2023_grads

[timber rock]

yo if anyone interested google has reopened new grad hiring in uhhhh taipei

[livid yew]

Wtf

Yeah ok dude

Gonna relocate from the US

[timber rock]

i would unironically apply but i know i would fail and with my luck they would reopen before my cooldown is up

[tardy geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004741311175327824/1047370395818410044/maxwell-1.gif

[fallen fox]

hirevue coding is so bad

[nocturne oriole]

google taiwan has abysmally low salary compared to america

[primal pike]

unemployment is harder

[fallen fox]

i dont understand the formatting

[fallen fox]

i cant parse the input lmao rip

[oak patrol]

Are they even hiring for new grads?

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural pls DM pachiti that his ban is over

this is not a drill

[gloomy terrace]

They are

[teal jackal]

I have no idea what im doing in life lmao
I just know I want to do code stuff
no idea what within software engineering i want to work on
Crossroads between backend/distributed/cloud and game engine dev
this is normal for new grads right

[worn seal]

Recruiter called yesterday after about 1 week after my final interview and said “I know it’s right before the holidays but I wanted to let you know we made the decisions and are going to be moving on w other candidates” 🎅🎄

[nocturne seal]

What company😬

[marsh sand]

Bloomberg emailed me to tell me i passed my interview

But dont have slots no more

[teal jackal]

name and shame

not like we can do anything about it tbh

but name and shame anyways

i heard abt 120k or so tc

good for middle of nowhere midwest

i mean i cant confirm since i didnt apply

[livid yew]

Madison is not middle of nowhere

[green pendant]

what round?

[timber rock]

does anyone have an offer they dont want that i can have?

[robust kettle]

quite normal imo. I have no clue either

[late kestrel]

yeah bro its a town of 400 ppl smh

[tardy geode]

you are not alone mate

[whole roost]

A village, honestly

[green pendant]

idk if it's name and shame worthy but mathworks recruiter called me today to reject. my onsite was on 11/18 lmao

called me out of nowhere 3 days before christmas ffs it's so weird

[teal jackal]

Call to reject?

Honestly I'd just disconnect immediately after they say reject

It's a waste of time to call to reject

[green pendant]

yeah. he called to explain that the delay was due to volume of applications

and thanksgiving holidays

[teal jackal]

Like mask off you don't respect me so I have no reason to give you respect either

[green pendant]

it was an incredibly awkward 95 second phone call lmao

[teal jackal]

Oh it's that short?

What do they even say

Anyways sorry to hear man

[green pendant]

blocked the number

[teal jackal]

I got rejected after behavioral screening before the on-site

[green pendant]

I think my recruiter wanted to say keep an eye out we post more opportunities but I cut him off and said thank you for the update

and disconnected

[meager latch]

Lmao

[teal jackal]

That sucks man

Sorry to hear

[late kestrel]

theyre lucky to even show up on a map

[livid yew]

you high brother

ok yes technically Epic is in Verona, which is just west of Madison, but even that has a population of 13,166

[frosty gale]

Hey

Madison is a nice city

[livid yew]

yes it is

[frosty gale]

They have some good breakfast places in downtown

I wanna eat cheese curds 🤤

[late kestrel]

cmon now i was joking

[livid yew]

I did not detect the joke

my bad

[digital osprey]

Hey for those who went through NG interview process this last year - was DP a common theme? Or more so other topics? Grinding out lc for the ng season and just wanted to prepare properly

[timber rock]

not uncommon ime

got it at expedia and bloomberg

[digital osprey]

I c I c, okay thanks!

[teal jackal]

I got DP for OAs

[digital osprey]

hmm yeah, those companies make sense. Got rejected at OA for a lot of those companies tbh, so grinding lc to prep for ng 😓

[late kestrel]

update your software techboy

[livid yew]

I need to download a new update damn

[timber rock]

join the dark side and just memorise the solutions for common dp questions without actually understanding how to do dp 😈

[livid yew]

my memory capacity is not high enough for that

and my memory clears itself every like 2 weeks

[late kestrel]

that seems like not a good idea

you should fix that

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

Memorize it enough and you learn it naturally

[timber rock]

pretty much

[livid yew]

wish my brain worked that way

need to train more

[late kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/halter-beyin-komik-brain-workout-gif-13417733

[livid yew]

[prime palm]

DP is uncommon IMO

I never bothered to learn it

Throughout my entire time doing intern and new grad recruiting

Most prominent is tree / graphs, array / string problems

Never even had a linked list problem either

[old smelt]

I've found that a lot of companies are doing API coding and OOD this year

Not a lot of LC

Debugging also very common for final rounds

[digital osprey]

that's kinda pog ngl - I'd take that over LC any day tbh

[jaunty basalt]

Just do the medium dp problems

[old smelt]

I agree, seems like LC is being used less and less thankfully

[frosty gale]

Fr

[timber rock]

yea i got this at optiver and some smaller companies

[livid yew]

Ood

[old smelt]

For API coding I had a lot of experience from prev internships.

OOD is pretty simple as well

Just following good practices

I've also found that interviewers like if u know the language well. So if ur using python, always type hint and try to use "pythonic" syntax

[fervent drift]

#2023_grad_process filled with Affirm rejects lmao they sent that shit out to everyone today?

[stable bear]

I guess they mass rejected

[ivory stratus]

merry christmas

[livid yew]

affirm DN

[west egret]

I don’t have affirm reject. I feel left out now.

I also have no idea if I even applied for it.

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[autumn ridge]

Flexport loves hybrid OOD/lc questions in my experience

[livid yew]

[autumn ridge]

I think the rub with DP is the time investment is better spent elsewhere depending on where your start point is.

Do for me this recruiting season was pretty prevalent I got asked DP for a lot of OAs and for rounds at Pinterest and Flexport live interviews.

[digital osprey]

yeah this is my thoughts too, I'm lacking in LC in general so I wanted to prioritize the more "important" topics than getting starting with DP.

