2023_grads

[tender sluice]

whats goooooood homie

[green pendant]

flexport's email to let you know about final round has a subject line of "regarding your application to flexport"

That 100% sounds like a reject lol

I almost didn't open the email

[neon perch]

I got an OA and a phone interview call which they scheduled almost 2 weeks later lmao

[nocturne oriole]

This is a vote for yahkuna matada's freedom. It is 3 days into his 7 day sentence, but we reduced it to 5 due to good behavior. Some fans have called to reduce it and end the time out today.
Vote
🍌 freedom for yahk
🍉 do the 5 days
🍍 good behavior is cap, keep the 7 days

[nocturne oriole]

@slate bobcat

[mint pebble]

does anyone wants to join leetcode with me. I use Java programming language.

[green pendant]

2 weeks is nothing Veeva and Bloomberg gave me interviews 2 months out lol

[foggy perch]

clearly the way it should be done is a leetcode duel vs an admin for his freedom

loser gets sent to the shadowitch realm

[nocturne oriole]

[pine topaz]

where is the option for a perma ban?

[restive holly]

any jpmc ppl here who took OA in December hear back yet?

[gaunt steeple]

wdym join

Im down tho possibly

[severe pendant]

Anyone has gone thru chewy new grad interview ? What kind of questions do they ask? How’s the difficulty? Thanks for any insights!

[west egret]

Admin has to do it in assembly to assert dominance

[foggy perch]

guess you have to collectively sacrifice a goat to the leetcode gods now

[tardy geode]

is it necessary to mention GPA and relevant courses in resume?

[foggy perch]

no reason not to

[tardy geode]

if you got 2+ years of workex

[foggy perch]

unless you're starving for space

o 2 years

[west egret]

I include GPA but relevant courses seems kinda iffy

[marsh sand]

Did you pass HM?

[whole roost]

I doubt anyone cares about your courses, use that space to flesh out your work exp

[slate bobcat]

FREE YAHKUNA

[manic dawn]

any thoughts on Palantir vs Hive AI? I prioritize on GC visa sponsorship + learning & career progression

[oak patrol]

How many days after completing the OA, did they schedule the phone interview for you?

[vague canopy]

Has anyone interviewed with Cirrus Logic?

[plush crane]

Palantir will be better for both

[nocturne oriole]

no but being ugly does and these things tend to correlate

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnBzQeNIOdK/
Me after taco bell

[chilly burrow]

I always c u sendin instagram reel clips

R u a growth eng @ meta?

If so can u refer?

[tawdry skiff]

No

I'm a loser degen that has too much time on their hands atm

[chilly burrow]

So u cant refer 2 meta?

[tawdry skiff]

I mean

Why would I refer a bot ?

:iuthink:

:iukek:

[chilly burrow]

So i can take more developr jobs 😃👍

[tawdry skiff]

:iueww:

[flat river]

kfc referral???

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.planetfitness.com/

[flat river]

The first time i came to the US i visited this gym and learned what a lunk alarm was

Wholesome

[livid yew]

They don't have planet fitness where you are from

[flat river]

Im from the UK

[livid yew]

Man is from bumfuck 3rd world lmao

Oh

[flat river]

No the statement still applies for the UK dw

[livid yew]

I would have thought it was international

[flat river]

Im a British citizen i just hold a green card

[livid yew]

Lmao

[chilly burrow]

Ur luky

Not all ppl work at places wit gyms

Or hav jobs 😭

[livid yew]

We got gyms in the apartment building, a couple at the office

I just don't often go to gym

[chilly burrow]

Ur v luky den 😊

[flat river]

i try to go everyday but idk if id find the time to when the new grad job starts (if a new grad job starts lol)

[livid yew]

Shredded SWE sheesh

[flat river]

I do so alr for uni

Its 5am rn

Fr my university gym is 30 bucks for one year, when i visited my parents in the US for the first time the nearest gyms were PF and LA Fitness, the latter of which was like 100 bucks a mo th

Month*

[livid yew]

Sheesh

Crypto bro

Gay

Bro it's a dead meme

Sure they made a couple grand

But

It's such a scam

Did I make 5k from crypto in the past 2 years? Yes. Would I do it again? No

[flat river]

5k from crypto: 👍
Losing all your hair in the process:

[livid yew]

I used to gym like 2 days a week in college

[flat river]

Hairline to the moon

[livid yew]

But then I got lazy

[elder locust]

lmao i legit lost some hair doing a hard hackerrank once

[livid yew]

Nah I got thicc hair. Like too much

[livid yew]

you can just copy paste in those

[elder locust]

i made 2.5k trading stocks

took it all out

[livid yew]

Not that I condone cheating

[flat river]

I had an interview with a HFT in London back in November and i saw clumps of hair in my hands before it started

[elder locust]

then few weeks later went back in

[flat river]

[elder locust]

and lost 3k

[flat river]

Thats when i knew it wouldnt go to plan

[elder locust]

so i lost 500 lmao

just stopped overall, illl jump back in once my new grad job starts paying me

also might be go for normal long term rather than risky gme type trades

cant be thinking about it all day

[flat river]

Putting a portion in every month and holding to assets sounds very adult like

Should be good

[elder locust]

[flat river]

sports betting is only fun when you're piss drunk and all-inning on sri lankan under 19s baseball or some obscure league you find on the betting host site

[elder locust]

my friend bet in league of legends finals and made 10 bucks lmao

[flat river]

betting 10 bucks that LCS will die this year

bruh

that's sick

[elder locust]

who tf watches ufc

@rain patio loves watches big half naked men

[flat river]

what you thinking about ngannou getting released

definitely, i agree

he probably preempted that

jon jones try to stay sober challenge (very hard)

if he keeps his head straight he'll go even further

jon jones getting back to peak performance:
adesanya dry humping costa post fight:

karma swung back on him lol

shit

nice

composed until the finish

[neon perch]

It took them 1 day

[marsh sand]

Hmm do you guys think solving all leetcode hards

will make mediums and easy both easy to solve

[lament summit]

If u solve all of the hards in existence I think it will definitely help

[teal jackal]

duh

yeah it would

[flint monolith]

has anyone interviewed for SoFi before?

