2023_grads

[lament summit]

tbh u couldve used bb to nego oracle, then oracle to bb

thats what i wouldve done

even if its lower

[west egret]

I already signed though

If only Oracle contacted me 2 weeks ago

I could have tried to expedite the interview process

[lament summit]

yeah im just saying hypothetically

[west egret]

yeah true

[lament summit]

plus oracles process is p easy

[west egret]

@azure zephyr who are you going with btw? Last I saw you had like 3+ offers

[lilac siren]

which org of oracle?

[azure zephyr]

i'm waiting to wrap up the atlassian process first but leaning expedia

[west egret]

Would you go for Atlassian if you get it?

[azure zephyr]

yessirr

[lament summit]

dont u have amazon

[azure zephyr]

congrats on bloomberg btw

already reneged on amazon

[lament summit]

damn

u would pick expedia over amazon?

interesting

[west egret]

Recruiter's email just said Oracle nothing about OCI

[west egret]

Thanks!

[azure zephyr]

i had a recruiter for oracle reach out to me like two months ago and then completely ghost me smh

[lilac siren]

i will have an oracle recruiter call this afternoon

but she didnt mention her org

[azure zephyr]

is oracle purely in person or do they have remote opportunities

[west egret]

Someone at my school did fully remote for the past two summers as an intern

Don't know about NG though

[grizzled bronze]

They did you a favor tbh, recently had layoffs there

[azure zephyr]

who hasn't had layoffs at this point tbh 😭

[late kestrel]

just the security deposit + first months rent + potential for brokers fee is gonna eat into that so fast

[west egret]

I didn't really consider that because I had savings tbh

[cobalt siren]

bruh relocating to nyc seems like such a nightmare

[west egret]

I think finding an apartment seems like the biggest hassle

[azure zephyr]

i have a recruiter call with hudl later today, does anybody know their salary range for new grad?

[west egret]

I slept on a mattress on the floor this summer and didn't even have a couch lmao

I might want an upgrade for a long term place though

I've driven from FL to TX

Slept in my car in a Walmart parking lot along the way

[lament summit]

who says u need bed frame and night stand

just put mattress on floor

floor is ur night stand

[cobalt siren]

ah that's what im gonna do for relocation

@spice fiber did you have a car?

or did you do uhaul

[lament summit]

but u didnt hate it either

[west egret]

Is that assuming what you'd spend alone? Or total? Because that'd be split up if you had roommates for the common area expenses.

[cobalt siren]

haha i did the drive from nj to oh for school, wasn't the worst

did you sell it after or something? Can't imagine having a car in nyc

[lament summit]

damn

how much is ur rent

[jaunty basalt]

Ok you made it sound like daily commute

[lament summit]

oh

ur chillin

[west egret]

Honestly sleeping on a mattress on the floor isn't bad

Sleeping on the floor with no mattress is not fun

[cobalt siren]

8 hours drive a day isn't bad!!1

[west egret]

I did that one night

[cobalt siren]

ah i see, unfortunately my family moved from nj to california so i think I gotta sell it or something lol

[west egret]

That's a big upside of NYC

not having to maintain a car

with gas + insurance + parking expenses

What are londoners?

[jaunty basalt]

The ends

[lament summit]

just hop on a private heli

duh

[west egret]

So don't take metro too late is what I'm hearing

[knotty talon]

Ive taken the subway at like 3 am and fallen asleep on it and been fine multiple times 😅 not saying you should do that but you’ll mostly be fine is what I mean

[deep wasp]

Some websites say to send a follow up email a few days after final interview while waiting to hear back. Dumb idea for SWE jobs or no?

[rain patio]

Hows everyone's day goin?

[knotty talon]

I dont think it makes any difference

[rigid quail]

99% of the time it won’t matter

but it’s a nice gesture

[indigo raft]

New palantir level unlocked! 🫠

[split plaza]

What the fuck

[static moth]

ya im terrified lowkey lmao

next year issue

[prime palm]

How come homie

[tardy geode]

can someone tell me the time and space complexity for this?

[errant karma]

NYC gang

[static moth]

lived in canada all my life

new city, new country

[nocturne seal]

Atlassian phone in 10 mins😬

[uneven fulcrum]

What position is this interview for?

[errant karma]

o(n^2)

[indigo raft]

lol general swe I got this after VO. I did say I had internship experience in full stack/frontend though

[tardy geode]

ty and SC?

[errant gorge]

space and runtime are both O(n x m) where n is num of rows and m is num of cols of board

[tardy geode]

oh ok

[tardy geode]

for level order traversal BST , like the basic its TC is O(N)?

[errant karma]

this is the right answer ignore mine

[errant karma]

YOU GOT THIS!!

[errant gorge]

yea where n number of nodes in tree

[prime palm]

Yeee but u got the dawgs in nyc (me)

[tardy geode]

got a phone interview in half an hour , i am feeling nervous . first for the rough season

[errant karma]

I got a job without knowing anything about trees or graphs

[tardy geode]

What are some good questions to ask at the end of an interview

[static moth]

ofccccc

and our lord nedflanders

[lament summit]

“What are some good questions to ask at the end of an interview”

[tardy geode]

i have one that i always ask " whats your day like at X company"

[lament summit]

But in all seriousness I ask them about their daily work, wlb, how has the company changed over the years

how’s the career growth

[tardy geode]

i am so nervous man

[rain patio]

@tardy geode good luck!

