2023_grads

[fossil jewel]

i say 2023 grads go to #full_timers and doom

[livid yew]

Dead this weekend. COVID booster and flu shot got me dead

[sonic coral]

I can get this for free apparently

The google lamp

[sonic coral]

Sure why not let’s switch things up

Opposite Day

[livid yew]

Looks nice

[fossil jewel]

dont think i'll take the 2nd booster, first one got me dead asf

[sonic coral]

When I move out and order one I’ll lyk how it is lol

[livid yew]

Yeah this is the updated thing

[sonic coral]

Ok when people say 2nd booster are they referring to the 2nd new booster or like the very first 2nd booster

[livid yew]

Strong

[sonic coral]

Like I’ve only had 3 boosters so far

[livid yew]

This is my 4th overall shot

2 dose primary

2 boosters

[fossil jewel]

2 shots, then that booster, then another booster

[livid yew]

Yep

[sonic coral]

Isn’t there like 5-6 boosters now or something

[fossil jewel]

any shots take a toll on me even the flu shot messes me up

[sonic coral]

I lost count ngl

[dense blaze]

Really? I haven’t had a booster since feb

Or January? Lost track of

COVID right?

[sonic coral]

I mean same lol my last booster was last year

Was the 3rd one

[tardy geode]

need prayge

[tawdry skiff]

Who?

[fossil jewel]

fr i go on fulltimers to chat not doom

[naive flint]

anyone taken tiktok oa? how is it...

[dapper jasper]

Ayo i applied to oracle in september why arent they sending me anything…😭

Honestly just reject me so i dont hold hope

[livid yew]

Send a new application

[livid yew]

[uncut umbra]

me but august

[jaunty basalt]

Dw they’ll send a reject email a year later

[uncut umbra]

I got a rejection email for an internship a month into zon

[outer radish]

when can i stop LC'ing

like fr after the nc 150 and b75 lists (since they're intertwined) what does everyone keep doing

[forest aspen]

i go over questions that i know i need help in

i review old questions

and i do kirb 350

[outer radish]

you know if its worth grinding out the dp questions on kirb 350

yeah running through that now

[livid yew]

when you get offer

[forest aspen]

a lot of companies dont really ask dp i heard

[livid yew]

DP

[forest aspen]

🥺

but id still know the patterns but im not sure i would foucs on that the most

if there are other subjects that you are a little iffy on

my metric for right now is

[livid yew]

my patterns are pretty shit tbh

[forest aspen]

if i cant look at a question with no context and figure out what it is in a few minutes then i need practice with it

not code out, but at least a direction

[livid yew]

lmao for me I usually give myself a good 5-10min to figure it out

but yeah

[forest aspen]

ya like a few mins

past two days i hit questions i couldnt solve no matter what like back to back

made me wana kms

but i guess thats good to catch now

[livid yew]

granted I have not done LC in like 3 months

prob do LC more again when I am looking for new job, like next summer

[forest aspen]

why not start now

[livid yew]

cause I am quite busy at work

dont have much time

[outer radish]

Yeah lowkey im kinda worried bout getting bit with one

[forest aspen]

it depends on where youre applying but if you remember the dp patterns then you can recognize that this is a dp problem that youre working with and get the memoizatioin solution down

and id be happy with that '

[lime current]

guys

what can I expect for DRW interview

🥺

[lapis zenith]

anyone done ramp technical yet

[prime palm]

In my DRW interview they kept asking me about G.O.B.L.I.N

So prep that

[errant gorge]

They asked me about S.L.A.W.B.U.N

[sterile relic]

did mine last week they asked me conceptual qs about the S.U.G.M.A. design pattern

[livid yew]

lmao goblin funny ahh

[errant gorge]

Imposter syndrome is a real thing. I feel you really need to find a way to stop comparing yourself to others

Like think about this

Even if you work at Jane street or something as a quant there is gonna be people that still makes more money and have more achievements than you

Try to find a way maybe stop using LinkedIn as frequent since now you’ve signed an offer as a way to stop seeing and comparing your achievements to others

[hasty burrow]

isn't this a shitpost

[rigid quail]

it is but there is a hint of truth in there

[livid yew]

INB4 they realize there's more to life than money

[tardy geode]

kalsja;lrktjaretjeriotajertpiatjaprteritja

[nocturne oriole]

Imposter syndrome is a real thing. I feel you really need to find a way to stop comparing yourself to others. Like think about this.
Even if you are the most handsome person in your sweaty CS class, there is gonna be someone more handsome in your department. Or your school. Or your team. Or your company.

And if you have a roommate you may not even be the most handsome swe in your home. Life is full of surprises.

[livid yew]

SWEs can be good looking?

[tawdry skiff]

8.81

suck it

ugly

[errant gorge]

I’m rank 1 league player in the world

[leaden oak]

i was just sitting here trying to figure out the same thing. they have to be trolling

[errant gorge]

I thought the guy was serious 😭

[leaden oak]

i cant imagine wanting to work in finance anyway. they run you into the dirt and you take more from society than you give back

[white escarp]

But but i want to be the main character in an anime

Then get all the girls

😭

[vital meteor]

[teal canopy]

are the layoffs in tech companies a bad news for the new grads

[tawdry skiff]

layoffs are bad for everyone

[teal canopy]

oh my

[runic otter]

I'm graduating december 2023, when should I start applying?

[nocturne oriole]

yes because is bad sign of recession and a recession is always bad

but good because the patient already tried to stop the bleeding, so this means the bleeding will slow down

idk why i used that analogy

and it's also a sign to you, as a prospective employee, to see how the health of the company is doing

like if google/amazon do layoffs in next few months (my personal prediction), then that just means they prob did a good job stopping the bleeding and at that point you will know headcount hopefully imrpoves

the truth is everybody's fucked tho and just get an offer

[teal canopy]

hmm yea im still seeing tons of new hires but i have no clue when the storm's gonna pass

[nocturne oriole]

2024 probably

[teal canopy]

not even 2023?

im may 2023 grad so yikes

[nocturne oriole]

i am honestly not informed on economics like interest rates etc but i hear a lot of ppl make predictions on 2023 being a full year of recession

[teal canopy]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[white escarp]

Time to do a master

[nocturne oriole]

well you can either slow down your grad (idk if i recommend this), do a masters
or just prep for a 6mo of jobless bum life

save up, move in w/parents etc

[teal canopy]

i cant spend another year being broke 🥲

[nocturne oriole]

either way dont stop grinding, from here till then

[teal canopy]

yea for sure

but im international.. idk how much time i have in the us

[white escarp]

60 days to find a job

I think

[teal canopy]

especially given that i have work authorization as a new grad

[white escarp]

U can still do unpaid tho

[nocturne oriole]

oh then yeah gotta hustle like a mf, idek what to say 😦

any company will do

[white escarp]

That will legalize ur stuff

[teal canopy]

oh rly?