[marsh sand]

My grind starts today

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

I may have gotten a bad roll of the dice with laptop quality roulette
my headphone jack is kinda loose now and is prone to popping out for no reason

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

MAN I just had a rude awakening with not being on campus anymore
I don't take school seriously and I missed an assignment LOL

[daring gazelle]

I missed having a routine

Now i have all time in the world to think about my life decisions. The sad thing is I think i would do everything the same if i went back ngl

[livid yew]

why u not on campus

Did you graduate already?

[teal jackal]

One class left

finishing my degree from home

since the class can be done fully remotely

its starting to backfire though

[livid yew]

Oh

I never had full remote classes

[radiant wedge]

Has anyone taken the Intersystems oa (TET) yet?

[earnest perch]

yes

in my opinion, don't overthink it. i got an instant reject lmao

[marsh sand]

Peeps who got Palantir HM invitation, did your email specify which technical you’ll get?

My invitation mail doesn’t specify a technical round

[fast nexus]

does anyone know whats Palantir's cooldown period? got rejected in Sep for new grad

was wondering if i can reapply now

[worn seal]

it looks like its only FPGA, theres a coding test and it's supposed to be written in a Hardware description language

[late kestrel]

hope you know verilog or vhdl

unless they use something diff

[marsh sand]

Email your recruiter; i’ve seen people reapply after 3 months

[marble wind]

Can anyone confirm if Akuna is rescinding full time offers?

[marsh sand]

I did see a poor lad talk about it in a LinkedIn post

[fast nexus]

@marsh sand my recruiter was a summer intern though

So she’s not at palantir anymore

[marsh sand]

Waaaaait that’s so cool;

[fast nexus]

What should I do then

[marsh sand]

Were you not in touch with anyone else? i.e. I have two recruiters/coordinators

Hmm perhaps LinkedIn?

[fast nexus]

Should I just cold apply again ?

Or should try LinkedIn

I guess I was sent the OA from another person

And her title on LinkedIn is recruiting operations analyst

So can I contact her then ?

But do you guys know if the Palo Alto location are still accepting people or not ?

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnSquLNDpP8/

[jovial latch]

Nother day nother buncha automated rejections nother day regretting my ms

Hate my life

I'm convinced some of the rejections are cause of my ms

All this effort and it leads to this bullshit

I did everything right

Get internships they said, get a master's it'll make you stand out, build a fucking network they said

All the fucking good any of that did

[green pendant]

master's is typically not a good idea for most people. it's one of the reasons why I tell people to know about the downsides before chosing to go to grad school to deal with the recession

[green pendant]

although idt this is the single reason for rejection

[jovial latch]

Yea that's the thing though right, I didn't exactly go to grad school, I squeezed the Ms in with my bachelor's, no extra time

I would have graduated this year regardless of the masters

Lol

Didn't pay any extra for it

Very time consuming though

[sudden sequoia]

oh i mean thats clutch but then why would it affect u negatively

[jovial latch]

I shared this a couple days ago but Walmart gave me this shit after passing an OA and then were about to move me on to an interview

I don't think I've mentally recovered from this yet tbh

[jaunty storm]

To even get a personalized rejection would mean a lot.

[jovial latch]

It doesn't sit well with me I can get rejected for being fucking overqualified here ahdn then not get shit anywhere else

Make me take a fuckin oa and personality test and then bother to notice I have a master's degree even though I said salary was negotiable

[marsh sand]

How does this make a difference though; aren’t you graduating this year regardless?

[sudden sequoia]

damn thats hella annoying

thats acc fked

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmeOS12IIf6

[neon perch]

This is so frustrating tf

[daring gazelle]

people who are in the industry often give "advice" on what I "should have done" in the past and not what I should do NOW. The truth I don't think anyone knows how to help me out in this market. Wasted potential and time I hope one day it will be worth it

[pallid kernel]

if you guys already had a job lined up after graduation, would you care about your GPA

[fossil jewel]

i only did just for my ego and to have those latin honors on my degree

otherwise i’d just not let it drop below a certain point

[green pendant]

only if it's perfect so far tbh

if it's not a 4 then it really doesn't matter I'll just do the bare minimum

[wary quest]

Pls has anyone here done the Palantirs dependency graph OA?

[lament basin]

ya

it’s just toposort

[fast nexus]

how long is the palantir hiring cooldown period ?

and is the palo alto new grad role still have head count ?

anyone know?

[lament basin]

last i heard from my recruiter

the only hc was in denver

[fast nexus]

Oh rlly ?

For both types of software roles

Like the regular one and the forward deployed one ?

[devout plume]

had a call with a recruiter today and she said dc and nyc for the forward deployed

[fast nexus]

so nothing open for palo alto anymore?

[lament basin]

just the regular one

not forward deployed

idk anything about that one

[fast nexus]

thanks guys

[fossil jewel]

i think it might’ve gotten discontinued???

[sonic coral]

Lol isn’t bogosort a meme

[prime palm]

6 mo - 1 year

[prime palm]

Full afaik. Only roles open is FWSD

[prime palm]

Why would a company be less inclined to hire you bc you have a masters?

It just means you're smarter

I don't get it

It's not like you're demanding more pay

[hard cobalt]

Are you talking about Palo Alto networks or palantir?

[prime palm]

Palantir for Palo Alto location

[tardy geode]

wokeup with 8 rejections

[eternal hatch]

I was doing an OA on Coderbyte for a startup yesterday, and it literally had a search bar under the question prompt

[strange ore]

dude palantir sucks. they’re giving me 2 days to prep for my final and won’t tell me what it’s on.
granted this wouldn’t be so bad if I hadn’t stopped doing LC 2 months ago but gddm

[vital vault]

It’s not you. It’s this economy. Last year people got into Amazon with only a bootcamp, no cs degree, and no internships.

[tardy geode]

so you mean in this economy BS would be more preferred than MS?

yo wtf

where did you hear this @candid lagoon

yesterday someone posted in #2023_grad_process about google return offer

[prime palm]

swe new grad or forward deployed

if it's hiring manager it'll be leetcode or another decomp

[thick shell]

My interviewer didn't show up and my recruiter ghosted me this happened 2 months ago. You think it's worth it to reach back out?

