2023_grads

[fossil jewel]

he deleted his user too

LOL

let me see if i can find deleted post somewhere else

[strange ore]

the tc makes sense tho - the guy had already submitted essays for that class (masters student) so the change in writing style from him to an AI was super easy to spot

[pulsar mural]

[strange ore]

crazy how the easier it gets to cheat, the more braindead people are with trying to cover their tracks

[fossil jewel]

yeah he did this for his master's

[jovial latch]

oof

[fossil jewel]

and in the post he exposed himself saying the length and when he has the committee meeting to defend this

[jovial latch]

eh post is probably archived somewhere

not that i care enough to look

[strange ore]

ik "non-human creations" cannot be copywritten, but does plagiarism count if it's generated by an AI

[fossil jewel]

trick i used to find it is change re with un in the url

[jovial latch]

plagarism by AI huh

but then its the fact that you used AI

[fossil jewel]

its got an obvious style

[jovial latch]

well that guys fucked

[strange ore]

oh true

[fossil jewel]

very repetitive with a lot of fluff sometimes

[strange ore]

yea the post lowkey blew up so I'm sure someone could trace him back to his uni

that's an L

[fossil jewel]

i used it for my econ but i was smart enough to actually paraphrase and look at other online sites

econ is very objective so it wasnt too hard

[grizzled bronze]

yahk also rhymes with rack

[fossil jewel]

yeah thats on him

doing a masters doesnt mean intelligence it seems

💀

[nova coyote]

wondering if there is someone who are waiting for the update from Niantic

[west egret]

Degrees in general don’t mean intelligence

[fossil jewel]

100%, but you'd assume someone who's doing a masters actually cares about the subject matter more than a ug trying to get a paper to apply to jobs

[west egret]

Yeah especially when a Masters will cost way more than Bachelors even if you're in-state

[fossil jewel]

yep

[tiny light]

just got invited to Cisco Insight week for New Grad Software Engineer, does anyone know what kinda technical interview questions they ask?

[timber rock]

he's in oxford too, you dont get in there without knowing your shit about the subject lol

[fossil jewel]

💀

NO WAY

THATS EVEN WORSE

[jovial latch]

or just have rich parents

yadda yadda generous donation

[late kestrel]

thanks plaid for whatever u did

[fossil jewel]

so rich

[jovial latch]

35 bucks is probably higher up on class action payouts tbh

i mean shits normally like 'you get a dollar'

[pulsar mural]

so rich

[late kestrel]

lol yeah i think this is the 4th ive accepted over the years and the others have all been less than 5-10 bucks

[livid yew]

What did plaid do

[late kestrel]

plaided

[livid yew]

Bro i use plaid for a bunch of stuff

Like everything bank related

[late kestrel]

they probably sold what banks u bank with or smthing dumb

[livid yew]

Lmao

I don't care

[late kestrel]

ikr me neither

but money

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

[livid yew]

$35

[late kestrel]

dinner

[livid yew]

That's uhh an expensive dinner sheesh

[late kestrel]

with a drink or two

[jovial latch]

hcol shiz

also everything is expensive now tbh

[cobalt lake]

LOL

“Somethings not right”

[late kestrel]

The allegations include that Plaid: (1) obtained more financial data than was needed by a user's app, and (2) obtained log-in credentials (username and password) through its user interface, known as “Plaid Link,” which had the look and feel of the user's own bank account login screen, when users were actually providing their login credentials directly to Plaid.

so they collected your data, and if you were dumb, stole your bank account info

[jovial latch]

sounds about right

[livid yew]

pog

yeah they have everything lmao

[jovial latch]

god knows how many companies have my data

privacy is dead lol

[wheat seal]

Plaid did?

[late kestrel]

apparently

[wheat seal]

I didn’t lose any money

[late kestrel]

lose?

[wheat seal]

Nope

[late kestrel]

you werent supposed to lose any

or else it woulda been a criminal/fraud suit

[wheat seal]

What are they doing with bank account then

[late kestrel]

this is just a class action to get everyone to shut up

nothing probably

they probably didnt even collect it

its just the fact they might have

[wheat seal]

I mean it’s pointless it would be an insane fraud cause

Worse than ftx

[jovial latch]

nother day nother crypto scam right

[tardy geode]

cold emailed a recruiter only to find out they got laid off

[pulsar mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1046324565225259059.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[pine topaz]

We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of a severe case of chronic weebness or the pain of realizing that 2d girls are not real.

[grizzled bronze]

STOP IT. Hakuna matata!

[shut crescent]

is big tech even hiring rn

[grizzled bronze]

Microsoft is

Not officially new grad

But https://careers.microsoft.com/us/en/job/1510961

[shut crescent]

anyone know any data engineering job openings that recently got listed?

[tardy geode]

nope

[nocturne oriole]

WHY A PHOTO

WHY NOT EMOTE

YOU SCUFFED LOSER

[grizzled bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1046324565225259059.webp

[fossil jewel]

cant use discord

[warm latch]

As a new grad with 1.5 yrs of internship experience can you apply to jobs which say 2+ years of experience?

[pine topaz]

yes

[warm latch]

kk thanks like they would actually consider it?

[grizzled bronze]

Depends, typically the jobs requiring 2+ years don't count internship experience as experience. But it can't hurt to apply, let them decide if they want to reject.

[livid yew]

[warm latch]

thanks

[west pagoda]

I haven’t seen a case where internship experience is considered into years of experience ever in job apps tbh (as a person with 2 years of internships)

Usually it says “not including internships” but yeah no harm to apply

[gaunt steeple]

Yea i mean if internships count then coursework and personal projects should count too

[west pagoda]

Not sure why this is the case tho interns in any decent program do very close to the work of lvl 1 fulltimes

[gaunt steeple]

Which is a slippery slope no?

