#2023_grads
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yo out out of curiosity, how did it go
bruh this is one of the worst things ever
i hope your other offer doesnt falter

same, now i need to do well on my remaining two interviews so i have backups for my backup lmao

i have no offers , international and all of these things happening. i am getting a rush of stress , anxiety and bad nightmaresšidk how to cope and stay sane
your new grad start date?
ya
FAAKKKKKK
I thought interns have an edge but apparently Iām wrong Amazon is pushing back start dates regardless
Some people posting that their offers straight up got rescinded?
Sheesh it's rough out there
New grad is so screwed jeez
Anyone did Vialās second round interview? For SWE?
@gleaming fable yo rico, afresh still hiring?
I think so but senior only roles for now 
Oh gotcha
Makes sense
i feel you
same position
Any discord sever for Amazon new grads 2023?
the HR guy told me it affected all new SDE hires (didn't say whether it was limited to Q1/Q2 starts but i kind of assumed it did), but people have been told different things
actually i heard some Q3 starts were postponed to 2024 as well
anyways it's still a developing story and there will likely be more people notified tomorrow. my guess is that it's going to affect everybody though
have no idea if interns are affected
I feel like it's a precursor to something big... see how many internationals dip then do mass layoffs round 2 accordingly
So fucked
yeah this honestly feels like a rescind with extra steps
and it's a soft rescind for anyone on a visa
damn, I just heard about q1 starts till now
could also be that they're waiting to manage out current bottom performers by Q3 so that we can replace them lol
IMO they're probably keeping us around just in case economy does recover and they need to hire again
LOL ya that's plausible af
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got this from capital one, does this mean that i have passed the interview but on the waitlist now?.
Looks like it
hey, any advice for palantirās karat interview? should I just do the leetcode bot questions, or something else? Thanks
š for the Zon homies
truly sorry to hear that.
we are in a very weird time
Sadge
I swear to fucking god
One of my interviewers canceled on my power day a month ago and I just took it recently
When did you do your power day?
Yeah c1 is full
They first need to fulfill people who passed power day to give them an offer first
Correct I think
mid of November
Im pissed
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why havenāt they waitlisted me yet just put me down already pull the trigger
cant find a fuckin job
feel like giving up and trying in june when apps for 2024 open
Do we get Palantir OA after the recruiter screening?
Bro keep trying dont give up
Theres plenty of jobs at small companies
yes @pine topaz talked sense into me
How long does it take to hear from oracle. Had my final last Monday but heard nothing yet
I emailed my recruiter but she takes forever to respond to anything
They slow af
Do you know the approx wait time
depends on company
should I move up my start date so i don't get it pushed like is happening at amazon?
what do yāall think of toyota connected vs veeva? toyota seems like more interesting work while veeva is mostly maintaining old code. around the same tc considering their locations
Wat
i'm nervous about my offer getting rescinded or my start date pushed, so to avoid that should I try to move my start date sooner
Which company?
wells fargo
How much would you move it up like from july to jan or just within same cycle like aug to may?
I can move it from july -> feb
hmm I mean it would technically be safer but it doesn't fully protect you. Most companies would probably have layoffs accompanying new grad rescinds and you could possibly be safer with an offer pending vs if you already started
tough call I probably wouldn't unless I wanted to start working earlier anyways. I don't think it really swings the needle either way.
Bro, think of it as a paid vacation. $13K additional bonus for doing nothing!
anyone know the GCA score for samsara OA?
I am on F1 visa. I will be sent back if i don't get a job in 90 days
Oh shit, sorry 
fuck. sorry that sucks
would u be able to stay in school?
perhaps do a masters?
Same boat.
I talked to them they said they can't postpone graduation now. Since I already filled the graduation form
those 2 have high bars so you almost certainly need to solve the question
we let companies get away with so much
unfortunately corporate america have no workers rights
i submitted 824 and got reject
brehhh
for what role??
is anywhere still open lol
New grad SWE
Idk if they're even hiring new grad
!process samsara is empty for new grad
You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process
they are but a large portion of them are referral related i think, u gotta dig for roles like gold in a mine
Start asap
812 and ghosted
SWE as well?
i just got a firmware GCA from them..?
Just keeping the posting technically open
it's weird cuz their firmware GCA seems non-auto
Whatās your plan now?
does palantir call to reject
I quit immediately afterwards
big brain
ik casino's make you win the first time so that you get a rush and gamble more
Just go all on your first time
Whereās your online course?
iirc, yes
In what case would they do this
anyone knows what to expect from the DRW phone for software engineer?
Any idea how long these interview results will be valid? Like will I get an offer in August without re-interview?
I can't tell u. But I'd say it ought to be fair game for the rest of the season to reuse results and go straight to offer
I have no idea. I am applying to every company I can find. I am looking for consultancies and looking for a professor to let me work till july as RA or something
Hopefully! But I wonder how many people are waiting like this and how many reneges they will have
I've got a friend who interviewed for c1 intern last year, went to meta instead. his interview results were valid for TDP during his cycle this year

