dad would love it there)

[outer radish]

do ya'll ever just do a leetcode question and check the solution

[foggy perch]

american school that does coop

[outer radish]

then realize how fucked u are

[teal jackal]

yeah pretty much, my opinion on JPMC turned negative for that

my engineering interviewers all sounded like they had an ego about "im older thus im wiser"

[grizzled bronze]

Nice

[gray dagger]

Sounds like NEU

[fervent drift]

for sure ill send u my thing s

[robust drum]

They get inflated titles and sadly it seems to go to their heads, im like bro you dont pay enough to treat me this way

[fossil jewel]

damn my interviewer was such a sweet lady

[teal jackal]

pretty much

[fossil jewel]

she said that she likes how im learning new things constantly

[teal jackal]

I guess pokefool and I just got unlucky, but I'd say that it's reflective of the attitudes of some people there

[fossil jewel]

and my managers were extremely nice

[fossil jewel]

oh for sure

[west egret]

I never even got past resume screen with JPMC

[gray dagger]

Jpmc does sponsor for associates but too bad I don’t qualify for that

[robust drum]

I think its more likely oreos got lucky

[fossil jewel]

i definitely would've gotten turned off since uh

[teal jackal]

Like for a fact there's a non zero chance you'll have a repeat of that shit

[foggy perch]

was jpmc the company with those weird hackathon-esque days where if you passed those you get an interview

[fossil jewel]

3rd time's the charm

[foggy perch]

or is that someone else

[fossil jewel]

yeah

[gray dagger]

Oh and Java spring boot

[fossil jewel]

code for good

[teal jackal]

like youll meet at least one douche like that

[foggy perch]

nice

I remember instantly ghosting jpmc because I didn't want to do code for good lmao

[teal jackal]

code for good is interesting, i had a friend do it for the free chicago trip

[teal jackal]

dude it sounds kinda fun, i regret not applying earlier

[fossil jewel]

yeah someone i interned with got the offer thru that

[foggy perch]

i've made so many accidental good fumbles this season

[fossil jewel]

he and his teammates

[robust drum]

Hackathons arent as scary as people make it out to be

[fossil jewel]

perhaps as a fulltimer i'd be on the other side

everyone getting an offer

[robust drum]

Yea

[gray dagger]

Does anyone know if epic sponsors

[foggy perch]

by failing getting Amazon offer b/c waitlist, failing Google intern offer b/c team match, failing c1 intern offer b/c bad interview, ghosting Circle b/c crypto, and failing Pinterest FT Final I was able to accidentally avoid multiple potential layoff/rescind/start delays

lmao

[gray dagger]

Did you get an offer yet?

[foggy perch]

ye

I've had bloomberg offer since like October

[gray dagger]

[fossil jewel]

GG

W

[foggy perch]

I mainly just did interviews after that point to see if I could get something better

only interview I actually regret failing this season is probs Roblox

[fossil jewel]

robucks for me

[foggy perch]

in hindsight it's good I failed the other ones

so I didn't get fucked by rescinds

[fossil jewel]

i never even played roblox

[gray dagger]

I watched my friend do the Roblox OA

[foggy perch]

absolutely not

[gray dagger]

It was stupid

[teal jackal]

I'm pretty optimistic bout the company I'm heading to

[foggy perch]

look at the state of amazon layoffs

lmao

[robust drum]

Which one?

Did anyone do TikTok OA?

[teal jackal]

I talked to some people there from blind and they say it's not so bad

[foggy perch]

only way I'd choose amazon over bb is if they negotiated higher and gave me nyc location

[teal jackal]

hive ai

[foggy perch]

otherwise there's 0% chance I'd choose amazon for same tc as bb

[west egret]

Now’s a time when banks might be more desirable than some big tech companies lol

[foggy perch]

I think bloomberg has a better work environment and gives me a better way to break into HFT if I ever want to

also more stable job

[fossil jewel]

v nice

good wlb

[west egret]

No free food though

Meals anyways

[fossil jewel]

big snack pantry i heard

[gray dagger]

Maybe we’ll get some great startups now that a lot of talent has no jobs to wake up to next week

[foggy perch]

amazon just has bananas anyways

meh I feel like we need at least one more year of recession for startups to get good funding again

[peak ferry]

cheap fucks. s2g free meals in office is a good deal for everyone cuz otherwise I'm spending more time going out to get food smh

[foggy perch]

I think bloomberg's official reason for discontinuing free lunch was "supporting local businesses"

[gray dagger]

Is yc accepting applications?

