2023_grads

[ebon quiver]

i got shit tomorrow breh

guess its time for bed

[wintry sedge]

inshallah 🙏

[teal jackal]

fr

nah not me

[thick shell]

I didn't apply yet I saw it on Linkedin. Gonna tweak the resume then apply to see what this challenge is about

[teal jackal]

honestly always will be glad for the careers chat communities, seeing other people succeed was a wakeup call to take responsibility and take action on my dreams
it taught me that my goal in life isnt gonna magically come to me
but at the same time, that goal is within reach

[dusky plover]

HUHHH???

[outer radish]

has anyone gone through the process with samsara?

[teal jackal]

nope.avi not me

[dusky plover]

if lc is down use the chinese leetcode

lintcode

[tawdry skiff]

Me during my on site

[dusky plover]

whatever you do, suggest using a hashmap

[teal jackal]

does ramp not send confirmation emails after submitting the app

[coarse kraken]

Can someone please help me with the ramp question?

I decoded the string from base64, what could I do next?

[hasty birch]

Look closely at the query parameter

[teal jackal]

im tempted to submit twice to ramp since im paranoid about no confirmation email

[teal jackal]

sorry but theres no confirmation email right

my ocd ass worried i never submitted

[hasty birch]

Seems that way based on a reddit post, but I haven't submitted yet

Trying to get all 4 flags

[floral plank]

Could you do better?

[teal jackal]

do i resubmit for ramp or nah

im paranoid i forgot to submit

[hasty birch]

Nah

[teal jackal]

y not

yeah im probably ooverthinking it

why do so many people DM for the ramp CTF

i mute them now tbh

[teal jackal]

can u screenshot what the confirmation page looks like when u submit

and send it to me

im still paranoid i forgot to submit

[hasty birch]

Sure

[teal jackal]

thanks man

[tawdry skiff]

No

I peaked in middle school

[floral plank]

rejected then sorry

[teal jackal]

Bro this is mad funny

[teal jackal]

Same

Not even ironic haha

[old smelt]

willing to share first 3 flags on Ramp OA if someone has the /stream flag, cant figure it out

[split plaza]

3/4 is probably fine tbh

[hasty birch]

I'm missing browser flag

[old smelt]

dm?

[teal jackal]

Really easy if you know what a user agent within an HTTP request is

[dawn sequoia]

whos still hiring?

aka not in a freeze or laying off ppl

[wicked rivet]

i didnt and i just googled it lol

just finished, was fun after you get past initial hurdle

[sullen axle]

yeah after the initial hurdle it's much better

[calm blade]

can anyone personally recommend a good system design youtuber
for beginners

[hasty birch]

I did not get email confirmation @teal jackal

[somber oyster]

What should I do for Ramp question..?

[hasty birch]

Scroll up lol, there's a lot of good info here

[somber oyster]

WTH is this lol

[low scroll]

how do you even find these flags

[old smelt]

sql injection, take a look at the original URL and see how you can modify the SQL to gather other data

[split plaza]

That’s a pretty big hint imo, realizing it’s even a SQL statement isn’t necessarily obvious

[nimble shore]

just get enough characters u need and combine into a legal word:)

not a big deal

[latent sun]

bro at this point

might as well leak

the flags

[split plaza]

I mean

The flags themselves change periodically

[latent sun]

right but the approaches

[split plaza]

leaking the approaches precisely is literally just self-sabotage lol

Idk why you would do that

[latent sun]

yeah

[clear stone]

for amazon OA (new grad) if i received part 2 does that mean i passed part 1? (asking cause i'm pretty sure did not do that good on part 1)

[latent sun]

this ramp pre-OA is inherently flawed

like

[sullen axle]

This

[latent sun]

hmm not if youre not an applicant

but still

this pre-oa

lowk feel it is very very unfair

Retool used to be like this (in 2021) but they changed to a more leetcode style approach. Since they realized that new grads focused mainly on LC and it was deemed unfair

I really liked Airtables approach tbh

[low scroll]

yeah tf is this bruh

i aint ever come across anything like this

[fallen fox]

when did you get part 1

[nova reef]

@peak reef which last question did you get? the network one?

yea the question description is so poor and I hate how they ask us to handle input output ourselves

2 mc + 3 coding

yea

sure

[clear stone]

i just completed it and sent me part 2 after like an hour

[fallen fox]

no i just applied

idk if they are even sending oas

did you apply in october?

smh i got confused lmao both you have the same profile pic

[clear stone]

got it since early october. even extended it cause i was feeling sick. did it this night and received part 2 an hour after completing it

[fallen fox]

when did you apply tho?

