2023_grads

[prime palm]

same no cap

[rigid quail]

the world will look very different but I believe in human ingenuity

[uncut umbra]

not when most of the people with social capital in this world are actively trying to fuck us over

[uncut umbra]

yeah so "the world as we know it is ending"

[rigid quail]

as we know it can mean very different things

[uncut umbra]

I cannot imagine a climate apocalypse devestated earth where we still have to worry about jobs and non-survival things nearly this much

that's my take

[prime palm]

I think you can just Google about

[rigid quail]

you still will in the functioning places

[prime palm]

Global warming crisis's and see

Flooding

Hurricanes

[uncut umbra]

I don't think there will remain any functioning places

[prime palm]

Insane temperatures in India

[uncut umbra]

not to the level of the places rn

[prime palm]

Etc etc etc

[rigid quail]

we’re supposed to be the future holy shit you guys are doomers

[uncut umbra]

if you have a different view then more power to you, but based on the trajectory I can't imagine things remaining the way they are now

[rigid quail]

i’m not the most positive person but we will pull through

[uncut umbra]

yeah lol I do not have faith in humanity, not after the countries with the supposed intellectuals have to spend 30% of the year arguing over whether basic healthcare should be offered

[rigid quail]

me too tbh it’s just the wlb is a detterance for me

[prime palm]

You think you can make the world stop using cars overnight or stop rich people from flying to outer space as they please or using private jets at their beck and call

[prime palm]

I hope so as well

[rigid quail]

this is a result of no active threats happening, things are not nearly as inefficient in places with less abundance

[prime palm]

I don't think it's called being a doomer

[uncut umbra]

yeah but there's a sizable portion of these countries that are unwilling to see reason. and based on the way that they influence the masses, they have undue political representation in most countries where this isn't an issue.

[green bronze]

USING ME AS SOURCE IS CRAZY CUZ I ONLY THE PALANTIR RECRUITER THAT CUZ I WAS ALREADY SET

It's true though

[uncut umbra]

like I have very little doubt if an asteroid started heading towards earth, at least in the US, most of the republican party would spend their time shitting on nasa for fearmongering before talking about how it's really all the jews' fault

[green bronze]

Would only work for a company like palantir for money

[uncut umbra]

and we end up fucking dying anyway

[prime palm]

LOOOOL

[green bronze]

It's true can you blame me

Company calls you asking you why palantir

"I'm going to be 100% honest with you (insert recruiter), it's money and location, the work is not that imp to me"

[uncut umbra]

lmao I spent 5 minutes talking about what I learned about palantir and the work from my referree

[green bronze]

U were referred it's different

Yea she said she appreciated the honesty and at the end she said she would me move forward

We talked about other stuff but the reality is I just be honest during interviews

Don't try to cap or anything

But I show alot of enthusiasm and that carries me

People don't understand unless you talking to the ceo

These people only there for money too

Appealing to their humanity >>> appealing to business

Pysc 101

Only company i had to bs for was Amazon cuz the whole process is robotic asf, my interviewer was deadass filling out a sheet and asking questions like a robot

[uncut umbra]

interesting take tbh

[green bronze]

Why

[uncut umbra]

cause I would have said that when recruiters have the power, it's better to appeal to what they want to hear

and most recruiters don't want to hear that a candidate isn't very interested in the company

because it's very easy to lose said candidate to a better company if those are hiring

[green bronze]

what do they wanna hear?

[uncut umbra]

they want to hear that you genuinely care about the company

so that gives you less reason to go to another company

[green bronze]

Recruiters don't care about that

LMFAO u ever talk to a recruiter?

[uncut umbra]

even if they think you're lying, at least you've done your research

[prime palm]

Wait r u in Palantir process rn

[green bronze]

Yea i'm gonna tap out though

[uncut umbra]

that's what my recruiter friends have told me

[prime palm]

U got an offer alr?

[frank wedge]

My chime recruiter said I knew more about the company than she did

[green bronze]

yea i got a few

I've been done for a min

[prime palm]

My dawggggg

[green bronze]

Pal is all that's left

[prime palm]

Who u got just curious

[green bronze]

not tryna dox but i'll say i got Return, ATT, Zon, and startup esq

[prime palm]

What's ro

Oh

Icccc

[green bronze]

ATT and return are donezo now

wb yall?

[green bronze]

It be like that

Being someone easy to talk to, being charismatic, enthusiastic and energetic carries when you don't have experience is free during behaviorals

Only fail LC

Gotta be smooth with it fr

[sonic coral]

I think a better approach is to kiss their ass with “I wanna work with some of the smartest people in the industry and be challenged everyday solving some of the most interesting problems”

And obv throw in a few company specific stuff here and there

But it’s a good base for most big companies

[green bronze]

I def agree, also in response for anyone who thinks doing what I did is a good idea, I just want to make sure its clear:
#2023_grads message

If you need a job, kiss ass

[night magnet]

Would you kiss your bosses bootycheeks one time per day for 800 TC?

[green bronze]

No

[sonic coral]

$800 a year to kiss your bosses bootychecks

[left ginkgo]

Has anyone recieved offer details from General Motors yet?

[sonic coral]

Sounds like you’re a sex slave

[sonic coral]

Yeah stroking ego is def a good approach but you also need be smooth too

[tardy geode]

how is algomonster ?

has anyone used it

[sonic coral]

Too much ass kissing and they’ll get annoyed also

[uncut umbra]

yes

[prime palm]

i'd do it for free

gimmie them cheeks boi

[prime palm]

@queen valve yo can I dm

[gaunt shore]

not yet. just got a verbal through phone on friday

[lament summit]

Congrats

[left ginkgo]

Same!

[novel sigil]

hello, does anyone have work experience with oracle oci? ive been trying to get a handle of their wlb + company culture but everything online says its absolute hell, so i wld like to talk to someone who's actually worked there before if possible :(

[prime hill]

87k base, 10% target bonus, 5k signing bonus but only fully yours after 2 years

[stark topaz]

are top 100 problems enough for BB phone? anyone faced problems below top 100?

[gaunt shore]

anyone have success negotiating the base ?

[sonic coral]

Well they just had layoffs

[novel sigil]

ik lol, but so is every other company unfortunately 💀

[wheat seal]

Twitter is still hiring swe?

