I like cold email
#2023_grads
fallen fox
no internships are almost always for college students only; whereas new grad/lower level positions attract everyone from self taught to bootcamp grads
wheat seal
I like cold email
What do u use to find emails?
modest rampart
I like cold email
in mail message right?
chilly burrow
in mail message right?
No, email
modest rampart
No, email
in mail message also emails them right?
I think
Because I used to get emails when someone else in-mail messaged me
chilly burrow
in mail message also emails them right?
Ya but dats money
wheat seal
Ya but dats money
yea linkedin premium cost money
modest rampart
Ya but dats money
Oh I have linkedin prem
wheat seal
this seems better and more efficient
modest rampart
so, both email and in-mail should be the same for me
chilly burrow
Oh I have linkedin prem
I used 2 cuz my friend giftd it 2 me
wheat seal
well recruiters use linkedin a lot
chilly burrow
Now i don't 😔
chilly burrow
so, both email and in-mail should be the same for me
One advantage of email is dat u can track if da recruiter reads it
And if they send it to others
grizzled bronze
One advantage of email is dat u can track if da recruiter reads it
Personally I don't see email tracking as an advantage, it's a bit too obsessive and doesn't really help because even if your email is opened it means nothing and also some companies do block them. If you're worried a recruiter didn't see then you can always follow standard advice and follow up after a week. I've heard of some recruiters telling people here not to use trackers too.
lament basin
where can i get an auto OA
quartz vale
where can i get an auto OA
tiktok
lament basin
then why my application get closed 💀
twilit wasp
what's people's opinion on jpmc (base £55k) vs morgan stanley (base £70k)? 🤔
heavy matrix
Has anyone has the technical interview with Konrad for new grad software dev?
sonic coral
what's people's opinion on jpmc (base £55k) vs morgan stanley (base £70k)? 🤔
Honestly for 15k more it seems like a no brainer
Unless there’s some location col diff (not familiar with UK)
twilit wasp
the buildings are literally next to each other xD both london office
sonic coral
I really think they’re similar enough just pick the one that pays more lmao
twilit wasp
im just not sure how fast you can climb in jpmc vs ms, cant seem to find reliable info online
and how much the TC will be in 5 years for each of them
sonic coral
Most of the people I know in jpmc just hop
Jpmc -> faang is common
But I’m sure ms is similar
twilit wasp
i have an offer for jpmc rn and in final stage for ms, if i go to ms, i cant jump back into jpmc hahah
sonic coral
I mean hey you can try negoing jp with ms if you really want it
Unless the jp deadline expires soon
twilit wasp
i already signed it, it was a return internship offer back in sept
sonic coral
Oh I see
twilit wasp
yeah so really trying to see if it is worth the switch if i get into MS
sonic coral
Up to you but for 15k more I’d do it, the companies are similar enough
twilit wasp
yeah that's what im considering rn
and the relocation and sign on bonus is way higher as well
timber rock
Go for the bag 💰
quartz vale
Dam maybe it’s not auto…
compact sundial
teal jackal
first internship is hardest, new grad is very hard(at least this year, due to slashed HC and lack of return offers for many), subsequent internships are somewhat chill
but new grad assumes u have prior internship
urban gulch
Usually new grad is a lot easier
teal jackal
yeah this tbh
urban gulch
Just not this year
teal jackal
if you wanna get out of the interviewing rat race ASAP, do it right while its easier
stack internships and get return offers
interviewing is easier during intern search
interesting
thats an outlier tbh
my response rate is equivalent now to my response rate last year, and last year i was pickier about where i applied
lowest paying companies I applied to last year were spotify and autodesk
teal jackal
wait i think the thing with hai is that hai has no prior internship xp?
at tleast thats how it sounds
teal jackal
hmmm
i think having zero internships makes the search a lot harder
tbh youre a senior with decent class experience by this point
so it kinda makes sense
interesting tho
last year i had one internship, this year i have two on my resume
urban gulch
Definitely not the norm
teal jackal
yeah hai and vagorge sound like outliers atm
urban gulch
Even during good times it was hard to get new grad offers without prior exp
timber rock
Same lol
urban gulch
Also, at least in Canada, a lot of local companies are still giving out interviews
timber rock
Last year I got 1 interview and that was amazon
urban gulch
So ik ppl that are getting a ton of callbacks
teal jackal
doomed are u an international?
Tbh id keep the door to getting a masters open, and if u can get any respectable full time job with a decent tech stack
karmic harness
oh way better than a masters imo
teal jackal
mediocre but respectable?
teal jackal
Tbh for the most part i recommend starting work asap
over delaying entering the full time workforce
karmic harness
yeah if u can a jane street internship
teal jackal
hm
teal jackal
quant or unicorn internship is good prestige
if u cant get into those then just start working
you can hop to faang from any job
i hear
karmic harness
there are no more open roles left for the Full Stack Engineering position at this time for both the January and the June start dates. The talent in the market right now is very competitive, however I did want to make you aware that you interviewed very well and had very positive feedback.
That being said, I am able to put you on a waitlist for the June start date. If a candidate chooses to back out of their acceptance, I will make sure to let you know as soon as possible.