[clear stone]

late september

[fallen fox]

did you use referral?

[clear stone]

nope

my resume is bad lol.

[fallen fox]

last sept apply and early oct OA that was quick

[clear stone]

i do have one intern experience

[fallen fox]

maybe i have a chance

[clear stone]

for some reason I always get the oa faster than average. Dont' know why

[fallen fox]

what school?

[clear stone]

ut san antonio

[obsidian quartz]

I received the email about OA2 (Work Simulation and Workstyles Assessment) after completing OA1 for the Amazon's New Grad SDE position . Can you give me some suggestions/tips/tricks or guides to follow so that I can ace this test?

[fallen fox]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/principles

[obsidian quartz]

Thank you. Yeah I know about this. However isn't there anything like Blind 75/150 lists with most common questions/scenarios or anything about the approaches?

[fallen fox]

oa2 is behavioral only, no coding

^

[obsidian quartz]

Any links for suggestions or guide?

[marsh sand]

Would y’all take amazon in a heartbeat

If y’all got an offer

Or wait for bb or palantir

[chilly burrow]

I would wait until the deadline

Then just accept and reneg if smth better comes along

[timber rock]

bro i got twosum on expedia final

💀

rn

[karmic harness]

at 6am u got a 2sum question on expedia final

thats kinda crazy

they started that early

[lime current]

got all 4 flags for ramp lol

that was a fun CTF

[timber rock]

11am here mate

[marsh sand]

omg that's actual poggers lmao

did anyone here graduate last year?

[teal jackal]

thanks man

[cerulean tangle]

Anyone who did Doordash technical, how long did it take to hear back?

[narrow hollow]

I haven't heard back yet. But out of curiosity, how long have you been waiting? I did mine on Thursday.

[cerulean tangle]

@narrow hollow yesterday

[timber rock]

just fucked the bb phone interview lol

[lilac locust]

How

[timber rock]

i got some dynamic programming shit

and idk how to do dynamic programming

💀

30 mins in the guy pretty much just gives me the formula so i can code it

[glass knoll]

is this vo or phone?

[timber rock]

phone

[teal jackal]

[timber rock]

its ok tho expedia final went really well

[teal jackal]

[slender apex]

yo can i dm for some help plz

[obsidian dome]

how many final do u have for Expedia?

[timber rock]

2 rounds

i did them both today

[obsidian dome]

lit

[teal jackal]

Yes

[faint igloo]

Lmao

[errant karma]

Some people just care about the money I guess

[native lantern]

damn

i just want palantir and nothing else 😭

[teal jackal]

i was a palantir simp before i got rejected

now im back to thinking that palantir is a terrible company complacent with building a tech dystopia

amazon is like the border between moral and immoral

i think amazon treats warehouse crew like theyre disposable, which is horrible

but at the same time i guess just because amazon does that doesnt make it a core persnality trait of the company

i heard about palantir predictive policing, the EPITOME of big brother

do u have a return offer

or got cucked too

i worked on the ecommerce platform

nice

[runic wind]

Why bb when aws

[teal jackal]

ig not everyone wanna work at aws

o

canada

that makes sense

are u gonna get the F visa thingy at bloomberg

i think canadians get special visas to work here

oh yeah

that

sick

[faint igloo]

Is bb all cash

[nocturne oriole]

Cope + mid tier offers + mid tier looks + low tier ethics

Im jk u are entitled to think that lolol

[runic wind]

Start of a great Isekai anime tbh

[nocturne oriole]

