2023_grads

[marsh sand]

How’s your job search going? Sorry about Meta btw 😦

[silk ermine]

Nw

I'm just interviewing prepping right now

Received a lot of emails of ppl wanting to help me so gotta make sure I prep well

But seems like most are HC full fo rnew grads

[foggy perch]

rip c1 and bb hirings

they really were carrying early season

[silk ermine]

are they done

[foggy perch]

idk

c1 I think so?

bb unsure

[foggy perch]

it seems bb gave out some offers this month so might not be completely done?

people keep throwing rumors out tho

[silk ermine]

i c

[teal jackal]

good luck bruh

finding a job sucks

[silk ermine]

Ty brother

does anyone kno if datadog does new grad

only found intern

[crude saffron]

A lot of the prop shops are full for ng, but I think some might still be open given that they're still looking for qr/qt?

[timber rock]

yeah, but i think hc is full now

[teal jackal]

can confirm datadog is closed for new grads

the application itself closed a while back, and a bit after that everyone who didn't get an interview got the reject email from ripplematch

[fossil jewel]

ngl idk what ddog wants out of a new grad

they seem selective

[static moth]

i think majority of the ppl datadog interviewed this szn for new grad were ppl who interviewed last year for intern

[grizzled bronze]

Put some dog projects in your resume to increase your chances

[teal jackal]

hire selectively every year but hire extra selectively this year

[static moth]

[fossil jewel]

thats true, i only had experience with splunk and not their platform

[fossil jewel]

i got rejected after the first hr call

at least i made it past resume screen

never happened before

weirdly i havent seen anyone interview further with Kensho

[silk ermine]

I applied for the intern

lol

[nocturne seal]

They may be interviewing after the new year

I was reached out to recently but failed OA

[fossil jewel]

how was the OA like?

difficulty wise

[nocturne seal]

it was like medium difficulty

It included SQL and REST questions tho

Which aren’t my strong suit

[livid yew]

I would consider those pretty good skills to know

[nocturne seal]

All I know is leetcode😔

[livid yew]

I'm the complete opposite

[teal jackal]

<1 year since graduation usually counts as new grad unless the company explicitly only is hiring graduates who are graduating in the current cycle

In any case I'd apply to any new grad role next year that doesn't explicitly exclude people who already graduated

[prime palm]

Closed bare time ago

Bloomberg is about to hit HC and Palantir is full

Idek who's open now :/

[foggy perch]

did you make sure to lie about graduation date

[stiff osprey]

What are the details for Palantir? Full overall or certain locations?

[nocturne seal]

I still have an on-site scheduled with them

[stiff osprey]

Denver?

[nocturne seal]

no idea

[prime palm]

It's full overall the only people left in the process are people who were already in the pipeline

They're not starting any new processes and anyone, if they were early enough in the process, got booted

(Like karat, first recruiter screen)

[stiff osprey]

phew

[prime palm]

NYC Palo Alto Seattle full afaik?

Only Denver and Washington DC left

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural when will more new grad jobs open up?

[foggy perch]

lmao @queen valve idk if you ever followed owl but I assume you are degen enough to have https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/zz5ibg/philadelphia_fusion_rebrands_as_seoul_infernal/

[lyric cosmos]

Have anyone heard about Interview Kickstart?

[autumn ridge]

Do they operate pramp?

[lyric cosmos]

no idea

[fossil jewel]

damn so you are degen enough

according to em

[foggy perch]

I knew you were degenerate enough

[fossil jewel]

it do be the degens that are cracked

[timber rock]

real

[foggy perch]

I'll sooner overdose on Adderall

[waxen kayak]

who says overwatch players don’t do that already

yuki has told me they’re tired of living in val’s shadow and are taking a stand

[foggy perch]

Game needs to be alive to take a stand

[livid yew]

[gloomy terrace]

Is figma done recruiting

[coarse current]

Happy new year eve guys

[livid yew]

still friday here

and I am in east coast

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2019-greetings-gif-13175802

[late kestrel]

happy news years

im in an early time zone

[ivory stratus]

Im literally the last time zone to go into the new year

[livid yew]

tf

you must be somewhere in Asia

weird

[green pendant]

here's to hoping 2023 isn't the clusterfuck 2022 was

[late kestrel]

cmon now

u rly think theres a time zone thats EST +26

[livid yew]

sure

[late kestrel]

[foggy perch]

gotta ready up all the 2023 jokes

"I haven't showered all year"

"I haven't eaten all year"

"I haven't seen you all year"

[rain patio]

Mf time traveled

[elder hound]

I haven’t showered since last year

364 days and counting

[late kestrel]

ask me again tuesday. its only sunday and the markets are closed tomorrow

ill let u know dw

[tardy geode]

2023 looks bleak

[peak pike]

tiktok oa was interesting

[ivory stratus]

If by interesting you mean cancer

[peak pike]

last problem was cancer for sure

[prime palm]

Not true

Tomorrow belongs to who prepares for it today

Keep practising

[errant karma]

And we are fucked

[tardy geode]

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

happy 4th of july everyone

im in an early time zone

[teal jackal]

tomorrow im gonna say "i havent masturbated since last year!"

[upper scarab]

friend request me and dm me

[coarse quiver]

you should be safe, gs has difficulties to recruits SWEs

[foggy perch]

I wonder if leetcode sees a significant uptick in premium purchases during the recession lmao

[errant karma]

That’s nice to know let’s wait and see

[gray dagger]

I purchased premium cause I was bitter about not getting a return offer and I gave up on leetcode after November 🫡

Leetcode stonks 📈📈

[foggy perch]

another meta person?

[plush lily]

Where can I invest?

[gray dagger]

Unicorn person 🥹

[foggy perch]

rip

[gray dagger]

Meta wasn’t even nice enough to send me an interview 😔

[foggy perch]

my guess would be roblox, brex, or some autonomous car place

[gray dagger]

Leetcode.com/premium - $160 per share

[gray dagger]

Wrong no-code, it’s called Unqork

[foggy perch]

huh

rip idk that one

[gray dagger]

Hopefully January is gonna be better

I’m out here interviewing for php roles

[livid yew]

the fuck are those shoes

lol

oh lmao never seen those before

[sonic coral]

Because you’re never in a gym

[foggy perch]

psh deadlifting shoes overrated

clearly squatting shoes based tho

[livid yew]

straight facts, no dogesmile needed

[teal jackal]

This is a dn fact

[gray dagger]

Got any ideas?