Thatās awesome to know! Thank you šš½
how long does it usually take to hear back after Palantir karat? Took mine this past Friday
I have my Mathworks EDG onsite this Thursday, does anyone have any tips? rn i'm just brushing up on OOP and the top LC interview problems
Anyone had an akuna interview recently?
Itās been a week and they havenāt gotten back
was like 2+ weeks for me, negative result though
weird, Palantir said i would get decomp in HM round but i got coding
anyways i think it went well so 
Some people had two separate virtual on-site interviews on diff days. Not sure if thatās the process they have going for you?
It'll be one after another, both eliminatory rounds (only get 2nd if you pass first)
It'll be scheduled for really soon afterwards (could be same day or next)
is it confirmed that Palantir candidate survey = reject? how soon after HM do they usually send it?
95% confirmed basically
i got survey and reject 1 hr later
friend got survey and reject 3 days later
friend got the survey 3 days later too?
haven't gotten it yet but super anxious lol
inbox dry asf
breh my inbox was dry for like the past 5 months and just this morning i got a phone and a weird OA that seems non-auto
patience padawan
aaahhhhhhh
is your return offer all good still?
yee
Nice LETS GOOOOOO
hello big adulting friends who understand RSUs, if I have a 1yr cliff I don't vest till a year has passed right?
yep that's my understanding
so my 1st yr I wouldn't include stocks w my base to get total comp right? Like total comp would just be base?
if you're planning on staying at least a year, you should include stocks in your total comp
even though you won't actually get the RSUs you earned until 1 year from your start date
ahhh i see thank you mr. duck
šš„
Ive heard some people say the Data Scientist and Data Engineer jobs are not as good as SWE jobs
and the data people are normally the first to be laid off
what do you think about it?
typically lower salaries, and youāre competing against non-tech people applying for these jobs too
Whatās the difference between DS and MLE i know MLE get paid more for same level at Snap at least
yeah I want to know the upper limit of DS/DE vs SWE, but lack data
you can look at levels fyi or glassdoor for companies maybe
and some say if you want to be a good data scientist, you need to be a good SWE first.
what do you think about it?
i think DE involves some actual swe things like Java/Scala
from levels.fyi, SWE seems to have a higher upper limit in my dream company.
I didnt see L4 for Data Scientist in Indeed
DS is more math/stats and python
@fossil jewel is right
or at least thatās what iāve heard from current DSs
data scientists use tools to work with processed data maybe graph them or something. data engineers will source and process data as well as create data relationships which requires āengineeringā coding skills as opposed to scripting knowledge
also swe can involve data engineering
like general swe roles can place you in that or sometimes its lumped with Backend engineering
my friend was a DE at meta, it's a lot of sql and data anlysis/visualization in python
and building data pipelines and whatever
ofc a lot of places will use ds/de interchangeably in order to attract the candidates they want
Fortune 500s
Not easy but big list
And doable
Stable etc
Tbh dont discriminate, just go hard
^
donāt worry abt tech so much, fortune 500 is an incredibly good rec
depends on the role
a lot of the roles I looked at this year said they were accepting ppl within 0-1 yrs of graduation but ymmv
Nah you should get experience, that matters much much more in the long run
More experience you have I think itās easier to find a job
Any thoughts on Walmart, Sam's Club (95k Dallas) vs BB (155k NYC)?
155k is base
No sign on, 10k relocation and 23k target
Yeah, looks nice but I am just worried it won't be enough for NYC cost of living, if I want to save a bit
Do you still work at BB?
Do you mind if I dm you?
BB is nearly double the salary. Iād consider culture of each company as well.
155 is pre-tax correct?
Dallas and NYC cost of living and taxes makes up for that difference š„²
Its definitely 155 pre-tax
Post tax would mean that you get 155k in your bank account assuming no other deductions and after taxes
it does but its fun
huh did you end up jumping to an hft company out of curiosity?
i like math, and have taken a good amount
or did you go the tech route
up to differential
but image processing touches on signal processing which was my most annoying engineering course
I'd choose Bloomberg over walmart for the arguably better career exit opportunities, but maybe idk enough about walmart (also depends on what you're gonna be working on at walmart)
nyc probs also a better place to network for better opportunities later on
Yeah perhaps
BB and dont look back
Hypothetically, even if WM allowed you to save more moneyā¦How much extra would it be? Would that amount be worth giving up relative job security and brand name?
does anybody know how long it takes palantir to get back to you after hiring manager round
Does anyone know if palantirs comp changes per location? Can ppl who have offers dm if possible?
Iām questioning if WITCH has head counts this year, because I think their businesses are also affected by the tech downturn. I applied to Infosys weeks ago, got no response. Cognizant recruiter ghosted after oa, and Iām not the only one experiencing this.