[wheat seal]

Fr?

They profit though

Oh it was only 200 employees

That’s nothing though

I think that’s just a reorg no?

Swe is fine

[lone rapids]

they lowballing

[wheat seal]

LCOL that’s actually nice

[lone rapids]

whats the location

[wheat seal]

GM is only in lcol right?

I don’t think they are located in hcol

[prime hill]

p sure just detroit

[lone rapids]

i mean what location comes in lcol

detroit i see

[wheat seal]

My brother says ppl at twitter are lazy but he isn’t a dev

I told him that twitter is more than just a website that u click a few buttons on

I mean they have good wlb

But most of tech does

Yea elon is wild. Spacex and Tesla don’t seem like friendly places to work

Also Spacex seems kinda uninteresting

Twitter was such a good company too

[high arrow]

Anyone have any knowledge on Mathworks offers/negotations for NG?

[prime palm]

was wondering if you got asked a second decomp in ur HM

:p

[prime palm]

This lowkey

Kind of hoping I don't have to accept Tesla and that I get something better

[wheat seal]

I mean it’s probably dependent on manager though mostly

[prime palm]

Nah just in general

I'm not looking forward to potential volatility

What's next, Tesla being slashed?

[lone rapids]

how much is Tesla TC

[prime palm]

It's team dependent

Im interviewing with Autopilot which I hear is around 200?

[lone rapids]

Damn

[prime palm]

But it's in Palo Alto

Fuck a Palo Alto bro

[lone rapids]

if u aint intl then accept it IG

[prime palm]

NYC or hust

bust

Let me bust on u

😳😳😳

[lone rapids]

-<

[prime palm]

$8

[smoky bone]

Can I dm u

[prime palm]

Of course baby girl

[signal trellis]

New grad posting: https://simplify.jobs/p/4695e0d6-77c6-453c-ab8c-239abb28a450/Full-Stack-Product-Engineer-New-Grad

[jade solar]

Has any non-intern gotten an Okta new grad offer? Or is anyone interviewing with the Azure Integrations team?

[prime palm]

Not an offer but I have their phone next week

Their process is relatively light

Oa > recruiter screen > phone 1 > phone 2 > HM

[white escarp]

bruh okta never got back to me 😭

[jade solar]

Yeah I had my final rounds early last week, been waiting for a decision since. Recruiter hasn't been helpful

She told me the team was scheduled to make a final decision on Wednesday, but then the day after she's like "we're wrapping up interviews" and is hoping for a final decision "soon"

[prime palm]

I went ti an Okta webinar

And connected w a recruiter

[jade solar]

JB?

[white escarp]

👀 u got all the girls

[old smelt]

same thoughts, for me it's Canada remote >> anything else

[night magnet]

💀 800k

[night magnet]

Yes

[dense blaze]

Wtf

[dense blaze]

Wtffff

[night magnet]

valid

[signal trellis]

one day 😩

[prime palm]

Yep

[echo finch]

@prime palm can u ask okta if they would like to consider me :)

[tardy geode]

723 codesignal good for ebay?

[prime palm]

Ofc

[white escarp]

ikr canada remote is goated

[dense tulip]

anyone take vanguard final round?

[thick shell]

Yeah

[tardy geode]

hope get a phone atleast

[thick shell]

You definitely can cause I submitted a 675 and got final. Not proud of the score but it it what it is lol

[eternal mortar]

for those of you that are gonna be living in HCOL places, what's your budget for monthly rent

and are y'all planning on living with roommates

[tardy geode]

so after gca whats the process like?

[sonic coral]

2.5-3k is a solid budget even by yourself imo

But yeah below that and you’re better off with roommates

[foggy perch]

^

i'm going for 2.5-3k for solo housing since peace of mind and privacy > savings

[dusty mauve]

why tf r there so many HachiYukis

[foggy perch]

idk some weirdos with anime pfps must be fakes

[zinc bear]

my office is mountain view but i wanna live in sf

[forest aspen]

fr

[zinc bear]

its gonna be so expensive + so much commute 😦

[foggy perch]

i'll be dead before I have a commute longer than 15 minutes

how long was it

ew

what's wrong with you

that's like

4 hours of time lost a day

wtf

classic cmu er

honestly

cmuer kinda sounds like coomer

coomuer

[thick shell]

GCA -> Final Round(4 Interviews)

[prime palm]

WAIT

UR A BERKELEY MAN?

[thick shell]

They'll send out a form after to see what your availability is

[tardy geode]

oh i see tysm

doing ebay tagged?

[thick shell]

Yeah that's what I'm doing. Good thing about it is it has a lot of overlap with Grokking with Blind 75 so I'm just mugging those up

[tardy geode]

nicee

hope we get through brother

[thick shell]

We will get jobs!

[prime palm]

WE

ALL

GONNA

MAKE

IT

WAGMI LETS GO

[forest aspen]

how many lc you guys do a day usually?

[fallen fox]

0-15

[forest aspen]

bro how do you do 15

are they easies?

[fallen fox]

15 before interviews

[forest aspen]

o.o

[fallen fox]

i pretty much just spend the entire day

[forest aspen]

thats insane

i try for like 4-6 a day max

[fallen fox]

0 if i have classes

[plain pelican]

do u retain any of this my guy

[fallen fox]

no

[forest aspen]

lmao

[plain pelican]

feel it’s overkill

yeah lol just focus on common patterns

[wheat seal]

15 lc in 1 day isn’t possible. Like new problems I mean

[forest aspen]

this makes me feel better about myself lol

[plain pelican]

4 days and ur done with blind 75 lmao

[foggy perch]

2 hours a day for how long?

wtf

wtf

[fallen fox]

15 = combination of tagged and older ones

[plain pelican]

This is realistic

[foggy perch]

i just do 2 hours a day for 1 week before an interview

[wheat seal]

Did u prep for interviews before?

[foggy perch]

and call it a day

[fallen fox]

idk if i have an interview coming up i just ditch everything for a couple of days and grind lc

[wheat seal]

I feel like it can be anywhere from 2-6mths to prep

[forest aspen]

im not the best at writing notes but i do write comments on my LC q's that i do

[fallen fox]

if i miss assignments i just email the prof with a dumb excuse

[foggy perch]

not if you have past experience interviewing since it's just review

[wheat seal]

Yea pretty much

[forest aspen]

i plan to continue to do LC

[wheat seal]

If ur brand new

[forest aspen]

even if i get a ob

ill spend like an hour a day

[wheat seal]

To coding and interviewing

Probably would take longer than 6mths

U went with which company?