[tardy geode]

ty

[azure zephyr]

ehh my boyfriend's bed frame broke last week and its annoying asf sleeping on a mattress on the floor tbh

[rain patio]

My interview was over python and data science and ML and AI and rn I'm doing full stack development 💀

[azure zephyr]

also youre making too much money at bloomberg to not have a bed frame 😂😂 there's some good cheap ones on amazon

[zinc bear]

meta layoffs so spooky

[west egret]

Yeah I'd get one for NYC. I just didn't bother for my summer internship because it was 3 months

And I didn't really mind it

[azure zephyr]

yeah that makes sense

i'm not planning on balling out on furniture but i'm def not gonna cheap out either. i'm planning on putting a lot of emphasis into my office area and making sure its at comfortable as possible

[tardy geode]

phone interview in 15 mins , need prayge boost peeps

[sonic coral]

Where’s that /r/malelivingspace post of the lone mattress with a monitor near it for some sf apartment

[azure zephyr]

lmaooo i've seen so many memes like that

"software engineer who makes 250k a year" and its just a mattress on the floor LMAO

[uneven fulcrum]

Ah that’s cool

[errant karma]

just the peace of mind of not worrying about too much. Plus you spend so much time at the office

for internship that is. For Fulltime there is no excuse

[west egret]

Basically this for internship

Having to move out furniture and sell it after 3 months is too much of a hassle

[errant karma]

I agree

[west egret]

I literally didn’t have furniture in the living room for 3 months. My roommates used a cardboard box from our desk chairs as a dining table.

[sonic coral]

The sad thing is some might actually be serious lmao

[lament summit]

[sonic coral]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/uis4bb/tech_bros_be_earning_200k_a_year_in_cash_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[uncut umbra]

damn that's rough, I hopped on a lease in boston for 1650 a month and got so much furniture lol

[west egret]

I ate my meals standing lmao

[west egret]

Mine was about 1700/month but that's Cali for you

[late kestrel]

hmmm it just "broke" huh

[azure zephyr]

so weird right

[late kestrel]

quite odd

[west egret]

can't believe how structurally unstable bed frames are these days

[uncut umbra]

reminds me of that key and peele sketch of the guy in a mattress store practicing aggressive fucking

[wind drum]

bloomberg gave me a dp hard on the phone

very cool

[ebon quiver]

same

[azure zephyr]

are you actually already planning? 🤔 what are you using for inspo

[jaunty basalt]

From my setup

[vestal pelican]

Looks like a headache

[grizzled bronze]

So much pink

[lament summit]

u should use pinterest for inspo

idk what ur talking about

[azure zephyr]

lmaooo im trying to figure out if its worth getting those nano lights 😭 theyre so cool

[ebon quiver]

this is hot

everything just hot

[elder narwhal]

Is leetcode enough for JS? 💀

[lament summit]

probs not

leetcode + sys design + ostep

probably

[elder narwhal]

ostep?

[azure zephyr]

are you finally done interviewing since you have hrt

[knotty talon]

💯

[lament summit]

frfr

[west egret]

Are you in need of BB terminal by any chance?

[knotty talon]

I sure love using Pinterest for all my Pinspiration

[lament summit]

cant say that i am

[lament summit]

I am not pinterested

[knotty talon]

The bbg terminal is mad expensive too

I can get pinspired for free 🙏

[lament summit]

frfr

[west egret]

Pinterest costs you your time

BB terminal gives you real time information to save you time

[azure zephyr]

finally damn 😭 gg

[dusty mauve]

lmao

i just completely missed an interview cuz i slept in

[split plaza]

Rip

[dusty mauve]

and then i rescheduled 2 couple hours later and passed it

[split plaza]

What company

[dusty mauve]

RAMP LOL

[split plaza]

oh shit

[dusty mauve]

it was just recruiter scren tho

[split plaza]

How many flags did you get

[dusty mauve]

4

if it was a technical i porabbly would've been blacklisted

[split plaza]

How many days between applying and hearing back

I think you’re the only person in the server so far to hear back from Ramp for NG lol

[dusty mauve]

applied 9/22

response 11/01

phone 11/07

i actually got in the process for intern

and asked to be switched to ng and they let me

[split plaza]

ohhh I see

[dusty mauve]

and funny thing is

couple days later after the response i got rejectd from new grad

by their system or whatever

[split plaza]

damn

[bright tartan]

is 100k out of college good for CS

[wind drum]

good relative to what

[dusty mauve]

depends who u ask and where u live

[bright tartan]

Atlanta

just got one offer, but heard an earful from my uncle that its shit for someone from a T5 CS school😭

[knotty talon]

Can I dm you about the HRT process? Mostly curious

[nocturne seal]

I think I killed the Atlassian phone screen😁

But we’ll see

[late kestrel]

100k in atl is pretty damn solid

[lone rapids]

should I do palantir VO on 9 Nov or 1 Dec? I don't want them to fill

[lament summit]

9 nov

[lone rapids]

I'm torn on prep time. For some time I have been prepping for system design but more would be nicer

[wind drum]

honestly the system design portion isn't really that hard if you've had any experience doing it before

[surreal prairie]

which location is this for?

[lone rapids]

DC

[lone rapids]

Haven't really done it tbh

[steel estuary]

Did anybody receive ebay vo wl?

What is the vo waiting list lol, does that mean no headcounts?

[dusty mauve]

is the learning portion harder thahn sys des or other way around?

im more concerned about learning cuz i have no way to prepare for that

[azure zephyr]

100k is great from atlanta (i grew up there and anything above 70k out of college is awesome there)

[surreal prairie]

wondering the same

[dusty mauve]

also i heard they ask concurrency stuff for learning which once again i have no experince with

[night magnet]

From a T5 it’s probably like 30th percentile

Which sounds bad but that’s only bc you’re at a T5

[vestal pelican]

what would u guess 220k to be for T5?

[night magnet]

Probably like 90+

You can look at these numbers urself too

[vestal pelican]

source?

