2023_grads

[wheat seal]

Oh nice

And actually wait I just realized we talked before

U changed ur username

And profile pic

[fervent drift]

no sir

[sage sluice]

can i dm

[wheat seal]

Oh Wally would be in Arizona I think

[fervent drift]

shits too hot

id die

[compact sundial]

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[tardy geode]

yeah sure

[random canyon]

Anyone know what goes next after passing Karat interview for Palantir? I have a phone call scheduled with my recruiter but what goes after that? And could I possibly fail at the phone call stage?

[vernal idol]

advice for new grad recruiting rn with a strong resume? (databricks, meta, aws internships on resume)

don't really see a lot of open applications, is the move to just cold email?

no rip 😢 (got rejected from a lot of quant already)

ah i see. thx

any ideas how effective just reaching out to recruiters is? is it even worth the effort

[eager gazelle]

Personally, reaching out to recruiters never worked - 0% response rate. What did work was connecting with alumni at the company, asking for a call, then in the call asking if they could connect me with a recruiter. With that strong of a resume they'd have no reason not to. I sent like 5 LI messages, 2 responded and moved my app forward

[outer radish]

what do you usually say when you reached out to an alumni

[eager gazelle]

1 sentence about why I like the company. Another sentence about how my past work connects with the company's work, then end with "would love to setup a call to learn more".

[nocturne oriole]

@waxen kayak explain

[dense blaze]

EL KIRB

[nocturne oriole]

[waxen kayak]

an event that will stick with the class until they die

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/harambe-america-murica-flag-waving-gif-17339298

[teal jackal]

whats worse, job apps or college apps

job apps for me tbh

[teal jackal]

recruiters generally ignore cold emails, or if they don't ignore them, they're being nice and want to be honest when they tell you to get back in line since a cold email isnt gonna be what shortcuts you past resume screen

at least this season, cold emailing is unlikely to do anything other than jack shit

i still try since im addicted to hopium

[timber rock]

this is barely even a competition

[marsh sand]

How many Qs do they ask at BB phone? 2?

[timber rock]

1 or 2

[teal jackal]

2 usually

[timber rock]

uni apps are a piece of piss

[teal jackal]

hm i guess i had it ez for college apps

[timber rock]

i mean idk about america but here you apply to everywhere through the same portal so you basically just tick a box for the unis you want to apply to and click send and it does it all at once

[teal jackal]

grow up in rich town + dont care about going to an ivy + good grades = basically guaranteed admissions to a lot of schools

i coasted through college apps

i feel like with college apps, at least there was some type of light at the end of the tunnel for me

my town got hella competitive too

[timber rock]

i went to a deprived school so got lower entry requirements 😎😎

[teal jackal]

was i just lucky?

[timber rock]

even tho i lived in a good area

[teal jackal]

not sure

the school i go to, i was basically guaranteed to get into

[marsh sand]

Can I expect my BB interviewer to not show up tomorrow

lowkey not prepared LMAO

[teal jackal]

probs

[marsh sand]

I'm looking at candy crush and I'm like wtaf

[timber rock]

i think they give an easier 1d version of it for phone

if u get it

[marsh sand]

Ohhhh okok

[timber rock]

here it was like

my uni wanted straight A's but i only needed 3 A's and 2 B's cause my school was deprived

absolutely no complaints from me

[marsh sand]

lmao speaking of schools let's talk about UK private schools

[teal jackal]

yeah i was the rich and lazy kid

Lmao

[marsh sand]

they give your grades based on the school's prestige

cuz if you get a low grade it looks bad for the school

so EVERYONE gets above an A

if you get B it means like you did HORRIBLE

[timber rock]

uk exams are anonymous and standardized

how would that even happen

[marsh sand]

talking about predicted grades

and how people got in w predicted grades few years ago

[teal jackal]

My cousin went to a private boarding school in north carolina, dude got a 1300 SAT and got all As on his honors and AP classes at his boarding school

[marsh sand]

due to COVID

[timber rock]

oh right

[teal jackal]

the private boarding school's job is to get people into good colleges

my school was big on grade deflation

we had tough classes

[marsh sand]

any IB gang here?

[timber rock]

yeah uk had this thing during covid where bad schools would get their grades put down lol

[marsh sand]

wish I could go back in time to do either AP or A Levels

and do competitive programming on the side

[timber rock]

so people could have A's all year and get given B's

[marsh sand]

I'd be MUCH more successful

[timber rock]

They matter a lot here

Every uni has a specific set of subjects and grades you must take to get into that major

[marsh sand]

Yup... UK is like get good test scores or don't join uni

i.e. my condition was A*AA which is like pretty hard to get

[timber rock]

Mine was AAAA but cause of the aforementioned school thing I only needed AAABB

[marsh sand]

at least we're in uni lmao

this job grind is

so taxing on my mind tho

[timber rock]

Actually mine was unconditional but that was the "typical requirement" or whatever

[hasty birch]

Yup, complete waste of time

[crude saffron]

I failed the ib club interview for my school

[quartz vale]

just got some news..

The drw oa is not auto lol

[marsh sand]

huh wot

so I passed their resume and failed their OA?

LMAO

two years in a row too

damn

[quartz vale]

at least that was someone in drw told me ...

their OA is codility which doesn't show hidden testcases at all

that's so tricky lol

[marsh sand]

DRW OA is like the HARDEST OA I've ever seen

it's closer to number theory than coding

[quartz vale]

I'm on hopium right now I hope I can get an interview from DRW pls

[whole roost]

opposite experience for me, although I'm from Canada

[dense blaze]

EL GATO

[whole roost]

Went to a lower income high school, I wish my classes had been harder

Would've prepared me for uni better

[sage skiff]

That was the same experience with me. I had to grind to pretty much learn what my classmates already knew

[marsh sand]

I hope my BB gets postponed tomorrow

really not ready

(UK)

[dense blaze]

AP supremacy

[dense blaze]

Tbf this is no longer an excuse with the amount of free resources out there

[foggy perch]

meh I think it's debatable on how visible those resources are as a highschooler tho

school also just provides a more structured way to force you to learn

[dense blaze]

You have to have a particular mindset that is true.

[whole roost]

true but as a 17 year old I wasn't thinking about the difficulty of all of my courses and how I should self-teach at a higher level

[foggy perch]

idk to me it's like the same idea of people technically being able to become self-taught devs

which while true

[dense blaze]

Yeah it’s hard to have that mindset at such a young age.