[fossil jewel]

local in that area isnt super cheap

[west egret]

NGL I don’t even care if it was bad food lol

Just enough to get me through the day

[peak ferry]

same

[foggy perch]

yes

[fossil jewel]

there's this coffee place a few blocks down where everything is 2.5 - 3.0

[west egret]

If only they gave a lunch stipend lmao

[peak ferry]

well I'd want it to be like decent, but nothing fancy necessary

[foggy perch]

tbh I'm down to just go on a cut when I start working at bb

I'm ready to eat chicken and veggies every day for lunch

[peak ferry]

I accidentally skip lunch sometimes oops

[west egret]

Same

[fossil jewel]

few blocks is a bit of an understatement it's a bit of a walk

[teal jackal]

100%

[fossil jewel]

hale and hearty used to be around there but it closed

[west egret]

Although I imagine I’ll lose weight in NYC just walking everywhere

[teal jackal]

I like the idea of lunch in the office not just because it's free, but also because it doesn't feel like a waste of time

like having to go out and get your own feels like a time sink

[fossil jewel]

can be ye

[teal jackal]

but having it right there in the office is cool because it doesn't distract you from work nearly as much

[fossil jewel]

if you're salaried its w.e

[foggy perch]

meh if it's with coworkers i'm down to just chill

[peak ferry]

time is mostly a benefit for the company-- I aint staying late cuz my lunches are like 20min longer to grab smth

[foggy perch]

I'll see how meeting people in-office goes

[west egret]

I’d prob eat at the same places unless I was going with a group

[foggy perch]

yeah there's no chance I'm leaving work past 5 PM unless I get a super cracked team

[teal jackal]

I don't mind that, especially if the WLB isn't perfect

pretty glad my company has catered lunches

[west egret]

walking anything more than 10 mins seems like a pain to just get lunch

[peak ferry]

o yea idk where yall are

[fossil jewel]

the food places near y'all are actual dinning

sit down and eat type

[peak ferry]

I'm in DT Chicago and low key there are a decent number of good food options so I'm not too salty

[fossil jewel]

probably got take out ofc

[peak ferry]

but still like +400/mo in lunch spend kekw

[fossil jewel]

mcdonalds is close

[pulsar mural]

yo

[west egret]

Making six figures and eating McDonald’s

[foggy perch]

smh the prices I see in chicago vs nyc make me want to job hop there at some point

[fossil jewel]

[peak ferry]

for food? ngl I thought lunch was still pretty pricey here

prob pay like ~15 on avg

[west egret]

That is true but I just don’t like the habit of eating fast food so often

[foggy perch]

nah for food + housing

chicago rent looks so much nicer compared to nyc

[peak ferry]

housing def is better

[foggy perch]

nyc rent is depressing

[robust drum]

what range do you consider depressing?

[peak ferry]

3k+ for studio lmao

[foggy perch]

rn i'm paying 3k per month

[robust drum]

thats only in manhattan

[foggy perch]

yep exactly what sentient said lmao

[rain patio]

yo plz give me advice

[robust drum]

manhattan?

