2023_grads

[peak ferry]

Good ‘ol American freedom dollarydoos what else?

[livid yew]

[meager lance]

🦅

[outer radish]

USD

def not the monopoly cad money thas fo sho

[frank pumice]

Does anyone know where to find new grad job applications? Is there a list of something? Coderquad doesn't seem to be active anymore

[teal jackal]

id say making 150k TC is never impossible but it's kinda reached a point where you have to get exceptionally lucky fori t

[teal jackal]

coderquad is dead as hell now, not a single soul posted an "add snap" pull request to the status updates

[frank pumice]

Is there another list?

[teal jackal]

yeah, snap up apprentice program

not sure if its still open

[frank pumice]

didn't snapchat just do a bunch of layoffs lmao

not safe

[teal jackal]

I feel like the main people who kept coderquad's repo alive lost too much morale and lost motivation to update it

who knows if snap is even hiring anyone for the snap up program

[frank pumice]

the snap up thing is still there, found it

[teal jackal]

they might be just testing the waters and collecting applicants

[frank pumice]

am i allowed to post links here?

[teal jackal]

try

[frank pumice]

https://wd1.myworkdaysite.com/recruiting/snapchat/snap/job/Los-Angeles-California/XMLNAME-2023-Software-Engineer--Snap-Up-Apprentice_R0029712-1

@grim ore

that's very true, but there stock has been dropping way more than others

i will apply for the memes

[teal jackal]

I applied for the sake of applying

[outer radish]

fuck

[west egret]

150k Zimbabwe dollars very achievable

[west egret]

Luck is an issue with everything in life. With recruiting, we just give ourselves more chances by mass applying to hundreds of companies.

[fossil jewel]

i mean at this point settle for less and job hop

[west egret]

Being open to move to a diff city and not limiting to remote only makes it a little easier.

[outer radish]

[fossil jewel]

yeah my options were nyc only tbh

[outer radish]

yeah thats my strat rn

but ngl checking levels.fyi every once in awhile really got me feeling the fomo

[fossil jewel]

eh levels can get crazy for non-entry level bc people nego

and exp varies

[west egret]

🙏 for you bro. If you get something to hold you over for a year, I can refer whenever they let me.

[outer radish]

sheesh preciate that bigggg time man 🙏

def boutta grind the shit outta startup then pull up to wherever by 2024

[fossil jewel]

like 150k is nice but we saw how many did layoffs

[west egret]

Yeah I think BB offers went up to 215k. I’m a decent amount lower.

[fossil jewel]

entry levels are usually first to go too

[peak ferry]

I know ngs with sick offers that got laid off. Honesty I’m employed rn but it gives me huge anxiety

[fossil jewel]

yeah everyone's on edge

[peak ferry]

Eh surprisingly I’ve seen up and down the ranks. It’s just harder for jrs to get another job

[fossil jewel]

recruiters first

[west egret]

I haven’t LCed in 2.5 months. I’ll cry if BB rescinds.

[fossil jewel]

yeah i havent LC'd except like one or two questions after my BB VO

im glad i had some back up

[west egret]

I remember first time I saw BB in this server…I literally thought it stood for BlackBerry

[sonic coral]

Yeah big tech layoffs tend to be indiscriminant

Entire teams get axed

[fossil jewel]

nokia better

[timber rock]

someone got 300k from bb here

[peak ferry]

I knew where it was and I still thought it was blackberry rofl

[sonic coral]

Above 300k

[peak ferry]

At my place it wasn’t even teams just everyone up and down that had not great perf reviews

[fossil jewel]

some cracked mf i aspire to be

[west egret]

That was most likely for senior

No way NG at BB is getting 300k

[fossil jewel]

smart move

[sonic coral]

Nah he did

He was in hrt process at the time

[fossil jewel]

think the person had a quant offer or smth

yeahh

[sonic coral]

Used that for leverage

[peak ferry]

trading offers? Lol

[fossil jewel]

hrt

[sonic coral]

Failed hrt final and still got the leverage lmao

[autumn ridge]

Yeah apperently BB will nego super high if you have HFT offers or in process but that's the exception

[fossil jewel]

they knew

mike bloomberg himself knew

[peak ferry]

market forces work both ways

[sonic coral]

This was last cycle so things were a lil diff

They got like 250k+ recurring, 300k+ first year iirc

[fossil jewel]

[peak ferry]

250 recurring 👀

[timber rock]

Nah it was ng and yeah he had an offer at cit for 350k

[west egret]

Yeah from what I heard, the max you could negotiate was 215k this year with BB

[teal jackal]

tbh BB for 300k is an amazing deal over 350k at citadel

citadel wlb and culture kicks peoples asses

[fossil jewel]

WLB yeah

[peak ferry]

bonus based recurring numbers are rough tho, industry can take a shit at any time

[west egret]

It sounds insane though. Because that’s literally more than what seniors get paid.

[autumn ridge]

yeah that sounds right but just for first year they will go up to 30k sign on

[teal jackal]

guy got lowballed even for citadel standards

[autumn ridge]

and 30k bonus

reccuring is 185k

[peak ferry]

not true ur just hearing negod and high band offers lol

[fossil jewel]

thats still crazy high

[sonic coral]

Lol I’m glad my nego was for base at G

[timber rock]

I'd prob pick cit even at those numbers for the clout

[west egret]

Yeah I think I’ll be at 175 recurring

[timber rock]

But yeah 300k at bb is insane

[autumn ridge]

Yeah mine is at 185k plus 15k additional sign on

[west egret]

But I had no bigger offers to negotiate

[autumn ridge]

so 25k sign on total

[fossil jewel]

i'd be happy with bbg's lowest base tbh

[autumn ridge]

210k first year 185k recur

[peak ferry]

honestly numbers are wild, cuz even now I don’t spend anywhere close to my base. these 100k+ salaries are actually v comfy even if number smaller than whatever FAANG trading comps people post here

[sonic coral]

Bro facts

[autumn ridge]

Yeah i took both

[west egret]

Yeah honestly I’m not sweating the additional 10k

[sonic coral]

I’m saving a shitload even with 2k rent

[west egret]

After taxes, it’s not that big of a deal

[autumn ridge]

Yeah

[fossil jewel]

i think my only fomo with bbg rn is that they have the most cracked ng class atm

would've been fun

[west egret]

@grim ore you took BB too right? Pretty sure I saw you in the server.

[autumn ridge]

I wonder how many people they hired

[fossil jewel]

im in the bbg server for the vibes

[sonic coral]

I’m still verified FT in amazon server

[west egret]

I’m gonna have major imposter syndrome being in cohorts with mostly Meta interns from t10 schools. lol

[jovial latch]

I'm having imposter syndrome by not having a fuckin job

[fossil jewel]

there's also zucked ppl at jpmc im gonna get the same impostor syndrome

[autumn ridge]

my exp doesn't really make a difference people are dumb and smart from everywhere

[jovial latch]

People out here boasting bout 150k+ salaries Jesus Christ

[fossil jewel]

should've applied to bbg last year for the internship

[west egret]

Yeah I wouldn’t trust Meta or Zon rn if they gave me an offer lol

[peak ferry]

well there’s a diff but like not as stark as you might expect. Bell curves have a fair amount of overlap

[fossil jewel]

hang in there homie

this market does not reflect your skills

[rustic vessel]

There's still hope since companies are still reaching out

[west egret]

I applied for internship and got rejected. But it was very prompt.

