2023_grads

[teal jackal]

Don't give up

I agree

Any chance beats none

[wheat seal]

Isn’t it team dependent

[gleaming fable]

ofc that goes for any company but you'll have pretty bad luck as far as wlb in tiktok, plus moving upwards is near impossible without speaking mandarin

[wheat seal]

True true

[rain patio]

And i simp for girls

We are not same

[wheat seal]

I keep forgetting that TikTok didn’t even IPO yet

[lament basin]

ahhhh

i cant believe im on here again

what a time to be alive

[wheat seal]

Ur quotting drake?

[lament basin]

unintentionally

[tawdry skiff]

but that's you in the pfp

[vast mica]

Could you tell, what are they exactly looking for? Like you didn't use any hints at all ? I have heard people getting 2 questions each in an interview. Did you also got 2 each?

[wicked rivet]

2 questions for each of 2 rounds for 4 total, didn't use hints

[vast mica]

Thanks, I hope you get the offer 🙂 The manager asked any system design or just resume nd behavrial ?

[wicked rivet]

my em round is tues

🤞

[vast mica]

Good Luck 🙂

[ornate cliff]

That TC is probably prior to stock tanking

[livid yew]

Although 200K offer still great

Lmao do you not usually work towards a promotion?

That's like the whole point

[misty fable]

dont think im ready for ebay OA 😔

785 on practice

[night maple]

me neither bro

y'all are getting OA's out here?

[misty fable]

this's the first one since mid sept

it's pretty dry out here in canada

assuming you don't already secure amazon or whatever

[night maple]

has anyone here interviewed for tiktok?

[misty fable]

i'll look at ziprecruiter, thanks!

do you usually browse for jobs here?

i usually look at linkedin, sometimes indeed, and this server for postings i might've missed

ohhh understood

yeah the 2023 grad github is mostly US stuff

i do occasionally see canada jobs there but there's not that many

i'll try applying to ziprecruiter, thanks!

[dusky lark]

Is it true that for Palantir you can reapply right away after Rej and they legit schedule interviews again lol

[night maple]

where you hear that from

[dusky lark]

One of my friends applied instantly again and he's on the VOs now

[night maple]

what's VO

[dusky lark]

Virtual onsites

[night maple]

ah

[dusky lark]

learning decomo

decomp*

[night maple]

for another position or just used a different email to the same position>?

[dusky lark]

Same email , Same position Same location

New Grad London SWE

I think the cool-off is measured from the first interview date so for his case it would be June, which makes it almost 6 months, He got rejection in Sept

[night maple]

is it confirmed that it's hard to move up without speaking mandarin?

[gleaming fable]

I've seen multiple Blind posts about it so I'm inclined to say yes

[night maple]

damn 😭

tiktok my #1 target rn

it's tiktok or nothin

[gleaming fable]

If you're a grinder you'll probably do pretty well there tbh and the pay is huge ofc so it's not all bad

Just pray your teams WLB is decent if you get in

[dense blaze]

If you’re on grindr

[keen zinc]

Aight

[uncut umbra]

lmao I did mine like over a month ago and I haven't received any news since

[keen zinc]

Yeah this sucks

[normal palm]

anyone know a good resume parser?

[iron lily]

i tried recently and there was a message that said there was a cooloff period

[dusky lark]

Strange, Can you explain your previous process timeline, when did you have your first interview for the prev loop

[iron lily]

rej after first vo in sept i believe

u can try with a different email i think though

[dusky lark]

You received this message on mail?

[dark acorn]

Bloomberg recruiter sent me an email on a Sunday asking for a follow up after the EM interview!

[ebon quiver]

congrats bud @dark acorn

[quartz vale]

Hi everyone, following my previous sad thread( Nuro offer got rescinded ), I'm looking for recruiter emails from any companies! I would really appreciate if you could share any recruiter emails! I could in turn help you in the future for referrals once I land my feet in the industry again

[sweet plover]

Title

[warm bolt]

Is someone going to do Palantir onsite interviews soon and want to do mock interviews together ?

[silk fiber]

Is there a discord server for Roblox NG 2023?

[snow blade]

Does anyone know how much the time complexity part matters for Karat?

I think I did terrible on that part but got 3/3 for the actual coding questions

[manic dawn]

Hey @grim ore I saw that you did palantir hm, would you mind if I dm you?

[lone rapids]

@grim ore can i dm too?

[jaunty basalt]

@grim ore can i dm too?

[tawdry skiff]

@grim ore can i dm too?

[ebon quiver]

FLEXPORT

• 107.5k (base) + 25k (bonus) + 4k RSU = in Chicago (pre neg)
• 107.5k (base) + 11k (bonus) + 4k RSU = in Chicago (pre neg)
• free lunch
• startup culture
• younger people
• liked my hiring manager and interview process
• Decent autonomy and ownership
• upside with RSU

AMAZON

• 135k (base) + 40k (bonus) + 5k (stock) = 190k in SLO (first year)
• 135k (base) + 33k (bonus) + 15,000 (stock) = 183k liquid cash in SLO (second year)
• Small team ( I am only sde in my team, others on cousin teams). Could be startup in that regard
• Hiring manager said I would treated as L5 and I can be trail blazer
• PIP culture (in general)
• AWS Security org
• higher COL area
• better weather
• better brand

lmk what yall think I'm curious

[tawdry skiff]

is zon for L5 or L4

[ebon quiver]

l4

[tawdry skiff]

so they are paying you L4 and giving you L5 workload?

[ebon quiver]

yeah that's what my manager said

[ebon quiver]

isn't that good tho cuz I can get good exp

may be easier to get to l5 either at zon or when I hop

[tawdry skiff]

nah, I think it's better for your mental health to just have L4 workload

I worked on a team that only had 2 SWEs, it was tough

[ebon quiver]

oh rlly yikes.

but u prolly got rlly good exp?

[tawdry skiff]

yeah it was alexa speech, it was bound to get good exp

[ebon quiver]

what if u are able to survive in that env

[tawdry skiff]

well, you most likely wont have oncall for a few months as the team builds out the product

I wonder, is flexport better brand name than zon?

[ebon quiver]

I have no idea. I thought not?

[tawdry skiff]

hmm, i would try to nego flexport for higher tc

if you get it around zon, it might be better

and if this is a industry hire zon, then you should be able to nego it aswell

[ebon quiver]

unfortunately this is after neg with zon

[tawdry skiff]

I tend to go for more money

[ebon quiver]

and also when u say nego flex for higher tc, u mean the base right yeah

[tawdry skiff]

Money, Location, Job is my ranking

[tawdry skiff]

whatever you can get

more base is good, but usually companies are more willing to budge on your rsu, bonus, vacation time, etc..

[ebon quiver]

ok ill see what i can do

then I'll decide after ig

[ebon quiver]

what do u say now tho

[tawdry skiff]

zon looks nice, but you mentioned that flexport had a good manager

having a good manager is important if you're thinking about having high promo velocity

[ebon quiver]

True true.

what if I did sm like somehow setting flexport start date to later next year

that way I can see how zon is and he able to leave if things go to shit

idk how id pull that off tho

[proper dawn]

what r u serious

they seem pretty slective

thought they would pay more

accept both offers

have on start after the other

[tawdry skiff]

https://reddit.com/r/overemployed

[proper dawn]

no not saying do both jobs

[ebon quiver]

lmao tf u mean

[proper dawn]

i thought flexport comp kinda low

for how many hoops they make u jump through

[ebon quiver]

cuz rsus aren't included

[ebon quiver]

I don't comprehend

[tawdry skiff]

accept both and try out zon and keep flexport

just in case zon fires your ass

[proper dawn]

like if one the companies fires/layoffs/rescinds you arent fucked

[ebon quiver]

I wanna do thus but thry gonna see in the bg check

[jolly raptor]

Is amazon new-grad role? How to get to know which team has been assigned?