[dawn sequoia]

is this your launch?

F

same 🙂

I was thinking to follow this tutorial to learn rust and build an os

https://os.phil-opp.com/minimal-rust-kernel/#booting-it-in-qemu

nah I read some of the book like a couple months ago then never touched rust again

[livid yew]

build an os

damn big project

[dawn sequoia]

I was working on grad school apps but now I'm free for whatever

[livid yew]

grad school

just curious, why you trying for grad school?

[dawn sequoia]

it's all in the tutorial, code and explanations

[dawn sequoia]

no job

market is poop

[gray dagger]

We would need a huge dataset, cracked ml skills and a scalable platform 🫠

[dawn sequoia]

tryna go back to school to get a higher degree to look better for employers when market recovers

[livid yew]

yee for 0exp new grads

[dawn sequoia]

that's me 🙂

[livid yew]

everything is like min 2 YOE these days\

[dawn sequoia]

[livid yew]

well, that is a tough spot

[dawn sequoia]

yessir

[livid yew]

I have only used chatgpt a little bit

I just don't see it being useful to me at all tbh

[gray dagger]

Chatgpt is gonna be paid soon

Also AI is like the dotcom bubble

Its gonna burst someday

[livid yew]

I mean it could right some code for me, but that is boring

[dawn sequoia]

I need a project that generates some passive side money. most likely the first couple projects wouldnt generate revenue but I'd like one to eventually

[livid yew]

maybe I will go back to school to learn Ai/ML

[gray dagger]

On a completely unrelated topic

How do you guys find housing with shorter leases like a month

[dawn sequoia]

Airbnb?

[livid yew]

idk I searched "Software Engineer" on linkedin jobs,

[gray dagger]

Airbnb gets expensive if you decide you wanna stay longer

[dawn sequoia]

"long term"/extended stay hotel?

[gray dagger]

Sounds expensive out here in cali 💀 and I’m unemployed lmao

[dawn sequoia]

same

F

look to get a place with a couple friends?

[gray dagger]

Can’t work anywhere else as an international student

Truly fucked

[livid yew]

oh very true

so lower your standards, take A job, then move on

or if you can wait it out

do that

[dawn sequoia]

I'll take that in this market rn

better than nothing

just a stepping stone for a year or something

don't need to stay forever

yessir

yessir

if y'all know any companies like that hiring rn, lmk

[livid yew]

this is stupid. fuck the CO location

[dawn sequoia]

115k in co? sounds valuable

[livid yew]

65k

[livid yew]

oh for sure

[dawn sequoia]

prob enough to buy a mansion out there lmao

[livid yew]

actually not a terrible range here, Salary:

Pay Range: $118,982.83 - $178,474.24

[dawn sequoia]

would they hire new grad without exp for positions like those two?

[livid yew]

depends, we have a seperate new grad pipeline

high mid

no I am too dumb for FAANG

[dawn sequoia]

F

[late kestrel]

isnt sling dish

[livid yew]

sling is uhh

[dawn sequoia]

I hate frontend 🤬

full stack = some frontend

F

[late kestrel]

i got an internship offer for dish like 2 years ago and they didnt pay thaaaat much less than that engineer II position

65k seems super low

[dawn sequoia]

tbh I prob just hate it bc I never learned it in a decent manner

[foggy perch]

Nah getting into faang is just a test of how determined you are at studying and memorizing tbh

[livid yew]

not for me, some stuff just never clicks for me

[foggy perch]

Rip

[livid yew]

maybe in like 10 years sure

[dawn sequoia]

you can't beat yourself up for it

no one had any idea how it was gonna turn out for the last 3 years

[livid yew]

facts, the planet is a cluster fuck rn

COVID
Russia invading Ukraine

[dawn sequoia]

you did what you thought was best at the time with the information you had. it's not fair to look back with the information you have now and regret it

[livid yew]

thats about the only noteworthy events tbh

Queen's Death? nobody cares about her

[dawn sequoia]

🤩

[whole roost]

lol not wrong

[foggy perch]

Wasn't last year like the peak of job markets lmao

[livid yew]

I would have taken a gap, if it made sense

[vague furnace]

does anyone know if Bloomberg NG is remote/hybrid/in-office?

[tardy geode]

hoping for a good 2023

[buoyant pulsar]

Would you say algoexpert's Tech interview prep bundle is worth for 1 year at 100 dollars? I wasn't interested in the past but that discount seems pretty nice not gonna lie. (AlgoExpert, SystemsExpert, FrontendExpert, MLExpert courses)

[quasi jackal]

[timber rock]

Can't comment on the quality but the guy is annoying so idt I could sit through 4 courses with him

[fossil jewel]

lmao

i feel the same way

ngl i just dont think i can pay attention to him

[buoyant pulsar]

Hahah thanks for the brutally honest opinions I appreciate it 😄

I was thinking of buying these 4 courses just for an on-going study throughout this year

I am not looking to prepare for coding interviews

I've already used neetcode for that and it has helped me alot

Yeah definitely, I'm between this discount and neetcode's pro unlimited edition

[fossil jewel]

i think it could be too much for one year no?

[buoyant pulsar]

HAHAHA that's so true

I did the same preparing for my interviews when I bought lc premium

I was like fuck I paid 36 euros I can't fuck around all day

[fossil jewel]

yeah i have educative lmao

still use it for other langs

[buoyant pulsar]

I'll consider thinking about your advices. Thank you guys and I wish you a happy new year too 🙂

[fossil jewel]

oh in terms of learning material

i invest like 175 per year for educative but i get value out of it for tech stacks and the grokking courses

[tardy geode]

i didn't like it tbh , i found neetcode better and LC discuss section

i had bought it last year.

[west egret]

Kinda same except with LC premium

[buoyant pulsar]

I think neetcode's pro bundle is the best you could get since he's definitely going to add more and more content

But I will have to think about it

[buoyant pulsar]

Yeah! this can definitely speed up your learning process

[tardy geode]

maxstreak 125 LFGO

but 0 offer

[west egret]

I think it’s worth the money though. $100 isn’t that big of a deal for increased motivation and easier access to certain questions.

[fossil jewel]

i wish he'd have a sneak peek

like a couple of free vids to see if you like how he explains

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah or like a monthly plan

[buoyant pulsar]

It's 100 for all these courses which basically cost 400 euro with no discount

[silk ermine]

sent 🙏

[coarse quiver]

How many positions did you apply to since your last video?