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books

U gonna be drippiest guy in canada or least drippy in east coast

Hi its me ur friend

[late kestrel]

ewwwwwwwwww kentucky

[uncut umbra]

seinen jump > shonen jump

[late kestrel]

yeah but it dont matter

its kentucky 🤢

[uncut umbra]

cheddy is from kansas

idk if that's a real rivalry

isekai jump >>>>> seinen jump

HAREM JUMP-

[late kestrel]

we just passed them in all time ncaa basketball wins this past year

but yeah history goes way back

arguably top two all time

and normally very good every year

college sports are literally the best thing ever 😤

sports wise*

yeah its gonna be something imma miss a lot for sure

pro sports just dont have the same atmosphere

yeahhh thats just how most regular season games go in pro sports

tickets are crazy expensive these days anyways

ong imma be a knicks fan cuz we dont have a pro nba team

and theyre not that good so its not bandwagoning

[uncut umbra]

check out the 2021 playoffs

knicks made the playoffs for the first time in like over half a decade and with a rising julius randle

get a win at home in game 2 iirc and the crowd is going nuts

then trae young puts them on ice for 3 games straight

[uncut umbra]

get ready for decades of suffering

the knicks haven't won since 1973

despite having hofers since then, like bernard king, patrick ewing and carmelo anthony

dubious handles might be my favorite diss in the nba

[late kestrel]

its ok ive had a world series win, a super bowl, and a bball natty within the past 7 years

so thats enough winning for now 🙂

[uncut umbra]

lmao

have fun

although I'm a nets fan so I can't really talk too much shit

[sharp stream]

Anyone know what the Atlassian interview screen is like?

(Thing after the hacker tank)

[uncut umbra]

wayup: your handpicked jobs are in!!
me: handpicked by the hunchback of notre dame?

[compact sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755398174734024759/818529783360651264/a112d31cc6582db3fd1e2b68f9fc86d4033c24f7bda4eb293953fee657447225_1.gif

[native lantern]

what else is there lol

[cold kernel]

🧑‍🦯

[uncut umbra]

onsite is the decomp + learning right?

ok fun

onsite and then hm round I think

what's in the hm round at palantir

is it mostly a formality

[lone rapids]

No

[uncut umbra]

wait the onsite? decomp and learning isn't leetcode

afaik

[wind drum]

yeah hm is usually behavioral + your weakest technical

[uncut umbra]

oh very cool

[wind drum]

unless you got 3/3 karat and did onsite

well

you would still have behavioral part of hm

[uncut umbra]

I only had time to do two because the engineer wanted me to explain my thoughts for each like of code and took 5 minutes to explain everything

the 3 questions weren't even that bad I was just manually slowed down

5 minutes per question to explain

[rustic vessel]

That’s pretty good for karat

My interviewer had me sit there for like 15 mins explaining each one

[uncut umbra]

I did that and was ready to start the second she finished

but after each line I wrote that wasn't trivial she'd ask me to explain what that's doing

so I took 15 minutes to write up like 20 lines of code for the first one and then had to burn rubber to finish the second in time

and for the third one I wrote out pseudocode to finish it

cause I knew how to do it but she was just forcing me to slow down

lmao time to get dicked

that's what this season is basically

[torn escarp]

Just got a hr call from Palantir saying that the org I’m interviewing for is full

[rustic vessel]

I have HM tomorrow 🙏

[floral plank]

On average how long does it take to hear back from BB after em?

It has been a week for me now

[wind drum]

which org

[ruby epoch]

anyone doing Atlassian final today

[torn escarp]

Production infra

[wind drum]

fuck im like 90% sure that's the one i matched w

[rustic vessel]

How do you know you matched with them

[wind drum]

for vo prep they sent me a white paper about production infra org

[torn escarp]

Dang. Why is everyone matched with production infra

[rustic vessel]

LOL GG

I thought I’d be matched with them but didn’t get that white paper

Didn’t get anything in fact

[torn escarp]

The org name will be in ur hm interview invitation

[clever orbit]

I'm seeing posts like this: https://leetcode.com/discuss/interview-question/2412776/Bloomberg-1st-phone-screen . Is asking two questions + asking questions the same type after the second

[late kestrel]

depends on how fast your recruiter can touch base with all your interviewers... but a week is usually as long as it takes. i did see someone earlier in here get an offer two weeks later tho

[rustic vessel]

Just says video interview confirmation

[torn escarp]

Sorry. I meant the confirmation email they sent after you schedule the interview

[rustic vessel]

That is the one where I got confirmed scheduled date

[torn escarp]

Let me double check

[rustic vessel]

Let’s take a guess if my bb interviewer shows up

[torn escarp]

My bad. It was included in the recruiter email after the vo

[rustic vessel]

Yes guess I won’t know until day of LOL

[torn escarp]

Palo Alto

[floral plank]

Yea it is strange. My recruiter said I will hear back by end of last week during my hr interview.