[eternal hatch]

Fyi, that's 180k TC first year not 190k

Standard NG package

[echo stratus]

they wont. I did this for meta and amz

it was two different background check companies tho

[echo stratus]

@ebon quiver take this advice

[eternal hatch]

Quick question, if I'm self identify as a girl, could I select "female" in a job application?

[echo stratus]

no I meant accept both renege one later on

[sonic coral]

Usually the question asks “what gender do you identify as”

[echo stratus]

protects u from one offer being rescinded

[sonic coral]

If they ask what is your birth assigned sex tho you prob wanna be honest

[timber rock]

yes

[eternal hatch]

Yeah, depends on how they worded it

[sonic coral]

Yeah just read the wording tbh

[timber rock]

it's just as the other guy said

[eternal hatch]

Cool, hope that will give me a boost

[timber rock]

if they specifically ask for birth sex then u gotta say that, otherwise you just choose what you identify as

[sonic coral]

Just uh be honest lol

[eternal hatch]

Yeah, I agree

[sonic coral]

Make sure you actually identify as it

[eternal hatch]

Some people identify themselves differently

Not a lie

[idle plover]

I heard back in a week.

[sonic coral]

Yeah I just mean like if you do it for a boost and don’t actually identify as it and they catch you on that lie in an interview it could backfire

Obv if you’re being honest there should be no issues

[eternal hatch]

That I agree

[sonic coral]

Like they can’t outright ask gender stuff in an interview I’d imagine for discrimination reasons

But I feel like it can get dicey if you start lying in this way

[eternal hatch]

Yeah, what's up with being an Asian???

[sonic coral]

Does this include last names lol

[marsh sand]

anyone doing ML this year

I hate backprop

from the bottom of my heart

[dusty mauve]

im sorry blacksmith 😭

[timber rock]

ted blacksmith lol

[eternal hatch]

[sonic coral]

I wonder if Slavs get treated differently at all lol

[vestal pelican]

I'm interested how the study was conducted

[sonic coral]

Because I got white first name + super long ass Slavic last name

[eternal hatch]

Lol "blacksmith"

[clever orbit]

first name is mohammed rip

[eternal hatch]

Fr fr

[timber rock]

moe blacksmith

[clever orbit]

wouldn't whitesmith be better?

[timber rock]

white whitesmith mcwhiten

[echo stratus]

Does answering the gender/race/veteran survey impact your chances tho? I always answer bc I thought it doesnt impact

[vestal pelican]

Could it be because of the name change or the fact she isn't a freshman anymore?

[timber rock]

afaik its just for internal stats

[echo stratus]

I'm like the least desirable candidate demographic

should I just choose the "prefer not to answer" option?

asian/male/not vet

[teal jackal]

same tbh

[vestal pelican]

I sincerely believe this doesn't make much statistical difference

Interview process is just super rng with selection

[teal jackal]

the only place where I steadfastly refuse to answer the race question is untapped, workday/lever companies say that they dont see your race during resume screen when u answer

[vestal pelican]

U can't nit pick and read names at scale

[teal jackal]

Untapped, however, intentionally lets recruiters see race

[eternal hatch]

Better or worse?

[teal jackal]

untapped is, well, racist

the problem with untapped is that a lot of companies force u to fill out untapped

[echo stratus]

what is untapped?

[vestal pelican]

Nah it's just certain demographics can have their own pipeline

[echo stratus]

like a job board?

[vestal pelican]

And untapped makes it easier for companies to create separate pipelines

[teal jackal]

its like a Diversity portal for jobs

where they want you to fill out the race question

usually companies dont actually post there

they just ask u to apply thru greenhouse first

[echo stratus]

oh ok thats useless for my demographic

[teal jackal]

and then they send an Untapped link

[teal jackal]

same LOL im the same demographic as you

though i do have an "invisible" disability

but most companies dont have a special pipeline for neurodiversity

[thorn walrus]

what?

[echo stratus]

I have adhd but I dont think that counts

[thorn walrus]

why is it a plus for hms

[vestal pelican]

Same but some how I got into one of those freshman/sophomore programs

[foggy perch]

best strat is give companies 0 info about yourself

there's almost never a reason to assume it'll help you

[teal jackal]

i have level 2 autism disorder, pretty profound but i survive in life by the skin of my teeth

[echo stratus]

that was the golden era of tech

[thorn walrus]

@teal jackal i remember u from the google discord

[teal jackal]

though over the years through trial and error I've taught myself to socially assimilate

What? I've never been in google b4

[teal jackal]

you must be mixing people up

[thorn walrus]

oh maybe

[vestal pelican]

I say golden era was early and mid 2010s for software engineering

[tawdry skiff]

nah you can coast in zon

for 6 months

[teal jackal]

if good team, coasting at zon is ez

you can coast at amazon if and only if you get placed on a team that permits it

or idk

its just luck

i know people who just chill despite being at zon

[thorn walrus]

i feel like coasting a luxury only for senior eng

new grads should be trying to learn as much as possible early on

[vestal pelican]

Got to grind towards that

[thorn walrus]

idk is that a toxic mindset lol

[tawdry skiff]

You have the wrong mindset

[echo stratus]

what r the chances of finding one in aws?

[vestal pelican]

L5 at year 6 🙏🏾

[tawdry skiff]

Just keep coasting

Imagine, you coast 2 swe jobs

Boom 300k+ tc

Get lunch at Google

Get dinner at meta

[vestal pelican]

How do u get such high paying jobs that are remote

[tawdry skiff]

Just get it

[echo stratus]

also layoff proof

[thorn walrus]

and what do you put on your resume 🤔

[echo stratus]

whichever one is more impressive

[tawdry skiff]

The better one

[vestal pelican]

I would've accepted two jobs if one was remote Low-key cuz the timezone differences

One in PST and other in EST

But both are in person 😭

[tawdry skiff]

You can freeze it

[echo stratus]

future background check can see?

[tawdry skiff]

Then you don't work at that company

Why do you need growth?

[thorn walrus]

mouse is trolling lmao

[tawdry skiff]

If you work multiple jobs, you make the same amount /even more money

You can just do the bare min

[echo stratus]

fk faang there will be new faangs

[tawdry skiff]

Going up the ladder means you have more meetings

[thorn walrus]

what are ur predictions for new faang

[azure zephyr]

Is remote work here to stay? Like for example if I go with a remote job rn and stay somewhere that's not exactly a tech hub, am I limiting my chances for career progression down the line?

[tawdry skiff]

Get multiple 100k jobs where all you need to do is centering a div

[echo stratus]

during this recession its more like Baang

[tawdry skiff]

Compared to one 250k job where you have to do hard work

[thorn walrus]

B?

[echo stratus]

bloomberg

[vestal pelican]

Bloomberg doesn't provide services for general consumers

And that is why it doesn't with with FAANG

[echo stratus]

I hope meta burns and zuck gets his island repossessed

[tawdry skiff]

People are doing life wrong

CEOs can have multiple positions

But you can't

[thorn walrus]

its is correct

[tawdry skiff]

Explain why

[vestal pelican]

Conflict of interest?