[forest aspen]

i didnt realize i hadto start applying to companie that early

[wheat seal]

Netflix?

[forest aspen]

until it was past that time

howd u prep for behaviorals

[wheat seal]

Oh u got hrt?

U don’t think Netflix would be cool tho?

Oh ok yea I don’t like cali either

U interned in the bay?

[wheat seal]

Recruiter layoffs are normal?

[latent sun]

WHO WONNED

[fresh lagoon]

you

[latent sun]

GG TSM Worlds 22

[oak patrol]

How did you get 20 interview callbacks? Anything specific in your profile that stands out from other resumes?

[green bronze]

cracked fr

U talented?

Hardwork?

Proud of u fr

That's insane in of itself

and some because i emailed and tell them i have offers from their competitors

this is some serious chad shit

[gloomy terrace]

Damn good shit

HRT is amazing

[green bronze]

Ur fr cracked

[cerulean basin]

!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot

[mystic glacier]

whats the point of posting jobs like this

[ivory stratus]

For real lol

[signal trellis]

LinkedIn ☕

[celest mauve]

hey was this technical one with hackerrank? How did it go?

[marsh sand]

Omg whats the tc if you dont mind asking

[grizzled bronze]

I applied to some of these intern conversion listings, nothing ever happened though

[west egret]

Isn't that just for keeping all the return interns under one posting?

Otherwise you have previous interns and external applicants all jumbled into one pool. Or did you mean it being posted on LinkedIn?

[unique topaz]

if im a senior and i wanna apply for internships do you think i can change my grad date to december 2023 for internships and just apply? even tho im actually graduating in may 2023? and then say i changed my mind if i get offer?

[rich night]

many ppl alrdy do this on the lowkey

[unique topaz]

oh ok ok cool

[quartz vale]

ok guys I bet this question has been asked hundreds of times

Did amazon just freeze again?

Anyone got waitlisted this week?

@misty thunder

thanks for the insider info

[knotty talon]

Yooo @quartz vale whatsup

You going back to Nuro?

[quartz vale]

heyyyy not bad not bad

yeah I'm going back to Nuro

[quartz vale]

any more info on this MR brandon

or all we know is it's freezing

jesus

so for my friend who just did final last week

it's a waitlist for her

thanks for the info Brandon

[pulsar mural]

[lilac locust]

How are people getting internships still there

are those not frozen

[jade solar]

What Okta team are you interviewing with?

[prime palm]

Waiting for a match

I had a recruiter call on Tuesday

They said they'd submit my info and when a team picks me up then yeah

We will proceed

[jade solar]

Ok, so you're a May/June grad?

[prime palm]

Dec 2022

[jade solar]

Same as me. Did you apply to a posting?

[prime palm]

Yeah but idk if it did anything

I went to some Okta webinar

And met a recruiter

We connected and she sent me the OA

And then we had a phone call after the OA

[jade solar]

Yeah we have the same recruiter. I went to the webinar but JB moved me on with a certain team a few days before. I had the first round scheduled before the webinar

[prime palm]

Icicicic

[jade solar]

Kind of a weird process it seems

[magic acorn]

did u give mock interviews ?

[tardy geode]

is grokking DP pattern good?

[lament summit]

"if you dont mind me asking"

[tardy geode]

grokking coding interview patterns is by designgurus or educative?

can someone confirm?

https://www.educative.io/courses/grokking-coding-interview-patterns-python

OR

https://designgurus.org/course/grokking-the-coding-interview

[plush crane]

Educative is a platform where design gurus hosts the course

[tardy geode]

oh

[plush crane]

But you can also buy direct from design gurus for cheaper

[tardy geode]

gotcha

also are those just texts or videos too?

@plush crane

[plush crane]

Just text

Actually if you search GitHub you can find a repo with all the text

[tardy geode]

ehh can i pirate? lol

[plush crane]

Yeah GitHub repos have the text and the questions are on lc

[lament summit]

"hi whats tc if you dont mind"

[prime palm]

bro

how are you reading messages from 3 days ago

i'm convinced you periodically come into this server and ctrl f your name

lOL

[lament summit]

"can you give me all your answers and all your questions"

"if you dont mind"

[prime palm]

ily

[sonic coral]

“Hi can you give me your mothers maiden name and your ssn”

“If you don’t mind”

[wheat seal]

Why not 70 tho

[sonic coral]

An extra $40 a week or achieve meme status

I think it’s a clear cut answer

[sonic coral]

Bruh if you need an extra $40 a week on any swe salary you’re living above your means

[grizzled bronze]

That explains why I'm seeing recent posts in my LinkedIn timeline for Amazon roles, but when I click I get an error page

[fossil jewel]

oh shit @queen valve got into hrt? Congrats

i have some hrt swag actually

got it from a career fair 👀

a beanie, and a pin

the waterbottles i gave to someone

[fossil jewel]

yeah thats why i didnt care

the beanie is nice

pin is cute but it says "woman at hrt" but i dont i'd ever be able to work there let alone pass resume screen lol

[tardy geode]

need prayge boost for the upcoming week

[prime palm]

are you leaving the server now

i feel like after i sign new grad

i am done with cs career discord servers

; - ;

i grew up with u boys

i will miss u all

[tardy geode]

i joined this server in feb

joined the BUST culture

i just need one final

[lunar spear]

what role did you get at HRT?

[tardy geode]

teach me LC 😭

[lunar spear]

nice, how were the interviews? I heard it's mostly LC + some system design

[tardy geode]

ayo

[lunar spear]

yeah I get that, did you get an offer from Optiver too?

[fossil jewel]

"Recruiters hate those 5 tricks. Especially #2. 5 Tricks to get you cracked. #3 Might shock you"

[lunar spear]

cool, how was their onsite like if you don't mind me asking?

[bold pier]

They had free coffee

[lunar spear]

LC meds or were they hards?