[peak ferry]

yea but walk to work is based

[foggy perch]

meh even in areas near manhattan, for a good apartment it's expensive

nah LIC

[robust drum]

Not really, if youre a local you know the good neighborhoods

[foggy perch]

when I say near manhattan I mean < 15 minute commute

[robust drum]

you shoulve done upper manhattan, 2 bedrooms for $2500

[fossil jewel]

its not filling no worries

[peak ferry]

I have a 15-20 minute walk to work everyday, and I would probably pay up to 3k to keep it that way

[fossil jewel]

there's places around for food

[foggy perch]

meh for me central air, dishwasher, and in-building laundry were important things I wanted that much of upper manhattan didn't have

[robust drum]

Thats good commute but I dunno if its worth that much money, the train system is really vast here, can get from A to B anywhere in the city in like 1 hour or less

[foggy perch]

I don't want to waste 1-2 hours of my day commuting tho

[fossil jewel]

https://gourmetbagelny.com/

[foggy perch]

that's insane to me

[fossil jewel]

this place isnt too far from there

[robust drum]

I live in a building that has all of that plus a balcony in upper manhattan

[peak ferry]

oh yea wtf is up with that, so many places don't do in unit wd, which I consider mandatory

[peak ferry]

2500 for a 2bd and all that? goddamn

[foggy perch]

I ended up just doing in-building laundry b/c idc that much

[robust drum]

also washer/dryer, and its a 1 bedroom

[foggy perch]

was there a broker's fee

[robust drum]

nah I wouldnt do a brokers fee

[teal jackal]

Unironically fast food is why I want a car so much
In the city, they often don't have a lot of fast food joints like burger king, kfc, wendys, etc
Even mcdonalds is far away
I like going to the drive thru at night, which I can't really do with my parents at home

[fossil jewel]

washer dryer inside appts is rare here

[teal jackal]

in unit washer dryer is based

imagine sharing the washer and dryer topkek

[peak ferry]

I do my laundry and random ass hours, often at like midnight. I got a big boy job I aint lugging my dirty undies around hallways anymore

[foggy perch]

🤷 maybe for me I just prioritized quickly finding an apartment I could guarantee is super close to work

[teal jackal]

what is this? college?

[robust drum]

Certain neighborhoods like astoria in queens is good if you work in manhattan too, its like a 15 minute train ride

[foggy perch]

I assume by upper manhattan you mean lenox hill / yorkville?

eh most of astoria is closer to 25 minute commute in total

[foggy perch]

like for me my commute is 10 minutes total including walking and train

which I am a big fan of so minimal time is wasted

[fossil jewel]

in my old apartment it was in building and someone stole the money from the machine that refills the card

Astoria is lit

[robust drum]

I see I see, its worth checking out other places once your lease is up if you are interested in saving money

[foggy perch]

fair

for me saving time == saving money

[fossil jewel]

there's a lot of nice food by there

[foggy perch]

maybe

[robust drum]

it absolutely isnt, astoria is a very lit neighborhood

[foggy perch]

my goal at some point is to hopefully work in fidi so I can commute from brooklyn which looks cheaper

[robust drum]

A lot of bars/clubs/young people

[west egret]

I mean it’s just where you live. You can take the train to other areas. lol

[rain patio]

should you be applying to internships if you suck at LC still (can only do easies)

[robust drum]

like bushwick or williamsburg in brooklyn

[foggy perch]

probs bushwick

I've heard williamsburg is getting pricey

bc of techbros

[fossil jewel]

it is

lots of hipster places

artisan type bs

[rain patio]

Williamsburg is gentrified as fk man

[teal jackal]

anyone going to seattle? or just me

[robust drum]

bushwick is hella fun to visit

[robust drum]

I been there, weather is good in the summer

[rain patio]

I pass by there every morning, but it’s actually a fantastic place to live

[foggy perch]

clearly this is a perfect map of nyc https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888168516115660820/1010226792612757535/unknown.png?width=672&height=670

[rain patio]

Too expensive though

[robust drum]

lol for jersey city

[rain patio]

Indian for jersey city bruh

[foggy perch]

jersey people just built different

[rain patio]

Let’s be real

[robust drum]

poor staten island, not even on the map

[peak ferry]

idk nyc, how much of a commute is it from like Brooklyn to lower Manhattan? I want to live in NYC at some point tbh

