#2023_grads

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teal jackal
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seems scary now tbh

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good luck guys

deep summit
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yo out out of curiosity, how did it go

whole berry
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bruh this is one of the worst things ever

delicate cloak
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yeah fuck amazon

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literally waiting til the very last minute

whole berry
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i hope your other offer doesnt falter

fossil jewel
delicate cloak
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same, now i need to do well on my remaining two interviews so i have backups for my backup lmao

tardy geode
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i am so scared rn

nocturne oriole
tardy geode
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i have no offers , international and all of these things happening. i am getting a rush of stress , anxiety and bad nightmares😭idk how to cope and stay sane

ornate cliff
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your new grad start date?

delicate cloak
ornate cliff
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FAAKKKKKK

main sinew
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I thought interns have an edge but apparently I’m wrong Amazon is pushing back start dates regardless

ornate cliff
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Some people posting that their offers straight up got rescinded?

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Sheesh it's rough out there

pure mauve
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New grad is so screwed jeez

dawn lynx
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Anyone did Vial’s second round interview? For SWE?

wheat seal
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@gleaming fable yo rico, afresh still hiring?

gleaming fable
crimson flame
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Any discord sever for Amazon new grads 2023?

delicate cloak
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actually i heard some Q3 starts were postponed to 2024 as well

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anyways it's still a developing story and there will likely be more people notified tomorrow. my guess is that it's going to affect everybody though

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have no idea if interns are affected

ornate cliff
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I feel like it's a precursor to something big... see how many internationals dip then do mass layoffs round 2 accordingly

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So fucked

delicate cloak
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yeah this honestly feels like a rescind with extra steps

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and it's a soft rescind for anyone on a visa

slim agate
delicate cloak
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could also be that they're waiting to manage out current bottom performers by Q3 so that we can replace them lol

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IMO they're probably keeping us around just in case economy does recover and they need to hire again

ornate cliff
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LOL ya that's plausible af

winter thistle
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and banazon is putting all Fall interns on waitlist

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tuff

karmic harness
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guys im hearing bad news

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is it true

pallid vine
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Hello again!

 

Thank you again for taking the time to interview for the Technology Development Program! As previously mentioned, we have received beyond expected interest in our program and all slots have been filled at this time.

 

You will shortly be receiving an email notifying you that your TDP application has been closed out in our system. This enables us to best maintain our records, but I wanted to reiterate that I will reach out directly to let you know if a position becomes available in the near future. You will need to reapply at that time, but the good news is your interview results will remain valid!

 

Thank you again for your active interest in Capital One, and be sure to stay connected with us via Capital One Careers for all the latest updates on #lifeatcapitalone.
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got this from capital one, does this mean that i have passed the interview but on the waitlist now?.

stone latch
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Looks like it

foggy onyx
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hey, any advice for palantir’s karat interview? should I just do the leetcode bot questions, or something else? Thanks

surreal shuttle
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I am back here after amazon delaying my offer

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I feel like crying

west egret
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šŸ™ for the Zon homies

karmic harness
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we are in a very weird time

earnest summit
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One of my interviewers canceled on my power day a month ago and I just took it recently

earnest summit
teal jackal
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Yeah c1 is full

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They first need to fulfill people who passed power day to give them an offer first

pallid vine
earnest summit
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Im pissed

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😔

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why haven’t they waitlisted me yet just put me down already pull the trigger

fervent drift
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cant find a fuckin job

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feel like giving up and trying in june when apps for 2024 open

next geode
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Do we get Palantir OA after the recruiter screening?

wary birch
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Theres plenty of jobs at small companies

fervent drift
neat shore
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How long does it take to hear from oracle. Had my final last Monday but heard nothing yet

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I emailed my recruiter but she takes forever to respond to anything

neat shore
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Do you know the approx wait time

sage sluice
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depends on company

unique wolf
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should I move up my start date so i don't get it pushed like is happening at amazon?

brisk void
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what do y’all think of toyota connected vs veeva? toyota seems like more interesting work while veeva is mostly maintaining old code. around the same tc considering their locations

unique wolf
# wary birch Wat

i'm nervous about my offer getting rescinded or my start date pushed, so to avoid that should I try to move my start date sooner

unique wolf
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wells fargo

autumn ridge
unique wolf
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I can move it from july -> feb

autumn ridge
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hmm I mean it would technically be safer but it doesn't fully protect you. Most companies would probably have layoffs accompanying new grad rescinds and you could possibly be safer with an offer pending vs if you already started

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tough call I probably wouldn't unless I wanted to start working earlier anyways. I don't think it really swings the needle either way.

grizzled bronze
normal palm
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anyone know the GCA score for samsara OA?

surreal shuttle
echo stratus
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would u be able to stay in school?

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perhaps do a masters?

cloud garnet
wind drum
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those 2 have high bars so you almost certainly need to solve the question

fossil jewel
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we let companies get away with so much

echo stratus
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unfortunately corporate america have no workers rights

prime palm
normal palm
normal palm
tulip egret
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is anywhere still open lol

prime palm
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Idk if they're even hiring new grad

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!process samsara is empty for new grad

cerulean basinBOT
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You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

normal palm
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new grad

normal palm
whole berry
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ah man

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everyone on visa i hope you guys are holding on

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this is terrible

teal jackal
normal palm
teal jackal
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Yes

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They probably ain't hiring

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Tbh

normal palm
teal jackal
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Just keeping the posting technically open

normal palm
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it's weird cuz their firmware GCA seems non-auto

teal jackal
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Sussy

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I wonder what's going on

surreal shuttle
teal jackal
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I went to a casino and won $2

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I turned $1 into $3

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Literally tripling my money

native lantern
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does palantir call to reject

teal jackal
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I quit immediately afterwards

fossil jewel
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big brain

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ik casino's make you win the first time so that you get a rush and gamble more

earnest summit
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Just go all on your first time

west egret
hasty birch
teal jackal
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I am immune to human psychology

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(continues to be addicted to discord)

native lantern
green pendant
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anyone knows what to expect from the DRW phone for software engineer?

tawdry skiff
quaint scarab
teal jackal
cloud garnet
quaint scarab
cold kernel
teal jackal
quaint scarab
rain patio
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how long does it usually take to hear back after Palantir karat? Took mine this past Friday

hollow forge
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I have my Mathworks EDG onsite this Thursday, does anyone have any tips? rn i'm just brushing up on OOP and the top LC interview problems

gloomy terrace
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Anyone had an akuna interview recently?