[jovial latch]

Bagh
Literally have had my code used in prod in my internships and did some significant stuff, but no 'internship' experience doesn't count

Lol

[west pagoda]

I feel like I probably could do equal or better a job than some lvl 1 engineers I’ve interacted with, so it sucks that years of experience is still given a big emphasis

[gaunt steeple]

Eh yeah good point

[neon perch]

Anyone interviewing with CVS health for data engineering?

[outer radish]

internships are oxymorons

need em for a high paying job outta grad

arent considered for experience while applying

[jovial latch]

Yea I definitely feel this, the whole YOE metric is bs
Doesn't speak to the quality of previous work

[rain patio]

Thats cap

Its some “experience “

Like better than someone with no internship experience

[timber rock]

It's not considered when a role asked for x number of years experience is what they mean

Yes it's still better than no internships

[west egret]

I don't even read job descriptions so I wouldn't know. Just apply to everything.

[timber rock]

Lmao

[green ibex]

I heard n3 is goat

[fallen fox]

most of the junior/entry-level positions on glasdoor/indeed seem to require 1/2+ y.o.e

this is so cursed

[worthy aspen]

Anyone have experience w figma interview? Full time

[neon perch]

Any idea on how many ng SWEs are flexport hiring

[steel pumice]

do you guys look up things while doing your OAs?

or is that taboo

i feel dumb looking up simple syntax like stoi and shit like that

[fossil jewel]

light mode

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-meme-staring-hd-watching-gif-23055924

[fossil jewel]

[timber rock]

yes

syntax and stuff like that is fine

[grizzled bronze]

Lol

[fossil jewel]

when did cisco open?

[pure mauve]

Flexport

anyone know if its basically reject if u havent heard since last fri

[dawn sequoia]

yall think would it improve my callback chances if i change a position title on my resume from "undergraduate research assistant" to "undergraduate research intern"?

[marsh sand]

Is Palantir US HC full?

I wonder if that’ll have impact on UK candidates

[grizzled bronze]

[dawn sequoia]

bro

if it counts as exp then why not

gonna need to find ways to qualify for positions that are for >1 yoe

it's so dry for <1 year

[grizzled bronze]

Go for it!

[dawn sequoia]

[dry salmon]

yeah

[neon perch]

Can I dm you?

[small mountain]

chatGPT

[dry salmon]

yeah

[ornate cliff]

any jobs?

no?

aight

[green pendant]

I had already done all this at 21 pfft

[vestal fractal]

SWE@ Amazon vs Flexport vs SIG?

[grizzled bronze]

Amazon

[ornate cliff]

I like Flexport the CEO is dope and I kinda wanna go to Chicago

They ghosted me 😦

[gray dagger]

It’s basically tech vs finance (sig) and right now finance is the only one that doesn’t seem as affected by layoffs

[late kestrel]

ikr me too

i didnt pass the first tech round

[ornate cliff]

how was it?

also wanna compare resumes? I don't know why I got ghosted 😭

[late kestrel]

whend you apply and did ya get the OA?

[ornate cliff]

didn't get OA

LMAO

[tardy geode]

i am having a hard time staying sane as an international student , with all the layoffs and stuff my anxiety levels are very high . I am somehow trying to control it but i am kinda failing at it and i am afraid it might affect my health . any tips guys 😦

[late kestrel]

rly weird. its like a super vague design a system lc type question

whend u apply tho 🤨

[ornate cliff]

Nov 17

[west plover]

Quick Question. How much do companies like Stripe, DataBricks pay compared to HRT/Jane Steet and Citadel (all for SWE)

[vestal fractal]

Persistence bro

[ornate cliff]

check levels.fyi

[west plover]

Yea I always read levels

But sometimes it says HRT SWE's make 375K

Some say 500K

[late kestrel]

ah maybe thats it. i had the interviews towards the end of september

my resume is nothing special

[ornate cliff]

damn timing is everything

[late kestrel]

yeah i applied 9/2, OA 9/12, interviews 9/29

[ornate cliff]

Niiceeee

Fak shame tho

Where you headed then

[late kestrel]

well not so nice cuz i failed

[jovial latch]

anyone heard from GM after doing that dumbass hirevue?

[late kestrel]

bb

[late kestrel]

havent heard anything after it since 9/21 lol

im fairly sure theyre full tho

[jovial latch]

most likely.....but then why would they put up a new fuckin app in janauary like a week ago

[late kestrel]

oh well then could be increased hc or renegs

[jovial latch]

fuck lemme find out when i applied

ok i applied on the 10th

so the posting was around then

ah fuck me it was an automated hirevue since i got it on the same day

ok thats not gonna go anywhere

although i think someone here said they take like, 4 fuckin weeks?

who knows

time dont move fast enough for my anxiety

[late kestrel]

welcome to the game

[jovial latch]

ye aint that the truth

im not trying to get my hopes up, but l3tech wants to do an interview with me and capitol one may move foward with me for their ah machine learning program

we'll see where that shit goes

[tardy geode]

this might be dumb but in resume lets say you are more on the Frontend side , so do you guys write ReactJS or react.js?

[jovial latch]

React

or ReactJS probably

[neon perch]

Just wait for the purple patch bud, it’ll come soon enough

[jovial latch]

yea i just wrote React on my resume

[tardy geode]

purple patch? being on a F1 visa is stressful in this economy . coz of the time crunch 😢

[neon perch]

I know man, I graduated December and I’m still finding a full time

[tardy geode]

you international too slayer?

[neon perch]

Yeahh

It sucks so bad

[tardy geode]

bro

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

ayo waddup Techie

[livid yew]

1:1 with manager tomorrow

Probably getting laid off

[green pendant]

relatable as fuck

worst part is having to treat every interview as if its your last

[livid yew]

So y'all getting no offers at all?

Even shitty places

[tardy geode]

i can feel this brooo ,

[tardy geode]

no one is ready to sponsor

they see international and are like NAAA , imo this is what is happening

[livid yew]

I mean just be here illegally?