[foggy perch]

is not in your favor

ye

[whole roost]

like for me it was enough to be doing well in my courses, get into UBC and play cod during my free time lol

[dense blaze]

Ah i grew up in the third world so my parents taught me to self teach myself stuff at a young age.

[foggy perch]

ah a canadian

only thing I know about UBC is that it's apparently super depressing, based off what I've heard from a UBC cs friend

lmao

[dense blaze]

And like I had the anxiety of not having a safety net as in other countries

[whole roost]

yes, a wild Canadian

[whole roost]

makes sense, definitely a big difference in our circumstances growing up

[dense blaze]

While true. I still think we all are drivers of our own future 🙂 it’s never late to develop a new mindset or ability

[whole roost]

if you live on campus and are outgoing, it's a lot of fun

but if youre a commuter student, yes its very depressing lol

[foggy perch]

they lived on campus

ig they were just bad at meeting people

[whole roost]

for sure, thats a good mindset to have

[foggy perch]

I've also just been sent many posts from my friend of /r/UBC people being depressed

lmao

that and horny

[whole roost]

ill be honest, the type of ppl to be frequenting reddit are probs on the more reserved/introverted side

[foggy perch]

rip

[whole roost]

i use reddit a lot too

[dense blaze]

uOttawa is worse. Had like 5 suicides in residence during my time there

[whole roost]

but yeah if you lived on campus as a 1st year, very easy to make friends

[whole roost]

jesus christ

[dense blaze]

Yeah it was baaaaad.

Kanada

[whole roost]

Humans aren't designed to be in constant fight or flight mode. That sort of sustained stress that students face is not healthy

[dense blaze]

Lmao I’m sure I have chronic stress from undergrad

Or PTSD

[whole roost]

same lol

exercise + meditation help a lot tho

[dense blaze]

I am a long distance runner and I got into it to cope with the stress

[whole roost]

Nice, yeah a good run is great for stress

[dense blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-mascot-running-away-gif-15262317

[outer radish]

do company tagged factor into hackerrank questions on leetcode

[eternal mortar]

in my experience, no

[nocturne seal]

I have a proctored hackerrank for datadog

Scared imma fumble and can’t search for answer

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/pitbull-cod-zombies-bo2zombies-black-ops-zombies-black-ops2zombies-gif-24753957

[teal jackal]

I disagree 100% with this

I think it's still a valid excuse

Because tbh I was hella lost and confused with self learning back in high school

im substantially better at self driven learning now

I honestly think that what makes a child prodigy is just high emotional intelligence during childhood, and being lucky to have really good structure in life or a god tier self learner

this is tangential

[teal jackal]

or parents breathing down your neck and managing every minute of your life as a child

that is also not uncommon

[rigid quail]

self-learning requires a boat load of motivation especially for more tedious mathematical concepts like in cs for instance

i think for the majority of people here, either have very high achieving parents who have pushed them very hard, or some passion for math, cs, money or a combination of the three

[nocturne seal]

Bruh datadog OA had me doing REST API requests

I’ve never done that

[wheat seal]

Nice

[wheat seal]

I could barely go outside lol

[rigid quail]

sorry if it’s a bit direct but i’m curious how did that pan out for you?

[wheat seal]

I’m fine

[wheat seal]

U mean like overall ?

[rigid quail]

yeah like how do you compare to the average american person your age now

[wheat seal]

I feel like I have mid life crisis at 22 tbh it feels weird

[rigid quail]

most kids i know have 0 discipline and no attention span

[wheat seal]

I’ve graduated and make good money as a swe

[rigid quail]

but also never been managed like that, the ones that did either thrived or were broken at some point in highschool

[wheat seal]

Yea honestly parents need to relax

I also played an instrument and wanted to quit but I couldn’t lol

[rigid quail]

it’s good to strike a balance

[wheat seal]

I hated playing instrument

[wheat seal]

It’s better to be more independent when young

Tbh

[rigid quail]

you’re so impressionable when you’re young you’re never really independent

you’re just learning from other people, so some parents take it upon themself to shape your brain themselves instead of having your environment fill in the gaps over the years

[wheat seal]

Canada?

Does Canada have lot of swe jobs?

Wait ur in HS?

Not college?

Oh so ur sophomore

Ur applying FT. Or internships

Full time

Oh gotchu

No leetcode ?

[drifting adder]

I assumed it got hacked, I am trying to change password now

[pure plank]

Anyone of you given Pure Storage Initial phone interview??? How to prepare for the concurrency round any idea??

[livid yew]

Welcome to zoomers

Turned 15, got my first smartphone. attention span was gone

[teal jackal]

I'm pulling shit outta my ass but what I meant is that kids with higher emotional intelligence are motivated to be doing brainiac shit earlier in life while 99% of kids are dicking around and relaxing

Since these high emotional intelligence kids will be more self driven and intrinsically interested in brainiac shit

My parents tried to tiger parent me when I was a kid and gave up when they realized I'm autistic beyond repair

[marsh sand]

Have my BB phone in 24 mins; what are the chances my interviewer doesn't show up

[teal jackal]

non zero

[marsh sand]

praying I get ghosted

[teal jackal]

not sure if bloomberg uk is diff tbh

[marsh sand]

naw my friends had theirs postponed

like minutes before the interview apparently

hoping the SAME happens to me

cuz I didn't solve enough BB tagged

[teal jackal]

youll probably be fine

[marsh sand]

i solved like 15 lmao

😦

taking too many courses this term

bad mistake on my part thought meta would give me return

[livid yew]

I mean you can type/interact online

So you can't be that autistic

[teal jackal]

im glad im not nonverbal for sure

[teal jackal]

15 isnt that bad

youll be fine hopefully

theres a chance youll get a curveball but tbh i think you can do alright

[livid yew]

Is that what it's called

I was trying to figure out, my cousin this weekend

She can't really do anything right

I think most of my structure came from working at a young age (14) and Boy Scouts

[livid yew]

When I think super autistic, I think uhh Timmy from South Park

[teal jackal]

why does twilio have such verbose password requirements

i have to sign up for twilio for a class

password needs to be 16 characters with no repeating elements in 3 or more chars

[marsh sand]

I’m out if I don’t get 2/2 in bloomberg phone right

I had to get help to finish Q1 but solved Q2 in like 5 mins

[teal jackal]

A bit of help isn't game over

Anyways

It's RNG from now buddy

[marsh sand]

Yup it is

It wasnt bit of help

[livid yew]

I mean they expect you to need some help tbh

[marsh sand]

It was like i got 90% done but had to get latter 10% explained to me

So that I could code it out LMAO

[teal jackal]

That's not game over tbh

Necessarily at least

[marsh sand]

Yee.. but was stuck on that for 20 mins HAHAHAHA oh well

Rng from here on out

[teal jackal]

For real

This is a tough year

[livid yew]

The important part is your ability to "Understand the help" and "incorporate their hints"

[marsh sand]

Yup 😦 couldnt understand it like for 10 mins LMAO

It was a good experience

First interview in this cycle

[livid yew]

Cause on the job, you need to be able to take constructive feedback and learn from it

Otherwise we would only need 4 big brain chads for everything

[strange ore]

If anyone has a renege template or good resource for drafting a renege email please dm

[west egret]

I didn’t even get to typing any code for q2 in phone and I moved on to VO.