[foggy perch]

i would honestly hate life if I had to live in nj and commute 30+ minutes each way a day

[rain patio]

“International student”

[foggy perch]

looks like 20ish minutes for the closer parts of brooklyn

quickly increases as you get further

[robust drum]

depends, it can be anywhere from 10 minutes to 45 minutes

[peak ferry]

huh

[foggy perch]

I just wish my office wasn't in midtown

makes it a nightmare for me if I wanted to live in brooklyn

[jaunty basalt]

Brooklyn is huge

[rain patio]

Bklyn is like Texas it goes deep

[jaunty basalt]

I think that’s what they mean

[foggy perch]

EV apartments look like closets tho

[rain patio]

People only care about the top end of bklyn though

[peak ferry]

is midtown worse to get to than lower manhattan?

[foggy perch]

yes because it's farther north

[robust drum]

Brooklyn to midtown isnt that crazy as long as you do the trains, but brooklyn to the bronx is a trek

[foggy perch]

if you want to do brooklyn -> midtown you have to transfer trains at least once

[rain patio]

But who wants to go to the Bronx

[foggy perch]

which sounds like too much of a pain to me

[jaunty basalt]

What no

It’s just long

[robust drum]

There are trains that go straight there

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah exactly

[robust drum]

wait, actually I think most trains do

[foggy perch]

this is what I see when I look up williamsburg -> spot in midtown

[robust drum]

I havent looked at the map in a while but generally the ones from brooklyn go straight through manhattan and end in either queens or very upper manhattan

[rain patio]

bronx is somewhere you're born

very little incentive to go there

[foggy perch]

idk how you're getting from brooklyn -> midtown in one train

unless there's a section of brooklyn that's very different

[bleak raven]

pro tip live on BDFM

[jaunty basalt]

So you picked one point in Brooklyn

[rain patio]

f train whack

[jaunty basalt]

And say that it’s not possible

Bro

[bleak raven]

L take

[foggy perch]

show me a point in brooklyn that can get to midtown east in one train

i'm testing out spots rn

and can't find one

[peak ferry]

mfw 1bds in bushwick are still like 2.5-3k rough

[rain patio]

worst train in mta

j on top

[jaunty basalt]

N,Q,2,5

[bleak raven]

nau

[robust drum]

I might be wrong, lemme check

[foggy perch]

I've found one spot in brooklyn that can get in one train so far

[bleak raven]

i lived above the east broadway stop

was amazing

[robust drum]

The letter trains are the worst

[foggy perch]

brooklyn hills seems to be able to get to midtown east in one train

williamsburg and bushwick do not

[rain patio]

the 2 and 3 train can take you from brooklyn to deep into manhattan

[jaunty basalt]

Exactly

Like bro

I literally went from midtown to Coney Island

[rain patio]

J train goes pretty reasonably far also (nvm it does not0

[bleak raven]

@foggy perch how much rent for williamsburg

[robust drum]

Q train?

[jaunty basalt]

Or N

But same idea

[foggy perch]

in one train?

[jaunty basalt]

Yes

Bro

[fossil jewel]

F train

N, Q, R

[peak ferry]

damn yall got the whole alphabet

[jaunty basalt]

Open up a fucking subway map

[robust drum]

Remember google maps not showing you the train routes, its just showing you the fastest way to that location you indicated

[robust drum]

dont gotta be so mean tho

[foggy perch]

🤷 I'm just using google maps since that's what I'm familiar with like most people

[bleak raven]

use transit overlay

[robust drum]

I feel you, the train map is alot

[rain patio]

lmfao it is a lot

[foggy perch]

like ngl this train map looks nonsensical lmao

[bleak raven]

💀 fair

[rain patio]

thank you

[robust drum]