[echo stratus]

because we are poor

[tawdry skiff]

Ding ding ding

[tawdry skiff]

Ceo has more insight than us

How is it conflict of interest on our end

[vestal pelican]

They don't work outside the company tho

They may hold multiple positions within the company as could you

[tawdry skiff]

There have been CEOs that held multiple board member positions at various companies

[vestal pelican]

I only seen cases like this when the CEO is the founder/owner

[sonic coral]

Or in backend land integration tests

So many fuckin integration tests

[vestal pelican]

So how will you guys invest/allocated your swe salaries?

[sonic coral]

Altho tbf my tl has deal with em too so they’re not immune either lol

[tawdry skiff]

Write up a white paper

[nocturne oriole]

Ok but what if somebody could

Can you not conceive of such a scenario

Going past that mental hurdle, which in itself isnt an argument for or against OE, but assuming we can get past that scenario, what’s wrong with OE

[tawdry skiff]

Idk people are indoctrinated to give 110% and climb the corpo ladder thinking it's worth it

People slowly realize that job hopping is the best way to climb up the ladder

[sonic coral]

I think that if you’re dealing with 2 FT jobs with oncall you’re really playing with fire

[tawdry skiff]

And then people where like, why the fuck uou want to climb the ladder when you can just work two entry level jobs for double the cash

[sonic coral]

the smart way to do OE is 1 FT + x contractor positions

[nocturne oriole]

Most of your arguments have been about what is humanly possible, within the parameters, of a 24 hour day, or that a CEO has a special circumstance, “they dont need 100% of the day to make decisions at one job.” Maybe that’s true for average Joe too not just a CEO

Because legally, that is the only angle worth discussing tbh. If there are legal consequences. Everything else u said is about how “you” feel you could handle the workload

And that discussion about legal consequqnces is a bit more complicated but everyone with a brain doing OE has accepted they could get fired for it

If they dont accept that risk they are dumb

[sonic coral]

I think there could potentially be legal consequences if you work at two direct competitors and/or competing products

That would be in direct violation of your non compete

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah that’s due diligence basically. This is just one of those many things in life where people can only tell you “proceed at your own risk”

But i wouldnt condemn somebody for it especially if they pull it off lol that’s goated

[tawdry skiff]

Yup it's more of the legality of it

Anyways, at the end of the day, what you want is senior pay with junior workload

[livid yew]

I don't have enough mental capacity for 2 full time jobs

[tawdry skiff]

That works

[livid yew]

Hell 2 part times jobs was a lot for me

Granted it was 7am-1pm and 3pm-10pm every day

[nocturne oriole]

I just think the weakest point in the above argument was that CEO’s have these non tangible circumstances that have nothing do with legality and everything to do with “what they are capable of” or “what is the bare minimum for their roles.” Why do they get the right to set these minimum efforts or parameters and I dont get the right?

[grizzled bronze]

Skills issue

[nocturne oriole]

The answer is they dont, it’s just a silent social contract we agree to

[grizzled bronze]

Ok but seriously though I wouldn't work 2 full-time jobs because it's a good way to burn yourself out, not many are built for it

[livid yew]

Tbh I've never actually looked into the BG check too much

Like what do they see

[grizzled bronze]

One already pays well enough

[livid yew]

Can they see my Facebook profile and stuff

[nocturne oriole]

Background checks only check the places you provide

You can legally omit a workplace

[livid yew]

Oh

Oh

Good to know

[nocturne oriole]

They check criminality + did u work there for that role

[tawdry skiff]

Yup

[livid yew]

I am someone who usually likes to provide all the info upfront, to avoid questions later

[nocturne oriole]

According to what I understand and say above, the risk doesnt exist right now. It might exist in the future, but I doubt it. They only check what you provide, except for government jobs. They check everything for those

[livid yew]

@grizzled bronze do you want me to go into detail about my misdemeanor charges

[nocturne oriole]

I’m not doubting they can check it. I know they can. I’m doubting they actually do or that they are motivated to.

[livid yew]

What is TWN?

Ah yeah most places used a different service/company

just look at my LinkedIn for that lmao

I bet @grizzled bronze got fired from somewhere

[tawdry skiff]

Got fired for dn

[grizzled bronze]

I'm taking it off my resume once I get a full-time new grad role

[livid yew]

My resume only has my 2 FT jobs

And a link to my LI for everything else

[tawdry skiff]

I need to talk to a lawyer about this more in depth

[livid yew]

[tawdry skiff]

@sonic coral can I dm?

[livid yew]

[nocturne oriole]

@cedar nebula Hey so I think it's been a good discussion, I don't think either of us can add anything we haven't already said. I would sum up your points as basically "it's not worth the risk and companies can change their mind any day to filter out OE people."

[sonic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/3d-saul-saul-goodman-adamghik-gif-23876766

[nocturne oriole]

My points were sort of about

• it's doable, but maybe not practical
• there is no reason to avoid OE, in terms of "what is doable", for CEOs vs average Joe
• the law shouldn't side with CEOs on this vs FT employees, the distinction is false
• currently, most places don't check past employers you list

The point about whether F500's do that last thing or faangs do, who does and who doesn't, I literally don't know.

[grizzled bronze]

Personally I'd say it's unethical if you're taking 2 new grad roles in this time, one already pays a lot and you're taking a spot away from others who really need it

[tawdry skiff]

True

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah that's a good ethical argument. Some people will disagree w/you but it's true

I'm talking more of a flaw in the systemic principles or reasoning.

With white collar crimes like insider trading, that sort of application of the laws is just one of many biases we've all just accepted.

Bias, favoritism, pick a term

Not all CEO's are realistically founders or fall into the category of "grinder for years to build up this company". I only mention this cuz you brought it up earlier. And even somebody who does all that should still have to comply with fair laws. They do comply with laws. I call into question if they're actually fair.

the reason why CEO's can do this is because they only need to make a few critical decisions a year that don't need 100% of their time, they are paid for that.
meanwhile you are paid for ur day to day work\

Once u've taken the risk and successed ur the boss
but u don't see andy jassy working 2 jobs
it's the same for board postions
u only need to make like 1 choice every 2 months
meanwhile SWE ur working everyday
it's just a different role

You are effectively siding w/the principles or reasoning behind the law distinguishing what CEO's ought to be able to do, vs regular FT

Most people who engage in this argument to support OE call into question the principles

[timber rock]

personally if i was working 20 hours a week i'd spend the extra 20 hours on doing fun things instead of more working

[azure zephyr]

what if i've already built up a considerable network via LinkedIn? Obviously I want it to grow but I already have some great connections at places like Netflix, Amazon, etc

I'm more worried about switching jobs. Like am I missing out on big TC if I decide to stay remote? Will most big companies still allow their employers to work remotely?

2+ years down the line

[sonic coral]

Nyc is def a who you know environment when it comes to startups tbh

It’s not quite as easy to network as the bay I think

[azure zephyr]

ive been thinking a lot about long term goals and i def wanna FIRE but idk how realistic that is in HCOL areas lmao

[tawdry skiff]

work in HCOL and retire in LCOL

[sonic coral]

Well you can def save a lot in the nyc area if you live further away from the office

Or are full remote

I feel like bay may be a different story

[foggy perch]

eh i think long commutes should in their own way be weighed with time = money

[azure zephyr]

i meant spending less on housing == saving more

[azure zephyr]

my dilemma rn is moving to seattle or not

[sonic coral]

It all depends on your commute tolerance

Depending on your office location you can get away with 30-45 min and still be relatively cheap

[foggy perch]

true

I just think extra commute time basically = extra hours worked

[sonic coral]

I mean if you have a longer commute you can make use of it by sleeping, reading books, listening to podcasts etc

Ideally you’d be hybrid and only need to come to office 1-3 times a week

Or full remote

[bright mountain]

anyone still waiting to hear back from roblox?