Who cares

[tardy geode]

most of the times i feel its not the resume , its that question "will you req sponsorship"

[tardy geode]

bruhhh , easy to say it but its straight up deportation and ban

[livid yew]

Lmao oof

Not the ICE van

Coming to deport you

[tardy geode]

and i got this proved too

[green pendant]

Thing is this would be on record and you'd never be able to get a visa for most countries

Overstaying visa is no joke

[livid yew]

I mean what other country exists other than US

[neon perch]

Ifkr, it’s like my life depends on it

[tardy geode]

in one of the apps i applied wiht my personal mail and marked no for sponsorship . with my edu mail i applied and marked yes for sponsorship.

recruiter reached out on personal email and on the edu i got reject in 2 days

[green pendant]

Dprk of course

[green pendant]

The sun will shine again brother

Just hold on

[tardy geode]

i told the recruiter that i am eligible for STEM OPT and i don't req sponsorship . she was like no we can't do that

[green pendant]

This annoys me a LOT

we are allowed to work for 3 years anyway

Companies don't need to do shit

At least let us work for those 3 years

[tardy geode]

yeah sadge

but

[livid yew]

But you have to disclose that right?

[green pendant]

I wouldn't mind working there years and leaving the country if I have to

[livid yew]

Like you can't lie now, and then leave in 3 yr

[tardy geode]

in the app form , they ask on what visa you are on but some apps just ask will you req sponsorship

[livid yew]

Oh

See I would say "no" and then if they respond, then bring it up idk

[tardy geode]

and some good ones ask , "do you want to put some more clarification to the above 2 questions"

[livid yew]

Those seem nice

I had once they said no because of something like that

I put "US Citizen"

So lmao

[fossil jewel]

yeah i think if you lie and then get an offer and they try to verify with SSN, it would be pulled

[livid yew]

Well international people don't have SSN

[fossil jewel]

they probably have a Tax number bc everyone pays taxes

[livid yew]

Idk what a tax number isn

[ivory stratus]

i dont do taxes

i avoid them avidly

tax avoider

[livid yew]

Bro I just use my SSN for everything

[ivory stratus]

i use my ssn for my phone passcode

[livid yew]

And the government figured everything out for me

[ivory stratus]

beat that

[livid yew]

Wait it's only 4 digits on phone

[ivory stratus]

you can change that

[livid yew]

TIL I can make my Pin more digits

[fossil jewel]

uncle sam always gets his cut

[livid yew]

I've been paying taxes since 2015 lol

So much taxes

[ivory stratus]

i've been paying taxes since 2014

sadge

[livid yew]

[ivory stratus]

uncle sam y u take mi muny

[livid yew]

Well it's part of life.

Every country has tax lol

[ivory stratus]

explain Antarctica then

[fossil jewel]

if you have income outside US, they tax that too

provided the country reports to the US

[livid yew]

I mean technically I have crypto thru an outside thing

[ivory stratus]

tru

[livid yew]

But I never report itn

Cause it's never enough to bother

[fossil jewel]

well crypto that you're not exchanging right?

[prime palm]

Idk what this even beaches

Means *

[fossil jewel]

opt for stem ppl

i think

[prime palm]

I guess I'm fortunate to be a Canadian trying to with in the US

[fossil jewel]

is the plural of moose meese

[ivory stratus]

is the plural of boose beese

[vital vault]

I love taxes. Once I went to a casino in New Orleans and won a few bucks. Then I remembered to file a state tax return for Louisiana and paid two dollars in tax. All my friends think I’m crazy.

[livid yew]

I only report income over $2000 or whatever the limit is

[obsidian marsh]

what is electroimpact hiring? just got an email from them and i definitely didn't apply there

[livid yew]

Sounds like a scam contractor

[obsidian marsh]

it got sent to my school email too, which i don't use to apply to jobs

[livid yew]

Yeah

Probably just a email blast to everyone

[fossil jewel]

some people in my school got phished

[livid yew]

Yep

[obsidian marsh]

it was an OA invite

[fossil jewel]

oh

check the sender?

[livid yew]

I mean check the link before opening otn

[fossil jewel]

and grammar ofc

thats the biggest 🚩

[obsidian marsh]

[e-mail]

it seems legit enough

[fossil jewel]

it could be that your school dept just sent an OA to everyone

[obsidian marsh]

i already have a job so i'm not gonna take it

[fossil jewel]

and those who take it and do well can get invited to further interviews

[obsidian marsh]

just curious that i got a "thank you for your interest!" email when i didn't express any interest

[fossil jewel]

codepath did that for intuit

[jovial latch]

the next step of phishing scams: phishing OA's

ahhh

[fossil jewel]

like last year

they had us sign an interest form and we got an OA that we needed to complete for further steps

moved to karat then got rej :(

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel

[fossil jewel]

YOOOO

zoink

its mine

perfect

[neon perch]

They do. Once you work either on campus or on CPT, you get an SSN issued.

Too many scams these days, I got an email saying congrats on the offer and fill the paperwork. And they sent it to me like 4-5 times with reminders lmao

[fossil jewel]

shit grammar?

its not always a telltale if they're good

but font, email domain, and grammar is a good first indicator

if not, linkedin check

[dawn sequoia]

dam bro.. applied to a startup like less than 2 hours ago and already rejected... bro go to sleep why you reviewing apps at 10pm

[fossil jewel]

:(

[fossil jewel]

yeah its terrible

[pine topaz]

React

[fossil jewel]

its dumb scams even

personal assistant

[pine topaz]

@fossil jewel Goodnight

[fossil jewel]

someone giving away a free yamaha piano but shipping is 500

[neon perch]

We will keep your info on file for a period of time and contact you if anything matches your skills 🤡

[dense cloud]

bruh

google layoffs

https://www.reuters.com/business/google-parent-lay-off-12000-workers-memo-2023-01-20/

[marsh sand]

Best👏Year👏To👏Graduate👏

[deep wasp]

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/davos2023/card/microsoft-hosted-sting-performance-in-davos-on-night-before-it-announced-layoffs-cRHO4k295pSWarvtfQRJ

Not a good look 😂

[fossil jewel]

faang ain’t shit

unfortunate that people are the collateral damage

[open night]

guys you know where can i apply for smaller companies as new grad?