ah the classic BB exit career path I've heard about
I've always heard people from BB either go to Google or HFTs
I imagine the meta job hoppers have rapidly dropped lmao
does SoFi have any name in the industry? do recruiters even know about it?
tomorrow better not be a donowall
rescind them first 
Yes and yes
Letās make that 250k
yea i enjoyed the interviews. no lc more of a pair programming/code review type process for me
for system design when people say grokking the coding interview is it the educative one?
Wondering this too
i remember last year some companies adjusted their salary at the end of year... when does that typically happen?
Yes. Although u can find the pdf from previous versions online
ah I see thx
is the stuff kinda basic in the course tho since the available sections on the website is just like class stuff
is the examples the important part
Yeah i think most of it is just examples but i havent used it too much personally so idk
makes sense
Yes apparently
What are some companies still hiring rn?
Bloomberg
Would you say there's anything you should study before it? I have it soon too
just remember that not everything is effected by CoL/taxes. if you contribute lets say... 10% to a traditional 401k, thats 9.5k per year vs 15.5k per year. over 30 years in the market at 6% thatd be a $475,000 difference
now i know your income wont stay the same over 30 years but you get the idea. relative savings are much higher even if CoL and taxes eat up a lot of the take home difference
Also, checked a COL calculator and BB is technically paying 10k more than the equivalent of 95k(in Dallas). If you want a more accurate measure, do your own spreadsheet with your actual expenses.
And some things are hard to quantify like not needing a car in NYC but a car being necessary in Dallas. Without a car, you donāt spend time finding parking, paying for parking, taking it to get oil changes/maintenance, commute while having to pay attention, etc
anyone have any info / tips for google OA
chatGPT
dope thanks
is the snapshot survey evaluated?
like amazon LPs sort of thing?
thanks again
I'd recommend following up since it's been that many business days
lmaoooo NOW bloomberg wants to move forward after like 6 weeks of ghosting
are companies starting to hire again or something
Nice! Any time I've applied, Bloomberg has resume rejected me very fast (within 1 - 2 business days) 
not really. just some knowledge of basic stuff like http requests and sql. seems like they interview by team there so it could be different
is this after the first round?
i got an email too but idk if this is final round or not
i did my first round last month and my interviewer told me that he is passing me
yeah, after first round. i aced the phone screen but heard nothing after that
okay then we are in the same boat
i think there are like 2 more technical rounds and an EM round?
the email says
its a 1 hour round
so idk whats going on
very little clarity
its frustrating
yeah i mean they do them in separate stages
p sure it goes phone > 2(?) VOs > EM
this might be too little too late for me though
yeah it's a mess
i wonder if they decided to unfreeze their process after the cpi report came out yesterday
oh wow
i stopped interviewing this season because it really put my grades in jeopardy lol
what do they even ask in the HR round that wouldn't be covered in EM
and mental health
yeah it's really exhausting
don't blame you
i'm done with school now but these companies drag out their processes for way too long and i've lost so many nights of sleep over it
HR is just formalities and making sure your interests align with what they offer
EM is a resume deep dive/project review and potentially sys design
i see
idk i might back out. i don't have much interest in relocating to east coast and i'm already down to the wire needing to sign a new lease in the Bay
need to move out first week of january
Anyone did the McKinseyās last round?
yo anyone take vanguard OA?
PMG pays 68k?? 
yeah i think they're doing staged VOs
But with how slow they are idk if the process will complete before new year lol
My company just did layoffs ā ļøā ļøā ļøā ļø
That Iām gonna join
They gonna pull a coinbase on me
How many round did you do before that? @glass knoll
Hopes up!
I saw that also do a "job review" thing. What does that mean? Resume review?
And do they ask u to do any coding and shit?
would you take a job that uses rust/scala over java?
HR wasn't nearly as technical as EM for me
interesting
oa phone then final
bbg recruiters aren't even responsive after you get an offer 
can confirm
itās basic resume review stuff. asking questions about experience/skills. i didnāt get asked to code but i had to debug and look at code
how fast does Palantir reject after HM
I see, thanks bro
I guess it was code review, debug, and resume grilling, and behavioral?
Guys anyone have given Walmart karat interview??
At the end of the day it's just a language so I don't think it should matter too much vs the company itself or the actual work you will be doing. That being said I do think Rust would be sweet but I would be slightly nervous about the learning curve if I didn't know it already. Scala I would be somewhat nervous just bc it's not very popular, also it depends on how your team is using it. I think if it's databricks style then it's a 100% non issue but would be slightly nervous if it was being used 100% functional
yes.
anything to avoid java
F
I started learning rust recently
It's got a steep learning curve imo
I'm not that productive in it yet
who
why do people want palantir so much? it doesn't seem like there's much growth or exit opportunities
like I think ngs get paid the same as someone whos been there for like 5 years
money?
it's a prestigious name, pays well for NG, and (subjectively) involves some really interesting projects that you can't really find elsewhere