[dense blaze]

That’s so

But hey, you do you

[marsh sand]

Tf was your first one like perfect though

[west egret]

I think I had hints at edge cases I was missing for q1.

[marsh sand]

Hmm ok but you coded it without help right

[west egret]

I mean define help?

I’d consider hinting at edge cases to be help

[marsh sand]

Oh as in “hmm something looks wrong (me stares at code for 10 mins)” “this is what’s wrongl

How long did it take you to hear back after phone screen?

[west egret]

It was indirect hints

A week or two?

This was way earlier before the BB bandwagon

[marsh sand]

Ahh makes sense

Just gonna move on now 😦

[uncut umbra]

palantir hm is done

now the waiting begins

perish me

[young peak]

There's a good one pinned on 2022_grad iirc

I used it to renege BB. They got pissed off though so ymmv lmfao

They've chilled out actually

Might just be that the stalkers got layed off

[strange ore]

unfortunately no :(

as long as they don't try to fuck me over with the non-compete agreement idc if this company gets mad

[young peak]

I'll copy paste it here once I get home from work bro

[echo stratus]

yo can more ppl renege BB so theres enough headcount there for me?

[strange ore]

@ me pls when u do and ty

[quartz vale]

Do you guys know anyone working in palantir toronto office?

[young peak]

Yeah wassup

[quartz vale]

I got an karat inv for US new grad role but realistically I can only work in Canada for new grad, not in US

Do you know if they would be willing to let me work in Canada as new grad?

[stoic belfry]

pissed off how

[young peak]

Set up a call 5mins after to ask me why I was reneging. I was evasive, so they basically told me this long sob story of how they really advocated and pushed for me. How the TC I'm getting was sooo difficult etc

After that call, they've been stalking me on LinkedIn on a weekly basis

[teal jackal]

Looks like they're eyeing you hard

can't update linkedin anymore

[young peak]

Entire teams of PMs, HMs, recruiters etc have viewed my LN

[teal jackal]

harassed

[quartz vale]

That's so cringe lol

[strange ore]

they want u bro

[young peak]

they down BAD fr

[teal jackal]

tell bloomberg that if theyre mad over yogi reneging that they have a perfectly qualified and talented candidate in me and should reach out to me to make up for the lost effort

[young peak]

One of em DMed a while back to ask if I was still considering positions with em

[stoic belfry]

looool

[young peak]

But yeah it's gotten better

Last year's folk had a laugh about it

[dense cloud]

meanwhile now were all simping for bloomberg💀

[young peak]

Just hope y'all realize this year isnt the norm

Once you all get through it, it's stupid easy how getting another one is

[strange ore]

when it rains it pours

are you 2023 grad?

[young peak]

2022 grad

I DM-ed an hm from Apple for a position, he said it was full but gave me a referral for another position I wanted. Next week I had phone round, 3-4 days later I got the onsite

And this is apple, that's notorious for fucking resume rejecting me for YEARS lmao

Like fric said, it'll pour for y'all soon and it won't be water -- it'll be champagne

I scheduled it for next Monday

[dense cloud]

planning to hop so quick?

[young peak]

Crazy offers for L4-5s rn homie

[tawdry skiff]

Interview for dn

[young peak]

Uber and Apple hiring like crazy rn

[tawdry skiff]

Yes Uber is hiring

Offer is not crazy tho

[young peak]

Naw I'm just seeing what's out there. During a recession, I think Apple and Google are the most secure out of the faangs

[tawdry skiff]

My cousin

[teal jackal]

Tbh I feel like class of 2023 will be happy in the long run if we can overcome this massive hurdle of a hiring season

We've learned to accept bad cicrcumstances

[young peak]

My Uber recruiter from last year doesn't work there anymore I think

[quartz vale]

I'm wondering if apple hm prefer new grads that could start sooner than later

[young peak]

And Apple guy prob should be confidential until I get an offer or rejection lmao but feel free to dm about anybody else

I got a whole string of em on #layoffs_support

[bronze estuary]

Anyone hear back from Bloomberg last week or today?

Not sure if they’re still giving out offers

[young peak]

Backfill prob wasn't enough so they're opening up some L3 positions lowkey

[quartz vale]

I have a recruiter call with bb in two days

[bronze estuary]

When did they reach out?

[bronze estuary]

And when was your EM?

[quartz vale]

They didn't reach out, my friend connected me with her

(the recuriter)

like last week

[bronze estuary]

Oh so u didn’t interview yet?

[quartz vale]

yeah no not yet

just calling the recruiter in two days

[vale cargo]

I had new grad final on oct 10 and they have been frozen since. Still no reject or offer

[bronze estuary]

Ok

[young peak]

Ah shit I prob disabled it

Lemme send you a req

If you can just wait until the evening I'm on my phone rn

Also gotta understand guys, whenever I open my DMs there's a lot of good but there's an even more amount of bad. I get around 80-100 separate people DMing me at peak times. When I posted on layed off supports, I counted around 150 people and I got back to most of em but some were just "what questions did you get at X company" which I just ignore tbh

So please understand that I might not be able to get back to everyone

I'm sure @livid yew understands

[sonic coral]

Holy shit 80-100 at peak times gahdamn

Mans a cscq customer support line

[static moth]

lemme dm u my uber recruiter

[split plaza]

How do you find these HMs, do you just look up “Apple hiring manager” on LinkedIn

[uncut umbra]

does palantir call to reject

just got an email for a call

[lone rapids]

Last i heard people got offer

[uncut umbra]

what

oh fuck

[cold kernel]

from what i understand it can go either way

[uncut umbra]

the recruiter said feedback looks positive?

but yeah the quick turnaround is weird

idk if it's a bait and switch lmao

I don't trust companies anymore bro

[cold kernel]

take the call brother

[uncut umbra]

not after the rescinds and companies taking interviews when they've filled hc

[cold kernel]

we all

[lone rapids]