[west egret]

Oh I was talking about LC premium. I haven’t used any courses for interview prep yet.

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmsUFjZLFdV/

[azure zephyr]

LC premium is 100% worth it

[chilly burrow]

You can also use https://leetcode-company-tagged.vercel.app/

[dawn sequoia]

microsoft open rn or linkedin recruiter out of the loop?

[livid yew]

Submit anyways

[jaunty basalt]

Bet the app is experienced hire

[ivory stratus]

It's not for new grads

[livid yew]

do it anyways

[small mountain]

i really dont know about that

you can find the questions right here and the community's solutions are often better than leetcode's own. also premium locked questions dont offer anything beyond the free ones

[livid yew]

can you at least use a condom, I dont need any little Tony's running around

[tawdry skiff]

kirb allows this

but has problems with kpop gifs

[timber rock]

happy new month

[timber rock]

company tagged qs are good

think the leetcode bot here is outdated

[small mountain]

depends on the company

[jaunty basalt]

Do it anyways

[tawdry skiff]

[rain patio]

They dating

I hate my life now

[foggy perch]

clearly it's a sign for you to be a reformed kpop stan now

[west egret]

At that point, it’s worth $100 to ensure you have more up to date tagged q’s. Being able to practice premium questions without going to other sites is a plus too.

I only used mine for about 1 month and it’s 100% worth if you get an offer.

[small mountain]

true if the company has updated questions. i was trying for expedia and none of the tagged questions were of any help

[west egret]

Which offer did you end up picking if you don’t mind me asking?

[timber rock]

tagged is for interviews not oa's Mr 3/30

all my 4 interview questions were tagged

[azure zephyr]

atlassian!

[west egret]

NYC or remote?

[vital gust]

steak house

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-2022-fireworks-happy-lunar-gif-24317529

[rain patio]

Deadass too many to count

Happy new. Year

[teal jackal]

stomp em in the nuts

stomp em in the nuts imma stomp em in the nuts

is it just me or is shit like new years, christmas, birthdays, and shit just not magical anymore as a social failure adult

[lament basin]

sounds like u need more lc

[grizzled bronze]

sounds like u need more vitamin d

[rain thicket]

Is it still hiring freeze or Market will go up in 1st Q '23?

[silk ermine]

Just a few, but did 45 LCs since. The prep has begun 🙏

[winter thistle]

@silk ermine did FB screw you over or are you hunting backups?

[small mountain]

taking cheap shots at my blind OA performance when you failed the onsite despite having all tagged questions

[small mountain]

oh shit fucking love u pan <3

[foggy perch]

he got rescinded by fb

[tawdry skiff]

It's been a year since I took a shit

[silk ermine]

ye they fkd me, check my latest vid

[silk ermine]

❤️

[timber rock]

I passed idc

That mf fucked me over by not knowing python

[small mountain]

got an offer?

[timber rock]

Should have

[small mountain]

[tribal moss]

!process

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[tribal moss]

whoops wrong channel

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cmtk0hRjjJt

[nocturne oriole]

[livid yew]

@nocturne oriole

[tawdry skiff]

bro, you have some sort of bot that tracks my messages or something?

[chilly burrow]

Make sure to check #grad_postings_old for new jobs as well!

[tulip pilot]

if I am graduating in Fall 2023, when should I begin the new grad preparation? What resources do you guys recommend?

[small mountain]

have you done leetcode before? how is your data structures & algorithms knowledge?

you should have been prepared and deep into the interviewing process by now, if not, received an offer

[tulip pilot]

Oh but new grad for that hasn’t started yet though

I didn’t see any company openings yet

[timber rock]

yeah, you should start asap

some places wont accept fall 2023 grads for this cycle but some will

it's an awkward time to graduate but you shoudl be eligible for next cycle as well

[hollow anvil]

afaik fall 2023 grads are pretty much the same as spring 2024 grads but with an earlier start date

I think you can start looking in a few months

at least that’s what im planning to do

[foggy perch]

when he says fall 2023 does he mean he graduates august/september?

[hollow anvil]

dec 2023

most likely

[foggy perch]

if dec 2023 he can absolutely just apply for 2024 roles lmao

and 2023 roles if he wants

2023 roles probs not as likely to respond b/c he's applying when they're almost over

[timber rock]

thats what i guessed but if its december then yea justa pply for 2024

[hollow anvil]

ye so you're basically a 2024 grad but with an earlier start date

[foggy perch]

^

[fossil jewel]

if you have an internship for the summer it helps

[tulip pilot]

yeah thank you guys! By Fall 2023 I meant I will be graduating in December 2023 lol

[teal jackal]

now but youre not really gonna be able to apply anywhere until july

but jump on applying ASAP

applying a day late can make a difference in when you get to do your interview

and whether or not you get an interview at all

[tulip pilot]

yeah that makes sense. For now I have made sure to perfect my resume

now I will be leetcoding till applications open

[nocturne seal]

What are people doing for work between now and graduation

Running out of money

[teal jackal]

bumming off my parents

[livid yew]

[livid yew]

part-time job at Starbucks, try that

[nocturne seal]

hehe

no

gonna gamble I think

[livid yew]

[frosty gale]

You can try tutoring math + cs rich Asian kids

my cousin made $80-100/hr doing that via Zoom

[nocturne seal]

wtf

[nocturne seal]

I would do this full time

[frosty gale]

but you need to go to a "prestigious school" & have good SAT scores

because that's all their parents care about lol

[teal jackal]

cool bug fact's: did you know that azerbaijan is currently committing crimes against humanity by continuing the blockade against the Armenian people of Nagorno-Karabakh?

[hollow anvil]

just lie

[frosty gale]

you could

but the said parents made my cousin go through a background check

[hollow anvil]

lmfao bruh

[stoic belfry]

ideate DN

[tender sluice]

How do I get cloudflare interview

help

[wild igloo]

hmmm i swear ive seen this plot somewhere before lmao

[lament summit]

hey so, I’m planning on starting x on aug since they delayed my job from Feb to Aug, but I just got an offer from y to start in July, do I just accept both, start y in July and quit to join x by the time august comes around or do I just wait till august ?

[quartz vale]

accept both, you can't be sure if x will rescind or not tbh...