I was asking more to get a guage of how hard the questions are that they tend to ask

not specifics per se

[sonic coral]

2sig is DEF not study the tagged lmao

They have like 5-10 tagged

The phone might be tagged

But the on-site sure as fuck ain’t

[crude saffron]

Same

[foggy perch]

i haven't even seen you post a link to it once

smh

[sonic coral]

Hey they ghosted me too

[foggy perch]

garbage ads

smh

[sonic coral]

Nope

[crude saffron]

It’s fine it was just Yield protection

[runic wind]

Idek no trading firms phones/onsites had LC hard in my exp

[sonic coral]

Lol it’s crazy I did my tech on-site then got ghosted for 2 weeks before I got the behavioral then got rejected a week after behav

They strung me along for sure

[crude saffron]

Hrt has lc hard for algo dev

[runic wind]

Not for core tho
But makes sense, algo dev elite

[sonic coral]

Yeah fuck 2s for new grad

I heard industry 2s is dumb easy

[crude saffron]

Did u get them?

[sonic coral]

Nah there’s someone with 1.5yoe at msft who’s now at 2s and they said the 2s interview was way easier than new grad

Prob but they could treat their applicants like a fuckin person esp if they did their on-site

Like I wouldn’t have been as salty if they just rejected me after the on-site

Yeah so if you know what you’re doing at your current job you basically don’t need to prep

Lol i forgot to mention

The reason I’m so salty about all this

[runic wind]

Me, after getting 17 offers

[sonic coral]

Is they say that within 24 of hours of tech on-site you’ll know if you’re moving on to behav

Which is next business day

But for me they just ghosted me for 2 weeks and then suddenly were like “oh yeah you passed here’s your behavioral”

And when I asked the recruiter wasn’t the behav supposed to be the day after she just ignored me

[runic wind]

Lots of companies do this
They just want to push in as many finals w/ other candidates in those two weeks as possible

[sonic coral]

So 100% they strung me along till someone reneged or some shit

Always sucks being the backup

[pulsar mural]

who did u write this document for

[pulsar mural]

it seems very formal

[runic wind]

For you

[sonic coral]

But fuck em I’m at G now

[runic wind]

Imho trading firms respond really quickly when you tell them about competing offers lol

Like they really don't like losing, I guess

[sonic coral]

But yeah holy shit does recruiting wear you down, I can’t imagine what the 2023 grads are going through with all the freezes

Hey I respect em for giving resume rejects within 3 business days

[runic wind]

7hrs for me

They probably have a person specifically to reject me

The Bob rejecter ™️

[sonic coral]

Holy fuck you had way more offers than I thought

I thought you had like 3-5

I don’t think anyone will top you for 2023 lmao

[slim agate]

its difficult to top that without recession lol

[sonic coral]

lol agreed

The most cracked people last year still had like 7-8 offers I think

IXL OA is way too difficult for what they are

[foggy perch]

i cant believe verse medical is your ideal company

[sonic coral]

My friend got lucky and managed to get them as his only offer because the on-site was reasonable

The dude actually let him submit the solution after the interview

I mean if you had other offers there’s really no point

It’s a solid place to start if you’ve got nothing else tho

From what my friend tells me it seems like he’s actually learning quite a bit so hopping in the future shouldn’t be too hard for him

[runic wind]

Lol why is this so organized
This time I didn't make any sheets at all

[winter loom]

what are you taking?

[sonic coral]

I gave up on my sheet last year after like a few weeks

[runic wind]

Oh last year I made a ton
Tracked everything
But this year

Go to nyc

[sonic coral]

Wait are you 22 or 23 grad

[runic wind]

23

Last year for internships I mean

[sonic coral]

Ah interesting I could’ve sworn I saw you last cycle in 22 grads lol

[crude saffron]

I need dating advice

[sonic coral]

Find fulfilling hobbies and meet people

It’s rng lol

Always has been

[spring tide]

Has anyone interview for American Airlines? For the ADEPT program

[sonic coral]

So find new hobbies or pick up your old ones

[crude saffron]

Jane it is…

Rip

[sonic coral]

Meet up with @verbal sorrel

[runic wind]

Wait did you tell them about your offers before you were screened??

[tall ridge]

Dm

[verbal sorrel]

Wait what

[runic wind]

Ok that is smart

I didn't get to writing that email to radix
Should've tried
Or should try? Idek

[sonic coral]

Chicago gang

[tall ridge]

thats a crazy amount of offers, what school do u go to?

makes sense, do u have any quant names on ur res already

[verbal sorrel]

Oh right

[foggy perch]

actually wait did you have to sign anything special since you are dating someone at a competing firm

for hrt

huh ok

wasn't sure since I know some jobs require you to sign shit if you have a relative in the gov

or something like that

[runic wind]

What about tinder matches

Do you have to sign something if you match with someone who works at hrt

[foggy perch]

the real reason to move to nyc/chicago obviously to farm referrals from tinder matches

so true, clearly it's called linkedin

[crystal granite]

meta laying off thousands this week gg: https://www.wsj.com/articles/meta-is-preparing-to-notify-employees-of-large-scale-layoffs-this-week-11667767794

[left shoal]

🫡

love the fact that im graduating into a complete tech mess

[prime palm]

Just curious but

How come you're still recruiting

Are you gonna take anyone over HRT?

[glad stirrup]

does stripe buy back on-hire stock when employee is leaving

anyone knows about it

[somber oyster]

THanks bro!! It will helps a lot

[tardy geode]

thank you so much @queen valve

[somber oyster]

Did u decide to go HRT?