I was born in brooklyn

[fossil jewel]

u want lex and 59

[rain patio]

nyc ppl do gatekeep so fking hard

[fossil jewel]

or close to

[foggy perch]

ye I'm mainly thinking of paths of brooklyn -> midtown east ig

[bleak raven]

where i lived hehe

east broadway is best

[fossil jewel]

raised in bk lesgooo

[bleak raven]

trader joe’s and target 8 min walk

[rain patio]

thats actually a fire spot

[foggy perch]

judging by maps it seems like southwestern brooklyn has most of the direct paths to midtown east

[jaunty basalt]

The bus map is way worse I get headache from it

[rain patio]

essex mcdonalds got all the heat too if you're looking for drama

[jaunty basalt]

Bro

[robust drum]

But I get what you mean, cause I think a lot of people come from places where trains just arent a thing so we get ALOT of weird questions, like ALOT, not the ones waterloo are asking, but once this girl asked me If i felt like i was missing the nyc experience because I "lived in Brooklyn and not NYC"

[foggy perch]

I haven't really heard most of the neighborhoods of brooklyn in the southwestern parts tho ngl

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah it’s huge

There’s no way

Even for native

[foggy perch]

main brooklyn neighborhoods I've heard people say they live in are williamsburg, bushwick, greenpoint, ridgewood

[bleak raven]

has this server all turned into nyc converts

[fossil jewel]

yeah i dont know much about queens except like astoria, flushing and elmhurst

[rain patio]

most nyc natives stay within their little circle though so theres a lot of larping when it comes to talking about different neighborhoods

[bleak raven]

has my job of west coast hater been complete

[fossil jewel]

eh nyc people are like that

[foggy perch]

I mean in general I think a lot of people think living outside of EV will ruin the nyc experience for new grad

[peak ferry]

illinois is my city

[fossil jewel]

you gonna get flipped off for no reason lmaooo

[foggy perch]

at least i've heard that sentiment echoed a lot of East Village or Bust

[bleak raven]

east village is overrated

[fossil jewel]

best way to describe nyc is like a gta online lobby

east village is okay

there's some nice stuff around

but its expensive

[rain patio]

unbelievably pricy

[foggy perch]

is it idk, never been there

[fossil jewel]

the bronx is the best ofc

[rain patio]

good food around there

[robust drum]

Yea but a big part of the experience happens in the other boroughs, manhattan has its own vibe, so does brooklyn, and queens, and the bronx, staten is boring tho

[foggy perch]

I just chose LIC purely for convenience, and might move out in a year if I find a better place

[bleak raven]

good food , bad transit options

i guess nqrw is a 7 min walk away

[robust drum]

I feel like staten shouldnt be a borough fr

[bleak raven]

or something

[fossil jewel]

should be in jersey

6 train is by east village

[jaunty basalt]

Bro ur gonna trigger 10 people

[robust drum]

or texas

[jaunty basalt]

It’s ok

[foggy perch]

well actually I also chose not to live in manhattan since I assumed it'd be too loud

[fossil jewel]

even staten island doesnt like itself

[foggy perch]

is staten island considered a borough of nyc?

[robust drum]

stop gassing them up, staten island does not have a population in the double digits

[foggy perch]

it's so far away tho

[rain patio]

why the bronx

[jaunty basalt]

I’m not?

Gotta standup for the 10 people

[peak ferry]

9.5

[fossil jewel]

jersey

thats why

jersey and staten slander

[robust drum]

ironically its prolly like that because of tourist traffic

[rain patio]

i grew up hearing jersey shore sucks so ive never been

[jaunty basalt]

You heard right

[fossil jewel]

this is the nyc you need to know about

[teal jackal]

every single second of this video was an acid trip

[peak ferry]

that is excellent

[rain patio]

sidetalk nyc is literally amazing

[fossil jewel]

its a party every video

[peak ferry]

I want a gallon of henny

[jaunty basalt]

Welcome to the party

[robust drum]

I feel like its hit or miss

[rain patio]

went to hs with popsmoke lol

just want nyc job and im happy bro i dont wanna leave

[robust drum]

how was he back then?