[lament summit]

true

but would it be worth moonlighting for a month?

or even for a week or two

[outer radish]

anyone got cloudflare referrals?

[autumn ridge]

You can def accept both but starting in july and then leaving in august probaly isn't worth the headache bc if you have sign on bonus you will have to return also could mess with your taxes and make them complicated, signing up for health insurance theirs just a lot that for me wouldn't be worth the headache unless you really need the money for the time you would work

[autumn ridge]

Yeah this is what i was trying to say lol

[foggy perch]

rip is that really how it works, can you request back some money during tax season or something

[fossil jewel]

wait

you pay pretax if you bail?

that’s crazy

since it gets taxed 40%

[peak ferry]

p sure that's not exactly the case in the sense you should make it out whole in the end. it might fuck your cash flow tho if you aren't getting the rest back until tax time

[fossil jewel]

yeah that i understand

but i’d imagine getting a huge bonus

and having only gotten 60%

and now you gotta pay the whole 40%

[livid yew]

Huge bonus

[primal pike]

when does amz post new positions for interns / juniors

[lament summit]

Can I just like not accept the signing bonus lmao

[normal palm]

perpetually

[rain patio]

Hi all,
Does anyone know a reliable website to check the average/typical salary of tech positions in a city?

[lament summit]

levels.fyi

[coarse current]

Blind is also okay

[teal jackal]

Lol ripplematch is pretty much worthless

[azure zephyr]

remote

[prime palm]

agreed

same with 'untapped'

[teal jackal]

I straight up dont know why either platform exists

[prime palm]

trying to usurp linkedin is all

[livid citrus]

anyone have airtable final anytime soon?

[crystal delta]

in one week

[west egret]

Nice. Heard the pay is pretty good for remote.

[sudden sequoia]

anyone have any experience changing their offer location for Goldman Sachs?

I think it likely depends per company, but on average id say under 2 years experience prolly means ur still considered a new grad

[delicate sentinel]

What platform do you use to find jobs other than LinkedIn?

[green pendant]

and failing at that. LinkedIn has no major competitor as of now

[wind drum]

indeed and glassdoor are fairly large competitors

Could probably count Dice and Ziprecruiter as well

[swift trellis]

Idk if this is too late but I have

[green pendant]

Nah they're not nearly as big

[green pendant]

Glassdoor isn't a social network so idt that's a fair comparison

Glassdoor and LinkedIn can coexist

[wind drum]

yeah ig linkedin is the only one to be part social network and part job board

[teal jackal]

linkedin isnt that bad

I hated on it too much

I have found linkedin somewhat useful for recruiter connections and the job board isn't all that bad

[verbal bay]

bro how hard is it gonna be to find a job in 2023

[foggy perch]

obviously need to solve every LC hard in O(1) time

[chilly burrow]

Hard

[green pendant]

bruh they didn't even wait till Jan 3rd to hand out the L's. Got like 6 rejections today

[azure zephyr]

yeah its nice! its actually based off where youre working remote so if ur in like nyc or sf your pay is higher than somebody in...idaho lmao

[wheat seal]

I like ripplematch tho

I think it’s good, def not a replacement for linkedin tho

[green pendant]

tomorrow marks the return to office for many companies here's to hoping 2023 starts strong

[livid yew]

[outer radish]

stay strong boys

[deep wasp]

Question

I don’t start my position until next august and I don’t know what team I’ll be on yet or what technologies / languages I’ll use. Would it be weird if I emailed my recruiter and asked if there’s any general tools / technologies / languages I could study up on / familiarize myself with to be more prepared when I do start?

[fossil jewel]

you can probably look up at the tech stack they list in the application

otherwise, just enjoy the time off

[late kestrel]

^

theyre gonna pay you to learn em

[teal jackal]

man 2023 is not shaping up to be a good year
1.) Recession impending, we entered the new year with a bad economy
2.) The car enthusiast world lost Ken Block today

[split knoll]

i mean arent we in a recession already

[teal jackal]

Officially no

The economy is just weird af rn

[split knoll]

honestly fuck this world

every day shit gets worse

lol

[humble pebble]

So sad to lose Ken Block, he's a legend 🙁 why is it always snow that causes these things

[tardy geode]

I wake up with anxiety everyday

[marsh sand]

Have palantir and bb onsite coming up soon

And i just started reading grokking sysdesign

I think imma die

[tardy geode]

how do you guys prepare for an interview except LC and behavioral do you also look at tech specific questions? like lets say react or js interview questions . i mean theory stuff?

[safe ice]

Have positions opened for december 2023 grads?

Generally, when do they open for december 2023 or may 2024?

[dapper aspen]

same

if i grad without a job ill go into serious depression

[tardy geode]

i am already depressed and i have only 2-3 months to get something

[autumn ridge]

Generally just behavioral and LC. One thing is I would be ready to defend any skills or projects on your resume technically.

[tardy geode]

"defend any skill" ? wdym by that

is there a good resource for preparing for behavioural questions?

like any list or something?

[teal jackal]

damn son

[teal jackal]

like if you have networks and distributed systems on your resume, companies might ask you a networks question

basically, you have to be able to come up for an answer for everything on your resume

[tardy geode]

oh i see

[teal jackal]

coursework, projects, internships

[autumn ridge]

Like if you have AWS on your resume or Redis be able to speak confidently about that technology.

[teal jackal]

also that

or a programming language

they may ask questions related to syntax, concepts, memory management in that language, etc

[sweet urchin]

dont feel like you need a job right as you graduate. Having a job before you graduate is already a very impressive feat, not having a job by graduation is normal for most every college student, so you shouldnt be holding yourself to that standard

[teal jackal]

It's still kinda dookie lol

[livid yew]

New Grads, New Year

Best of luck

[tardy geode]

not for international students , i am somehow trying to keep myself sane and preping

hope everything falls in place and i get something before i graduate

[twilit wasp]

is opt not an option for you? or are you not based in the states?

[tardy geode]

it is but still

[twilit wasp]

how much does it cost?

grad visa in the uk for 2 years cost nearly £3k i think

[timber rock]

think you still get kicked out if you're unemployed even on opt

[twilit wasp]

really? i dont think so? hmm

[tardy geode]

the day after you graduate the 90 days clock starts , within that time frame if you don't find anything then you gotta go back . that's how it works in the US . So usually when times are normal people get an offer before they graduate .