[tardy geode]

no loss in trying

[strange ore]

swe

[livid yew]

Woke up with DN

[thick shell]

You right 🫡 .

Hoping I don't get shafted for a second time lmaoo

[tardy geode]

ayy

amazonians gotta brace for tomorrow . good luck

[rain patio]

this is what I got from a Palantir recruiter this morning

looks like only FDSE roles open

[fast nexus]

thanks alot

this is helpful

[prime palm]

@strange ore ?

[livid yew]

Why?

Layoffs?

[strange ore]

recruiter emailed me this morning saying I was moving forward to final round for consideration in Denver as SWE

[tawdry skiff]

banana and micropenis is in it together

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/17/23559412/microsoft-layoffs-job-cuts-2023

[strange ore]

they gave me the opportunity to have my final interview the week of 1/30 so it’s possible there’s still some recruiters who have hc left idk. maybe my recruiter just didn’t get the memo lol

[livid yew]

E-commerce issues. Bro I was still shopping in-person during COVID

[prime palm]

???

then why do i know people with covid rn

[livid yew]

Oh

Sadge

Maybe it's still real

Yes it still exists, so does the flu

It's starting to fall into that category of manageable

[tardy geode]

yeah

[prime palm]

bro deleting receipts

lol

[livid yew]

Sorry for my retood conservative takes @grim ore

[tardy geode]

wtf

[livid yew]

I'll rop tonight

[livid yew]

Receipt? Messages you mean

[livid yew]

[daring gazelle]

Its Over

Bad news on top of bad news

everyday

[livid yew]

Hey tech stonks are up

[daring gazelle]

would take months to half a year for us to feel any affect

time I don't have

[livid yew]

Nah gotta be risky with options

[daring gazelle]

no money

[livid yew]

[green pendant]

big tech hella weird for hiring like crazy last year tbh

some of these cxo's really be having peanuts for brains (looking at you Boz)

[tardy geode]

interviews had no bar

meta was asking straight up top 30 tagged and hiring

[green pendant]

my meta interviewer asked me to system design a chess game website rip lol

[tardy geode]

my friend's gf who couldn't even code components properly in react mugged those 50-60 tagged quests and got in

last spring

💀

[green pendant]

the crazy part is, being an intern at faang is for the most bit not that difficult

at least swe intern

so for the first time in probably ever, the bar to entry matched the difficulty of the job

now we are back to grind and hustle for 3 months straight so you can have a job where you write 100 lines of code a day

[tardy geode]

and she was so lucky to get a major infra team which reports directly to the Director of SWE . so like it was a shit imp team and their team is immune to layoffs since they are the POC for any major outage

[livid yew]

How much work you do as SWE intern at FAANG?

[livid yew]

Only 100

[tardy geode]

and 11 hour work week

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[green pendant]

I saw for most of my peers, it really wans't that difficult at meta

~20 hours a week would be enough

[livid yew]

I'd purposely make my job harder bro

Nah fuck that

[green pendant]

for full timers maybe around 30

but that's it

[livid yew]

Less than I want to work lmao

[green pendant]

fucking hell my internship at a mid tier tech company was way more demanding than facebook

[livid yew]

Yeah

My internship, I did production deploys by 4th week

[green pendant]

like over there you are actually forced to figure a lot of shit out on your own + difficult projects + more responsibilities

[livid yew]

Imo that is better tbh

[green pendant]

meta felt like following a manual lmao

every milestone was so clearly laid out

[livid yew]

Like in the long run, you get more experience

[green pendant]

and it felt like I was working on a toy project

[livid yew]

Meta is too canned

I would agree

[green pendant]

for sure

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[fossil jewel]

he’s back

ew

[livid yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462744564948795423/962352852674707486/cate-1.gif

[fossil jewel]

techie the type of dude okay with being overworked

[livid yew]

[green pendant]

lmao zon I've heard some conflicting stories about

but goog and meta seems to be easier

cries in unemployment

although that's amazon too nowadays

@ god when will it be my turn to be an HFT dudebro

I too want to make 500k a year and get carpal tunnel

[gaunt shore]

Any tips for last minute palantir decomp prep? got one in <36 hours

[crude saffron]

The ftc ruling won’t change that much

But market will probably slow in general next few years

[green pendant]

what color is your lamborghini

[tardy geode]

i built a whole ass api authoring tool alone during my internship

and now my team is even using it

FFS but no RTO , i feel betrayed

[tardy geode]

top g

[green pendant]

this is why you always delete your code on the last day of the internship

/j

[pine topaz]

@fossil jewel how was your day>

[tardy geode]

well i was asked to put in github commits

so there was no way i was gonna be able to delete it

[whole roost]

free top g, only he can stop the tech layoffs

[daring gazelle]

Top hates Tech people though

he called wagies brokies

[whole roost]

nvm don't free him

[green pendant]

top g the kinda dude to say wagies brokies but then hire full stack developers for 9$ an hour to work on hustler's university

[whole roost]

he pays in top g exposure

[green pendant]

for the flexport technical interview, is it system design?

[fossil jewel]

longggg

doctor offices have the longest wait times

[livid yew]

@pine topaz how was your day

@pulsar mural how was your day

[nocturne oriole]

free young thug

[livid yew]

Someone new got banned

[daring gazelle]

Who is that?

[dusky juniper]

Review high level sys design concepts, make a cheat sheet, keep in mind that it's just a conversation about the system's requirements, features, limitations, and future expansions

[gaunt shore]

any resources in particular that helped you out ?

[teal jackal]

My conflicting story is that my team asked me to make a useless dashboard project and my mentor and manager barely helped

[chilly burrow]

System design primer

[limpid jolt]

hows the flexport interview

[dawn sequoia]

gm king

what are you up to these days

[chilly burrow]

skool

dats it

[dawn sequoia]

F

hows sckool goin

[chilly burrow]

Good

Just tryna enjoy my last sem

B4 grad

[proud sapphire]

did anyone interviewed with Databricks(sec)?

[dawn sequoia]

LFG

[proud sapphire]

role?

[pine topaz]

are you okay

[livid yew]

CS

bro I have not used that website in a minute

[fossil jewel]

good ol check ups

[livid yew]

[jovial latch]

being ghosted is basically a rejection

especially if the damn recruiter doesnt respond to your email

[grizzled bronze]

We can't know, it was just a holiday too. Just follow up if you haven't already yet and ask.