[foggy perch]

i feel like people mentioned them reaching hc

[nova reef]

hc’s filled about a week ago I think, all of my friends who interviewed with them after the 5th got an auto reject

[bright mountain]

i did my additional round on the first week of november

my vo was the last week of october

[nova reef]

I think u might still have a chance then

[maiden mango]

does bloomberg still have hc?

[west egret]

No one here would know

[cedar gulch]

Do you guys connect with your interviewers on LinkedIn after your interviews?

[glass egret]

Some yes some no

[slender apex]

if u get any info can u lmk kno as well, tyty!

[hasty birch]

Check in process channel, someone got an offer a couple days ago

[low scroll]

hold up places dont check past employers?

[deep wasp]

I’m in a similar situation. My offer is remote / or in office in Seattle. There’s a bunch of cities I want to live in, but I prefer working in person

[nocturne oriole]

I didn't read all context but

• yes having in person vs remote is def helpful as a new grad. Even 1x in office per week during that ramp up helps you a lot imo
• if your'e comparing nyc to seattle for example and your determining factor is COL, i wouldn't let that stop you; live where you want, you will adapt and the salary can give you a good life in either place; but it's very possible if you wanna live close to the office then in NYC you will need a roomie but in seattle you don't; I can give you very good estimates for seattle but not really nyc

As someone who has lived in both places, there are pros and cons to both tbh

[echo stratus]

can u list some pros & cons of nyc

I really wanna move there

[nocturne oriole]

Being new grad + walking distance to office = u pretty much need a roomie. This is a big con to me. Also the city has lots to do so if u touch even a bit of grass u will spend $. If u generally dont like fast paced city life, maybe that’s a con too.

Pros are like everything else lol, there are also beautiful places just 3 hr drive or so u can visit if nature is what ur looking for. Parks are gorgeous in nyc imo, and ofc plenty to do and the best food in the country (opinionated)

[echo stratus]

sounds like my dream city

[nocturne oriole]

I was just in London which i really loved and all i could think was “the closest we have in america to something like this is nyc”

Big city with activity at all hours, excellent public transport, fairly safe, amazing food, diversity

Those things

[echo stratus]

I found the mta to be really really convenient

[narrow hollow]

has anyone who did the eBay on-site/ final heard back yet about next steps or anything?

[echo stratus]

def gonna live near a subway stop when I make it there

[nocturne oriole]

I would also factor in maybe the type of people in these cities or areas. Some people genuinely wont vibe with new yorkers or east coasters etc, or they actually dislike some of those tough winters. So weather is a factor. I dont think weather should matter a lot and yes i know nyc winters are not “that” bad

[echo stratus]

I'm from toronto so nyc winters are mild for me

I actually like the ppl

idk how to explain it. The people where I'm from r so docile

[sonic coral]

East coast = kind but not nice, west coast = nice but not kind

[teal jackal]

youre canadian?

[echo stratus]

yeah

[teal jackal]

toronto people are docile?

[nocturne oriole]

Like a very random but small factor for me disliking the new england and NY area is im mexican and the mex food there is genuinely bad. Plenty of people disagree with me but never actual mexicans lol. But the rest of the food is amazing

[echo stratus]

idk just feels like everyone keeps to themselves here

no convo with strangers

[teal jackal]

Tbh in east coast cities everyone minds their own business, there's no such thing as genuinely being disliked by people in the city if you're just an ordinary person

[nocturne oriole]

There is prob nowhere in america where people keep to themselves more than PNW, from what i hear

I believe it

[echo stratus]

whenever I go to nyc I always have random convos with random ppl

[teal jackal]

I feel like that's just a modern city thing

But as someone who's asocial and extremely introverted, I woudln't hate the culture

[sonic coral]

Nah Seattle ain’t like that at all

[nocturne oriole]

In seattle u can push away people just by being in tech

A good chunk of young people

[teal jackal]

i feel like theres three types of people in seattle

• young white hippies
• tech bros
• crackheads

[echo stratus]

I wanna move to nyc before I get tied down to here. Feels like the older I get the harder it'll be to move

but job market is fucked rn

[teal jackal]

you cant be picky on location anymore

I'll move anywehre that pays me well

[wicked rivet]

what mexican spots have you been to in nyc?

[teal jackal]

tbh I get it, techbros completely conquered seattle and declared it their own city

[echo stratus]

I'm so cheesed every time I think abt it. My offer meta offer for nyc was rescinded 5 days before I start. Like I already imagined my life in nyc

kinda feels like zuck stole my life

[nocturne oriole]

I dont remember all the names but this was until 2017

[wicked rivet]

i agree that there's not a high concentration like Cali for good mex spots but there are some really good spots

[nocturne oriole]

And i had plenty friends from queens especially and bronx and we all agreed we hated the mex food

[wicked rivet]

Oxomoco is tops, Taqueria Ramirez, Tacos El Bronco, Claro, Casa Enrique

[nocturne oriole]

It’s like the worst mex food in any metro area in america maybe

[teal jackal]

I feel like mexican food in suburbs is better than mexicana food in the city

[sonic coral]

Have you been to any mex spots in Brooklyn kirb

Lots of Latino neighborhoods there

[teal jackal]

suburban mexican food is less pretentious, cheaper, and better

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah back in the day. Latinos being there isnt always what makes it good or bad, the ingredients are a thing

[echo stratus]

I went to oxomoco last weekend it was good but idk it deserves the michelin star

[wicked rivet]

Disagree but it's a matter of opinion, I think you just need to know the good spots

[nocturne oriole]

And everyone knows it tbh, they know it’s not the best ingredients

Maybe it’s changed i agree

[teal jackal]

Hole in the wall > pretentious style restaurants

[wicked rivet]

Go to Corona too, not manhattan if you're looking for the more suburban mexican

[teal jackal]

mexican food in seattle is also mid

[nocturne oriole]

But if u truly love mexican food i cannot in good conscience say go ahead and live in nyc

[teal jackal]

tbh vietnamese food is the same

[sonic coral]

100% that’s why I prefer finding cheap good food over influencer hotspots

[wicked rivet]

My dude, just because the food is fancier than a hole in wall doesn't make it worse

[teal jackal]

if the decor is just benches and folding tables, thats how you know they put all the effort into the broth and other ingredients

[nocturne oriole]

Now if we’re talking dominican food yeah that shit is fire. Everyone knows that and dominicans themselves know that

[wicked rivet]

that kind of thinking makes it hard for people or restaurant owners to branch out and serve higher end portions of their cuisine

[nocturne oriole]

That alone could make it worth it

[teal jackal]

im in the boston area, in the outer ring suburbs we have a large puerto rican and dominican presence

[sonic coral]

I had Dominican food in a sketchy ass part of fuckin Elizabeth NJ once and that shit was fire af

[wicked rivet]

The entire cuisine isn't based off cheap street food

[sonic coral]

Heard crown heights has amazing Dominican too

[wicked rivet]

I liked it a lot

maybe in my top 25

[teal jackal]

yeah thats fair, ill be more nuanced than that, but genuinely i feel like more upscale style cuisines as a whole disappoint from a price perspective

im not a fine dining guy

[wicked rivet]

the lamb barbacoa >

[teal jackal]

im letting personal bias interfere with my opinion

[sonic coral]

