2023_grads

[teal jackal]

Spacex loop is very long

No

[grizzled bronze]

[teal jackal]

I honestly have no idea what my future is gonna be

I don't inherently mind having to continue to job search into 2023, I just mind that it feels like all the good companies are done

And I think I'll be running out of chances at my goal

[tardy geode]

same

i had one hope even that's gone

since the past 3 days i am feeling lost with no direction to go , even my LC routine has been messed up since 3 days

WHY ALWAYS US?

[prime palm]

@tardy geode my brother

You will be okay

[timber rock]

apply to smaller companies lol

the world has not ended because big n is not hiring

[tardy geode]

hope so bro

[tardy geode]

they don't sponsor

[timber rock]

oh well rip ur fucked ig

[formal glen]

is this for swe or internship?

[teal jackal]

Honestly it's okay, I didn't really work hard in college and I was very late to working hard for the job search.

I don't deserve faangmula yet

I haven't worked hard enough for it

[prime palm]

"Faangmula" is not something you need to torture yourself over to achieve

[teal jackal]

I genuinely don't work hard

So it's okay

[timber rock]

this acronym gets longer every day

[prime palm]

FAANGMULASS

[teal jackal]

I don't mind that I don't have a chance as a new grad

I genuinely understand why

[tardy geode]

its easy to say but would be life changing if that happens , restarting back in my home country is like you're done with life

[teal jackal]

I'm working hard now with the expectations that long run it'll pay off

[timber rock]

cant say i know much about american visas but surely there are companies that sponsor other than faangmulassshitpoo

[fossil jewel]

i like the acronym of FLAMINGASS better

[sage sluice]

this recruiting season has hands fr

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-ok-and-gif-19666657

[prime palm]

Good thing I got 4 more

https://tenor.com/view/machamp-eating-selfvore-gif-19939097

[teal jackal]

My scars from the new grad search will heal, and when they're done healing they'll be strong enough for me to enter quant

[strange ore]

?

[teal jackal]

[sage sluice]

this season has us saying shit like "this will make me stronger in the long run"

[teal jackal]

Tbh it's the single biggest piece of copium out there

I say this shit fully knowing it doesn't work

[sage sluice]

i mean in all seriousness im sure its good to deal with failure

its just funny

cuz we getting the shit beat out of us

[teal jackal]

Tbh something that really sucks is when the world beats you down and there's nothing you actually did wrong to deserve it

There's not even a lesson to be learned from it

[strange ore]

the grind will be rewarded inshallah

have faithh

[teal jackal]

I think the main thing I've learned is accepting that you have no control over a lot of major things in life

[prime palm]

THANKU

[teal jackal]

Also accepting failure and being able to keep your head up despite the odds being stacked against you

I think maintaining good morale in the worst of circumstances is a good soft skill

Can't see any hope ahead? Just pop some pills and hallucinate visions of hope and eventually you'll stumble upon real hope

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/islam-allah-quran-muslim-alhumdulillah-gif-17648946

[teal jackal]

I've noticed that ghosting over 2 weeks at Bloomberg leads to reject

Every case ive seen suggests it

I don't mind continuing my grindset into new years 2023 if I still had hope that there are still companies to grind for

[prime palm]

Cap

Friend got ghosted 3 weeks

Then got offer

EM *

^

[teal jackal]

I'm ghosted at phone stage

[timber rock]

from what ive heard phone rejects usually come the day after

so ur probably fine

happened to me and my friend as well

[teal jackal]

I'm losing my mind over employment

You know what I should just embrace that I'm not getting into faang and just chill while I have free time

I should grind but do it slowly

Slowly and in a way that leaves me ample time for hobbies

[timber rock]

no one's getting into faang for a while lol just chill and get a half decent job then hop to faang in a year or two

faang ain't the best thing in the world anyway

[teal jackal]

Yeah I've accepted that

[azure zephyr]

do you have any offers yet?

[teal jackal]

No

[timber rock]

🤝

[teal jackal]

I have 2 interviews scheduled, and 6 active recruiting loops open for me

Other 4 are waiting for interview results, or waiting for interview after non-auto OA

[echo stratus]

nice with 6 loops ur chances of getting at least 1 offer r very high imo

[timber rock]

ur chilling bro

[sage skiff]

Any tips on negotiating ? I have 2 offers and trying to leverage one of them

[azure zephyr]

who you interviewing with? and im sure youll land at least one of those

[teal jackal]

I don't usually like to say where just yet

[azure zephyr]

ahh gotcha

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural why are u working at 330am

[teal jackal]

We are living through history right now

Right now is the only time that it will ever be 5:10pm in Massachusetts on November 21, 2022

🤯

It will never be 5:10pm on November 21, 2022 ever again in Massachusetts

[timber rock]

[granite kindle]

has anyone done a C coding challenge for tesla?

[nocturne oriole]

Ayo chill dawg

[teal jackal]

officially rejected from bloomberg

[strange ore]

https://haseebq.com/my-ten-rules-for-negotiating-a-job-offer/

[prime hill]

[bright mountain]

when was your VO?

[prime hill]

11/10

right before they cancelled upcoming ones

[bright mountain]

lmao nice

[prime hill]

i've seen ppl do good that interviewed i think before your additional round that got rejected already

so you prob have a good chance

i havent heard of any offers for a couple weeks though, im guessing they're doing waves of rejections to prune down the remaining candidates

only have hope cuz they haven't rejected all of us yet

[tardy geode]

so i did this takehome assesment for a firm , nowhere in the job requirements nor in the assessment it was stated that we need grads who are graduating in dec2022 or somethin like taht

now the recruiter says we ain't hiring for summer and like 2-3 hours back she sent me a scheduling emaik

[timber rock]

they don't deserve u bro

[echo stratus]

bruh wasted ur time

which companies give out takehome assessments tho I've never encountered one in my life

actually once

with shopify

[teal jackal]

airtable

[echo stratus]

huh

[teal iris]

I haven't heard back from DoorDash after my onsite which was 1.5 weeks ago. Is that normal?

[echo stratus]

mind sharing this company with me?