You got the offer ig. Search blind

[uncut umbra]

no harm in being careful tbh

[young peak]

That works but I just see "hiring for X roles rn" on my feed randomly

And I just send a req, ask for the position and send my resume

Sometimes I just ask to chat over coffee

Met one of em IRL, dude was jacked out of his mind

[lone rapids]

When is the call

[uncut umbra]

wed

[lone rapids]

Seems positive to me

[teal jackal]

Good luck dude

[uncut umbra]

I didn't read the full email

the email includes like

government clearance discussions and shit

lmfao

[teal jackal]

I feel like it's so weird that there's so many barriers set up by society to be a productive member of society

Oh

[uncut umbra]

ok I think that's an offer but no hopes up

[cold kernel]

bruh i think you good

[teal jackal]

Good luck bro

[late kestrel]

this guy smh

[cold kernel]

lmfaooo

[uncut umbra]

bruhhhh the abuse

must end

[late kestrel]

im gonna be unemployed boo hoo hoo

[fossil jewel]

this guy smh

gg though

the hachiyuki blessing

[teal jackal]

wait holy shit one guy gave up on the 2023 new grad search for internships

and did so much better

is it still too late to do that?

[fossil jewel]

i think its a few people

they had decent luck

so just give it a shot tbh

interns are way cheaper labor than ng

[teal jackal]

yeah, this is straight up just a terrible time to be entry level as a software engineer

[fossil jewel]

gonna be cracked in the future no worries

[outer radish]

this too shall pass

[fossil jewel]

can i get spicy nuggets

wendys pls

[teal jackal]

😋

[outer radish]

cant give u spicy nuggets but I can give u 20k tc

[teal jackal]

Wendy's is epic

I love fast food

[outer radish]

^^^

[fossil jewel]

base or bonus

[flint knot]

anyone has bloomberg new grad discord ?

[zinc canyon]

Did you just receive an offer

[flint knot]

nah i’ve had one for a while

[wind drum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/z7130e/psa_to_new_grads_the_general_tech_scene_is_not_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

y’all see this shit lmao

[young peak]

I'd appreciate it more if they'd actually name the so called "desperate mid tier companies" they're talking about

[teal jackal]

^

Where are the midtier companies

I would love to apply

[thorn walrus]

the gaslighting

[late kestrel]

people 10 years into their career saying the market is as good as ever

[wind drum]

actually pisses me off how ignorant they are

[uncut umbra]

one of the cs advisors at my school said the same lmao

[sacred folio]

come to Apple and bless us with yogiwisdom

[rain patio]

[teal jackal]

Tbh the key indicators for recession are still lagging

I think most people will be feeling it soon

[nocturne oriole]

That entire sub is built around an inferiority complex

[marsh sand]

Peeps who got rejected from bb phone, how long did it take u to hear back

[timber rock]

the next day

[marsh sand]

Oh ok

[marsh sand]

Did u solve all 2 Qs

[timber rock]

mine was only 1 q and some behavioural and no i didnt solve it

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-stairs-pain-dive-gif-17105241

[teal jackal]

What's wrong with cscq?

No lie I wish the commenters could be right that the job market is good

But they're dead wrong

[uncut umbra]

what's palantir's tc

[west egret]

NYC meet up?

[uncut umbra]

holy shit

is this first year only?

[uncut umbra]

ofc I'm down

do they give relo no matter what?

[west egret]

What's wlb like at Palantir btw?

[late kestrel]

dudes got the receipts saved

[west egret]

I didn't even put in a palantir application lol

I think I was too lazy to fill in the responses

[uncut umbra]

it was my own fucking question too

[late kestrel]

ong

[late kestrel]

thats what im SAYIN

[leaden oak]

has anybody known anyone to get a remote European job as a US new grad? Is it a realistic goal? (I realize it's a steep pay cut. I'm okay with that)

[marsh sand]

Come to UK remote

But are there NG remote roles to begin with?

[leaden oak]

from what I understand the UK would be from the frying pan into the fire

looking for that WLB

[leaden oak]

that's a good point - guess that would imply it's not viable

maybe through an internship or something? I know US companies definitely entertain foreign interns

[timber rock]

working remote for european company from US or remote from europe?

[leaden oak]

from the US but I'd love the freedom to travel

[timber rock]

Yeah but I meant like

It will be hard to get a remote job for an eu company if you live in us

If you're open to relocating and working remote from the company's country it will be easier but hard for ng

[leaden oak]

can what I'm looking for be had in the US? I'm a midlife turnaround and to be honest, I'm absolutely terrified of stumbling into another nightmare job

[stark topaz]

Guys, any stories who went doing software business after graduation? any data if it is common?

[timber rock]

Don't think european companies will give you european style benefits if you're in the us

They are only so good in eu cause its illegal not to lol

[stark topaz]

yes, I am from 3rd world country and possibilities are huge

[timber rock]

I agree with the guy above tho, UK is probably your best bet

[rain patio]

@nocturne oriole can we convert all the emotes to santa like this

In the spirit of Christmas

[stark topaz]

that is my end goal of CS degree, and I am not sure if I should join some company or work on skills related to PM and tech skills

seems like doing something on my own increases speed of learning

[blazing quail]

Anyone have thoughts on m&t bank tdp? Is it a low tier option since it’s a 2 year program before an actual swe role and relatively bad TC? Is the program itself good or bad?

[young peak]

Yeah Airbnb has something like that

Perma remote with 90 days in any country

No cooldown so you can go to one country for 90 days and immediately to another for 90 days

Given you got the visa to go there

[leaden oak]

cool. I'll shoot them an application

[young peak]

Gl my dude, live my dream

[leaden oak]

i'm not likely to get something like that until I've proven myself more. I was kind of looking for more generic input on how to point my career in a direction that leads to good WLB

[lyric cosmos]

Hey guys, when a recruiter asks if u have some deadlines with some other companies in the interview process, should u tell the name of a company?

Or it doesn’t really make any difference

[nocturne oriole]

Too much work, put a bounty on it

If u gift free nitro 1mo to somebody

They will

Tbh just get christmas kirby emotes

[grizzled bronze]

@nocturne oriole What about adding sad cat emoji?