[late kestrel]

maybe you have an em or other interviewer on vaca 🥲

[wind drum]

ah ok my location is nyc maybe there's hope

[torn escarp]

they switched me to a different org, but I'm not sure how that will affect my hm interview. cuz my experience is more aligned with production infra

[worn sorrel]

I have an upcoming final 60 minute interview with them sometime next week. Is there any advice or practice I can work on? Much appreciated.

[torn escarp]

interesting. what org are u matched with? I basically told my interviewers that I'm interested in infrastructure and maybe that's taken into consideration?

[signal ore]

Anybody know if there are companies that will take interns after they have graduated? My full time starts in August and I need something to do

[azure zephyr]

if you know your STAR method you should be totally fine. all the questions i got were behavioral and i think its that way for most ppl as well

[wind drum]

generally startups and companies w less structure will

[uncut umbra]

same, it was 75 mins of behavioral cause they had a ton of followup questions so have water on hand

but otherwise it's just behavioral

[torn escarp]

icic

[jaunty basalt]

Wait GM wasnt two hours of behavioral for you?

[split plaza]

god damn I'm still kinda bitter about the whole Palantir process

[night magnet]

what happened

[night magnet]

lmaoo what mine was like 25 mins (4 questions of behavioral, no technical)

[split plaza]

reject after good HM

like many others apparently

[night magnet]

😔

[jaunty basalt]

Bro mine was 2hrs for no reason

[torn escarp]

do u know which org u got matched with?

[split plaza]

no

[pale kettle]

who is your recruiter ?

[strange ore]

anybody know HRT codesignal floor

[late kestrel]

hardwood

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-bolt-dancing-joy-cheer-happy-gif-26495619

[late kestrel]

thats in the bathroom

[strange ore]

cscareers comedians

my favorite disc

[late kestrel]

ok bye thanks @misty thunder

[last summit]

I got rj with 847 🥲

[strange ore]

bruh

O makes sense

[strange ore]

847 tho… how much time did you have left when you submitted?

[teal jackal]

ok that makes sense

[strange ore]

that’s a crazy good score

[teal jackal]

palantir host matches after recruiter call

i apparently didnt get matched to any team

[last summit]

1, 7, 12, 5 mins spent on each question

[strange ore]

holee

[floral plank]

Tbh idek I have 2

Who is the one supposed to reach out for offer?

[young peak]

Your latest

[uneven grove]

lol rip I also got a white paper about production infra

[young peak]

For me it's always been the latest

[uneven grove]

for palantir

[pale kettle]

is one the scheduler and one the recruiter ?

[young peak]

Sometimes there are multiple recruiters

One that reaches out, one that settles the offer etc

[narrow hollow]

did anyone who filled out the ebay form to schedule a final interview, ever receive a confirmation about an exact date?

[floral plank]

One scheduled my first phone and hr +em and one did my hr interview and scheduled on campus interview. Mine was NB.

[young peak]

That last one is gonna be the one to hand the offer

What company btw

[split plaza]

My suitemates got a hedgehog

[floral plank]

BB

[pale kettle]

was either of the matthew?

[young peak]

Ah good luck! Offers are pretty good this year

Shoot for the moon, don't be afraid to nego like crazy

220k isn't impossible 🙂

[floral plank]

I don't have competing offers though

I did just be happy enough to get it

[torn escarp]

does duolingo call to reject?

[lone rapids]

Sde or fdse?

Also new grad chooses an org?

[torn escarp]

sde

[lone rapids]

Fuck

[young peak]

I didn't either buddy

[lone rapids]

I have my call tme

[torn escarp]

for hm?

[lone rapids]

Nope lol recruiter

[lone rapids]

I’m screwed?

[uneven grove]

Hmm I have my on-site this Friday and I got the white paper for product infra. Does that mean I’ll be auto rejected because it’s full?

[torn escarp]

u should be fine i think

[lone rapids]

But you said full

[torn escarp]

nah I think they are gonna switch u to a different org

[uneven grove]

Yeah that’s what I’m hoping

[torn escarp]

i got switched to a different org

[lone rapids]

Nice. U got the offer? Edit i see u got hm interview.

[torn escarp]

Nope. Honestly I feel like hm seems hard lol so I don't have high hopes

[lone rapids]

U had a coding round in Vo or just decomp and learning?