But if DP was super prevalent - then I would've just had to grind everything from top to bottom lol

[dry salmon]

Dw

[autumn ridge]

Also a hack with DP once you get farther in your prep is if you know backtracking you can grok top down DP without too much overhead. I would completely ignore bottom up unless you are just out of topics to cover

[teal jackal]

youll be fine they dont care

[livid yew]

@teal jackal

[autumn ridge]

Employers don’t care and even ones that do only ask for 3.5 or up usually

[livid yew]

bruh

3.5 is tough

lmao

[teal jackal]

is there any case of a company actually rescinding after sending the transcript?

and the gradess are dogshit

[autumn ridge]

Depends on school lol my shitty state school is a joke

[teal jackal]

LOl

[livid yew]

at least for me, I am terrible at school related stuff

even if its super easy

I graduated with a 3.15

[autumn ridge]

Nah i think you did the right thing. You might never use the material from that class but if you ever need it you will be really thankful you took that class

[teal jackal]

while people get weeded out at first at my college, the intro classes being weeders is REALLY overstated and they aren't that bad, from there on out there's a lot of classes where they grade on completion(most classes are project based)

and a lot of classes scale

[autumn ridge]

Grad school peeps might be able to chime in. No difference imo for jobs

[livid yew]

I just basically just fucked up a bunch of final exams

which in some cases was worth 20-30% of the course grade

[teal jackal]

3.5GPA is nothing where I'm from

[livid yew]

yeah I am just a

@teal jackal why you no wave back

[autumn ridge]

My gpa got damaged this semester too. 3.8 to 3.6 thanks to math req

Class wasn’t even bad just didn’t really try bc i hate math

[livid yew]

I bet most of you are Asian, B is failing

[frosty gale]

I have 3.92 but my school gpa is inflated af

[livid yew]

sheesh

[autumn ridge]

Nah son cis white male in the house

[livid yew]

cis?

[autumn ridge]

How do you think i got a job

[livid yew]

oh straight

[autumn ridge]

Tbh i don’t know what cis means I’ve just heard it in reference to regular white guts

[livid yew]

sorry I am still learning the new gender terms, new one every day lmao

[frosty gale]

It’s a twitter lingo

[autumn ridge]

Yeah same lol

[livid yew]

Twitter

[autumn ridge]

That’s brutal lol

I’m nervous for my next semester i have OS and Networking. But like I just need D’s to graduate but still at least i will get to code a lot in OS

Even if it’s in god awful C

[teal jackal]

[livid yew]

cum laude

[teal jackal]

i just want cum on my diploma

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

[autumn ridge]

Got to grind for the cum

[livid yew]

United does not cancel my flight again

[autumn ridge]

It was carnage at the airport today

[livid yew]

Yeah my flight this morning at 11 got cancelled

so I re-booked for tomorrow at 4pm

[autumn ridge]

I just landed waiting for my ride but the storm fucked up so many peoples Christmas it was legit sad checking in bag hearing other people

[livid yew]

PHL

I rarely bother going up to EWR

although I would save some monies

[frosty gale]

EWR is garbo

[livid yew]

[frosty gale]

I hate that airport with passion

[livid yew]

yeah but its a cheap hub for United

[frosty gale]

Tru

[livid yew]

I rarely spend much time in the airport

I try to arrive 20min before boarding

Granted I have TSA Pre-check and am a United Premier Gold Member

[frosty gale]

Nice flex

[livid yew]

[quasi jackal]

Nice flex

[rain patio]

Oracle ghosted my scheduled recruiter call

[lament basin]

LC down for anyone

[quartz vale]

Delayed my graduation to do two more internship after new grad offer rescinded

I hope one of them will convert to full time offer

If not I will apply to new grad jobbb next year early

Offer rescinding really do mess me up

[teal jackal]

[tardy geode]

yeah

gotta go touch grass today and see what its like

[lament basin]

grass is not real

[tardy geode]

i am still struggling at LC , makes me cry

[tardy geode]

[lament basin]

its a fake myth created by LC grinders to reduce competition

dont be fooled brother

hop on lintcode

[livid yew]

tf is lintcode

[tardy geode]

[livid yew]

bootleg mf

[tardy geode]

its LC premium

CN version of LC

[lament basin]

just get google translate

[livid yew]

you know Chinese

[lament basin]

😈

[livid yew]

sheesh

[lament basin]

u dont need to

[livid yew]

good life skill

[lament basin]

just feel it out by intuition

[tardy geode]

is there any DSA course in Python?

ik DSA is language agnostic

but still

[lament basin]

python takes an L for not having a sorted dictionary

acc sadge

[coarse quiver]

it's sorted by default

[lament basin]

wat

no its not

then it would have LogN insert

[coarse quiver]

I mean sorted by insertion

[lament basin]

nah

thats ordered dict

im talking about sorted by key

[coarse quiver]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39980323/are-dictionaries-ordered-in-python-3-6

[livid yew]

ordered dick?

[lament basin]

c++ map uses a red/black tree

[timber rock]

just put sorted() around it

lol

[lament basin]

lmfao

thats nlogn each call

which works if u pre-process

but

if u need real time sorted order

it becomes N^2logn if u sort each time u need the order (for the whole array, assuming u sort each time)

and thats no dinero

[livid yew]

just use JavaScript

[worn seal]

Fidelity SWE LEAP program

[lament basin]

nah the answer is to do shit in c++

but im too lazy to learn c++20 standard

[livid yew]

I learn some C++ back in freshman year

then gave up on it

[lament basin]

if only

[coarse quiver]

I guess you want a sorted map in python

[lament basin]

python had a sortedcontainers built in collection

[lament basin]

yes

like treemap in java or std::map

[coarse quiver]

is it a common use case?

[lament basin]

no

thankfully

[nocturne oriole]

there is no lc problem or interview where you will be allowed to use a sorted dict

[lament basin]

there is

[coarse quiver]

In interviews, you can always assume you have access to a sorted set/sorted map

[nocturne oriole]

you can make a dict and then transform it into a sorted collection

[worn seal]

Fidelity SWE LEAP program. The feedback was my programming knowledge was good but lacked in networking tools.

If we want to further name and shame, it was a stupid 21 questions type of interview like he was reading off flashcards, not really about problem solving. My interviewer never started off asking the "tell me about yourself, why fidelity...." he just started asking questions off his sheet and hit a point he was like oh wait I need to see ur resume…. So he obviously didn’t care about the being there interviewing me.