[timber rock]

Iirc I got one for Roku

Didn't do it cba

Oh wait

It was Cloudflare

Not roku

[echo stratus]

I might be open to doing a takehome if they're like < 2 hrs

But from that I've heard they're usually longer

[timber rock]

Mine was making a js api or some shit and at that point I had never touched js or apis

So just didn't even try lol

[echo stratus]

lol tbh same I'm not gonna learn something new just for a takehome

[fallen fox]

its 2022 even witch asks lc hards

[echo stratus]

never encountered a hard in my interviews either lol

[timber rock]

I got 2 of them at amazon, other than that it's always been 90% mediums and an easy every so often

[echo stratus]

but most of my interview experience is from early this year and earlier

[echo stratus]

damn 2 hards in 1 interview is them basically setting u up to fail

[timber rock]

Yeah hahah

It was 2x45 interviews, each was 15 min of lp and then an lc hard

[echo stratus]

damn

[timber rock]

Solved one of em with some shitty o(n^275) solution but the other I didn't even manage to start

[echo stratus]

n^275 lmao

shoulda given them a n^69420

[teal jackal]

n^275 story of my life HAHA

[timber rock]

Bit of an exaggeration hahah but yeah it was bad

But it worked

[echo stratus]

I feel hella proud whenever I solve a hard not even accounting how much time it took

[timber rock]

If you're interested in looking them up it was 273. integer to english words and 1597. build binary expression tree from infix expression

On lc

[echo stratus]

oh i've done integer to english

pretty cancer

[timber rock]

Yeah its not super hard

Just a lot of work

[echo stratus]

eyah

[teal jackal]

WAIT A MINUTE

I actually realized a good silver lining about not being able to work at Faang

i'll still be able to apply for game dev roles

because with high paying tech jobs, the lifestyle creep is real

Once I'm in big tech, I'll never be able to work in game dev because of the pay grade

but If i work somewhere mediocre, game dev will still be an upgrade to me

[timber rock]

Honestly bro I think you just gotta relax hahah

[teal jackal]

working somewhere mediocre keeps the game dev door open

[timber rock]

Feel like you're always stressing over shit

That u can't change

[teal jackal]

I think I need hobbies to be part of my routine

[timber rock]

That is a good idea

[teal jackal]

I think I'll leetcode less, and do more game dev stuff

work on my game engine, work on csgo mods

[timber rock]

If you wanna do game dev as a job

That is a way better use of your time than leetcoding

[teal jackal]

If big tech doesn't want me, that's their loss

I'll use my energy for passion work

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

I think the healthiest way to approach the job search is to "quiet quit" the grind

[dense blaze]

Grind DN

[teal jackal]

just do it from time to ttime and focus on my personal shit

the shit id do first if i had no obligations

[frank wedge]

[young peak]

Make time outside of work for hobbies tf

Lifestyle creep is a myth. You're always gonna be mildly unhappy with your money even with millions

[timber rock]

whek you get into big tech you will realise that big tech is not the source of happiness lmao

[dull wyvern]

i dont mind that!!

[teal jackal]

getting there is step 1

tbh im just in a really bad mood from my interview rescinded

thats all

my cousins grandfather in japan makes 600k/year USD equivalent in japan

step-grandpa

and my cousin is inheriting the restaurant business

[timber rock]

And not getting into faang as a new grad means almost nothing for your long term career

You have another 50 years to do that

[young peak]

You'll find better stability in mid tier companies rn lmfao

[fossil jewel]

"if i dont get faang now, i'll be poor when im 65 "

[tawdry skiff]

"if i dont get faang now, i'll be poor when im 65 :woeisme: "

[fossil jewel]

[tawdry skiff]

sorry I'm poor

open for nitro gifts

[dense blaze]

"if i dont get faang now, i'll be poor when im 65 :woeisme: "

[nocturne seal]

datadog still hiring? Recruiter just reached out

[fossil jewel]

they are?

i got rejected back in august

after HR screen with referral too

[nocturne seal]

hmm

[fossil jewel]

best of luck though!

[nocturne seal]

Thanksss

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural answer this

[tawdry skiff]

Time zone makes it 6:30

Bomba don't see no clocks

[smoky bone]

holy shit worst interview exp with tesla autopilot. Guy took the call in a submarine, can't even hear him

[fossil jewel]

working at lockheed does that

[sonic coral]

Lmfao what

[smoky bone]

his mic quality was so ass, honestly thought it would been initially but once he started explaining stuff i legit could not understand him

[nocturne seal]

Where

Bruh huge W

[chilly burrow]

from forward to hrt

real downgrade 😦

/jk

[livid yew]

y'all need some displates for your NYC apartments

on sale

[sonic coral]

Is your ass sponsored or something

[ivory stratus]

anybody in here take a job with an airline?

[sonic coral]

Ay to the peeps dming me with message requests, please make a thread or ask me directly here, thanks

[livid yew]

perhaps

need multiple income streams

[tawdry skiff]

Can you lawyer away these debt collectors

[rain patio]

hello lc gods

what guide u follow

is there neetcode top 75 or something?

[grizzled bronze]

real lc gods aren't here, they're on Leetcode and don't have time for Discord

[ivory stratus]

i think there is a neetcode 75 isn't there

[rain patio]

i mean what do i start if i havent done lc in a while

[pallid kernel]

personally i did grokking, and it helped me land a faang offer

[rain patio]

[pallid kernel]

but thats anecdotal ofc

[ivory stratus]

oh yeah

[pallid kernel]

just love grokking to death

[ivory stratus]

go cry in a corner for a while

[rain patio]

[ivory stratus]

why do you love grokking?

[pallid kernel]

it was laid out really nicely for stupid people like me

like the patterns were explicitly described

[ivory stratus]

did you like it more than just b75?

[pallid kernel]

yeah

it has more direction and hand holding

[ivory stratus]

hmmmm maybe ill check it out

i looked at it a bit but that's it

[pallid kernel]

i found a free version on libgen

[ivory stratus]

i plan on grinding this summer for new grad positions next year

see what happens idk

[pallid kernel]

i need to start applying again

sighs

im really scared my offer is gonna get rescinded

[ivory stratus]

who do you ahve an offer for?