[torn escarp]

just decomp and learning

[lone rapids]

Cool good luck

[torn escarp]

tyty!

[rustic vessel]

Wowee bb interviewer showed up

[strange ore]

huge

[young peak]

Bloomberg really over hiring this cycle lmao

G did that last year and now we're "sharpening focus"

[teal jackal]

Out of all the applicants how many applications end with offers anyways

Might just be that Bloomberg is taking on a lot of people in the pipeline

[young peak]

For BB? Tons bro. They give you an offer this early in the season for a reason. It's to hope that you're desperate or lazy enough to just accept it at first glance. Now people actually ARE desperate so they're 100% over hiring

[wind drum]

nah they just scheduled my hm round today and i think it's product infra, it might be a palo alto only thing

[uneven grove]

Ahh ok I guess no point in worrying about it

[teal jackal]

I see, I hope they still proceed with people still in the pipeline tbh

[young peak]

Yeah Im also hoping for y'all that the pipeline stays stable for folks already in it

Headcount might not be too high so it's honestly just first come first serve

[teal jackal]

I know c1 stopped accepting apps a long time ago since their offer accept rate is crazy rn

And their pipeline is filled to the brim

[compact vortex]

does c1 negotiate?

[teal jackal]

Idk

Honestly Bloomberg and C1 are gonna be filled with a lot of REALLY talented mfs this year

[sour night]

Some EM said that BB hires like crazy during recessions/when markets are down

[teal jackal]

I see

[teal jackal]

I am not that talented

Tbh my skill level and intelligence are probably average for cscd standards

[cobalt siren]

Previous bb cycle looks similar to last year no?

I thought cscareers dev has more bb offers from 2021 than 2022

[jaunty basalt]

Yes but it’s all Copium bro

2023 grads are gonna pass the Copium blunt to 2024 grads

But also its only November

[young peak]

To chain you for 2 years, and also because BB is recession proof

[cobalt siren]

True, heard that they’re nearing hc tho

Just w rumor

[jaunty basalt]

Even the process itself seemed to change

Some people just didn’t get a technical phone screen, and that’s not just this year

Others have in person interviews

[marsh sand]

Has anyone interviewed w jane street

what do they ask? like codeforces algo?

[lament summit]

[marsh sand]

this doe... makes me even sadder cuz i had an amazon return offer for 2021 and i had to go to army

im back and now economy ded

[lament summit]

why did u have to go to army

[marsh sand]

south korean... mandatory military service for all men

[lament summit]

oh

rip

[bold pier]

Any hint for Ramp /hash question?

[marsh sand]

rip 😦

[lament summit]

🫡

[marsh sand]

🫡

interned at Meta this summer

Meta rekt all interns except for early joiners

[lament summit]

did u email ur amazon recruiter

tell them that

might give u an exception

[marsh sand]

i did and they told me to reapply today

[knotty talon]

Where do you see that again?

[lament summit]

https://www.cscareers.dev/process-tracking/2022-new-grad

[marsh sand]

so im reapplying today 😦

[knotty talon]

Ty

[marsh sand]

this year the only pog company is like Bloomberg

and even then the offer # is so low

[jaunty basalt]

They’re are plenty of pog companies

They just don’t give interviews

Also 2022 grad, look at the amount of offers

Not a lot

U can’t say <20 is a lot

[tawdry skiff]

Sorry the only pog company is the one that gives me 600k

[marsh sand]

only pog is like

rentech

[jaunty basalt]

I think the biggest two are google and Microsoft

[marsh sand]

are they hiring ngs this year?

[jaunty basalt]

No that’s why I said that

[marsh sand]

😦

[tawdry skiff]

Bring hope up

[marsh sand]

i did

and meta kicked me out

[tawdry skiff]

Just to bring it down

[jaunty basalt]

Chaewon has a company

[marsh sand]

maybe I should apply as like

SM's frontend developer

[tawdry skiff]

Y'all keep taking about chaewon

Bruh they are not of age

[marsh sand]

채원?

[tawdry skiff]

Yes

[lament summit]

cant forget meta

meta hired crazy

[vestal pelican]

Has anyone negotiated with BB here?