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It’s been a week and they haven’t gotten back

clear grotto
delicate cloak
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weird, Palantir said i would get decomp in HM round but i got coding

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anyways i think it went well so prayge

west egret
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Some people had two separate virtual on-site interviews on diff days. Not sure if that’s the process they have going for you?

hasty birch
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It'll be one after another, both eliminatory rounds (only get 2nd if you pass first)

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It'll be scheduled for really soon afterwards (could be same day or next)

delicate cloak
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is it confirmed that Palantir candidate survey = reject? how soon after HM do they usually send it?

prime palm
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i got survey and reject 1 hr later

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friend got survey and reject 3 days later

delicate cloak
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friend got the survey 3 days later too?

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haven't gotten it yet but super anxious lol

lament basin
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inbox dry asf

normal palm
# lament basin inbox dry asf

breh my inbox was dry for like the past 5 months and just this morning i got a phone and a weird OA that seems non-auto

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patience padawan

lament basin
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aaahhhhhhh

ornate cliff
normal palm
ornate cliff
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Nice LETS GOOOOOO

normal palm
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yeee

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ty

indigo raft
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hello big adulting friends who understand RSUs, if I have a 1yr cliff I don't vest till a year has passed right?

indigo raft
sand abyss
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if you're planning on staying at least a year, you should include stocks in your total comp

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even though you won't actually get the RSUs you earned until 1 year from your start date

indigo raft
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ahhh i see thank you mr. duck

sand abyss
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šŸ‘šŸ„š

pastel bane
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Ive heard some people say the Data Scientist and Data Engineer jobs are not as good as SWE jobs
and the data people are normally the first to be laid off
what do you think about it?

orchid aspen
autumn ridge
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What’s the difference between DS and MLE i know MLE get paid more for same level at Snap at least

pastel bane
orchid aspen
pastel bane
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and some say if you want to be a good data scientist, you need to be a good SWE first.
what do you think about it?

fossil jewel
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i think DE involves some actual swe things like Java/Scala

pastel bane
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from levels.fyi, SWE seems to have a higher upper limit in my dream company.
I didnt see L4 for Data Scientist in Indeed

fossil jewel
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DS is more math/stats and python

strange ore
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@fossil jewel is right

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or at least that’s what i’ve heard from current DSs

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data scientists use tools to work with processed data maybe graph them or something. data engineers will source and process data as well as create data relationships which requires ā€œengineeringā€ coding skills as opposed to scripting knowledge

fossil jewel
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also swe can involve data engineering

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like general swe roles can place you in that or sometimes its lumped with Backend engineering

timber rock
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my friend was a DE at meta, it's a lot of sql and data anlysis/visualization in python

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and building data pipelines and whatever

strange ore
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ofc a lot of places will use ds/de interchangeably in order to attract the candidates they want

nocturne oriole
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Fortune 500s

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Not easy but big list

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And doable

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Stable etc

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Tbh dont discriminate, just go hard

strange ore
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^

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don’t worry abt tech so much, fortune 500 is an incredibly good rec

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depends on the role

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a lot of the roles I looked at this year said they were accepting ppl within 0-1 yrs of graduation but ymmv

steel ember
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Nah you should get experience, that matters much much more in the long run

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More experience you have I think it’s easier to find a job

raven token
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Anyone do veeva team day?

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Is the jobs skills interview leetcode?

uneven fulcrum
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Any thoughts on Walmart, Sam's Club (95k Dallas) vs BB (155k NYC)?

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155k is base

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No sign on, 10k relocation and 23k target

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Yeah, looks nice but I am just worried it won't be enough for NYC cost of living, if I want to save a bit

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Do you still work at BB?

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Do you mind if I dm you?

west egret
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BB is nearly double the salary. I’d consider culture of each company as well.

dense seal
uneven fulcrum
west egret
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Its definitely 155 pre-tax

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Post tax would mean that you get 155k in your bank account assuming no other deductions and after taxes

fossil jewel
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massively regretting signing up for image processing

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lol the math gets annoying

whole berry
foggy perch
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huh did you end up jumping to an hft company out of curiosity?

fossil jewel
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i like math, and have taken a good amount

foggy perch
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or did you go the tech route

fossil jewel
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up to differential

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but image processing touches on signal processing which was my most annoying engineering course

foggy perch
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I'd choose Bloomberg over walmart for the arguably better career exit opportunities, but maybe idk enough about walmart (also depends on what you're gonna be working on at walmart)

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nyc probs also a better place to network for better opportunities later on

nocturne oriole
west egret
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Hypothetically, even if WM allowed you to save more money…How much extra would it be? Would that amount be worth giving up relative job security and brand name?

swift ridge
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does anybody know how long it takes palantir to get back to you after hiring manager round

winter aurora
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Does anyone know if palantirs comp changes per location? Can ppl who have offers dm if possible?

vital vault
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I’m questioning if WITCH has head counts this year, because I think their businesses are also affected by the tech downturn. I applied to Infosys weeks ago, got no response. Cognizant recruiter ghosted after oa, and I’m not the only one experiencing this. PepeHands PepeHands PepeHands

foggy perch
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ah the classic BB exit career path I've heard about

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I've always heard people from BB either go to Google or HFTs

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I imagine the meta job hoppers have rapidly dropped lmao

fallen fox
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does SoFi have any name in the industry? do recruiters even know about it?