[white escarp]

Ye

[teal canopy]

didnt know there was unpaid positions

[white escarp]

As long as it relates to ur major

Its ez to find unpaid lol

[teal canopy]

linkedin?

[white escarp]

U can even ask ur prof to give u a unpaid ra

But i mean unpaid should be ur last last option

[teal canopy]

yea tru

honestly id be happy with even 50k

[white escarp]

Kirb still hiring for personal janitor 👀

[teal canopy]

if i get rent money id do it lol

[white escarp]

Gl with all the immigration stuff in us lool

[dusty basin]

90

[delicate cloak]

even though my Roblox rejection email didn't cite being full as the reason, i am going to pretend that was the reason

[neon dune]

anyone from UK? advice on finding grad roles

[timber rock]

gradcracker and linkedin

[twilit wasp]

move country

the grass is greener elsewhere for now xD

[timber rock]

🙃

[neon dune]

Im in two minds between masters degree in AI/machine learning or just going for grad role

do you think masters course is worth

[timber rock]

if you want to get into machine learning and ai yeah it's good

if you just want swe then there's no point unless you literally cant get a job

[crystal steppe]

Is it to late to apply for new grad? As in everything is already filled up?

[timber rock]

No

[small mountain]

honestly i think the UK is still fairly intact compared to the states

[timber rock]

yea

[craggy apex]

anyone done an onsite with lucid software ? (the lucidchart company)

just curious if you get a math type lc question

[tardy geode]

new grad positions scarce nowadays

NEVER DOING TAKE HOME ASSESSMENTS

[glass knoll]

which company are you doing the assignment for?

[tardy geode]

fetchrewards

btw

can recommendations be generated using static data?

like you know the recommendations we see on ecomm websites/apps

[errant gorge]

Fed’s inflation target is like 2.2% we are currently at like 7 percent inflation

We ain’t done

[uncut umbra]

I think the posting is down

they're only moving people forward who are in their pipeline already

[west egret]

BB has been backlogged for a while.

[plush crane]

https://careers.bloomberg.com/job/detail/105010

Should be this one

[sonic coral]

They’re hyper rng sadly

As in the on-site

As someone who almost had to move out of ny last year best of luck lol

[tardy geode]

this

[sonic coral]

It’s prob the most competitive job market in the country outside of the bay so the current job market being ass prob doesn’t help things

[tardy geode]

the recommendations that we see on ecommerce websites like below a specific product , can they be generated using static data?

like no api , just static data

[sonic coral]

Half my college friends had to move out for their post grad jobs

[teal jackal]

wait what does this mean

[sonic coral]

I got lucky as fuck and managed to transfer in my first week since my team is based in both Texas and ny

[sonic coral]

It can be anything from easy tagged to absolutely bonkers shit you learned in algo class that you need to memorize a solution for

[teal jackal]

true, the unluckiest get something that algo class never even taught LOL

[sonic coral]

Like I had a problem that I absolutely remembered learning in advanced algorithms but fuck if I remembered the solution lmfao

[sonic coral]

Lol yeah it’s possible your curriculum might not even cover it

[teal jackal]

i would but mine ghosted me wont be of much use

[sonic coral]

Idk if they’re well receptive to cold emails if you already applied tbh

[teal jackal]

this season btw, cold emailing isnt as effective as it once was
if a recruiter replies, often theyll just tell you to get back in line and keep waiting

[sonic coral]

I think bb will get back to you if they wanna phone interview you

[teal jackal]

i tried it with atlassian and recruiter just told me to get back in line

hardest part of atlassian i heard is getting past resume screen

[uncut umbra]

just in case you haven't checked, #layoffs_support is built for people who got laid off recently. wish you all the best, sorry that this happened

[teal jackal]

laid off and rescinded mfs need all the support they can get

[dusky lark]

this recruiter who ghosted my emails is liking my tweets 🕵🏼

[tardy geode]

anyone ?

[dusky lark]

using heuristic methods , You can see how recommendation systems were built pre-machine learning

Collab filtering is what they popularly use now

You can see it's evolution

[tardy geode]

well lets say i just have a static data which is a js file containing an array of objects @dusky lark

[dusky lark]

Well then a very simple way to group them would be just using another map of similar properties and assign weights to each of the factors, then use a priorityQueue to get the ones that have the highest factors and run it for each product

[lilac locust]

prayge

For job

[livid yew]

[clever orbit]

For BB phone interview do they care about optimal run time?

[timber rock]

Yes

They don't make u run the code tho

[crystal steppe]

@tardy geode because of layoffs?

[muted girder]

is there a way to see consolidated results for the new grad !process command? or do you have to search and stuff?

[sonic coral]

Bloomberg wanted me to implement this shit lmfao

Yep I remembered learning it in algo class but I def did not remember the solution lol

[prime palm]

Sounds like a leetcode medium

Just do a DFS easy

No one is better than me at csgo

I've sent like 20 cold emails only 2 responded :/

Rough this year

Do u doubt me

[uncut umbra]

GALE SHAPELY

[chilly burrow]

R u cold emailing companies that sre hiring new grads?

[sonic coral]

Fuck named algos lmao

If your algo has a Wikipedia page you can fuck right off

[uncut umbra]

stalinsort 🤔

[prime palm]

wtf im literally global elite

[prime palm]

yeah

i mean

hc is probably capped anyways

[livid yew]

is this show even good?

everyone tells me to watch it

will add to backlog

schedule it for next weekend

[chilly burrow]

Yea it's good

8/10 imo

[livid yew]

good enough for me

[tardy geode]

??????

[shy fable]

Anybody did techical screen for Brex?

Any tips ? How to prepare ? Difficulty level ?

And anybody did final round for Aon cyber associate position ?

[ebon quiver]

how the frick did brex get back to u

lucky dog

[shy fable]

Yes they did you did their OA?