[night magnet]

Lemme send the carnegie salary doc

[vestal pelican]

thanks

[night magnet]

https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

[vestal pelican]

all of these forms are biased too

those who have higher paying jobs are more likely to report

[night magnet]

That’s true but the median salary on this seems reasonable

I’m on mobile rn so I can’t check but I think it was like 115 or something

[jaunty basalt]

2S

[bright tartan]

yeah that sounds about right

[lament summit]

cmu is 122k

average

[night magnet]

Ya seems reasonable

[lament summit]

so yall shouldnt feel bad for nat getting 200k

[night magnet]

I’m honestly surprised at how low it is

But that matches up with other T5 and T10s

My T10 median is 110 which seems absurdly low bc everyone I know has offers for 160+

[lament summit]

cuz everyone u know is probs a try hard

[night magnet]

I mean maybe some ppl but

Literally everyone

[bright tartan]

if you just select undergrad, median for cmu is $89k 😕

[vestal pelican]

this suprised me. ig this server is just a bubble were 160k+ means like the norm

[night magnet]

Do 2021

[lament summit]

also not every cs major goes into swe

[night magnet]

89 is not accurate for 2021

[lament summit]

so keep that in mind

[night magnet]

Wow

Weird

Maybe the ppl doing continuing education are like 10k (just their stipend or whatever)

[rigid bobcat]

wtf is the bloomberg interview process

booked a 3rd technical interview

[vestal pelican]

uiuc CS

[bright tartan]

congrats omg! that's what I'm striving for 😭

[rigid bobcat]

each are like 1 month apart

[vestal pelican]

obv biased

[bright tartan]

hopefully i get something by next year

[night magnet]

Ya this yr is just crazy

[timber rock]

most people here are only going for a tiny subsection of jobs at big companies

they defo dont represent the average student

[bright tartan]

true, but to be fair you average cs student is probably not on discord or using it for just gaming

just being here makes you part of a small community of people who try harder

[timber rock]

yea

[civic summit]

no in terms of new grads who have already accepted offers + new grads who have just started working

[timber rock]

if you care enough to talk in a chatroom with random peole about jobs then you are probably already in like the top 30% of triers

[lament summit]

try hard

[timber rock]

wdym

[night magnet]

It’s crazy how much ur TC can be bumped just by trying

[tardy geode]

just got off bb phone

i have mixed feelings

[night magnet]

Like I got an internship last summer that was the bottomest of tiers

And then this yr I applied early

And did like 40 LC

And got a much better offer that’s I’m happy with

[tardy geode]

i wrote for r in range(rows) so he asked me is there any efficient way . so i couldn't figure it out

then he told lower boud < val < upper bound

[night magnet]

Bsearch?

[tardy geode]

i was like 💀 FML

that really caught be offguard i am embaressed at myself

😭

but i was able to solve and explain to him

even TC and SC

FML , i think it hinders my chances

😭

FUC FUC

no it was something similar to num of islands

@cedar nebula and @night magnet

[night magnet]

Was it tagged

[tardy geode]

nope but it was med bfs

do you think that hurts my chances

?

😭

i been preping for bb since 30 days

[wind drum]

i thought sys design was harder but only because i was very familiar w my learning concept

[tardy geode]

I was able to explain him the code , along with TC SC a

[dusty mauve]

did u move onto hm?

[wind drum]

yeah

[dusty mauve]

oh nice

yea rn i’m just banking on the fact that i can learn the learning

[timber rock]

u probably have a good chance cause you solved it

[wind drum]

man i wish every interview loop was similar to palantir's vo

it's pretty fun

[timber rock]

but people have been rejected even after solving their q so idk. not guaranteed ig

[dusty mauve]

i think bb rejects if u only solve 1

[tardy geode]

bro he asked me instead of r in range(rows) what could you do in O(1) TC and O(1) SC , i told him hashmap lol

[west egret]

I didn’t even solve q2 or write a single line of code for it in my BB phone. Still moved on to VO

[dusty mauve]

and ghosts if u solve 2 😭

[wind drum]

if they gave me a dp hard for the 1st question in phone that better be the only question they give

[dusty mauve]

yea ig depends on the questions

[tardy geode]

it was a bfs medium similar to num of islands

[timber rock]

might be different for different locations but everyone i know had only 1 q

everyone i know being 2 people

[dusty mauve]

i stand corrected

looks like u can pass solving 1

[timber rock]

i mean my interviewer told me there is only 1 question

i guess it depends on the interviewer

[tardy geode]

he asked me lot on resume for first 10 mins , then he gave me 3 matrices and told count the numer of islands for each matrix so i did that then he was askind me followips

[timber rock]

my guy talked about his work for like 20 mins lol

[tardy geode]

then after that whenever you ready code it out , before that he asked me how would you approach we won't code . want your thought process

so i told him each and every way , so post that he asked whenever you ready code it out

so started coding it out , explaining each and everyline

[dusty mauve]

what was your approach?

[tardy geode]

bfs

[brave dirge]

my phone was a hard. i didnt solve perfectly but still passed. it depends on the current bar ig

[dusty mauve]

for num islands pretty sure the fastest possible complexity is O(n^2)

for tc

[wind drum]

is it not O(n)

[brave dirge]

it is

[tardy geode]

lol someone told me its O(MN)

[dusty mauve]

yea that

height times width

u have to visit each cell

[tardy geode]

M - no of rows
N - cols

[wind drum]

yeah it depends what ur N is

i was thinking # of cells

[dusty mauve]

that’s why i’m kinda cobrushed about this

confused

[hidden fable]

Lower bound and upper bound in num islands?

[tardy geode]

he literally asked me what could you use instead of if r in range(rows)

i was taken offguard by this

i was like bro wut

then he was like in O(1) and O(1) TC SC

[dusty mauve]

maybe he wanted you to say dfs? but with dfs u still need the two nested loop

wtf

[tardy geode]

i was like WTF is this , so i told hashmap 💀 then he literally coded out lowerbound < i < upperbound

i was like WTF 💀

[dusty mauve]

bruh.

so he was literally just caring about the syntax?

that’s dumb

[tardy geode]

he was pretty chill tho

[wind drum]

was this checking if i is in bounds?