[teal jackal]

honestly companies that will rescind later are going to screw so many people over

if theyre gonna rescind do it asap

[autumn ridge]

I think it goes both ways obviously someone from T10 worked harder in highschool and didn't get a 2.2 GPA like me. But the flip side I think you have to work harder to break in from shittier schools on average

[fossil jewel]

thing is, they dont even know

[autumn ridge]

It's still a ton of RNG I'm just saying on average

[teal jackal]

im pretty excited to start at my job, not so excited to move to seattle

[fossil jewel]

waiting for the day i apply to google or any big tech and they dont ghost

[timber rock]

rescinding is a big deal and the companies don't want to do it until its absolutely necessary

[teal jackal]

by that point the recruiters will be coming to you

[timber rock]

it's not like they wait on purpose to fuck people over lol

[teal jackal]

it just really sucks that so many companies rescind at the last second

all im saying

[autumn ridge]

That's still great also means you did good in interview

[teal jackal]

i get the paranoia now

[autumn ridge]

apperrently

[fossil jewel]

yeah only the high high level CEO's know

[autumn ridge]

I got the lowball offer lol 155->17k bonus originally

[west egret]

Same but 3k less

Won't be able to afford that lambo now

[autumn ridge]

no urus

[teal jackal]

lowest blommberg pays is like 170k which is still quite nice

[sonic coral]

This is way more than solid imo lol

[west egret]

@grim ore btw you'll be NYC I assume(not Princeton)?

[sonic coral]

Def go BB over AWS in this economy

[fossil jewel]

if bbg lays off there's big trouble

[sonic coral]

AWS is less base I think, it’s like 142k right

Yeah true, you have to pay it back if you leave within a year tho

[fossil jewel]

pretax too

[west egret]

Yeah I'm planning to park down at BB for 2 years and just enjoy NYC for a bit.

[fossil jewel]

lmk if u need some recs

food wise or places

[west egret]

I'll hit you up in a 5 months or so

[tardy geode]

GS have given rto to many interns

[green pendant]

just got flexport phone(final?) adfter hackerrank reject lmao

[grizzled bronze]

I remember when Amazon used to be the safest option

[green pendant]

same wish I got an offer an stopped being just vibes

[fossil jewel]

i got rejected after vo, i just joined the server for the fun of it

[green pendant]

oof yeah BB server is vibes

especially during the wc it was fun

stark contrast to the doomsday vibes on the amazon server

bb and meta both have great servers no cap

[livid yew]

just dont leave

[fossil jewel]

yeah they got lore now that i will not expose

[livid yew]

rejects suck

I got 5 resume rejects today

[grizzled bronze]

Sorry man, it's not you it's just a shitty market right now. Hang in there buddy!

[sonic coral]

Pip tho

[sonic coral]

Zon server lore pretty wild too lmao

[foggy perch]

Gib food recommendations for lic (and chinatown and midtown) plz

[livid yew]

Id rather take pip and sev over resign dude

[livid yew]

[grizzled bronze]

Rejection is just a temporary setback. Keep pushing forward and don't let it discourage you. Your determination and hard work will pay off in the end. Remember, success is not final, failure is not fatal: It is the courage to continue that counts.

[sonic coral]

What kinda food lmao

[deep summit]

anyone do CTO round @ hive ai recently? like in the new year?

[sonic coral]

If you’re in LIC tho, you’ve got pretty easy access to Astoria which has an amazing amount of great cheap food options

[foggy perch]

🤷 I enjoy most food except Thai, Indian, and vegan

What are the iconic food places would be nice

[west egret]

Not a fan of spicy?

[fossil jewel]

i like vanessa's dumplings in chinatown

there's an actual really good vegan/vegetarian place in chinatown that i really liked too

[sonic coral]

I mean you should explore, there’s so many hidden gems all over

Most of the “iconic / famous” places are overpriced imo

[foggy perch]

Nah I enjoy spicy food a lot

I dislike Thai food because it's too sweet to me

For Indian food I'm not a big fan of chicken or rice

[fossil jewel]

honestly chinatown has so many hidden gems, just make sure to carry cash lol

[foggy perch]

And I really dislike some of the herbalness

Lastly for vegan I just really like eating meat dishes

[sonic coral]

You should go to ktown if you like kbbq or Korean fried chicken, chinatown XO is nice

[west egret]

I thought you were Chinese?

[foggy perch]

I noticed people seemed to like Tai pan bakery

[sonic coral]

In the EV I really like electric burrito if you like Mexican

[green pendant]

thank you chatgpt

[teal jackal]

I'm chinese and my least favorite cuisine is consistently chinese cuisine

[west egret]

I mean it was more so at the rice part lol

[fossil jewel]

cant go wrong with halal foods

[foggy perch]

One caveat for chicken is I enjoy fried chicken

I think non fried chicken tastes awful usually

I stand by my rice take tho

I think rice is just filler

I'd rather eat more of a meat dish

[sonic coral]

Go to bbq chicken in ktown

[foggy perch]

Than fill up on rice

[foggy perch]

That's a chain right

I think I've been to it in boston

[sonic coral]

Maybe? It’s really good tho

[fossil jewel]

about that place

the first time i went it was such a miss

the chicken was not it

it can be a hit or miss but im willing to give it another shot

[sonic coral]

They have some flavors that are meh

[fossil jewel]

i had the soy garlic

the flavor was good but the chicken itself wasnt

[sonic coral]

Honey garlic is pretty good

[fossil jewel]

its well sauced

yeah im gonna give it another shot when im in the city again

dave's hot chicken is actually good

they opened in bay ridge

[teal jackal]

I actually like rice

I just don't like a lot of things about chinese food

I don't like dumplings

probably one of my least favorite foods

[foggy perch]

I think normal dumplings suck

I like soup dumplings and shengjianbao tho

[teal jackal]

I think I have a mid opinion on both

anyways
Two options:
Burger and fries vs dumplings, even the soup dumplings

I'm taking the burger

90% of the time

occasionally I'll take the dumplings just to spice things up

[livid yew]

burger always great choice

[sonic coral]

What’s your favorite hot pot on 8th Ave

[fossil jewel]

99 favor taste

[sonic coral]

Ey that was the first one I went to with my friends lol

[ivory dirge]

Because they work for mindgeek the parent company of pornhub. L3 pays $140k base so it’s like pretty good place to work at

[fossil jewel]

same, but it was in chinatown

[ivory dirge]

Lmao

[livid yew]

PH SWE

[fossil jewel]

because i had some queens friends commuting

[ivory dirge]

Ngl I interviewed with them for mindgeek that is

[livid yew]

hot pot is something I tried for the 1st time after moving to philly lol

good stuff

[ivory dirge]

Behavioural interview was what you expected

[sonic coral]

Yeah I had a queens friend that joined us and dude commuted like 1.5hrs to us lmao

[livid yew]

did they film it?