also they're actively hiring
for me though i mostly just want it as validation that i can crack an interview of that caliber, idk if i'd even take it
i mean i surprisingly passed the resume screen, idk how high the bar is but gg
i withdrew when they send the OA though
yeah like making software to discriminate
if you want to help deport people great place to be
Pays well
yeah ik people who would be targets and it felt wrong to be on that end
pays well out of college but I don't think they do raises
but the sources on that were before they went public
Ye so u can just jump ship š¤·āāļø
not gonna be cause for my homies to be deported
not gonna argue that some of their projects are extremely controversial
loll
Also som ppl only get 1~2 offers and don't have a variety of choices
Most people can't be picky in these times anyway
"ay man sorry for making software to deport you gotta make this 150k. hope you know i gotta eat."
i would volunteer to be deported for half of palantir's tc
I wouldn't šš
I'll judge any1 4 any rzn āŗļø
so at what point is it a must to decline?
what can i hire you to do 
why do you say no exit opps? not arguing, just curious what makes you say this
They said they wouldn't judge
Not that they would do it, lol
yeah not for me, but i dont blame anyone for taking whatever job in this market
ah okay
Anyone interviewed for HRT data engineer role..?
It's sussy how palantir engages in predictive policing
I'm honestly glad they resume rejected me after recruiter call(no team wanted to interview me)
abs valid to question me. A lot of people like to place themselves in moral superiority when it comes to not working at palantir. You go on sites like blind/reddit/glassdoor and you hear anon swes saying shit like "you'll never get hired working for such a morally corrupt company." Also since Palantir is pretty much a consulting/data company, I don't know if they're seen in the industry as a leading tech company
yeah their about me is like "we help solve homelessness"
I guess it's just the pay and high hiring bar
i mean palantir seems to have really big brained folks
I'm probably never applying to palantir again
likewise, i think i applied to it in an applying spree and got past resume screen
they sent me an OA when i was on vacay and told me i have 5 days to do it then emailed me again when i didnt do it
theres nothing with using them as a practice interview
Palantir has two resume screens, the second is after the recruiter call
but idk kinda dirty about accepting a job from them
You have to have a team express interest in order to get an onsite
yeah i just got the OA and saw something about graphs and i was like nope
nah because they dont help deport people.
Tbh social media isn't the same as building a surveillance state
Social media is a choice tbh
Being micromanaged by your government through data is not a choice
1984 
I was unaware that palantir screened resumes before karat, I thought they sent one to everyone who applied
Hm
I think so
Palantirs bar to get a karat and recruiter call are nonexistent
Everyone gets it
now what facebook did in myanmar*?* idk
it would depend on the work i would do there
i guess
tech in general has a whole lot of unethical shit
my friends and I all applied to palantir days after each other and it was systematic, my friend applied something like 10/12 and me 10/13, she got the OA email 11/15 and I got it 11/16
Makes sense
šš
Would you work at juul for 300k tc
nonexistent + 1 apparently, i got resume rejected 
I applied 8/23, got OA invite 09/13, second reach out 09/22, withdrew 09/28
I got resume rejected too
send resume lol
Then I guess there's two resume screenings at palantir
how much weight do you think this actually holds, versus anon people on the internet trying to scare away people from working at palantir through fear tactics
my resume is fine im chillin. it could have been the answer to why palantir on the app ig
I guess there's two resume screenings at Google too, and at every other company that makes you team match before getting an offer
people on reddit have no skin in the game
they aren't the ones making the hiring decisions
tru - very little weight
plenty of folks have gone from Palantir to Google
palantir is known for the high hiring bar, and known for having really bright engineers working there
will people judge you? sure, probably a small number though and an even smaller number that actually has any hand in hiring you
always judging
I dislike palantir a lot but I wouldn't be prejudiced against an applicant from there
Or at least inherently prejudiced just because they were from palantir
i will work for wheoever gives me more green paper
If they unironically support predictive policing then I'm rejecting them
Regardless of their interview performance
palantir is not very well known, even in tech, so i dont think theres that much prejudice
i woudl disagree
i think its known, maybe not to the extent of big tech, but more so than you might think
everyone not in tech i have talked to knows about it
or most people ig
Palantir is pretty well known tho
i had a guy from meta helping me prep and he asked wtf is palantir
Does he know what datadog is
idk
that's a good question lol
i imagine it's just a performance bonus yearly
maybe they have loose levels like bb?
i watched one of their demos where the dude said he voluntarily went from being tech lead to just a single contributor
has anyone completed a technical interview in codesignal? are the questions similar to what the codesignal OA looks like?
i'd start personally selling and hand packing juuls if they were paying me 300k USD tc
same
Tbh if flipping burgers made 300k, the hiring bar would require a culinary degree from tohtsuki as a minimum
well if you want fullstack i think this is good: https://fullstackopen.com/en/
can u send application link
pls
ah