There is. They said they'd get back to you Friday, so you can follow up and ask for an update.

[livid yew]

[whole berry]

the money will be fun

you better be ecstatic about it

[jovial latch]

man i dont give a fuck what a company would have me make as long as salary is decent

gotta establish that disconnect from work and personal fulfillment

well, i guess the term is work life balance

work should not be your whoel fuckin life
but honestly some people get super crazy into the stuff they do at their job

ive always kinda indifferent to it

viewing work as a means to get money so you can do what you want in your free time

cause god damn i get annoyed at people in my college just going on non stop about cs
how do people even do hackathons

[unkempt forum]

true

[green pendant]

yeah nonstop is shit

was out with some cs grad friends and some of them randomly start talking cs start and I zoned tf out

like nah man I'm off the clock here I am not thinking about systems rn

[jovial latch]

i very intentionally dont do any coding shit outside of college or internship stuff

this shit my fuckin career already lol

[dawn sequoia]

im scrolling thru linkedin (cringe) looking for those "comment for access to this list of actively hiring companies" posts, so if yall see any lmk pls

[teal jackal]

its usually bait to get the down bad to join some dumb group

often with grifting

honestly if i had the death note id use it on anyone who tries to scam or otherwise take advantage of the unemployed and laid off

[dawn sequoia]

yeah im just looking for links to google sheets or something that has a complied list of companies

not tryna join groups or connect with randos

[green pendant]

bro what kind of salary are ya'll asking for lmao

[dawn sequoia]

i found a couple before

[dawn sequoia]

i put - or 0

[green pendant]

"fuck 6 figures I make 4000 figures"

no I was talking about the fact that it said 4000 characters lmao

like why did they think that was necessary lol

[livid yew]

So I just found out, we have a slide in my apartment building https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041742285735473154/1065087783745617980/PXL_20230118_015229527.jpg

who needs that

[green pendant]

My intrusive thoughts making me wanna jump without the slide

[livid yew]

its 3 floors bro

not sure about that

[outer radish]

anyone have an idea that can make me 50 mill by the end of the year?

need cash 4 realsies

[livid yew]

plz dont

idk who this is for either? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041742285735473154/1065087785482059806/PXL_20230118_014732165.jpg

[jovial latch]

aight, any companies (that arent contracting/scam stuff) looking to hire immediately or do a whole start in janurary thing?

college schedule kinda light soooo i might as well try that

[hasty birch]

Trade Weekly options (specifically 0DTE and super high IV), literally can’t go tits up

[dawn sequoia]

also interested

[hasty birch]

Recent post in process channel saying grant street group looking for immediate hires

[outer radish]

tbh i been trading snap options over the past 6 months and i've made an obscene amount of money riding the hype down and up

by obscene i mean not enough to replace a job but enough to buy me at least like 8000 mcdoubles

[peak ferry]

First ones free they said

[hasty birch]

I made a shit ton in march 2020 riding the downtrend loading up on puts

Ofc did not anticipate the immediate reversal lmao

[outer radish]

yeah the past couple of years were fucky

i was thinking bout loading up on leaps when i heard the fed started pumping out free money

but ur boy flaked 💀

left VAULTS on the table

[jovial latch]

when the whole dip happened in 2020, me knowing nothing about stocks put a buncha money in some vanguard index fund
and well thats my rent payment now so honestly pretty happy bout that all things considered

[hasty birch]

I was also like 3 hrs too early from taking in absolute bank (like a few hundred grand) on a 0DTE Tesla call I think in 2021 but I sold just a bit too early, still made a decent profit

[jovial latch]

i sold that shit some months ago

[outer radish]

holy shit 0dte what kinda mad man

[jovial latch]

i cant imagien actively following stocks and doing puts n shit though

[outer radish]

damn thats balls to the walls for sure, you have. big N internship to fund that gamble?

[hasty birch]

Nah they were cheap because it was 0 day lmao

They just rose a ton in value by the end of the day

[outer radish]

tbh for me the mentality is whenever a company's stock drops a ridiculous amount like it has over the past couple of years and the fundamentals or growth outlook are still strong i just dump cash into that i.e. yolo

[outer radish]

thats wild

lowkey a lottery hit

[hasty birch]

I do anticipate stopping the degen ways and just going the boring ETF route once I start FT

And likely only a small amount on options

[livid yew]

I want to get into options

Any good resources to learn

[dense blaze]

Stock options are only for private companies

[livid yew]

No like options of public companies bro

[neon perch]

Anyone interviewing with CVS??

[green pendant]

CVS hires international??

[teal jackal]

what the hell kinda place you live?

it looks so cool

[livid yew]

[hasty birch]

YouTube, seeing it visually explained is useful for different strategies . And from there just Google anything you don’t understand (like terms, greeks, etc)

[livid yew]

your moms house

nah a 25 floor high-rise in Philadelphia is the real answer. @teal jackal

[teal jackal]

Interesting

Do u live close to a college?

[livid yew]

somewhat

this building is mostly 20s something tbh

like fresh grads, and young professionals

also your mom

[teal jackal]

Id do Incoming M.S at wherever you're going above your bachelor's degree under education

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

That's pretty cool then

[livid yew]

@shadow pecan I see u lurkin

ayo

stop

I work at Discord

[west egret]

@livid yew your mom’s a nice lady

[livid yew]

hey wait

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hey-fuck-you-south-park-randy-marsh-gif-16063049

[late kestrel]

man and my succ emote got me a warning

[grizzled bronze]

Can I have a referral for their internship program

[livid yew]

this was joke

[fossil jewel]

L

[livid yew]

I have been trying for Discord for years bro

[fossil jewel]

mod the mods

[livid yew]

I wish they would just check out my discord bot

it even has NLP in it now

[fossil jewel]

they probably saw all the DN jokes u left in here

[livid yew]

bro

its discord

[grizzled bronze]

They liked it, they just didn't like your Discord posting history

[livid yew]

not a woke company

they dont care

[grizzled bronze]

They like hiring seniors mostly

[fossil jewel]

techie is a senior

[livid yew]

senior citizen

[fossil jewel]

[neon perch]

Yuppp

CVS is hiring massively for data engineers rn

[livid yew]

stonk time

[grizzled bronze]

What are you buying?