[deep wasp]

Indeed / google

This is what I mean when I say google btw

Linked in too

[night marsh]

Google and Riot laid off

Or are planning to

Riot is smaller but its also a smaller company

[tardy geode]

Google has already started

[green pendant]

The way flexport is inviting everyone to the finals I feel like they're about to pull a Bloomberg and reject 99% of us

[tardy geode]

Flexport After inviting zillions for finals and conducting finals . "Guys we gonna take only 10 candidates rest...you know the answer"

[late kestrel]

they literally just laid off 20% of their workforce

i dont get it

[late kestrel]

all of them happened after 1/15

[livid yew]

so Google Puts today?

[late kestrel]

layoffs good for stock

[timber rock]

layoff = more hc = more hiring

[livid yew]

oh

weird

I am not a investing guru lmao

[normal palm]

layoff = more hc? lol

[median stump]

you guys getting into finals LOL, I haven't heard back from them....

[normal palm]

smae

[timber rock]

yeah, they fire people so they can hire us new grads instead

🕵️

[normal palm]

hmmmmmm

[late kestrel]

why else would flexport fire 20% and then open a whole new interview class

[median stump]

Is linkedin premium worth for job application ?

or for Job search

[timber rock]

exactly, they feel bad for us so they fire all the experienced people to make room for us

[late kestrel]

get the 6 month zon student trial that comes with linkedin prem

[livid yew]

they rejected me the other day

[late kestrel]

me 2

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

same

[tawdry skiff]

It's the 20th

You can Venmo the $3 now

[livid yew]

you want your $6? I will send check in mail

[late kestrel]

donate it to the ng2023 charity

[nocturne oriole]

Ur pfp is cap

So no

[tawdry skiff]

????

[faint igloo]

Accordimg to blind layoffs hit basically everything but eng

[rain patio]

we need amazon to reopen their new grad apps so we can secure that 1x30 and coast

[late kestrel]

sheesh thatd be impressive. 20% is a large % to not hit probably their biggest org

[timber rock]

🙏

Still chilling with both oa's completed 😔

[compact vortex]

google reopening new grad?????

[timber rock]

They are open in Taipei

😎

[tardy geode]

that ain't gonna happen soon sadly

google and msft laid off some of the oldest peeps

like a saw a guy who was at msft for 31 years and got laid off

[compact vortex]

older people tend to be slackers

and those who refuse to learn

and grow

[livid yew]

yeah once you get to like age 33-35 it starts to slow down

[compact vortex]

younger folks also are willing to put in way more hours

[livid yew]

well as you get older you have family, kids to manage

time is tough

[compact vortex]

yeah

[tardy geode]

talked to a recruiter at veritas in a AMA session , she told that they gonna hire 35 interns for this summer and have already hired 18-20 . furthermore she mentioned that it had 2000 applications till today

#1 google fan💀💀💀

[rain patio]

hes probably rich and is not too stressed

[dawn sequoia]

crazy that Google stock up today bc of it imo

[green pendant]

my skip manager at meta told me this. new grads are good because they are way more hungry than older folks. plus they typically don't stick to one stack and are more willing to learn something new. that being said the cost to train them and onboard them is huge

even google lowered their hiring bar last year I guess

[dawn sequoia]

sucks.. train and onboard new grads or suffer from boomers and their tech down the line

[late kestrel]

thats usually the case with layoffs tho

temporarily bullish

[dawn sequoia]

ik just surprised that bad news like that makes stonk go up

[tardy geode]

do linkedin assessment badge help to stand out?

[sonic coral]

That’s the reason they layoff

[dawn sequoia]

but ig it's bc it's better for the business perspective

[sonic coral]

Investor pressure to cut costs

[dawn sequoia]

yeah

but in other cases, bad news in the world causes stock to go down

like covid

or company missed earnings

but ig it depends on who's perspective

interesting to see

[green pendant]

how difficult was the ood interview

[hasty birch]

Because those events are unexpected for shareholders and therefore guidance will be bearish. Layoffs on the other hand are done in large part (for public companies) to align with shareholder expectations - they don’t want to see drop in profits as a result of say too much spending

[dawn sequoia]

nicely explained

thank you

[crystal delta]

yeah he's probably just gonna retire off of this lol

[nocturne oriole]

You are both wrong for trying to find a correlation between old people or whoever being slackers and the layoffs

“Lowered hiring bar” etc

[rain patio]

Fax

[nocturne oriole]

Even if it did lower (who cares, they all did), that’s not why layoffs happen

@green pendant @compact vortex layoffs happen because of business needs and trimming fat

Where a less useful or profitable team is first to go

Inferring a bijection between those laid off being low performers is pointless

[green pendant]

no that was not related to layoss

that was a different text lol I did not mean to say it in the context of layoffs

and anyways I was talking about internships they don't even work at Google anymore

[tawdry skiff]

bijection dn

[marsh sand]

R u korean?

@thick grail have you heard anything back from pltr?

[sonic coral]

As far as I can tell all the layoffs so far seem almost random

Like lumen def wasn’t slacking off and got hit

[tawdry skiff]

:eww:

[signal trellis]

There was a partial outage yesterday, but everything should be resolved!

[tardy geode]

💀

[livid yew]

Damn people at OpenAI got laid off too

[gray dagger]

Bruh google layoffs 💀

Truly depressing

[livid yew]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/business/google-alphabet-layoffs.html

bro

nah

I am currently applying and setting up, never know

[green pendant]

where do you work?