[pallid kernel]

amazon

[ivory stratus]

ooooooooof

you might be fine though who knows

[wicked rivet]

grind 75, neetcode 150

[dusty mauve]

what org sushi

[wicked rivet]

thats p much it

[pallid kernel]

DART = digital accounting

[rain patio]

bet

[dusty mauve]

welll ur not in alexa or retail

[tawdry skiff]

I was

Now I'm not

[random canyon]

Anyone know anything about Palantir? Is it a good company to work at?

[tawdry skiff]

Oh I left along time ago lmao

Not a part of the layoff wave

[outer radish]

what's everyone's strat for becoming an lc god

💀

wb if its nov 21

[ivory stratus]

10 qs a day

ez

[outer radish]

but ur checking the discuss on every question cause ur not crack cocaine

what if the company ur simping 4 jus rejected u

yeah tbh like i've been able to recognize the approach, but coding it up always has me fucked lol

ah yeah that makes sense

[pallid kernel]

i used spaced repetition to revisit problems i couldnt solve

also just repeating the same problem over and over helped soldifiy patterns in my head

[outer radish]

yeah i definitely have to work on this

[outer radish]

i've been doing this but some questions I wont be able to code out to completion unless I check the solutions again - i was thinking about shortening the intervals, maybe using anki

[wheat seal]

i think its important not to memorize

dont review problems too frequently

https://leetcode.com/discuss/general-discussion/318537/Consistent-Practice-Advice/295357

just remember nott too memorize

and dont do problems too frequently

and the above advice is golden too ^

[maiden fable]

what companies open new grad applications in june/july?

[lament summit]

i dont think any

[outer radish]

ah this is proper

preciate the advice guise

[lament summit]

late july early aug

palantir, trading firms

[wheat seal]

u mean for 2024 recruiting?

[marsh sand]

How the heck do you prepare for palantir decomp

[lament summit]

i would assume so

[maiden fable]

yeah

[random canyon]

What’s Palantir like? I have an interview Wednesday

[wheat seal]

rng

[lament summit]

u mean the job

the hr call?

the karat?

the hm round?

[random canyon]

The job

[wheat seal]

also nike pay is way higher than i wouldve thought. 120k remote

i think so yea

prolly not

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3363533806

it looks solid

they have traditional oncall as well

24 x 7

[ivory stratus]

lol wordpress

[wheat seal]

oh damn didnt see that lol

[knotty talon]

Easy way to take TC to 300k 🙏

[wheat seal]

duda

and wordpress

what is that

idk y u would need to be oncall for that

with splunk

i think whoever wrote the job post messed up with wordpress

[ivory stratus]

yeah theres no way a swe is doing wordpress

im sure its not really in the job

[wheat seal]

120k remote wordpress job

[ivory stratus]

yeah that's pretty sick lol

would be chill af

[wheat seal]

damn yall get those scam messages from ppl?

on linkedin

that talk about "operate in the e-commerce space, utilizing concepts similar to Uber, Amazon."

[wheat seal]

this post is more accurate : https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3353727165

i think this might be for new grads as well maybe

[echo stratus]

For employees based in NYC and Westchester County, NY, this position has an annual base salary range of 128,500 - 192,500.

not bad

[wheat seal]

its remote though yea

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[whole roost]

I'm surprised this doesn't have more applicants

Slipped under the radar

[livid yew]

Bruh where

Nobody dumb enough to pay that much for WordPress

[oak rose]

anyone have thoughts on doordash/know what it's like working there

[prime palm]

I like it more than Uber Eats

[pallid kernel]

yeah ive used anki and its helped a lot

[oak rose]

lmaooo

[rigid quail]

how do y’all use anki for problem solving , or is it just to memorize the patterns?

[oak rose]

any thoughts on working there for swe tho/heard what it's like from friends

[prime palm]

No

[pallid kernel]

i use it to revist problems and i write out the solution to them again

i use anki on an ipad and i physically write out the steps and then the code

[rigid quail]

how does that help when you encounter a new problem? or have you done so many that barely happens

[pallid kernel]

im able to apply what i learned from previous problems to the new problem

[rigid quail]

so anki is just to stay fresh on the solutions?

[pallid kernel]

maybe i just got lucky with my interview questions and they were similar to the grokking problems

yeah basically

[rigid quail]

smart idea tbh

the next generation of swes is gonna live and breath LC

[quiet pasture]

airtablbloomberg

[wheat seal]

Recessions only last for like < 2 yrs

Like 08 was only 18mths

Rn we aren’t even in a recession

Just an economic downturn

Hopefully it’s over in 2023

[rigid quail]

there has been 2 quarters of negative growth

they’re not calling it a recession but we all know what’s happening

but that wasn’t my point, everyone is starting to ask LC recession or not

[wheat seal]

2 quarters of negative growth

It then saw positive growth

In next quarter

So it technically ended then

It’s just an economic downturn

It’s not a recession until NBER says it is

It’s not nearly as bad as 08

But still bad

[rigid quail]

not a good thing to have one body control the messaging of the world economy

[wheat seal]

True but basically we aren’t in a recession more

[rigid quail]

but anyways, yeah the economy overall isn’t decimated like 08 but tech just got the biggest hit

[wheat seal]

We saw a quarter of positive GDP

[rigid quail]

again the whole LC thing is irrespective of the economy lol

[wheat seal]

Oh yea true

But yea it’s good to do LC

Because

This will most likely be over next year

[rigid quail]

yeah i’m doing a lot of problems rn

[teal jackal]

I know I'm planning on no-lifeing through winter break

and just working on LC and personal projects

I genuinely need to make the most out of that time

[ornate cliff]

Soooooo

what's unemployment like?

any tips?

[ornate cliff]

why both? just do LC

[teal jackal]

because I'm also applying to game dev roles

I have a good personal project idea that might be a good hook for game dev roles

and that is building my own graphics engine

[ornate cliff]

LFGGGGG

[ornate cliff]

You gonna Riot Games I'm calling it

They ask linear algebra more than LC no?