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah true

But just looking at process after them there’s a few ~30

[teal jackal]

2022 was so kickass

[jaunty basalt]

And then that’s it

[next kelp]

lmao expedia gave me a verbal and said we will wait to see if we overextended the earlier offers so please hold

like I haven't already waiting a month 💀

[vestal pelican]

Yea but 2022 grads stock options suck

[night magnet]

wtff

this is the worst season all time since when?

like 08-09?

[lament summit]

dotcom

[night magnet]

L

[marsh sand]

<

[teal jackal]

i just want a job

the stock options dont matter to me

its harder to just find a job at all

at the moment

[marsh sand]

i just dont want to get kicked out of this country

[teal jackal]

do u have a green card or nah

or do u need sponsorship

[lament summit]

go marry someone

[marsh sand]

im in uk

w visa

[teal jackal]

are ur a UK student

[weary flax]

who tryna marry

[marsh sand]

yup

[teal jackal]

do u want to stay in the uk

[weary flax]

ur really serving ur username huh

[marsh sand]

no LMAO but im staying here for 2-3 years for my gf to finish her degree

[lament summit]

is ur gf a citizen

or also on visa

[teal jackal]

huh

ohhhhh

yeah id slut for free lunch at work

fr

on jah

[lament summit]

p sure strippers get free lunch at work

[weary flax]

ooh

part time swe full time stripper

here i come

wait that sounds wrong in the context, nvm

[marsh sand]

also on visa 😦

[marsh sand]

filet 'o fish

[lament summit]

time to find a different girl

[uncut umbra]

sorry what context

[marsh sand]

exactly

[outer radish]

anyoen recommend a good ATS scanner site?

[uncut umbra]

172 offers at google what the fuck

[outer radish]

bout to put some more keywords in this bih

[uncut umbra]

copy your pdf into a google doc

[outer radish]

like highlight everything and ctrl+v into a google doc?

[uncut umbra]

yes

[chilly burrow]

That is not what an ATS does

[uncut umbra]

that's the advice I was given to check ats of my resumes

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly burrow]

None exist, just use Jake's Resume or Awesome-CV

[chilly burrow]

Bad advice then

[uncut umbra]

maybe

[chilly burrow]

It is

[uncut umbra]

okei

this season is hell anyway

what's one more piece of bad advice

[jaunty basalt]

Oh yeah I saw a vid from a msft employee

About copy pasting

Into doc

As if that works

Garbo advice

[chilly burrow]

That's a dum take. Y ruin your chances further?

[uncut umbra]

I mean nothing I can do about it now

I've done most of the apps I'm gonna do

[tawdry skiff]

What you do is you get list of target schools for x company

[chilly burrow]

You hav an offer so I guess you're fine

[cobalt siren]

You guys are typing your resumes?

[tawdry skiff]

Copy and paste 1pt white font in bottom of resume

[lament summit]

u guys have resumes?

[uncut umbra]

eh, it's not an offer I'm a fan of

I have to accept it today but I don't really want it

[jaunty basalt]

I was excited for sage advice

[lament summit]

i just tell recruiters my dad is elon musk

[uncut umbra]

you of all people /s

[chilly burrow]

Accept and reneg

[uncut umbra]

yeah that's the plan, but still, no more apps. just interviews to worry about

[tawdry skiff]

Reneg dn

[lament summit]

sign when

im asking u everyday

[azure zephyr]

atlassian deadass just gave me a question that they usually ask sde2 lmaooo

[lament summit]

pltr?

[uncut umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813173506762080306.webp?size=48

[jaunty basalt]

How do you know

[lament summit]

[cobalt siren]

Ripppp what question?

[jaunty basalt]

[cobalt siren]

Oh wait best not to do that here

[lament summit]

hrt > js or js > hrt?

[outer radish]

yeah thats my template rn

[lament summit]

or hrt == js

[tawdry skiff]

Money

[cobalt siren]

Everyone I talked to got a pretty simple question for Atlassian

[wind drum]

my interviewer said the same thing but he said expectations are lower for ng

[uncut umbra]

if you have both it's a personal preference lol

[tawdry skiff]

The answer is money

[outer radish]

but when I just did the google copy pastet thing its not capturing the names of the comapnies I worked for

[chilly burrow]

Den u should b fine

[outer radish]

outside of amazon

[lament summit]

yeah cuz i totally have both

[jaunty basalt]

But wasn’t it all LC for the technicals

[lament summit]

sit nerds ill be swimming in cash

[jaunty basalt]

Idk what makes it SDE II

If u got system design then maybe

[cobalt siren]

Yeah maybe sys design

[tawdry skiff]

I got dn

[cobalt siren]

Someone I talked to was an outlier and got sys design too for their phone

[jaunty basalt]

For me I got system design

Cuz it says it

[lament summit]

if hrt, houshold tc 1m+

[jaunty basalt]

In the flip book

Ur supposed to get it

[cobalt siren]

No sys design for our interviews tho

[obsidian dome]

basically they are full?