[ivory dirge]

Yeah

[livid yew]

[ivory dirge]

For data collection purposes

[grizzled bronze]

You just replied to a post from September

[ivory dirge]

I mean I’m an swe there rn

I can refer anyone there just lemme know

[grizzled bronze]

Oh nice, I thought their pay was low

Are you in Canada or US?

[ivory dirge]

Joke bruh

[fossil jewel]

[exotic lintel]

U answered a question from 4 months ago ?

Smh

[grizzled bronze]

https://media.glassdoor.com/l/92/c0/69/c4/10-years-recognition-wall.jpg

[teal jackal]

funny

i guess the whole culture at mindgeek as an actual company tries its absolute hardest to drown out the fact that they make porn sites

[exotic lintel]

"No problem MindGeek, I am the one who have to thank you instead"

[green pendant]

Hold up why does flexport have a final directly after the OA

Is this a scam

[exotic lintel]

I wonder do porn stars come to their office for Weekly Meeting ...

[ivory dirge]

that's normal

not a scam

/srs

[green pendant]

Are they about to ask me for 700$ just to interview me

[ivory dirge]

no

[teal jackal]

no it's normal to go from OA to final

[green pendant]

Because I've had a company do that and it sucked

[ivory dirge]

😂 i bet one of their perks

[green pendant]

I failed the interview and they didn't give me back my 700$

[teal jackal]

some companies realize that having a screening interview and multiple long onsites is stupid

[ivory dirge]

google offers free food

mindgeek offers free ph premium

[green pendant]

Google food is shit

Meta food ftw

[teal jackal]

most reasonable companies arent gonna charge a cent for interviewing

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural

[ivory dirge]

bruh let me get into google first. don't turn me off of it

[teal jackal]

https://www.mindgeek.com/about/
Man mindgeek is funny as fuck, zero mention of porn whatsoever here

[green pendant]

Ik ik I was naive and got scammed

[green pendant]

How long/difficult is the final then

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[green pendant]

Listen Google food may be shit but the pay is so good you get to eat at Michelin star restaurants everyday

Not that Michelin star food is necessarily always good

[foggy perch]

Meanwhile at least google folks have jobs

[green pendant]

Lmao fair

[ivory dirge]

https://www.mindgeek.com/careers/?gh_jid=6470770002

[green pendant]

No I meant the pay is good enough for it

The food is bad I know

[ivory dirge]

how is google food shit? have you worked there to attest to this?

just curious

[green pendant]

Got snuck into the office

[ivory dirge]

because i see all those videos with all that food

[green pendant]

There's only a few places where they badge

[ivory dirge]

wait but like don't they have global cuisine?

[teal jackal]

idk i never interviewed im just saying taht a lot of companies skip doing interviews between OA and final

[ivory dirge]

i mean you can't really complan

it's free food

[green pendant]

Yeah that'd be good actually tbh

More rounds of interviews don't make the process better

[ivory dirge]

wouldn't they make the process worse?

imo amazon has the best interview process for new grad

if you get a perfect score on the OAs that is

[green pendant]

30 minutes of code review

[ivory dirge]

only one interview

[green pendant]

The dream

If only they didn't lay you off 6 months later

[crystal delta]

what's format of flexport final ?

[green pendant]

LinkedIn tramp stamp nice

[teal jackal]

The problem with having 6 rounds of interviews for a new grad process is that it becomes a hazing ritual

one technical and one behavioral is in all honesty a lot of information and enough to work with when it comes to making a decision

[ivory dirge]

i agree

[teal jackal]

but having a shit ton of interview rounds gives the company the ability to thin out the crowd when too many people are qualified

Palantir is evil

Fuck them

[ivory dirge]

well that's just like more desirable companies to work at

can make the rules

most people would agree palantir new grad is better than amazon new grad

[teal jackal]

because even a perfect candidate is more likely than not gonna get weeded out if the interview process is like 6 rounds

[jovial latch]

Anything more than 3 rounds is stupid
The big ass fancy companies can do whatever they want
What I hate is small companies acting like they're hot shit

[teal jackal]

^

I find though that most local companies I have experience with stay in their lane

I have decent opinions on local and less prestigious employers since usually they know they're not gonna win the cream of the crop talent over for the money and prestige

[green pendant]

Imagine being a small company asking for code samples + behavioral + take home + another take home + behavioral about take home + technical + technical + behavioral

[teal jackal]

not saying I'm hot shit

but I do believe that my qualifications are worth at least 100k cash for a new grad

[green pendant]

I'm in the middle of this and every day I think of killing myself

[teal jackal]

F

are u that down bad

[ivory dirge]

chick fil a cough cough

[teal jackal]

However smaller companies value behavioral a lot more than bigger companies
My relative strength is the technical since I'm an autist with comorbid adhd

[jovial latch]

I'm definitely worth at least 100k I got a master's degree and like 4 internships
But as you said, job market this year ain't a reflection of my skills

[teal jackal]

for sure you definitely deserve 100k cash a year at least

[ivory dirge]

idk if it's just me, but i got a leetcode hard on the OA for chick fil a. then interview went really well i even got my interviewer's contact, but just got ghosted for an internship

[teal jackal]

those are strong qualificaitons

[ivory dirge]

but idk if i just got unlucky or that's the norm

[grizzled bronze]

Nah ChickFilA is good

[teal jackal]

if you just got here though then it's a matter of being late to apply

to a lot of places

[ivory dirge]

i think i was too late to apply

[jovial latch]

But given the way things are going I'll probably be stuck with some crappy 80k mostly on site offer 🙃

[ivory dirge]

i applied like mid november

but still

it was ruthless

[teal jackal]

good luck mate

[ivory dirge]

to have gone through the entire interview process

[teal jackal]

keep the ambition

[ivory dirge]

thought i did really well

and then just get ghosted

[jovial latch]

I applied to a buncha shit in October/November

Latd

[teal jackal]

i think you'll be too bummed out to settle, wherever you end up

[jovial latch]

I think about it every day

[teal jackal]

just keep staying bummed out and you can convert that into motivational energy

people say that the mentality is unhealthy(it is) but it's helped me stay motivated

so i keep it

[jovial latch]

My mood the last couple months has been at it's worst

I've been constantly irritated and angry towards myself and other people that got jobs tbh
Imposter syndrome is really getting to me

[livid yew]

ayo

you ok

if you are in serious danger, please get off discord and Call 988

[green pendant]

I am I am thank you for asking

I'm hanging in there for now

[ivory dirge]

its not you it's the market rn

but things will get better within a year or two

like it's pretty dogshit but not the end of the world

[teal jackal]

the most tempting thing to do when the going is rough is to quit

but that would be letting the system win

so it can not be an option

[grizzled bronze]

Remember, you can take a break from recruiting too or even take any other job like cashier if you really need the money, no shame in doing that

You can always come return once the market is better

[fossil jewel]

can do freelance work or tutoring as well

[plain tinsel]

The market for stud engineers is super aggressive especially if you are proficient in C++ and Python.