[teal jackal]

chad lol

[ebon quiver]

i didnt even get no oa

https://tenor.com/view/bruh424019499-gif-25675566

[shy fable]

I got a referral

I think that is why

[outer radish]

tryna refer me...?

[crystal steppe]

Is it because of the layoffs or it's normal?

[lament summit]

layoffs + recession + ratio

[crystal steppe]

The layoffs are temporary though. It will come back the way it used to be

[lament summit]

doubtfukl

^

if u thought the competition in cs was tough during covid

now its gonna be so much worse

[rigid quail]

literally couldn’t look 2 feet in front of them

[forest aspen]

i just got covid and have an interview in like two days

should i reschdeule? or just go through with it

its online technical

[crystal steppe]

This seems ironic as most jobs hires after covid are in CS

[fossil jewel]

companies overhired, vc's overinvested, many jumped on the cs hype train bc it seemed like a get rich quick plan

it was bound to happen

[tardy geode]

because of economy

[tardy geode]

this @crystal steppe

[past kelp]

will it get better in 3 years

first year moment

[tardy geode]

[past kelp]

[forest aspen]

we live in a society

[oak patrol]

Give it, don't delay

[past kelp]

Truly one of the moments of all time

[idle plover]

For Veeva, did anyone have a code review style interview?

[fossil jewel]

yeah like there will be a bounce

but its a matter of companies needing to recover from costs

[lament summit]

still think from now on competition is gonna go back to what it used to be

[crystal steppe]

Well some employees at FAANG that I know said that will be very soon 🤣🤣

Doubt it

[fossil jewel]

well they dont know

no one really does except for the higher ups, even they dont know for certain

[mossy ice]

Reschedule, I had the flu and they accommodated me

[eternal mortar]

is this before the team day or is happening on the team day

[snow blade]

For Palantir Karat should I just go over leetcode tagged?

The email I got said to study basically everything lmao

[teal jackal]

capitalism moment LOL

[eternal mortar]

I heard to study matrix problems, I personally got one for mine. So know your BFS / DFS

[crystal steppe]

Do I have chances If I mention that I'm a shareholder for the company that I'm applying to? LOOL

[snow blade]

Oh ok good to know ty!

[tardy geode]

na

[crystal steppe]

Not even when stakes are this high in hiring process lool?

[fossil jewel]

nope

[last summit]

this will sound mad dumb bro i cant lie

dont do that

[rustic vessel]

Bro I got 1 share of google

Let me in

[crystal steppe]

Why? I started to invest since IPO (and I have good experience regardless, it's just extra sauce)

[last summit]

why would anyone care

if you have enough shares to matter they know who you are already anyway

/ you have exec contacts who will put the fix in for you

they're hiring you to do a job, your investment is irrelevant as a signal for your ability to do that job

[fossil jewel]

wouldnt it be a conflict of interest in some way?

[crystal steppe]

Right, but at some point they do ask you why you want to work in the company. Saying that you have shares shows that you really want to work for the company and that you know about the organisation more

[crystal steppe]

That's was basically my point

[last summit]

if they ask you i guess you can briefly mention it, but front running your application with "btw I'm an investor" just sounds dry and desparate

imo, you do what you want lmao

[fossil jewel]

so if its a conflict of interest, why would they hire you?

[last summit]

its not really a conflict of interest, im sure plenty of people have owned amazon/google/whatever and gone to work there

[fossil jewel]

for sure

[last summit]

its just not really a basis to give you any preferential treatment

[crystal steppe]

During ipo? I doubt it

Like I mean the current ones that are applying

[last summit]

if ur an important investor hit up your IR guy or whoever and get it in that way

presumably you invested because you thought it was a profitable idea, and like i said using that as leverage w a recruiter (whos job is just to fill the role with the most qualified person) is tacky

[void anchor]

Yes.

[teal jackal]

i have one share in roblox now they owe me an offer

[crystal steppe]

Lool it's not as if I'm begging. I was just answering honestly to the question "Why you want to work for us"

[fossil jewel]

then be genuine, i mean there's probably a reason you got the share no?

[crystal steppe]

Yup, I stated why i believe the business models, the efficiency of the products and services of the company. How I'm always up to date with the company and at the end I can mention that I invested since ipo

[fossil jewel]

yeah then i think thats okay if your reasons are genuine

but i think even without the last part, if you believe in their products then you'd be able to convey it better than someone else

[uncut umbra]

has anyone done the airtable take home assessment yet

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[idle plover]

Its before team day
It had a code review plus LC style question at the end

[oak patrol]

What is the take home assignment they gave?

[dense seal]

i need someone to tell me bb TC please

[tardy geode]

185k i think

[wind drum]

Epic systems recruiter tryna tell me they pay 170k TC

did they increase their ng package a ton this year

or is she cappin

[errant gorge]

there is no way

[wind drum]

yeah imma link her to levels or something bc this is wild

[uncut umbra]

the most cap lmfao I was told 85k

[wind drum]

damn wtf that's crazy

i see anywhere from 100-130 for them usually

[weary flax]

wait did they already give you an offer?

or is it before getting into the process

[wind drum]

pre process

[weary flax]

yea that seems cap

[jaunty basalt]

I remember getting 130 and it says expecting that u work overtime

[uncut umbra]

lmao fuck that shit

[teal jackal]

planning on doing it tmrw

[uncut umbra]

also I didn't move forward cause examity literally fucks your privacy lmao

[teal jackal]

examity?

whats that

[jaunty basalt]

Oh their anti cheat

[teal jackal]

for what? epic systems?

[jaunty basalt]

I mean it’s better than vanguard

[uncut umbra]

yeah I mean

it's not the worst

but absolutely fuck that

[teal jackal]

epic systems is kinda ironic to me tbh
pay, prestige and tech stack arent that great, plus its mandatory RTO

[uncut umbra]

cause its privacy policy literally states that you allow it to use your data and shit

[jaunty basalt]

No I feel you, held in a phat dookey

[teal jackal]

is this also epic?

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz it looked like I had a red dot on my head

Yessir

This is LCOL too

[teal jackal]

cuz they got a sniper holding u at gunpoint

[jaunty basalt]

So it’s nuts

Bro I just wanted to take a dump

[teal jackal]

a bit too gruesome

so i unsent

bro i remember i had to shit during a ocdesignal

I committed a war crime against that toilet tbh

When I was done

[muted girder]

anybody do bb em recently? how it go?

any systems?