[timber rock]

Damn bruh

[tardy geode]

and in between that you gotta file EAD and stuff( thats a doc that allows you to start working FT)

[twilit wasp]

wait even with opt?

[timber rock]

They let ppl stay for 2 years no matter what here

[twilit wasp]

if you cough up £3k for grad visa

[tardy geode]

for opt you have to have a job , can't stay unemployed on it

[twilit wasp]

otherwise im also kicked out 3 months grad as well

[tardy geode]

yeah i heard of it

[timber rock]

If the student can afford the international fees then I think they can cough up 3k lol

[tardy geode]

what do you mean by 3k pounds for grad visa?

[timber rock]

Processing fee

[tardy geode]

i mean i would have to enroll in some college right?

[twilit wasp]

not so easy to go back to your parents and ask for an additional 3k when you are already on massive student debts 🤦‍♀️

[tardy geode]

yes this 😢 .

[twilit wasp]

processing fee for visa but mainly health insurance for free healthcare since we dont pay the taxes yet

[timber rock]

The grad visa is for after graduation

So like you come here on student visa, graduate from your course and apply for grad visa

[tardy geode]

oh so to stay for 2 years you gotta pay 3k pounds?

[twilit wasp]

yeah

kind of

[tardy geode]

but they will have a condition right like having a degree from UK school etc

[timber rock]

Or you can go straight to the skilled worker visa

[twilit wasp]

think top 100 unis in the world and uk unis

[timber rock]

Duno how much that costs

[twilit wasp]

that's mainly for healthcare like nurses i think

[tardy geode]

ty

[twilit wasp]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/05/31/britain-opens-up-its-visas-for-graduates-of-worlds-top-universities/?sh=6a1a54ef27fc

but the pay in the uk is much lower than in the US

and the economy is fcked as well, or even more tbh

[timber rock]

still the highest pay in europe

outside of google zurich

[stark topaz]

is it hard to find low pay swe job in uk with 2 year visa after uni?

30k is average I think, right?

[twilit wasp]

Yeah

[timber rock]

30k companies prob won't accept people on visa cause of needing future sponsorship

[twilit wasp]

I mean depends which company, arup pays less than 40k for london (i think) but they do sponsorship

[timber rock]

basically if the company is an approved sponsor then they probably do, and if they're not then they don't

but yeah around 30k is normal for a new grad

[autumn ridge]

uk salarys vs us are crazy

[foggy perch]

truly the power of being the center of the world ig

[timber rock]

it's us vs the rest of the world basically

only country that comes close to them is switzerland

but the tradeoff of making that much is that you have to live in america, which is a really big negative

[meager latch]

What’s bad about the US?

[timber rock]

unwalkable cities, bad public transport, bad food, very expensive to fly anywhere, terrible worker's rights, insane politics

nyc is cool, i'd like living there, but anywhere else would have to pay me a lot of money 😈

[frosty gale]

Terrible workers right is one of the reasons US salary is high tho

But yes urban sprawl is a big problem in the US

[twilit wasp]

you think that the london underground is nice? 😂 in terms of food, i would say that they have more option than in the uk, especially if you are vegan

[frosty gale]

It started in the 50s

[timber rock]

you think london's public transport is bad? have you ever been to an american city?

[twilit wasp]

i did lmao

i went to boston, nyc, dc and philly

[timber rock]

london has incredible public transport, yeah its dirty and loud but it's still very convenient

[twilit wasp]

it's well connected but takes so much time to go from a to b, you waste so much time in the underground unless you live in zone 1 and pay like 1.5k for rent only

[fervent drift]

just got amazon rejection

time to drown in sorrows again

[late kestrel]

literally all of these r explained by: massive country with a shit ton of different people

[timber rock]

ik

well 3 out of 6 are

the others can be lumped in with insane politics

[late kestrel]

which ones rnt

[timber rock]

bad food, workers rights, insane politics

[late kestrel]

id agree with workers rights

[timber rock]

bad food is just a lack of good health standards, workers rights is basically the same as insane politics

[tardy geode]

i am finding chatgpt better than google

saves a lot of time

[late kestrel]

bad food is ultra subjective, and everyone has insane politics, you just hear so much about the US in media

but yeah workers rights is a huge ??

[tardy geode]

doesn't US have good labour laws tho ? like each state has a min wage / hr thing

[timber rock]

dont think there's anywhere in the west that has mainstream politics as insane as the us republicans lol

[late kestrel]

probably. but if there were, you just wouldnt hear about it nearly as much

[livid yew]

Wait what else is considered "The West" other than North/South America

Isn't the EU east?

[timber rock]

the west is NA + europe

and usually australia nd nz are thrown in there despite being not west

[twilit wasp]

wut

[livid yew]

Oh

TIL

[twilit wasp]

that doesnt make sense lmao

[livid yew]

What is considered East then

Asia?

[timber rock]

australia and nz have similar culture thats why theyre there

[livid yew]

They might as well be a single country

[twilit wasp]

yeah but still

[timber rock]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

[livid yew]

US Education failing me today

[delicate cloak]

lmao

at least i got confirmation that my interviewer did pass me and it was on HR's end

[timber rock]

damn

they're being realy selective recently

[late kestrel]

also you almost censored his name

[delicate cloak]

ya oops lol

[whole roost]

with so many applicants in the pipeline they can afford to stack rank everyone against each other

[timber rock]

yeah

my friend got rejected a couple weeks ago after a good interview as well

[teal jackal]

shit

bloomberg is stack ranking atm?

no wonder why bloomberg
1.) takes so long
2.) is rejecting so many people who aced it(i didnt ace mine)

[timber rock]

dont think its confirmed

either they're stack ranking or they raised the bar to jupiter

[delicate cloak]

just gonna blame it on my shitty school

[autumn ridge]

That's crazy was that your interview for the final round? How did you other rounds go? I don't think school matters I go to very shitty state school

[delicate cloak]

yeah it was final technical round, they all went well IMO

[autumn ridge]

That is bizarre. I don't know how their process works internally so maybe it's possible you got dinged on other rounds? Have you reached out to HR/your recruiter super longshot but might be worth it to check you didn't get rejected by mistake or something

[delicate cloak]

yeah my recruiter confirmed it wasn't a mistake

[autumn ridge]

damn man sorry to hear that. Bright side you must've absolutely crushed that interview for the BB guy to reach out like that

[oak garden]

Hiring bar is really frustrating this year

[delicate cloak]

the most annoying thing was they hit me with the copypaste we look for an understanding of data structures and algorithms, strong problem solving skills, and fluency in your selected programming language.