[bleak raven]

remote nyc is the wave

[rain patio]

no idea was a big school

[fossil jewel]

nyc taxes are disrespectful

[foggy perch]

wait you were the person with the geico pfp right

you ended up accepting roblox right

nice

when're you starting work at roblox

and idea what you're planning on working there?

nice

so you aiming for c++/

nice

same

except i'm not at roblox

[fossil jewel]

c--;

[foggy perch]

what're you planning on reviewing

I'm planning on doing OS -> Networks -> Sys Design -> C++ trivia -> LC

are you planning on applying for 2024 or 2025 hiring season

[fossil jewel]

[jaunty basalt]

When you start here, look at the c++ guild material

[foggy perch]

haven't started yet, but I'm aiming to do C++

[jaunty basalt]

There’s plenty of trivia

[foggy perch]

there's a c++ guild?

I thought guilds were for diversity

[jaunty basalt]

Yes of course

[foggy perch]

or am I mixing them up for osmething else

[jaunty basalt]

Bro whoever said that is wrong

Guilds are technical

[foggy perch]

I remember them introducing those groups for like black people in cs, women in cs, asians in cs, etc.

maybe that's something else?

or are those guilds tool

[jaunty basalt]

That’s something else

[foggy perch]

oh ok

[fossil jewel]

affinity groups i think

[foggy perch]

i don't think bb ever introduced guilds during d-day then

or in general to me

i'll def look into c++ guild tho now that you mentioned it, thanks

[jaunty basalt]

They haven’t for me either but I watch out for emails

Yeah it’s good stuff

[foggy perch]

i'm starting work in < 2 weeks which'll be interesting

[foggy perch]

do you have to email people to find out about these groups

or are all the groups listed somewhere in bb

[jaunty basalt]

Hmmm hopefully you have a nice pre training team

[foggy perch]

same praying hard for FA

[jaunty basalt]

There’s an email about what’s going on in the week

[foggy perch]

oh yeah I got that

[jaunty basalt]

I just hop on to those

[foggy perch]

it looks like just OH

oh

[jaunty basalt]

Nah it’s a lecture

[foggy perch]

idk how relevant it is for me

[jaunty basalt]

With labs

[foggy perch]

since it says it's OH about relocation

huh

maybe we got diff emails?

[jaunty basalt]

Oh idk what ur talking about

[foggy perch]

or are we talking about the same thing

oh

rip

maybe they dont give me emails like yours until I officially start

[jaunty basalt]

I’m saying when you start you get emails on what’s happening

Everyone gets those

[foggy perch]

ah fair

i'll assume guilds = clubs

[jaunty basalt]

Sure

[foggy perch]

there any cool hobby guilds you recommend

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah FA is pretty diverse

Especially if u only want c++

[foggy perch]

ye

I'm also kinda interested in the finance stuff

[jaunty basalt]

Like u can end up not getting c++

Or not even finance

[foggy perch]

fair

[jaunty basalt]

But not neither

[foggy perch]

I specifically put in my pre-training app I really want c++ and finance

so hopefully works out

I think I put markets as my second choice since it was the most similar

[jaunty basalt]

TA is guaranteed finance but not always c++

[foggy perch]

I kinda regret it tho

ye

I've heard TA has some teams focused more on like javascript/typescript stuff

which really doesn't appeal to me

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah those exist

But very few

[foggy perch]

had to fill out my pre-training before I visited d-day which was annoying

huh

[jaunty basalt]

Because most teams are full stack

[foggy perch]

the TA people at my D-Day were all teams that did a lot of frontend rip

[jaunty basalt]

So you have c++ and that

[foggy perch]

or for their backend they used python mainly

[jaunty basalt]

Oh nah idk what you saw

[foggy perch]

unlucky

[rain patio]

are yall learning ocaml for js lol

[foggy perch]

Honestly I wish I heard about EPICs before I had filled out pre-training

because my view of EPICs changed so much after d-day

[jaunty basalt]

Oh nah mine never changed

[foggy perch]

but I didn't put it on my pre-training preference

[jaunty basalt]

Epics is still epics to me

[foggy perch]

like I assumed EPICs was like

devops

[jaunty basalt]

No it’s infra

[foggy perch]

ye

I also didn't realize epics had more c++ opportunities than I thought

[jaunty basalt]

But any part of infra

[foggy perch]

I wish I put epics instead of the app team

[jaunty basalt]

Like you could be making a dashboard

App team?