[dusty mauve]

and i assume you were using python

[tardy geode]

yeah

python gang FTW

[tardy geode]

yeah i was checking if the row is in bounds

[wind drum]

yeah then his solution makes sense

[dusty mauve]

not sure how this improves the tc 😭

[tardy geode]

idk man i have mixed feelings

[dusty mauve]

interviewer sounds like he was trolling

[wind drum]

checking if something exists in array is O(n)

[tardy geode]

ikr 😭

gotta ask my algo prof

[wind drum]

even if u use hashmap that's still redundant space

[dusty mauve]

sounds like he just wanted you to write the for loop in a different way

which is dumb

[tardy geode]

i think yeah , i felt so fucking embarassed when he wrote that thing

😭

i did bb tagged like top 50 each 4-5 times LOL

with proper understanding

since fking oct1

idk man i am hoping for the best , coz i felt he really liked my approach when i was thinking it out loud

[dusty mauve]

yea that outcome is really unfortunate and not ur fault

[tardy geode]

he wanted to see my thought process which i feel i conveyed when i was saying it

[tardy geode]

yea i would have something good today i was grinding for phone like a maniac since the past 30-40 days

[dusty mauve]

do you ever cencounter the swe intern person on tiktok

[tardy geode]

again back to the grind after a few hours

[tardy geode]

my friend is doing his final internship there , dude already has a rto from salesforce and google

[wind drum]

u should usurp her

[dusty mauve]

i wonder what her peers think of her lol

personally not a fan of her content

[wind drum]

ik there's some beef

[tardy geode]

i asked my algo prof rn he said this doesn't do shit

💀

[dusty mauve]

LOL

[tardy geode]

😭

[foggy perch]

tbh they just sound what I imagine the average cmu cs person as

[dusty mauve]

LOL real

idk bro there was one tiktok recently which was like

[foggy perch]

i'll clown on cmu and ivy people till the day I die

[dusty mauve]

“to all the new grads who got laid off/can’t find jobs, join this program which is clearly sponsoring me!”

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxSGS2W/

[foggy perch]

but also

how do you even become a sellout at 11k tiktok followers lmao

isn't this a tiny following

[dusty mauve]

probably still has a lot of reach for the niche community that pathrise is targeting

[foggy perch]

ig desperate cs student do be a vibe

[untold jolt]

i think around 85k new grad

[azure zephyr]

yeah recruiter said between 80-90k

[mighty crag]

Did everyone just receive an email from Amazon regarding the application

Says still under consideration

[marsh sand]

does anyone know if I can change my amazon offer to another location

for new grad

[honest sundial]

Nope

[tidal void]

man i wish every interview loop was

[timber rock]

Don't think u can for new grad yeah

[lament summit]

sheesh

[autumn ridge]

I’m shocked i didn’t hear back from Hudl. I have a decent resume and i sent them a link to my highschool hudl account 😂.

[tardy geode]

how much time does bb take to get back?

[night magnet]

Lmaoo

Real talk tho why are these small companies so picky

Like I haven’t gotten a single interview at a non publicly listed company

Ig smaller HC

[knotty talon]

can start a thread here

[marsh sand]

guys which companies are still hiring

[uncut umbra]

got an EY offer

[lament summit]

[tardy geode]

[uncut umbra]

ik her lol

[lament summit]

ur cmu too?

[uncut umbra]

ye

[lament summit]

damn

do u also have 10 trading offers

[uncut umbra]

updated to 2 offers

lmao no

[dusty mauve]

i still don’t understand why all the hachiyukis are from cmu

[uncut umbra]

I'm dumb and started way too late

[lament summit]

o

[uncut umbra]

gonna job hop next year with an early app round hopefully

like mid-july vibes

EY might work better than gm tbh

[tardy geode]

just need one offer

[lament summit]

id say gm is better

[tardy geode]

😭

[lament summit]

EY falls too much into the consulting vibes

which might get u stuck

[uncut umbra]

EY is more tech-focused for consulting, which I don't mind

[lament summit]

swe gm and swe ey right?

[uncut umbra]

EY might be in NYC or remote, which are both better than mich for me personally

especially if it's a job hop

sde gm, tech consulting ey

[lament summit]

yeah id stick to gm

if u want to stay in swe

[uncut umbra]

my goal is to job hop anyway tbh

[lament summit]

tech consulting is a big no no

[uncut umbra]

so might take it

idk

[lament summit]

then esp u want sde

[uncut umbra]

might accept both lol

[lament summit]

tech consulting gonna get u stuck

[uncut umbra]

the issue with gm is

[azure zephyr]

gm which location?

[uncut umbra]

I'd have to live in mich before my start date

[azure zephyr]

ah ok warren

[uncut umbra]

ye

don't want to spend 6 months of rent there yanno

[azure zephyr]

tbh dont sleep on gm they were close to top of my list

[uncut umbra]

also idk how tf I got an offer for ey

[lament summit]

yeah dont do ey

[uncut umbra]

I fucked up that second round tremendously lol

[lament summit]

esp if u gonna job hop

[azure zephyr]

oh for early job hop i would suggest staying for at least a year tbh

[lament summit]

r u trying to stay in swe?

[uncut umbra]

I mean

wherever the money is tbh

and rn it's in swe so ig

this is very much a product of the uni I go to and the fact that I don't completely suck at cs

I'm not hugely passionate about it

[lament summit]

so ur only in cs bc of the money?

[uncut umbra]

not completely

but I'm not like unerringly passionate about it

the way that some people in here are

[tardy geode]

who is not

[lament summit]

me

[tardy geode]

[slender apex]

imagine doing CS not for the bag smh

[uncut umbra]

and that's fair, but for me comp is definitely a large part of it

I wouldn't be doing swe if money wasn't a concern, like I'd def still dabble and get comfortable with tech, but not as much as I am right now

[abstract thistle]

It’s reported salary, not TC

[lament summit]

not in tech

[tardy geode]

ayo @grim ore how long does bb take to get back after phone?

[abstract thistle]

This is also all of CMU including architecture, bio, etc

[tardy geode]

twit is ded fam

oh i see

[uncut umbra]

got some irons in the fire, bb em is next monday

very much in the position of just waiting to see what's up with my interviews

[tardy geode]

this is TC:O(MN) and SC:O(N) right?

[lament summit]

yes

[slender apex]

has anyone here interviews with SpaceX, if so can I dm?

tyty

[dense seal]

anyone heard back from google apm for round 2 interviews?

[azure zephyr]

Finally cancelled my Leetcode premium subscription. feels good to be free (for now)

[west egret]

I just bought annual for $123 during the college discount. Worth it for the offer anyways I guess.