Double sucks bc I was using this interview process for confidence and to feel better about myself about a few final round rejects from tech heavy companies earlier this semester (BB, G, Expedia), which now I guess I don’t even meet the banking bar… rip. And even worse when the HR person called to reject she stressed how entry level this position was so that made me feel like shit 😢

[lament basin]

ttl lru cache

[nocturne oriole]

or maintain ordering via some adjacent data structure

[livid yew]

Kirb

[nocturne oriole]

i REALLY don't think an interviewer will just let you import a sorted dict

i just don't

[lament basin]

u can possibly do it with heap

[coarse quiver]

why are fulltimers in the ng channel

[nocturne oriole]

or they will handwave away that possibility

[livid yew]

[lament basin]

krib is my zuck brother who survived

[nocturne oriole]

[coarse quiver]

[lament basin]

u lived brother

[livid yew]

hey this is yak's emote

[nocturne oriole]

metamates died so others could live

[livid yew]

cant steal that

[nocturne oriole]

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

[lament basin]

we watch over you in heaven

[coarse quiver]

@pulsar mural

[lament basin]

wait

not u

[livid yew]

huh

[lament basin]

we watch over u in heaven

[livid yew]

?

[lament basin]

ignore, was talking to kirb

[livid yew]

[coarse quiver]

mr techie, how is the grind going?

are you going to promote soon?

[nocturne oriole]

My understanding was that they are uncommon enough across languages or new-ish features that a lot of interviewers will just say "ok assume you don't have it"

[livid yew]

I am not grinding rn

is holiday break

[lament basin]

there is a module

for python

sortedcontainers

[coarse quiver]

really?

[livid yew]

but yeah I think Promo within 4 months

[nocturne oriole]

I know they exist, i'm just pretneding to talk to you as a hardass interviewer

[livid yew]

maybe interviewers should stop being hard-ass

[lament basin]

if ur a hardass interviewer

[livid yew]

like why

[lament basin]

i will

implement

[nocturne oriole]

i always see this in lc discuss forums lol when somebody tries using built-in sorted dict
"bro they won't let you do this"

[lament basin]

red black tree

in the interview

😈

[coarse quiver]

I would say it's a tiny minority unless the problem is to reimplement the underlying data-structure

[lament basin]

and assert dominance

[livid yew]

@pulsar mural

why are you awake

time for bed

[nocturne oriole]

https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/collections/struct.BTreeMap.html

[coarse quiver]

do you guys know how a sorted set is implemented?

[lament basin]

there's really only one problem i've encountered where u need a sorted dict

to actually have short code thats somewhat optimal

[teal jackal]

its the companys fault this time

not yours

[lament basin]

balanced tree

i think

[coarse quiver]

I've encountered multiple problems requiring a sorted set for an optimal solution, but it's like around 1-2% of problems

[lament basin]

if its small numbers

u can just create array

[coarse quiver]

iirc, you implement it with an AVL-tree/BST of arrays

[lament basin]

where each index maps to element

[lament basin]

not avl

[coarse quiver]

[lament basin]

avl performance not good

red/black better

cuz its not fully balanced

so its faster

[nocturne oriole]

non trivial, read that linked rust tree data structure, i am too dumb

[lament basin]

cuz u dont have to re-balance each time per-se

[worn seal]

ty i needed that, really unsure whats going to be left when Jan starts

[nocturne oriole]

implementing a b tree in school is prob not even close to real production

[lament basin]

oh ya i was joking i would never try to implement a damn balanced tree in interview

[nocturne oriole]

cuz i think it's optimal for small data sets

[coarse quiver]

B-trees

I know B-trees are used a lot in multiple Databases

[coarse quiver]

I heard Jane Street used to ask this in an interview

[lament basin]

JS asks some fucked stuff

they asked me LC hard with some insane follow up

[coarse quiver]

you can find the problem on LC?

[lament basin]

yea

but NDA

:/

[coarse quiver]

I understand

what pattern?

if you can share

[lament basin]

tree

[livid yew]

tbh is rare they enforce those

I will tell you about a new redacted coming out redacted, its about redacted and redacted

[coarse quiver]

The worst is to get blacklisted by the firm I guess

[livid yew]

firm? oh trading stuffd

yeah fuck that field

not for me

[coarse quiver]

I mean companies in general

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural pls confirm u received my message here

[livid yew]

[tardy geode]

anyone?

[robust kettle]

MIT's opencourseware is in python

their intro to DSA, not sure about their other DSA

[pulsar mural]

\

[rigid quail]

@pulsar mural what are you getting everyone for christmas

[livid yew]

[shut crescent]

how much should a data engineer offer be for a top 150 company?

in cali near by area

[timber rock]

how do you even define the top 150 lol

[jaunty basalt]

Tier lists don’t even include 150 companies

[tardy geode]

any good tutorials for learning golang from scratch?

[solemn tinsel]

https://go.dev/tour/list

[tardy geode]

ty

[sage skiff]

Anyone did fidelity leap (not interview process) ?

[tawdry skiff]

@pulsar mural

[tawdry skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUIZYzxtMQs

it finally happened

[pure mauve]

Bruh how am I completely acing interviews and asking good questions

And I’m still getting rej

Fk hdc and this recruiting season

Fk headcount

[timber rock]

same

Legit had a company tell me I was in the top 10 out of over 1.2k candidates but sorry we're only hiring 4 people

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural did u tell pachiti

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural EL PACHITI

[shut crescent]

what do you mean by sus?

[robust kettle]

what do you mean by top 150? unless you're talking about from the f500

and there's no general metric

[teal jackal]

Kia, goated automaker

[dim pulsar]

sounds like a newbie question but I am one... what would yall do different if you were a freshman in college rn 🤔? which languages would you prefer to learn?

💀💀💀💀

is dis for real

to understand CS better or to just switch ??

hmmm which type like calculus or probability?

our uni is teaching C++ and Java

I guess am on the right path

hmm interesting 🤔

yea I was learning python and half way through someone told me to just.... not ?

[whole roost]

Pick a popular language and become proficient in it. Not just to the level of being able to complete assignments but actual, full-fledged projects from scratch (start with small projects and build up ofc).

Also as soon as you finish your first data structures & algorithms course, start Leetcoding. It's much better to be prepared for interviews ahead of time so you're not floundering during courses + internship search.