lament basin
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tomorrow better not be a donowall

normal palm
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rescind them first thanos

primal pike
gloomy terrace
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Let’s make that 250k

brisk void
marsh sand
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Still no offers šŸ˜„

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Feels like I’ll fk up Palantir too XD

tribal moss
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for system design when people say grokking the coding interview is it the educative one?

bleak anchor
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i remember last year some companies adjusted their salary at the end of year... when does that typically happen?

swift bobcat
tribal moss
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ah I see thx

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is the stuff kinda basic in the course tho since the available sections on the website is just like class stuff

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is the examples the important part

swift bobcat
tribal moss
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makes sense

gloomy terrace
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is db still recruiting

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recruiter viewed my linkedin

pure mauve
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Yes apparently

eternal hatch
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What are some companies still hiring rn?

stable bear
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Bloomberg

teal jackal
late kestrel
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now i know your income wont stay the same over 30 years but you get the idea. relative savings are much higher even if CoL and taxes eat up a lot of the take home difference

west egret
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Also, checked a COL calculator and BB is technically paying 10k more than the equivalent of 95k(in Dallas). If you want a more accurate measure, do your own spreadsheet with your actual expenses.

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And some things are hard to quantify like not needing a car in NYC but a car being necessary in Dallas. Without a car, you don’t spend time finding parking, paying for parking, taking it to get oil changes/maintenance, commute while having to pay attention, etc

sage sluice
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anyone have any info / tips for google OA

earnest summit
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chatGPT

sage sluice
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dope thanks

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is the snapshot survey evaluated?

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like amazon LPs sort of thing?

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thanks again

grizzled bronze
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I'd recommend following up since it's been that many business days

delicate cloak
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lmaoooo NOW bloomberg wants to move forward after like 6 weeks of ghosting

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are companies starting to hire again or something

grizzled bronze
brisk void
winter thistle
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i got an email too but idk if this is final round or not

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i did my first round last month and my interviewer told me that he is passing me

delicate cloak
winter thistle
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okay then we are in the same boat

delicate cloak
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i think there are like 2 more technical rounds and an EM round?

winter thistle
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the email says

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its a 1 hour round

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so idk whats going on

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very little clarity

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its frustrating

delicate cloak
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yeah i mean they do them in separate stages

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p sure it goes phone > 2(?) VOs > EM

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this might be too little too late for me though

winter thistle
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also my bbg recruiter is very responsive over email

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"/s"

delicate cloak
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yeah it's a mess

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i wonder if they decided to unfreeze their process after the cpi report came out yesterday

fossil jewel
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HR before EM

delicate cloak
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oh wow

fossil jewel
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i stopped interviewing this season because it really put my grades in jeopardy lol

delicate cloak
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what do they even ask in the HR round that wouldn't be covered in EM

fossil jewel
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and mental health

delicate cloak
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yeah it's really exhausting

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don't blame you

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i'm done with school now but these companies drag out their processes for way too long and i've lost so many nights of sleep over it

late kestrel
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EM is a resume deep dive/project review and potentially sys design

delicate cloak
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i see

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idk i might back out. i don't have much interest in relocating to east coast and i'm already down to the wire needing to sign a new lease in the Bay

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need to move out first week of january

dawn lynx
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Anyone did the McKinsey’s last round?

fervent drift
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yo anyone take vanguard OA?

late kestrel
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PMG pays 68k?? WazowskiStare

west pagoda
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yeah i think they're doing staged VOs

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But with how slow they are idk if the process will complete before new year lol

stable wharf
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My company just did layoffs ā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļø

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That I’m gonna join

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They gonna pull a coinbase on me

dawn lynx
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How many round did you do before that? @glass knoll

teal jackal
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And do they ask u to do any coding and shit?

quick kindle
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would you take a job that uses rust/scala over java?

green pendant
delicate cloak
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interesting

glass knoll
foggy perch
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can confirm

brisk void
delicate cloak
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how fast does Palantir reject after HM

teal jackal
pure plank
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Guys anyone have given Walmart karat interview??

autumn ridge
# quick kindle would you take a job that uses rust/scala over java?

At the end of the day it's just a language so I don't think it should matter too much vs the company itself or the actual work you will be doing. That being said I do think Rust would be sweet but I would be slightly nervous about the learning curve if I didn't know it already. Scala I would be somewhat nervous just bc it's not very popular, also it depends on how your team is using it. I think if it's databricks style then it's a 100% non issue but would be slightly nervous if it was being used 100% functional

timber rock
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anything to avoid java

delicate cloak
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F

chilly burrow
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I started learning rust recently

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It's got a steep learning curve imo

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I'm not that productive in it yet

strange ore
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why do people want palantir so much? it doesn't seem like there's much growth or exit opportunities

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like I think ngs get paid the same as someone whos been there for like 5 years

timber rock
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money?

delicate cloak
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it's a prestigious name, pays well for NG, and (subjectively) involves some really interesting projects that you can't really find elsewhere

fossil jewel
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also they're actively hiring

delicate cloak
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for me though i mostly just want it as validation that i can crack an interview of that caliber, idk if i'd even take it

fossil jewel
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i mean i surprisingly passed the resume screen, idk how high the bar is but gg

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i withdrew when they send the OA though

karmic harness
fossil jewel
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yeah idk ethically i didnt wanna work on that software

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when i looked more into it

karmic harness
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if you want to help deport people great place to be

fossil jewel
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yeah ik people who would be targets and it felt wrong to be on that end

strange ore
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but the sources on that were before they went public

chilly burrow
fossil jewel
delicate cloak
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not gonna argue that some of their projects are extremely controversial

strange ore
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loll

chilly burrow
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Also som ppl only get 1~2 offers and don't have a variety of choices

delicate cloak
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i do wonder about their stock though