[azure zephyr]

i was paying $35 a month since june lmao def shouldve done annual

[chilly burrow]

I can see more leaving as well

Afaik Twitter used to have a gr8 culture

Elon seems to be changing that for the worse so others may also jump ship

[bleak ocean]

Ik ur supposed to say ur interviewing with other companies but are u also supposed to say u have other offer(s)

[lament summit]

blueberry

oh yeah sorry not blueberry

bangbus

[clear basalt]

has anyone done verkada backend onsite?

[tardy geode]

bruh then i got no hopes

[tardy geode]

thanks mate

[sudden sequoia]

has anyone interviewed for samsara and then gotten an offer yet?

[radiant juniper]

anyone know what the final round interviews at eBay are like? I have them tmrw morning

Also can anyone tell me about the decomposition interview for Palantir? I have the onsite in 2 days

[lament summit]

dont they explain it to you in the email

[radiant juniper]

yea but like I wanted to know if the decomposition interview is more literal system design where you explain ideas more or if you have to implement all of the solution you come up with

[calm blade]

Is Cognizant career suicide been reading up on this company

[lament summit]

implement all of the solution???

like write the entire application? LOL

[calm blade]

Was windows if it’s that bad

[radiant juniper]

ok true but like they have us sharing a hackerrank editor window so wasn't sure if it was just for note-sharing

[lapis zenith]

has anyone heard back from doordash post final round recently, how long does it take

[marsh sand]

Anyone still don't have an offer?

[lament summit]

yep notesharing

[radiant juniper]

is it more like sys design where you talk about cache layer, load balancer stuff, or more like OOP design?

[calm blade]

Can I still get Facebook and Google interviews

[lament summit]

baby sys design

[calm blade]

Lol dream companies there

[lament summit]

just think of it as sys design with only 1000 users

[calm blade]

If I work for cognizant for a year

[lament summit]

facebook 100% no

[calm blade]

Lol

[lament summit]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63541591

[solemn crag]

Duolingo recruiter reached out 1 month ago, neglected my reply and reached out again💀
I love their product but their recruiting process is just ass

[radiant juniper]

so like it would just be like "design a course enrollment system" and then I'd talk about the OOP repr of the system and like throw in some DB and load balancer usage?

[calm blade]

Damn okay will google still interview a person from WITCh

[lament summit]

why wouldnt they

[slender apex]

wtf is witch?

[lament summit]

chances of u getting an interview is probably slim

but not impossible

u'd probs need to hop to a lower tier company like amazon first

then to G

[calm blade]

Company rep reading on Reddit that to go unemployed instead of Witch

Lool

[lament summit]

p much but dont really need to talk about LB

[lament summit]

why would anyone tell u to be unemployed

[calm blade]

Faangsexual

Okay gotcha

[lament summit]

this

[radiant juniper]

hmm I see, thanks for the advice, I would really love to get an offer there, but not getting my hopes up. I'm sure the learning round is gonna be pretty unpredictable, too

[lament summit]

huh

[calm blade]

That’s good will keep my leetcode skills up then hop after a year

[slender apex]

yeah thats the plan

[radiant juniper]

anyone know what the eBay final round is like?

[calm blade]

It’s a term for people obsessed with FAANG

[lament summit]

well i worked at faang and im telling u to just take job

job better than no job

[calm blade]

You would give interview still with someone from cognizant

That’s relieving

[lament summit]

probably not u might need to make two jumps

but its def not career suicide

[calm blade]

Okay then what if I were to come from a trading firm company like CME group

Or F500

[lament summit]

idk man, im not a recruiter

[calm blade]

Cuz two job hops gonna take a while

Lmfaoooooo

Yes

[dense cloud]

is ur blog post out

[lament summit]

compared to G

[hasty birch]

6 months each

[calm blade]

That’s red flags 🚩 tho

Lool

[sudden sequoia]

aight so guys what do u think: Goldman NG Analyst in Salt Lake City (105k TC) or try to pursue masters so that I can potentially get a better offer later

[lament summit]

what school do you think u can get into

[sudden sequoia]

idk id say a good target is Georgia Tech

im at Umich rn

[calm blade]

Cognizant and still waiting to hear back from CME group

[hasty birch]

Take the offer, hop in a year

[lament summit]

^

[sudden sequoia]

hmm and then look for other opportunities later?

[calm blade]

Both are java backend development

[sudden sequoia]

u think its possible i can get FAANG after a year at Goldman?

[calm blade]

Yes

[hasty birch]

If they're not still frozen, yes

[sudden sequoia]

yeah i mean i am kinda most worried abt the resume screening ig

[dense cloud]

try to get a referral

[sudden sequoia]

i see makes sense

how do the interviews even look at that stage

it wouldnt be leetcode style right

i see makes sense

[calm blade]

it depends on what level they will interview you for

[sudden sequoia]

tbh i prefer if its still kinda leetcode based cuz idk how confident in my experience id be in a year

[calm blade]

I heard L3 and L4 might not have system design

you might do more leetcode round

[mossy monolith]

blog post advertiser

was hrt final round more lc based or more low level stuff

[calm blade]

or you will be downleved

depending on performance

[mossy monolith]

like u get all?

[sudden sequoia]

hmm i see so basically for the first couple years if i try to switch id still be doing leetcode type shit lmfao interesting

[mossy monolith]

or u get one of a wide variety

o ic

[calm blade]

yes but once you reach mid level or senior

is where system design kicks in

[mossy monolith]

did u do c++ or python?

[calm blade]

so try make switch early in career

[outer radish]

LETS GOOOO

[mossy monolith]

ic

[calm blade]

and you can avoid system design

[outer radish]

highest codesignal EVER

820 BAM

[hasty birch]

Just grind LC + sys design

[sudden sequoia]

ayyy niceeee thats hype

[mossy monolith]

tryna get into hrt new grad as well

next year

[outer radish]

ONLY UP FROM HERE BOIS AND GYALS

[mossy monolith]

yeah

idk if its still worth applying to more companies rn or just grinding for next year

thanks

i feel like most stuff are closed

had twitter last summer, amazon next summer

idk how much better i can do than amazon in thsi economy

i was gonna sit down and grind low level c++ stuff

distributed systems

at hrt

well not rly

i think im good enough at lc to interview at non hft companies

and if im wrong i can prob get amazon return

but hft is a different story

i saw that like dist sys ppl make 600k new grad

in ny office

is this number accurate 👀

o

do u mind sharing the ballpark of ur offer

did u nego?

oh ok

so 500+ was just the first offer

thats a heck ton

oh how did u get 500

ohhh

[hasty birch]

"just"

[mossy monolith]

are u doing core or algo?