```wow fidelity pretty much doesnt care about reneging anymore
karmic harness
they accepted this year
because of market
my recruiter said
they never fill this fast
they werent expecting this
u heading to fidelity?
teal jackal
any job -> faang -> unicorn/quant
karmic harness
ah ur lucky
when i interviewed i think they were basically full
no bs
for all locations
last week of october
for me
timber rock
I heard grokking is good for sys design. Os I have no idea I've just guessed every time I get an os q lol
💰
warm sky
I think most would lmao
crude saffron
if your utility function is more heavily weighted towards EV, joining trading firms seems reasonable
timber rock
Eh disagree I think ur underestimating quant tc especially later in career
crude saffron
also ur allowed to retire earlier
karmic harness
also quant bonus
warm sky
Isn't it normal to retire at 35 in quant?
timber rock
I've seen 1mil+ a lot on blind. Obviously higher than most but i have never ever seen that high for faang
teal jackal
tbh quant work is meaningless
crude saffron
imc progression is dog
teal jackal
quant just makes one circlejerk of rich smart people richer
quant doesnt actually make anything interessting for others
timber rock
1 mil is way higher than you will ever get at faang without going super google fellow or whatever tf
karmic harness
quant doesnt actually make anything interessting for others
optimizing google ads
aint that great of work either
dont kid urself
teal jackal
tbh id be bored at google ads too
if i was hopping from google ads to quant i wouldnt feel sad
teal jackal
you guys are right
CRUD apps arent exactly more meaningful than quant
i changed my mind
karmic harness
I am here for money I will work for whoever gives me most money
i agree
theres nothing that crazy going on in the space
doomed
teal jackal
tbh quant has a high hiring bar, if you dont have worked yet its kinda early to start thinking about it
karmic harness
it maybe too late for you to think about new grad quant firms
if ur still interested in it you can strive for it while working
crude saffron
quant meaning qr?
crude saffron
not necessarily
karmic harness
ah well when i go look at the firms
crude saffron
v few places have strict phd requirements
karmic harness
thats mostly what i see
tawdry skiff
v few places have strict phd requirements
Rentech
teal jackal
my favorite work is creating algorithms on behalf of the woke mob to censor right wing dissent 
crude saffron
hrt, cit, radix, headlands, js, jump all have ug
karmic harness
hrt, cit, radix, headlands, js, jump all have ug
sure but you know what i mean.
neat shore
I have a first round at 3red. What do they ask
karmic harness
who is a qr in here?
crude saffron
if ur not phd ur not a real qr intern
crude saffron
it's also worth noting that certain roles are some combination of the 3
or some qr/qd roles are some combination of the two
like js qt is p much qr
headlands qr seems like 50/50 qr/qd lol
crude saffron
it's also some self-selection based on what u personally enjoy doing and are good at
foggy perch
Don't they all interview and test really different skills though
Or do you just mean title-wise
Really huh
karmic harness
nice video in ur description
crude saffron
dont say
it's ez to doxx since the industry is so small
least intelligent chaewon fan
karmic harness
how did u break in
crude saffron
isl and esl are decently helpful
karmic harness
english second language?
timber rock
so they don't care about my tesol certificate?
karmic harness
did u go to a top school chaewon?
crude saffron
im blacklisted from drw
i fell asleep during a phone w/ a desk head
sig change their interview questions challenge (impossible)
yea did u do the cow drw question?
timber rock
about to graduate from top school and never heard of 3 out of 4 of those 😂
crude saffron
stoch calc or measure theory seem more useful than real analysis
ah icic
the measure theoretic definition of conditional prob is quite unwieldy lol
livid yew
Happy holidays everyone 
karmic harness
techie what u buy me for blackfriday
smoky bone
Also, at least in Canada, a lot of local companies are still giving out intervie...
how do u find canadian companies, going through indeed but the results aren't very good
urban gulch
how do u find canadian companies, going through indeed but the results aren't ve...
if you search for jobs with like "software new grad", etc.
also maybe you can look at the companies here: https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023 and see if they're also hiring for new grad
lilac locust
smoky bone
if you search for jobs with like "software new grad", etc.
icic ty
chilly burrow
how do u find canadian companies, going through indeed but the results aren't ve...
tbh not many companies out rn
id say mayb a dozen or so
timber rock
elder hound
Did anyone who go to Broadway Tech super weekend end up with an offer here?
nocturne oriole
@pulsar mural @slate bobcat should i dox myself for clout
not here but to spread the gospel of kirb 350
i am asking you two because you are both menaces
i want to know what a menace thinks
elder hound
Just wondering because I ended up getting an offer but for another non SWE position. I was wondering if they did that to everyone or just me
KIRB 
350 
slate bobcat
<@657980540665724938> <@609720297565716492> should i dox myself for clout
not he...
If you do everyone knows you
It can be weird that people know the person behind some sus posts
that’s how I felt when people identified me IRL
west pagoda
True true Elon is only comfortably wealthy
nocturne oriole
It can be weird that people know the person behind some sus posts
This is true, i might never have a job in this country again
chilly burrow
<@657980540665724938> <@609720297565716492> should i dox myself for clout
not he...
I doxed myslf and I'm fine I tink
nocturne oriole
If you do everyone knows you
Honestly it’s mainly cuz i wanna spread kirb350 so if i could do it without a viral LinkedIn post i would
But many ppl have told me the only way to get the reach I want is linkedin. Or i could go viral on reddit but it’s hard there
Damn i prob dont have the karma to post
I barely use reddit
I’ll check
slender apex
how does one search up a linkedin job on linkedin
chilly burrow
But many ppl have told me the only way to get the reach I want is linkedin. Or i...
Posting on Reddit ain't hard
Just make a post
Crosspost here
Ask for engagement
And you'll prob do dece
nocturne oriole
Ok i’ll make a dummy account and hit karma threshold
Or i will borrow my friend’a#s
He went viral on reddit subs
So he can be my proxy
nocturne oriole
it's time to learn the who the real kirb is
Stop u are a threat
I have decided to keep my identity
tawdry skiff
Stop u are a threat
👁️ 👁️
👃
👄
👉 👈
I didn't check the linkedin tbh
even if people dox themselves to me, i dont dox them
since I wouldn't want to dox myself
🤝
prime palm
👁️ 👁️
👃
👄
👉 👈
What is this abomination
tawdry skiff
What is this abomination
👁️ 👁️
👃
👄
👉 👈
prime palm
👁️ 👁️
👃
👄
👉 👈
Add an eggplant
elder locust
this recruiter has been spamming me CTO positions for 3 months now, I decided to reply back today.
grizzled bronze
Anyone else starting to get emails from Trustradius to post reviews and get money?