[livid yew]

DN

[pine topaz]

tIKtOK

[livid yew]

I wish

bro

@pine topaz

[green pendant]

how about you tiktok dn

[livid yew]

@pine topaz how is @pulsar mural doing

[gray dagger]

comcast probaby never gonna do layoffs lmao

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural is bombing yemen and enforcing sanctions on afghanistan

[livid yew]

we did about 500 or so back in November

another 250 a couple weeks ago

[pine topaz]

dam 2 rounds in 2 months

[gray dagger]

okay nvm I take it back

I though y'alls business was booming with decline in netflix 💀

[livid yew]

so we do have some big bets on redacted and redacted this year

I have seen some really cool stuff, NDA though

[late kestrel]

damn @livid yew yall bombed yemen 750 times in the past 3 months?

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

pretty impressive

[lunar hatch]

anyone in the process with cubist for quant academy?

[clear bear]

linkedin down :(((

[tardy geode]

[livid yew]

yep

MSFT laid off too many people at Linkedin lmao

I mean its not uncommon for interns to do prod stuff

I did plenty in my internship

[tardy geode]

missed a semicolon ig

or a curly brace

working on mobile tho

[livid yew]

I asked to do prod stuff as an intern

I wanted the learning exp

[vestal pelican]

Back on this server after google announcing layoffs lol

[sonic coral]

Bruh my tl is a fuckin savage, during our team meeting he was like “this is just a little thing I noticed but I see in the faq one of the questions is “my manager is leaving, who will finalize my perf rating”” and then he goes to my manager and is like “well congrats on not getting fired” 💀

[clear bear]

Are there any Latex Cover Letter templates people can recommend? Also, sorry if this isn't the right channel to use!

[west egret]

Even if they aren’t, Google NGs with future start dates prob want a back up now lol

[vestal pelican]

This

[outer radish]

the boom after this tech downturn is gonna be insane

[nocturne seal]

4 month severance tho

[fossil jewel]

i expect all the laid off people will take jobs in other sectors and those would advance a bit

autos, finance, other f500 that’s not big tech

[vestal pelican]

For a new grad??

[nocturne seal]

Based on an email someone posted, yea that’s the minimum

[rain patio]

Ur pfp def goes well with ur comment

[fossil jewel]

all the boomer tech companies might get some of those laid off talent

neets message

[west pagoda]

Non-tech sector technologies in the next years 📈

[outer radish]

so many believers with me 😄

[fossil jewel]

boomer banks struggling to hold and retain talent

but they know that they might be able to get away with paying less

[fossil jewel]

good, about time

T-mobile leak

they need better cybersecurity ppl

[green pendant]

Insane talent going to those places tbh good for them

Including startups that never overhired

[fossil jewel]

nah neet is goated

his helpful stuff is free

[west egret]

No one really needs to pay for Neet’s premium stuff

[fossil jewel]

he gotta get bread in case he’s laid off

[west egret]

His free videos are more than enough for interview prep

[fossil jewel]

yeah his course is good old dsa which there’s so much resources for online

[chilly burrow]

I agree that he does have a financial incentive, but I tend to agree with the sentiment

Altho imo the sentiment is kind of empty

Like yeah, Tech will prob get better

[fossil jewel]

yeah his sentiment is “don’t simp for google or faang”

idk, if so, he might say it in his next video

[west egret]

He should be okay though because he has alternative streams of income.

[nimble cosmos]

Anyone know what final on-site pmg new grad is like

[tardy geode]

GCP is a burning ship , google cloud is dying slowly . they overhired and the biz just doesn't make much money

[fossil jewel]

i have a gcp thermos and duffel bag

i got it from a summer thing

free swag

[ivory stratus]

Google employees got free swag today too

[tardy geode]

the only company i am aware of that uses GCP is walmart

coz ofc anti amzn

[fossil jewel]

https://discord.gg/SyJTz2Qj

i’m not sure if it’s for premium members anymore but i joined before he announced it

uw

[coarse quiver]

He got promoted pretty quickly to L4

[fossil jewel]

oh nice

gg for him

[coarse quiver]

I'm wondering what is the distribution of layoffs across levels

[ivory stratus]

Daaaaaamn making big money

[tardy geode]

This week was exclusively cursed by satan

[west egret]

How many layoffs occurred this week

[foggy perch]

at least 1

[tardy geode]

18k+12k+10k(AMZN,GOOG,MSFT)

ig

[fossil jewel]

non-tech is gonna boom

[azure zephyr]

uhhhhh

not my google recruiter getting laid off

[fossil jewel]

[azure zephyr]

gg google

[fossil jewel]

:(

[prime palm]

LOL

[foggy perch]

Lmaoo for real?

[prime palm]

You know what's so fucked

With all the layoffs there's like

[azure zephyr]

opened up linkedin and his goodbye post is the first thing i see omfg

[prime palm]

100,000+ people out of a job rn

[fossil jewel]

and while that number is huge

its still a small %

[azure zephyr]

it must be so scary to be a full time swe right now

[foggy perch]

Lmaoooooo my google intern recruiter in the past was laid off too

Just looked him up

[fossil jewel]

12000 is 6% of google thats still crazy

[azure zephyr]

my overthinking ass would be shaking 24/7

i feel like i'd have to put in 20x more work everyday

[jovial latch]

god knows how many more layoffs we got coming

[foggy perch]

I'd just start leetcoding tbh

[livid yew]

do it

[fossil jewel]

crazy thing and i dont wanna doom

sadly even a lot of hard workers get the axe

[void flume]

so ur screwed no matter what

[azure zephyr]

lolll im still finishing up my degree i just meant if i were full time right now

oh for sure im hoping oracle comes through though

[sonic coral]

What

[fossil jewel]

its a matter of what org you're in and if its profitable

[azure zephyr]

atlassian abruptly stopped hiring new grads who passed their interview right after i got my offer so that makes me nervous

[foggy perch]

Clearly you should be cool and based and just get a bb offer ez

[void flume]

so ppl in start ups are gone

[livid yew]

startup DN

[void flume]

can u get rich if ur in a start up and they pay u in their stocks and then they blow up

[fossil jewel]

do your thing and have back ups

bless severance packages

[prime palm]

@azure zephyr are you booted from the G process now?