Also look into the early degree opportunities the big tech companies offer (Microsoft aspire, FB university, Google STEP etc.). It's an easier way to break into FAANG early

[dim pulsar]

yea I was told that leetcoding early is important so I'll definitely keep an eye out for that one

also what's an early degree opportunity?? I sound like a noob I kn

do companies higher you while your in college???

hire*

ohhhh okok

[elder oasis]

last year they’ll hire while in college

technically

that’s wild

[dim pulsar]

dang I'll look into it more

[whole roost]

the LC tends to be easier than what they ask juniors/seniors as well

Defs get comfortable with mediums tho

Based and fraud pilled

@dim pulsar Oh also this is more lifestyle advice but incorporate healthy habits. You want to maximize mental + physical health because it'll give you a big boost in the grind.

Good sleep, diet, exercise and meditation (if so inclined but defs the first three)

[dim pulsar]

I'll keep that in my head, already go to the gym but I'll incorporate the others into my daily as well

[whole roost]

Good luck on the grind my friend

[dim pulsar]

thanks friend 😌🫂

[split plaza]

background check though

[finite stone]

anyone have experience with starlink beam test

[elder oasis]

dm me

[marsh sand]

Phone

[cold fractal]

Anyone do the Tiktok OA?

[dim pulsar]

pause amazon portal??

what's that 🤔

and faking graduation date, as in just applying when in junior year... is it possible to have that much expirence with language and programming to apply to confidently ?

hmm I'll keep this in mind better get on the leetcode ig 🤔

[nocturne seal]

150 is low for Bay Area right

[meager latch]

It’s low for FAANG+, but probably slightly above the median

[swift bobcat]

how long do u guys wait before sending a follow up email after an interview

[meager latch]

At least a week

[eternal mortar]

which one of you fuckers is this

[graceful bison]

What shall we expect in Problem Solving Interview for Walmart SDE Full time?

[pure mauve]

LMFAOO

[fervent drift]

me

[prime palm]

Wouldn't do much I think

I actually graduated this December but im doing an internship this January before starting FT in May

My BGC cleared

[fossil jewel]

i think for grad date, unless you actually got the degree, you can easily just fake

for my school you had to submit an application for graduation and if you didnt, you can either just enroll in classes or can apply for grad in the next group

[prime palm]

Yeah extra cash + it's remote so more time in canada before I have to move to usa

[forest aspen]

does anyone know if square has any entry level positions?

[chilly burrow]

not atm

[prime palm]

Not doing new grad but said upon successful completion of an internship I could come back as a new grad end of this year or something

So you basically need to be grandfathered in

(I've already signed new grad so I won't be accepting square's potential new grad offer)

[marsh sand]

Guys whats bloomberg onsite like

Just 2 x 2 x lc?

[karmic harness]

Round 1 or round 2

[whole roost]

so the HC isn't full?

[nocturne oriole]

I thought that was gonna say 2 x 2 x 2

Like the pancakes combo from IHOP

[marsh sand]

Not for London at least

[rain patio]

Networking tools?

[grizzled bronze]

That's dumb, the Fidelity job description doesn't mention networking tools knowledge required anywhere, besides we can pick up that on the job. And I hate those types of interviews too where they rapid fire ask you trivia type questions. Don't let that discourage you though, some interviewers just suck.

[whole roost]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-gülmek-gülünç-kahkaha-laughing-gif-20291156

[sand thistle]

Hello everyone. I'm moving to Princeton (08540) for work from January 2023 to May 2023. I'm looking for a place under $1000 a month. I'm open to sharing the apartment or room with another girl. Please let me know if you're subletting your apartment or know anyone who's looking for a roommate in this area. I would really appreciate any help. Please DM.

[nocturne oriole]

I’m assuming if u were able to find some Princeton based server, maybe another comp sci server, u could put word out better

Idk if any of the Locations channels will help

[sand thistle]

Any Princeton based server links?

[late kestrel]

i got rejected early october for full hc. and then oct 19th i got texted by a recruiter asking if i was still interested

i said no bc i already had an offer but idk if that was bc of enough renegs or not enough offers accepted or added hc

who knows

[grizzled bronze]

Fidelity made me feel special when they texted me

[grizzled bronze]

No that was in the past, I told them to close my app and remove me from consideration

[tender sluice]

Any hope to get a job by april folks?

[whole roost]

There is no hope

Only the joy of the eternal grind

[chilly burrow]

Yes

I think/pray some companies will open up new grad opportunities by Jan

Because they will have a better idea of new grad head count

[grizzled bronze]

I'm counting on it, it should happen at some companies at least

[obtuse solstice]

lol no entry level jobs at mang?

[chilly burrow]

Not really

A few, but there's such little headcount

[obtuse solstice]

can you share example

i did not manage to find anything

entry leve;

or university graduate

[chilly burrow]

https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs/233368385

Tbh this may b da only 1

[tardy geode]

Has anyone worked with PySpark? If yes then is there some pre-req to learn it?

[livid yew]

Yep they will re count all teams and see openings tbh

[green pendant]

I hope this actually happens and isn't just hopium

[rigid quail]

it makes sense who knows if companies will follow through

[green pendant]

yeah but I can already see nothing changing in January tbh. the only thing that will happen is that companies that paused for the break will pick back up

what about smaller companies that never opened

[rigid quail]

unless you were waitlisted most HR departments aren’t organized to keep a backlog

they just put a job posting up and you’ll probably have to reapply

[tardy geode]

does having work experience have an edge in the current market?

[robust kettle]

has an edge in every market, the only really bad off people are the ones with under 3 yoe or so i think

[wheat seal]

2 years is fine

Plenty of swe jobs for mid level starting at 2 years

I think 1 year experience is the toughest spot

[plush lily]

I did, for 3 months,

I would say you will be fine

As prereq, Python and some concepts of datasets, apache spark architecture, and of course, databases queries

If you don't know python you can do the same stuff and maybe even more with Scala

[ancient raft]

Any one got Zoom Resume screening call?

[green pendant]

damn pls teach me this art

really? in my experience at least background checks don't take THAT long

there might be some exceptions but for the vast majority of people it should be fast enough

interviewing probably takes way more time in most cases

[prime palm]

I mean someone trying to find a job with 1 prior internship is better off than someone with 0

[tardy geode]

I am good in python , have sound knowledge of SQL . would that be suffice?

[fossil jewel]

knowing lambda functions with python is pretty helpful too

and things like maps, filters, flatmaps

bit of functional programming

[tardy geode]

gotcha

ty @fossil jewel and @plush lily

[clever orbit]

Anyone know anythin about palantir product reliablity engineer new grad process?