The problem is it's geared towards companies, not job applicants like me
nocturne oriole
this recruiter has been spamming me CTO positions for 3 months now, I decided to...
forest aspen
Honestly it’s mainly cuz i wanna spread kirb350 so if i could do it without a vi...
ive been gatekeeping kirb 350 to people i think are unworthy of seeing it
chilly burrow
Anyone else starting to get emails from Trustradius to post reviews and get mone...
Ya I just ignore dem
I get similar emails from g2
or whatev it's called
foggy perch
idk blog post seems pretty doxxing when you have the most sus history of all, enjoying overwatch
grizzled bronze
Ya I just ignore dem
When I clicked one of the CodeSignal review links I saw some students had written reviews, it would be funny if they actually got gift cards for that (wouldn't be surprised if they did) 
foggy perch
disgusting
did you fail every interview when you mentioned enjoying playing support
👀
crude saffron
I regressed from my last year self
frank wedge
<@657980540665724938> <@609720297565716492> should i dox myself for clout
not he...
I am releasing the armhad 1000 so maybe you should wait
uncut umbra
warm sky
For what companies?
warm sky
If you're aiming for startups or specific roles it may help. But in most cases, it won't
tardy geode
oh i see
compact vortex
looks like google isnt gonna take any new grads at all this year unless you got invited to apply. they moved my app to past applications
tardy geode
i am aiming for anything related to swe at this point
grokking
i am waiting for the day to see "Congratulations we are delighted to extend you an offer"
thorn walrus
@tardy geode have you done any past internships?
foggy perch
"Congratulations we would be delighted to extend you an offer, but get waitlisted instead"
tardy geode
its good if you have no sys design exp/knowledge
frank wedge
Leetcode system design module
tardy geode
in CA
grizzled bronze
@compact vortex your friend was tattling on you at https://reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/z2xfxh/my_friend_got_an_internship_at_audible/
compact vortex
<@298550717864476672> your friend was tattling on you at https://reddit.com/r/cs...
bruh thats not me lmfao and I dont have any msft pm friends either lol
tardy geode
i built a tool that my org is using , and they didn't give me a rto 😦 . i built the whole tool from scratch . makes me feel very sad
frank wedge
No. Here’s chapter 1
thorn walrus
what if u delayed graduation for another internship
internships are a lot easier to come by this season
grizzled bronze
It’s separate from premium lmao
Did you feel it's worth the extra money or is it pretty basic?
thorn walrus
anecdotal but my interview resp rate was like 40% higher for internships 🤷
frank wedge
Did you feel it's worth the extra money or is it pretty basic?
It’s a great module. I’ve looked through previews of it. I used data intensive app textbook and Grokking at the time. But I would’ve used this instead of it were released last year
tardy geode
was chatting with one of the engineers(he was a part of my team) to whom i used to ask queries ,code reviews and stuff while i was interning . not flexing but this made me happy after a long time .
yeah but i think one should go for it if there's no time crunch
i had no sys design exp , but i studied grokking and watched many sys design mock interviews for 1 week for my internship interview .
tawdry skiff
<@298550717864476672> your friend was tattling on you at https://reddit.com/r/cs...
that was me
frank wedge
grizzled bronze
It’s a great module. I’ve looked through previews of it. I used data intensive a...
$40/YEAR not even permanent on top of Leetcode yearly membership. Jeez! I'll still buy when I need it though and then cancel 
tardy geode
yeah , start with grokking then watch several design videos so that you get to know the flow .
i think i have the pdf , can i share it via discord?
cool
frank wedge
As the course?
livid yew
was chatting with one of the engineers(he was a part of my team) to whom i used ...
you doxed their gender
Also does LinkedIn require gender now.
Their means they don't have a gender
They/their is the correct term
It did say he/him though, so if that's false, not my problem 
tardy geode
i have no offers , i am nervous af
livid yew
frank wedge
I think it’s missing some stuff
I need to read that typeahead design lol
That’s important for my new team 
prime palm
this recruiter has been spamming me CTO positions for 3 months now, I decided to...
LOL
prime palm
i am waiting for the day to see "Congratulations we are delighted to extend you ...
One day
Don't worry mr burger
teal jackal
No. Here’s chapter 1
what this?
frank wedge
what this?
Leetcode system design module
wheat seal
what if u delayed graduation for another internship
At that point I’d just go for a masters
08 recession lasted 18 mths and this isn’t nearly as bad as 08 since we aren’t even in a recession now
So if u just get a masters
And go for internship and next new grad cycle that’ll be smoother
Than just delaying grad
timber rock
just get a job lol
wheat seal
just get a job lol
Yea I was just talking about the other option besides delaying grad
And yea companies still hiring
teal jackal
08 recession lasted 18 mths and this isn’t nearly as bad as 08 since we aren’t e...