[livid yew]

C++

[whole berry]

ya the market for it is decent rn

[livid yew]

I have no intention of learning C++ tbh

[plain tinsel]

Many of my clients are hiring aggressively and are paying top dollar. For Python and C++ engineers. If anyone is interested message me for more details.

[livid yew]

[jovial latch]

They interested in new grads? Lol

[plain tinsel]

Yes!

[fossil jewel]

see pee pee

[livid yew]

[jovial latch]

Dm'd

[rain patio]

will it ever get better or is this the new standard for cs jobs

[whole berry]

could be

[plush lily]

The thing is some allow them to act like that. If we all call bullshit on them they would know their place

[jovial latch]

Not in this job market

🙃

I need a job

Yep we're seeing the correction of that now, and naturally us 2023 grads are being punished for the idiocy of corporate execs

As is nature

Lol

[placid sail]

Dmed

[fossil jewel]

[pure mauve]

Did anyone do the flexport OA and get a phone? Not sure if I should try since they laying off a shit ton

[green pendant]

yeah did OA on tuesday and got invited to an interview today

[pure mauve]

thanks!

[pure mauve]

recruiter or technical?

[green pendant]

i really don't know. it's a final but before the final the recruiter wants to set up a 15 minute call. i'll let you know how the call went

might even be rejected after the call

[pure mauve]

yeah keep me updated plz!

[green pendant]

it's on tuesday though so might need some time lol

[rain patio]

has anyone here went through a full apple new grad interview loop, have some questions if you don't mind

[covert fable]

How often do you guys bug your recruiters? I feel they'd get annoyed by me if I ask them questions like please share the interviewer's name.

[next gate]

Any advice on how I can practice for a backend interview? I’m more comfortable in using node.js.

[green pendant]

twice every hour

if I am feeling generous

[covert fable]

not talking about how many times I disappoint my parents

[jovial latch]

anyone get anything or have any knowledge bout siemens?

i literally did not remember wtf i applied to for there but i looked it up just now and it was for some c++ firmware role

[gray dagger]

Response codes, when you would send them and the messages you want to pass. Promises are important too (since JavaScript is single threaded asynchronous programming is a must) and json objects. Maybe routes (never been asked before tho). That’s all I could pretty much think of. Other than standard DSA

[jovial latch]

what do they ask usually for these kinda roles anyway

though it seems like lotta people got rejected from them recently

fuck

[next gate]

Thank you so much. Any website that has coding practices or mock interviews that focus on such things that you may know of?

[gray dagger]

No idea lol, those were from my experience interviewing for backend roles

[livid citrus]

anyone get gecko fde?

curious about the process

randomly got an oa think yestarey

dang like after a technical or literally only the rec call

[plain tinsel]

This should not be a problem. I usually always try to find out at least the interviewer. Some firms are very secretive and don’t share though.

[late pilot]

Anyone has any suggestions on what to check or how to prepare for Bloomberg's system design?

[green pendant]

EM round?

they rarely ask system design

[rain patio]

I noticed that a lot of new grad roles say “0-1 yoe”

[livid yew]

yeah as a new grad you have 0 yoe

[rain patio]

I worked for a startup for 2 years as SDE while I was in college, should I keep that on my resume or remove it

[late kestrel]

why would you remove it

[livid citrus]

you couldve worked there 10 years and it counts as 0 yoe

the 0-1 yoe is so junior engineers who didnt necessarily just graduate can apply

so... leave it on there

[late pilot]

I received an email for new grad that they got rid of their old format and that there is a mandatory system design round now

This round will focus on system design. For this virtual design round, you will be connected with one of our senior engineers for an interactive discussion focused on your technical communication and problem solving skills. It will require you to think about a larger scale software system with multiple components that communicate with each other.

[lethal spoke]

true fact.

[green pendant]

Yo wtf damn

That's new

Is this for NYC new grad?

[late pilot]

Nope, London

[green pendant]

Oh maybe a London specific thing then

[late pilot]

They got rid of the 2 LC interviews and replaced them with one

now the HR round is at the end

[late pilot]

It used to follow a similar format to the US one last year

[green pendant]

Ah I see good luck!

[somber oyster]

Wondering how many people moved phone interview from Flexport 😂

[green pendant]

wdym?

why would they move it?

[somber oyster]

I mean moved next step

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClFNfFcjOiT/
@pulsar mural

[limpid jolt]

same here..lol

[nocturne seal]

should I be holding a backup offer

[jovial latch]

god knows how many more companies are gonna layoff/rescind offers

[buoyant pulsar]

I applied for L59 at MSFT while having almost 1 non-intern YoE in the technologies mentioned in the job description. Thing is, I'm acquiring my BSc CS degree in July. They didn't mention anything regarding a degree for that specific job but I was wondering.. do I stand a chance? haha 😄

[pure mauve]

lol i just realized i forgot to dress up for the vieple video interview

[pure mauve]

depends on when u start my guy

[jolly raptor]

Can someone share Hive Ai application link?

[nocturne seal]

July😬

[grizzled bronze]

No, you already have a solid offer

You got Atlassian, so there's no need to think of another one

[wheat seal]

Yea atlassian is safe

[marsh sand]

Ay passed palantir onsite for swe

Palantir’s super quick w responses

HM tho 💀

[plush lily]

Yeah they usually responde same day

For HM they take a little longer

[marsh sand]

Ahh I see; any tips for HM? I think I did bad on decomp so I think I’ll be asked another decomp

[plush lily]

Prepare behavioral and your weakest technical

[oak patrol]

Is flexport OA auto?

[rain patio]

no

[night marsh]

Gecko Robotics was ROUGH 😭

how tf are you supposed to get a function name without args or a function wrapper

and the object that the function's supposedly stored in isn't readable

Maybe there's something that I'm missing

[livid citrus]

the hackerrank or actual interview?

[night marsh]

Hckerrank

F

TET seemed okay but some of the syntax was unclear

[green pendant]

TET wasn't exactly easy tbh the questions towards the end were kinda ambiguous

[night marsh]

A little bit yeah; the middle was hardest for me.

Also what is Aristocrat Technologies? My LinkedIn's flooded with New Grad postings from them

[green pendant]

did you hear back from them?

[night marsh]

Just took it

[green pendant]

oh okay. A lot of people I know heard back with a reject the day after taking it lol

[night marsh]

Yeah, idk if they're looking for a perfect score lmfao

[dull wyvern]

how do i find job openings for immediate joiners?

[tribal slate]

anyone have tips for palantir learning?