I agree lol

[tawdry skiff]

There is a limit to fine dining

[wicked rivet]

that's fair, but just saying that the kind of thinking and spreading that cheap food is the only good food of a cuisine is damaging and can lead people to devalue the regional dishes since it's not what they expect it to be

There's a good article on this, let me find it

[tawdry skiff]

The best food is the hole in the wall places with signs older than you

[teal jackal]

I only eat the cheap food for all cuisines

[sonic coral]

I’d argue that super expensive fine dining representing a cuisine devalues it in a way too

[nocturne oriole]

To elaborate on the mex food thing, u also have to consider where the mex immigrants are from. In nyc they’re mostly from a particular state in central mexico which has amazing cuisine. But tacos are imo not the specialty of their cuisine. They have other amazing dishes and tbh tacos are not their best

[teal jackal]

Yeah I take back my unintentional attempt to devalue fine dining from different cultures

thats fair

[tawdry skiff]

San Diego for the taco

Taco taco taco

[nocturne oriole]

But they would be forced to sell tacos more than anything because that’s what sells

If ur curious the state is Puebla and they have some of the best food but it’s not tacos

North and northwest mexico dominates tacos

[wicked rivet]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/food-drinks/why-is-our-food-called-ethnic/articleshow/71130768.cms?from=mdr here's a really good article on it

[nocturne oriole]

Because when i was in mex homes in queens or manhattan eating their specialty dishes those were GREAT. But it’s not street food

U cant make it at a truck or stand

[wicked rivet]

yeah im not attacking cheap eats either, i love both

$3 peanut noodles from shu jiao fu zhou

[nocturne oriole]

But like if some elitist cali kid comes in here and says the best mex food in nyc is still worse than the worst in san diego

I actually would agree i guess

[teal jackal]

tbh seattle reminded me of boston but worse, with cuisine

seattle food is mehtopia

[nocturne oriole]

Im sure other cultures feel that way, maybe east asian stuff in cali etc

[wicked rivet]

boston north end was so nice

[teal jackal]

I like boston a lot

[wicked rivet]

it was like if nyc little italy was actually good

and not a tourist trap

[teal jackal]

North End genuinely has a lot of really good restaurants

[wicked rivet]

Mikes pastry had one of the best cannolis i've had

Modern was also good, bova was meh

[nocturne oriole]

Or like i had cannolis in boston too yeah at Mikes and if somebody told me hey that’s the best in the country sure i can believe it

[sonic coral]

Italian food is a lot more scattered in ny now

[wicked rivet]

It's pretty scattered in manhattan and brooklyn

little italy in the bronx is decent

[nocturne oriole]

Chicken and waffles i think in harlem was amazing

[wicked rivet]

don angie is some of the best food ive had in my life

[teal jackal]

maybe i just don't like cannoli

[nocturne oriole]

And i was like yeah this shit’s good, maybe not the best in country but prob east coast?

[wicked rivet]

best in country is like

impossible to determine

[nocturne oriole]

It would have to be south Carolina or some other deep south state lol

[sonic coral]

It’s hard to find good cheap food there imo

[nocturne oriole]

True best is subjective but i think it’s ok for regions to say we have the best X

[sonic coral]

I do think the tristate area has the best bagels in the country

[teal jackal]

there's no objective best place for food at all

[wicked rivet]

yeah nyc pizza is pretty tops and they're king (new haven is also great from what ive heard, but i think it's mostly centered around 3-4 shops)

[teal jackal]

but i think its okay to say a state has the best cuisne

i was there, yes, there's nothing special about seattle

[wicked rivet]

i still think ab the bagel i got from tompkins sq

so good

[sonic coral]

Honestly the whole tristate has really good pizza since they all mostly get their water from the Hudson

[teal jackal]

tbh seattle isnt a bad city for a social life tho

[sonic coral]

I think

[wicked rivet]

is that actually a thing or a myth

ive heard similar for bagels but

[teal jackal]

oh wait i was talking about seattle food being ass

[wicked rivet]

sounds like a myth

[teal jackal]

whoops

[sonic coral]

Idk but I have heard stuff about the minerals in the water

It’s a fact the tap water is different

[nocturne oriole]

Bro the thing about the ny and new england area i guess is seeing so many random pizza shops everywhere as u drive. That should tell u all u need to know lmao

[wicked rivet]

tap water is s tier

[nocturne oriole]

That those people know their pizza

[wicked rivet]

don't need a brita

[nocturne oriole]

Social life. That’s it

But can be mitigated

[sonic coral]

Ehh I still wouldn’t trust the pipes to that level personally lol

[wicked rivet]

i'm in indiana rn and everything ever is better than it

except maybe flint

[nocturne oriole]

Oh and maybe seasonal depression but if u are naturally introverted u dont even feel it. Or if u have always been depressed

Ok the other con is lack of consisten great concerts/music. PNW not great for music imo

[teal jackal]

Really?

[wicked rivet]

seattle freeze is very real from what ive heard

[nocturne oriole]

Yes but also im from near the austin tx area and those spots will always be more popular for music and outdoor festivals and stuff because weather + many metro areas nearby or u can tour through them

[wicked rivet]

and that you kinda need a car

[sonic coral]

Coming from even Staten Island it felt slower

[nocturne oriole]

The only major metro areas in pnw are vancouver portland seattle so it’s hard for artists to go

[wicked rivet]

public transpo sucks

[nocturne oriole]

Just be outgoing and accept it’s gonna be typical yuppie/outdoorsie/tech bro activities and u will be fine. Bouldering board games hiking pottery etc

If u are not grass toucher seattle makes it like 20% worse

That’s it

[sonic coral]

Yeah Seattle is quite good if you like the outdoors

[wicked rivet]

yeah seems like seattle hobbies are mostly centered around outdoors

[sonic coral]

Seeing rainier from the city some days was pretty cool

[nocturne oriole]

U will make friends if u like outdoors trust me

There are even groups for hiking with just public transport

If u DONT like outdoors that’s when ur fucked

Trust me

[sonic coral]

Yeah I’m not much of a hiker and even I went on like 3 hikes when I interned there lmfao

[nocturne oriole]

A lot of men but the bar is low, so be yourself and good human, it will work out

That’s TLDR

dont wanna speak too much to that cuz dating convos in server always get weird

[tawdry skiff]

@nocturne oriole

[nocturne oriole]

I have seen that before LOLOLOL

My family freaked out in group chat

Except for the 50+ age ppl

They were like

[tawdry skiff]

What is it?

[nocturne oriole]

Pork rhind

But not in chunks

[tawdry skiff]

Oh

I can see why they

[nocturne oriole]

https://www.seriouseats.com/chicharron-preparado-queens-carts-corona-jackson-heights

[tawdry skiff]

Yo have you crushed up some rinds and put in taco

[wicked rivet]

chicharron is p good

[nocturne oriole]

Yes very good

[tawdry skiff]

I'm getting fat thinking about it

[livid yew]

[deep wasp]

I’m very likely moving to Seattle. I’m someone who’s always wanted to live in nyc for it’s culture and the city lifestyle and I’m wondering if I still will feel that there

[ivory stratus]

Still lots of culture in Seattle for sure but def not nyc mostly in size. It’s a cool city, lots to do

[runic glacier]

Anyone has an idea on a good/avg tc in Chicago for new grads?