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it's at like $7 rn lol

grizzled bronze
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Most people can't be picky in these times anyway

karmic harness
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"ay man sorry for making software to deport you gotta make this 150k. hope you know i gotta eat."

timber rock
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i would volunteer to be deported for half of palantir's tc

chilly burrow
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I wouldn't šŸ˜ƒšŸ‘

fossil jewel
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yeah im not gonna judge anyone for taking the job

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gotta make money somehow

chilly burrow
karmic harness
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what can i hire you to do monkaHmm

native lantern
chilly burrow
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Not that they would do it, lol

fossil jewel
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yeah not for me, but i dont blame anyone for taking whatever job in this market

karmic harness
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ah okay

dull anchor
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Anyone interviewed for HRT data engineer role..?

teal jackal
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I'm honestly glad they resume rejected me after recruiter call(no team wanted to interview me)

strange ore
# native lantern why do you say no exit opps? not arguing, just curious what makes you say this

abs valid to question me. A lot of people like to place themselves in moral superiority when it comes to not working at palantir. You go on sites like blind/reddit/glassdoor and you hear anon swes saying shit like "you'll never get hired working for such a morally corrupt company." Also since Palantir is pretty much a consulting/data company, I don't know if they're seen in the industry as a leading tech company

fossil jewel
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yeah their about me is like "we help solve homelessness"

teal jackal
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I guess it's just the pay and high hiring bar

fossil jewel
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i mean palantir seems to have really big brained folks

teal jackal
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I'm probably never applying to palantir again

fossil jewel
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likewise, i think i applied to it in an applying spree and got past resume screen

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they sent me an OA when i was on vacay and told me i have 5 days to do it then emailed me again when i didnt do it

karmic harness
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theres nothing with using them as a practice interview

teal jackal
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Palantir has two resume screens, the second is after the recruiter call

karmic harness
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but idk kinda dirty about accepting a job from them

teal jackal
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You have to have a team express interest in order to get an onsite

fossil jewel
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yeah i just got the OA and saw something about graphs and i was like nope

karmic harness
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nah because they dont help deport people.

teal jackal
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Tbh social media isn't the same as building a surveillance state

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Social media is a choice tbh

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Being micromanaged by your government through data is not a choice

fossil jewel
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1984 KEK

strange ore
teal jackal
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I think so

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Palantirs bar to get a karat and recruiter call are nonexistent

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Everyone gets it

karmic harness
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now what facebook did in myanmar*?* idk

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it would depend on the work i would do there

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i guess

fossil jewel
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tech in general has a whole lot of unethical shit

strange ore
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my friends and I all applied to palantir days after each other and it was systematic, my friend applied something like 10/12 and me 10/13, she got the OA email 11/15 and I got it 11/16

teal jackal
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Makes sense

timber rock
teal jackal
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Would you work at juul for 300k tc

late kestrel
fossil jewel
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I applied 8/23, got OA invite 09/13, second reach out 09/22, withdrew 09/28

timber rock
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I got resume rejected too

teal jackal
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Oh I see

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Hm

strange ore
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send resume lol

teal jackal
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Then I guess there's two resume screenings at palantir

native lantern
late kestrel
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my resume is fine im chillin. it could have been the answer to why palantir on the app ig

teal jackal
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I guess there's two resume screenings at Google too, and at every other company that makes you team match before getting an offer

fossil jewel
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gonna be bad WLB

delicate cloak
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they aren't the ones making the hiring decisions

delicate cloak
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plenty of folks have gone from Palantir to Google

fossil jewel
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palantir is known for the high hiring bar, and known for having really bright engineers working there

delicate cloak
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will people judge you? sure, probably a small number though and an even smaller number that actually has any hand in hiring you

strange ore
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I love judging people

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,personally

fossil jewel
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always judging

teal jackal
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I dislike palantir a lot but I wouldn't be prejudiced against an applicant from there

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Or at least inherently prejudiced just because they were from palantir

timber rock
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i will work for wheoever gives me more green paper

teal jackal
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If they unironically support predictive policing then I'm rejecting them

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Regardless of their interview performance

orchid aspen
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palantir is not very well known, even in tech, so i dont think theres that much prejudice

native lantern
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i woudl disagree

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i think its known, maybe not to the extent of big tech, but more so than you might think

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everyone not in tech i have talked to knows about it

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or most people ig

torpid birch
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Palantir is pretty well known tho

orchid aspen
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i had a guy from meta helping me prep and he asked wtf is palantir

torpid birch
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Does he know what datadog is

orchid aspen
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idk

delicate cloak
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it's well known within tech circles

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not to the general public

delicate cloak
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that's a good question lol

foggy perch
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i imagine it's just a performance bonus yearly

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maybe they have loose levels like bb?

delicate cloak
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i watched one of their demos where the dude said he voluntarily went from being tech lead to just a single contributor

elder locust
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has anyone completed a technical interview in codesignal? are the questions similar to what the codesignal OA looks like?

outer radish
foggy perch
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same

teal jackal
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Tbh if flipping burgers made 300k, the hiring bar would require a culinary degree from tohtsuki as a minimum

marble wind
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Anyone have recommendations for the best react/js course?

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Preferrably, free/on yt

fossil jewel
marble wind
#

Thanks!