[nocturne oriole]

[fossil jewel]

[tawdry skiff]

[chilly burrow]

Ehhh it would depend tbh

Sometimes saying the name has helped

Sometimes it has hurt

[timber rock]

Expedia also has a thing where you can work from any office worldwide for 2 weeks a year, if travelling is what you're looking for

[chilly burrow]

I was interviewing with a really shitty Healthcare company called Forward

And they were pissed when I said the names of the other companies

Cause they weren't Healthcare

[timber rock]

Not sure about wlb at expedia in US but in the uk it's pretty damn good. Not fully remote tho

[chilly burrow]

But when I was interviewing with a startup

[lilac siren]

Should I call recruiters if they ghosted for two weeks? A recruiter reached out a week before to schedule the first round but then ghosted

[chilly burrow]

I said I had an offer from another hot startup

[leaden oak]

noted thank you. I'll add them to my list

[chilly burrow]

And they sped up lol

[fossil jewel]

forward seems toxic from what folks said here

backward

[wind drum]

lol my friend loved interning expedia this summer bc she actually hates doing work and it's super chill

so i think it's very good in US as well

[timber rock]

yeah, the main complaint i've heard about expedia is that there's nothing happening ever

lol

[leaden oak]

I don't hate doing work. I like learning and work hard. I just don't want to be taken advantage of outright.

[lament summit]

I got an offer from them and I agree with this statement

They told me they choose to not pay their engineers more bc they want them to be here for the work not the pay

[lyric cosmos]

Lmaoo

[uncut umbra]

forward is so dogshit

[lament summit]

But free healthcare tho

[ornate cliff]

USA moment

[lyric cosmos]

True

[grizzled bronze]

Depends, if it's Forward definitely list all the companies you're in the process with

[chilly burrow]

I got to the em stage

Worst behavioral ever

I felt like I was being interrogated

Also the few ppl I know who got to final/offer all got much better offers

Shout out to @azure zephyr and @queen valve

[heady sluice]

my recruiter hasnt responded since last tuesday 😕

[azure zephyr]

hmu for all ur jira & confluence needs

[fossil jewel]

delete jira

keep confluence

[jaunty basalt]

Can you even work on JIRA? Like when you get an offer u get a doc or flip book with the orgs you can join, none of mine had JIRA on it

It was mostly trello

[fossil jewel]

trello is nice

[azure zephyr]

nah jira is Australia only i think it was just a joke

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah that’s what I was told too

I don’t get that part though, only Australia is so strange

[late kestrel]

jira is coded upside down thats why people dont like it

duh

[keen grove]

this is so fucking funny

[fossil jewel]

react galore

[lament summit]

Yea same here

[whole roost]

Forward overdosing on copium

[lament summit]

Cuz it is a p tough recruitment process ngl

[nocturne oriole]

Ur cringe

Im sorry

My lil bro took my phone

[fossil jewel]

[lyric cosmos]

What are some alternatives for JIRA that companies use?

[lament summit]

Asana, Monday

[lyric cosmos]

What is trello tho?

[fossil jewel]

like a kanban board

[jaunty basalt]

Lemme google that for you

[lyric cosmos]

🫡🫡

I actually didn’t know that Forward is a pretty bad company

At least they have a good website lol

[chilly burrow]

Just use sticky notes

[marsh sand]

tf citadel is so easy

though i guess I'll get resume reject after this OA

[wind drum]

nah why palantir reaching out on handshake after rejecting me post final

some quality trolling

[late kestrel]

lmaoooo

i got that after a resume reject

which makes even less sense

🥴

[high arrow]

anyone have experience with Palantir's onsite and have any tips/resources for the decomp part (I am not very familiar with system design questions)?

[marsh sand]

Any new New Grad positions for London?

[rain patio]

Bro im hungry af. Starving

[azure zephyr]

oh my god i just got an interview with google??!?!?!?!?

i thought they weren't hiring wtf 😭😭😭

[fair zinc]

for sde new grad?

hope they don't lay off people

[nocturne oriole]

bro who asked???

[wind drum]

they are hiring they're just really picky

[nocturne oriole]

stay hungry bro

get job

buy your own food

i'm not ur mum

[rain patio]

[nocturne oriole]

average jobless grad:

[rain patio]

I be homeless

If i dnt find a gig asap

[nocturne oriole]

most sane csc user:

[rain patio]

[nocturne oriole]

i'm sorry

[rain patio]

[azure zephyr]

i guess so??? omfg

actually freaking out rn

[wind drum]

did you get oa or did they go straight to phone

[nocturne oriole]

stupid reddit post got removed apparently
https://www.reveddit.com/v/cscareerquestions/comments/z7130e/psa_to_new_grads_the_general_tech_scene_is_not_in/

[torpid birch]

Not gonna be active on Discord tonight. I'm going to work at my job (a real one) in half an hour (wouldn't expect a lot of you to understand anyway) so please don't DM me asking me where I am (im at my workplace, ok) you'll most likely get aired because ill be with my cowoerkers (again I don't expect you to understand) theyre actually really interested in me and its not a situation i can pass up for some meaningless Discord degenerates (because ill be working at my job, not that you really are going to understand) this is my life now. Making money and not wasting my precious time online, I have to move on from such simple things and branch out (you wouldnt understand)

[azure zephyr]

not sure yet i basically just got an email from the recruiter saying he wants to hop on a call to follow up my application and discuss roles that might be a fit for

okay so if i pass the interviews i can potentially get matched starting beginning of next year? its the very beginning of the process so i kinda figured it'd take a few months anyways

[sage sluice]

i was told to wait till january but i havent interviewed

got frozen before then lol

you think its worth it to follow up with my recruiter

damn

i have an offer start date super soon

unlucky

[fossil jewel]

your name should be hachiyuki too. Big W though

[split plaza]

recruiter reach out? Or did you apply earlier

[azure zephyr]

well the fact that he even emailed me must mean they're planning on hiring new grads anyways

[azure zephyr]

i applied earlier

like months ago prob

[split plaza]

damn wtf

[split plaza]

was it for the new grad SWE position?

[azure zephyr]

yes

damn i haven't really leetcoded in like a month lmao

looks like it's time to grind over winter break

bro its google ofc im gonna interview

[lament summit]

Go bb over G

G is just gonna edge u

[azure zephyr]

yeah

but also once again i've barely leetcoded in the past month so im not really expecting much tbh

and overall i've only solved like around 100 questions so

[torn stone]

Mate I fully suspect my C3 AI process

[timber rock]

where is ur current offer

atlassian?

[azure zephyr]

yup

[timber rock]

nice

agreed

[azure zephyr]

yea youre right

[somber oyster]

somebody checking opttimeline site?

[sonic coral]

It’s kinda hard to cram for G

They ask pretty much every pattern / ds / algo

[crude saffron]

A month is cramming 😮

V high standards

[sonic coral]

Lol yeah I gave up on studying G after a week

Still got it tho

[livid yew]

I love edging

[marsh sand]

GOOGLE'S OPEN?