[gaunt shore]

my friend got 115k base, 15k relo, 50k stock vested over 5 years

[foggy perch]

vested over 5 years wtf

[minor drum]

epic systems private no?

[cosmic karma]

when u got ur rej email?

[delicate cloak]

last Friday

[cosmic karma]

thanks

[uncut umbra]

has anyone got the technical phone interview with akuna

[old vector]

Where can I find part time remote internships? Looking to do one before I grad

[hidden fable]

Is it after OA?

[cosmic karma]

btw how long did u take to get this email?

[rain patio]

I got an email from ibm inviting me to an interview scheduled for Monday and then the day after I got another email for an interview scheduled for Wednesday with the same people. Does this mean i have two interviews scheduled or was that a reschedule?

[idle plover]

Yes, after the OA

[grizzled bronze]

We can't know that, but you'll be able to find out tomorrow

[errant gorge]

The interviewer wanted you to solve the halting problem

[hidden fable]

oh okay. I heard veeva only had team day after OA

[rain patio]

💀

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/ibm-gif-22774031

[idle plover]

Yeah
I was expecting the same
Guess I will find out if I get to team day

[deep wasp]

stats:

Applied: 87
Rejected: 47
OA: 14
Phone: 1
Final: 1
Offer: 1

Am I really lucky? Or is this typical

[errant gorge]

That feels like me too 😔

[deep wasp]

@queen valve did you post that document yet that you kept postung snippets of?

and if so - where can i find link

tyty

I was assuming lol based on the namew

[wet stag]

Does Apple have dedicated new-grad postings?

[teal jackal]

Neither typical nor atypical

Congrats tho man

[deep wasp]

tyty

[dapper jasper]

Anyone know if any company hires without interviewing

Asking for a friend

[chilly burrow]

not rlly

unles u got nepotisim

[uncut umbra]

has akuna hit hc?

slash are they close

[rain patio]

I have an offer deadline of tuesday, but really need an extension before making a decision. I didn't receive my offer until late thursday, have I waited too long to ask for an extension? is it rude to ask tomorrow, a day before the offer expires?

also does anyone have any good reasons they normally include as to why they need the offer extended?

[native lantern]

python closed i think

[uncut umbra]

what about junior quant dev?

if it's closed I'm not gonna interview lol

[native lantern]

dunno

not true, 2 sig is currently doing that

i know bc i interviewed 8 weeks ago but still havent heard but my friend who works there said ng is filled but his manager is still itnerviewing ng lmao

[uncut umbra]

seatgeek interviewed my roommate at a date that was after someone else's offer letter being sent, and their offer got rescinded

so honestly idk at this point

I can't personally see the difference but ok

ye it was insane

ehhhh idk

I don't really trust companies to do things that are in the best interests of candidates

but maybe akuna is diff

[native lantern]

i was talking about 2sig in this msg, not akuna

[shy fable]

Anybody heard from google ?

[uncut umbra]

swe

yeah that makes more sense, but there's no info of when they actually hit hc

getting a trading company invite this late is kinda wack

I mean I was interested in swe mostly

but if I get a quant role I'm not complaining lmfao

[teal jackal]

Labor jobs

Contract labor work

Usually they just trust the job agent

[dapper jasper]

building CRUD applications is labor work in my book

[radiant juniper]

anyone know how long it takes to hear back from ebay after final round?

[glass egret]

Has anyone gotten Doordash offer, who is not fast track?

[cosmic karma]

is there anyone still waiting for roblox?

[nova reef]

isnt roblox done with their 2023 recruiting

friend of mine got his final onsite cancelled cuz of it

[cosmic karma]

I'm still waiting the result

I finished the VO on 11/1

[nova reef]

ohh

[cosmic karma]

hope for i can get offer from there.

no offer until now.

[coarse current]

Anybody did the additional interview round with palantir after the onsite?

[delicate cloak]

how do you prepare for palantir decomp + learning?

[uncut umbra]

don't they do this if you like fuck up either decomp or learning

[winter loom]

No they do that regardless

On-site isn’t the final

[prime palm]

Bro am I stupid

I had the Bloomberg on-site then had the HR call

But got rejected

I thought all HR calls go to EM

[marsh sand]

wtf whys BB being so picky

[uncut umbra]

standards rose dramatically lol

I have my EM in a couple of hours and I don't think they'll accept tbh

[vestal pelican]

I completely bombed my EM interview (all behavioral) at BB on Friday

But today got an email to set up a call

Does BB set up calls to reject? If this is an offer I genuinely don't believe it because I swear my EM was terrible

[teal jackal]

tbh passing interviews is RNG

[west egret]

FWIW, I bombed a sys design question and wasn’t expecting anything out of it. Then got offer. No idea how other than my behavioral hard carrying me.

[vestal pelican]

Nothing carried me in the EM lol

[west egret]

Just don’t question it lol

[clever orbit]

Is bb phone>interview>em?

[west egret]

RNG plays a big role in everything

[teal jackal]

yeah honestly with bloomberg literally anything goes

[ebon quiver]

bb is bs

like hella just

rng

[teal jackal]

they have WAY too many applicants, they dont care anymore l mao

i have no idea how this shit works

for the record, im still ghosted

[vestal pelican]

What are you asking?

[clever orbit]

hiring process lool

for bloomberg*

[vestal pelican]

Oh I thought you were asking if BB phone is greater in importance than interview lol

[late kestrel]

phone -> on site -> hr/em

[teal jackal]

does anyone know if theres any chance of still getting onsite by this point

phone 3 weeks ago

[west egret]

^ no one here will know the answer to that

[teal jackal]

true

[west egret]

Unless the company sends an email saying the position is closed out, just do your best

All you can do really

[vestal pelican]

@west egret did you negotiate with bb?

[west egret]

I had no offers in hand…so no lmao

But I didn’t expect anything even remotely close to 185k this season. So I was perfectly happy with that.

[dense seal]

whats your other offer @west egret

[west egret]

Workday

[dense seal]

wow nice have you decided which one youll go with

[west egret]

BB 100%

Pleasanton is kind of boring

[vestal pelican]

Can someone share the bb discord?

[teal jackal]

ive accepted that ill be retired and old before i ever hear back from bbg

[prime palm]

Who's this one for?

[west egret]

The person I replied to?

[uncut umbra]

p sure it was bb

[uncut umbra]

kinda praying my em is all behavioral

[vestal pelican]

Fair enough

[quick kindle]

Should I just do a PhD?