[marsh sand]

No tips; just ask a lot of questions and listen to the interviewer when they explain stuff

Because you’ll be asked to kind of rephrase it

It’s really easy; focus more on preparing for decomp

[steel pumice]

Is Revature a good company to work for? Asking this is a new grad with no professional experience and kinda just shotgunning my resume out there

[night marsh]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/koemre/revature_a_comprehensive_no_bs_review/
This post seems to give an inside opinion on it

[timber rock]

No, it's pretty bad but it's better than nothing for sure

[sonic coral]

Is revature the one with like 10-15k in mandatory “training” or is that a diff one

[timber rock]

I've heard you can get some pretty good experience there but the pay is bad and they do some shady stuff like charging you 20k to quit

[timber rock]

Yeah, if you quit before your contract is up they try to charge you for the training

[livid yew]

Revature resume rejected me

[timber rock]

Overqualified lol

[livid yew]

actually not that far tbh

[timber rock]

less than half my daily commute 😎

[livid yew]

my daily commute is 7min

[timber rock]

mines 40 min walk or 25 min bus depending how I feel

[night marsh]

mine used to be half an hour

[rain patio]

55min MTA

[night marsh]

I mean 15

It would be 1 hour if I went to the SB office

[sonic coral]

With or without transfers

[livid yew]

I can see the office from my apartment

[rain patio]

queens -> brooklyn heights. J -> A

[livid yew]

tough

[sonic coral]

Oof double transfer yeah those are rough

[livid yew]

ALDI has what I want lol

[sonic coral]

Before I moved to the city my commute was SI express bus -> wtc E

[rain patio]

E train 🤢

"its showtime"

[sonic coral]

Honestly E train in the city is fine lol

[livid yew]

tbh I could hop on a train

[sonic coral]

I experienced it in queens tho first time on my way to LGA lol

[livid yew]

but like 15-20min walk vs 7-10 train

[rain patio]

except when it goes local for no reason

[sonic coral]

Crazy how much it changes once you cross the river lmao

[rain patio]

Lmao

[livid yew]

@sonic coral I looked up AmTrak prices to NYC

[sonic coral]

The E train was actually the best part of my SI commute lol

[pure mauve]

tbh prolly should keep backup

[sonic coral]

Was like 3-4 stops from wtc to 14st

Now my commute is only like 5 stops on the L lol

[rain patio]

oh thats not too bad. I'd start around Jamaica (last stop on E train) all the way up to 42nd st Port Authority (worst station)

[rain patio]

I've never been on the L

[sonic coral]

Honestly the duration of the staten commute wasn’t what killed me it was the fact that I had a 10min walk to the stop that was uphill lmao

[rain patio]

lmfao I totally get u dude these stations are brutal

[sonic coral]

Cardio

[gaunt steeple]

So… am I just doing this wrong or are there no new grad positions at all ;-;

I filter job search by entry-level and the results are all like senior positions

[green pendant]

No that is the market right now

Can't help it tbh

[gaunt steeple]

Unlucky

What are other winter 22 grads doing about it? Are they just gonna chill and do personal projects until the market improves or are they just gonna take a mediocre job

[foggy perch]

Probably just applied earlier or rip

[green pendant]

rip tbh

[gaunt steeple]

dam i fucked up huh

[green pendant]

me too

[gaunt steeple]

L

[green pendant]

i just hope this doesn't end up being career suicide tbvh

[gaunt steeple]

Worst case I’m probably just gonna take a temp job

Don’t think it’s that bad

[timber rock]

much better to take any job you can get instead of waiting

[timber rock]

same situation here, it's still soon after the holidays so i'm expecting some more postings soon. but it probably wont be as much as last semester

[green pendant]

thing is the situation wasn't even that bad in September October

should have applied more then

[foggy perch]

I applied back in like August

[green pendant]

I started in July too

But nothing worked out

Problem is even if you started early you'd still need to get lucky

[daring gazelle]

It was bad

Getting a bit better now I think

I ran out of jobs to apply to

Well good ones that is

[green pendant]

People who applied to Bloomberg after me got offers while I am still being ghosted. By sheer luck my phone screen got rescheduled thrice

[daring gazelle]

Why are 4/5 of all the links in the new grad SWE GitHub invalid?

All the new grads jobs gone?

[green pendant]

That GitHub has gone to shit lol

[rain patio]

I'm trying to graduate this summer with 0 internships bruh

Might not anymore

[green pendant]

What makes you say that

[daring gazelle]

Fr I already ran through that list

[daring gazelle]

Back then I apply like 400 no return calls

[prime palm]

Dead list

No maintainers for it

• honestly hardly any apps to add anyways

[daring gazelle]

I just applied like 360 last 2 weeks

5 responded

2 calls out of 5 the rest are assessment

Jobcels fr

[rain patio]

Did u graduate already long thai

[green pendant]

Can I ask which ones these were?

[daring gazelle]

Yes

[rain patio]

best of luck with the process bro

[green pendant]

Part of me wants to leave the US and go back to my home country and take a relatively low paying job just to ride out the recession

At least that way I can take care of my mental health more

And be closer to friends and family

[daring gazelle]

Sorry man I will tell when I am round 2 but I will tell you 1 is Flexport because I am sure I didn’t pass the assessment

[green pendant]

Sure no problem

Dm me once you get to final rounds/finish the process

Thanks

[daring gazelle]

Tbh I applied everywhere

One jobs called back I rechecked it

I didn’t even remember why I apply for it ask for 2+ years

Then I realized why. It posts as entry level, pay entry level but ask 2+ years. I was like “fr that’s stupid” and apply anyway. So now even if I see 1-2 years I apply

[lunar sparrow]

i feel like i fr applied to all of the jobs theres not that many new grad positions

guess i'll just keep grinding interview q's until i become a god

[daring gazelle]

Ngl I think getting a girlfriend is harder so this Job searching thing isn’t that bad at least I know exactly what they want

[teal jackal]

sorry mate but youre kinda fucked rn

not many places are god damn hiring grads anymore

[daring gazelle]

It’s Over

[teal jackal]

process channel doesnt get anywhere near the same kind of volume it used to get

[teal jackal]

1.) feels that getting a relationship is harder, the problem is that where tf do u meet people and how god damn long do u gotta wait and how lucky do u have to be to meet someone and be lucky enough to hit it off with them
2.) jobs are also goofy af because jobs can be arbitrary, they can arbitrarily reject you without any valid reason

[gaunt steeple]

That is such a mood

Pretty sure I applied close to that too, the few low tier jobs that contacted me also ghosting me rn

[daring gazelle]

1. Is very luck based 2) is based of years of experience and tech stacks

[daring gazelle]

That’s just one 1 platform I used other as well

Ngl everything is trash except applying directly to the company website

[teal jackal]

imagine using a job platform

[daring gazelle]

To find posting man

I don’t know every company

[gaunt steeple]

Yea I was gonna say how tf you looking at every company website lol

[teal jackal]

ah true

I use linkedin jobs but even thats a ghost town now

[daring gazelle]

Usually shit like glassdoor is read ass they will post like “junior SWE” quick apply but they google the company career page see no job posting for that I knew that that job posting is shit and the resume go nowhere

[teal jackal]

linkedin isnt so bad

linkedin jobs is accurate at least

[gaunt steeple]

FR i made multiple complaints to LinkedIn like a boomer to stop showing me senior level jobs to me cos apparently there’s not any other

[daring gazelle]

I think sometime the job posted in the platform isn’t even real ones it’s just there to troll me

[teal jackal]

like linkedin wont advertise dead links

most other platforms keep dead links up

[daring gazelle]

I will grind more jobs today

Pray inshallah

[gaunt steeple]

Inshallah brother

[west pagoda]

Ngl relationships and jobs are similar. Luck and skills are big factors. Either you lower your standards or improve yourself to reach your goal levels.