[dense cloud]

are u earning more than ur bf now

[mossy monolith]

how did u prepare? i feel like for hft lc doesn't get u that far

i read ur guide but im not too clear

cause if u just know lc u dont know like system stuff and design patterns

etc

[kind orbit]

household combined tc: 1 million

[mossy monolith]

i didn't even know new grad salaries could go this high

i was just gonna settle w faang

but now im like lowkey inspired again

hft my new goal

[runic wind]

Lmao every CS grad ever

[dense cloud]

heh entered this year with a dream of hft or a big tech return offer but now just hoping to be employed

[sage sluice]

for amazon 2 hour final, its just leetcode questions? a mix? variable?

[hasty birch]

LP + LC

[foggy perch]

I'm surprised amazon is still interviewing people

[sage sluice]

me too lol

[sudden sequoia]

they still are?

damn i thought they froze

[foggy perch]

Well amazon waitlist is still a thing so 🤷

[obsidian marsh]

not student hiring

[sudden sequoia]

me out here still waiting

[sage sluice]

im interviewing for new grad

ik other people too

[sudden sequoia]

damn thats interesting

[sage sluice]

idk if theyll give out offers

[sudden sequoia]

so are they maybe looking to start popping from the waitlist?

[sudden sequoia]

its like mix of behavioral and technical qs

kinda leetcode-ish

rlly depends on interviewer tbh

[sage sluice]

how should i prep for LP questions

how are they even asked

[sudden sequoia]

its just general behavioral qs but remember to answer with LP in mind

uk

[sage sluice]

ahh ok

[sudden sequoia]

like its j any normal behavioral but they want to see if ur answers align with LP basically

[sage sluice]

awesome, thank you

[prime palm]

Wtf Amazon still interviewing?

Fucks sake

Resilient bastards

[sage sluice]

they confirmed my interview today too

[foggy perch]

oh yeah out of curiosity if someone asked, would you describe yourself as middle class once you and your bf start earning money @queen valve

[sage sluice]

and someone said they asked their recruiter and the recruiter said the freeze shouldnt affect us in the pipeline for 2023

but i mean idk, could be cap

[foggy perch]

sounds cap

[sage sluice]

yeah theyre gonna say that regardless

[foggy perch]

it's like meta recruiters telling interns not to worry about return offers

[sage sluice]

i was a meta intern

ive heard it before lol

[foggy perch]

f

so would you say you're middle class

i'm just curious

idk

[wheat seal]

Upper class for sure

[foggy perch]

i'm just curious since like

if most people are asked financial status

besides billionaires

I feel like they always say middle class

[wheat seal]

Upper class is different from wealthy right

[silent drift]

my final is on friday too, got confirmed last friday

[foggy perch]

fair

I probs would too

but I imagine a lot of people would see that as a meme tho

if they heard the number

like yo

100k man

I too am middle class

at 1mil

so true

would you tho

I feel like you cmu cs folk breathe cs

retire to start an esports org 4head

oh no

[sage sluice]

i got confirmed exactly one week before interview too, so its prob automated

[dense cloud]

how do u know if ur ood design is good

[uncut umbra]

do companies care about you having a wrinkly shirt

[sonic coral]

As long as you look like a functioning member of society they won’t care

[fresh lagoon]

doesnt mean theyre paying tho

[lament summit]

Poverty

If u have 10kids

[wheat seal]

Yea with 10 kids u need to be making 3mill

[sonic coral]

To be fair there is a very fine threshold and I’d def consider my parents middle class because of all their debt but they still didn’t qualify for much aid outside of loans

[wheat seal]

For each kid u need 100-150k

At least

[sonic coral]

Like our household income was around 150k at the time and that was above the threshold to even get subsidized loans

[wheat seal]

Like I’m living by myself and 105k base isn’t to raise a kid I feel

U need to have like 150k

[runic wind]

Just LC, so like $30/mo

[wheat seal]

Yea if u want them to have the best I’d say 150k per kid

[runic wind]

$150k per kid holy shit

[timber rock]

😵‍💫

[fresh lagoon]

gonna use that one to negotiate

pay me 150k per kid or im out

[runic wind]

300k saved over 18years tho

Pre tax, assuming 527

It's still insane, but not impossible with tech salaries

Real estate

Are you planning to buy real estate in NYC as well

Ah that makes sense

[timber rock]

how do non-wealthy people in america even pay for tuition? do u just have to find a bank that will give you a loan of 100k?

[runic wind]

But idt my parents would take money from me
Even if I want to pay then back

[uncut umbra]

cmu is big gay

[fossil jewel]

fin-aid, and loans

[runic wind]

State schools are much cheaper

[foggy perch]

debt

[fossil jewel]

lots of ivy league schools could end up paying the whole thing for you

[timber rock]

that's rough

[sonic coral]

They’re called private student loan servicers

And they’re the scum of the earth

[fossil jewel]

private loans are evil though

yes

the worst people on earth

[timber rock]

yea i have heard of incredibly high interest rates lol

people just never being able to pay it off

[foggy perch]

huh is it vietnam or china

[sonic coral]

Luckily for me my federal loans were enough

[fossil jewel]

fed loans are manageable

[foggy perch]

wait I feel like i've asked this before

[sonic coral]

And thanks to Covid basically subsidized

[foggy perch]

oh well

[wheat seal]

Yea Covid is a double edged sword

[fossil jewel]

state education is nicely cheaper

[sonic coral]

Yep

[wheat seal]

Covid is helpful but unhelpful at the same time

[fossil jewel]

feel the same way

[uncut umbra]

tuvalu

[fossil jewel]

on the one hand, i now realize how much time i was wasting commuting, on the other, i have lost my mind lmao