[sage sluice]

damn got rejected by bbg after what i thought was a really good VO

[fossil jewel]

same here

might apply after 6months

[sage sluice]

i graduate next month

[fossil jewel]

yeah same here

the bloomberg start date is in the summer i believe

[west egret]

@fossil jewel when does your current offer start? You had JPMC?

[fossil jewel]

feb, since i requested to work then

so i do have the safety net

[sage sluice]

are you return for jpmc?

[fossil jewel]

yeah

[sage sluice]

ok

[last belfry]

Any tips for c1 case interview

[quick kindle]

Should I do research or get a job?

[fossil jewel]

do you like research?

[neat shore]

How long does it take to hear back after BB onsite

And for my second onsite interview I only got asked once LC question. Does this mean anything?

I got asked 3 LC in the first onsite

[sage sluice]

i finished onsite last friday and got rejected today

[neat shore]

Friday the 11th ?

[quick kindle]

Yea im working on a research paper

well writing the code for a research paper for a prof

[uneven fulcrum]

How long is the HR round at Bloomberg, 1hr of 30mins?

[night magnet]

🧢?

[sage sluice]

yes

[west pagoda]

Got this too

[outer radish]

amazon just announced they're laying off 10000 people

im praying for u bro

[grizzled bronze]

According to NYTimes it is, Amazon didn't officially announce it yet

[sage sluice]

i have final interview with them today

and they confirmed it today too

but i mean theres a good chance they dont give offer or resxind anyway

[errant karma]

It is getting tough

[uncut umbra]

no bb em yet

prepared for a ghost

[teal jackal]

fuck

even amazon is laying off now

amazon hired WAY too many people

man the 1x30 really was OP

[teal jackal]

i think the format is like, you are given like a hypothetical product and its purpose

and then they talk about common complaints or problems

and then you have to find good ways to account for as many use cases as possible

thats what the info session on c1's case interview said

[last belfry]

Ok thank you 🙏

[teal jackal]

man its a scary time out there

i think amazon might actually rescind in this economy

anyways, i think someone here, jggrnt, got his meta offer rescinded right before he was about to start

tbh i hope he got severance

yeah which sucks

[slender apex]

do u think amazon will layoof majority new grad

[teal jackal]

I think theres probably a glut of SDE1s at amazon tbh, they hired SDE1s by the boatload just because they could afford it

[slender apex]

what does fat mean lol

[teal jackal]

whats the abbreviation FAT?

[slender apex]

im dumb sry

ahh ok ok

[teal jackal]

ohhhhh

[slender apex]

easy come easy go

no investment yet

and new batches keep coming in

[teal jackal]

unlike meta i think amazon actually has a good long term business plan, but they 100% both overhired

while interest was low and everyone was swimming in money

what swimming in money does to a mf

[sonic coral]

Didn’t they closedown a few warehouses too

Because they overexpanded

[teal jackal]

expansion is sustainable while money is easy to get

now the interest rate so high

[sonic coral]

Well yeah so they overexpanded lol

[uncut umbra]

sooooo it took 25 minutes?

[bleak ocean]

Why’s there like 5 rounds of interviews 🥲

[uncut umbra]

at bb?

[bleak ocean]

ye

[lament summit]

theres 5 rounds of interviews everywhere

[dusky tapir]

no

[lament summit]

no?

[teal jackal]

bloomberg does 5 rounds

1 phone, 2 onsite interviews, 2 final interviews

[dusty mauve]

fuq

needed hints on ramp interview

[teal jackal]

if it makes u feel better people fail even without hints

and solving the problem

its so random

[dusty mauve]

ok true

[bright tartan]

so few companies are hiring omg

[rigid quail]

but i go gym

@pulsar mural is my personal trainer

[shy fable]

Amazon laying off 10000 employees

Alexa and retail affected

[narrow violet]

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[whole roost]

Fuck I'm reading about people's Bloomberg interview experiences here

[wicked rivet]

yea i'm scared

[whole roost]

My initial screening is end of Jan

[wicked rivet]

phone?

[whole roost]

I scheduled it late since I've never done Leetcode lol

ya

I didn't realize the competition is so intense/their standards have been raised

But makes sense since barely anyone else hiring ng

[sonic coral]

I mean Bloomberg interview was always rng even last cycle

I guess they raised the baseline this cycle tho

[whole roost]

Oh well

Worst case I don't get the offer but atleast this kicked my ass into learning leetcode lol

[static moth]

rip my amazon homies prayin for u guys

[tardy geode]

what happened?

[crystal steppe]

10 000 layoffs

[static moth]

10k layoffs. idk if new grads were impacted tho

[tardy geode]

wtf

amazon did?

[crystal steppe]

They announced that they will

[static moth]

well seeing how meta layed off ngs it's super possible with amz too i think no?

[cobalt siren]

Any idea if they’re laying off mostly engineers or warehouse lol

[tardy geode]

[crystal steppe]

It's a dominos effect loool, many more are to come

[young peak]

Out of the 10k, it's probably only gonna be 10% of that as SWEs man

[tardy geode]

amazon layingoff = recession confirmed

[static moth]

they said "tech employees " as well iirc

[marsh sand]

anyone got palantir referral? do you go straight to interviews

i got a referral and a recruiter reached out

so i was wondering if i go straight to interview

[tardy geode]

ng return offers at risk ?

[young peak]

Generally during layoffs

[young peak]

yeah it's safe to assume most offers are at risk -- people have gone into interview purgatory iirc

[ebon quiver]

how can i find the most promising startups

is it just crunchbase and angels.co ? Any other sources ?

[crystal steppe]

You skip OA

[marsh sand]

Oh wow

that's amazing

[marsh sand]

so no Karat?

[crystal steppe]

no there is karat

OA is not crazy hard

[deep wasp]

So what are the odds companies reneg offers now that there’s potentially thousands of potentially way more qualified engineers actively looking for jobs after all these layoffs.

[rigid quail]

i don’t think companies would reneg offer to hire other engineers that sounds too costly

[wind drum]

i don't think anyone can give a number but new grads fulfill a different role from experienced engs

[rigid quail]

if they’re reneging it’s to cut costs so they won’t even rehire for that position

[rain patio]

You can't know but assume the worst

Same for every new joiner in a company that it's not expanding at the moment

[uncut umbra]

it's my coping mechanism

[whole roost]

I'd go NYC for the experience, seems like a fun place to live when young

Can always increase TC later

[smoky bone]

do you know a free crunchbase alternative. Their shit is expensive

[smoky bone]

https://topstartups.io/?investors=Founders+Fund&sort=valuation this site is not bad

[weak agate]

which company is not likely to rescind ng offer?