[tardy geode]

i still regret why the fuc did postpone my masters

FML

should have come in 2018 😭

[fossil jewel]

dont blame yourself bro

we cant see the future

[sonic coral]

My manager said we’re not backfilling our roles

Headcount effectively cut

[prime palm]

Dude

Bloomberg so safe

Kinda sad I threw

I'm worried about my offer getting yoinked lol

[jovial latch]

for now

inb4 apple layoffs (i dont follow this shit)

[fossil jewel]

and non techy shit

banks

[livid yew]

banks

[fossil jewel]

except GS

[livid yew]

local places

[fossil jewel]

defense

auto

[livid yew]

I mean everyone needs devs bro

MCDs, Taco Bell

idk

[prime palm]

Akuna rescinded on NG

[foggy perch]

Tbf akuna is starting to layoff

And that

[livid yew]

taco bell, wendys, chipotle,

[foggy perch]

I'll accept a Chipotle offer if every meal I get is comped

[sonic coral]

Not as many as they had before tho

[livid yew]

facts most outsource to India

[foggy perch]

I feel like citadel layoffs wouldn't be knsane

Since they're a tryhard company

[prime palm]

The other intern on my team at FB, got a new grad offer at Akuna, then I saw a LinkedIn post he got yoinked

☠️☠️‼️

[fossil jewel]

https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/who-gets-to-hire-all-the-engineers-5104369/

[void flume]

[fossil jewel]

high comp ones be laying off

[prime palm]

This is stressful lol

I'm going to a unicorn and aren't they the most volatile

[fossil jewel]

the move is to get smth and jump when market is better

[fossil jewel]

best of luck to you man

[prime palm]

Yeah I'm hoping I stay safe

I'm thinking of bumping my start date up

June start date rn

[tardy geode]

bruh this dude

[delicate elm]

bruh even C1 has started layoffs

[jovial latch]

what

[delicate elm]

it's over guys

[jovial latch]

fuck

[prime palm]

Capital one??

[tardy geode]

💀

[prime palm]

Link

[tardy geode]

FML

[jovial latch]

bro i literally just scheduled an interview with c1 today are you fr

[tardy geode]

why do you think so ?

[delicate elm]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-19/capital-one-eliminates-more-than-1-100-tech-positions#xj4y7vzkg

[jovial latch]

oh lord

[foggy perch]

Im glad I'm starting work asap so I can get some job experience asap

[delicate elm]

I mean yeah it's not engineers, but still

[jovial latch]

fuckin hell

i better not interview and then get some autmoated email saying 'this position as been cancelled'

[tardy geode]

THIS WHOLE YEAR IS CURSED FFFSSS 😭

[jovial latch]

twats

[green pendant]

"more jobs will open in january"

[west egret]

I rescinded my Power Day before they could

[green pendant]

2023 cursed year fr

[tardy geode]

i honestly gave second thoughts to this whenever someone said it

[jovial latch]

literally my dad and everyone else around me with job offers

fuck em

[tardy geode]

why you keep posting my pic without consent

[prime palm]

Hopefully it's just like

All the shit storm coming early start of the year

[jovial latch]

'oh you're just being a panicked doomer' they said

[late kestrel]

i rejected my debrief call

[prime palm]

Then later it gets better

[compact vortex]

i mean with all these layoffs, we will need more new roles at some point whenever the market improves

[prime palm]

I'm sure starting the new year is the best time to drop all this shit lol

[tardy geode]

later means atleast Q2 2024

[fossil jewel]

they laying off scrum

[prime palm]

Yeah I felt this

[plush lily]

He knows

[fossil jewel]

i think its bc they have a new tech guy from zon

and idk if they have scrum ppl at zon

[jovial latch]

cant do a whole 'i told you so' because then im 'too negative'

[tardy geode]

facts

[jovial latch]

as if its my fuckin fault

a buncha dumb c suites overhired 2 years ago

[tardy geode]

whenever i used to state facts to my friends about the market , they be like bro Y u beinG so NeGative

[fossil jewel]

yeah none of y'all are to blame

[compact vortex]

wait huh wtf

[fossil jewel]

scrum, not budget

reorgs it seems

[tardy geode]

a now they say "I take full responsibility , Its with a heavy heart bs"

[jovial latch]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-19/capital-one-eliminates-more-than-1-100-tech-positions#xj4y7vzkg

[compact vortex]

dang wtf

[jovial latch]

good old capitalism, it aint like the people actually making the decisions get punished for em

[fossil jewel]

since uh, im not sure what scrum folk do other than manage jira tickets

[jovial latch]

just us plebs

[fossil jewel]

should take a pay cut then

they'd still have their cozy CEO pay

[compact vortex]

all these layoffs make me even more greatful for the offer i have, i just gotta keep doing cool stuff and building up the resume so i can hop somewhere better when the economy recovers

[jovial latch]

not that it would do anything, most of their worth n wealth is tied in assets n stocks or whatever

ceo salary is a small fraction of ceo wealth

then you have my fuckin college president who gets paid 800k a year

[fossil jewel]

yeah when i start in feb, if you dont need a sponsorship i can try and give a jp referral

idk if it would help much but its worth a shot

reminder that its really not your faults

[jovial latch]

they rejected me in the fall, and then i forgot so i applied again last week with a different email

lol

[fossil jewel]

didnt tim apple go from 81m to 40m or smth

[jovial latch]

seems like they send an automated oa so that aint going anywhere

[jovial latch]

oh no whatever will the millionaires and billionaires do with their sheer density of wealth

when the fuck is the revolution happenign

[fossil jewel]

he can only have two mansions now

how poor

[jovial latch]

elon musk can go lose 200 billion dollars and still be a manchild billionaire

the wealth disparity is absurd

[green pendant]

my college president is the highest paid public servant in the state lol

[tardy geode]

i have no offer , i graduate in 3 months , international , linkedin makes my anxiety touch heights nowadays . Its hard to even have a sound sleep . I wake up early inspite of sleeping late .