[young peak]

A good chunk of it's luck, even within the same company. Another big chunk is self-imposed WLB. How effectively can you complete tasks? Are you procrastinating during work hours and jamming PRs on a Sunday? Stuff like that adds up. Otherwise, most tech companies are relatively similar in wlb. Google is a bit better overall but still there are many teams that have hustle culture

[marsh sand]

@sage sluice how's life going 😦

I miss Meta

[azure zephyr]

what if the "cramming" is basically a refresh? i've gone over basically every pattern it's just I haven't practiced in about a month

[thick shell]

Petition to ban Pymetric assessments this shit is actually so dumb

Like has anyone made it past this stage when companies send them? I wasted like an hour each doing three of these and nothing. I'm looking at you MasterCard

[whole roost]

I did MasterCard Pymetrics while jacked up on caffeine

Was blowing up those balloons like a maniac

Did not pass

[thick shell]

Space bar absolutely obliterated by these games

I might just say f it and cold email them maybe that will get me out of the ghosted stage

[whole roost]

Did you apply recently? Being late in the pipeline probs has a negative impact as well

Assuming the Pymetrics OA is auto send

[teal jackal]

mfw group projects are pissing me the fuck off
some retard breaks the code i was working on and gets mad that i need time to figure out why it broke

group projects for CS classes are my 13th reason why

[uncut umbra]

interviewer: name your other 12 reasons

[timber rock]

Mastercard got back to me after

👀

[sage sluice]

im alright man. got an offer that im happy with. still casually applying/interviewing with a few companies in case i get something i like more

[sage sluice]

same but oh well we gon get this bag regardless

[amber wind]

anyone heard back from Flexport recently?

[somber oyster]

Never...

[austere grove]

As someone who has been quietly stalking the discord channel, I noticed that the entire discord server is a bunch of people belittling other people's career decisions. For example, I saw someone asking on that discord, about working at some Fintech company. I shit you not, a bunch of people started to make fun of this person for even thinking about working there. Calling the person "dull" since it’s not a FAANG. There have been so many similar instances. I also it quite bugs me that so many people care more about the compensation. They don't care about what the company does, what the job is, the culture or even where the job site even is. Plus, there is a lot of cheating and leaks on OAs even though the company asks you to keep them private. You may pass the initial OA because of answers you collected from server, but when you meet face to face with an engineer; they will quickly realize what happened. Probably will get your self immediately rejected.

[whole roost]

Is this a copypasta

[timber rock]

💀

[pale kettle]

it is now

[thick shell]

Niceee

Guess it's just bad RNG on my end then

[teal jackal]

As someone dealing with a group of retards on my group project, I am losing my fucking mind.

[dawn osprey]

Did anyone else receive "your app is still under consideration" from Amazon this week?

I got it today but thought they completely closed...is this an automated glitch or something?

[timber rock]

it is probably automated

but they are technically still "under consideration" despite the freeze cause they are not just rejecting everyone

[dawn osprey]

I know it's automated (based on prev seasons) but I thought they stopped everything as a whole 🥲

so was kinda confused haha

[whole roost]

The salt lol. I've yet to see someone being belittled here

Everyone's generally supportive

[fossil jewel]

@queen valve i saw the post in RTC

[torpid birch]

I remember someone got bullied for not wanting others to guess what company they were being considered for

[late kestrel]

As someone who has been quietly stalking @uncut umbra , I noticed that his entire personality is belittling other people's career decisions. For example, I saw someone asking him about working at some Fintech company. I shit you not, he started to make fun of this person for even thinking about working there. Calling the person "dull" since it’s not a FAANG. There have been so many similar instances. I also it quite bugs me that he cares more about the compensation. He don't care about what the company does, what the job is, the culture or even where the job site even is. Plus, there is a lot of cheating and leaks on OAs even though the company asks you to keep them private. You may pass the initial OA because of answers you collected from server, but when you meet face to face with an engineer; they will quickly realize what happened. Probably will get your self immediately rejected.

[timber rock]

we should bring back xceed

[uncut umbra]

this is fucking abuse

I am being maligned

[late kestrel]

dunno sounds like ur the abuser

[uncut umbra]

unfairly

where is this a copypasta from

[young peak]

Knew it

Always was sussy when he started speaking to me only after hearing my TC

[late kestrel]

[uncut umbra]

still too low buddy

7 figure tc mfers only

[livid yew]

I mean the copypasta has SOME merit

yall need to stop clowning on people cause they don't work for FAANG. end-of-day we all have a cock, the size really does not matter

[timber rock]

but how else are we going to feel superior to others?

[livid yew]

Why do you feel the need to be superior?

This is something I never understood

[surreal estuary]

im pretty sure that guy is trolling

lmao

[timber rock]

its sarcasm

[livid yew]

I mean

but is kinda true

in r/cs

[timber rock]

i failed every faang i ever applied to i am not the right person for this

[livid yew]

those people are a bunch of bufoons

I have always been happy being below average/average, would be less happy if I was chad

well good look anyways

[proper dawn]

cuz a lot of people have 0 life outside of work and like to tell themselves "hey but im making more" or "hey im smarter"

[timber rock]

all the subreddits are just cesspools of spoiled kids

[livid yew]

lmao did not see

[timber rock]

giving advice on a career they ar enot even in

[proper dawn]

this is like blind in a nutshell

[livid yew]

I used to tell those guys at college "Hey that is great, but I don't give a fuck, and dont care"

[sage sluice]

cmu?

[livid yew]

I told one of my closest friends, since 1st grade, who went to college with me, to fuck off several times

[timber rock]

they are the same kids who come into class every day saying "oohhh i only slept like 2 hours last night

[livid yew]

dude has massive insecruity or something

[fossil jewel]

YOU SLEPT FOR 2 HOURS

[livid yew]

these kids don't deserve to....