[foggy perch]

bloomberg

banks

defense companies

basically boomer sector companies

[iron lily]

stable companies like banks (jpmc, ms, bom, etc.)

[dusty mauve]

palantir

[foggy perch]

really

I feel like palantir is on the same level of rescind likeliness

as most big tech

[dusty mauve]

palantir has government

[iron lily]

palantir is on a hiring spree atm

[weak agate]

ahh financial companies

[foggy perch]

they have government contracts, but don't big tech companies also have government contracts?

[iron lily]

their bar for hiring is still relatively high tho

[foggy perch]

unless palantir is 100% gov contracts?

[dusty mauve]

a huge percentage of their revenue is from gotham

foundry is very little comparatively

[crystal steppe]

Not really, they're almost stacked up now

[iron lily]

mbd i did not know that

sorry for the fake news

[dusty mauve]

also startups that just received funding in 2022

[lone rapids]

No

[weak agate]

meta, google, amazon ng offers seem not that stable... espcially meta

[dusty mauve]

and did not overhire over pandemic

[lone rapids]

They have space

I talked with recruiter

[fair zinc]

.

[crystal steppe]

Depends where

[prime palm]

JANUARY WHAT THE FUCK

[serene fable]

Did meta rescind non-return new grad offers? Didn't follow it that closely

[gleaming fable]

climate startups seem to be in good shape in particular

lotta climate VC going around rn

[prime palm]

FUCKING SAME

I solved 6/6 got HR AND A REJECT

[whole roost]

I asked for a late schedule on purpose since I've never done Leetcode + taking a full course load rn

[prime palm]

WTF

[prime palm]

You're risking getting waitlisted brother Bloomberg is busting at the seams rn I stg

[whole roost]

Hmm I guess I could reschedule for a sooner day then

[sage sluice]

theyve been rejecting people a lot even with good performances

[whole roost]

Tbh idrc what job I get I just need to be able to move out my home situation isn't good (parent with mental health issues)

[weak agate]

right, and rumors about reevaluating ng offer at amazon

[prime palm]

You'll be ok bro. I hope it all works out for you

[serene fable]

Yeah, I'm worried about my own offer rn and wanted to know who's at risk

[whole roost]

Thanks bro I appreciate it

[silent turtle]

people with amz offers? are you accepting other offers as well?

[weak agate]

it seems better to accept multiple offers, but rn it's too late. techs are so cruel

[serene fable]

Don't have any offers outside of Amazon yet

Have an interview with cap one in December but not holding my breath

Maybe accept both and renege at the last minute?

[silent turtle]

you accepted both?

[dusty mauve]

@grim ore what org r u for amazon

u should be fine

should

[serene fable]

AWS doesn't look like it'll get cuts

[silent turtle]

even I have 3/4 other offers, but have accepted amz

dont know, should I is what I am thinking

[harsh ingot]

tbh that would probably be the better move

[uncut umbra]

depends on what those offers are lol

[twilit wasp]

i sure hope you are right

[uncut umbra]

banks rarely do tech layoffs tbh

they're very stable

[glossy stirrup]

Anyone do the amazon OA for new grad? What was the problem difficulty?

[willow pulsar]

easy/medium, you don't need all test cases to pass

[lilac siren]

when did u receive that

[ripe marsh]

Fastest reject EVER, I applied to X (Google Moonshot co) and got rejected 11 hours later

[ripe marsh]

LC Medium, passed with 11/15

[outer radish]

how long would you guys wait before following up after a tech screen?

[ripe marsh]

week or two
did they give you an eta?

[outer radish]

yeah they said "next week" last week

did it last week tuesday lol

lowkey thirsty ngl

[ripe marsh]

if you dont hear back tomorrow yeah i'd reach out

[uncut umbra]

should I reach out to draftkings again

did the interview two fridays ago and did well, recruiter read my email last thursday but never responded

[lament summit]

stubhub > draftkings

[uncut umbra]

draftkings stability > stubhub stability

[lament summit]

stubhubs cash is draftkings TC

[uncut umbra]

also I think if I negotiate draftkings and stubhub doesn't ipo I think draftkings tc is higher

I also don't have the actual stub offer yet so

until I get it in writing it isn't real

and tbh even after I get it in writing they can rescind

[wicked rivet]

does bloomberg ask 2d candy crush

[prime palm]

Yes

[wicked rivet]

fuck

[prime palm]

Rarely

[wicked rivet]

its just simulation right

[prime palm]

Yeah you can sim it

[wicked rivet]

doesnt seem hard just annoying >_>

[fast nexus]

does anyone know whats the cooldown period for amazon after failing the OA?

or is there anyway to reapply again with a new profile

[tacit grove]

i believe 6 months

[grizzled bronze]

Amazon is good at finding out and merging your account quickly, also Amazon has removed listings and paused hiring for new grad roles now anyway

[fast nexus]

oh I see

but i can apply to the same position after 6 months?

have anyone tried reapplying after 6 months and have gotten an OA ?

Or do they kinda just blacklist you since you didnt pass the OA the first time

[uncut umbra]

onto palantir hm round

I am absolutely not good enough for that shit lmao

[quick kindle]

I dont think anywhere is considered entirely stable

[outer radish]

ME AND MY HOMIES ALL HATE RECESSION

[slim mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/deepfried-memes-meme-gif-20611646

[outer radish]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-the-wire-clay-davis-isiah-whitlock-jr-angry-gif-17292306

[uncut umbra]

is palantir hm final round?

[winter thistle]

yea

[brave dirge]

did meta rescind return offers this year

[uncut umbra]

yep

[uncut umbra]

bless

[winter thistle]

I made it last year with a weak decomp and they tested that again, so watch out if you had any weak vo round

[uncut umbra]

yeah I had weak decomp for sureeeee

wdym by "tested that again"

[glossy stirrup]

I received the OA last week. Was a google intern this last summer. Don't go to a top school at all. Just a big state school.

[lilac siren]

👀

[strange ore]

c1 saying they would give me a decision on my final today and now it is past 5pm 😢

[lilac siren]

thank u

[sudden sequoia]

wait theyve been rescinding return offers at meta?