[chilly burrow]

It's not abt them increasing headcount per se

A lot of companies didn't hire ng at all this year

And ppl hope/think that by next year they'll get a better idea of potential head count so will allocate some spots for new grad

Ex. Airbnb, Dropbox

[frank wedge]

Airbnb had new grad

[chilly burrow]

They did?

I wasnt aware of it then lol

[frank wedge]

Well I’m not going to say they’re finished all hiring but they had apps up in May

[thick grail]

does anyone know if walmart does drug tests, especially for the bentonville location 💀

[frank wedge]

I received response in august I think

[chilly burrow]

In May? Goddamn thats early.

[frank wedge]

Yeah. Seemed limited, I declined though

[chilly burrow]

I went to an event in Sept

Where an Airbnb rep said they'd open apps in late Sept

So I thought they just never opened

[marsh sand]

Merry Christmas from London!

[livid yew]

[timber rock]

merry christmas from edinburgh 😏

may santa bring you all many offers

[livid yew]

Where is Edinburgh

Is that UK

[late kestrel]

google.com

[grizzled bronze]

<@&868936794601828492>

<@&705857085836886067>

[waxen kayak]

Ty

[rain patio]

SANTA ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A GF

[rain patio]

Girlfriend > google & Facebook

I can do cute things with gf

[nocturne oriole]

[teal jackal]

Merry Christmas

[dusky lark]

Merry Christmas

[wary birch]

https://tenor.com/view/wah-pleading-emoji-emoji-plush-cry-gif-26365472

[tardy geode]

Merry Christmas

[prime palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdpnOZt-PmE&ab_channel=FryingPan

this is the most devastating thing i've ever heard

fb intern -> got a return offer (only like 10% of interns did) -> it got rescinded

[pure mauve]

Worst part is the timing esp now

[prime palm]

dude recruiting season is alr over

[pure mauve]

Nobody hiring anymore p much

[prime palm]

or like 98% done

☠️

[pure mauve]

Is there any 1 percent hiring

[prime palm]

i honestly have no idea

i've run dry

i passed literally the last interview i had

and since then, no one has reached out to me for more interviews

like i thought optimistically i'd get someone emailing me for an interview to which i would decline but literally i'm dry

[pure mauve]

Same I failed everything including finals

[prime palm]

thankfully i already graduated

i couldn't imagine school on top of all this bs

[pure mauve]

only last hope is waiting to hear back from 1 place

[prime palm]

bloom?

[pure mauve]

Nah a gov job

[prime palm]

good luck man

i hope it all works out

[pure mauve]

I’ve literally aced all my interviews

[rigid quail]

enjoy your christmas people it will get better

[pure mauve]

And still got rejected everywhere

[prime palm]

yeah jan/feb more wil open up

[white escarp]

Even in canada? I just hope they wont layoff more lol

[livid yew]

Merry Christmas everyone

Prayge you get offers in 2023

[old vector]

How many other people are in your new grad class?

[static moth]

no fuckin way meta rescinded the GE returns bruh

actual rip

[foggy perch]

you can do plenty of cute things with money

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-mcduck-ducktales-diving-money-coins-gif-7883464

[prime palm]

for the offer i signed?

or like

school graduation class

[tardy geode]

i am now seriously considering contract jobs to stop my unemployment days post graduation if i don’t get anything .

[plush lily]

Happy Christmas ⛄ 🎄

[wheat seal]

Idt it’s all

Maybe it depends on how critical the org is

Or is it all?

[static moth]

🤷‍♂️

[old vector]

For ramp

[wheat seal]

I mean majority of hiring happens in fall and spring

It’ll be slow til feb

[whole roost]

maybe due to his YT channel then?

For sure, sucks either way

[wheat seal]

Oh okay. Why would he make a YouTube video to give everyone a scare though ?

[whole roost]

$$$

[wheat seal]

Yea that’s fair

[grizzled bronze]

Can you share what that message was?

[grizzled bronze]

He said "there's more to this story" that he'll reveal in the future. Wouldn't surprise me if Meta saw something in his YouTube channel they didn't like and rescinded it because of that.

[nocturne oriole]

Let’s not push for this just out of respect for privacy etc

but yeah for any meta interns reading this was one-off

[nocturne oriole]

There’s a lot of haters online who will throw others under the bus

[tawdry skiff]

Yall

Touch grass

Happy Holidays

[nocturne oriole]

It’s why i havent wanted to self dox either despite the clout boost for handsome + good mod + kirb350 creator

[wheat seal]

Yea I definitely wouldn’t give up my own business

[whole roost]

Can't, it's buried under the snow

[teal jackal]

Yeah you should

Gotta stay employed and maintain legal presence somehow

[timber rock]

i think he had a coinbase return offer iirc

but that was a while ago maybe he rejected for meta

[foggy perch]

is coinbase still alive

i would've thought crypto crash + ftx fail to kill it

[prime palm]

They're staying afloat

Did they mad layoffs earlier this year

I'm surprised robinhood is alive

[foggy perch]

same

[prime palm]

Wish is practically on life support

[livid yew]

AliExpress better than wish tbh

For shopping not jobs

[dire yarrow]

@pulsar mural

[dire yarrow]

You are everywhere

[livid yew]

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural

[lament basin]

is this gonna be a good week

or a donowall week

[grizzled bronze]

It can be if you want it to

[lament basin]

need a good week

[grizzled bronze]

After New Years

[lament basin]

need a good life

however

this week needs to be very good

[livid yew]

Interview this quick into new year? Absolute Chad

[lament basin]

yeah

and

well

i need to hear back from a place

im hoping they'll get back to me this week

[livid yew]

I doubt it tbh @lament basin

With the holidays, basically everyone is not working this week

[lament basin]

you’d be surprised

[green pendant]

thing is people might work but it'd probably be low productivity and also understaffed workforce

but yeah regardless good luck this week

who are you expecting to hear back from btw

[grizzled bronze]

My cold emails are scheduled for January 3 to account for the holidays

[lament basin]

patreon

[lament basin]

it's fine

in fact

it shows you're able to discover and fix bugs on your own

which is a valuable datapoint in an interview

i highly doubt you're expected to write bug-free code in one go without ever running your code

[teal jackal]

Everyone on vacation man

Sorry

Gonna be a dry week

[lament basin]

nah i think one email will slide thru

[loud sphinx]

Renege MSFT for google?