[livid yew]

nothing

just setting up for the layoffs tomorrow

[fossil jewel]

when layoffs happen stocks go stonk

[marsh sand]

Did anyone’s Palantir HM invite indicate what technical they’ll be having?

i.e. coding or decomp?

[livid yew]

[hoary dagger]

I’m an international student, graduating in May. How can increase my chances of landing a job with sponsorship?

[frozen thistle]

Hey man! I'm too international student and struggling to land a job! This is indeed a tough time! Applied to 100+ jobs still did not get any call yet

[pine topaz]

@nocturne oriole im tired of this

@peak ferry

now she is doing it to me

[nocturne oriole]

Your fault for having a 2400 timestamp

Who in the world has 00:44

Snitch

[pine topaz]

STOP IT U AMERICANS

[green pendant]

What's a silly easy game that I can download on my phone to kill time/destress

[nocturne oriole]

team blind

[torpid birch]

@green pendant not a game but you can read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 7: Steel Ball Run

[neon perch]

Network on LinkedIn, apply to 500+ positions Atleast, make sure your resume is kick ass

[nocturne oriole]

Imagine reading manga on phone

[torpid birch]

That's the most optimal way

Unless ur paying for the $10 monthly ultra jumps

[green pendant]

I once complained on team blind that this dude in the toilet stall next to me at work is playing tiktoks at full volume. the dude replied to my post lol.

[green pendant]

why?

zoom in/zoom out is too tedious?

[fossil jewel]

stardew valley, 5 dollars

wholesome farming game

[green pendant]

Oh yes great idea

Heard a lot of good things about it

[slow owl]

candy crush

stardew is pretty fun too

[tardy geode]

+1

[tardy geode]

when people say don't apply everywhere with the same resume and tailor it according to the job description/position . So when people do this they also change stuff on linkedin?

i never understood this

can someone explain?

[whole roost]

Nah Tachiyomi is lit

[neon perch]

It’s a pretty standard advice. It’s mostly to stand out from the rest so I guess it’s only important when you’re applying to jobs you really want and you tailor your resume specifically to match the job description perfectly but I don’t think it’s a helpful tip tbh. Make your resume more general

[green pendant]

I mean modifying resume is a good idea but tbh if you're applying to 6-7 roles a day it does get tiresome

Feel like tips that would work other years won't work this year due to the situation

[marsh sand]

https://leetcode.com/problems/candy-crush/ ?

[green pendant]

Mr pengwing sir may I remind you it's currently 2am

Pls do not share leetcode links

[marsh sand]

it's 7am in london doe 😄

[green pendant]

That's somehow worse lmao go sleep

[slow owl]

bruh

[fossil jewel]

man leetcodes every breathing second

[tardy geode]

i was so sick of LCing that i did some react,node practice

for a change

[marsh sand]

this is fun ngl

anything but sys design

[lament basin]

can’t sleep

results week

[teal jackal]

I wish I had a backup offer tbh

[teal jackal]

kinda crazy how back in 2010 you could have bought a brand new car for $9k

nowadays the cheapest new car's msrp is $16k

[livid yew]

2010 ain't that long ago bro

Like 12 years

But damn I drive a 2010

[teal jackal]

but even accounting for inflation, the days of buying a bargain basement econobox with nothing but 4 wheels and an engine are over

I kinda like the super cheap econoboxes but I'd rather get an expensive sports car first

expensive sports car first, and then if I buy a house with a driveway I'm buying a cheap commuter car

[livid yew]

Why the expensive car

I don't want that, cause I'm not planning on driving a lot tbh

[teal jackal]

That's exactly why I want an expensive car, because I won't drive way too much

because my first car will be for the sake of buying a hobby, not buying a tool

im watching my dad be in a zoom meeting and nobody does webcam on

honestly

[livid yew]

I always turn my webcam on

[teal jackal]

do other people have it on or nah

tbh whether or not webcams is awkward depends on team concensus

honestly I theorize that software engineers can probably go their whole lives without ever showing their face at work if they really wanted to try to

[livid yew]

Oh well I work in the office most days, so it's different

[teal jackal]

makes sense

tbh every day in person isn't gonna be so bad

gonna give me a good environment to hold myself accountable to my work

you kn0ow

[zinc raven]

anyone have an offer from Expedia in London?

[livid yew]

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/18/23560315/microsoft-job-cuts-layoffs-2023-tech

:iukek:

[late kestrel]

you have such a pretty smile

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

I think for my cheap commuter car I want a used Rav4 with the optional third row

however the 7 seat rav4 is exceedingly rare

if i cant find a rav4 ill get a mitsubishi outlander with 3 rows

[rain patio]

Gm gm everyone

It was inevitable

Has this channel been less active for a while?

[pine topaz]

a lot of us went homeless

and no longer have access to discord

and the itnernet

[rain patio]

Not anymore though 😂

I think the layoffs should be done by march at the latest

Should be a good environment to find a job after that

[timber rock]

at least amazon's freeze is supposed to last through q1 so unless they extend it yeah march/april may be a decent time

just not much happening right now so there's not a whole lot to talk about I think

[rain patio]

Yeah exactly

I stopped applying to jobs cause there are none

And the bar is too high for OAs now

I apply like 5-10 a week but nothing serious

[rain patio]

Yeah would rather wait for the upturn in hiring

The more layoffs the better it is for new grads. They are firing to hire.

[pine topaz]

thereoteicaly though they can keep freezing in q2 if economy gets worse

[teal jackal]

I shitpost exclusively now

There's nothing to look forward to now

[teal jackal]

I wish lol, doubtful though

[rain patio]

A worse economy is excellent for tech. Because then the rate hike cycle stops!

[timber rock]

Exactly, I'm definitely not getting my hopes up

[pine topaz]

inflation rate is still high, so expect more rate hikes i guess? :l

[rain patio]

So a really really abysmal jobs report would mean the fed has succeeded

[teal jackal]

furthering my hypothesis that the economy is a zero sum game

[rain patio]

Are you still looking for new grad rolesv

[timber rock]

Yeah

[rain patio]

Honestly we need a lot more layoffs

[rain patio]

Same

[pine topaz]

until we see a high unemployment rate

and low inflation

it ownt get better imo

because thats when fed will stop hiking it

[rain patio]

Yeah I agree

[pine topaz]

keep expecations low, expect more layoffs

[rain patio]

The bottom is in when google does mass layoffs

[lunar zinc]

will it?