Like wild?

[foggy perch]

let me go look at the team list again I forget the details

[green pendant]

why does this company want me to mail in my resume wtf

[jaunty basalt]

Environmentally unfriendly

[foggy perch]

markets community and ai

I put that as my third choice, but I kinda regret it

[jaunty basalt]

Ohhhh

[foggy perch]

I mainly chose it at the time bc it seemed like the team closest to finance after FA and TA

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah that’s the org with the least teams that showed up to my career fair so I don’t know it too well

[foggy perch]

but didnt know much about it beyond that

[jaunty basalt]

I see

[foggy perch]

some of the team desc. kinda misleading for pre-training survey w/o d-day knowledge

[jaunty basalt]

Like if a lot of teams from a department show up I’d get a good sense

[green pendant]

I wonder if I can sign up for spam mail at that address lol

[foggy perch]

like EPICs desc. in the booklets make it sound like it's a team that just writes tests

[jaunty basalt]

It could be

I realize the top three teams I ranked map to the departments you listed for pre training

[foggy perch]

nice lmao

also it's so goofy that bloomberg only tells you about your first day of work the friday before you start

[jaunty basalt]

They happened to be 3 out of the 4 most popular teams

[foggy perch]

unsurprising

I already imagine FA is gonna be so popular during training selection

so hopefully I get a good FA team for pre-training I can just return to

[jaunty basalt]

That and TA

[foggy perch]

yep

FA seems to be closer to the financial aspect of things than TA by a bit

[jaunty basalt]

Nah

FA is very diverse

[foggy perch]

really huh

hard to have an accurate photo since I'm just guessing based off like

[jaunty basalt]

You have stuff like ESG which is environmental governance which is in FA

[foggy perch]

the 5 people who showed up from each dept for d-day

[livid yew]

d-day

wtf does that mean

@jaunty basalt

[jaunty basalt]

Discovery day

[livid yew]

does not help me bro

[jaunty basalt]

They fly you out

When you get offer

Visit the office

[livid yew]

so you just get hired as Software Engineer
and then you pick team?

oh

cool

I did something similar

except they did not pay for my flight lol

well I got reimbursed after

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah you’ll figure out more when you have the career fair

I had an interview in the middle of my dday so I missed that session

Mine was over zoom

[foggy perch]

lmaoooo you really ditched d-day to do an interview?

true sigma move

[livid yew]

lmao you kept interviewing

[jaunty basalt]

I mean it was Airtable

I failed it

[livid yew]

they got bought out i think

[foggy perch]

bro was about to renege bb while sleeping in bb paid for hotel

[jaunty basalt]

Nah I wasn’t gonna renege

I had apple Atlassian Microsoft etc already

[livid yew]

fuck dude

[foggy perch]

ah

[livid yew]

massive cock

[jaunty basalt]

I was set I just wanted another offer

[foggy perch]

what led you to choose bb > msft again

more pay?

I assumed bb and msft had very similar pay

[jaunty basalt]

I didn’t want to move, you get to choose ur team (somewhat)

[foggy perch]

ah

so not nyc msft

[jaunty basalt]

Nah Redmond

[foggy perch]

ew

[livid yew]

BIG FLEX lol

[foggy perch]

also ended up dodging the msft layoff lmao

[jaunty basalt]

I guess

[wheat seal]

U have foresight or something

[jaunty basalt]

Nah just coincidence

[livid yew]

@jaunty basalt how did you get some many offers

[wheat seal]

U picked bbg over apple too?