[grizzled bronze]

I would choose based on whichever team you're interested in more

if you have that info

[loud sphinx]

Yeah I’m a return intern for both

I liked google much better

Just don’t wanna renege

[grizzled bronze]

It's not a bad thing to renege, gotta look out for yourself

Just ask ChatGPT to write you a renege letter and send it

[loud sphinx]

Yeah ig im not too keen on burning bridges with MSFT

[grizzled bronze]

I feel that's a risk worth taking, since you like Google much better

You might still be accepted back later on in Microsoft still

[loud sphinx]

True

[lament basin]

is google safe

don’t get zucked

[distant rampart]

Everyone got zucked 😭

[lament basin]

it do be like that

[sweet urchin]

you should be safe, but from what I've heard, they've really hunkered down and the WLB is not nearly what it used to be. Its actually a grind now, more similar to that of meta in terms of work

[livid yew]

[sonic coral]

Important to remember this is a company with 100k+ employees so not everyone’s experience is the same

Team / manager do matter

[teal jackal]

I mean everyone wants to underachieve while earning more than they deserve

It's nice tbh

Those days coming to a close soon

[timber rock]

doubt it

[vital meteor]

Did you already get G offer?

[coarse quiver]

Copium

[sweet urchin]

This is information coming from someone who works there lol

This seems incredibly overaggressive for no reason lol

[livid yew]

Sorry

Gone poof

[whole roost]

I know what you did

[timber rock]

i have heard it can be bad if you're on an important product

but chill if youre not

like look at boyalgo on yt, moved from amazon to google and hates it, says amazon was way more chill and easier work

very team dependent as always

[livid yew]

Yep team/project

[quasi jackal]

[coarse quiver]

I interned there 2weeks ago

Switzerland not us tho

[lament basin]

wtf switzerland

pog

highest salary outside the usa

[scenic mason]

Not true at all, WLB has remained the same for most teams

[green pendant]

it's incredibly beautiful but I wonder how daily life must be there

like as a tourist it felt borderline heavenly but I can't imagine living outside of Zurich maybe

[lament basin]

i would pull up and work there

the only issue is

i don’t think people speak english there

the languages there are what french german italian

[crystal delta]

is switzerland col pretty reasonable

[timber rock]

it's very expensive

[frosty gale]

Hella expensive. Bermuda > Swiss > US in terms of major cities col

[teal jackal]

shii
wisdom teeth grow so quickly
they started coming out last august
i might need to get them removed soon

[lone copper]

"SWE applicant @Netflix" wtf

[west egret]

Ex-FANG Applicant

[balmy mist]

sorry, saw that message and decided to try it

chatgpt is insane

[teal jackal]

You NEVER mention that you're reneging for someone else

I just say unforeseen personal reasons

I guess a good excuse I came up with (for companies with mandatory in person work) is that I have obligations at home now preventing me from moving to the new city

[teal jackal]

Chatgpt is good

God damn

Pretty good but I would probably not mention prestige

[balmy mist]

pretty interesting

I wonder if chatGPT could take two offers and make a recommendation on which one to take

[coarse quiver]

I bet chat gpt would bring RSUs appreciation in the result

[eternal hatch]

What companies are hiring rn? 🥶🥶

[quasi jackal]

lmao these chatgpt results r so good

[plush lily]

I mean when they reject you they let you know that they are moving forward with other interviewees

[teal jackal]

its just a way to say you were rejected without saying you were rejected

usually youre not in direct competition with the other candidates anyways

for new grad apps, saying that they moved forward with other candidates is such a lazy way to not say you were rejected

anyways I just can't stand fake positivity

like if you want to reject me then just say it

[dusky lark]

Folks I was stuck with a MapBox geofencing part for almost a month and I just asked chatGPT and it literally created a custom one that fixes what I exactly need

[nocturne oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567163483439890433/1039592214420004904/D59B692B-8797-490B-87BE-888BF7FC0F72.gif

[grizzled bronze]

I agree, right!

[coarse quiver]

200iq arguments

[split plaza]

damn thanks for G referral link

[teal jackal]

my reaction to that information

[foggy perch]

Damn admins so toxic, doxxing everyone ever born smh

[late kestrel]

cant fool me, im using dark dark mode

[bright pewter]

That actually tricked me

Why is this an gif for trolling people on discord 💀

[quasi jackal]

that offer isnt bad, would try to reneg

[teal jackal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567163483439890433/1039592214420004904/D59B692B-8797-490B-87BE-888BF7FC0F72.gif

[dapper hinge]

Sand on the beach

[rain patio]

Hey guys, anyone know some companies hiring for Masters non CS jobs?

[vital vault]

Someone should try this with ChatGPT: “I recently got an auto-generated rejection email from a company after an ordeal of interviewing experience, help me write an email to tell them to screw themselves!”

[grizzled bronze]

I would do that, but I don't wanna lose my respect with ChatGPT

[leaden oak]

I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with this company. It can be frustrating and disappointing to be rejected after investing time and effort in the job application process. However, it is generally not a good idea to send an angry or disrespectful email in response to a rejection. This can damage your professional reputation and make it more difficult for you to find opportunities in the future.

Instead of expressing anger or frustration, you may want to consider using this as an opportunity to learn and grow. You could ask for feedback on your application or interview performance, or consider seeking out other job opportunities that align more closely with your goals and strengths.

It's understandable to feel upset after a rejection, but it's important to remember that the job search process often involves setbacks and disappointments. By staying positive and proactive, you can increase your chances of finding a job that is a good fit for you.

[grizzled bronze]

ChatGPT is secretly judging us with the questions we ask

👀

[vital vault]

Who needs a therapist anymore now that we have ChatGPT!

[grizzled bronze]

RIP BetterHelp

[green pendant]

how valid is it to use chatgpt to answer "why do you want to work at.." type questions?

I wonder if they can figure out it was written by AI

[nocturne oriole]

Tbh prob would be good

But u would need to feed it context

Like what the company is about

[sonic coral]

Just look at a company’s culture page and come up with some bs reasons relating to that rather than relying on chatgpt lol

[nocturne oriole]

[coarse quiver]

ChatGPT is a pure W for cover letters. I guess it's the same for "why do you want to work at.."