[teal jackal]

thats kinda sick

i didnt know they did that

i can respect that

[ornate cliff]

Idk bro I was just wondering out loud

[teal jackal]

ahhhh

yeah idk

I just am interested in game engines

Right now I have two completely different potential career interests:
1.) Game Engine development
2.) Backend, cloud, and distributed systems

[ornate cliff]

How's your c++

[frank wedge]

Might be better to work on game dev as your own venture on the side. I think doing it as a career might ruin your passion for it tbh

[teal jackal]

passable

though I REALLY need to study up on c++

[chilly burrow]

Work at Unity, Pragma, or Epic

Unite your passions 🌈

[teal jackal]

Are they hiring?

[left shoal]

did you give it?

[clever orbit]

anyone got hacks for pymetrics test for mastercard?

[golden wagon]

isnt pay and wlb generally rly bad at game companies?

[teal jackal]

I don't care that much about wlb, I don't have a lot of personal hobbies anymore anyways.

Tbh I don't expect to be paid much in game development but I don't think I'll be paid like a liberal arts major either.

[golden wagon]

lmao

i mean that's easy to say now but work is work after all and it wont be all enjoyable

and being worked to the bone for smth that u cant fully enjoy is not always ideal

but im sure there's some companies were u wont have to crunch too much

especially as engine dev

but def do some reasearch to not end up at studios that have notoriously bad crunch

like 6-7days /week kinda crunch

[teal jackal]

I don't have personal hobbies or a social life but I do just need time every day to empty my head.

That's what after work hours are for

I think game engine development will require good c++, systems, and (possibly) networks principles

I'm suspending my leetcode study since I've reached a plateau with it

[golden wagon]

leetcode wont teach u engineering anyway

if u wanna gain knowledge in solving actual problems and learning a lang then def do personal projects as u said

[ebon quiver]

how is it possible to hear back from Quant firms to begin with

[golden wagon]

depends on the firm. some are just rlyy hard to get in and require masters/phds

other's are more lenient / put more weight on testing u instead of CV

[sonic coral]

Some also just straight up require you to know someone on the inside to even be considered at all

If they’re small enough

[golden wagon]

oh yeh nepotism is huge everywhere tho

i feel like the more prestegious smth gets, the more nepotism it has lmao

[tardy geode]

i am feeling very stressed , i kinda suck at LC , economy is rough , companies have raised hiring bar , scarcity of jobs etc .

i have been having a very rough time since the past 2-3 days , worried

i don't feel like doing anything , nor i feel hungry

don't know how to cope

[sonic coral]

It’s not even like the usual nepotism it’s that these places hire people like once every few years and have less than a dozen total employees

Everyone at these old money funds is def clearing at least a million a year too

[golden wagon]

ah yeh but i dont rly wanna get into those companies

they're usually kinda toxic

[prime palm]

LOOOOOL

xdddd

[paper veldt]

Anyone know what TC is for Deployment Strategist at Palantir?

[last sleet]

hey, do you mind sharing the pay cut for working fully remote from Canada? ty!

[karmic ember]

Got rejected from another position after final interview

[karmic ember]

I am stressed too man, the economy is shit right now regardless what they say on the news

[karmic harness]

[karmic ember]

I had 7 finals and all rejected

[karmic harness]

is it better to be waitlisted or rejected

[karmic ember]

Rejected

[karmic harness]

i agree

being waitlisted rn makes me want to scream

just put me out of my misery

[teal jackal]

waitlisted

[whole roost]

Don't do it while jacked up on caffeine like I did lol

[teal jackal]

I think waitlisted is better since there's still hope

not al ot of hope

[whole roost]

Be methodical with your approach

[teal jackal]

but beats zero hope

[nocturne seal]

So nervous

[tardy geode]

waitlisted since there's a ray of hope

[teal jackal]

abt what?

[karmic harness]

me while i pray

[nocturne seal]

Waiting for Atlassian decision

[young peak]

Macroeconomic disaster babies

How's it going

[solemn tinsel]

yo Yogi

[tardy geode]

not good

[solemn tinsel]

why is Google taking over 6 months for my return offer smh

[young peak]

Because we're trying to reduce HC lmao

[young peak]

Hope something rolls around for y'all

[teal jackal]

help motivate me
i think anduril TC and tech is good
just i cant bring myself to work for palmer luckey
i need to email my recruiter

[foggy perch]

you don't want to work for this giga chad?

[teal jackal]

true

[foggy perch]

also wait lmao

I just learned

he has more cosplays

[elder hound]

I didn’t know who he was so I looked him up and his wiki page looks like he wrote it himself 😭😭😭

[teal jackal]

its not even about being a defense contractor

i just dislike palmer

[foggy perch]

just remember

money > morals and everything

[teal jackal]

facts bro

[fervent drift]

yo is there any codesignal OA open that i can take and get a good score on and use that to submit for any OAs?

i think square did that last year

[fossil jewel]

check pinned message

[fervent drift]

thank u

[fervent drift]

you my good friend are a saint

@fossil jewel so i can just take this and share with any company right?

[fossil jewel]

it seems so

since its proctored

[fervent drift]

who is Bloom institute of technology??

[lament summit]

ur asking too many questions

just take it

[fervent drift]

askin because i dont even remember applying to them lmao

[young peak]

Shhh

Just take it

[fervent drift]

🫡

one last question, can i just keep making accounts and taking that test and somehow merge my score to my main account?

[grizzled bronze]

I just searched and it's a coding bootcamp

[fervent drift]

bruh

[lament summit]

u could

but that can get u banned

[fervent drift]

oh

how does one go about merging scores

[young peak]

you don't

not that I know of anyway lmao

[paper veldt]

tyty, finished the interview cycle for SWE and they told me they think I'd be a good fit for Deployment Strategist instead so hoping TC isn't way less lmao

[ancient raft]

Ebay ghosted me, got 843

[outer radish]

did ebay even start sending out phoens tho

cause i swear i havent seen anything in the grad process channel from them

[ancient raft]

my friend finished her last interview a week ago

[outer radish]

all good they're just taking their time to get back to us

[bronze estuary]

How likely is it to get rejected after Bloomberg EM?