[faint turret]

L

cancelled my phone call 😢

[teal jackal]

F

[tardy geode]

put in my first cold email of the season , got an out of office reply

what a start

[tardy geode]

they already doing some in their other companies like sharechat , verily etc

i never thought MSFT would do layoffs , but damn

[shut fulcrum]

Wasn't that a while ago?

[nocturne oriole]

friendly reminder that if u haven't entered job market these layoffs might actually be a good thing for u
now that they've all trimmed fat, headcount and budgets get re allocated such that by time u grad in May the dust has settled

instead of a potential layoff looming over your head later

If you're already graduated, i'm sorry

[tawdry skiff]

so

[livid yew]

2020 grad

[tawdry skiff]

🥹

[livid yew]

I'm so old you all young people scare me

[shut fulcrum]

Yea but u gotta compete with all the laid off ppl with big tech on their resume and better skills

[nocturne oriole]

this is true lol, it's just a silver lining in terms of

a situation where a very bad thing is inevitable (bad market + recession)

you would rather mass layoffs happen before ur working

instead of having an offer swept right out from under you

[tawdry skiff]

https://fortress.wa.gov/esd/file/warn/Public/SearchWARN.aspx
878 laid at micro today

[tardy geode]

i am scared for life if i am gonna get something before graduation , i was planning to call my parents for my convocation but i am giving second thoughts about this .

I worked so fucking hard to come at this stage of my life . lot of sacrifices , worked my ass off to get into a good school and then to get an internship. My internship was a dream come true , it is what I imagined and aspired the day I landed in the US (decent big tech non faang , bay area , good pay) . I worked day and night to convert it to FT but then didn't get a rto due to hiring freeze and org budget issues which broke me from inside and it took me like a month to get over and get backup ,grind again . Then I applied to bloomberg and got a phone which motivated me from that setback , i grinded my ass off the entirety of november so that I can ace all rounds but even after a smooth phone interview i got rejected . in between all of this i had shit flatmates and roommates who made fun of my stress and back bitched about me a lot . i felt lonely and cried sometimes alone as i had no one to talk to . last fall was a mess and i hoped this spring would be something better but doesn't seem like it . I haven't lost hope but deep down i am scared and stressed . hope i end up with something.

(ik its too long but i am just so burned out and wanted to vent )

[livid yew]

This is public info

[tawdry skiff]

that is correct

[livid yew]

That's crazy

Must be a west coast thing

[pine topaz]

hope it works out in the end friend

[tawdry skiff]

#rant

[spice rock]

How often do offers get rescinded during negotiation? I asked about it to a startup that lowballed me now I'm worried lol

[pine topaz]

very rare in normal market conditions

but anything can happennowadays

[spice rock]

yeah that's why I'm worried, hectic market this year

Just wondering if there's any anecdotal evidence from ng this year

[teal jackal]

a bit of a cope

I feel like c/o2023 is getting skipped in terms of participation in the university hiring pipeline

thats the pessimist in me

but then again maybe a lot of companies might open special university hiring pipelines for the c/o2023 kids who haven't found an offer yet for immediate fill

[tawdry skiff]

Special pipeline for 2023 kids

:iukek:

[rain patio]

2022 grads literally are dodging layoffs like the mf from matrix

Got job just in the nick of time after Post pandemic boom and before recession

[pine topaz]

das me shitting bricks rn, senior devs getting laid off but im somehow not impacted yet

[nocturne oriole]

When yahkuna gets laid off this server will literally have a mourning period

And shut down

[livid yew]

[tawdry skiff]

@pulsar mural

Gets

Laid

All

The

Time

What

You

Mean

About

Mourning

Period

[late kestrel]

[rain patio]

Who the fuck is yakhuna

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural's lockheed return offer will be rescinded then we can all mourn and grief

[livid citrus]

How long to hear back after gecko robotics OA

[nocturne oriole]

Who the fuck are you

[winged shale]

I NEED THIS

[west pagoda]

Imagine companies giving anything close of a shit about new grads without offers

[rain patio]

I’m ur dad. I’m coming home

[teal jackal]

Lmao not a single employer gives a shit about whether or not class of 2023 ends up being the skipped generation

but I'm saying this for pragmatic reasons

maybe they'll decide they need to expand entry level headcount immediately, enough for new grad hiring to reopen

who knows?

too early to say

[timber rock]

maybe im coping, but i would be pretty surprised if they all stay frozen until co2024

[tardy geode]

we praying for you brother

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[livid yew]

I know some 2021 and 2020 grads laid off bro

[timber rock]

at leats imnot sure exactly how it was in the us, but here in the uk meta and google didnt open at all and amazon froze right after opening. so no one has offers except a handful of interns

[prime palm]

I think you're gonna look back one day and be happy you didn't go back to Walmart / get the Bloomberg offer

[livid yew]

And even some 2019 and 2018 grads got laid off too

[teal jackal]

are you sure chrispy?

[prime palm]

Everything happens for a reason

[teal jackal]

not every story has a happy ending

[prime palm]

meditate and realize you dont know what is best for you. If you broke your leg you'd probably be pissed. If you missed a plane to a vacation destination because of your broken leg, you'd be even more pissed. If that plane crashed then the broken leg would be a blessing

YOU. DON'T.KNOW.WHAT.IS.BEST.DAWG!

[prime palm]

Maybe not, but there's not only "one good outcome either"

In my experience anytime I wanted something, and ended up not getting it

I later ended up being happy / thankful I didn't get what I originally wanted

[uneven fulcrum]

Is Palantir new grad remote?