[livid yew]

this dude is smart

[wheat seal]

Ngl I think most would’ve picked apple

[jaunty basalt]

Except most don’t have the choice

[livid yew]

maybe he is not an apple person

[wheat seal]

Unless it’s c++

[jaunty basalt]

As I’m using my iPhone

[livid yew]

I personally dont like apples consumer practices, therefore I would not take offer from apple

[wheat seal]

I’m on iPhone as well lol

Tbh apple is overpriced

But they still make quality products

[jaunty basalt]

Oh nah I wasn’t going off of that, they’re interview was nice and hard

Ayo pause

Mb

I mean like the process was pretty fast

[livid yew]

I mean sure if Apple gave me like 400K I might consider it

[wheat seal]

Bbg is safe the private owners are hella rich?

I don’t fully understand why I realize

[jaunty basalt]

I mean idk, I don’t make the shots

I just hope for the best

[livid yew]

Nothing is safe bro

[wheat seal]

Msft layoffs suprised me

[livid yew]

nah

[jaunty basalt]

Nah they had it coming with unlimited PTO

[livid yew]

every Big Tech overhired over the pandemic

"What goes up, must come down"

[wheat seal]

Oh yea that change was kinda sus

[livid yew]

it was going to happen from the start

just WHEN was the unkown

[wheat seal]

I think they will do another layoff round then

[livid yew]

yes

[wheat seal]

Because msft is paying everyone their pto for this wave

Next wave they won’t have to, but hopefully msft doesn’t do another round

[livid yew]

bro a big tech NOT doing layoffs, is more sus @wheat seal

[wheat seal]

I think it’s wild that msft can buy activision for 70billion

[livid yew]

nah, they have been around for a while

[wheat seal]

But can’t afford 1.5 billion to keep 5% of their employees

[livid yew]

lots of cash

[wheat seal]

I mean like they choose activision over their employees

[jaunty basalt]

Is that actually happening

[livid yew]

its not confirmed

so no

[wheat seal]

They didn’t buy it

[livid yew]

maybe

[jaunty basalt]

As in it went through

Yeah

[wheat seal]

Idt it’s possible for them

[jaunty basalt]

I swear it’s a monopoly

At that point

[wheat seal]

Yea something like that

[jaunty basalt]

Everything boutta be an Xbox exclusive

[livid yew]

wanna talk about monopolies

"the largest American multinational telecommunications conglomerate"

[foggy perch]

ehhh I feel like Apple culture is kinda weird based off the interviews I had with them

also Apple definitely depends on which team you were interviewed by

like I've heard most people despise the IS&T team while teams like the ML/AI teams are generally more liked

[fossil jewel]

[charred cliff]

Thoughts on bytedance sde?

[gray dagger]

Great pay

Only one that hasn't done the layoffs yet

[charred cliff]

Explain if you can please (i know what 996 means literally)

Like, team dependent? Bad reputation? Or?

Lmfao i heard this too about the Chinese language, and the big meetings are in Chinese as well

Only on the oa anyway lmfao

[nocturne seal]

Got reached out to for General Motors interview

[dawn sequoia]

you mean just like casually pick up Chinese on the job?

[nocturne seal]

Gonna alley-oop to one of y’all

[dawn sequoia]

I'll take it hehe

if that's a serious offer

[nocturne seal]

No haha 😦

[dawn sequoia]

F

good luck sir 🫡

[nocturne seal]

No I’m declining it but I wish I could pass it to you😢

[dawn sequoia]

dang

all good, I appreciate it

I'll spam some more apps later tonight or tmrw

also gotta Speedrun b75 for a couple oas

[nocturne seal]

Have you applied to GM?

[dawn sequoia]

not yet

[nocturne seal]

One of the few companies still hiring😪

[dawn sequoia]

LFG

how was OA?

[nocturne seal]

Don’t remember too well but I’m sure it was easy

[dawn sequoia]

lfg

[nocturne seal]

Completed Hirevue 12/20

Heard back on Thursday

[meager terrace]

Denied from geico

i just want a remote job

[meager terrace]

Good luck! Is urs remote