[teal jackal]

inshallah

[west pagoda]

I can imagine there’s def psychos in Bay Area/nyc who hop relationships as much as they hop jobs

[daring gazelle]

Btw some dude I know got me into an interview doing “System Validation Engineering” for a data center in a big tech but through contract in his company

I read the posting it more hardware shit

AMD and stuff

Any advice?

The shell script part of the jobs is fine

But this shit “I2C & SPI interface debugger and protocol analyzer”

Wtf is that?

[late kestrel]

communication protocols

much more CoE stuff

[daring gazelle]

Anyone can help me prep?

[daring gazelle]

Me after watching any American sitcom

[jovial latch]

linkedin is garbage for jobs, the entry level filter does nothing

[livid yew]

I use LinkedIn quite a bit tbh

[teal jackal]

linkedin job board becomes useless once the new grad job pool dries up

though tbh i exclusively used coderquad for new grad

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

I used linkedin quite extensively for my intern search

[teal jackal]

*useless for new grads

[livid yew]

ok so SWE1

SWE1 / New Grad

same thing lol

[jovial latch]

i was expecting return offers from 2 companies i interned at, and neither could give me anything lol
makes you wonder what the fuck any of that was for

[livid yew]

this whole separate New Grad pipeline big dumb tbh

[livid yew]

I wish the list was alpha lol

its all in random order

pisses me off

[jovial latch]

nother day nother rejection nother day of misery lol

[teal jackal]

its so that theres still a way in for new grads into tech

a new grad wont be able to stand its ground against an industry hire

[livid yew]

I never knew about "New Grad" until I was 1YR into tech lol

none of my college professors/advisors told me about "New Grad" or Leetcode

[teal jackal]

honestly i cant imagine how to find a job from a local company

So hard to dig up roles

so hard to find one to that you're qualified for

[livid yew]

I just went on a local website, went to jobs page

and appliued

[jovial latch]

i check 5 different job boards every day there really isnt anything anymore

[livid yew]

my first pass in 2020 was just local places

then FAANG

then big tech

I Settled for less salary and shitty job lmao

[teal jackal]

i see

Tbh finding a local job feels like a totally different ball game

[daring gazelle]

70% of those jobs are scam staffing companies

[livid yew]

yes

[livid yew]

out of college I did not even consider Big Tech

[daring gazelle]

Never had to block more calls than applying on LinkedIn

[teal jackal]

my dad who's accustomed to local tech, was completely culture shocked when I told him about big tech culture

[livid yew]

like I know I am not the right person for Big Tech

[teal jackal]

he had so many preconceived notions about it and was shocked that so many of them were wrong

[livid yew]

its just not my vibe

[teal jackal]

including hiring procedures

my dad was gigacoping about interview processes because I told him that no interviewer for bigger companies gives a shit about programming language trivia

for the longest time my dad was coping saying "but theyre doing it all wrong!"

[livid yew]

yeah your dad and I would get along

[teal jackal]

he sees the light now

[livid yew]

I know lots of trivia tbh

and suck at LC

[daring gazelle]

I get on average 6 “we decided not to move forward” a day

[jovial latch]

my dad seems to have this delusional idea im 'panicking' too much about finding a job

[foggy perch]

Apple and Embedded stuff might just because they're weirdos

[jovial latch]

the idiot works in IT and somehow doesnt understand shits absolutely fucked

[teal jackal]

my dad was like "yeah about time the tech bubble bursted" which I admit he's right about

[daring gazelle]

Guys don’t understand all the requirements shit is just an excuse so they can hide nepotism

[teal jackal]

just sucks that I caught that bad wave

[jovial latch]

well i would have said the bubble could have burst another fuckin year but then again i chose to do a god damn masters

god damn fucking idiot i am

[daring gazelle]

You have to know someone or belong to some group to qualify

[livid yew]

well if China had not released their covid virus, we probably would not be here lamo

[teal jackal]

Another problem with non-standardized hiring processes within stuff like local companies

[teal jackal]

cope harder that's a massive load of bullshit

[jovial latch]

eh

[livid yew]

cock harder?

[jovial latch]

its kinda true, lotta companies overhired in the pandemic

[livid yew]

I unfortunately believe some if it lol

[jovial latch]

and because of corporate mistakes, we're getting punished

[daring gazelle]

Real 200 IQ move by them ngl if was a super power I would have done the same

[livid yew]

yep

[teal jackal]

I believe none of it, the Chinese government informed the WHO in a timely manner about the issue.

anyways

we're going offtopic

I'll shut this convo down so this channel doesn't get too political

[livid yew]

you sound like a CCP supporter., I need to report this

[daring gazelle]

Back to being jobcels

[teal jackal]

I would like to reply to that, but as i committed to, I have ended this discussion and can not state my rebuttal.

[jovial latch]

these job boards need to go to hell

contract work is not full tiem work ffs

[rain patio]

workday needs to go to hell

[daring gazelle]

If Tiktok hire me I will recite the red book line by line ngl

[daring gazelle]

Workday is chill it’s not as bad as others

I have seen way worse

[livid yew]

red book?

what is that

[plush lily]

Tbh companies that have recommendations algorithms seemsl kinda cool

[rain patio]

oh theres so much worse but for the most popular recruitment service why tf cant u just have one workday account with all ur info

[jovial latch]

i think we can all agree icims can fuck off

[daring gazelle]

You are not from a commie country you don’t know that children is handed out a red book to read as a kid well at least I was and I am not even Chinese

[livid yew]

yep

[livid yew]

oh

lmao

yeah no I was born here in the US

[jovial latch]

workday parses my resume fine enough, bonus points for linkedin apply

[livid yew]

as white as they come bro

[livid yew]

I hate having to go back in and edit stuff

I have scripts for GreenHouse and WorkDay

[jovial latch]

ok indeed fuck you, i selected 'remote'

[rain patio]

they could have done so much with that service

[livid yew]

I basic run a python script, and it fills out applications for me

[rain patio]

if it does it better than simplify publish that shit

[livid yew]

I think its in one of my repos idk

[daring gazelle]

I was thinking what if I just make a new email, and then identify as a woman and reapply to all the job postings would I get more responses?