[cobalt siren]

Explicitly at least

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah lucky

[lament summit]

boat party when

[jaunty basalt]

My flip books literally said it

[cobalt siren]

Atlassian seemed to lower the bar this year

Not that I’m complaining

[tawdry skiff]

JAPAN MEETUP WHEN

[jaunty basalt]

Seems like it but I wouldn’t say so

[lament summit]

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz that’s everyone else’s cope

[tawdry skiff]

UNITE KOREAS OR DELETE TAIWAN

[uncut umbra]

me every time I enter an interview

[jaunty basalt]

I never talk about the bar, everyone is a lightweight

[cobalt siren]

They cut down sys design and other interviews so I feel like it’s a fair assessment

[jaunty basalt]

I guess but idek the LC u got asked

For me it was mediums

[tawdry skiff]

@nocturne oriole

[lament summit]

while everyone raised it

[jaunty basalt]

Not tagged

And I got system design but the expectations were high

[cobalt siren]

For my 2 technicals I got lc tagged for both so it was pretty simple for me

[jaunty basalt]

I got two system design

[wind drum]

they might have just found asking sys design to new grads was worthless

[uncut umbra]

for atlassian?

[cobalt siren]

I just magically knew all the answers somehow

[uncut umbra]

they keep on telling me my app is in review lmao

[lament summit]

nice hax

[uncut umbra]

me at bb /s

[cobalt siren]

I wish this was generally the case

[jaunty basalt]

I don’t think it’s completely worthless

[cobalt siren]

Wait I never encountered a sys design question what I’m a saying lol

[jaunty basalt]

Like don’t expect a lot

[cobalt siren]

I feel like it should be a way of seeing problem solving

[jaunty basalt]

But it’s all about approaching a project

[cobalt siren]

And not necessarily how accurate it is

[jaunty basalt]

It’s a discussion anyways

[uncut umbra]

if you're asking sysdesign of new grads, you can't expect them to be right

or to get high levels of detail

[jaunty basalt]

Like based on your experience how would you build this project with whatever technologies ur familiar with

Yeah exactly

It’s not meant to confuse you

[uncut umbra]

but an intelligent discussion where they're rationally building up ideas and then playing off of the interviewer's suggestions ought to be the point

[cobalt siren]

Idk how they expect you to know more than just throwing a load balancer to scale lol

[cobalt siren]

Exactly

[jaunty basalt]

That’s not how it works

[cobalt siren]

I wouldn’t know anyways haha

[jaunty basalt]

Like u s don’t just jump into load balancers out of context

[wind drum]

i remember for my intern sys design for atlassian they were asking me what load balancer algorithm i would use

[cobalt siren]

My Cisco Meraki interview last year was great we basically paid programmed

[lament summit]

lowkey sys design so easy compared to LC

[uncut umbra]

you paid a programmer to do your interview?

[cobalt siren]

Well that’s what I would do if I got asked one right now LOL

[lament summit]

huh

[jaunty basalt]

Nah no way, you’d stick to what you know

[uncut umbra]

load balancer for high server volume if that's expected and caching results on the user's end are good general ideas to have

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz the system design follow ups be brutal

[uncut umbra]

it obvs depends on what the system actually is

[cobalt siren]

If someone asked me to run a lemonade stand I’d just answer with load balancer

[outer radish]

what are ya'llstudying for sys design

[vestal pelican]

did you get a BB offer

[cobalt siren]

Works for any question

[outer radish]

I was planning on buying grokking the system design interview

[jaunty basalt]

U could say a bad idea and then say why it’s bad but u know about it right

[uncut umbra]

no clue haven't started

[jaunty basalt]

Better than not knowing about the bad design choice

[uncut umbra]

I mean that is literally how fairly oddparents handles the lemonade stand episode lmfaoooo

[uncut umbra]

not yet

don't take it in the spring with satya tho

you'll end yourself

[west egret]

is load balancer the hash map of sys design?