*yet
timber rock
get interview then pass interview then get job ez
nocturne oriole
somebody contact a r/csmajor mod homie and get em to approve my post
chilly burrow
somebody contact a r/csmajor mod homie and get em to approve my post
Just dm em and ask
They're usually pretty chill
nocturne oriole
yeah for r/cscq I do but nah i won't bother w/them
hoping r/csmajors forgives me
slate bobcat
prime palm
@nocturne oriole wanna come to my barbecue
nocturne oriole
What kind of bbq
teal jackal
tawdry skiff
<:wazsmile:1032675957498196018>
teal jackal
https://tenor.com/view/hongjoong-grai-hongjoong-gif-25579657
YOURE IN THE PREDECESSOR SERVER TOO?
are u planning on buying open beta for it?
i know i will
tawdry skiff
?
teal jackal
Predecessor - Omeda Studios
tawdry skiff
no I'm not in the predecessor server
teal jackal
My mutual servers says u are
tawdry skiff
oh idk how that happened lmao
grizzled bronze
I am eating pizza hut tomorrow
slender apex
dominos 5.99 coupon saved me from depression frfr
wraith seal
Expedia interviews
nova swan
somebody contact a r/csmajor mod homie and get em to approve my post
you mind posting the spreadsheet here?
jk finally found it in pinned
nocturne oriole
Yeah in seattle for example post tax income of just base salary for a respectable big N offer + dont want roomie leads to 30-40% of your income going to rent
As a new grad your spending/saving goals should mostly be, how to hit your 401k employer match, and getting a nice rainy day fund asap. And control your spending, i would say I like the 50/30/20 rule just because it forces u to budget two things: paying off debts + “fun” spending
Oh right and invest a good couple thousand asap
i would tend to agree because it's genuinely a lot of $ but i happen to know a lot of people who are really good savers but eat out way too much
they are like penny-foolish, pound-wise
(I'm borrowing from this phrase but reversing it https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/penny-wise and%2Fbut pound-foolish#:~:text=idiom,-wise and pound-foolish.)
pine topaz
spring ledge
Do all ng interviews ask sys design?
spring ledge
What are some examples of big tech that doesn’t
clever orbit
anyone applied to ripple?
teal jackal
https://youtu.be/iEIqVq7EZqE
Why go to therapy when this only takes 30 seconds and is free
buoyant pulsar
Does anyone know if referrals work for new grad positions at Google?
I've heard that when it comes to internships, referrals won't do much. With that being said, I'd like to confirm if that's the case with the new grad positions as well
teal jackal
i doubt theyll do much
buoyant pulsar
i doubt theyll do much
I see, then once I graduate and apply for L3 let's just hope I will pass the screening 😄 Thank you
sonic coral
I see, then once I graduate and apply for L3 let's just hope I will pass the scr...
That’s assuming there’s even gonna be an L3 position available tbh
warm sky
I'm sure it'll be way better than cold applying but it certainly doesn't bring you close to clearing screen without some luck
buoyant pulsar
Yes, of course haha
buoyant pulsar
I'm sure it'll be way better than cold applying but it certainly doesn't bring y...
I hate the fact that luck is such an important factor but it is what it is
I applied for internship positions at microsoft and google. Microsoft reached out in 3 days and google has been ghosting me ever since (3 months so far)
so I was like.. maybe I should get a referral for new grads later on in 2023
warm sky
Definitely worth a shot
If your resume is really good, reaching out directly to a recruiter may be even more effective
buoyant pulsar
I believe that my resume is decent, although I feel kinda bad just cold-messaging people I don't know from the company and ask for referrals
perhaps that's a wrong mindset here
warm sky
It's a recruiter's job to recruit people, so it's not a bad thing
plus it's not for referral, it's to get you directly past screen
I think you're thinking about messaging random engineers from the company, which yeah can feel a bit awkward
buoyant pulsar
To be honest, for me it felt the same haha
But if you take it into perspective, you're right. Recruiter's job is to recruit. Well, I'll give it a shot, worst case scenario I get ghosted again haha
Do you think I could message a recruiter now? for the internship positions I applied 3 months ago?
Or is it too late, I can't tell
warm sky
hard to say, if they haven't hit headcount, it's worth a shot
I got ghosted for a position, and got an interview 4 months later when I got a referral attached to it
buoyant pulsar
oh dang, then it's definitely possible and worth a shot
warm sky
yeah for sure
if it's not an outright reject, there may still be a chance
I think my resume just got archived and then brought into attention with the referral
buoyant pulsar
Could that possible have happen to me too? hmm
That's nice to hear in any case
warm sky
I'm not sure how google does things but maybe, my case was for a different company
buoyant pulsar
Sure yeah but like, how do you begin that kind of conversation with a recruiter. I've never done any research upon that to be honest
Do you have some kind of material I could go through and form a worthy reading message?
or should I just yolo it, and format a message on the spot
warm sky
I'm not too experienced with cold emailing, but there's this article from cscareers, which could be a good start https://www.cscareers.dev/blog/landing-software-engineer-interviews-through-cold-emailing
young peak
I hate the fact that luck is such an important factor but it is what it is
I like that there's a luck component, it makes it a lot easier to not blame myself too much
buoyant pulsar
I'm not too experienced with cold emailing, but there's this article from cscare...
Thank you for your feedback and sharing your experiences, I appreciate it!
buoyant pulsar
I like that there's a luck component, it makes it a lot easier to not blame myse...
Hahahahah pros and cons 😄
buoyant pulsar
I'm not too experienced with cold emailing, but there's this article from cscare...
Cold emailing > Cold messaging on LinkedIn ?
warm sky
generally yes
recruiter emails are harder to find than their linkedin profiles, so their linkedin's get way more flooded
buoyant pulsar
Makes sense lol, I'll try to find their emails instead
May I ask a stupid question
It's an edge case LOL
So, I'm Greek, what if I find a recruiter and he's Greek too? Also, suppose I find out his email, should I write it in Greek
young peak
Cold emailing > Cold messaging on LinkedIn ?