[uncut umbra]

jus saw smth like that on linkedin

someone who had a return offer after their last internship pre-graduation got an offer rescinded

[west egret]

Wouldn't be surprised since they just laid off ppl 1 - 3 days into their NG job

[smoky bone]

lmao i get asked the ez version where its 1d

[wicked rivet]

yea that one is just https://leetcode.com/problems/remove-all-adjacent-duplicates-in-string-ii/

unless they fk u and ask the dp soln

just finished the 2d impl to be safe @_@

[smoky bone]

bruh didnt even know this would have DP

holy thank god my interviewer was chill

[wicked rivet]

https://leetcode.com/discuss/interview-question/380650/Bloomberg-or-Phone-Screen-or-Candy-Crush-1D

look at the follow up

greedy approach is chill

dp approach is backtracking

[sudden sequoia]

so like interned this past summer and then got rescinded for their next year offer?

[uncut umbra]

yessir

[uncut umbra]

yessir

[sudden sequoia]

damn thats crazy didnt they only hire like

very few people

by return offer i mean*

[late kestrel]

99.9% sure they never ask 2d, its just people tagging it after they get the 1d version

[west egret]

the 2d one is actually a pretty cool problem

[wicked rivet]

yea 2d isnt that bad anyways, but its just very impl heavy

[stable thorn]

Anyone interviewed with Duolingo knows if they’re flexible with start dates? Especially for fall/winter graduates?

[west egret]

it's definite a longer problem than the 1d one

[maiden fable]

what is gonna happen to amazon offers?

if they are laying off 10k people

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[vestal pelican]

I am following this closely

If Amazon recinds offers there is no hope for tech

[maiden fable]

i think they literally are just following the trend

otherwise how could amazon be struggling

they are money printer

[vestal pelican]

Google is next...

[maiden fable]

they are just taking this opportunity to lay off low performers

[vestal pelican]

Then it doesn't make sense to rescinded offers

Just layoff the low performers and move on

[maiden fable]

yeah i dont think amazon would ave meta situation

[timber rock]

you're right the fate of the entire tech industry will be determined by amazon's 3% layoff

[maiden fable]

they are doing this to in fact open up space to hire more new grads, cheaper workers

[maiden fable]

r u trolling?

it's true tho!

[timber rock]

obviously lol

just found the "there is no hope for tech if amazon rescinds" funny

[nocturne oriole]

[maiden fable]

yeah i think it's just temporary, tech is growing and long term we are good. it's just a bump in the road.

[nocturne oriole]

Talkin about long term when people gonna be jobless 2 yrs after grad

[maiden fable]

long term i mean like 10-15 20

and honestly if someone is willing to work for liek 70-80k i think there are still tons of jobs

does anyone know where to add the gpa in jakes template to not mess up ats

[low scroll]

yeah think long term

[outer radish]

feels bad when the goal for 2023 was minimum 200k

[low scroll]

i added mine on right side

next to university

[outer radish]

200k robux now

[sonic sand]

What is Jake template?? 🥲

[strange ore]

latex resume template

[maiden fable]

https://www.overleaf.com/latex/templates/jakes-resume/syzfjbzwjncs

[white escarp]

I mean 70-80k ng is def above average in most of places

[maiden fable]

like this?

[fair zinc]

.

[maiden fable]

@low scroll

[low scroll]

so basically just get rid of location

move up grad date and use that space for gpa

if gpa is low, you dont need to put it on

[gleaming fable]

nah tbh in most population centers that is the average

less than that is bad pay, no sugar coating it

[thick cave]

Did anyone interview w General Motors, just had an interview w them Im surprised ab the format

Why do non FAANG companies ask random trivia questions ab CS

like half the shit can be googled on the job

[tawdry skiff]

Like brain teasers?

[thick cave]

Not really

Like brain teasers would be fine

Bc at least then it’s testing ur ability to problem solve and reason

But like language specific questions

like ab static vs non static variables

[tawdry skiff]

Yeah I remember getting asked fundamentals with BOA lmao

In the ideal world, company gives job without interview

[gaunt shore]

software engineering rotational program? I was just asked 6 behavioral STAR style questions. nothing technical at all

[outer radish]

anyone have any good resources for learning python trivia type questions

like what is a decorator or questions of that nature?

[lament summit]

https://docs.python.org/3/

[outer radish]

[lament summit]

That’s what I used to study lol

[fast marsh]

would you guys pick:
a) full-time, 108k base + 25k paper money + 5k relo in Boston at gecko robotics
b) 8-month co-op at Rivian, delaying grad from May 23 to Dec ‘23
c) 4-8 month intern at Tesla, delaying grad to Dec 23 again

im an intl student for reference^^

[teal jackal]

Tbh it's 100% average

[somber oyster]

...guys.. ASML driving me crazy 😦

[lament summit]

depends what u want

[tawdry skiff]

delaying is fine, but you can't guarantee that you will get sponsored after you delay

[lament summit]

r u happy with gecko robotics?

or do you want something faang-level

for instance i was in a similar situation

[teal jackal]

I'd say take new grad since new grad is guaranteed headcount

I wouldn't wanna be caught in the job search mess again if Tesla/rivian internshup falls thru

[lament summit]

either take a ft offer or delay grad

[tawdry skiff]

well, with what happened at meta. I wouldn't say that in confidence

[lament summit]

i chose to delay grad and it was the best decision i made

[teal jackal]

I think the guy is an int

Needs sponsorship, stability is really important

[tawdry skiff]

^

[rigid quail]

delay grad for what exactly? to search for a ng job all over again

[lament summit]

gecko robotics is a startup

[lament summit]

(better opportunities)

[rigid quail]

internships are to get ng jobs, if you already have one there’s no point

[teal jackal]

Tbh if you're very self confident that tesla/rivian will get you past tons of more resume screenings, go for it

[lament summit]

with tesla on his/her resume there will b

(probably)

[rigid quail]

rivian or tesla isn’t gonna double the guys tc especially since it’s at 140 already which is way above average

8 months fulltime experience will increase your tc more than a tesla or rivian internship

[lament summit]

hm, idk it worked out for me

[rigid quail]

it’s a different time now

[lament summit]

was given opportunity to join a 135k ft opportunity, or faang internship

i picked faang and i almost doubled my tc

[rigid quail]

270k ng offer?

no way

[lament summit]

"almost"

[teal jackal]

Luck is a big factor

[rigid quail]

yeah the economy is shitting the bed rn id say 140 is blessed

[lament summit]

that is true

but b/c i delayed my grad i took a spring and then a summer internship

so i got multiple faangs on my resume which helped me so much

[lyric cosmos]

what do u guys think about recent layoffs?