[karmic harness]

its thanksgiving week thats why my recruiters havent got back to me!

[bronze estuary]

Oh ok how soon do u hear back after EM?

[young peak]

Super unlikely

But this year I hear that there have been more positions filled

So it's a bit different iirc

[surreal prairie]

how likely is it getting rejected after palantir's hm interview?

[nocturne seal]

I had final a couple of weeks ago

[late kestrel]

even at the beginning of the season, there were a lot of ppl getting rejected post em

starting early oct it seemed to be like 60/40 offer/reject 🥲

[whole roost]

It's used to be a sure thing but for your own sanity, assume you won't get it lol

[surreal prairie]

😢

[azure zephyr]

this season is bullshit tbh

[echo stratus]

i agree

used to be so easy to get offers

[surreal prairie]

market correction, so ig makes sense that it's gonna be harder from now on

[echo stratus]

yup

[pure mauve]

happened at the worst time

[echo stratus]

yup

[surreal prairie]

lol fr

[azure zephyr]

i'm afraid to say its been ~easy~ bc if it were easy you wouldn't see so many cs grads searching for jobs after grad for months

[echo stratus]

well I was referring to q4 last year q1 this year

I'm sure it got harder since the summer

[azure zephyr]

i know what you mean but i still wouldn't say its ever been easy

its not easy grinding lc

[echo stratus]

ok yeah

but as long as u put in the work

u get offers

[azure zephyr]

yea for sure, this was my first season actually grinding lc and i had pretty good results

wonder how its gonna be two years from now when im grinding for the next step

[echo stratus]

I'm gonna do 1 leet a day when I'm employed

that way I'm always ready to interview

[azure zephyr]

like how do you find the motivation to start watching neetcode & grinding lc 😂😂

[azure zephyr]

*when in a full time role

[echo stratus]

when ur job offer gets rescinded like me 🫡

oh

[marsh sand]

HAI GUYS

[echo stratus]

well I think this experience changed me

[marsh sand]

Just submitted my coursework

Time to lc again

[echo stratus]

never gonna be lazy agian

[azure zephyr]

i was doing 2-3 lc a day this season and that shit drained me i cant keep that up or i will burn out 😂😂 i think ill do like 2-3 a week in my full time role and then ramp up more when im at the 1.5 yr mark

[echo stratus]

2-3 a week still pretty good

my lc this year lol

8 months no lc

[foggy perch]

really, I felt like em used to be pretty free

super early season

[echo stratus]

now I'm doing 10 a day to ramp up

[foggy perch]

I just imagine the potential dollar bills

[echo stratus]

lc of someone who found a job

[azure zephyr]

lmao i started doing leetcode july of this year 😭

[surreal prairie]

damn y'all started early, i barely started in october lol

[echo stratus]

its abt the consistency I think

[azure zephyr]

true, i want to FIRE as well so

[late kestrel]

i remember the weeks leading up to when i got an offer hella people were getting tough ems and rejects

[echo stratus]

if I had done 1 lc every day between mar - oct id have 240 more lcs

[late kestrel]

omg same literally the last 4 weeks of my internship

[azure zephyr]

nah fr LMAO

[foggy perch]

my lc is pretty reflective of my job search tbh

I think I did bloomberg FT and google Intern interviews in June

then July/August I had nothing to do

then Sept I had Roblox, Pinterest, Apple, etc. interviews

[echo stratus]

why'd u grind in sept?

I see

I see you've landed an offer then

[azure zephyr]

so real talk is it true that most of y'all aren't planning to budget?

[foggy perch]

I landed the bb offer back in june

after that was me just trying for the sake of it

[echo stratus]

$160 a year set aside for lc premium

[fossil jewel]

i plan to spend $500 per day on expensive meals wym

[late kestrel]

i already do budget and im not planning on stopping

[foggy perch]

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-mcduck-gif-6105587 real footage from hachiyuki's apartment

[azure zephyr]

"ugh how do i spend my 40k this month 🙄"

[late kestrel]

im not that strict on myself tho

[fossil jewel]

i love me good discounts too

[azure zephyr]

i asked in the full timers chat how they budget and they were all like uhhhh we dont

[fossil jewel]

too bad when we grad they'd take student discounts away

[outer radish]

bruh shoulda grinded earlier in the summer

my LC shart is looking the same but shifted WAY further than it should be

[foggy perch]

I'll budget once I job hop for the first time so I'm making actually good money

[azure zephyr]

im trying to milk that spotify/hulu combo forever

[late kestrel]

your average single new grad doesnt budget let alone a new grad making 3x the national average lol

[quasi jackal]

@azure zephyr I budget but I’m low comp compared to ppl here

[fossil jewel]

i dont get spotify for 4.99 anymore

they give you 3 verifies and i used them all

[azure zephyr]

wouldn't it make sense to budget while in the first job when youre making less money aha?

[foggy perch]

yeah I lowkey got lucky from the fact I'm graduating in Dec 2022 so I was forced to prep and apply super early

[azure zephyr]

i got a spreadsheet and everything

[foggy perch]

ig it's more like I'm planning on being able to save more once I have a high paying job

while I have an ok paying job, I'm fine with not saving as much

[outer radish]

yeah having that early fire woulda been blessed

[fossil jewel]

oh i play it by heart

[late kestrel]

ong i already adjusted my budgets to see what they would look like post grad 😭😭

[fossil jewel]

"do i want this or need this"

[azure zephyr]

looking at my post grad budget got me excited asf like wtf 😭😭😭

[foggy perch]

budget b like 99% on rent, 1% on anythign else

[outer radish]

mfw having amazon on my resume meant rolling out the red carpet

[azure zephyr]

i always thought i'd never be able to buy a house but now im like...holy shit it might be possible in a few years

[foggy perch]

where tho

[fossil jewel]

i save more having to commute further for nyc job

[proper dawn]

Alabama

[azure zephyr]

prob way over the national average for our age tho

[fossil jewel]

but my rent is pretty cheap

[foggy perch]

ok but who wants to live in alabama

might as well live in a tent at that point

[dry fossil]