[grizzled bronze]

But when you're mass applying it's more efficient using ChatGPT

[green pendant]

Yeah so I figured chatgpt can take company names + a few values + a few things about me/my background and it can generate a pretty solid answer. Only thing is I wonder if companies can tell this was written by AI.

[grizzled bronze]

They can't

[coarse quiver]

I highly doubt. Unless openai sells your history to the company

[grizzled bronze]

No interviewer is gonna examine it that deep

[coarse quiver]

I would guess tho companies are more suspicious now

[nocturne oriole]

bro there is actually something that does exactly this
it takes in your character as input and returns output

it's called

the human brain

🧠

THE ULTIMATE TURING MACHINE

[green pendant]

Too bad mine got damaged in this economy

[grizzled bronze]

ChatGPT is gonna save me in behavioral interviews. I don't need it, but it saves me time from having to make up BS answers on my own for behavioral scenarios I never faced.

[nocturne oriole]

ChatGPT is gonna save me in first dates. I don't need it, but it saves me time from having to make up BS answers on my own for behavioral scenarios I never faced.

[shut crescent]

anyone receive their offers yet?

im trying to figure out what the "right" pay for a data engineer out in san jose ca is

[shut crescent]

yeah chatgpt is insane, i used it to finish up some of my tasks today lmao just random parsing bullshit

[quasi jackal]

[west egret]

Highly dependent on the company

Use levels.fyi if it’s on there and google if not

[fossil jewel]

some companies put data engineering with swe

it’s more of backend dev

[pastel bane]

what do you think of going from a consulting firm to a software development job? is it beneficial for my resume?
if I want to be a SWE, considering I cant get into FAANG atm, should I go to a bigger and more famous consulting firm, or a smaller IT startup?

[silk sinew]

Sure

[pastel bane]

yeah it is literally a no-name company

a (web3) startup under 10 people

[pastel bane]

I never want to work in an insurance company or a bank as a software engineer

[pastel bane]

there are digital consultants, but still not very technical

Accenture maybe atm

[pastel bane]

I think there are software development in building Dapps, Im learning React currently

[rain patio]

anyone here planning to be in the bay area this upcoming summer?

[tulip pilot]

hello everyone! does anyone know when is the best time to start applying for new grad if I anticipate on graduating in Fall 2023?

[quasi jackal]

i vote consulting

[teal jackal]

web3 is a meme since blockchain is inherently clunky as hell

[pastel bane]

meme field
you really think so?

[green pendant]

might be copium but is it normal for recruiters to have radio silence this week? my interviewer (DRW) told me I'll be moving forward last week but idk anymore

[timber rock]

yeah very normal

just had an interview today cancelled this morning cause she took the week off lol

[pure plank]

Anyone got offer from Barclays? Any idea how much time they take for the offer letter??

[south cipher]

Will there be postings in Jan-Feb for new grads graduating in May? I have nothing in hand. How worried should I be? 😭

[crystal delta]

no one knows, but next most likely time for opportunities will be in jan

[frozen cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-gif-23699337

[quasi jackal]

Eh I got my job applying around that time and got a job beginning of April

Not close at all

[timber rock]

leetcode down. please hold me

just finished merge k sorted lists

[tardy geode]

is LC down or somethin?

[tardy geode]

[lament basin]

ya

LC is down

fuck

back to lintcode i go

[tardy geode]

back to bed

[lament basin]

do not give up

[tardy geode]

lintcode

what if google translate is down 💀

looked at the mirror and asked my self will i even get something by summer 2023

it went down>

*>

[nocturne oriole]

logarithmicExploration.dev

[tardy geode]

codeforces FTW 💀

[lament basin]

dmoj.ca

solve IOI problems

[split plaza]

<@&868936794601828492>

[fossil jewel]

I will teach you how to earn 90k in just 30 hours

all i ask is some food

i lost 190k

[split plaza]

yea msg deleted

[fossil jewel]

[rain patio]

[unique swan]

Is an offer for 85k at a tech startup in TX good in this time?

With visa sponsorship

[coarse quiver]

Why wouldn't it be?

[teal jackal]

Nbd

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah that’s a very good mid tier base salary in texas. As long as it’s not some super omega sus or crypto startup

Even if it is, take any offer, get the bag

Literally fire. It is hot 🥵

They are because they’re all going to disappear and they are scams but u can join, cash out and leave somebody else holding the bag

To me that is what tech is all about

[sonic coral]

Isn’t it getting cold as shit

There was a day a few weeks ago where it was colder than ny

[coarse quiver]

How is the grind going?

Are you prepping for your next opportunity?

[tawdry skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/homecoming-tina-belcher-gif-6112610

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-and-grind-gif-21005026

did i stutter

rise and grind bitches

[timber rock]

leetcode waits for no man

[jaunty basalt]

whats ur bryson setup

[quasi jackal]

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/chungha-kim-chungha-kpop-korean-singer-cute-gif-16521283

bro ive never played warzone lmao

[jaunty basalt]

bro bryson in wz is so funny

[rain patio]

and theres no armor in multiplayer

[jaunty basalt]

yeah ik

it one shots still

[rain patio]

[jaunty basalt]

but like in wz it was so aweful

like u can try so hard to knock and then they look at you once and then ur down

bro its actually hilarious

idk how to tune this, i doubt it matters, i just need distance

[rain patio]

damn

nice camo

[jaunty basalt]

glitched

[rain patio]

thats a sweaty tryhard class lmao

battle rage and dead silence

[jaunty basalt]

exactly

nah

its ddos

i need score

i dont use battle rage, animation takes too long before i die

plus i get flashed lol

if there was that wz glitch with infinite dead silence and battle rage you know im spamming it

[rain patio]

[jaunty basalt]

no but i glitched the guns

lmao

[rain patio]

tf

[jaunty basalt]

i cant use the m13 though

i need to actually play

i couldnt figure out how to get around that

their front end devs need help lol

you get the one on the left from dmz, except i never queued for dmz

^ this one is for wz, taqv 2 shots but its bouncy

[livid yew]

[coarse quiver]

Are you not reading math and quant books?