[lament summit]

i would only have 3 months of exp

[chilly burrow]

its bad

[lament summit]

not even

like 2

[lyric cosmos]

even a company where i interned last time gone through lay offs last week 🥲

[chilly burrow]

Imo Rivian aint that gr8 same with Tesla

Idk abt Gecko Robotics but I would take it over the other options imo

[chilly burrow]

Damn that's rough

Sorry to hear that

Hopefully u land smth better 😃

[lament summit]

tru

[lament summit]

this

rivian and tesla aint faang tier

[whole roost]

Yes but Tesla is musk tier

Special tier

[lament summit]

i would only do it for a great opportunity

[chilly burrow]

A special tier below F

[nocturne oriole]

F is for Friends

[tawdry skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/f-is-for-friends-who-do-stuff-together-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-best-friends-fun-song-gif-17867055

[marsh sand]

Btw did you have a lot of OSS/Lowlevel/Network stuff in your resume

Defo… I think it’s kind of a blessing that I didn’t get a return offer at this point.. I’m really sorry for those who are going through it right now 😦

[marble bronze]

but how NEET afford tendies, sauce and fries

[runic wind]

Did your hrt final have a coding thing

No like a coding test
Which they reviewed later

[crude saffron]

how long does it take to do lc hards on interviews w/ 0 lc done?

[fallen fox]

you can do trapping rain water now

thats 1 hard

[runic wind]

Ah
I guess it's v different for algo eng

[fallen fox]

but solving random hards that'll take a while

[solemn tinsel]

@queen valve how did u feel like ur duolingo final went?

[wind drum]

like the GE interns that got a return offer?

[whole roost]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-coen-brothers-joel-coen-ethan-coen-jeff-bridges-gif-14873468

[wind drum]

that's really surprising damn

like all of them?

[sage sluice]

the ones starting soon

not all of em, at least not yet

[solemn tinsel]

what was ramp interview like?

[dusty mauve]

not leetcode

[solemn tinsel]

was it API stuff?

with like request lib

[dusty mauve]

yes

[wind drum]

so like NGs that interviewed w them last cycle and/or 2022 interns that would grad in dec?

[sage sluice]

i believe so

not sure if it was everyone that meets that criteria

or a portion of them

im not following it fully cuz i never got a return offer lol

[muted bough]

did anyone got tiktok OA ?

[wind drum]

damn that's fucked

i feel like it's really dumb to get rid of GEs

no way is next new grad season gonna be harder than this lol

[teal jackal]

tbh people will probably just be used to fewer seats being available for new grads

and the fact that faangmula tier new grad jobs will be scarce

and really competitive

[wind drum]

yeah it'll def be tougher than 2021 but this year feels kinda ridiculous so far

[teal jackal]

if c/o24 is also going to be EXTREMELY cutthroat, at least c/o24 will have a year to accept that it's gonna be a MASSIVE uphill climb

the end of the tech boom hit us like a truck

[fallen fox]

does bloomberg accept new grads upto 12 months after graduating?

[teal jackal]

I wonder if companies will ever expand at such a speed ever again, and just take on so many people at once

[wind drum]

yeah super overhire into recession is like the worst possible combo

[teal jackal]

I think some companies will keep overhiring, other companies will never do it again

[dense blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/shutthefuckup-anime-anime-kiss-vanitas-sadgecry-gif-22445405

[wind drum]

where did u hear about meta rescinding ng offers btw? I have a friend who got GE + return and she's kinda freaking out rn

[chilly burrow]

linkedin

[teal jackal]

i genuinely hope im wrong btw

wrong in that i hope all companies will continue overhiring

if interest rates and growth are good again

[teal jackal]

man were so unlucky

[whole roost]

Eh that's life guys, doesn't always go as planned

Just need to temper expectations for the early years of our careers

[teal jackal]

the wild tech boom in 2020 and 2021 really fucked with us lol

[serene fable]

Do you think the job market will end up worse than pre-covid?

Worse than 2021 might not be bad if it still is at 2018 or 2019 levels

[wind drum]

hate to be that guy but https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/recession-graduates-long-lasting-effects-unlucky-draw

[serene fable]

I heard the job market wasn't too bad then

[dense blaze]

Hell yeah

Take the L

[wind drum]

at least we're in CS lol i feel like it's another degree harder for non eng ppl

[dense blaze]

Stress impact injury

[teal jackal]

ez bro just beats the odds and get a job

[dense blaze]

I.e, for running way too much too fast

Lmfao

[wind drum]

that was my strat coming into this season ngl

but im not built like that unfortunately

[teal jackal]

mood

i feel like the thing that sucks about careers and society is that the world moves on without you

the economy doesnt care that you were hit with the recession

[whole roost]

the economy laughs as we weep

[dense blaze]

Not even. I am at risk of a stress fracture

[wind drum]

companies are pretty forward looking w their hiring

[teal jackal]

I don't have any resentment towards humanity for it, but I think it just sucks that there's a lot of edge cases in life that go under the radar, and that there's not a lot of space for empathy when it comes to business decisions

[wind drum]

especially for ng

[dense blaze]

Yeah but I can focus a bit on my upper half of body

I think I have a good chest for a runner

Can do 120 lb

[wind drum]

yeah they overreact on hiring to be safe

[dense blaze]

10-12 reps

Lmao I got selected for an OA and just ghosted my recruiter

[wind drum]

google is hiring less bc they expect the economy to be worse next year bc of lagging interest rates

[dense blaze]

That’s pretty much every company

[wind drum]

we are already in one for new grads lol

[teal jackal]

Are we gonna catch up in the long run, or is the recession going to be a permanent hit on our career growth?
Who knows tbh

But I feel like the world moves on without you

I genuinely think an american lost decade is possible in our lifetime

hopium

[wind drum]

eh i mean the entire world is suffering the same problems

[teal jackal]

I genuinely think c/o23 will have a better work ethic than years which inherited a good economy

we're in it together lads

let's outearn c/o21 grads long run

[grizzled bronze]

No, keep checking your status portal