Not the biggest proponent of cold anything myself. I think a better way is to find SWEs or Hiring Managers directly on LN, send a connection and ask for any open positions. Usually they'll say yes and refer you too
I got a referral to Apple this way just last week
warm sky
Apple hires on a team-by-team basis though. Would this work as well for a company that hires for the company and team matches later on?
outer radish
looking for a job
buoyant pulsar
Not the biggest proponent of cold anything myself. I think a better way is to fi...
All right, I found a Greek recruiter that works at Google UK and I did apply 3 months ago there (still ongoing). Let's see, I'll probably try get ahead of time and find more recruiters
buoyant pulsar
I got a referral to Apple this way just last week
nice!
teal jackal
I got a referral to Apple this way just last week
Does this lead to interview?
Most alumni at a company will for sure accept your request for a referral tbh
Cold referring is not hard at all for anyone to do
marsh sand
Is BB phone lc tagged
teal jackal
Wow that's super enlightening
rigid quail
Wow that's super enlightening
you just can't control for that at all
marsh sand
What does bloomberg do besides terminal and news?
late kestrel
marsh sand
Okok
gloomy terrace
how tf do i find a job
i thought t5 + google would be good enough but nah
these hoes dont want me :/
iron lily
i thought t5 + google would be good enough but nah
fr. Even mid companies like Fidielity are competitive this year
Do you not have a return offer from Google?
rigid quail
i thought t5 + google would be good enough but nah
ain't no way drop your stats
how many apps, OAs etc.
pliant heron
Anyone hear from ebay after final?
narrow hollow
I’m still waiting but I think other companies I’ve interviewed with that same week still haven’t gotten back yet too
Might just be cause of the holiday season starting
pliant heron
I’m still waiting but I think other companies I’ve interviewed with that same we...
You mean ebay?
narrow hollow
oh wow
I’m surprised I haven’t been rejected yet tbh 💀. I wish they provided more context on what the interviews would actually be on cause each round was a surprise
pliant heron
Omg me too. I feel that i screwed up but I’m still waiting for miracle
narrow hollow
sameeee. hopefully we’ll get it!!
west egret
@pulsar mural YRT referral plz
nocturne seal
sameeee. hopefully we’ll get it!!
Did you have OOP and os questions?
foggy perch
<@657980540665724938> YRT referral plz
yudson river trading?
wraith seal
Do ppl who got Expedia's final all have SDE internships on their resume?
teal jackal
i thought t5 + google would be good enough but nah
Holy
even the cracked MFs arent getting interviews
wraith seal
What are the possible start dates if you get an offer from Palantir?
narrow hollow
Did you have OOP and os questions?
nah
narrow hollow
Just did lc tagged lol
same 😭
forest aspen
Do ppl who got Expedia's final all have SDE internships on their resume?
i never did
nocturne oriole
<@617024065735098426>
Wut
sharp stream
is the leetcode bot on here up to date?
sharp stream
Getting this @chilly burrow
sharp stream
Oh damn nice
chilly burrow
it is not my site hto
sharp stream
So this should be up to date to ur understanding?
Not sure I want to drop any money on LC
chilly burrow
So this should be up to date to ur understanding?
the last updated date is on the homepage
sharp stream
Appreciate it!
nocturne oriole
wraith seal
i never did
Ohh so you got their final or nah
forest aspen
i did
but im not allowed to do it in python so idk what ima do
i know some java but not down to really go in depth like that for a single interview
not sure yet
wraith seal
but im not allowed to do it in python so idk what ima do
?!! Was it the SWE ng role
forest aspen
its mobile dev which like kinda makes sense
they wernt offering a swe ng role when i applied
just mobile dev ng
wraith seal
not sure yet
Haven't you gotten hear back yet after the interview?
wraith seal
oh you mean final - i mean i got an interview
Yeah I think that's the final for expedia
At least for SWE ng role
forest aspen
ya id imagine
im still debating what im going to do about it
it doesnt hurt to say no
but im not sure about getting interview ready in another language rn
its not like i cant code in java or c++ but def not like ready to just do technical questions in those languages like python
teal jackal
karmic harness
put a cock instead
wraith seal
but im not sure about getting interview ready in another language rn
Ohh I thought you had already done your interviews with them
wraith seal
but im not sure about getting interview ready in another language rn
Good luck!
When is your interview btw
nocturne oriole
the things people are capable of doing with ascii art lol
OG's remember the gamefaqs guide days
wraith seal
I’m praying I get one
chilly burrow
the things people are capable of doing with ascii art lol
NFO manifestos
chilly burrow
like 9th i think
Gl 🙏
forest aspen
thanks 🙂
tall ridge
wtf was that spacex coding assessment
vague furnace
just mobile dev ng
What company was this?
teal jackal
Privileged to be a us citizen
I'm so excited to graduate this semester
And I'm gonna do jack shit
And spend all my time job searching and enjoying my shit
nocturne oriole
@pulsar mural @slate bobcat https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/z4t22v/one_lc_spreadsheet_to_rule_them_all_kirb_350_20/
dense tulip
dumb question but is Twitter hiring?
grizzled bronze
dumb question but is Twitter hiring?
Def not new grads unless you're super talented and can send Elon a proposal or some shit, you don't wanna work there though 
urban gulch
dumb question but is Twitter hiring?
U can ask the ceo directly, he’s @ elonmusk on Twitter
grizzled bronze
sonic coral
dumb question but is Twitter hiring?