[teal jackal]

I mean I feel like trusting the process of life isn't an option in many cases, especially in this recruiting season

[prime palm]

Mr. Burger can get citadel new grad swe rn and be happy that they didn't sign w Bloomberg or something

[prime palm]

I understand and I agree

You can't do much rn other than just keep grinding (unfortunately)

It's just my opinion that, something good will come from all the effort

What's that saying? Idk something about luck and preparation

@tardy geode hopefully everything ends up working out smoothly Mr. Burger

[west pagoda]

ngl this is a lot about your reactions/perspectives

I went into lowkey depression after I got big tech offer (before all these layoffs news), but surprisingly I am still okay now after all the shit

[prime palm]

Oh you're still around hachi

[uneven fulcrum]

You'll be going to NYC, right?

[twilit wasp]

where are you based?

[uneven fulcrum]

Me too, shit scared to move there lol

[twilit wasp]

is it because it's a big city?

im scared of moving to london for work in sept as well haha

[prime palm]

Where you originally from

[uneven fulcrum]

Yes and expensive af

[twilit wasp]

ahaha i can related, i think rent will eat £1k and bills+food+taxes will eat another £2k of my monthly salary

might end up with barely anything ...

[timber rock]

you're graduating into the top 10%.. relax

[uneven fulcrum]

Yeah it is

[teal jackal]

man life for the young throughout the global north sounds unprecedentedly tough

[crude saffron]

Brooklyn isn’t much cheaper than Manhattan lol

Nj is good for money saving yea

[uneven fulcrum]

Yeah, that's why thinking of NJ

[nocturne oriole]

Lol have fun with no friends wanting to visit u from nyc

Just get roomie u bums

[uneven fulcrum]

Roomie + NJ, will allow me to do the savings I need

[whole roost]

copium overdose, sorry man

[nocturne oriole]

My mindset in a no roomie HCOL area was that im ok not aggressively saving my early career because i like it and by year 2 ur salary goes up to make saving much easier

[prime palm]

Ur intl??!!

Get out of my country

/s I'm also intl

Aren't you already in uhh

Boston bc of school?

Did you fly home after grad?

[tawdry skiff]

[teal jackal]

I agree sadly

but just a best case hypothetical

[main sinew]

Did anyone write JP Morgan SEP OA ??

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnEedA0DFMD/

[tardy geode]

yeah ig , maybe something good is waiting for me .

[tardy geode]

[foggy perch]

Wtf Brooklyn listing I've seen are way cheaper than Manhattan

Maybe Brooklyn is manhattan price if you go for williamsburg

[crude saffron]

Where were u looking

[foggy perch]

I've looked at Bushwick

Which seems pretty cheap compared to much of Manhattan

I've also looked at general Brooklyn searches which seems to be better priced

[crude saffron]

Ic I was mainly looking at prospect heights

[fervent fern]

anyone knows how long after applying does flexport send an OA?

[foggy perch]

But also even with similar prices, I feel like manhattan apartments are shitholes in comparison

Super small with questionable amenities

[fervent fern]

did they ask lc hards?

[chilly burrow]

For interview ya

[foggy perch]

Nah roommates suck

Living alone is peak freedom and happiness

[neon perch]

JP isn’t sponsoring

[crystal hollow]

alphabet city and east broadway/chinatown still have some cheap places

[late kestrel]

but forced friend from day 1

[crystal hollow]

ridgewood is the correct answer though

[grizzled bronze]

Once these layoffs are done, more headcount for new grads incoming

[twilit wasp]

will it be for new grads or in general (any level) ?

[grizzled bronze]

My crystal ball only tells me on new grad roles

[west egret]

you have me though 👉 👈

[late kestrel]

when do u start?

[west egret]

Mid June

[foggy perch]

Idk since I didn't closely look bc commute looked awful

I just know lower numbers was what I saw

My commute limit is like 15 minutes

[late kestrel]

ok then youll have a month and a half before me

[foggy perch]

Dang you folk start ages from now

I'm start in a few weeks

[timber rock]

clearly they are firing people so they can uhhh replace them all with new grad shitters

[west egret]

I graduate in late April. I didn't want to sit around doing nothing for too long. lol

[foggy perch]

You doing pre training?

[west egret]

where at? 👀

[foggy perch]

Nyc

[west egret]

are you BB too?

[foggy perch]

Ye

[late kestrel]

well yeah i graduate in may

[foggy perch]

No chance in hell I'd do nj office

[west egret]

no to pre-training

[foggy perch]

Wack

I would've assumed training classes were filled up by the time tou got offer

[west egret]

oh just checked your user name lol

i recognize it from BB server now

[west egret]

I got mine in late October

[foggy perch]

Obviously I'm the only person allowed to have a default pfp

I'm just too cool for a pfp

[late kestrel]

too many ppl with the damn grey default pfp someone gotta change

u and @green pendant

[foggy perch]

smh I've been default pfp for much longer than he has

[late kestrel]

yeah but it throws me off

[foggy perch]

skill issue

obviously if the opinions given are good

it's clearly me

obviously we're the only ones with non-rescinded offers

[west egret]

I got a phone call from NYC 2 days ago

scared the shit out of me

Thankfully it was just spam call

[foggy perch]

i'm glad to be starting super soon so instead of worrying about rescinding

I can worry about being fired

[whole roost]

I doubt bbg will rescind

[late kestrel]

as long as no one posts it in #server-links

[whole roost]

they seem fairly recession-proof due to the nature of their service(s)

But I'm just an unemployed ng what do I know

[foggy perch]

prisoner's dilemma, one day someone's gonna pull the trigger

[late kestrel]

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural

[west egret]

“Is BB full?”
“Nah. Trust me bro.” - NG who hasn’t started yet

[devout plume]

anyone else just get rugged by palantir

[green pendant]

I'll change my picture to jar jar Binks for 2 years if I get an offer

[cerulean sandal]

wdym

[late kestrel]

damn two years

thats commitment

[green pendant]

I'll do three if the job pays 6 figures or more

I'll draw a fan art of jar jar Binks making out with Mario and put that as my picture if the job provides relocation assistance

[grizzled bronze]

Deal, I'll send over the offer letter for your unpaid internship (once ChatGPT starts loading again)

[devout plume]

got a broken link to a karat interview then got told all their new grad positions are now filled when i asked for another

pulled the rug out on my ass

[green pendant]

do you sponsor, good sir/ma'am

[livid yew]

Nope salary is $99,999

[vestal needle]

For those that had start date delayed by Amazon from Spring to Summer, I heard that you guys got one month pay as severance. If you take the severance, would you be required to join them? Or do you get severance regardless if you join them or not?