[fresh lagoon]

not a surprise to be fair no one gives feedback

[delicate cloak]

would have been better if they just didn't say that at all

[autumn ridge]

is that a copy paste they send to everyone?

[delicate cloak]

i think so

[tardy geode]

they raised the bar to alpha centauri

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

the bar has been raised to jupiter for every other company

[teal jackal]

interviewing and recruiting is such a one way process

the company has the exponentially higher odds of getting what they want

[chilly burrow]

Yes ✨️

[azure zephyr]

hey man saw that you got an offer, big congrats

[teal jackal]

thanks fam

[grizzled bronze]

Resume reject?

[fervent drift]

Painfully so

[green pendant]

isn't bad public transport at least partially because of corporate lobbying?

[green pendant]

unwalkable cities and bad public transport are both sides of the same coin. America as a whole is just a very car dependent country.

[teal jackal]

is fidgeting frowned upon while thinking

like I always fidget by shaking my right foot when i think

my dad is getting on my case about it

[rigid quail]

wdym frowned upon

[teal jackal]

telling me that interviewers and colleagues will want to fire me for fidgeting in the office

the way i see it, any company that wont tolerate my different lifestyle and thought process is one i'd not want to work at

[rigid quail]

they won't want to fire you if you do your job but if I'm being honest it's pretty distracting if you're sitting next to or across from someone

[green pendant]

lmao I don't think this will happen dw

it's borderline discrimination to fire someone just for being fidgety

[rigid quail]

it's also a sign of anxiety but that's not uncommon in tech at all, but it would be productive to look at the underlying issue causing fidgeting

[timber rock]

Interviewers won't care lol

I subconsciously pulled out a rubix cube and started playing while talking during Expedia and still got a strong hire

[teal jackal]

i think psychology wise, fidgeting is kind of a process that just runs for me automatically the minute i start thinking.

and fidgeting takes care of physical needs like maintaining circulation

[rigid quail]

about anything?

[teal jackal]

so i dont have to manually take care of it while im thinking

[rigid quail]

like think of a pizza right now do you start fidgeting?

[green pendant]

they were secretly timing you to see how fast you solved the cube

[grizzled bronze]

They gave you a strong hire because of the Rubik's cube

[teal jackal]

thinking about learning or solving problems especially I fidget the most

like my foot goes at like 10000rpm when I'm doing a leetcode interview

[rigid quail]

exactly, it's problem solving and learning which are inherently uncomfortable situations, so your brain fidgets as a physical way to relieve the anxiety

[timber rock]

Must be why my 2nd interviewer gave me no hire, didn't pull out a cube during that one

[teal jackal]

how do you know about hire/no hire? did expedia give u feedback?

[timber rock]

Yeah recruiter called me

[teal jackal]

tbh I can't hate on calling to reject in the context of objective and actually useful feedback

[timber rock]

Nah I got rejected by email but it said please let me know if u wanna call and I'll tell you your feedback

[teal jackal]

thats good

i can respect that fr

[grizzled bronze]

They're doing rejections right 👍

[teal jackal]

i can respect the transparency

[timber rock]

Yeah definitely the best rejection I've had lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah transparency at least lets you know what to work on next

[fossil jewel]

its not fireable but it can be a bit distracting to others

i sat next to someone who also shook his foot a lot and i could feel it

it wasnt bothersome to me

[teal jackal]

yeah thats fair

my dad was probably being way too dramatic about it

but ill try to curb it, or find a relatively quiet place in the office where i wont disturb others too noticeably

[tall solar]

Same

[teal jackal]

I have a friend who applied for the 2022 grad role and got the offer in a jiffy

2022 grad role, but is actually class of 2023

like your experience

the hiring bar didn't become absoltuely batshit crazy

sounds abt right

when bloomberg is the only place with faang tier TC still hiring a lot of people

and wlb is not bad, and company is established

[tardy geode]

are they even keeping a track of how many offers they have rolled out

[whole roost]

Narrator: "They didn't."

[serene blaze]

Guys, Any Udemy project suggestions? (applying for SWE full-time positions)

[quartz vale]

Does anyone know if aquatic does remote work for new grads..

[tardy geode]

how is this entry level

[livid yew]

send link

@tardy geode

[long quail]

what are the best resources for new grad postings? is it the coderquad github?

also is it too late for me to start applying to jobs lmfao

[tardy geode]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3424103755

[stoic belfry]

it’s rough

[wanton minnow]

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023 This one looks like it has stopped updating.

Has it stopped updating, or have no new posts been released recently?

[grizzled bronze]

It's not entry level, LinkedIn auto tags job listing levels and it can be inaccurate

[tardy geode]

new grad is brutal , experience might give you an edge to apply for non ng roles like the ones that require 1+ or 2+ years of workex

[tardy geode]

oh i see

[tardy geode]

for non new grad , i think no as i have seen they explicitly specify non internship experience sometimes

anyways its rough , idk if i should apply to contract jobs rn

or should i start applying to those ones when i am nearing graduation

i worked in a startup that got shut down last year in Oct(i worked there in late 2020- early 2021 ) but I am at good terms with the CTO , so should i mention it in my resume?

[teal jackal]

internships wont count towards it, especially since youre competing with actual industry hires

[tardy geode]

[nimble shore]

bro could i dm u about airtable?

[teal jackal]

yo
anyone here have good study advice for last minute prep
I have not leetcoded in a month
and I have an interview tomorrow

[nocturne oriole]

Look at top interview questions tagged and know the top5

8 hrs sleep

No caffeine that morning

[teal jackal]

why not caffeine?

i mean caffeine doesnt work on me anyways

[nocturne oriole]

If ur nervous then it is not the time to play with uppers

[teal jackal]

yeah true

best form of alertness and sharpness is the one naturally acquired from good rest

How do you warm your brain up to enter the leetcode mentality again

[late kestrel]

caffeine is the best PED

as long as u have time to poop

[nocturne oriole]

Ur basically asking how to enter focus mode

Not LC specific

Varies by person but common advice is headphones, stretches, pomodoro, brown noise, rain sounds, remove distractions etc

[teal jackal]

also I need to review LC concepts

[dawn sequoia]

go to sleep with a plan written down for the next day so you wake up with a prepped mind and ready to go

[teal jackal]

but tbh if I get an easy-leaning medium I'll possibly be able to wing it without prep

I'm gonna do one problem from each section of B75

[elder hound]

All of the above

[quartz vale]

seems like it

I have not interviewed yet

will do prob next week

just a recruiter call

[jaunty storm]

I took the exams 11 years ago.