sheesh you got google oa? I applied with referral back in august too
Same

itās ugly out here
same
i applied to google 3x with referral including most recently with August with 2 internships including FAANG and never so much as gotten an OA from them lol
Has anyone here successfully been able to pull a bait and switch (i.e. applying for an internship, but then having them consider you for a full-time offer instead?) 
dollars dont work in your country dumb as
i deeply apologise for this transgression.
very astute observation

It's super chill from what I've seen of his posts

can you guys open an office here and hire me
do you get a work laptop
whats up with you and your obsession with work laptops
did you find out what they are giving you
i am not using a shitter
youre gonna get a shock when they give youa chromebook
From those who have passed hm rounds, what are your tips for doing exceptionally well?
im outski
hell yes can you vape in the office
people already do, just discretely lol
I'm on the zyn life so no more vaping for me but I would start again if I could in the office
^
yeah just got it today
super easy
we'll see if theyre even interviewing
damn i didnt get shit
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/12/13/2022-major-layoffs-grow-twitter-goldman-sachs-pluralsight-cutting-hundreds-of-jobs/?sh=281e024c281b
The article itself has timeline of similar layoffs.
For any haters who say only tech/startups "overhired". Everyone is getting wrecked.
did the ramp front end just come out or was it out a while ago
Did anyone sign bloomberg? If so did you guys print the offer and send it to your recruiter?
did anyone get an email back from sterling?
just came out AFAIK
Do u guys think there will be more chance for us in Jan and Feb?
Just curious-does amazon still price in 15% YoY stock appreciation in RSU grants?
no one knows
Yeah ur right. Market has been mostly unkind to tech/real estate/finance/maybe retail or service workers
PayPal reject at 3 am
Airtable is struggling?
Who is hiring tho
For non tech
I canāt think of anyone really
If opened for a few days, closed, and has now reopened
Imo every tech company overhired last yr
Didn't FB also give out hella offers last year?
Yea
Not every
Pin didnāt
Pin only has 1k swe
And 3k employees total
i mean that was just supposed to be an additional data point, but the person right above said they had an OA with an August application
do you guys think itās still worth negotiating if u donāt have competing offer
yes
Scary
as an international student this is probably the worst phase of my life. the mental stress and anxiety is off the charts . š¢

pressure makes diamonds they say
Just don't be international 
Same here
international students lets go back to our home countries and make build our own tech industries
fk silicon valley
Does anyone know about Balyasny Asset Management?
if a company asks you if you're gonna need/want housing, is saying "yes" a red flag?
anyone doing the ramp challenge ?
is this for an internship?
yes, my bad wrong channel
np np, anyways no, if theyre offering it then you taking it isnt a red flag
thank you so much, a recruiter got back to me asking if I'm going to need housing..... and I honestly didn't know what to say. Not trying to decrease my chances of landing this role
yeah fair enough. youll be fine though 
like 5k+ people yeah
Lowkey this is how Taiwan became the leader for semiconductors, engineers in the US who were frustrated
same....I just graduated today
now i kinda understand why people marry for a green card here 
shenzhen is basically the next silicon valley
I'm doing the frontend challenge, low key kinda hard 
didnt get return offer from internship
same bro
volunteer roles ? any examples?
you had amazon offer?
Seems like a it good be a good plan or terrible
You have nothing to lose
No
Canāt even get a job flipping burgers
anyone got any tips on getting consistent 820+ on codesignal?
Worst job market of all time
Just wanted to make some delicious golden-brown fries š