Same I don’t event have an offer yet

[azure zephyr]

speaking of my imaginary money i got accepted to a corgi waitlist from a local breeder 😭

[quasi jackal]

true, budgeting was just something I already did before I got my job

[fossil jewel]

does everyone in here use doordash, i swear i use grubhub/ubereats more

[foggy perch]

wow spending the big bucks already

[azure zephyr]

my puppy will be born fall 2023 🤩

[foggy perch]

truly lifestyle creep

[quasi jackal]

Saw a corgi at train station earlier so cute

[fossil jewel]

[azure zephyr]

i actually already saved up for the puppy like a year ago

[foggy perch]

nice

clearly best dog breed is shiba inu though

[azure zephyr]

ive wanted a corgi since middle school but i always said i'd only do it if i get a good job after college as like a congrats to myself

[azure zephyr]

arent they demons to raise tho

[fossil jewel]

shibas are cute but crazy fellas

[foggy perch]

actually huh corgis look kinda similar to shibas

now that I google them

[fossil jewel]

just shorter

long

[foggy perch]

no idea, I don't plan on ever owning a pet either way though

because I don't want to clean up dog shit

or any animal shit

that's like paying money to be a janitor

[quasi jackal]

Had so much Korean food in ny last weekend

Had a Korean friend do all the talking

[foggy perch]

I'm more a rock guy

[fossil jewel]

i went to this cat cafe and one cat was very friendly

[quasi jackal]

Yea we had kbbq two days in a row

And went to a nice Korean tofu stew place

[azure zephyr]

kbbq is so good but so expensive

[foggy perch]

Smh classic ow player, getting infected by korean slang

Must be a dva main

[azure zephyr]

tf how 😭

[quasi jackal]

Yeah I think let’s meat was like $50 per person, jongro in ktown was like $450 for 6

[gilded vortex]

bruh yeah I went out to oakland, 3 people k bbq was 75 each

[azure zephyr]

the popular kbbq place near me is like $40/person ayce

not $150

[foggy perch]

ow devs just know their fanbase

[gilded vortex]

don't remember but was not worth

[azure zephyr]

i finally climbed to plat in ow2

i was stuck in bronze 5 for weeks

[fossil jewel]

there's a place in brooklyn

kpot

[quasi jackal]

Dunno if kpot in Brooklyn is better than one near Philadelphia but Philadelphia one sucks

[gilded vortex]

last time I went to kbbq with only 1 other person

idk if that;s worth

[fossil jewel]

i liked it

[gilded vortex]

we only got 2 rounds

[azure zephyr]

it mightve been bc i randomly made a huge jump from bronze -> gold and then i got to plat on the next placement

[quasi jackal]

Only problem I really have with it is only 1 grill and it was slow to cook

[fossil jewel]

ah yeah that is true

have you tried gyu kaku?

sooo good

[quasi jackal]

This place was rly good though

Yeah Japanese place right?

[fossil jewel]

yep

[quasi jackal]

Yup liked Gyu-Kaku

[fossil jewel]

probably the best meat i've had

[foggy perch]

guess you're a horrible person

should be mentally doomfist instead

[quasi jackal]

A nice place in nyc if you want meat was uhhh

Cote nyc I think

[foggy perch]

sad

bring back doomfist DPS petition

[fossil jewel]

thats $$$$

[tawdry skiff]

I don't have money

I'm poor

[teal jackal]

she asked what my favorite position is
i said "employed as a software engineer"

[rigid quail]

I usually say quant in HFT

[quasi jackal]

Just a nice place to keep in mind if you wanna take someone somewhere nice

[white moth]

does anybody have any insight on Asana's NG swe salary in Vancouver?

[quasi jackal]

I love all the worry emotes

[fossil jewel]

[nocturne oriole]

I dont lol

I’ve been asked like 27 times to add them to the server

But i think they are so ugly

[nocturne seal]

Bruh Atlassian said they won’t get my interview feedback until next week

[quasi jackal]

[quasi jackal]

[nocturne seal]

Yea I mean I get it. I’ve been sick with nerves all day tho

[quasi jackal]

Can I send a discord link here

[gilded vortex]

[robust glen]

On third Bloomberg VO. Says to schedule 3-4 hours. Is this the last one?

Says 2 rounds

[late kestrel]

what were your first two !?

[robust glen]

Yeah

[late kestrel]

you had two phones? thats annoying

yeah thatd be your last technical rounds

[robust glen]

Thank god... Im beyond done with interviewing

[late kestrel]

you still have an hr/em round but they may lump the hr with that VO

[marsh sand]

Just come to Korea lmao 50$ max for 4 plates

Do you watch Korean Englishman

They visit some of the best kbbq places

Actually 🔥 https://youtu.be/IqFTY5mQi1I

[young peak]

They're ugly asf pls never add em

[young peak]

They're such legends bro

Seeing them highschoolers grow up

Learn such a rich culture and enjoy an equally amazing variety of delicious foods

Top tier man

Makes me super happy that I'm Asian

[marsh sand]

And makes me super happy I’m a Korean living in the UK

[young peak]

Oh fuck nice then yeah this is basically 100% directed to you lmao

[marsh sand]

I wanna go play tennis with Josh; he apparently plays in the UK korean tennis club sometimes

[young peak]

I heard from a UK friend that Armand is going to Oxford

My friend just graduated there himself

[wraith seal]

Anyone getting Expedia's interviews?

Do they work over Thanksgiving week?

[marsh sand]

Oh wow i mean he was head boy after all

Is it worth mentioning in CV if you have red in codeforces

[young peak]

Anything for better stats ig but no it doesn't help all that much

[crude saffron]

holy

what a god

[teal jackal]

It comes off as having hella swag

But probably unimportant to resume reviewers

[uncut umbra]

maybe if you have an awards section?