[echo finch]

@shadow pecan

[deep wasp]

Im a huge nature person though and I don’t think any big city really compares to Seattle on that front, so it’s a trade off

[prime palm]

Average tc in Chicago is 400k

All those quant mfs

/s

Damn

Give me strength

Cs gods

[ivory stratus]

Yeah lots of stuff to do nature wise

[tawdry skiff]

that's not true

how is portland better than seattle other than the no sales tax

[tawdry skiff]

idts but alright

[rain patio]

Bedtime

[sonic coral]

If you’re a huge nature person you’ll prob feel right at home in seattle

[tawdry skiff]

no, stay up

play more cod

[rain patio]

[dense cloud]

got rejected from my dream company 😭

i really dont know where to go from here

none of my failed interviews were because of not being able to figure out an algo question

its like i can continue grinding lc but is there a point 😭

[ornate cliff]

Yes rejection is part of the journey... you're get gonna Google I GUARANTEE IT

❤️

[prime palm]

big ash ketchum vibes

[marsh sand]

Guys is citadel OA auto?

[hasty birch]

Yes

[teal jackal]

Rejection is often arbitrary, don't hate yourself man

I'm sorry to hear man, I've been through that shit too

[timber rock]

dont think so

if it is auto then their system is slow af

[teal jackal]

It is, I got it the minute I applied

Maybe not for uk?

No idea

[timber rock]

i got it 5 days later

yeah maybe

[digital osprey]

For ppl that graduated in December - did you have flexible start dates? Ie. Could you start anytime from Jan - may? Or was it pretty much right after you graduated?

[weak latch]

November is almost over is there any point in emailing my c1 recruiter about giving me power day 🤣

At this point I’m just gonna assume it’s closed and done

[timber rock]

[lilac locust]

[pulsar sparrow]

did anyone get a call from optum

[thorn walrus]

workday is actually horrible

i refuse to apply to any company that uses workday

now that i think about it, maybe companies use it as a filter

[late kestrel]

@west egret

[west egret]

?

[late kestrel]

[iron lily]

do it imo. these companies would rescind your offer in a heartbeat, so you shouldn't feel guilty about doing the same to them

[teal jackal]

wait youre not being ironic?

[west egret]

Damn wonder if I should actually take WD and make some "improvements" to the recruiting application

[thorn walrus]

it's hard to even get a single offer

[late kestrel]

yup time to say buh bye to bb and dedicate your life to make the website marginally better

[ornate cliff]

Eh... you're fucking someone else over who could have had an offer and it's not really that good of a hedge

[west egret]

Nah I was gonna make it worse

Reduce the competition

for next cycle

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah, leave some offers for the rest of us 🥺

[thorn walrus]

which companies have rescinded?

ive only heard nuro, meta

[teal jackal]

I think accepting 2 offers is a desperation move

[late kestrel]

has meta officially rescinded any of the 10 return offers they gave out?

[thorn walrus]

yea actually wait im not sure if meta has rescinded

[late kestrel]

new grads? or was it just the fall/winter/spring interns or whatever

[timber rock]

If you got 2 offers you earned it and can keep them if you want

No point in risking it for the sake of "not making other people feel bad"

[thorn walrus]

might be completely wrong but i feel like rescind chance is low...

layoffs when you starting working though 👀

[teal jackal]

tbh even normies are starting to renege on offers
the career world is getting crazier tbh

[timber rock]

Gotta put yourself first, if that means holding 2 offers then so be it

[teal jackal]

I get why someone would feel convinced they have to, even if I still think it's excessive

[timber rock]

I mean when it gets over 2 I think that's a bit excessive lol

Astronomically low chances of 2 rescind unless you're holding meta and ftx or some shit

In which case I will pray for you

[late kestrel]

it really is. companies rescind offers sooo rarely. maybe ill bite my words next year but it really is super uncommon

[teal jackal]

I'd only consider dual accepting offers if it was the circumstance that the company is looking shaky and is rescinding

[timber rock]

^

[teal jackal]

Reneging is fair game though

[timber rock]

I mean if your offer is like bb or something you're chilling

[teal jackal]

hell, even non tryhards are reneging

nowadays

reneging is the new normal

[timber rock]

Waiting for results from a company that i'm fully prepared to accept and renege later rn lol

[teal jackal]

My college actually got mad that people were reneging, since Northeastern is heavily reliant on building connections with small/midsized local employers

I’ve been informed that there is an uptick in students accepting co-op offers and then reneging on those offers for a different co-op opportunity. While I know the co-op team has emphasized this point, I want to reiterate that Khoury College feels very strongly about the importance of keeping your commitment to an employer for a variety of reasons:

1. Impact to Employer: The company has planned on you joining them. They need to restart the process all over again, and many times, it’s too late to find a qualified candidate. This has a major impact on their efficiency and bottom line.

2. Impact to Khoury and Northeastern’s Co-op program: If this trend continues, our co-op program is at risk. Companies will begin to not trust that Northeastern students are loyal to their commitments and seek talent elsewhere.

3. Your own Reputation: The tech community is a tight one and your paths may cross with recruiters/hiring managers again as they move around in their own careers. You do not want a reputation as unprofessional and we do not want to see this decision follow you.
   When you accept a job, whether verbally or in writing, you should no longer be searching for another job within your co-op timeframe. Here are some suggestions if a “dream” company approaches you after you’ve accepted a job:

I honestly couldn't give two shits about part 1

[timber rock]

Point 2 acting as if every other uni isn't doing it as well lol

[teal jackal]

yeah part 2 is just an open admission that Northeastern has to simp for employers to get students employed

part 3, the hiring world is bigger than they think

the hiring world forgets quickly

[late kestrel]

3rd one is funny asf. the odds you run into the same recruiter AND have them remember you is super duper low

[teal jackal]

yeah exactly, they deal with tons of people at a time. you reneging isnt their first rodeo

[vestal pelican]

Who cares what colleges say lol

[teal jackal]

I sure don't

[timber rock]

i can understand #1 if it's like a senior or lead role lol

Don't think a new grad reneging makes much of a difference

Boo hoo we have 1 less useless teammate for the next 6 months

[gritty mesa]

anyone take the Epic online assessment? how hard was it?

[teal jackal]

15 minutes

actually tbh

wait throughout the entire time block

lucid lmao

gave me a DP hard on my OA

good timeframe

[lilac locust]

question: renege GM for GEICO? because they pay over >30k more in base

[timber rock]

yes

[lilac locust]

you think GEICO can eventually get me into big tech?

[timber rock]

i mean just choose the one you prefer

idk much about gm or geico

[lilac locust]

More concerned about getting into bt

[thorn walrus]

what are geico and gm offer numbers?

[lilac locust]

big tech

[timber rock]

oh lol i just assumed since you were asking that you preferred geico

[lilac locust]

120 base vs 87 base

[timber rock]

gm is the only one ive heard stuff about and it sounds like they pay peanuts and you work on outdated shit

[thorn walrus]

locations?

[lilac locust]

Lmao I’m more concerned about using these jobs as a base into Big tech

[lilac locust]

Remote to both

[thorn walrus]

120k is really solid for remote

[lilac locust]

idk why they offered that much

[thorn walrus]

heard this too

[lilac locust]

How about geico

[thorn walrus]

don't know anything about geico but if you're not opposed to reneging i think the comp difference is worth

congrats!!