#

That course looks great

lament basin
#

pls

sage sluice
#

its been closed for a long time

#

opened up for a few days in august

lament basin
#

ah

sage sluice
#

sorry

#

i got zucked as well

lament basin
#

all good no worries

#

oh no

#

i picked facebook over google last year

teal jackal
orchid aspen
teal jackal
#

Same

orchid aspen
lament basin
#

it’s ugly out here

foggy perch
#

same

delicate cloak
#

i applied to google 3x with referral including most recently with August with 2 internships including FAANG and never so much as gotten an OA from them lol

grizzled bronze
#

Has anyone here successfully been able to pull a bait and switch (i.e. applying for an internship, but then having them consider you for a full-time offer instead?) thanos

small mountain
timber rock
small mountain
#

thankse

livid yew
#

worryweird dollars dont work

#

you must not be in/from US

timber rock
#

very astute observation

livid yew
small mountain
#

whats the wlb like

grizzled bronze
small mountain
grizzled bronze
timber rock
#

can you guys open an office here and hire me

small mountain
#

do you get a work laptop

timber rock
#

whats up with you and your obsession with work laptops

#

did you find out what they are giving you

small mountain
#

i am not using a shitter

timber rock
#

youre gonna get a shock when they give youa chromebook

pure mauve
#

From those who have passed hm rounds, what are your tips for doing exceptionally well?

small mountain
autumn ridge
fossil jewel
#

people already do, just discretely lol

teal jackal
#

A shit ton of people vape at work

#

A ton of people at Amazon in summer 2022 do

fossil jewel
#

in school too

#

i talk to someone and all of a sudden i smell fruit

quasi jackal
autumn ridge
#

I'm on the zyn life so no more vaping for me but I would start again if I could in the office

teal jackal
#

^

sage sluice
#

super easy

#

we'll see if theyre even interviewing

gloomy terrace
nocturne oriole
#

For any haters who say only tech/startups "overhired". Everyone is getting wrecked.

tribal moss
#

did the ramp front end just come out or was it out a while ago

frozen tapir
#

Did anyone sign bloomberg? If so did you guys print the offer and send it to your recruiter?

#

did anyone get an email back from sterling?

prime palm
unique swan
#

Do u guys think there will be more chance for us in Jan and Feb?

night magnet
#

Just curious-does amazon still price in 15% YoY stock appreciation in RSU grants?

nocturne oriole
#

Yeah ur right. Market has been mostly unkind to tech/real estate/finance/maybe retail or service workers

nocturne seal
#

PayPal reject at 3 am

wheat seal
#

Airtable is struggling?

#

Who is hiring tho

#

For non tech

#

I can’t think of anyone really

teal jackal
#

What a year huh

#

What a great year to be alive

chilly burrow
chilly burrow
#

Didn't FB also give out hella offers last year?

wheat seal
#

Pin didn’t

#

Pin only has 1k swe

#

And 3k employees total

delicate cloak
#

i mean that was just supposed to be an additional data point, but the person right above said they had an OA with an August application

indigo raft
#

do you guys think it’s still worth negotiating if u don’t have competing offer

weary flax
#

yes

indigo raft
#

Scary

tardy geode
#

as an international student this is probably the worst phase of my life. the mental stress and anxiety is off the charts . 😢

pulsar mural
karmic harness
orchid aspen
#

international students lets go back to our home countries and make build our own tech industries

#

fk silicon valley

marsh sand
#

Does anyone know about Balyasny Asset Management?

orchid maple
#

if a company asks you if you're gonna need/want housing, is saying "yes" a red flag?

unique swan
#

anyone doing the ramp challenge ?

orchid maple
late kestrel
orchid maple
late kestrel
green pendant
west pagoda
distant rampart
#

now i kinda understand why people marry for a green card here sadge

honest sundial
quiet pasture
fallen fox
#

didnt get return offer from internship

tardy geode
#

volunteer roles ? any examples?

#

you had amazon offer?

livid yew
sonic coral
#

Identity access management?

#

Oh lol they deleted

naive chasm
#

?

grizzled bronze
unique swan
#

No

night magnet
#

Can’t even get a job flipping burgers

outer radish
#

anyone got any tips on getting consistent 820+ on codesignal?

night magnet
#

Worst job market of all time

#

Just wanted to make some delicious golden-brown fries 😭

livid yew
grizzled bronze
# night magnet

McDonalds and ChickFilA are already really competitive regardless of how the market is

primal pike
#

mcdonalds hard lc soon

deep wasp
fossil jewel
quartz vale
#

Bruh apple interviewer asked me how do you know if your computer programs stack is increasing or decreasing

#

Basically an embedded software interview :"D

#

I failed miserably

prime palm
quartz vale
#

@prime palm heard you finished the new grad grind

#

Big congrats brother

prime palm
#

Thank god

fossil jewel
#

congratssss

white escarp
rain patio
tawdry skiff
split plaza
rain patio
#

Wat company is that

#

Havent heard

tawdry skiff
split plaza
#

fintech startup

rain patio
#

šŸ‘

west egret
#

@prime palm congratulations homie

foggy perch
rain patio
#

Tech industry ---- Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad.

wary birch
quartz vale
#

without using library

slim mortar
#

pain

normal palm
#

"if the fan gets louder then it's increasing"

forest ice
#

Can anyone tell what is Veeva final like?

hearty orbit
#

anyone hve offers at amazon rescinded?

rain patio
#

True af

eternal mortar
ionic venture
eternal mortar
silk sinew
#

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmCPQippo6x/ nice interview @wheat forum subtle plug šŸ™Œ šŸ’€

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normal palm
tardy geode
split plaza
#

anyone know how SpaceX HM round is

hazy egret
#

Is bbg sys des acc sys design or more like ood?

rain patio
#

Ood

chilly burrow
hazy egret
#

when are bbg start dates? July August?

left shoal
#

anyone got suggestions for tiktok oa

#

how was it like

late kestrel
lament basin
#

tomorrow better be a good day

rain patio
lament basin
rain patio
unique swan
#

If Im trying to in join a start up can I enter the server?

modest night
#

hey anyone interview with hive

#

ceo emailed me to talk

#

dont know if that means offer or another technical round lmao

tall plover
#

I mean, that's cool but just be prepared for startup-centric conversations I guess lol

normal palm
#

uh oh i dont know if i can handle that

tall plover
#

lol

unique swan
#

if it is the CEO then it isnt a technical round

#

if it is the CTO then yes

tall plover
#

^^ usually it's a behavioral or culture match interview if it's a ceo

modest night
#

he just said lets chat

#

and all my interviews were scheduled through recruiter

tall plover
#

how many rounds have you had so far

unique swan
#

you've done all the previous technical one right?