[glad stirrup]

does stripe buy back on-hire stock when employee is leaving
anyone knows about it

[somber oyster]

Damn... should be u said TC is 400k

[dusty mauve]

so is anyone gonna accept multiple offers and renege later lol

[tardy geode]

whats the break down like ? @queen valve

levels says tc is 500k DAMNNN

[prime palm]

Wtf

FB layoffs coming?

https://twitter.com/jeffhorwitz/status/1589361499965108224?s=46&t=HVKoA2de-PH5_0l5gJunyg

Jeff Horwitz (@JeffHorwitz)

A bit of grim Sunday news: large scale layoffs at Meta start next week, possibly Wednesday.

https://t.co/zSUDtTllWw

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Twitter · Nov 6, 2022, 8:58 PM

[tardy geode]

who said

[foggy perch]

wouldn't be surprising

would be more surprising if there weren't

with how hard fb has been pushing hiring freezes

and other things

[tardy geode]

market be bloated with ex-twitter , ex-metas . I am wondering if i would even get anything

[lament summit]

gl to all the meta folks

[mossy niche]

imagine

taking meta over microsoft

💀

[lament summit]

msft has its own problems tho

layoffs there too

[wind drum]

taking bets on my bloomberg interviewer shows up tomorrow

line is at +200

[lament summit]

LMFAOOO

forward flexibilitiy

0

[fossil jewel]

should be -1

[foggy perch]

also is this bullet point order some sort of tier list 👀

[fossil jewel]

since backwards

[abstract thistle]

Catégories

[foggy perch]

what's the 3rd category

[abstract thistle]

Tech, finance, startup, idk what last is

[foggy perch]

mid companies

oh startups right

[lament summit]

unicorns

[dusty mauve]

i see linkedin posts where a manager is writing to give laid off candidates visibility and the comment sections are flooded with recruiters from good companies

[lament summit]

did u spell cruise wrong or soimethign

[foggy perch]

no it's obviously the french cruise

crusoe

[runic wind]

Are we all just ngmi

[lament summit]

did u use ur hachiyuki email for jobs

LOL

also u p much doxxed urself

ur full government name is there

[fossil jewel]

ex-meta interns will flood ng market, ex-twitter probably the more experienced devs tbh

[foggy perch]

sad

[abstract thistle]

Y school email bad

[foggy perch]

you could've been recognized as a weeb by companies

[runic wind]

I swear school emails are the worst

[foggy perch]

can't believe you self doxxed

[runic wind]

The spam filter on my school email is just so freaking aggressive

[abstract thistle]

They forward it

And u get alumni email I think

[prime palm]

Holy smokes you're a cardigan melon kid

[abstract thistle]

WTF

Shit

[prime palm]

no wonder

[foggy perch]

you can always guess a goated person is from cmu

that or based off the fact they were leetcoding on their daily commute

[prime palm]

No fucking way Datadog also resume rejected you

[fossil jewel]

i couldnt even LC on my commutes

[prime palm]

what's on ur resume

jw

I got rejected with 2x referrals and 2x faangies

o my bad

[fossil jewel]

so weird, i got rejected after Hr screen

[prime palm]

datadog HATES me

[fossil jewel]

1 referral, no faangs

[prime palm]

never interviewed w them in my life on g

[foggy perch]

only fratboys allowed at datadog

[prime palm]

despite 12 apps

[fossil jewel]

i did go to their boba event

and networked

idk if that helped though

[prime palm]

ur outtie omg

[jaunty storm]

Is it me or is new grad quite tough this year?

I was wondering if it's worth delaying and intern again.

[tardy geode]

might have to go to WITCH companies 😭

[jaunty storm]

Despite a stronger resume, I've been getting less call backs.

[fossil jewel]

whats WITCH

[dusty mauve]

what does witch mean

🧙‍♀️

[tardy geode]

Wipro ,Infosys, TCS, Cognizant , Hexaware

[dusty mauve]

is that just like

a buncha mid companies

[fossil jewel]

get your experience and make the jump

[dusty mauve]

that are used to describe a sample of mid companies

[fossil jewel]

nothing wrong with midness if you got bills to pay

[jaunty storm]

Any more companies worth applying to?

[tardy geode]

i am international , if i don't get a job within 90 days after grad date i will have to go back

[fossil jewel]

yeah you cant be selective then

[foggy perch]

more bottom tier because companies are known for bad work conditions

[tardy geode]

i ain't

[jaunty storm]

I know there's so many good ones that fly under the radar like Broadway.

[fossil jewel]

get some job to sponsor and then it helps you

[tardy geode]

in these trying times i just need a company that sponsors , idc about the TC tbh rn

how is 727 for samsara and ebay?

code signal

[dusty mauve]

good enough for ebay

samsara rejects 850s

[tardy geode]

also what's the validity for codesignal scores?

lifetime?

[foggy perch]

varies

some companies only accepts last 3-4 months

other maybe .5-1 year

[tardy geode]

i read somwhere in LC dicussion page that a person got rejected with 757 codesignal

oh

[green bronze]

@queen valve Nice post tbh

[delicate frigate]

Hey guys, quick question, do you need to be in a Uni to apply to New grad positions or can you apply to them after graduating too ?

[green bronze]

Your work ethic cannot be denied but when you said somewhat target school I didn't think you meant N1

[delicate frigate]

( Considering you have < 1 year exp)

[foggy perch]

the classic "I go to a small liberal arts college" (but it turns out to be harvard)

[green bronze]

Regardless, thats a huge victory for you! I'm really proud of you!

Should pin ur post for sanctity

[delicate frigate]

What's so bad about Goldman ?

[foggy perch]

i think they pay decently, I've heard their wlb is rough though

[delicate frigate]

Damn, I interned there earlier this year and it's pretty much my only option for new grad

I am just kinda worried my offer might get rescinded

No idea bout US, but they pay pretty decent in UK atleast

Well yeah lol, average in UK is rather low

[sonic coral]

Welcome to cost centers

Guess how much Goldman pays the bankers / traders on the other hand

[foggy perch]

they're probably making less $ / hr with how much overtime they have though lmao

[sonic coral]

Wait what AWS is literally most of zon’s revenue

Oh lmfao

Yeah AWS do be expensive

[delicate cloak]

anyone know what the 2 hour interview with Palantir after recruiter call entails?

[timber rock]

goldman is like 70k tc in uk

which is rly high for ng

[sonic coral]

True but the few who manage to climb the IB ladder sure do have it good

Most are def overworked tho

[delicate frigate]

Also, if you don't mind me asking, were you able to / tried to apply to Amazon or Microsoft ?

[sonic coral]

And you have to deal with all the banking politics / corporate fuckery

[somber oyster]

ugh meta lay off, twitter lay off, Amazon,Apple,Google freeze....

[delicate frigate]

I see, thanks !

[somber oyster]

If meta and twitter lay off, NG pool gonna be more competitive?

or not really?