McDonalds and ChickFilA are already really competitive regardless of how the market is
mcdonalds hard lc soon
Bruh apple interviewer asked me how do you know if your computer programs stack is increasing or decreasing
Basically an embedded software interview :"D
I failed miserably
Sounds gay asf
Yeah I'm out
Thank god
congratssss
ur chillin' now lol
Where at

ramp

fintech startup
š
@prime palm congratulations homie
Were they asking conceptually, or did they want you to name a tool to see memory usage
Tech industry ---- Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad.
They want me to write a code to do that in C/C++
without using library
pain
how do you know?
"if the fan gets louder then it's increasing"
Can anyone tell what is Veeva final like?
anyone hve offers at amazon rescinded?
Dm me
Could I also dm about the Veeva final?
ye ye
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anyone know how SpaceX HM round is
Is bbg sys des acc sys design or more like ood?
Ood
cscareers.dev is the best online course š
when are bbg start dates? July August?
like any monday thru the summer
thx lad
tomorrow better be a good day
How was ur small quant hft in eu interview
good then bad

If Im trying to in join a start up can I enter the server?
hey anyone interview with hive
ceo emailed me to talk
dont know if that means offer or another technical round lmao
yeah, I can add a 'prospective' role
I mean, that's cool but just be prepared for startup-centric conversations I guess lol
uh oh i dont know if i can handle that
lol
is that the final round?
if it is the CEO then it isnt a technical round
if it is the CTO then yes
^^ usually it's a behavioral or culture match interview if it's a ceo
he didnt say like how long it was
he just said lets chat
and all my interviews were scheduled through recruiter
how many rounds have you had so far
you've done all the previous technical one right?
i had 4 technical rds with my last rd being with cto
then ur fine it isnt a technical round
so like offer then i guess lol?
yeah kinda probably some behavioral question then offer
yk im curious how did the ceo make time for me or any other ng
Is there anyone who is yet to receive information regarding amazon offer ? Did the offer delay applied to every new grad and return intern ?
thats the first q imma ask him
and i mean it in a polite way
like is it company culture thing?
how bigs the company
its a startup but its also been around for like 6 years or so
what role did you apply to
like a general backend engineering role
"ceo" lol
my interviewer at Hive screwed me at the last round
is hive still hiring?
yes
how can they be still hiring
bruhh for real?
no one accepts the offer from hive?
i thought awad made twilio rich
i mean there are too many seekers
bad wlb?
not sure actually
i just thought since higher competition, people naturally worked harder
honestly never heard about twillo till i started participating in MLH hackathons
you'd be surprised how many massive things we don't know about ))
how is twilio somehow not profitable is the question
did they grossly overestimate their revenue growth
yeah thats when i heard about em, for 2fa stuff
i mean what other competitors are there?
interesting
oh true
not surprised there lol
ik gcp got their own thing too , and something for calls
aws is the only website that i've encountered that makes you clear cache to get logged in to ur account
depends on what ur using it for, aws by itself is massive
u can't learn all of it or you'd frankly be wasting ur time
oh ur at zon
data/ML related
could be backend too
team's flexible
oh cool
i remember looking at aws educate
computer vision?
its true but its a grind to get those
@modest night ceo round is almost always a 15min offer call
Microsoft just emailed me after 1 month since I received feedback from OA + behavioral. They said that they won't have an update until early next year and that they'll come back to me asap
Broo I atleast wanna know whether or not im still in the wait list
It's internship
And the feedback so far has been absolutely great
Oh was bout to say
It's EU and start date is March 2023 though
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Are you familiar with evolve? If ur in Austin, were there really 5 spots total 
I guess should give some context, I got an offer, and couldnāt get Cupertino, Seattle or NYC. Reason was limited spots and apparently Austin has the same number of spots as NYC yet thereās a campus there?
Also if you talk a bit about the office ur at
how tf do you clear the Apple resume screen + is the strat to just cold email EMs/how do you find EMs to contact
Pretty sure itās either cold email or the school you go to
For me itās the latter
Seen some people here say iOS experience but idts
No
U wonāt know the name of the school probably but we consistently have people go there
I assume thatās what it was cuz my resume was so mid
Iām east coast
Is Amazon prime business critical for amazon?
Did you job hop into apple?
I'm in Austin and personally I chose this office over the others. The city has a lot more to offer nearby than the others and it's overall just a lot off fun. For now the office situation depends a lot on team, in my case I like it because mine is mostly in CA so more or less this mean I'm 100% remote
I think I got lucky. Did an internship at Amazon and my resume was a 1-to-1 match for the role I applied for cold from a handshake listing
previous message answers it. but really just think it was a lot of luck/timing when i applied. did not go to even a t20 school. got a recruiter response and just did well in interviews
What's an IC4, senior? SWE1/2? New grads join at IC3 right? How long did it take for a promo
I was hired at ICT3 and got my promo at 8 months to 4
Thatās mad fast
Have you mentor or work with any ict2?
Or at least know how long they took to get to ict3 where theyāre not hourly anymore 
Congrats! Dang, ICT4 is senior level https://www.levels.fyi/companies/apple/salaries/software-engineer/levels/ict4. One year from new grad to senior? Is that common at Apple? You must be a super genius š²
no i just negotiated based on a return intern offer from amazon. they came back with ict3. but honestly being thrown straight in was kind of great. i got a lot of direct feedback an mentorship straight from staff/principal engineers which really helped me develop faster than i think i could of otherwise
how do you guys manage to get responses from apple