Even if they were, why
tawdry skiff
a job is a job
🥹
earnest warrenBOT
added with the name "KIRBY_SADGE"
grizzled bronze
tawdry skiff
grizzled bronze
lucid viper
pine topaz
wait @tawdry skiff
and @grizzled bronze i just realized this is not #full_timers
woops wrong channel
tawdry skiff
proven plume
Typically how many rounds of interview are there for new grad MLE at tiktok?
coarse current
i thnk it is pretty standard across tiktok so OA, 3 tech round, HM (may or may not be technical), HR
sometimes it may just be 3 tech round without the HM, or 2 tech rounds with last tech round with HM
orchid tangle
!problems doordash
cerulean basinBOT
!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot
iron lily
HRT codesignal is auto btw
timber rock
yea they do a resume screen after the oa and i think u have to get a rly high score
i got 773 and got rejected, i haven't seen anyone below 840 get an interview
i didnt even know time mattered until after i submitted
spent like 20 mins trying to fix the last few test cases on one q lol
pulsar mural
pure plank
Anyone have any idea about Shipt interview and their salaries??
wheat seal
Is it normal to get promoted to senior swe in less than 2 years from new grad swe?
Or is that promo too fast?
I wouldn’t
BB interviewers don’t even show at times
wheat seal
Is it normal to get promoted to senior swe in less than 2 years from new grad sw...
Yea it happened at my company. But tbh I feel like once u can work independently everything else is just an inflated title
Like swe 2 with 2 years at company could easily be staff
fluid bloom
Anyone have any idea about Shipt interview and their salaries??
Ya dm
livid yew
Is it normal to get promoted to senior swe in less than 2 years from new grad sw...
I mean usually SWE1 (NG) then 1-2 years to SWE2 then 2-3 years to SWE3(Senior)
Although at our place senior is SWE4
wheat seal
I mean usually SWE1 (NG) then 1-2 years to SWE2 then 2-3 years to SWE3(Senior)
I’ve heard differently. 1 year promo is extremely fast but possible
livid yew
We have an extra step for some reason 
tardy geode
just need 1 offer
livid yew
I’ve heard differently. 1 year promo is extremely fast but possible
Well I mean you probably have 2 promo cycles for senior
wheat seal
Like usually swe 2 is 18-24 mths from swe 1
livid yew
You gotta be top of your game
wheat seal
Well I mean you probably have 2 promo cycles for senior
At the end of the day there’s not much of a difference between swe 2 and senior right
livid yew
I was working very independently as SWE1 at my first job
I've never been a NG engineer with mentor
wheat seal
I've never been a NG engineer with mentor
Did they write out JIRA tickets?
livid yew
We have a scrum manager for that
wheat seal
My company has mentors because task is never defined in JIRA. It’s blank - the description
livid yew
Oh I had to go ask client for requirements as SWE1
Like
But also I am a very independent person, who usually turns down help
wheat seal
We have a scrum manager for that
Oh each engineer makes a ticket
wheat seal
Oh I had to go ask client for requirements as SWE1
So this was like consulting?
livid yew
So this was like consulting?
Nope
livid yew
Well other internal teams, but those are the "client"
wheat seal
Oh ok
wheat seal
Yea that’s basically kinda what I have to do then except it’s within my direct team
Since JIRA ticket isn’t defined
Need to get context
livid yew
Yea that’s basically kinda what I have to do then except it’s within my direct t...
Oh that was expected from day 1, 3 months after graduation
I sorta skipped ramp
wheat seal
Oh that was expected from day 1, 3 months after graduation
I mean like we don’t have a scrum manager making tickets
Our engineers make it themselves
So if u want context out of a blank description from a JIRA ticket
The only option is to go to the one who made the ticket
livid yew
I see,
wheat seal
The title could be like 5 words so it’s not much to go off of
livid yew
wheat seal
<:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728760>
Like “Add field to logs”
“Emit metrics on blank lambda “
Stuff like that
Sometimes they made it months ago and it might not even be needed so just have to check
wheat seal
Yep pretty standard stuff
Yea but u need to know what metrics to emit, so u ask other engineer
Who made ticket
wheat seal
Yep pretty standard stuff
As swe 1 Idt most things are difficult. It’s simple to get you to adjust. Main thing my manager said is to try and touch everything and gain knowledge
tardy geode
wheat seal
I mean usually SWE1 (NG) then 1-2 years to SWE2 then 2-3 years to SWE3(Senior)
Oh wait I see what u mean. Ur saying 2-3 yrs after getting swe 2?
wheat seal
<:blob_yes:869031460068286465>
But at my company someone got senior swe in less than 2 years from New grad swe
Like that doesn’t seem realistic
Ur performance is evaluated twice per year
So that means basically after every 6 mths they got a promo?
So like worked as new grad for 1 year+
livid yew
Well we have rolling promos, so you can get promo any time of year
And in my case I was never a "new grad" engineer
Just a SWE1 so same interview as industry
wheat seal
And in my case I was never a "new grad" engineer
Oh I c
Yea we only hire new grads at my company
For Swe 1
I think we have a bootcamp program though
For bootcamp grads
wheat seal
Well we have rolling promos, so you can get promo any time of year
That’s nice
But yea it really suprised me that senior swe is achievable in less than 2 yrs at my company going from new grad swe
wheat seal
Ya there are gods everywhere
Google it probably wouldn’t happen right? I know neetcode got promo after 10mths right? Since he got a project too difficult by accident
And he spent like 6 mths working on project
And actually finished it
So he got swe 2 promo after just 10mths at google
torpid birch
Yeah that's not that strange
wheat seal
Yeah that's not that strange
I thought google was hella stingy with promo
torpid birch
I mean it's uncommon but not like that strange
wheat seal
That’s why ppl always said go to meta instead
Since google u might spend 2-3yrs as SWE 1
Like google will increase ur TC multiple times between levels
torpid birch
Yeah people can get promos right after joining within a year
wheat seal
But won’t give u a promo for awhile
torpid birch
Thats the easiest promo anyway
wheat seal
Thats the easiest promo anyway
Yea u just need to work independently
torpid birch
If you're a god you can climb every 2 years until like senior principal
wheat seal
If you're a god you can climb every 2 years until like senior principal
6 years to staff seems reasonable
ornate cliff
What's everyone's plan for unemployment?