[prime palm]

mmm

i guess so

it's a lot of industry hire (swe 1 / 2 etc) being let back into the space

between all the layoffs from all the companies there's like 30k of engineers into the job pool again

only slightly imo

interns not getting returns

and people getting rescinded

will be looking for ng

[somber oyster]

ahhhhh

[somber oyster]

make sense

[dusty mauve]

pretty sure it's just straight up amazon.com

[prime palm]

that's true

but even rn

stripe doing layoffs prob released a lot of stripe interns into ng pool

google is waiting until november to tell interns if they got return or not

so a lot of ex g interns prob released back into the ng pool

[delicate frigate]

Oh wait, those two are different ?

[somber oyster]

google not hiring for early career? they accept applicants around Aug

[prime palm]

actually my friend who interned for G in the summer only started in october thinking he would be fine

so i guess hes back into the pool

xdd

[sonic coral]

No AWS is a HUGE chunk of their revenue bro

[dusty mauve]

it is, but it's not majority

[sonic coral]

Oh interesting

AWS generates only 14% revenue

But 75% of profits

How does that work

[prime palm]

god

[dusty mauve]

yep

[prime palm]

times are tough rn

fucks sake

[sonic coral]

Ohhhh I see

So operating cost of AWS wayyy lower than retail

Yeah makes sense

Wait wtf

How does that operating income chart make any sense

[chilly burrow]

they lose a ton on amazon.com

[sonic coral]

Ohhh I’m an idiot I confused operating income with operating cost

[tardy geode]

ng,experienced everything 😭

[prime palm]

prime isn't profitable

[chilly burrow]

what about op cost for the server infra

[prime palm]

they just do it to prevent other retails from making it big

[sonic coral]

Yeah makes sense

[primal pike]

6 mo exp and im getting more rejections than when 0 exp

[chilly burrow]

market is tuff

[sonic coral]

They basically optimized the living shit out of making it as low cost as humanly possible

[chilly burrow]

interestin

[sonic coral]

I think the revenue dwarfs it tho right

Like it’s a combination of them optimizing the living shit out of costs (F R U G A L I T Y) and the revenues being so fuckin high

Yeah they’re pretty much the dominant cloud provider

Oh damn their lead isn’t as big as I thought

I thought AWS had like 70% market share lmao

Azure catching up huh

I mean can AWS even be used by Chinese companies

Like they banned google

Interesting that tencent / alibaba are so huge then

I mean I guess China prob wants homegrown cloud providers

Makes sense

IBM cloud being higher than OCI is surprising tho

I guess IBM still has a foothold in enterprise

[primal pike]

just got ibm rejected

[mossy niche]

Azure goated

[dawn sequoia]

what position? im still waiting to hear back

also sorry for your loss 😔

[sonic coral]

Yeah azure def catching up fast

[delicate cloak]

is palantir vo basically all sys design?

[lament schooner]

Anyone willing to share their Bloomberg recruiter email? Wanna reach out to another recruiter cause mine's not responsive and I want to get an answer before my other offer's deadline.

[tall ridge]

is bloomberg still giving offers? I just had my first round...

[lament schooner]

I think so

[unique topaz]

who said

[tardy geode]

check dm

[lone rapids]

is palantir VO learning hard? What concepts do they focus on?

[livid turret]

Anyone's bloomberg recruiter is Trevor Bridgepaul?

[winter thistle]

I'd say is the easier one of the interviews. They'll teach you something, think querying languages or concurrency

[wide sage]

What kind of coding problems should I expect in Palantir Karat?

[maiden fable]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1589385251033227264?s=20&t=N3cm1_srJcUU9L8I_pG1-A

The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex)

BREAKING: Facebook's parent company Meta is set to start laying off thousands of employees from this week

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Twitter · Nov 6, 2022, 10:32 PM

[night magnet]

This was inevitable

Glad it’s happening now instead of later

In a twisted way

So the layoffs are over quicker

[dawn sequoia]

hahahaha

[runic wind]

Is kirb okay

[tardy geode]

my friend has a start date in feb , he got a meta rto

[lone rapids]

Thanks

[sonic coral]

@nocturne oriole @steep forge how you guys holding up

[nocturne oriole]

Shitty. That’s like a half dozen news sources confirming layoffs already lol

And internally there has been official communication but it hasnt denied anything

Everyone’s situation is diff but there is a conspiracy related to who’s gonna get laid off and it’s tied to performance ratings. Fortunately I am prob not in that boat due to being new and on a team

But there are new people who didnt get a team and those are up in the air

My money is on yes there will be big layoffs by end of week and it will include swe for sure

You cannot be the worst declining stock in S&P and avoid layoffs

[sonic coral]

you make it through man

[nocturne oriole]

Im tryna not to stress cuz even tho i would likely avoid this round; the market is fucked for everybody for at least the next year so it’s not like anybody has a secure future rn

Just how it works. At this point i just wanna keep this job cuz i genuinely like what I’m doing + learning and in 2 yrs this will make me so good/marketable

[wind drum]

yeah laying off new grads who just started would be kinda fucked

then again i saw lyft do that

[nocturne oriole]

I actually think they are prime targets, they’re a long term investment

[wind drum]

feel like meta is bloated enough to where there's easier fat to trim in other places first

[nocturne oriole]

The metaverse

[vestal pelican]

For some reason I feel like new grads in 2010s were more skilled than new grads in 2020s

[nocturne oriole]

Yea

All 7 of them

[wind drum]

yeah they would def want to hold onto any GEs

[prime palm]

WHAT?

[nocturne oriole]

Lyft and snap at least, cb too

[wind drum]

someone in general chat said they were laid off after 2 months at lyft

[meager moss]

I graduate my master's Aug 2023. Should I begin applying now? Some friends say I'm too late to apply and others say it's too soon 😅 I'm looking for any role in Canada 80k+ remote

[lilac locust]

What company :(

I’m gonna guess mega

Meta

[lilac narwhal]

Does Bloomberg ask system design in on site?

[faint igloo]

dont know if its too late, but for the bigger tech ones its def kinda late

[timber rock]

Yes, some companies are closed already but there are a lot still up

u should start asap

[dawn sequoia]

kirb, when did you grad?

[gaunt shore]

@vital wagon hey can I dm about your final interview experience

[vital wagon]

yea ofc!

[vast rock]

yall for behavioral questions like what do u do if a coworker is blocking u or slowing u down. how do u answer that? try to work with the person? ask others for help? talk to your manager about it?