the upside about ict2 is you're hourly with full overtime available and you'll work A LOT your first 6-12 months so you'll probably make more as an ICT2. the downside is it's more steps to the next promo
Looks like he worked with specific technologies at Amazon that his team worked on and that helped him pass resume screen
target positions that are as close to a 1-to-1 match as you can find compared to your experience you can quantify on your resume
also like i said initially, i'll answer any question that doesn't have to do with referrals
Yo, can you look up hiring managers that are hiring interns internally and DM me their emails?
absolutely not
Wait but I had more offers than that 
It had to be the org
at the end of the day it all comes down to timing and numbers
Yeah Austin is probably more chill than Cupertino
really just the team, hiring manager discretion, and team budget/allocations
I didnāt even get to choose Cupertino
But Austin looks very nice
tbh any day of the week i'd take austin over nearby san jose
Yeah plus for me hourly either way so 
do you remember what the turnaround time was after submitting your application
Ik thereās overtime but like bro
ICT4 salary with Austin COL is so nice too š¤
Oh yeah refreshers are insane
or ig timeline in general
i think it was like 2-5 weeks after a cold apply
There's no point in this info tbh, it's random
i'd honestly most recommend finding positions where your resume is as close as a match it can be
hitting up hiring managers is kind of pointless since you'll probably just be randomly emailing SWE managers
i have no idea if cold emailing recruiters is beneficial, but from here in the past it's worked for some people
It works for people
Few people here have been able to get an internship offer by cold emailing. But the people I've seen are geniuses with impressive past work experience and they've been able to get a lot of other good internships. So if you're good at that then it might work, but for most people it won't.
But you end up not liking the role
They look they just donāt want you 
So pick the generic role or the specific one that looks similar
Most of my time on the portal was making a new Apple ID 
Not looking at role of best fit
Lmao, same. That's what delayed me from applying too.
don't think there's a generic one for NG unfortunately
Kinda
Thereās evolve
Which is rotational program
Barely any spots according to my recruiter
Hence no Cupertino for me
Cmon now, we shiny gyarados
I failed a behavioral for evolve
Facebook was receptive to cold emailing, most companies will ghost or tell you to get back in line when you cold email
Cold emailing doesn't work
It doesn't work more often than it works
have most apps closed?
A lot sure have
Anyone here applying for SWE positions in EU? Pls DM.
But tbh I was getting serially resume rejected in the first wave of job apps anyways
How long has it been? I have given the first VO round and now their next empty slot is mid Jan
š¢
This is for London location tho
Very good for a new grad
i do live in california, but am not going to be paying rent
i wonder how much take home will be after 401k/taxes haha
i wonder how accurate this thing is
seems pretty accurate tho
lol
IKR they told me all three rounds would be same day and after my first VO, they don't have slots lol
this economy is so bad lol
Tech economy*, the rest of the economy is fine for now.
its not though, trucking businesses have also took a hit
and whenever transportation takes a hit, its not a good indication for a good future haha
I think there'll be a national economic reckoning
The recession will hit everyone else later tbh
and this hit has been worldwide, not only to united states
def a big recession coming
Tech grew the fastest so it's the first that's gotta implode
hope that 2023 is a better year.. I am still waiting for a good FT offer
Youth unemployment is a global phenomenon now
I'm grateful that I have a lot of prior internships and a good degree
At least I'm not the most vulnerable to a recession fucking over c/o23
(I don't wish that on anyone though)
yeah but the thing is, people having a good degree doesn't set you apart anymore tbh
I feel like the fed has taken the recession route over letting inflation ruin everyone's standard of living
anyone can get laid off at this point
Truth
It's still a shock how many people don't realize that a degree isn't enough
You gotta get a job before you get a job 
its probably going to be one of the worst recessions we are going to see here lol
Internships be like
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30-year fixed-rate 6.024% 6.129%
20-year fixed-rate 5.666% 5.800%
15-year fixed-rate 5.314% 5.486%
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i feel bad for families who were just going to buy a home
and saved up 5-10 years for one
When the feds print too much money they have to punish us eventually
Homes were selling like crazy last year
Early 2021
yeah i mean they are still going to sell but damn
the payments on these are not going to be fun
Interest rates were so good back then
ikr
they more than doubled now
its actually crazy
lol
so has anyone been abusing chatgpt for assignments
Nah I finished my last writing intensive classes right as chatgpt rolled out
Same with ML code; itās wrong with like fourier transform and stuff
Palantirās closed til Jan 5th apparently
Recruiter said theyāre all going on holiday
It can write nice code, I see it as a much better alternative to stack overflow
Chatgpt is just good at bullshitting a verbose and gramatically correct answer
There's pretty much zero guarantee of objectivity or correctness
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But tbh chatgpt being able to come up with bullshit that's grammatically correct is still really impressive
It's bullshit but at least it looks like real English
is it even worth applying to big tech nowadays
It can't handle ambiguity which is why you still need a competent developer
seems like they are just auto denying
But it's a great way to code less lol
true
@queen valve u lied
It won't create anything novel. It's trained on internet data. It can spit out boiler plate code for you
Yuckuna @pulsar mural
It gave you some good options still. if you add more context to the question it will help
:sure:
Hola
I love this
Yup; it defo wont replace us in the near future
But then it passed Metaās E3 bar lmao
For sure, I think it's a great "assistant" for developers. It can replace scouring thru stack overflow, write unit tests, boilerplate code, etc.