modest night
#

i had 4 technical rds with my last rd being with cto

unique swan
#

then ur fine it isnt a technical round

modest night
#

so like offer then i guess lol?

unique swan
#

yeah kinda probably some behavioral question then offer

modest night
#

yk im curious how did the ceo make time for me or any other ng

cyan heath
#

Is there anyone who is yet to receive information regarding amazon offer ? Did the offer delay applied to every new grad and return intern ?

modest night
#

thats the first q imma ask him

#

and i mean it in a polite way

#

like is it company culture thing?

normal palm
#

how bigs the company

modest night
#

its a startup but its also been around for like 6 years or so

unique swan
#

what role did you apply to

modest night
#

like a general backend engineering role

normal palm
#

"ceo" lol

unique swan
#

my interviewer at Hive screwed me at the last round

fair zinc
#

is hive still hiring?

unique swan
#

yes

fair zinc
#

how can they be still hiring

normal palm
#

bruhh for real?

fair zinc
#

no one accepts the offer from hive?

normal palm
#

i thought awad made twilio rich

fair zinc
#

i mean there are too many seekers

normal palm
#

so they made interns work like dogs and said cya later

#

feelsbadman

fossil jewel
#

bad wlb?

normal palm
#

not sure actually

#

i just thought since higher competition, people naturally worked harder

fossil jewel
#

honestly never heard about twillo till i started participating in MLH hackathons

normal palm
#

you'd be surprised how many massive things we don't know about ))

#

how is twilio somehow not profitable is the question

#

did they grossly overestimate their revenue growth

fossil jewel
#

yeah thats when i heard about em, for 2fa stuff

#

i mean what other competitors are there?

normal palm
#

interesting

fossil jewel
#

oh true

normal palm
#

not surprised there lol

fossil jewel
#

ik gcp got their own thing too , and something for calls

normal palm
#

aws is the only website that i've encountered that makes you clear cache to get logged in to ur account

fossil jewel
#

i still need to learn aws

#

and how to

normal palm
#

depends on what ur using it for, aws by itself is massive

#

u can't learn all of it or you'd frankly be wasting ur time

#

oh ur at zon

fossil jewel
#

could be backend too

#

team's flexible

normal palm
#

oh cool

fossil jewel
#

i remember looking at aws educate

normal palm
#

computer vision?

fossil jewel
#

no cv

#

looks promising

primal pike
#

its true but its a grind to get those

open plank
#

@modest night ceo round is almost always a 15min offer call

buoyant pulsar
#

Microsoft just emailed me after 1 month since I received feedback from OA + behavioral. They said that they won't have an update until early next year and that they'll come back to me asap
Broo I atleast wanna know whether or not im still in the wait list

ivory stratus
#

For Inter ship or new grad

#

Cause if it’s new grad, probs reject

buoyant pulsar
#

It's internship

buoyant pulsar
ivory stratus
#

Oh was bout to say

buoyant pulsar
civic crystal
#

AMA: Haven’t been active in awhile here but I’m an ICT4 at Apple after one year. This Discord helped me A LOT. I want to give back and answer any questions y’all have minus ā€œcan you give me a recommendation.ā€ (short answer is I won’t, it requires a lot of writing and personal vouching)

Please feel free to DM too! Purely coming back just to advocate and support wherever I can!

Bio: non-traditional BS CS/Math grad with a few years of work experience prior to CS

jaunty basalt
#

I guess should give some context, I got an offer, and couldn’t get Cupertino, Seattle or NYC. Reason was limited spots and apparently Austin has the same number of spots as NYC yet there’s a campus there?

#

Also if you talk a bit about the office ur at

split plaza
jaunty basalt
#

For me it’s the latter

#

Seen some people here say iOS experience but idts

split plaza
#

do you go to a target

#

or like SJSU

jaunty basalt
#

No

#

U won’t know the name of the school probably but we consistently have people go there

#

I assume that’s what it was cuz my resume was so mid

#

I’m east coast

wheat seal
#

Is Amazon prime business critical for amazon?

civic crystal
# jaunty basalt Also if you talk a bit about the office ur at

I'm in Austin and personally I chose this office over the others. The city has a lot more to offer nearby than the others and it's overall just a lot off fun. For now the office situation depends a lot on team, in my case I like it because mine is mostly in CA so more or less this mean I'm 100% remote

civic crystal
civic crystal
# teal jackal Did you job hop into apple?

previous message answers it. but really just think it was a lot of luck/timing when i applied. did not go to even a t20 school. got a recruiter response and just did well in interviews

prime palm
jaunty basalt
#

New grad for me is ict2

#

Some people can start at ict3

civic crystal
jaunty basalt
#

That’s mad fast

#

Have you mentor or work with any ict2?

#

Or at least know how long they took to get to ict3 where they’re not hourly anymore lmaocry

grizzled bronze
# civic crystal **AMA:** Haven’t been active in awhile here but I’m an ICT4 at Apple after one y...