[karmic harness]

Means ur the best

[rigid quail]

definitely for HFT or firms that target competitive programmers

most recruiters at mid sized tech companies wont even know what that is

[rain patio]

U finna get lc hard but lc hard is easy for u

[late kestrel]

most cs majors dont even know what that is

[nocturne oriole]

It means u are handsome

[young peak]

I must be drop dead gorgeous tf

[tidal mulch]

me, just sent you friend request let's compare offers

[ebon quiver]

NOOOOOO

[sinful glacier]

im right here w u brotha

[ebon quiver]

how u guys hear back from atlassian

shits too hard

[nocturne seal]

Good luck man I’m gonna dm you

[marsh sand]

Btw im not red in codeforces

I was just genuinely curious

[ebon quiver]

when does the next recruiting season start

[tardy geode]

god give me strength for the next season

[ebon quiver]

when does it start tho

[tardy geode]

jan i think

is hiring paused or somethin in december? during normal times

[karmic harness]

People say hiring is usually pretty good in February

But I don’t want to have to experience that

[white escarp]

I hope that stuff will get better after they finalize hc for next year

[echo stratus]

is palantir still hiring?

[echo stratus]

it was good this year. 5 interviews 4 offers for me

[ebon quiver]

does anyone know what remote companies are still hiring

[ebon quiver]

tf ur a god what companies

[echo stratus]

applied to like 20 companies all well known tech companies

[teal jackal]

Hot damn bro

Last year really was built diff

[echo stratus]

msft, 2x adobe, meta, palantir

didnt get palantir

[echo stratus]

fr

last year covid mode

this year recession mode

[ebon quiver]

last year was such a good time to be recruiting

i had hella offers too. if u were recruiting last year, why are u recruiting again @echo stratus

[echo stratus]

well

I was naive

[ebon quiver]

lemem guess renege

[echo stratus]

only accepted meta offer

took 6 months vaca

offer rescinded 5 days before start date

that was 2 weeks ago

[ebon quiver]

same here

imagine our luck bruh

we got rescinded and put in shitty recession

that luck is insane

[echo stratus]

ikr

I hope i've used up all the bad luck/karma

[ebon quiver]

what u got cooking now ?

[echo stratus]

bb

[ebon quiver]

oh so ur chillin

[echo stratus]

but looks like their hc is filling up fast

[ebon quiver]

do u got an offer or

[echo stratus]

nah like I only got my phone scheduled

lmao

[ebon quiver]

oh lol

yeah i hate bb

i did well on an interview and a mean lady rejected me

[echo stratus]

oh no

[ebon quiver]

i cant afford ny anyway

[echo stratus]

phone or onstie?

i really wanna go to ny so I'm betting everything on bb 💀

[ebon quiver]

onsite

can u afford ny

whats so good at about ny i mean

shit smells like ass

its cold

[echo stratus]

i like subways

[ebon quiver]

girls are all out of our league

[pure mauve]

LMFAO

[echo stratus]

i feel like i need to at least try while I'm still young

both living in nyc and girls out of my league lmao

I'm gonna be old real soon

23 already

[sonic coral]

You can leech an nyc salary while living further away

[teal jackal]

True

Same

[echo stratus]

ayo same lady???

[teal jackal]

Every girl outta my league

[ebon quiver]

bruh was she indian and soooo like annoyinh

[teal jackal]

Oh

My interviewer was ok

Just I got ghosted very long and then rejected

[echo stratus]

if i see get that lady imma just say I have internet issues

reschedule

[ebon quiver]

lmaooo

jus su know

she indian

and she wears glassses

and she mean

and then if u ask her whats ur least fav thing about bb.. she gonna tell u the elavtors

💀

[echo stratus]

looool time to read up on elevators

[ebon quiver]

i even offered a way to solve the elevator issue

i told her to use the frickin stairs

[wild igloo]

I mean I think bb is just rng now, I got a chill dude that was an alumni from my school, finished my problem a bit early and had a good discussion afterwards

[ebon quiver]

same day reject

[wild igloo]

boom rejected in <24 hrs

[ebon quiver]

🔫

[echo stratus]

BRUH

[ebon quiver]

bb is jus ass

[teal jackal]

Fuck lmao I started my interview process hella late for summer 2022 and got interviews at meta, Amazon, autodesk, Spotify, anduril, and hubspot

[echo stratus]

ayo theres no hope for me

wtf

[ebon quiver]

apply to startupts

thats what i been telling people to do

[timber rock]

I got a guy who graduated from my uni like 2 years ago

Probably was in the same place as him at oe point

I was explaining a project and he knew exactly what class it was and everything hahah

[teal jackal]

No hope for anyone at Bloomberg

Kinda too late tbh

[echo stratus]

guh

[ebon quiver]

thats why im askjing

when the fuck is the next cycle

[echo stratus]

did u get offer?

[karmic harness]

Feb

[echo stratus]

post recession 2024

[timber rock]

No

[karmic harness]

Companies get new head count in feb

[timber rock]

Got some dp shit and bombed it

[karmic harness]

Fuck a dp

[echo stratus]

word break 2

?

[ebon quiver]

fuck dipshits

[timber rock]

Nah

[karmic harness]

They give u a dp

U spit in their face

[ebon quiver]

i get diarrhea after an interview with dp

[timber rock]

It was like selecting the max sum of a list where you cannot sum adjacent elements

[echo stratus]

I'd walk out if I wasnt that desperate

[timber rock]

I just dk dp lol

[teal jackal]

LOL I had that too with an interviewer

She was from the same college as me and we talked about the projects and we all had similar projects

And then she gave me an absolutely software problem that's just detecting all instances where arr[i] > arr [i - 1]

[karmic harness]

Still

[echo stratus]

i can only do dp problems I've seen before lol

[timber rock]

Same

[foggy perch]

same

[ebon quiver]

my friend is making 550k at citadel rn

[timber rock]

I can do that one now hahah

[teal jackal]

Same

[timber rock]

Cause the guy showed me the solution out of sympathy

[echo stratus]

damn u sucks man

[teal jackal]

Tbh getting into quant takes a lot of luck too

[echo stratus]

did u interview recently? i hear they're asking harder questions now

[teal jackal]

Harder qs where

[ebon quiver]

i didnt even get a chance bruh

[timber rock]

November 1st

[karmic harness]

Have u guys ever thought we just suck?