[timber rock]

nearly 50% more money just sounds like a no brainer

i dont think either of them are more prestigious enough than the other for it to make much of a difference

[thorn walrus]

prestige not paying my bills rn

[timber rock]

facts

[lilac locust]

[lilac locust]

oh renegeing is def in the Quesiton

for this much

[jaunty basalt]

Are they both rotational

[lilac locust]

Yes

[grizzled bronze]

100% Geico! That's a significant pay difference. GM isn't gonna help you any more than Geico will, experience and Leetcode is all that matters and you can build that with Geico while being paid well.

[jaunty basalt]

Go geico

Cuz vibes

[lilac locust]

you think I can jump to big tech regardless of what job I pick

[grizzled bronze]

Yes! All that matters is the experience and Leetcode for getting into big tech

[crude saffron]

gm work seems interesting

w/ ev stuff

[lilac locust]

[thorn walrus]

@lilac locust do you go to umd by chance

[lilac locust]

Yeah but not a guarantee to get on that

[lilac locust]

nope but I am from the area

Why

[thorn walrus]

just curious

[lilac locust]

Ok

[thorn walrus]

i remember you 💀

weren't you at alameda

[crude saffron]

yes

[lilac locust]

What is that

[thorn walrus]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alameda_Research

[lilac locust]

FTX

Why Bloomberg

[nocturne seal]

I followed up with eBay recruiter, offers not coming until mid-December

[teal jackal]

I got this too

[tribal moss]

for the palantir oa do you need to get 100 to pass

i got instance filter

[rain patio]

I received 2 offers for new grad:

• Citadel London (hedge fund)
• Optiver Amsterdam
  Which one should I take?

[timber rock]

i would take citadel cause london is more fun than ams

but wlb there is pretty bad

[rain patio]

How do you know that wlb is bad in Citadel London?

[timber rock]

u can look it up

my recruiter told me optiver amsterdam is like 40-50 hours for swe's but take that with a grain of salt, she is a recruiter after all

[lilac locust]

Bro I’m literally still on round 1 💀

gg

[timber rock]

what are the tc's anyway?

[wicked rivet]

what post is this on?

thanks

[vital vault]

Lol, I just applied to Infosys, HCL and Cognizant a week ago. No response yet. Have you heard back from any of the WITCH? 🤣

[tardy geode]

no mate , market is rough af

[vital vault]

Feeling desperate… I’d be very happy to get into Infosys right now… 😭

[marsh sand]

Yup I’m in UK; it was so slow lmao

[timber rock]

how did it go lol

mine was a disaster

[marsh sand]

I got it today ahahha think it’ll be a disaster for me too

[timber rock]

i wrote the most disgusting O(n^3) code i've ever seen and passed 6/13 and 4/15 cases lol

[spice rock]

lmao when is this

DO IT

worst case you get paid with ftt

[late kestrel]

how the hell are they hiring lmaoo

[livid yew]

Bro if they pay relocation to the Bahamas I'd take it

[crude saffron]

The ftx standard offer is 400-800, obviously it’s probably not nowadays rofl since a lot of the comp is equity

[sonic coral]

Aren’t they about to get fuckin liquidated lmfaooo

[livid yew]

Damn $800 almost enough to buy new iphone

[spice rock]

no they are about to evaporate from this earth

thats their exit strategy

[sonic coral]

With ~$600M in Bitcoin

Imma be honest I wouldn’t join a company in the process of being liquidated even for the memes

[teal jackal]

interviewing for the memes isnt the same as joining

[sonic coral]

Oh lol yeah interviewing for the memes is def different

[spice rock]

i mean its free practice

[sonic coral]

I’m surprised they still have recruiters lol

The founders basically took the money and ran already

[crude saffron]

Oh I should probably ask ftx hr to comp me for my flights

[timber rock]

bro is gonna bankrupt them before they can do it themselves

[crude saffron]

I bought business class to HK so it’s a nontrivial amount

[grizzled bronze]

Could be a scam email since they're not in a position to be hiring

[spice rock]

what would they be scamming for? time?

[grizzled bronze]

Everything about FTX is a scam

https://tenor.com/view/bitconnect-thats-a-scam-gif-10933451

[lilac locust]

I have GM

Role is the same

Both are rotational

[azure zephyr]

personally i think GM will be solving more complex issues than Geico

[nocturne seal]

I got offers from Wells Fargo and JPMC. 92.5k in Charlotte for WF vs 95k in Tampa for JPMC. A bit torn😬

I’m leaning Charlotte as well

[tardy geode]

[nocturne seal]

Wondering about WF vs JPMC in general as well.

I think JPMC better brand recognition?

[timber rock]

jpmc has better brand recognition but idk what WF's reputation is for tech

wells fargo

[hearty river]

Anyone else got their verbal offer from circle rescinded?

I got the TC numbers but never got the official offer letter. Today got the call from recruiter saying no offer for me.

[wind drum]

damn wonder if they were exposed to the ftx contagion

[azure zephyr]

charlotte > tampa

[hearty river]

well their official excuse for delaying the official offer letter was CTO was too busy to sign the letter o_O

now i know what is the real deal

[wind drum]

i saw someone else in the server w the same deal

[nocturne seal]

Was your Atlassian final last Friday?

[azure zephyr]

haven't had the official call yet tho

[nocturne seal]

Just email?

DMd you btw I’m nervousss

[wind drum]

fyi i got my atlassian offer from a phone call out of the blue

[west egret]

From what I heard, WF has terrible management across the organization. A friend had a bad experience with their internship this summer FWIW.

[nocturne seal]

Oof

[west egret]

JPMC is at least one of the more tech forward banks.

[nocturne seal]

Thanks for the info, got 2 weeks to make a decision😭

[wheat seal]

I’ve heard others say JPMC can be extremely slow

Like it’s team dependent

I think WF and JPMC are about equal

Like JPMC calls SDE 1 an analyst

While WF just says associate software engineer

[wheat seal]

I think they are about equal tbh

[timber rock]

i hear a lot more about jpmc

[solemn crag]

Just fked up my hive interview

Overcomplicated a matrix parsing problem

[timber rock]

never really heard of anyone at wf, i'd pick jpmc if they were in the same location tbh but theyre both banks so probably the same kinda shit

[jade ruin]

yep + 1 for circle rescind, I asked and they said they had 50 new grad spots but 25 were filled and the headcount got reduced by half from the new board meeting. the reasoning behind delaying official letter was CTO was waiting for the confirmation of board meeting of hiring reduction

[west egret]

I previously had a WF Fargo offer(intern) and they never really explicitly said I would be in a coding role which is concerning. Their role was technology analyst or something similar.

JPMC seems to have a dedicated program for software engineers.

[timber rock]

tech analyst is usually just what banks call swe's

at jpmc they call you analyst as well

[west egret]

Yeah the main problem is that the manager that I was originally assigned never explicitly said I’d be jn a coding role/

But JPMC’s internship/FT has roles for SWE.

[wheat seal]

Yea I think jpmorgan is slightly better than WF

But I think it’s team dependent

[hearty river]

thx for the info. let me cry for a moment

[wheat seal]

Wow even circle?

I’m suprised I thought circle wouldn’t be affected since it works with banks

[jade ruin]

Circle probs cuz of the FTX shenanigans lmao

but yeah hope @hearty river you had other offers 🥲

[hearty river]

No circle cannot defeat the macro econ env

And circle is affected by the crypto market since people dont buy circle to hold it, usdc is an entry point

[wheat seal]

Oh I c

[hearty river]

And circle wants to go ipo through spac at the end of the year, which is not great time

[wheat seal]

Yea it’s the worst time

I didn’t realize circle was series F

[hearty river]

but still does not feel good lol

[wheat seal]

At this point just accept every offer

I see yahoo looks promising tbh

Yahoo is owned by Verizon

And Verizon is barely affected

N yahoo is fully remote

[clever orbit]

are hive still open to apply?