Is it still worth it?

[green pendant]

is this for some consultancy role

[crystal delta]

sure

[jaunty storm]

College Graduates - Full-Time - Junior Software Engineer
at Old Mission

[jaunty basalt]

OMC asks for sat score

Makes the most sense when it doesn’t

[tawdry skiff]

[timber rock]

this robot cannot be trusted 😡

[quartz vale]

thanks

probably not gonna get it though

I need to work remotely in Canada

They 99% won't approve

[livid yew]

tbh even I don't know the right answer

[teal jackal]

people like u will ruin the data model for chatgpt

[timber rock]

i will single handedly take down openai

[fossil jewel]

[tawdry skiff]

[normal palm]

you'd be surprised

[teal jackal]

rly?

[swift grail]

Is bloomberg nyc hc full? I did first part of onsite like a month ago and haven't heard anything from them since then (no rejection, no recruiter reply)

[winter thistle]

bbg ghosted me for 6 weeks

after I passed the first round

then I did the onsite and got reject

bbg interview experience was very whack

recruiter was very unresponsive

[swift grail]

That sucks to hear

[winter thistle]

it's fine

good experience

you should experience how it feels to be treated like shit

i have other options so im chilling

[winter thistle]

i don't mean this as a joke you will actually learn how to deal with all the bullshit companies throw at you

[nocturne oriole]

If u are born ugly it will make u stronger

No cap

[small mountain]

speaking from experience?

[tardy geode]

what if i put no for sponsorship , start work and then switch to another company and there i ask for sponsorship?

coz if i put yes for the question now , i am not getting any OAs or interviews . its just brutal af

[errant karma]

Just lie for now but don’t lie when speaking to a human being

Robots are fair game

[teal jackal]

honestly you could probably get away with it

"sorry it was a typo"

[livid yew]

@queen valve

Opt is different than H1B?

TIL

[teal jackal]

i think what he wants to do is lie about visa needs to get past resume screen

[errant karma]

Keyword “future” if no future then you don’t need sponsorship

[teal jackal]

and admit it after he's past the screening

[errant karma]

Which is ok in my opinion

[teal jackal]

If he's desperate he might as well

and it'd probably be highly unlikely that there's a company that theoretically would have taken him past resume screening even with sponsorship required, but rejects him after revealing he needs sponsorship

the risk factor is low enough that he should just do it

[livid yew]

So sponsorship meaning the company pays for the process?

Why don't you all just become citizens

Can't be that difficult

[errant karma]

Lol I am listening

[livid yew]

My parents fucked and I was born here. Pretty easy if you ask me

[teal jackal]

some people are illegally immigrating here because its actually easier to be on track for citizenship/green card that way than through h1b

[livid yew]

Green card sounds like a headache tbh

[teal jackal]

but then again that would destroy their prospects for a white collar job

[errant karma]

You can’t skip directly to citizenship though unless Military

[teal jackal]

the waitlist for a green card for certain countries is insane rn

[errant karma]

If you marry a citizen you get 2 years of green card

[livid yew]

Hmm I need to find a non-citizen to marry me

[errant karma]

Doing the good work I see

[timber rock]

Don't think it's a good idea to lie about it lol

[errant karma]

I mean you are lying for a short period of time before you reveal yourself

The other option is rejection

[livid yew]

[errant karma]

I mean I took a pay cut for a fast track H1B process

Apparently there are 2 times in a year you can apply for H1B. So I requested for the soonest time possible which is March and since it is a lottery I might not get it. So they have to reapply for me in September

[livid yew]

my autofill script just always selects No for all those questions

Male
White
Veteran? No
Disability? No
US Citizen? Yes

Simple logic

[errant karma]

I think the whole H1B process is a lottery regardless of where you are from. Unless I am very wrong

2 lotteries in a year if I am not wrong

Makes sense

[livid yew]

I added up the total of everything I'm wearing at the office today

💸

[teal jackal]

Welp

Interview in 7 minutes

[errant karma]

there are only 65,000 visas available for regular cap approval and 20,000 for master’s cap.

[errant karma]

You got this 💪

[timber rock]

Where

Good luck gamer

[teal jackal]

thanks guys

[sharp plume]

who is still hiring at this point

[earnest perch]

man I'm getting stressed out over finding a job. How likely is it that there'll be another cycle of new grad hiring before May?

[tender sluice]

same boat

[tardy geode]

honestly i don't want to lie , as it might backfire at me in future . was just asking

[tardy geode]

its difficult to get a US citizenship nowadays . people who immigrated in the 90's got theirs in 12-15 years , now even to get a green card it takes 10 years min

oh i see.

[fossil jewel]

usually not good to lie for any immigration things

[livid yew]

I see

I was born here

[fossil jewel]

in the midwest

[livid yew]

No costal childhood

[tardy geode]

yeah , i won't .

i am just working hard , hope my efforts don't go in vain .

i have had a bad fall 2022 sem , my flatmates are shit . i felt lonely for the first time since i entered US . worked so hard for the bloomberg interview only to get rejected after the first round which went perfect in november . hope these coming few months are good (doesn't seem like but i am optimistic about it)

grateful to this server , y'all are awesome .

[livid yew]

Bad roomies is tough

[livid yew]

😈

[tardy geode]

ik 😦 .

[gray dagger]

Push through it

You got it chief

[green pendant]

god the way I feel this

my roomie plays guitar at 2 am even though I specifically asked not to

the worst part though is that most of my friends moved out of the town for work and I am now the only one from my batch still here looking for a job

[iron lily]

I thought it should be a relatively short process for Canadian/UK citizens?

I’ve heard it’s only bad for ppl from countries like India and China due to the country cap

[teal jackal]

bad rooomates lmao

my mf roommate trashed the damn kitchen every time he cooked

feels bad

[plush lily]

Keep pushing boys, better times will come

[tardy geode]

[timber rock]

lovely oa

30 min time limit as well 😵‍💫 that's rough

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

@livid yew dont u have big boy stuff to do

[livid yew]

It's lunch time

[tardy geode]

rokt had something like this but it was worse . 50 questions in 20 mins 💀

i am finding chat gpt good for getting templates , like inmail templates and stuff .