wheat seal
But not at google I feel
torpid birch
6 years to staff seems reasonable
That's more uncommon than 1 year promo to sde2
wheat seal
Like senior swe is terminal level no?
torpid birch
I think
ornate cliff
There's a Subway next door hiring
wheat seal
That's more uncommon than 1 year promo to sde2
Depends on company I think
Like mid sized or startup yea
wheat seal
If you're a god you can climb every 2 years until like senior principal
My manager says 18-24mths to swe 2 from swe 1 is fine and what he expects since everyone has different learning curves.
ornate cliff
Amazon will promo in 1 year, they've been rinsed of SDE2s
wheat seal
Amazon will promo in 1 year, they've been rinsed of SDE2s
Yea I could see that
torpid birch
Nah
ornate cliff
The downside is you'll be working like a dog
Someone in my team didn't take their pat leave
torpid birch
You don't become magically more productive after a promo
wheat seal
I mean like u are expected to become senior swe but it’s fine to stop at mid level swe right? But anything above senior is probably never happening in big tech companies
torpid birch
And they will have to pay more for ur promo
wheat seal
And they will have to pay more for ur promo
At most companies u think 18-24mths is Normal from swe 1 to swe 2?
timber rock
l4 is terminal at google
wheat seal
l4 is terminal at google
Yea senior swe is way more work right?
ornate cliff
Yea senior swe is way more work right?
Yeah it's terrible 🤣
wheat seal
Like at smaller companies they have inflated titles usually? so senior swe at middle sized tech company is basically l4 at google?
torpid birch
At most companies u think 18-24mths is Normal from swe 1 to swe 2?
Ya
torpid birch
Like at smaller companies they have inflated titles usually? so senior swe at m...
Nah it depends a lot, some do but FAANG just likes to say they have a higher bar
wheat seal
Nah it depends a lot, some do but FAANG just likes to say they have a higher bar
Oh I c
torpid birch
Well imo at least
wheat seal
Also maybe it’s because they are being cheap
They want to pay you as low as possible right. They can only have so many seniors
livid yew
That’s nice
Yep
torpid birch
Well everyome does
Seniors you can have infinite of
The one that are limited are like principal/staff
livid yew
So we have weird title structure
torpid birch
Everyone always wants more senior devs I think
wheat seal
Well everyome does
I always see from google like if ur not making a lateral transition from another big tech company then you will always get downleveled
Like 2-3yrs, ull probably get l3 at google
torpid birch
Usually that's about like pay and prestige and stuff, other companies n+1 level pay less than Google's n level so they still get a pay bump
wheat seal
Usually that's about like pay and prestige and stuff, other companies n+1 level ...
True
livid yew
What about prestige even matters
torpid birch
And I think downleveling is super common
livid yew
To me it's a useless dick measuring contest
wheat seal
Usually that's about like pay and prestige and stuff, other companies n+1 level ...
I’d honestly prefer this lol
torpid birch
Just that if ur from other faang you're less likely to take it
torpid birch
Also the faang better than thou bias
livid yew
Well GL with your path @wheat seal
wheat seal
Well GL with your path <@683231612938616839>
Tnx. I’ve been swe for 5mths now lol. Hopefully I get promo a year from now
timber rock
Like 2-3yrs, ull probably get l3 at google
havent heard much about this but i would be pretty surprised if someone with 3yoe gets l3
wheat seal
havent heard much about this but i would be pretty surprised if someone with 3yo...
U can see it a lot from blind posts also just YouTube videos in general
Ik blind isn’t best resource tbh
Like tons of ppl capping there
wheat seal
One of my intern mentor got a promo to staff last year
How many yrs experience?
This at google?
wheat seal
They got acquired by arm
Oh u from the UK?
wheat seal
He has 12 yoe or so
Oh nice
livid yew
Tnx. I’ve been swe for 5mths now lol. Hopefully I get promo a year from now
Wrong emote
lament basin
someone gimme hedge fund offer plz & thx
wheat seal
Wrong emote
Also does comcast have oncall?
livid yew
Also does comcast have oncall?
Of course
We have many many engineering teams
Like several thousand engineers
livid yew
Nothing new to me
wheat seal
And never bother to ask during interviews
Like sometimes it’s just SRE with after hours oncall
livid yew
Oh we might have a SRE team, I am not sure
wheat seal
Some companies don’t have SRE tho on teams
livid yew
I should ask
polar quail
wtf was that spacex coding assessment
exx...actly
livid yew
I am 2020 graduate so several offers
fervent drift
I am 2020 graduate so several offers <a:aPES_Laugh:664885767574781964>
send one to me
fervent drift
exx...actly
what was it>
livid yew
send one to me
Well these offers expired back in May
Also not New Grad offers, so you probably won't qualify
polar quail
what was it>
well it was for intern but basically a database/algo problem
livid yew
VSCode
fervent drift
vim
fervent drift
google docs
tardy geode
fervent drift
microsoft paint
tardy geode
bruh say notepad
fervent drift
notepad++
fossil jewel
intelij is good
livid yew
is there any alternative for eclipse to run java
Just use VSCode like everyone else dude. Stop trying to be "special"
fossil jewel
not lightweight
wheat seal
did everyone get an offer lol?