Can u please have some respect for mods
I know u dont respect yourself but maybe respect others
nice edit
anyone joining hive? got an offer but very sus of the wlb and culture
also considering it lol hive's yield must be terrible
is it true that palantir new grad offers are non-negotiable?
Don't you love how the honey pops out
Just like how I pop dn in your mouth
Yield?
why is this satisfying to watch
like #ppl accepting the offer/# offers given out
Ah
Tbh I'd be careful about accepting hive even though team blind reviews aren't that bad
At least on average now
yeah no clue whats actually happening in there
Sigh
Wait is this fuckin real
Tbh the hive process gives off a "we have no idea what we're doing" feeling since it's 4 45 min leetcode interviews
A lot of caution flags but no outright red flags
i mean thats no different from all the faang interviews
Hm tru
Tbh leetcode is more standardized than stuff like sysdesign, pair programming, and language trivia
Language trivia is for boomers tbh
SoFi's final round was entirely language trivia
miserable interview almost made me quit
Language trivia is objectively a dogshit metric
All it tests is if you remember the right shit at the right time
yup
ORLY
I love o'Reilly parodies
LMAO

O Reilly got good books ngl

Books in 2023 
(i can get them for free
)
Solved the leetcode questions in my ebay final interview. But got rejected on Language trivia it was so fucking dumb.
books for html 

Bro uhh I was bored
I didn't need it
But HTML does get complicated
My dad is a cringelord boomer tbh, he unironically asks language trivia
mozilla docs are the best

What's that
Can't be done with work until this is all green
looks like tests
ah
Ah
Sounds right
Yep
anyone have any insight into what its like working at ramp? e.g. culture and wlb
For those that went thru the palantir process - is the call with your recruiter after the phone screen but before the VO also an interview or is it truly just to help you prep for the VO
just prep
I mean theyāll ask basic behavioral questions like āwhy Palantirā but otherwise just prep
if it's full or not idc experience interviewing is experience
true
prob just a prep call, lmao you guys min/max everything and ponder each small detail
oof
but yeah good luck @strange ore

yea I saw this one, messed up. they're international grads tho so it's posible palantir is maxed on sponsorships
as far as I've seen the hc claims have been from international grads
Just don't be international, problem solved 
shoutout my international homies

FDSE NY i dont believe is full
a few palantir offers today
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my one job offer got rescinded, back in the hiring game
so who's still hiring lol?
Which company?
so sorry to hear that š¦ which company?
i think if u don't need a visa sponsorship, there are still few companies who are hiring
if u need a visa sponsorship, bloomberg and palantir were the only few that were hiring a lot of new grads but they are full now
i'm on an F1 visa sadly
the funny thing is I had a bloomberg interview but didn't pursue it after getting the offer that got rescinded
damn... so sorry. I'm also on an F1 visa. Apparently, some ppl do volunteer work / unpaid jobs so visa doesnt expire. If you have already graduated and only have 2-3 months to find a job, that's def one of the options
Palantir requires US citizenship
yeah i think for some position they provide visa
a startup called modern treasury
damn sorry dawg
hopefully š tho it seems like jpow is gonna drive the economy into a recession so not very optimistic here
like for a nonprofit?
yeah. probably doing it at school will be safest / easiest to find
i wish i knew someone who does a startup so i can just write the companies name and keep searching for jobs 
bloomberg still potentially an option I guess
It's an interview
You can get rejected

are they not full already?
I mean they are still accepting apps
and someone on the subreddit got a phone screen last week
thing is it would be backlogged till like Feb at least
yeah u should still apply
is it possible to do the ramp challenge on the cloud somewhere? like I have a potato laptop so was wondering if that's plausible
then i suppose itāa good idea

dollars dont work