[prime palm]

Hmm

[outer radish]

shoutout to the person keeping the 2023_grad_postings fresh

genuinely doing a proper service for the community here

[teal jackal]

my brain fried
3.5 hours of interviews
a lot of behaviorals

ill probably get a decision end of day today or early tomorrow
honestly I could expect the decision to go either way

I wouldn't be shocked about getting an offer and I wouldn't be shocked about getting rejected

[green pendant]

Good luck! What company was this?

[chilly burrow]

You're welcome

It isn't

I am not 😃👍

[teal jackal]

veeva

[outer radish]

companies actually tripping these days

boutta thanos snap the entire codebase

[prime palm]

you're writing code for iron man's suit

[teal jackal]

this is a real fucking thing

end this god damn clown world already

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3420264175

I sexually identify as an Avengers Level Python Developer now

[nocturne seal]

Chewy is interviewing again

Do you guys ever decline interviews

[late kestrel]

ok now whats your excuse

[late kestrel]

i used to not in the past but this year i got the best i knew i was gonna get so i cancelled everything else

[livid yew]

Wdym

[chilly burrow]

Yes

[livid yew]

Waiting for PR review

So discord time

[late kestrel]

likely story

[livid yew]

[timber rock]

"Skills Required: Python capabilities strong enough to take on Thanos with at least 2 infinity stones"

[livid yew]

[grizzled bronze]

Wow, what a progressive company

[timber rock]

Drw oa difficulty?

Anyone know

I just got it

Mako Trading

Wasn't that bad tbh, lots of weird maths problem solving things but I ended up with like 72%

Thanku

[quick kindle]

Its nice in California and Washington jobs have to post a salary range for base pay

[ivory stratus]

except some places just post a stupid big range for salary

like

$86k-$176k

[primal pike]

[nocturne oriole]

Range: The set of Natural numbers

[late kestrel]

ny too now

[ivory stratus]

anyone elses new years resolution to lc more 👀

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm945UBI--A/

[errant karma]

I feel like we will see more layoffs this quarter compared to last quarter

[green pendant]

2023 stats so far: 4 applications, 9 rejects, 0 interviews/offers

Who's doing it like me😎

[livid yew]

how 4 and 9

that math dont check out

[chilly burrow]

Yes most likely

[livid pagoda]

rejections from last year

[green pendant]

From last year. And also one rejection was from a company that didn't even mention the role

[tardy geode]

got fired from my oncampus job , idk what to say smh .

rough start to the year

[green pendant]

Ughh sorry to hear that

[tardy geode]

good thing is i will get more time to prep , but bad thing is i might have to think twice to even spend 3$

[grizzled bronze]

Fired? Did they say why?

[tardy geode]

so thing is i was gonna take the week off from 3rd jan (that is this week) . i informed my supervisor about this last thursday .

so this is the sole reason

that i informed on thursday

my plan was not confirmed until then thats why i couldn’t inform her more early

then she drops me a mail today that i am fired smh

stating that as the reason

its a fking oncampus job not fulltime they don’t get this and even the students working there

[grizzled bronze]

That's dumb of them, campus jobs already pay low too

[tardy geode]

they have a one on one meeting weekly💀

[tardy geode]

yeah true

the pay is min wage

[green pendant]

Campus jobs are low key exploitive ngl

So much work for so little pay

[tardy geode]

also they ask us to do full 20hours not even 19(international students can work up to 20 hours per week)

[tardy geode]

ik lol

i would just have my focus on getting a job solely, don’t want this additional shit . gonna graduate in 4 months

[livid yew]

7.25/hr

[tardy geode]

na 14.5

[livid yew]

oh

well federal is still 7.25

so I assume that everywhere

[livid yew]

more than I made in college

[fossil jewel]

midwest prices

[livid yew]

wtf

[fossil jewel]

https://www.paycor.com/resource-center/articles/minimum-wage-by-state/

[livid yew]

Illinois $12.00

when I was in HS it was still 7.25

I made 9 in HS

[fossil jewel]

idk how accurate this is

[livid yew]

Wyoming $5.15

hmm

sussy

[fossil jewel]

when i was in hs i think ny was around 12 maybe

[livid yew]

yeah fuck you buddy

[split plaza]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-lay-off-over-17-000-workers-more-than-first-planned-11672874304?st=gblgjf5tzn6r9im&reflink=article_copyURL_share

[fossil jewel]

it was under 10 before 2016

nyc expensive

[livid yew]

well dont live in nyc

[teal jackal]

State minimum wage in Massachusetts is goated

Someone said Amazon and Microsoft might resume hiring later this year

Any evidence to confirm or suggest this?

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-buster-baxter-bunny-you-really-think-someone-would-do-that-go-on-the-internet-and-tell-lies-gif-17527378

[open plank]

if you have thousands of people with work experience desperate for jobs hanging around i find it unlikely that companies will still hire NGs unless its for tax break or something

[timber rock]

no idea about amazon or msft but meta is allegedly opening for interns this month

new grad still a desert

[teal jackal]

My first time playing arma 3

[fossil jewel]

ah yes let me go to my immigrant parents and ask them why they didnt go to middle of nowhere and went to a city with a bigger job market instead

[teal jackal]

arma 3 is fun
i thoroughly enjoyed it today
it's a game I could see myself playing more of
tbh mil-sims and tactical shooters are better for someone like me with really slow reflexes, because being careful and patient gives you the inherent advantage that no amount of fast reflexes and good aim can give

[fossil jewel]

i liked the game too

bit hard tho

would get insta death till i found mods

and probably cheated

dont roast 15 year old me, i was just looking for a good time

[teal jackal]

I played with a high school friend

we're gonna play again tomorrow

[fossil jewel]

i sadly do not have a gaming pc

just a mac

[teal jackal]

arma is for the type of person who likes hunting or fishing

its kinda a slow paced game most of the time

[fossil jewel]

yeah it was a fun game

ahead of its time

lots of older games were

sleeping dogs was really fun too

[livid yew]

sorry I was born in the US

unlike all of you

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

[fossil jewel]

we season our foods

[livid yew]

we do too

wtf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972617781910597682/1060316935163740220/1048356991313133649.png

I got hella spices