[merry comet]

Circle is the only one I got verbal offer, others just stopped my interview process directly

🥲

[hearty river]

now this is gold

[wheat seal]

Was that a recruiter post?

Wow the irony

[wary birch]

Lol

[wheat seal]

They are doing layoffs now soon then probably

[gray dagger]

I'm running out of companies to apply for lmao, are there any other sources to apply other than linkedin, github repo, glassdoor and indeed?

[grizzled bronze]

Handshake (depends on your uni), mines pretty useless

[gray dagger]

I got reported to the feds 🙂

[merry comet]

Handshake is useless

[gray dagger]

I go to UCR and it’s pretty useless :))))

[reef wyvern]

anyone do ziprecruiter final and get the iOS specialization? if so can I dm

[dusky plover]

speaking of UCs

the strikes bruh

i cant take the bussin anymore

[azure zephyr]

my offer from WF explicitly said software engineer

[azure zephyr]

you DMed me?

[nocturne seal]

Yuh

[strange ore]

anybody want to shed some opinions on walmart global tech

[west egret]

Maybe it's diff for FT but I remember my internship offer just being Technology Analyst

[lilac locust]

@grizzled bronze I think I’m gonna go with GM

[grizzled bronze]

Nice, their work does sound more interesting

[late kestrel]

damn youre gonna pass up 30k? o.O

[somber oyster]

Does anyone think can I get the updates before thanks giving about final on last Friday?? lol

[whole roost]

TC kind of irrelevant at this stage of our careers imo, best to go with a better/more interesting tech stacks that'll set you up for the future

[lament summit]

probably not

[somber oyster]

ok..I should not wait then lol

[lilac locust]

What punpun said

[lilac locust]

This

[lilac locust]

Tbh I don’t wanna do insurance

[grizzled bronze]

@lilac locust you still gonna try to negotiate GM?

[lilac locust]

I already did

They said no

[late kestrel]

ok but if your plan is to move into big tech after a few years, its very hard to look past 60k... also, either way, youre probably going to be working on some internal tool

[lilac locust]

If they allowed it then It would have been an easy decision

[late kestrel]

youre not going to be directly working on their line of business

you very easily could end up on a sucky/legacy/boring team at either company

[lilac locust]

Both are rotational programs

[lilac locust]

Also GM -> big tech comes up a lot on LinkedIn vs geico

560 vs 60

For FAANG

[grizzled bronze]

Do GM one year and then rotate to Geico the other

[late kestrel]

probably because gm hires a lot more ppl in general

[lilac locust]

They’re both big companies in general

i think their software divisions are the same

Size

[late kestrel]

well at least in this discord, there are 19 recorded gm offers vs 2 geico

[lilac locust]

@unique wolf I’m coming to Detroit most likely LMAO

[lilac locust]

small sample size

[late kestrel]

thats still very significant lol

but it seems your mind is set

[lilac locust]

yeah…

[late kestrel]

i know a lot people said gm i was just tryna give another perspective

[lilac locust]

I know

The money is a lot

but I think I can jump into big tech easier

from GM over gecko

[late kestrel]

i almost guarantee itll be very similar

[lilac locust]

and then I’ll recoup the lost funds

[late kestrel]

theyre both YoE

[lilac locust]

GM has more interesting work (cruise control and stuff)

tell me what geico does

besides insurance

[late kestrel]

like i said youve made up your mind 😂

[lilac locust]

true it’s not all about money

[gray dagger]

That’s literally the least of my worries 😭 and I’m a researcher

[pulsar mural]

yo

[late kestrel]

30% is nothin to gloss over 🥺

[dusky plover]

:/

[lilac locust]

you.

[dusky plover]

WazowskiStare

[lilac locust]

ofc not but taxes also like to gloss over about as well

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah better to do something that keeps your interest, insurance would be mind numbing

[late kestrel]

youd be in the same federal tax bracket

[lilac locust]

no

90k and beyond is a diff bracket

[late kestrel]

isnt gm 90k

youd be taxed 2% more on that 30k

which is what, $600?

[lilac locust]

It’s 87

[late kestrel]

tax diff is really marginal

[lilac locust]

I calculated it

33k becomes 20k after taxes

[late kestrel]

well yes thats how taxes work when you get paid

[lilac locust]

yes but I’m good

[plush crane]

Apparently circle is rescinding some new grad offers
https://us.teamblind.com/s/ztKyMWqL

[grizzled bronze]

Sucks but not a surprise

[dapper jasper]

Took NyQuil yesterday cuz I felt sick and slept through the interview boys can i get some Fs in the chat

[stray pulsar]

Are companies having break this week?

[fresh lagoon]

at least the later part of the week

[teal jackal]

The unthinkable happened

C1 power day rescinded

[lament summit]

whattt

[teal jackal]

THats it I'm going to renege and hoard multiple offers if I need to

[lament summit]

why didnt u schedule it earlier

[teal jackal]

I had zero choice

[strange ore]

oh shit

[nocturne oriole]

I am so sorry pls consider reaching out again just say u had an emergency or a last minute situation come up

And that you are very sorry for the inconvenience

I think I missed 2 interviews similar situation and got a re try

[dapper jasper]

They actually reached out to me first to reschedule

[nocturne oriole]

[dapper jasper]

Thanks for the kind words

thank the cs gods

[strange ore]

I had this same experience this morning, I apologized over email to the interviewer and said I would withdraw and they told me they are happy to reschedule. Don't throw in the towel

[dapper jasper]

glad to hear it worked out for u too!!

[strange ore]

missed ur msg that's awesome

[wheat seal]

accept everything

[teal jackal]

I will hoard 4 if I need to

Nov 29

Mine is next week too

Check inbox

[junior scarab]

Mine is scheduled Nov 30th rip

[junior scarab]

I should’ve done this

[teal jackal]

Good luck guys

Is your recruiter's initials JS

[grizzled bronze]

What'd they say when they rescinded? Are they still letting you do it at a different date?

[errant gorge]

Draftkings making me do interview in Java 😭

[teal jackal]

No they said they reached max headcount and are cancelling all remaining interviews

[hazy ginkgo]

I just got the email too :/ Had powerday next week

[errant gorge]

My interviewer mid interview was like: I think you used Python syntax for accessing dictionary element

[teal jackal]

I'm sorry man

[grizzled bronze]

Ouch, that sucks

[fossil jewel]

really sucks, i hope you all get offers soon

[karmic ember]

Fuck man. I can't even get one internship have been applying since august

They are ghosting me hard

[stray pulsar]

Anyone know if flexport is working this week.

I got the move to offer email and then ghosted ...

[karmic ember]

I'm getting scared man

[grizzled bronze]

After January there will be more jobs

[karmic ember]

I hope so man cause this is ridiculous

Even the internship postings are falling off

[fossil jewel]

how is your resume?

[teal jackal]

Do you really think so? Tbh my best hope now is local companies

Local companies that don't post until new years

Or later

[grizzled bronze]

I don't know, but I hope so

[teal jackal]

I think dreams of a good prestigious company are over

There's no way to get in by now

[grizzled bronze]

If you can't find it, definitely ask your recruiter, they should be able to tell you that

That makes sense considering it's an Elon Musk company