[foggy perch]

I need covid 20 to drop down rent prices again plz

[timber rock]

could not imagine paying 20k+ a year to learn online

[foggy perch]

sorry never heard of it, must be a fake country

[runic wind]

Why are rents going back up

[foggy perch]

meh online > in-person classes tbh

[fossil jewel]

most i was paying a semester was 3k

[foggy perch]

I enjoy not commuting to campus

or wasting time in a classroom

[fossil jewel]

i learn better in person but my commute is farrrr

[foggy perch]

i barely learn things in lecture

much better for me to learn while doing hw

[timber rock]

that's a lot easier for me to swallow lol

[foggy perch]

and refer to online lecture

[fossil jewel]

but also my current classes bore me so i dont even go

i just read the slides

no attendance except for 1

[foggy perch]

same

I'm just trying to survive final semester

[fossil jewel]

me too!

[timber rock]

better believe if I was paying for this I'd be attending everything

💀

[fossil jewel]

im literally pissed off that i emailed said attendance class prof and said im not going lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah my entire degree i havent really paid much

[dense cloud]

i have barely gone to any irl classes so far this semester

[fossil jewel]

if i paid 3k, i'd get refunded bc financial aid office made a mistake

which happened last semester

[fossil jewel]

same, i think im just tired of school

5.5 years in total

[timber rock]

i was sick of it after 1 semester, god knows how I held on to this point

[tardy geode]

i am just coasting through grad school

grinding LC is all i do

grades i don't even see at this point

[dense cloud]

im tired of lc

[timber rock]

with a bit of luck we soon won't need to touch it for a couple years

[glass egret]

any gotten offer from uber? plz reach out 🙂 we have 3 people with offers. we are lost.

[brave dirge]

i didn’t know uber hired new grad this year

talked with hiring manager at career fair. he told me they weren’t hiring

[plush crane]

I thought some people got interviews

[minor drum]

does the location pref usually matter? I applied to goldmann sacchs and was just rejected fro 2/3 locations.

[delicate frigate]

I think it does. I applied to the US as well as UK positions for intern positions at GS. Got rejected for the US position despite getting a 100% on technical

Got an offer for the UK office

[minor drum]

nice

does the salary differ based on locaion

[timber rock]

yes

[minor drum]

yeah, makes sense

[tardy geode]

same

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-pray-prayge-gif-24836268

[left ginkgo]

Has anyone passed the virtual office hour visit for targets rotational program?

[stone kettle]

does ebay resume screen after OA?

sent 845 hope i hear back /;

JY

my resume isnt super strong so im scared they will ghost

like some other companies have

[lone rapids]

mine is JY too

[stone kettle]

have u heard back after oa?

[lone rapids]

nope

[stone kettle]

so they screen after OA

[chilly burrow]

Hypothetically what should I do if I had Calendly links for recruiters at a company that didn't exclusively give me the links

Would it be worth trying to book a discussion 🤔

[hard cobalt]

I think JY is a team lead at ripple match, not an ebay recruiter?

[vestal pelican]

i much rather do LC instead of school work

I hate math and stats courses

[lone rapids]

Why do you think that?

[grizzled bronze]

You can, but I would try to email them directly first

[chilly burrow]

I don't have their emails

[stone kettle]

oh ur prob right

[chilly burrow]

I just found a way to get calendly links

[stone kettle]

he has @ripplmatch email

[chilly burrow]

I guess I could do the old gmail trick

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah if you can't find their email then you can just try booking the Calendly, worse they can do is reject

[drifting nova]

Has anyone been able to push forward Google PA’s process with a competing offer? Wondering if it’s worth a try

New grad external hire

Recruiter said i passed on site but they’re waiting for hc 😦

[tardy geode]

thats what i do lol , in one class i only do LC all 3 hours (its a 3hour class)

[drifting nova]

Damn i might gotta accept this offer then

Thank you!

Idk what to say lol

Like the recruiter says she also didn’t know when she hears back either :/

[tardy geode]

g will convert most interns , i bet

[marsh sand]

Has anyone interviewed w Bloomberg London?

nice to see u here again btw haha

[sage sluice]

we thought we made it out the slums

haha

1 year later here we are

[marsh sand]

yup 😦 we'll both make it through

any offers yet?

[timber rock]

i did the phone

[marsh sand]

is it OA -> phone?

[timber rock]

No oa

Phone is first round

[marsh sand]

Oh wow interesting; were they all LC tagged?

[timber rock]

Yea my q was

I got house robber

[marsh sand]

Oh wow okok thanks for the tip

had that as my amazon OA like years ago LMAO

or maybe it was the practice Q

[timber rock]

Yea I completely bombed it

[marsh sand]

ah 😦 how so? did you not get the optimal solution in time?

[timber rock]

Didn't get any solution

[sage sluice]

nope

[timber rock]

Then the guy just gave me the formula after like 20 mins

[sage sluice]

hbu

[marsh sand]

It's pretty much DP so it's hard without knowing the recurrence relation

[timber rock]

Yea i can't do any dps lol

Never really learned it

[marsh sand]

tbf I believed Meta would just give me an offer in the end but was only started applying like 2 weeks ago after my rejection lmaoo

[sage sluice]

it be like that

[marsh sand]

but I'm based in London too so it's like 1 month later than the US

so no offers; just got my Amazon OA today and bombed DRW OA yesterday

hoped Amazon would give me my old return offer (that I rejected) back but they told me to re-apply

got Palantir and BB referrals, applied to quite a bit today as well so hopefully I hear back today

[sage sluice]

one day youre eating korean bbq in menlo park, ordering "the baller" drink from the menu, laughing with fellow interns about how wealthy youre all about to be. next day youre back home with zero offers eating tysons frozen chicken

[robust kettle]

Amazon still giving OAs? Think i applied 5 weeks back still no OA

[sage sluice]

gl homie

we got this

[marsh sand]

sucks that we're graduating in a pretty terrible economic situation

[uncut umbra]

just had stubhub final

I'm so goddamn tired

[marsh sand]

this tbf; literally was treating myself and my gf really good food once in a while and now I'm surviving off of cheap college food

[sage sluice]

yeah same lol

we were living big this summer

[marsh sand]

we got this. We'll all be happy next year around this time

[marsh sand]

It's really RNG; I think it helped that I was a former intern with a return offer

hopefully I ace the OAs and get the 30 x 1 one

[timber rock]

they're frozen rn anyway

[marsh sand]

yup... FAANGs all frozen

F shouldn't even be in FAANG anymore after slashing 95% of interns this Summer

[bright tartan]

tiktok interview on wednesday

anyone have any tips?