Congrats! Dang, ICT4 is senior level https://www.levels.fyi/companies/apple/salaries/software-engineer/levels/ict4. One year from new grad to senior? Is that common at Apple? You must be a super genius 😲

Levels.fyi

The median total compensation package for a ICT4 at Apple is $378,507. View more Software Engineer salary ranges with breakdowns by base, stock, and bonus amounts.

civic crystal
# jaunty basalt Have you mentor or work with any ict2?

no i just negotiated based on a return intern offer from amazon. they came back with ict3. but honestly being thrown straight in was kind of great. i got a lot of direct feedback an mentorship straight from staff/principal engineers which really helped me develop faster than i think i could of otherwise

winter loom
#

how do you guys manage to get responses from apple

civic crystal
grizzled bronze
civic crystal
#

target positions that are as close to a 1-to-1 match as you can find compared to your experience you can quantify on your resume

also like i said initially, i'll answer any question that doesn't have to do with referrals

grizzled bronze
jaunty basalt
#

It had to be the org

civic crystal
#

at the end of the day it all comes down to timing and numbers

jaunty basalt
#

Idk it’s org has to be

#

I had msft, amzn, Atlassian, Bloomberg, coombase etc

grizzled bronze
civic crystal
jaunty basalt
#

But Austin looks very nice

civic crystal
#

tbh any day of the week i'd take austin over nearby san jose

jaunty basalt
#

Yeah plus for me hourly either way so dead

split plaza
jaunty basalt
#

Ik there’s overtime but like bro

grizzled bronze
jaunty basalt
#

Oh yeah refreshers are insane

civic crystal
grizzled bronze
jaunty basalt
#

Yeah for me it was a month

#

To get phone screen

#

It’s very fast after that

civic crystal
#

i'd honestly most recommend finding positions where your resume is as close as a match it can be

hitting up hiring managers is kind of pointless since you'll probably just be randomly emailing SWE managers

jaunty basalt
#

Just apply online

#

Like a normal person

civic crystal
#

i have no idea if cold emailing recruiters is beneficial, but from here in the past it's worked for some people

jaunty basalt
#

It works for people

grizzled bronze
#

Few people here have been able to get an internship offer by cold emailing. But the people I've seen are geniuses with impressive past work experience and they've been able to get a lot of other good internships. So if you're good at that then it might work, but for most people it won't.

jaunty basalt
#

But you end up not liking the role

#

They look they just don’t want you sure

#

So pick the generic role or the specific one that looks similar

#

Most of my time on the portal was making a new Apple ID kekw

#

Not looking at role of best fit

grizzled bronze
split plaza
jaunty basalt
#

Kinda

#

There’s evolve

#

Which is rotational program

#

Barely any spots according to my recruiter

#

Hence no Cupertino for me

jaunty basalt
#

Cmon now, we shiny gyarados

nocturne seal
#

I failed a behavioral for evolvesadge

teal jackal
#

Facebook was receptive to cold emailing, most companies will ghost or tell you to get back in line when you cold email

#

Cold emailing doesn't work

#

It doesn't work more often than it works

shut crescent
#

have most apps closed?

teal jackal
#

A lot sure have

wooden pulsar
#

Anyone here applying for SWE positions in EU? Pls DM.

teal jackal
#

But tbh I was getting serially resume rejected in the first wave of job apps anyways

shut crescent
#

how good do you think an offer of 120k for data engineering is

#

for first year

wooden pulsar
#

How long has it been? I have given the first VO round and now their next empty slot is mid Jan

#

😢

#

This is for London location tho

grizzled bronze
shut crescent
#

i do live in california, but am not going to be paying rent

#

i wonder how much take home will be after 401k/taxes haha

#

i wonder how accurate this thing is

#

seems pretty accurate tho

#

lol

wooden pulsar
#

IKR they told me all three rounds would be same day and after my first VO, they don't have slots lol

shut crescent
#

this economy is so bad lol

west pagoda
shut crescent
#

and whenever transportation takes a hit, its not a good indication for a good future haha

teal jackal
#

The recession will hit everyone else later tbh

shut crescent
#

and this hit has been worldwide, not only to united states

#

def a big recession coming

teal jackal
#

Tech grew the fastest so it's the first that's gotta implode

wooden pulsar
#

hope that 2023 is a better year.. I am still waiting for a good FT offer

teal jackal
#

Youth unemployment is a global phenomenon now

#

I'm grateful that I have a lot of prior internships and a good degree

#

At least I'm not the most vulnerable to a recession fucking over c/o23

#

(I don't wish that on anyone though)

shut crescent
#

yeah but the thing is, people having a good degree doesn't set you apart anymore tbh

teal jackal
#

I feel like the fed has taken the recession route over letting inflation ruin everyone's standard of living

shut crescent
#

anyone can get laid off at this point

teal jackal
#

It's still a shock how many people don't realize that a degree isn't enough

#

You gotta get a job before you get a job LOLFUNNY

shut crescent
#

its probably going to be one of the worst recessions we are going to see here lol