[livid yew]

I send a couple apps every day

takes like 10-15 min lol

[rain patio]

5 apps in 15 mins if I avoid all WorkDay

Greenhouse is the best idgf

[livid yew]

I never fill out the Gender/Race/Veteran stuff

cause like

Its no to everything

[teal jackal]

I don't like affirmative action either but it feels way too desperate and will end up being sketchy in the long run to do that
Though you probably would get more responses

[daring gazelle]

If you are use to it it takes 9 mins because you have every prepared for copy and paste

[livid yew]

the worst is the citizenship stuff lol

[rain patio]

i put in my 2nd copy of my resume when they do lmfaooo

[jovial latch]

yea theres no way they dont look at that info

dont trust em

[livid yew]

like how do they not already know I am a White American

[daring gazelle]

Fr I might ngl

[livid yew]

this is basic info

[night marsh]

Ok yeah they were

just got rejected LOL

[teal jackal]

don't, you're wasting your time because people will see through it at some point

[green pendant]

Same day?? Damn

[livid yew]

these are the best tbh

Greenhouse

[night marsh]

Not even 6 hours

[livid yew]

simple

[jovial latch]

lever is good to

btw btw

[night marsh]

Greenhouse + Lever based

[rain patio]

Exactly greenhouse is amazing

[livid yew]

lever/greenhouse

[rain patio]

Yyp

[night marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[jovial latch]

is citadel even still hiring, cause they gave me a hackerrank

[green pendant]

Did you email them or something?

[teal jackal]

Greenhouse is not good since it doesn't do autofill

[jovial latch]

ima take it and then what get an automated reejctio

[teal jackal]

Lever is GOATED

[night marsh]

Nope

[livid yew]

yes it does

[foggy perch]

Citadel resume screens after oa anyways so who knows

[livid yew]

I just did autofill bro

[rain patio]

SIMPLIFY

[teal jackal]

wait it does? It's never worked for me at least

[daring gazelle]

I am real good don’t worry

[jovial latch]

oh great ill get auto rejected cause they definitely alreayd filled the role

fuck this shit

[daring gazelle]

Omg live saver

[livid yew]

I can dox my name, but yeah

lol

I use Edge, your millage may vary

[teal jackal]

though with the current era of gender identity you could probably say you were born male but identify more with feminity which is why you identify as a woman
but you'll burn out from trying to maintain that lie unless you genuinely identify as such

[night marsh]

For a new grad position, tf are we supposed to say

[livid yew]

wdym

you want a job

say that

[night marsh]

"I expressed sudden interest in wanting a job after graduation"

[rain patio]

LOL

[night marsh]

"Who would've ever thunkd't've

[jovial latch]

i hate those time of questions

[night marsh]

ik, but for a new grad position that's a generic ass question lol

[jovial latch]

its just for hr people on power trips to feed their massive egos

[daring gazelle]

Fr. Burn me out? All I have to do is walk up to my manager and be like “yeah you mind not telling people I am trans because I am afraid they might discriminate me”

[jovial latch]

thats what fucking itnerviews are for

[livid yew]

just write up some BS sentences

[night marsh]

Exactly

[jovial latch]

dont fucking ask me why you want to work here on your base app

[rain patio]

"I have a propensity for food, beverage and shelter"

[night marsh]

Chatgpt time 🙏🏽

[livid yew]

lmao

you guys are so lazy

[daring gazelle]

I have 1 generic response to that

[jovial latch]

i just hate having to deal with bs because hr is a bitch

[livid yew]

I accepted all the bullshit in this world a long, long time ago. and just moved on, submit to the BS

you will be happier

[daring gazelle]

Mans gonna do what a man gonna have to do man

[night marsh]

I'm jking, but fr tho

[livid yew]

need more views

[rain patio]

need to create a copy-paste prompt for the generic
"Why this company"
"What's something you're proud of"

ive been using chatgpt to write this for me

[livid yew]

you dont have any real proud moments?

[rain patio]

i just aks chatgpt to write a story about something I have done in <1 paragraph

copy paste

[livid yew]

I have the easiest answer to that question @rain patio

[daring gazelle]

Based as if they waste their time reading it in the first place

[livid yew]

I just use this, cause it has value

[daring gazelle]

I don’t even have a cover letter

[night marsh]

Because they don't read it most of the time

[livid yew]

being an Eagle Scout is actually something people value lmao

who would have thougt

[livid yew]

oh

well I still try idk

[night marsh]

I mean bringing up eagle scout is good

[livid yew]

yep

Doing production deploys and infrastructure work as an intern was also a proud moment of mine

[teal jackal]

I never submit cover letters

[night marsh]

It's mainly logistics. It isn't like college essays or rich parents where the substance matters. You're applying for a SWE job and how well you write is important, but when hiring fast tech skills are more important

[teal jackal]

honestly deploying code is the most interesting part about interning

[livid yew]

did you not deploy any code

[teal jackal]

I did

[livid yew]

that is like tier 1 lol

[night marsh]

Any place I've submitted a cover letter I've got rejected. Not indicative of cover letters ofc as it's just my experience alone, but def a bit of disillusionment there

[rain patio]

i just write about their company culture, diversity initiatives, and large-scale problems/talent lol

[daring gazelle]

Basically all the same for any Corpo

[teal jackal]

But anyways, the shit I deployed was pretty much for internal use

[livid yew]

oh

[daring gazelle]

Any BlackRock tell them to they follow

[livid yew]

nah I was doing main production product deploys from like 2 weeks in dude

I basically always skip orientation lol

and get to work

[teal jackal]

but I still had to go through creating an AWS account, setting up AWS infra, getting permissions to use other Amazon internal infrastructure, etc

[livid yew]

AWS

[teal jackal]

at Amazon a lot of interns end up doing internal tooling

that's why it's not the same

[daring gazelle]

At this point if I want to know a company culture and diversity stuff I visit BlackRock website instead of the company

[livid yew]

I uhh broke AWS today

[teal jackal]

like even if the team's product is outward facing, many teams still just make their interns do solely internal nice-to-have tools

[livid yew]

I somehow caused the page to just crash several times

[teal jackal]

not actually contribute features to customer facing prod

[livid yew]

Damn

I was doing feature development at my internship for 21/hr

and amazon interns do internal stuff for much more money

crazy world

[teal jackal]

bezos runs a 3 month summer camp for college students lmao

as long as u can leetcode

[livid yew]

might start having one of my Asian friends do my interviews for me

this is joke

[daring gazelle]

Make sure you choose the top 10% East Asian

Dude with glasses

[livid yew]

Bro any is smarter than my Midwest white ass

[daring gazelle]

Negative

Trust me bro

[gaunt steeple]

I’m a girl and I wish that was an actual thing cos if it is it’s not working for me

[daring gazelle]

Have you emphasized that in you application?