I got 2 offers last year and ended process in September. This year is a lot harder tho
tardy geode
Just use VSCode like everyone else dude. Stop trying to be "special"
i see
fossil jewel
intelij is better for java
fervent drift
I got 2 offers last year and ended process in September. This year is a lot hard...
thanks ima go drown in my sorrows
0 offers
fossil jewel
vscode for everything else 
fervent drift
hiring cycle coming to an end
livid yew
I was thinking of a different word, but it might be sussy word
fervent drift
i shold end myself
fossil jewel
if you're a student you can get a free license
fervent drift
Intellij cost money
not for students
wheat seal
thanks ima go drown in my sorrows
I started early last year but this year is much much harder. There’s companies that are still hiring like ADP, visa
fossil jewel
yes
livid yew
if you're a student you can get a free license
Yep. I still have free edition
For ever
fervent drift
I started early last year but this year is much much harder. There’s companies t...
yea ive applied just havent heard anything back yet
livid yew
Alumni edu email
fervent drift
need to send an email to them
wheat seal
yea ive applied just havent heard anything back yet
Visa? Or adp?
fossil jewel
i tried making a spring repo in vscode and it never made it lol
wheat seal
I know someone who works with devops at ADP and they have been enjoying the work there. They have like 10k sign on. 95k tc year 1 and 85k recurring. And his team moves fairly fast
fervent drift
I know someone who works with devops at ADP and they have been enjoying the work...
nice
ask if he refer
fossil jewel
ADP seems chill
wheat seal
He works remote but team is based in nyc
fervent drift
the dream
wheat seal
So basically it’s 95k remote year 1, 85k recurring
fossil jewel
i thought ADP's hq was in NJ
fervent drift
hq is in roseland
wheat seal
But his team is in nyc
wheat seal
i thought ADP's hq was in NJ
Oh misread yea but they have a lot of offices
fervent drift
95k in georgia is nice
wheat seal
95k in georgia is nice
Yea it’s pretty cheap to live there
1800/mth for 800 square feet
So u could honestly go cheaper with rent
fervent drift
ive applied to over 80% of the github repo and like other handful of jobs linkedin, glassdor, handshake
either ghost or auto reject
my resume aint even bad smh
wheat seal
ive applied to over 80% of the github repo and like other handful of jobs linked...
It’s not even u, it’s just this season
Also it’s still fairly early
fervent drift
how
wheat seal
Like mainly big tech
fervent drift
apps opened like late july
wheat seal
Has ended hiring
wheat seal
apps opened like late july
For big tech
fervent drift
ye smaller companies still hiring
wheat seal
ye smaller companies still hiring
Like Walmart hasn’t opened yet
timber rock
it ain't late lol i interviewed with amazon like late march this year lol
sage sluice
Like Walmart hasn’t opened yet
walmart is open wym
wheat seal
ahh yes walmart swe
Global tech actually pays well
wheat seal
walmart is open wym
Are they?
sage sluice
i have an offer from them
fervent drift
grads Where do you work? Walmart
wheat seal
i have an offer from them
Industry?
wheat seal
*grads* Where do you work? Walmart
Qualtrics
sage sluice
swe
sage sluice
idk if thats what you meant
wheat seal
I mean industry hire
fervent drift
aight boys ima go back to makin my portfolio
sage sluice
im new grad
fervent drift
thanks for the advice i appreciate it
wheat seal
im new grad
Ik but did u apply as industry hire
I haven’t seen global tech
Release apps
sage sluice
wym industry hire?
wheat seal
Oh nvm I see
Check out this job at Walmart: (USA) 2023 Full-Time Campus: Software Engineer II
sage sluice
yeah
wheat seal
Check out this job at Walmart: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3296453207
sage sluice
it didnt specify a division or whatever
wheat seal
It didn’t say Walmart global tech in offer?
wheat seal
it didnt specify a division or whatever
Was tc 130k year 1?
wheat seal
Oh I see they probably raised it
wheat seal
it was more
Did u get cal?
tardy geode
Walmart global tech is same as Walmart?
yea labs , tech same
for swe 2 they give peanuts
they wanna make bentonville like amazon has made seattle 💀
iron herald
They are building huge campus in bentonville
wheat seal
they wanna make bentonville like amazon has made seattle 💀
I mean the work is probably good tho
They use Splunk for ops work, and typescript with some teams so at least ur getting good experience there
Also recession proof
wheat seal
for swe 2 they give peanuts
I mean yea 145k in cal isn’t much year 1 with 130k recurring
But it’s not bad for first job I think
wheat seal
for swe 2 they give peanuts
Do they throw u in random team?
wheat seal
aight boys ima go back to makin my portfolio
Have u applied to Walmart?
livid yew
for swe 2 they give peanuts
Peanut DN
tardy geode
Also recession proof
how
wheat seal
I saw one robot in Costco moving goods
tardy geode
Do they throw u in random team?
yeah i think
wheat seal
Also their EPS is always good
wheat seal
Consumers will always buy cheap goods at Walmart
So like they never will layoff essential swes
Maybe a reorg like other companies but never a true layoff
They haven’t done a layoff
wheat seal
Yea a reorg is different
tardy geode
in july who got laid off
wheat seal
A reorg isn’t a layoff tho
tardy geode
oh i see
tardy geode
this economy is unpredictable af
they ain't hiring swe 3's i think
swe2s only as they don't req sponsorship
tardy geode
I mean the work is probably good tho
tbh that's team dependent
if you are in adtech then yes
but yeah in this economy eveything is fine
wheat seal
tbh that's team dependent
Did u get Walmart offer?
marsh sand
Guys is BB top 50 enough
to pass phone
I have it in less than 24 hours and just started studying LMAO
I have 300+ LC so far but that was last year so my brain reset smh
fervent drift
Have u applied to Walmart?
not yet
prime hill
U mean arkansas
prime palm
Guys is BB top 50 enough
100