[primal pike]

sit in corner and cry

[oak patrol]

First you explain your co worker your situation. If it is still not resolved after a few weeks then talk to your manager and sort it out

[nocturne seal]

Did anybody get asked hards for Atlassian phone

[lone rapids]

does roblox VO has system design?

[dawn sequoia]

which article?

F

F

im really curious to see how these companies recover and regrow from all these cuts

laying of thousands of employees in such a short period of time is a huge change in these companies

like how are the next few recruiting seasons gonna look? less new apps/positions than before showing that companies learned not to overhire/hire people that eventually get pip'ed or the same as always or more positions opening like crazy to show they didnt learn anything

mane

i need some investing money

thinking about getting a job as a cashier or somethin to make some money to chuck into a s&p tracker

[stone kettle]

any companies still hiring a lot?

seems like bloomberg is the only one left /;

[random cobalt]

How many offers do you guys have amidst the economic condition and the recession?

[prime palm]

Bro asking "how many" like I'm trying to collect the infinity stones

just want one, brother

😭

[civic summit]

how likely is it layoffs and stuff affect new grads at all these companies 🫥

[steep forge]

Not Gucci at all

Just lay me off alr the suspense is killing me more than the layoff ever will

[marsh sand]

Guys is there webcam for amazon oa

[timber rock]

no

[knotty talon]

Lmao

[prime palm]

It is likely

Affect new grads in what way, do you mean?

In terms of new grads trying to find a job?

[tardy geode]

the market is bloated , it will be extremely competitive than usual to even get a first round i feel

[dense seal]

sounds so sus when u put it like that

[tardy geode]

for companies its like getting ex-meta , ex-twitter etc people for cheap

last year amzn was hiring like crazy than ever

literally there was no bar for hiring

ik people who couldn't even write a proper java program and got into amazon with a 1x30 .

not even waiting for a week for getting the decision

post interview , in like 4-5 hours offer letter

[sage skiff]

Wait fr💀 but I heard they overwork you

[rain patio]

Work life balance at Amazon isn't great

According to people ik who work there

[sage skiff]

I had a mentor from there she told me she works 7 days a week

💀💀

She looked tired af

[uncut umbra]

can confirm as someone who did 995 with some weekend work for 5 weeks through covid to finish my project and still got dicked on intern return offer

team started me late and then roasted the fuck out of me in midpoint evals when I had only spent 7 days with the codebase

[rain patio]

Bruh 💀

Work life bal >>> offer

[marsh sand]

oh wow

[uncut umbra]

ik it's team dependent but like

left a terrible taste in my mouth cause I could have used that time to get an early start on interviewing

[marsh sand]

so is it OA -> onsite?

[marsh sand]

I worked at Amazon as an intern 2 years ago

it was aite

Meta was worse

[cedar bridge]

Anyone who was able to prepone bloomberg onsite due to deadlines?

[uncut umbra]

no they're too backed up atm

in my experience they give you the earliest time

[marsh sand]

is amazon not doing 30-min interviews this year?

wait onsite's only 2x45??

[ebon quiver]

for new grad through student programs yeah

i dont think 1 x 30 really happens anymore

its by and far the 2 hour long ones

[sonic coral]

This channel really just recycles the same convos over and over huh

[late kestrel]

market bad job hard no hope :(

[sonic coral]

Yep thats what I was gonna say too but then I got a sense of deja vu and realized I’ve responded like that dozens of times lmao

^ this is also facts

And it’s not like zon is a sweatshop, you get paid bank and maybe have a chance of getting a worse team but you’re still better off than most people

[cobalt siren]

Anyone have tips for negotiating w BB? Have Atlassian offer that has higher tc bc of stock, do they budge w that or are they looking for higher base competing offer?

[jaunty basalt]

Bro I thot u were done

Y’all break up or something

[quartz vale]

zon freeze sad

[sonic coral]

In this market do you really wanna have more of your tc tied up in stock

[cobalt siren]

Haha no, thought about it a lot and I just couldn’t justify staying in Ohio just to be w her

Like there’s literally nothing here for me aside from her and I just couldn’t do it

[uncut umbra]

what are the main things to note if you're doing sysdesign for a mobile app? I can think of caching api calls locally and making the database nosql but should I track anything else

[cobalt siren]

Since the start she always wanted me to pursue the best place for me which I’m glad

Gotcha, what should I say if they ask for breakdown?

[sage skiff]

Lie

they have no right to ask

[jaunty basalt]

I tried with Atlassian

It won’t work

Cuz the offer is standard

[cobalt siren]

Like you tried negotiating bb with Atlassian offer?

[jaunty basalt]

But could just be my recruiter, they got promoted right after I get lowballed

[cobalt siren]

Hoping for a higher sign on so I can afford to visit gf more often lol

[jaunty basalt]

Not just that bro, I tried using Apple, Microsoft, Amazon etc

[cobalt siren]

Damn

[jaunty basalt]

I must be horrible at negotiating

[cobalt siren]

How did ppl negotiate w final rounds lmaooo

[jaunty basalt]

They knew what they were doing

[cobalt siren]

That’s the one downside I feel like there is to BB compared to Atlassian for example

But personally now that I’m doing long distance I just want to take whatever pays the most just to visit gf more often

And sacrifice whatever interesting work there may be

Yeah all cash base is incredible

@jaunty basalt how has your experience been w bb so far

[jaunty basalt]

In terms of stack, Atlassian has very strong mobile based on my flipbook

[cobalt siren]

Gotcha

[jaunty basalt]

That’s something I don’t see here

Otherwise, ru really trying to do typescript or java

[cobalt siren]

We’re there interesting teams to choose from for bb?

[cobalt siren]

Haha fair

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah, for me at least

[cobalt siren]

Alright reneging Atlassian for sure now lol

Bb doesn’t rescind if you try and negotiate right?