[ivory stratus]

anybody in here own/drive a model 3?'

[teal jackal]

nope

planning on buying a bmw m240i xdrive as a celebration gift for myself if i hit SE2

[daring gazelle]

You meant to post this in the full time channel?

[tardy geode]

my whole LinkedIn feed is Amazon

[livid yew]

Mine is just sponsored posts wtf

How do I get real posts

@tardy geode

[tardy geode]

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

bruh

[timber rock]

Juice isn't worth the squeeze

[tardy geode]

golang is the new shiz

yeah i am learning it

liking it so far

[young peak]

Sup losers

[tardy geode]

hey yogi

[young peak]

Your boi is back

Ey bud

Trying not to get laid off

Got a decent rating so bing chillin

Lazy day in Seattle

[tardy geode]

we praying for you brother

[young peak]

[tardy geode]

is the payments org wiped off or somethin?

at amzn

many of my friends got laid off they were in that org

[young peak]

Yikes

Just know guys

The economy gets better

But we'll remember those that laid folk off at roughest times

[pine topaz]

can i just code for the rest of my lief without any financial worries

[tardy geode]

it might take an year to get better or maybe bounces back in a few months . no one knows 😦

[green pendant]

Freelance?

Idk why it pays like shit though

[tardy geode]

will dec 2023 be safe? what do you guys think?

[pine topaz]

the pay

[green pendant]

Safe as in? The economy won't bounce back to earlier levels in <1 year that's for sure

It might get more stable though

[teal jackal]

I will be buying a car if I make it to SWE2
I decided that's when I'm gonna treat myself to a car
perfect timing to save up and buy my realistic dream car
$55k on a new bmw m240i xdrive
equipped with Mineral white metallic paint, Beige synthetic leather, active cruise control, parking assist, performance cooling package

[tardy geode]

safe as in recruiting picks up like old times

[pine topaz]

uhh i dont see that happening soon tbh

unemployment rate is still low now

[tardy geode]

not even dec 2023?

[pine topaz]

a lot of room to do more layoffs

[tardy geode]

i see

[pine topaz]

i dont hold a crystal ball, but these things usualy take time

[teal jackal]

I like the m240i xdrive a lot, the all wheel drive system makes for superior traction and allows the car to make better use of all its horsepower

[pine topaz]

i dont see us going to a boom cycle this year

[teal jackal]

rear wheel drive, too much horsepower lost at the wheel to wheelspin

hi yakhuna

oh wait youre not the real yakhuna

[pine topaz]

dude i was typing out sentences

[livid yew]

What

[pine topaz]

that should be an idnicator

that im not the real yahkuna

[teal jackal]

yogi survived?

nice

nate did u already gratudate in december?

nice

i wish i could start early

my company didnt let me start early because i have one class left

i hope u have fun

im so bored waiting to start working lol

im trying to make better use of my time

i am just working on learning computer graphics in my free time

and im having a hard time motivating myself

man ive only learned about orthographic projection all day

this is such a bruh moment

im not that good even if im trying

im still gaming and doing fuck all most my day

tbh maybe it's cuz I'm young and broke but I have jack shit to do with all my free time

same

I feel like you'll get into a more productive mojo in life once you start work

me too

[young peak]

I can safely freelance getting paid the same hourly as my TC at Google

It's just that I'm international so it's illegal

[young peak]

Just one cornerstone to help keep everything else in check. Once you got that, everything else is easier to fall into place

[teal jackal]

I'm planning on learning Source engine dev and hosting/managing CS:GO community servers,
one of my favorite community servers is looking for volunteer devs and IT professionals, and I'm interested in applying

I know a lot of people think that "I've had enough coding" after work, which is valid and how normal people think

[young peak]

Eh if it's something you like to do that's totally fine

I have a pet project I scratch at on the weekends

[teal jackal]

but probably being an active software engineer would make me more motivated to learn cs:go community modding and be willing to take on an IT and dev role for my favorite CS:GO community server

cs:go zombie escape

[young peak]

Physical books is the way I combat that

Also bodybuilding

Lmk what you like, I read tons

3 bs?

[tawdry skiff]

fanfics?

[teal jackal]

I have a good friend who mostly reads non-fiction related to philosophy and lifestyle coaching

[young peak]

Nice! I'm doing like a hypertrophy workout plus occasional Muay Thai

[teal jackal]

he says that's the only type of book he's truly interested in

[young peak]

Cursed Prince series or Vicious by Schwab

[young peak]

I had fazes like that too. It really dawned on me that it doesn't matter what my philosophy in life is. I just need to live it, instead of pondering on it

That's kinda when I made the switch to more fun, interesting fictional stuff

Before that I had read everything from Aristotle, Plato to Descartes

[lone rapids]

Why does amazon not rescind all new grad offer and same for Microsoft

[teal jackal]

If you're not living life or confused with it, reading about it is useful

[teal jackal]

do you want them to?

or just looking to expand your horizons

[young peak]

They fired HR so no one there to even send a rescinded offer letter lmao

[teal jackal]

[lone rapids]

Cuz they are firing senior mid level people right now and new grad is gonna cost them to train them. So why this move

[teal jackal]

hi starlust

whats up

its been a while since ive seen u

[young peak]

Everyone's popping up on the server after Zon layoffs lol

I'm just here for support

[lone rapids]

I went to linkedin for few seconds rn and it is a bloodbath rn. Even aws getting removed

[green pendant]

those are exceptions my friend

freelancing doesn't pay beginners much

if anything at all

[young peak]

yeah become that exception my friend. I started from 1$ contracts

[lone rapids]

Where do you freelance @silent reef

[teal jackal]

gedeon left for good

[young peak]

Upwork and Pangea

[teal jackal]

My recruiter said gedeon is finished

[green pendant]

I am your recruiter

[lone rapids]

Ill start freelancing honestly at this point in time

[teal jackal]

im happy for gedeon that he left for good

[green pendant]

I offered a library free tech services once it was fun lol

[teal jackal]

im only here because im terminally addicted to discord

[green pendant]

I am incredibly surprised msft is honoring new grad offers tbh

should be interesting to see if it stays that way