[ebon quiver]

i didnt get a isngle interview fron quan

[foggy perch]

eh i think people who get the high band offers in quants are just skilled, since they need to get multiple quant offers to nego that up

[echo stratus]

how many hrs of sleep does he get tho

[teal jackal]

Me neither lawl

[timber rock]

Wasn't expecting much anyway. Didn't prep for bb cause I had expedia final on the same day

[foggy perch]

same

[ebon quiver]

it dont matter. its 550 fucking k

[echo stratus]

oh damn that even that late. Before layoffs

[foggy perch]

i'm hoping for better quant interview luck w/ some bb c++ experience

[old smelt]

200k and no depression > 550k with depression

[teal jackal]

Bro you're lucky you got into Bloomberg hella early, in july

You got in before Bloombergs hiring pipeline went to shit

[echo stratus]

550k if u smart. If u dumb thats 550k and 1yr shorter lifespan per year

[foggy perch]

true

[karmic harness]

Why does everyone assume quants depressed

It’s cope

[foggy perch]

so true

[rain patio]

Cope

[old smelt]

The difference between 200k and 550k is gonna have very minimal difference on your QoL

[rain patio]

Lol

No way

[teal jackal]

Nah with 550k I'm gonna buy a KICKASS fucking truck

[rain patio]

200k in Bay is really really nice

[ebon quiver]

guys if u have 550k, why would u have depression

[echo stratus]

nah thats over 150k more post tax

[ebon quiver]

u can buy a girl, buy a boo gatti

[rain patio]

550k in Chicago is super balling

[old smelt]

Ofc not depression, it's a hyperbole for 50+ hour weeks

[ebon quiver]

as as MEW GRAD

[teal jackal]

I'm buying a GMC Sierra with ALL packages, the biggest engine, full leather interior

If I had 550k

[ebon quiver]

nah not rlly

550k is fucking out of this world for a new grad no matter where u are

[teal jackal]

Ive always dreamed to own a truck

[karmic harness]

50+ hour weeks happen at faang also

[foggy perch]

nah

[fresh lagoon]

200k u still don't have to think about money just don't accidentally buy a ferrari or something lol

[timber rock]

If I had 550k I'd live like I had 200 and save the other 150k or whatever it is post tax :))

[rain patio]

As if you don't work at all at Meta or Amazon

[teal jackal]

550k is gonna easily let me afford a baller fucking pickup truck

[timber rock]

Like a smart human

[rain patio]

Especially considering on call in the weekends

[foggy perch]

with 550k you can get a really good apartment and not have to care about the spending

[echo stratus]

but with 550k u can

[teal jackal]

200k ain't enough for me to buy a pickup truck i don't actually need

[foggy perch]

saying 550k is the exact same lifestyle as 200k is cope

[rain patio]

Lol you can even with 200k tbh

[old smelt]

A lot of places you can make 200k while working less than 40 hours a week

[foggy perch]

nah I'm at like 180-200k range in nyc and I still have to strongly consider the options

if I was at 550k in nyc

[teal jackal]

This is my dream truck, I won't be able to afford this on 200k

[foggy perch]

I'd be chilling with apt search rn

[rain patio]

But quant are also all in Chicago tbh

But yeah

[foggy perch]

even more cracked

[fresh lagoon]

yeah idk i feel like when ur already making so much as a new grad time >>>> money

[karmic harness]

Get that corporate housing

[foggy perch]

if I had 550k in chicago rn

[karmic harness]

Ez as quants

[foggy perch]

I'd be a king

[old smelt]

U guys are thinking way too short term. Think about 5-10 years from now. You are gonna have a lot of money regardless of whether or not u made 500k as a new grad

[teal jackal]

I have no life anyways

[rain patio]

550k is like spending 200k and still have more savings lmao

[foggy perch]

agreed

[teal jackal]

I just want a FUCKING BALLER ASS TRUCK

[foggy perch]

I'm just saying 550k is insanely better

than 200k

[rain patio]

It's 3 times more lmao

[teal jackal]

I already know that my dream in life is to own a big truck

Big truck tiny peepee

[ebon quiver]

shit looks dumb

[karmic harness]

At 550k = a house for me and parents lol

[old smelt]

Yee but there are other factors to consider as well. How you weight those factors is up to the person

[teal jackal]

I want a goofy ahh car

[ebon quiver]

get cyber truck

[fresh lagoon]

yeah the point is it's hard to just spend 200k unless ur buying super luxury things

[rain patio]

You are all acting like you have 100M lol

[ebon quiver]

shits goofy ah fuh

[teal jackal]

Too goofy for me

[ebon quiver]

im making 20k in hcol right now soo

i dont wanna hear it from u buddy

[karmic harness]

Pog

[rain patio]

No I'm literally saying that money matters lol

[ebon quiver]

ima buy a boo gatti if i had that

[rigid quail]

bro what are you doing on discord

[ebon quiver]

oh yeah then we on the same page

[rain patio]

You can say no increase in QoL when you have a fat net worth

[ebon quiver]

i am getting motivating looking at all of yall with offers

[rain patio]

Otherwise you are just coping

[rigid quail]

wait i misunderstood i thought you’re already making 20k a month

or did you mean a year?

[rain patio]

[old smelt]

Anyway just know that we will all be successful regardless of your starting salary. This industry allows us to get promoted quick and within 5 years all of us will be senior/staff eng making more money than we need

[teal jackal]

I want a GMC truck and a Genesis sedan

That's my dream garage

[rain patio]

I wish I can get to staff

[teal jackal]

GMC truck, Genesis sedan, that shit isn't gonna pay for itself on 5 figures

[ebon quiver]

dont wanna talk about it

[rigid quail]

bro i want a chauffer with any car fuck driving myself

[rain patio]

Ngmi

[teal jackal]

This is why I need to grind

[ebon quiver]

speak for urself bud

[rigid quail]

we will all make it brody don’t sweat it

[ebon quiver]

hard enough to get myself into this damn "industry"

[rain patio]

I want to work at Twitter

[karmic harness]

I gotta get a job first to get promoted

Lol