[jaunty basalt]

Bro ur reneging

[cobalt siren]

Yeah I accepted Atlassian way too quick

I have pretty piss poor decision making lol, took me 20 minutes to decide between 2 dishes at a restaurant last night

And then on the other hand I accepted Atlassian in like 2 days time

[jaunty basalt]

Bro I really gotta think about this one too

Just in case u want to go back

[cobalt siren]

Haha yeah

But I feel like I need to at least negotiate now before deadline

Don’t see myself going back tho, I really don’t think I can stay in the Midwest there’s nothing else to do

And fully remote isn’t great for making new friends lol

[jaunty basalt]

No

U don’t get a team yet

Yeah

[cobalt siren]

nope not until like a month or two prior

[jaunty basalt]

I mean there is a completely different process for frontend apparently

But teams all teams are full stack

If not cloud SRE devops

[cobalt siren]

@jaunty basalt im guessing bb is mostly c++?

[jaunty basalt]

Kinda, like if u want it you’ll get it no issues

Out of my training class I’d say most have it

[cobalt siren]

im guessing to use for data stuff?

[crystal steppe]

Quick question: If the job postings is not showing up anymore on Linkedin, but showing on the company's main website. Is the offer still on the table or they're in backlog

[cobalt siren]

gotcha, do you like the team(s) you've been apart of

[brave dirge]

How's promotion at BB? I accepted it way early without negotiating signon

[peak kite]

That feeling when you fuck up a 145k/yr fully remote

[cobalt siren]

@spice fiber mind if I dm?

[winged igloo]

anyone know what SIG SWE full time offer looks like?

[surreal prairie]

how many questions are you expected to answer for bb phone

[timber rock]

it's just 1 now

at least mine was

[cobalt siren]

mine was 2 for phone this year

[surreal prairie]

did a medium + follow up, not sure if thats enough

[brave dirge]

what was the bloodbath?

[lament summit]

im p sure they've slowed down

read the convo

[jaunty basalt]

Why did you originally choose to come here

So you also took bb over msft cuz ur from nyc

[lament summit]

and its also msft

thats before they get amazon

[brave dirge]

I was kinda feeling bad after knowing most of my friends are taking better offers :/ but i guess once market gets better i can just leave. one year doesn't make too much a difference.

[lament summit]

[strange oasis]

whens that gonna happen tho?

[lament summit]

spacex also in redmond

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah no hiding that bro

[lament summit]

redmond is depressing af

[brave dirge]

in a year or so hopefully

[strange oasis]

so is Univeristy of Washington

[strange oasis]

ehhh, I dont know about that. We could see a 5-6 year bear market

how dare you forget nintendo

whats BB?

Black Board?

Black Berry?

[lament summit]

probs target school

[lament summit]

baby boarding

[brave dirge]

if that's the case, bb would be a good shelter

[strange oasis]

Buy Buy Baby?

[lament summit]

baby waterboarding

[west egret]

Define better though. More money? Does WLB match up? Will they be as stable throughout the current market?

[strange oasis]

@FBI

i heard BB wlb isnt the best

[surreal prairie]

i assume tc

[brave dirge]

yeah like money wise lol

[cobalt siren]

really? I heard bb wlb is really good

[strange oasis]

everyone over hired but jobs like recruiters will be most impacted then sales then enginerring

[cobalt siren]

and my bb recruiter just asked for total comp and name of the company for negotioation lol

[west egret]

After taxes, that extra TC won’t be nearly as big of a gap lol

[strange oasis]

MSFT

[surreal prairie]

G

[lament summit]

some teams in azure dont do anythign

[strange oasis]

Took 14 years for MSFT to bounce back to dot com level valuation

[foggy perch]

i doubt google wlb is better than bb on average tbh

[strange oasis]

linkedin has good wlb

overall

[foggy perch]

google cloud probably skews google wlb more on the negative side

[lament summit]

worse than bb?

LOL

[deep wasp]

Ironic

[west egret]

How is Oracle WLB?

[lament summit]

oci is shit, oracle rest n vest

[west egret]

Worth interviewing if I already signed with BB?

[lament summit]

absolutely not

[foggy perch]

doubtful

[surreal prairie]

lol

[foggy perch]

unless oci maybe?

[lament summit]

nope

[west egret]

Okay I’ll just chill then lol

[foggy perch]

maybe oci pay is good enough

oh

[lament summit]

oci had layoffs

[foggy perch]

f

[lament summit]

i would not go

oracle is general is just so boomer

[foggy perch]

i'm just so sad I never got to nego my bb offer up since I got perma amazon waitlisted

my one tragedy of the recruiting process

[lament summit]

couldve lied

[foggy perch]

wouldn't want to risk the off chance I get rescinded or called out lmao

[lament summit]

could ask one of the millions of ngs for their offer letter

[west egret]

Same with me

[foggy perch]

since they would've wanted to see offer letter

[west egret]

I just took their initial offer because I had no competing offer that matched

[foggy perch]

i'm just treating this as motivation to tryhard and speedrun job hopping

[west egret]

If Oracle contacted me earlier, I would have tried to expedite just to negotiate with Bb

[foggy perch]

since I have no 2 year sign on to handcuff me

[lament summit]

oracle or oci

[west egret]

Oracle

[brave dirge]

oh sign on's for 2 years? i feel better now lol

[lament summit]

then thats gonna b lower than bb

no point

[brave dirge]

yeah same here. ready to hop anytime

[west egret]

Really? I feel like I saw 190k on levels but those might be from negotiated offers

[lament summit]

yeah most likely

[west egret]

I’ve also only done like 1 LC every 3 days since my BB VO lmao

[foggy perch]

i'm pretty sure bloomberg signon requires you to work there 2 years

else you repay a portion based off how early you left

[nocturne seal]

Does Atlassian ask behaviorals for phone

[west egret]

I know relocation has 2 year requirement but 10k over 2 years is pretty much nothing

[jaunty basalt]

It’s also how long you’ve been

So one year latter you pack back half if u leave

[west egret]

Yeah

I don’t even see myself spending remotely close to 10k(even pre-tax) for relocation

[azure zephyr]

you'd be surprised

[west egret]

I don’t really have many physical things I’d carry with me

[azure zephyr]

me too, but with furnishing a place its gonna be expensive

[west egret]

I’d be buying some apartment essentials but nothing that gets to 10k after tax

Yeah I guess I go lighter on furniture than most ppl

[azure zephyr]

desk set up alone im prob gonna spend close to 1k

[brave dirge]

if you rent a place you'd have basic furniture set up there already right

[west egret]

I think I'm just getting a Bekant desk from ikea lol