[jovial latch]

they also gave my president a 800k starting bonus

college greed man

[fossil jewel]

they get mad applicants

[jovial latch]

so does everyone these days

[fossil jewel]

it wasnt till my 3rd application that i got an offer

[tardy geode]

at this point i don't even care about sponsorship but companies are not okay with it just because i am international

[green pendant]

pfft my president spends 200k a year on his personal garden

[fossil jewel]

the two times before i got rej after OA

[green pendant]

your president ain't got shit on mine

[compact vortex]

Dude you are goated. I hope you get something soon. Keep at it. Consistency is king

[green pendant]

instant ban for saying things like this

[fossil jewel]

oh this was 3 years of applying

[tardy geode]

the problem is time crunch

[compact vortex]

Are you international

[tardy geode]

yeah

[fossil jewel]

first time was covid time for summer 20, 2nd was that same oct for summer 21 internship then i got summer 22 internship

[compact vortex]

Aw shit bro keep trying. Apply to literally everything

[pulsar mural]

[tardy geode]

i am doing that but my efforts seem to go in vain

[grizzled bronze]

goofy ahhh

[compact vortex]

Try cold emailing and telling recruiters of your situation

Just don’t give up

[jovial latch]

i thought about doing cold emails, but man the amount of time do that for every company and every app

blegh

the couple i tried never even responded lol

[prime palm]

Dude I'm sorry to hear

It's so bad for everyone it's so depressing

[fossil jewel]

chat gpt time

if its working

[jovial latch]

ha

but then theres the whole effort with digging through a company and finding a recruiter email

blah blah linkedin searching

im just so drained

[fossil jewel]

oh there's an extension

that someone mentioned

[compact vortex]

Apollo.io

[fossil jewel]

appolo or smth

yes

[green pendant]

oh fair enough yeah

[jovial latch]

ah i see

[green pendant]

tbh you only need 1 offer to erase the hundreds of rejections

use that as motivation

[jovial latch]

well damn id have to go back and dig through all the companies and see whats worth cold emailing

big companies or startups?

idfk

i gave up on tracking my apps lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah i did that OA and thought i bombed it

actually cried myself to sleep bc i had a bad interview call that same day

and i had so many auto OAs due that week and the following

[jovial latch]

oh god auto OA's are so annoying

its like 'ya fine ill do it but im wasting my life'

[fossil jewel]

its crazy how everyone says meta and google hired everyone last summer, but i never even heard back from any big techs i applied to

its a terrible feeling

but it was something out of my control

one thing you can try to do is go on linkedin, find the laid off people posts and try contacting the recruiters on there and let them know of your situation

[plush lily]

Does that work tho

[fossil jewel]

worth a shot

idk everyone says tech was metro booming last year but i still struggled

100% skill issue on my end probably

[coarse quiver]

Most people didn't say this

[pulsar mural]

MEESTA BOG

[fossil jewel]

hmm interesting

i just remember everyone saying 2021 was a good year for tech

[coarse quiver]

Cs is an easier industry than others but it's not a gifted job

[fossil jewel]

oh for sure

[coarse quiver]

It was but economic situation changes

[fossil jewel]

i was pre-med first

[coarse quiver]

How is the life going?

[fossil jewel]

gotta blame all the day in the lifers /s

[coarse quiver]

What do you mean by adequate grass

What is the difference between grass and adequate grass

What are you action items to remediate to this?

[pulsar mural]

UR NOT A MANAGER STOP WITH THIS LANGUAGE

RED WAZ

[fossil jewel]

[pulsar mural]

[fossil jewel]

[grizzled bronze]

Flamin Hot

[foggy perch]

Least degenerate linkedin user tbh

[fossil jewel]

linkedin is one shitshow

[foggy perch]

At least theyre honest about being a grifter

[coarse quiver]

Maybe dm him

[e-mail]

If you work at G, it's pretty ez to find the manager of this mf

Email the manager with the LinkedIn post

[grizzled bronze]

CFBR

[coarse quiver]

Finished my internship 1m ago

Got a return offer, accepted it verbally but my recruiter got laid off today

[fossil jewel]

his shit is cringe ye

#alexcancode

linkedin is all wannabe ted talkers

agree?

[neon perch]

PLEASE ONE OFFER 🙏🫡

[fossil jewel]

agree?

this is how they do it

[coarse quiver]

What team are you on?

Is it part of search?

I'm not familiar with this pa

[grizzled bronze]

Oh I misinterpreted your post, so he's posting on his own LinkedIn posts, not commenting on others' posts. To be fair, he includes free resources within his post too. And the resume kit is just $4.

[fossil jewel]

#inspiration #coding #softwareengineer

[neon perch]

Ohhh I know this guy. I found his posts a little unbelievable. There was one time he was saying he didn’t know some basic coding concept or something and got into Google

[fossil jewel]

#alexcancode

he probably got in when it was reasonably doable

eh actually

[neon perch]

Yeaaa tf is this Lmao

[west egret]

When ppl post a pic of their twitter post on LinkedIn 💀

[fossil jewel]

like my guy your opinions arent hot takes or anything

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah I see that, but it's his own LinkedIn, he's allowed to promote his services. He also offers a 100% refund for any reason. $4 is peanuts to a Googler.