teal jackal
#

Internships be like

shut crescent
#
Product    Interest rate    APR
30-year fixed-rate    6.024%    6.129%
20-year fixed-rate    5.666%    5.800%
15-year fixed-rate    5.314%    5.486%
10-year fixed-rate    5.096%    5.361%
``` lmao
#

i feel bad for families who were just going to buy a home

#

and saved up 5-10 years for one

teal jackal
#

When the feds print too much money they have to punish us eventually

#

Homes were selling like crazy last year

#

Early 2021

shut crescent
#

yeah i mean they are still going to sell but damn

#

the payments on these are not going to be fun

teal jackal
#

Interest rates were so good back then

shut crescent
#

ikr

#

they more than doubled now

#

its actually crazy

#

so has anyone been abusing chatgpt for assignments

teal jackal
#

Nah I finished my last writing intensive classes right as chatgpt rolled out

nocturne seal
#

I’ve been trying to use it for linear algebra

#

Wrong a lot of times

marsh sand
#

Same with ML code; it’s wrong with like fourier transform and stuff

#

Palantir’s closed til Jan 5th apparently

#

Recruiter said they’re all going on holiday

old smelt
#

It can write nice code, I see it as a much better alternative to stack overflow

teal jackal
#

Chatgpt is just good at bullshitting a verbose and gramatically correct answer

#

There's pretty much zero guarantee of objectivity or correctness

old smelt
teal jackal
#

But tbh chatgpt being able to come up with bullshit that's grammatically correct is still really impressive

#

It's bullshit but at least it looks like real English

shut crescent
#

is it even worth applying to big tech nowadays

old smelt
#

It can't handle ambiguity which is why you still need a competent developer

shut crescent
#

seems like they are just auto denying

old smelt
#

But it's a great way to code less lol

teal jackal
#

It's 5 minutes of effort

#

The answer is a unanimous yes

#

Resume reject be damned

shut crescent
#

true

old smelt
#

Well I'm not sure what you asked but everything I've tried works great

pulsar mural
#

@queen valve u lied

jaunty basalt
old smelt
#

It won't create anything novel. It's trained on internet data. It can spit out boiler plate code for you

grizzled bronze
#

Yuckuna @pulsar mural

jaunty basalt
#

Profile pic go crazy

old smelt
#

It gave you some good options still. if you add more context to the question it will help

pulsar mural
#

:sure:

marsh sand
#

Hola

frank wedge
marsh sand
#

Yup; it defo wont replace us in the near future

#

But then it passed Meta’s E3 bar lmao

old smelt
#

For sure, I think it's a great "assistant" for developers. It can replace scouring thru stack overflow, write unit tests, boilerplate code, etc.

marsh sand
#

Omg my term’s finally over

#

Time to grind sysdesign

nocturne oriole
nocturne oriole
#

I know u dont respect yourself but maybe respect others

tawdry skiff
green pendant
honest holly
#

anyone joining hive? got an offer but very sus of the wlb and culture

open plank
#

also considering it lol hive's yield must be terrible

plush lily
#

is it true that palantir new grad offers are non-negotiable?

tawdry skiff
#

Just like how I pop dn in your mouth

weary flax
open plank
#

like #ppl accepting the offer/# offers given out

teal jackal
#

Ah

#

Tbh I'd be careful about accepting hive even though team blind reviews aren't that bad

#

At least on average now

open plank
#

yeah no clue whats actually happening in there

teal jackal
#

Sigh

sonic coral
teal jackal
#

Tbh the hive process gives off a "we have no idea what we're doing" feeling since it's 4 45 min leetcode interviews

#

A lot of caution flags but no outright red flags

open plank
#

i mean thats no different from all the faang interviews

teal jackal
#

Hm tru

#

Tbh leetcode is more standardized than stuff like sysdesign, pair programming, and language trivia

#

Language trivia is for boomers tbh

fallen fox
#

SoFi's final round was entirely language trivia

#

miserable interview almost made me quit

teal jackal
#

Language trivia is objectively a dogshit metric

#

All it tests is if you remember the right shit at the right time

open plank
#

yup

teal jackal
fossil jewel
#

ORLY

teal jackal
#

I love o'Reilly parodies

west pagoda
livid yew
fossil jewel
#

O Reilly got good books ngl

fossil jewel
livid yew
#

Books in 2023 WazowskiStare

fossil jewel
#

(i can get them for free aPES_Giggle )

livid yew
#

Last programming book I read was HTML back in uhh 2015

thick shell
fossil jewel
#

books for html OMEGALUL

livid yew
livid yew
#

I didn't need it

#

But HTML does get complicated

teal jackal
#

My dad is a cringelord boomer tbh, he unironically asks language trivia

fossil jewel
#

mozilla docs are the best

livid yew
teal jackal
#

What's that

livid yew
#

Can't be done with work until this is all green

fossil jewel
#

looks like tests

livid yew
#

Deploy pipelines

#

Tests happen before and after

fossil jewel
#

ah

teal jackal
#

Ah

livid yew
#

We test on docker build, and then again once it's deployed

#

@pulsar mural

teal jackal
#

Sounds right

livid yew
#

Yep

lime mulch
#

anyone have any insight into what its like working at ramp? e.g. culture and wlb

strange ore
#

For those that went thru the palantir process - is the call with your recruiter after the phone screen but before the VO also an interview or is it truly just to help you prep for the VO

open plank
#

just prep

split plaza
strange ore
#

bro not again šŸ’€

#

ty tho

#

šŸ™

fossil jewel
#

why palantir? to launch missiles

#

gl prayge

strange ore
#

if it's full or not idc experience interviewing is experience

livid yew
#

true

livid yew
#

oof

#

but yeah good luck @strange ore

strange ore
#

yea I saw this one, messed up. they're international grads tho so it's posible palantir is maxed on sponsorships

#

as far as I've seen the hc claims have been from international grads

livid yew
#

Just don't be international, problem solved KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

strange ore
#

bloblove bloblove shoutout my international homies

grizzled bronze
native lantern
#

FDSE NY i dont believe is full

nocturne seal
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a few palantir offers today

tall plover
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If anyone here is joining/already at a startup or unicorn, feel free to join this server intended for startup+unicorn new grads and interns: https://discord.gg/JyVpreR25X

fervent fern
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my one job offer got rescinded, back in the hiring game
so who's still hiring lol?

distant rampart
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so sorry to hear that 😦 which company?

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i think if u don't need a visa sponsorship, there are still few companies who are hiring

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if u need a visa sponsorship, bloomberg and palantir were the only few that were hiring a lot of new grads but they are full now

fervent fern
distant rampart
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damn... so sorry. I'm also on an F1 visa. Apparently, some ppl do volunteer work / unpaid jobs so visa doesnt expire. If you have already graduated and only have 2-3 months to find a job, that's def one of the options

blissful sonnet
distant rampart
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yeah i think for some position they provide visa

fervent fern
fervent fern
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hopefully šŸ™ tho it seems like jpow is gonna drive the economy into a recession so not very optimistic here

distant rampart
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yeah. probably doing it at school will be safest / easiest to find

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i wish i knew someone who does a startup so i can just write the companies name and keep searching for jobs sadge

green pendant
teal jackal
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You can get rejected

fervent fern
green pendant
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I mean they are still accepting apps

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and someone on the subreddit got a phone screen last week

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thing is it would be backlogged till like Feb at least

distant rampart
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yeah u should still apply

green pendant
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is it possible to do the ramp challenge on the cloud somewhere? like I have a potato laptop so was wondering if that's plausible

fervent fern
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then i suppose it’a good idea