[rain patio]

international students are lc demons man

get any of them

[daring gazelle]

Negative

You are mistaken

[livid yew]

I started doing LeetCode 6 months after graduation, never knew about LC in college

[daring gazelle]

I have a lot Asian CS friends

[teal jackal]

tbh full disclaimer that I have no idea how gender and employment actually works
Anyways, seems like a bad idea to lie on your job apps out of desperation

[daring gazelle]

Trust me you only see the good ones

Half doesn’t know how a Hashmap works

[foggy perch]

Meh I think international students are either cracked or rich usually

[rain patio]

international students at fairly decently ranked unis had to overcome a ridiculous amount to get in

[livid yew]

Probably cause midwest school

[green pendant]

I'm neither😞

[daring gazelle]

BlackRock

[teal jackal]

For real, people only think Asian Americans are smart because this country cherry picks the smartest Asians to come here.
Even then, their kids can still end up being total dumbfucks(I am the dumbfuck)

[daring gazelle]

Negative

[livid yew]

I read BlackCock

[night marsh]

All depends; my school's like 25% Indian and around like 40% Asian and I see int'l students and non alike. It's all across the board tbh

[foggy perch]

Rip

[rain patio]

usually both tbh

[daring gazelle]

This

[grizzled bronze]

Ignorance is bliss

[daring gazelle]

Some are real bad

[grizzled bronze]

[gaunt steeple]

Yeahhh I’m kinda iffy on this, like i feel like half the time some old man is gonna be like nah we don’t want girls

[daring gazelle]

I had this Asian dude who I was helping asking me how while loop works

[livid yew]

I mean most people work at midwest companies making like 75K TC

[daring gazelle]

I was like dude

[night marsh]

Like the whole Asian thing is a stereotype. It all happened bc immigration got tight for Asians such that the most educated come abroad in the most vocal country about it. Like there's a shit ton of other Asian people out there, it's just like any other country/continent
I used to feed a ton into m.m. but not anymore

[obtuse night]

Has anyone has finals with Ascend.io?

[teal jackal]

just because the parents were smart doesnt mean the kids will be

[livid yew]

All I remember from college, was all the Asians smoking cigs in the parking lot of the CS building

[rain patio]

@gaunt steeple im urm, ive heard from underrepresented people that it feels harder

people changing their names to white-sounding apparently getting more interviews but idk

[teal jackal]

the Asian kids vape now

[livid yew]

oh

[torpid birch]

High emphasis on education and high status jobs such as engineering, medicine, and law

[livid yew]

this was in like 2017

when JUUL was just becoming a thing

[gaunt steeple]

Ahaha yeah maybe I should try that

[night marsh]

And I say that as an Indian-descent dude born in the US

[foggy perch]

Tbh I wish there were more studies on resume hitrate stuff bc ik white sounding names is proven

I wonder how other factors play in

[daring gazelle]

Vaping is degenerate

[livid yew]

yeah change your name to like, "John"

[livid yew]

[night marsh]

Hollywood wants to know your location

[teal jackal]

I know one Asian family whose Chinese surname is Lin but romanized their legal surname to Lynn when they moved here
Honestly that family is so galaxy brain, there's basically no giveaway that the family is Asian unless you look right at them

[daring gazelle]

No I like my name

[rain patio]

both of my names are hispanic sounding smh

[livid yew]

everyone in my family is/was a smoker

its tough

[rain patio]

how do you make "jose" a white name

[livid yew]

[torpid birch]

Joe

[night marsh]

Hose

[daring gazelle]

How do you make “Thai” a white name?

[night marsh]

Thigh

[teal jackal]

are u Thai

[daring gazelle]

It’s over

[torpid birch]

Jose is literally the Spanish version of Joseph

[teal jackal]

like Thailand thai

[daring gazelle]

No

[teal jackal]

ah I thought u were

[torpid birch]

Thomas

[teal jackal]

Vietnamese then?

[torpid birch]

Just use the same first sound

[night marsh]

ik a few Viet ppl named Thai

[daring gazelle]

It’s like being born in the US and has the last name “America” of course I am not Thai

[torpid birch]

There are Vietnamese people named viet tho

[foggy perch]

I will say I'm glad I got an American first name

[night marsh]

My mentor was Thai American

[torpid birch]

[foggy perch]

And not a Chinese one

[daring gazelle]

First name

[teal jackal]

I got an Anglo name

[daring gazelle]

Yeah

[gaunt steeple]

Maybe Tyler

Lol

Or Tai

[torpid birch]

But yeah easiest way is to just use a completely different name but uses the first sound at least

[teal jackal]

seems like too much work to play mind games with your name just to hide your race

[foggy perch]

In an alternate timeline I would've changed my first name to chad smh

[daring gazelle]

Nah I will keep my name it’s funny

[teal jackal]

I'd rather be discriminated against for my race then go through that shit

[torpid birch]

Tai is sino

[daring gazelle]

I feel real proud

[foggy perch]

Imagine the interview power you have when your name is chad

[teal jackal]

The name Chad is so powerful

[daring gazelle]

All Viet are like 3/4 sino genetically

I love getting discriminated against only if it doesn’t fuck up my livelihood it makes me feel real special

[night marsh]

Rise up above them to assert dominance

[daring gazelle]

All these people are so uninteresting they choose me to talk to

As if anyone would remember them over me

[foggy perch]

I think we need more unethical psychology experiments. I want to get a group of 100 kids. Name half of them chad and half of them mediocre names, and measure their success later in life

[daring gazelle]

Name the other half Adolf

[gaunt steeple]

can you accept my friend req? I’m also a CMU grad :3

[jaunty basalt]

can you accept my friend req? I’m also a CMU grad :3

That’s the most complicated thing I’ve ever seen

[foggy perch]

Smh the cmu degens are multiplying

[gaunt steeple]

huh what did cmu do to you

[thick shell]

Hey everyone,

Fortunate and grateful enough to get new grad software engineering offers from these 2 companies, already signed with Northern Trust but not sure which one to go with. Recently got the Fidelity one. Both are in the finance sector

Company: Northern Trust
Location: Chicago, IL
Year 1 TC: 95k
Recurring TC: 95k
Breakdown: 90k Base, 5k Annual Bonus
Benefits: Standard Benefits

Company: Fidelity
Location: Durham, NC
Year 1 TC: 98k
Recurring TC: 86.4k
Breakdown: 80k Base, 8% Annual Bonus, 7.5k Sign On Bonus , 5k Relocation Stipend
Benefits: Standard Benefits

I’m kinda nervous about reneging but want to see what y’all think is the best course of action to take.

Mainly just concerned with which one looks better on the resume to get interviews from FAANG Big N, and potentially HFT when the economy gets better. I'm from a big city as well so I was leaning toward Chicago as a cool place to live but still curious to hear thoughts and advice.

If any extra comments please provide reasoning below.
Really appreciate it, thank you!

[lament basin]

i don’t think the tc bump is significant enough to reneg

[grizzled bronze]

Just go with whichever location you prefer

[lament basin]

if u stick w finance u might not need to relo later

since most finance shops have an office in chiraq

[foggy perch]

Obviously its existence is enough of a sin

Cmu gathers the degen energy of average cs majors and multiplies it by 10

[gaunt steeple]

fair enough

[gray dagger]

Cmu isn't as bad tho

[whole roost]

Applicant Name: their name (girl)

[fossil jewel]

bruh wtf is going on

hi @pulsar mural

[daring gazelle]

Exactly do that

[foggy perch]

Also alternative reason cmu is degen

Their name looks like cum

[fossil jewel]

bruh its not gonna help

if it were so you'd see more girls in the industry lmao

[daring gazelle]

I do