[fossil jewel]

I ONLY SLEPT FOR 2 SECONDS

[timber rock]

i havent slept since 2013

[fossil jewel]

[livid yew]

I have not slept since 1998

[fossil jewel]

shit same

[proper dawn]

i have the opposite frustation with my school

i went to a state school and while we have a decent cs department

most ppl i meet are just coasting

[fossil jewel]

yeah my school is the opposite, state school and everyone is just coasting

[proper dawn]

and I feel like if i had a better peer group

i would have done better

[fossil jewel]

i think some folks know about LC right before grad

[proper dawn]

I did find ppl who work hard and I it helped me but I wish there were more ppl like that

have that anyway

[timber rock]

dont think i knew what lc was until i googled "how to study for amazon final"

[proper dawn]

i dont mean like

[fossil jewel]

i’m lucky that’s my senior design project group tbh

[proper dawn]

ppl who grind LC 24/7

more just intersting ppl who are passionate about what they do

[fossil jewel]

they at least have decent googling skills and can communicate bugs

[livid yew]

I have the advantage of already being done with college

[fossil jewel]

3 weeks

i literally have a motion timer

notion*

[livid yew]

is notion even good

[fossil jewel]

i think in the spite of the crazy competitive folks, the program at least is well renowned that you get really good connections

[livid yew]

I have wanted to switch from OneNote

[proper dawn]

like not even just cs, just smart passionate ppl in general

[fossil jewel]

i wish notion had handwriting

[proper dawn]

out the few mildly selective depts in my school

[fossil jewel]

but otherwise it’s quite solid

[timber rock]

my uni is home for all the oxford and cambridge rejects

[proper dawn]

the rest just feels like shit

[fossil jewel]

yeah my cs/ee programs are a big toss up

[proper dawn]

i have friends in CMU

but im not really in touch with them anymore

[fossil jewel]

some profs are great others want you to fail

[livid yew]

I think my most difficult thing was my Eagle Scout process, even more than college

I get to be part of that exclusive club

[fossil jewel]

the clubs are what helped me out, school’s ACM club had an swe from 2s solve technical questions every weekend

[livid yew]

I was very busy with student government lmao

clubs are a good thing tbh

I was in church until was like 10

lmao

worry

[azure zephyr]

the level that ppl hold compensation to in this server is pretty insane. there's several ppl in here who feel like they are a failure if they don't land a FANG job. it's wild

however we can't just say money doesn't matter. obviously if somebody came in here and said should i take this offer for 30k a year then that's a good time to say hey man maybe you should keep looking

but knocking a 70-90k job straight out of college? insanity

[wind drum]

fr like i felt bad at thanksgiving

[livid yew]

I started with a 70k job back in 2020

can confirm was insane to me

[teal jackal]

Tbh I feel like what sucks is that
I feel like career building is equal parts luck and skill

a lot of things are wholly out of your control

[uneven grove]

Hmm really? Did my 3rd technical with them today and my interview said they were doing 5 interviews a week lol

[teal jackal]

but tbh I realize there's talented people everywhere

frankly I'm not experienced enough to act snooty anyways

I'm kinda a dumbass and always will be a tad retarded for my age

[livid yew]

yeah stop being unemployed

[timber rock]

there's nothing you can do about the luck part so just focus on the skill. u will be happier in life the quicker u do that

God damn it typing faster than me

[marsh sand]

ig getting twosum in interviews

[teal jackal]

I realized that there's pretty much no reason for me to be snooty about what kinda job I go to
I'm dumb and lazy lmao, the fact that I've made it this far is a miracle

[livid yew]

I accepted I am below average human when I was like 10 been living great since

[marsh sand]

THIS

[teal jackal]

Getting into amazon was a fluke for me

[crude saffron]

Life is a random walk

[timber rock]

I got twosum in a final and still got rejected

[marsh sand]

Wot

[teal jackal]

Like the day I got into amazon I thought i was some CS career wizard

[timber rock]

plus 3 medoums I guess not just twosum

[teal jackal]

Tbh I've realized now that a SHIT ton of people get into amazon

[livid yew]

what about 1sum

[tawdry skiff]

how do I improve luck?

[teal jackal]

and that im not special just because I got lucky with their process

[timber rock]

return target in nums

[teal jackal]

thats just binary search assuming the list is sorted

[timber rock]

sorry my solution is not optimal

[livid yew]

new question, prove that "1+1 = Window"

made a uhhh whim purchase on black friday

hopefully it was not waste of money

[teal jackal]

what did u buy?

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

I feel a lot better now knowing tbh that I never worked hard enough to truly deserve faang tier pay as a new grad

[marsh sand]

Think imma make a youtube channel w leetcode solutions

So that I’m committed to practice

[teal jackal]

Just because i got into amazon doesnt mean i pass the hiring bar at other places

[livid yew]

Well with $100 off and the trade-in value, this seemed like a no-brainer

[timber rock]

Applying to mi5 and mi6 and they make you tick a box that says I will not discuss my application with non british citizens

[wicked rivet]

same

[livid yew]

But I am US Citizen and you just discussed the fact you applied

[azure zephyr]

bro its 2022 and you're still using that word? be better

[livid yew]

[tawdry skiff]

zon is faang tier pay

[livid yew]

ok sure dude

[timber rock]

please do not tell mommy

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

i fumbled that bag

[tawdry skiff]

just need to return and get sde2 promo

ah rip

[livid yew]

the camera bar is aggressive on Pixel

thicc

[teal jackal]

believe me if i got the return offer i would have given up on outside search

and just took amazon

[livid yew]

I almost have complete Pixel collection Just missing 2

[teal jackal]

not a single place that pays better than amazon would consider hiring me in this economy

Lol

[tawdry skiff]

reminds me of the nexus 6p?

[azure zephyr]

what are you talking about that word is highly offensive to so many people. it doesn't take a lot of effort to remove a slur from your vocab

[livid yew]

I was offended at some point, then decided I don't care enough to be offended

Like it takes more effort to be offended

but I see what you mean

this is the Internet, tough to change people tbh

[robust kettle]

quite easy to stop saying a word if you make any effort at all tbf

like sure you will slip up sometimes, but it's not too difficult to notice

[livid yew]

I should be offended tbh, considering 2 of my direct family members have ASD

[teal jackal]

I literally straight up have ASD

[livid yew]

that means you are the "correct" one, us normies are the weird ones

at least from my viewpoint

[teal jackal]

yeah I just forgot that that word has a very offensive connotation

I just forget 99% of the time

I'm not personally bothered by it but if most people are bothered I'll stop using the word

[livid yew]

I think in like middle school they did some thing to remove the R word from our language

bro give me your pfp @teal jackal

[dense blaze]

stfu

[azure zephyr]

the r word it's necessarily a word for ASD but moreso other intellectual disabilities if i remember correctly but i could be wrong on that

[teal jackal]

I think it's just associated with invisible disabilities

I like the term invisible disabilities

since it's mental rather than physical

[livid yew]

Does ADHD/ADD fall into the category?