[peak ferry]

+spouse +home +racist family?

all I see is complete victory

[spark bay]

So what’s the meta for applying for new grad cs jobs for someone who doesn’t want to tryhard? (Aka graduate spring 2023, grind summer 2023, job offer by fall/winter 2023)

[timber rock]

i don't think that's really a good idea, you'll have missed out on most new grad positions if you wait that long

[teal jackal]

Defense contractors, local companies, banks/boomer finance/f500, talk to friends and family and family friends

I'd especially emphasize talking to connections at local companies

[spark bay]

I haven’t done a traditional cs degree so for example I just finished my Data Structures, Algorithms, and Computer Systems classes. I haven’t had an internship. I figure I’ll be too be next semester to seriously leet code. Don’t companies hire for zero experience roles year round? (For non-traditional/boot campers) Or is there a distinct advantage in applying for new grad roles that advertise themselves as such?

[spark bay]

“Boomer finance” haha good one

[quasi jackal]

I am boomer finance

[nocturne seal]

I have palantir on-site next week

And I’ve been dealing with severe procrastination

[peak ferry]

Don’t companies hire for zero experience roles year round? (For non-traditional/boot campers) Or is there a distinct advantage in applying for new grad roles that advertise themselves as such?

Not all companies hire year round, varies idk the details of who hires when. Most of the super big tech giants hired year round, but they're also not hiring at all right now

Many zero experience roles will tend to be labeled "new grad" or "campus" or something like that, which may or may not be advertised year round. Job I started a few months ago was listed sometime in the early fall as a '23 new grad role. ime most companies will consider you a "new grad" within 12 mo of graduation. one company rejected me specifically for being a '23 grad, otherwise none filtered me based on that, as far as I know. I did get asked a few times what I did between graduation and looking for work.

afaik fb/google/amazon hired year round in the past

not sure what pattern there is for companies that do specific recruiting cycles, maybe trading firms

I had interview rounds with all of em off cycle

for ng

wdym

isn't june uh != aug/sept

I mean they do a recruiter screen or w/e but no it wasn't scheduling stuff for later

[ivory stratus]

Ok question for people

Im doing an apprenticeship/internship kind if thing with Hawaiian Airlines where they can hire me anytime during it this coming semester. The pay for new grad is $70k. Would you guys be looking for new grad stuff for next recruiting cycle or should i stay there and get some YOE before moving companies

[peak ferry]

I had a Google phone technical screen done in june, which I passed and then got ghosted because freeze, otherwise it would have been onsites scheduled asap.

amazon had onsites scheduled for july which I intentionally delayed and then never did cuz i didn't want to lmao

facebook reached out in late december, and I was too lazy to do it, so I ignored it until they froze hiring

big tech not it rn, js historically I'm p sure they didn't have an issue with recruiting year round. some random places I don't remember exactly did the whole start recruiting for ng in fall shebang. (+trading which seems to actually do the recruiting in fall for limited spots type deal)

[peak ferry]

definitely not but I also didn't do off season interns

they are 100% not as common tho

[spark bay]

Well yes I agree if I had done the traditional cs degree I would have started to grind leetcode/ apply for jobs before the summer was over and also had some runway with maybe other internships. I’m definitely not concerned with optimizing my life so I’m more asking this in the sense of given my situation: now what?

[spark bay]

Ohhhh so you graduated spring 2021 but didn’t get an offer until summer 2022? What were you doing that whole time? Grinding leetcode and applying? Send me a friend request I’m interested in hearing your full story

[misty fable]

job search very rough

pensive emote

[split stream]

Anybody got a hackerrank from Texas instruments

[spark bay]

Ohhh I see. Well as someone on a similar timeline (if different experience) your story still let’s me know I won’t be facing closed doors automatically and gives me some practical advice on how to proceed.

[cyan cosmos]

does anyone know if tc for fidelity leap program is negotiable?

[marsh sand]

How do I get started on decomp/sysdesign?

Just start reading grokking from educative io?

[south cipher]

is that free?

[marsh sand]

Noope 7 day free trial i believe

[south cipher]

what is decomp?

[crude saffron]

uhhhh

[crude saffron]

i could've made so much from user funds

[marsh sand]

Palantir's own version of Systems Design

[foggy perch]

no one knows

people can argue yes there will be because companies are more knowledgeable about how much to hire during the official recession

people can argue no because it's a recession

[marsh sand]

Hence it'll be a mix of both 😉

[whole roost]

just keep grinding that's all we can do

[outer radish]

markets fuCKED guys

[livid yew]

Well it is a holiday week

So assume everything is closed/freezed

[timber rock]

yea they are mostly just on break

had a lot of emails saying nothing is moving forward until january, and interviews cancelled and stuff

[restive holly]

has anyone received peak6 oa and later advanced to next round without passing all test cases?

[timber rock]

[chilly burrow]

New Grad postings just dropped in #grad_postings_old !

[rain patio]

should a graduate a semester early? i could graduate a semester early because i will barely have anything to do during the spring semester but i’m worried about how much more difficult it will be in landing a full time job if i graduate early

[chilly burrow]

Job market for new grads is tough

Although graduating now rather than in Spring does help you save money on tuition

And either way you'd be classified as a 2023 grad

[rain patio]

so would it even matter when i graduated then?

[chilly burrow]

Afaik no, but I'm not 100%

[split plaza]

thoughts on Parafin

[solemn tinsel]

they seem pretty hype

if only I didn't get rejected welp

[split plaza]

anything noteworthy/out of the ordinary with their process

[fervent fern]

do they hire new grads?

[split plaza]

yes

[solemn tinsel]

the phone round is pretty easy

the final round has an API design round (for backend)

which was challenging imo

[split plaza]

interesting

[weary flax]

guys is it worth applying on the simplify website

instead of the company website itself?

[grizzled bronze]

It doesn't matter, either one will have you applying through the company's page

[tribal moss]

When did you apply to parafin?

[spark bay]

I’ve always been told it’s better to graduate in the winter cause you can come straight onboard through the spring while most of the new grad pool can’t start until the spring / summer. And even you take the typical amount of time for a job search you’ll have started the process earlier, get a job earlier and start making money earlier than you would have if you had graduated later. Not to mention the tuition money you save.

[solemn tinsel]

A few months ago

[tribal moss]

oh dam I thought they just came out D;

[solemn tinsel]

Yea they basically did so I wouldn’t worry

I probs only got interview bc of referral

[tribal moss]

o i see

thx for the info

[lament summit]

hi

[fresh lagoon]

hi

[dense seal]

no

[livid yew]

Yes

[silk ermine]

Do u know if the DE shaw intern and new grad process is different?

[marsh sand]

Hi Pan 🙂

[silk ermine]

yo