[coarse quiver]

Hmm, that sounds cool

Piper

[fossil jewel]

if 500 of people on post spent that $4, its a nice $2k

but how helpful are his kits really

feel like this server provides good insight when people do look at the resumes

[grizzled bronze]

He has 410 sales https://alexcancode.gumroad.com/l/resumekit?layout=profile

it shows over there

[coarse quiver]

Fr

Sphinx is also so goated

[livid yew]

where is the rest of his details? like previous jobs? courses at school?

bro this LI profile is so empty

he is for sure a hopper

lmao

I cannot fathom relocating that often

I mean I had a lot of stuff already from pre college days

like I put everything on my LI, maybe too much stuff

[fossil jewel]

not everyone puts pre-college stuff

[coarse quiver]

Seattle waz

[livid yew]

fair point

[fossil jewel]

i didnt even do actual coding till i was in my 2nd year bc i changed majors

[livid yew]

maybe I should remove some sutff

my oldest github commit is from 2013

[fossil jewel]

damnnnn

[grizzled bronze]

His posts get a lot of engagement, whatever is on there is good enough

[livid yew]

idk I have never heard of this dude until right now @grizzled bronze

like

[fossil jewel]

the big swe companies help

in his engagement

[livid yew]

I lied 2014

[tardy geode]

i can dm you

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

hey stop

[fossil jewel]

we're only a year apart in age

[livid yew]

well I was just a nerd at birth

who knows

[fossil jewel]

[green pendant]

why do I have an interview at 8:30 pm on a Friday dear lord

[gray dagger]

What company?

[night marsh]

Bruh I saw someone commenting about the layoffs in a LinkedIn post and then hashtagging their name at the end of the post

how tone deaf do you have to be I stg

[foggy perch]

must be from shitadel

[night marsh]

For real, like no one laid off is asking for your 1-minute-researched bullshit posts about the economy and a ton of layoff hashtags to go along with it

It's sad but a different type of sad than the layoff posts

[foggy perch]

clearly this is the optimal time to advertise your blog post on linkedin

[night marsh]

O(1) effishitcy

[foggy perch]

wtf is that emote

[fossil jewel]

death

[fossil jewel]

all for some clicks

linkedin is the new insta/fb

even worse bc its "professional"

[primal cosmos]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/

[night marsh]

fr

[night marsh]

lmao did you see the fake Google layoff post

where the person didn't get laid off but explicitly fired

[primal cosmos]

[sonic coral]

Was it the girl who was committing cc fraud

[fossil jewel]

yes

imagine committing fraud with goog salary

what a pos

[livid yew]

everybody is an attention whore these days

[night marsh]

yeah

[west egret]

$425 is basically peanuts to a G SWE

[livid yew]

I should start commit CC fraud

expense the most random stuff

[night marsh]

cc fraud and employment fraud now lmao (the second one isn't real but she's a double fraud for lying abt the layoffs)

[west egret]

Why would someone even do that

[night marsh]

My friend and I were just discussing that

[livid yew]

expense DN

[night marsh]

It's the thrill ig

That dopamine rush that you did something bad and you're ready to do it again. Same reason why ppl do Insider Trading

[west egret]

Did they get fired for the CC fraud or fraud directly relating to Google?

[livid yew]

I mean I had dopamine rush from something else in college

[west egret]

Although I’m sure just the CC fraud would be enough

[livid yew]

allegedly

[fossil jewel]

https://twitter.com/CassavaSF/status/1536520559336443905?s=20&t=s2eGc-lfCEKRs9JouOt30A

Cassava (@CassavaSF)

We have a very unfortunate news.

This group under a reservation name Rie Kurita came in for dinner with 6 guests this past Sat night at 7pm. Their total bill was $425.41.

We got a call from a gentleman who said his card was used at Cassava for that amount but he did not dine.

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[night marsh]

bruh

I just realized

That restaurant was down the street where I was for the summer

The name sounded familiar so I looked it up

[fossil jewel]

food good?

[night marsh]

I never went

North Beach restaurants can be hella expensive

[dawn sequoia]

fraud?

[night marsh]

I will say though, Taqueria Zorro and Cilantro SF slapped

[green pendant]

Two dots lol

[whole roost]

i actually LOL'd when i saw that

pure degeneracy

for anyone hasn't seen it

[wary birch]

😆😆

[green pendant]

That's actually insane it's not even like they're stealing something expensive this is probably less than their hourly wage

Smh

[night marsh]

Yeah but pretty sure they don't scrutinize $400 lol

this is just theft

that too

[livid yew]

dope looking place

I would eat there

weird to see masks in public still

like

you do you

[coarse charm]

that twitter chain is crazy

confronted via work DM and still said they didn't go to that restaurant

[livid yew]

I mean damn

female in tech

rare

big rare

[coarse quiver]

Mr techie down bad

[livid yew]

hey she aint bad

idk is this like normal in Bay Area?

[night marsh]

sir this is a CS discord

[livid yew]

sorry dude last time I was in California was 2010

so

[grizzled bronze]

Nah thieves can fuck off, cute female or not

[livid yew]

I mean

I have allegedly not stolen anything from a store/work

[grizzled bronze]

How dumb do you gotta be to steal like that when you're getting Google salary

[livid yew]

wait so she stole co-workers cc?

and then used at food

bro I think work is fine without that extra iPad

[sonic coral]

?

[coarse quiver]

To be fair, you might be a kleptomaniac

[livid yew]

idk female in tech is still less common

you know this

[coarse charm]

it wasn't her first time taking co-worker cc too

[livid yew]

ohhh

[sonic coral]

Yeah but not to the point you don’t see them lol

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/jesuschristmarie-jesus-christ-marie-gif-5863915

[pine topaz]

MR BOG, U ALWAYS THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX

[pulsar mural]

MEESTA BOG

[pine topaz]

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WESTOIDS VS GIGACHAD EUROPEANS