I assume not

[teal jackal]

but doesn't carry any stigma around it

ADHD does count but Idk if it's a nationally recognized disorder

[azure zephyr]

ok have fun saying slurs homie

[dense blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-23999135

[teal jackal]

https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/d25b7340298cb4982ccfe297b64e6190.jpg

[livid yew]

I think I was diganoised with ADHD, impulsive/hyperactive and some other stuff when I was a kid

my parents never told me the full details

[azure zephyr]

ahhh okay that makes sense. what about ppl with down syndrome?

[dense blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

[livid yew]

and I have not bothered to request my medical files yet

[teal jackal]

Idk what that is classified as

not sure

[crude saffron]

Burner time

[livid yew]

bruh wdym

ADHD is a thing

huh

[teal jackal]

wait

mb

[livid yew]

I mean I can't check the box on applications with ADHD

[teal jackal]

I was talking about the "do you have a disability" checkbox in employment forms

[livid yew]

yeah

[teal jackal]

Like adhd i dont think appears

[livid yew]

its sometimes unclear

tbh

[dense blaze]

tracksmith

[livid yew]

I probably have some other learning/intellectual disability

I just don't know

[teal jackal]

anyways, regarding the r word I don't really mind the word, but I get why other people do mind, so continuing to use that word isn't the hill I really want to die on

[livid yew]

or care enough to get re-diagnosed.

[azure zephyr]

i feel like there's a lot of disability awareness happening rn which is good so maybe adhd will get reevaluated soon

[livid yew]

I have ADHD for sure, I was evalulated at age 3, age 7, age, 12, age 18 lmao

they all agreed

so

🤷

[azure zephyr]

oh no i meant for the ADA thing

[livid yew]

oh

I don't care enough tbh

too much effort for me

[azure zephyr]

yeah sorry if that came across wrong

[livid yew]

I got extended time in school, and some other accoms

that was about it

[crude saffron]

How did u find me

[teal jackal]

Tbh even if I was offered ADA shit I probably wouldn't know what to ask for

I think I had the option to get extra time on exams back in school, but I guess I got by fine without it so I'm kinda used to just adapting to the circumstances without any special treatment

[livid yew]

Bro I have been putting off wisdom teeth removal for like 3 years, I am not going to up and see a psych tomorrow lmao

[crystal delta]

for adhd it's late submission hw, private room for tests, extended time on tests, couple other things i think

[livid yew]

I still did terrible on exams

[teal jackal]

my grades were alright

[livid yew]

I think I maybe got 2 As in all of college

[teal jackal]

tbh I'm not sure if I had a kid and they ended up with the same disorder I have, I would have them be raised with a lot of accomodations

I never had any accomodations

not at home or at school

[livid yew]

I mean if it helps them

I dont see a downside

[teal jackal]

I probably would raise them to just get used to the fact that life can be harsh and to learn lessons from it that way

[livid yew]

I guess recently I have sorta grown out of my ADHD

stopped taking meds regularly like 2 years ago

tbh my Boy Scouts + Part-Time job in HS probably taught me the "life sucks" lesson

lmaoooo I had many many meds

one time they tried a thing they put up my ass

lmao

[teal jackal]

My parents told me that kids nowadays are "over-accomodated" and "spoiled" by institutions and that they're being raised to be unable to do anything on their own
I do not know if this is true or false

probably exaggerated

[livid yew]

one time they had me on 2 meds + a blood pressure med, cause the adhd meds fucked with my BP

crazy times

[livid yew]

no kids these days are too "online" and tech based

so they are not learning basic life skills

my cousin, she is like 8yrs old, ASD, was interesting to see over Thanksgiving.

like things I would never consider difficult or confusing

just did not click with her

[teal jackal]

yeah tbh that's true

[livid yew]

Oh I am in the "I sulfured, so you have to as well" mindset

[teal jackal]

If my parents helped me overcome my hardship instead of doing the tough love approach, I probably wouldn't have costed them $1000 on my way home from seattle

[sonic coral]

I have indeed sulfured

[livid yew]

spell check

[teal jackal]

on my last day in seattle I only then realized that I forgot to book a return flight back home

[livid yew]

where the fuck

cost that much

I can get from Seattle to NYC for like $400-500

[teal jackal]

nah 1000 is an exaggeration

[livid yew]

must be international or something

[teal jackal]

but I had to book a hotel for a night

[livid yew]

I have no clue how that works tbh

[teal jackal]

because i couldnt get a same day flight

[livid yew]

I got a passport last year, still have no clue how to use it

[crude saffron]

I was stuck in Seoul airport for 24 hours cause I missed my flight

And I wasn’t allowed to leave airport

[livid yew]

[timber rock]

ok no flame but how the fk did you forget to book a flight

[teal jackal]

incheon airport for transit right?

[livid yew]

I want to fly outside the US at some point

never been outside the US

[teal jackal]

I think incheon airport doesnt make u do border control if you don't leave the airport for transit

Incheon is a nice airport

[livid yew]

well I was in Canada when I was a infant, in like 1999

does not count

[torpid birch]

Incheon?

[teal jackal]

yeah

thats the main airport in korea

[livid yew]

Inch on DN

bro no, I cant be missing that much work

also I am not built for backpacking tbh

I would probably die of something stupid lmao

even though I am an Eagle Scout

[torpid birch]

What if u get impressed by the Korean government

And forced to serve in the military

[livid yew]

I need to tell you every time

[teal jackal]

Apparently China had(before covid) a 72 hour visa free rule for transit

you can leave the airport and explore china for up to 72 hours until your next flight leaves

[torpid birch]

Now china locks you in burning buildings instead

[livid yew]

BRUH 2015, seems so long ago

[torpid birch]

I still have my bible

[livid yew]

Now they just ask for money every year just like my college alumni

I have a bible somewhere

[torpid birch]

More money to pay for the victims ig

[livid yew]

Oh I should look into the class action or whatever

I mean I was not affected tbh

[teal jackal]

apparently the boy scouts was a christian organization

or some shit

I didn't even know

[torpid birch]

Girl scouts >>>> as I said

[livid yew]

TIL this was a thing

So it is just Scouts now

[torpid birch]

Nah they should just disband or join the girl scouts

[livid yew]

our troop happened to meet in the same church my family attended

so I was in church like 3-4 times a week

I remember cause they wrote a newspaper article about my project

was crazy tbh

[dense blaze]

the church of dn

yes

[teal jackal]

I think most eagle scouts got that tbh

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Chae

[dusky plover]

hi

i heard chae

im here

[marsh sand]

채원?

[dusky plover]

채원이는 내사랑 🫰🏻

[rain patio]

My ukt

Ult

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