[lament summit]

LC

[marsh sand]

I don't think there's a shortcut around getting good at Algo & DS

Just grind Blind 75 and Company Tagged

That's how I got Meta & Amazon at least

[carmine summit]

hello

[marsh sand]

hi farmer

[bright tartan]

got it! I bombed a couple FAANG interviews last year, super low confidence rn

[marsh sand]

what's your favorite thing to put on bread

[carmine summit]

i like it plain

[marsh sand]

oh no nutella?

[bright tartan]

but you're right, practice and persistence

[carmine summit]

tbh i havent checked this place in a while and i dont recognize anybody

[bright tartan]

hi

[lament summit]

gold

sometimes truffles

other times caviar

[bright tartan]

hummus

or PB/J

[quaint spoke]

when does new grad hiring wrap up?

[robust kettle]

May?

[carmine summit]

goes p late usually

[strange ore]

new grad positions aren't real

it's all a setup

[marsh sand]

Explore section on LC surprisingly helps

[quaint spoke]

i've been hearing like after nov/dec (like next month) there are p much no more postings for any good companies. any truth in that?

[timber rock]

nah they go longer than that

[carmine summit]

tbh tho things are gonna be diff this year

kinda looking rough

[timber rock]

yea

[lapis cove]

i recognize you

[reef lynx]

Is there a discord server for Snowflake?

[compact vortex]

is snowflake even doing new grad this year?

[tired cape]

@tidal mulch tried dming you

about draftkings

[snow blade]

Can someone who got Palantir OA dm?

[pure mauve]

holy fk duolingo oa was so long and hard

[lament summit]

naw

prob return

[compact vortex]

did they confirm no new grad

[reef lynx]

They opened new grad position in July, and closed only after a few days

[compact vortex]

wait huh

i missed that then

[reef lynx]

Yeah it was super short time frame

[wild igloo]

would you guys retake a 836 codesignal?

[carmine summit]

no

[wild igloo]

I'm nervous if there is an arbitrary 840 cutoff .-.

[old smelt]

it was 2022 grads only

[compact vortex]

ohhh

okok

[prime palm]

If you ever got rejected after submitting an 836 it was because there was a resume screen after the codesignal

[true stream]

Thoughts on atlassian vs amazon?

[wind drum]

do u know ur amazon team

lotta risk you end up on a bad team with shit wlb

[prime palm]

breh

you're joking

[jaunty basalt]

There’s no flippin way

[wind drum]

why you going back

[prime palm]

oh, it's a reject

that's why i'm angy

[true stream]

Yuh I interned with them. Didn’t seem especially good or bad wlb, product was kinda boring though

[lilac locust]

What happened

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah I figured , just that a recruiter said there’s no flipping way everyone getting reviewed

[bleak ocean]

What’s the code signal score needed for Niantic?

If I retake code signal and do worse will it send the lower score?

Oh sweet thanks

[minor drum]

does anyone know if the 2 job limit for tiktok only applies to tiktok?

can we apply to bytedance as well?

[hard cobalt]

I think It applies to bytedance as well. I was able to apply to one role in each.

[minor drum]

ok, thanks

[sage sluice]

anyone interviewed with / know anything about a company called Nium

[eternal hatch]

Any companies rescinded their new grad offer recently?

[distant rampart]

anyone who's done amazon oa 1 for uk newgrad? I don't remember them asking to turn on my webcam and it looks like the email says it requires it for debugging part

[supple quail]

Has anyone attended Bloomberg's 1hr interview prep session? Couldn't make it today and wanted to know if there was anything useful

[marsh sand]

im doing it for luxembourg new grad and i think webcam is just to take a photo of yourself at the start of oa

doe i donno what the use for it would be

[distant rampart]

thanks. did u take it for oa part 1? cause i dont even remember taking a photo of myself 😦

it prob doesnt let u start the OA unless u take it right

[bronze nymph]

depends heavily tbh, if you know and liked your amazon team, i'd lean amazon

[vital gust]

pretty sure @rich crown is wrong

you choose a past score or retake

if you retake the new score gets sent

[true stream]

Interesting, just for the name value? Or you think not risking getting a different team at atlassian?

[maiden fable]

https://www.teamblind.com/post/Amazon-layoff-small-scale-or-large-scale-aWajot40

but it says they can find internal teams to join

[sonic coral]

Wait the entire robotics org??

[maiden fable]

i think only in that specific loc

it would be impossible to let go of the entire org

unless elon musk takes over

[rigid quail]

zon is bleeding cash

id see them clearing out a lot of robotics teams that aren’t mission critical

[maiden fable]

but they still can do internal transfer

so it aint that bad

[honest sundial]

Can't transfer if every org is under freeze

[maiden fable]

yeah

[honest sundial]

So they are effectively laid off

[sonic coral]

I think that blind post mentioned there isn’t many open internal postings

[maiden fable]

yeah just saw

[somber oyster]

Guys I have a question about the final interview, after the final interview if they asked about have any other offers, answer Yes is better than no??

[rigid quail]

answering honestly is best

[harsh socket]

I took the OA and they didn't ask me to turn webcam on

[cyan cosmos]

would anyone mind dming me any bloomberg recruiter email. I usually use salesql or rocketreach but it seems it doesn't have the correct format

[white linden]

Is getting a ng offer a lot harder than internships?

[chilly burrow]

Last year I would've said no

But this year yeah...

[white linden]

Wait rlly why’s that tho do they usually hire more new grads than interns