[uncut umbra]

yessir

ik, glad you didn't have to do it with satya lmao

spring was also the hell sem

trust me

[jaunty basalt]

Idk any school with any easy distributed systems course

[west egret]

What school is this?

[tawdry skiff]

Hell semester?

[jaunty basalt]

That’s oxymoron

[uncut umbra]

we had almost as many bad scheduling decisions and then we were curved down

[jaunty basalt]

[lament summit]

cmu

[tawdry skiff]

Hell year

[cobalt siren]

Anyone fearful of accidentally failing a class and getting offer reminded

[tawdry skiff]

[cobalt siren]

Rescinded

[marsh sand]

anyone a fan of newjeans here

[uncut umbra]

nah it was rough

[marsh sand]

hype boy

[uncut umbra]

especially when we were refused help in OH

and then again, we were curved down

[cobalt siren]

Rather not being able to graduate on time lol

[lament summit]

must b nice to be that smart and go to cmu

[uncut umbra]

I should have gotten a higher grade than I did but the cutoff was like 4 points above the grade boundaries

[uncut umbra]

trust me I'm not smart lmao

[lament summit]

smarter than me

[floral plank]

Me

[uncut umbra]

you found your job lmao

I'm still searching

[lament summit]

thats just luck

[uncut umbra]

bb isn't scheduling my em round

[vestal pelican]

anyone here negotiate with bb? I was wondering how much increase would bb give for the base offer at google

[uncut umbra]

I want to end

[jaunty basalt]

Nah

There some skill in passing interviews

[lament summit]

1% skill, 99% luck

[cobalt siren]

There’s skill in acting like I don’t know a tagged problem

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah Oscar winning performances

Acting is a real job

[cobalt siren]

Hmm idk, maybe I’ll do a sliding window technique, not like I even know what that is

[lament summit]

oh wow what a tough question

[tardy geode]

btw is smartrecruiter portal of any use?

[jaunty basalt]

That’s woke

[floral plank]

Just act stupid at first and then somehow come up with optimal solution

[uncut umbra]

this is how I did bb vo1

[outer radish]

"Hmm, of course we can always iterate through all the subarrays, but what if we apply two pointer from grokking section 2.2"

[uncut umbra]

I had an idea that was kinda right at the beginning

and then I worked my way to the solution I knew ahead of time

[jaunty basalt]

Yea I have to really play the role

Character development wins the heart of the audience

This is why U have offers

Maybe me watching YT videos and explaining the exact same thing to other ppl works

[uncut umbra]

big advantage

shouldn't have TAed 213 and 150 I should have focused on 122 and 210

objectively lesser numbers

maybe I'll apply next sem and forget SML for a third year in a row

[west egret]

Bro don’t let out the secret lmao

[uncut umbra]

both at the same time lmao

[faint narwhal]

Well thats super discouraging cause i had my final 3 weeks ago but the first round got interrupted by a fire alarm and it took them 3 weeks today to reschedule 😀

[uncut umbra]

r/w copies?

like storing copies of the main node on other nodes?

and then using callbacks to update?

[azure zephyr]

It was my first round but they asked me the code design question from here: https://leetcode.com/discuss/interview-experience/1504593/Atlassian-or-SDE-2-or-P4-or-September-2021-or-Bangalore-or-Offer

[uncut umbra]

I haven't done databases

oh that's an interesting piece of info

I'll keep that in mind

thanks

[lament summit]

cant use slave kw anymore

amazon employee

aka

slave

[vestal pelican]

check out ur DM

[cobalt siren]

Oh that one seems pretty simple

[jaunty basalt]

I got that for a LC round

During on-site

Wait

I also got the Low level design question

For my other LC round

Wtf

[azure zephyr]

ah okay i was a little worried as first because they told me this round would be DS&A so i wasn't expecting a code design question at all

[jaunty basalt]

That system design question I also got for my phone

Wtf

[azure zephyr]

the interviewer told me i did well but he also kept mentioning that atlassian is a great company to jump to

which made me think he thought i wasn't a new grad or something

[jaunty basalt]

They kind of have to say that

[teal jackal]

The bread game at my college subway has been amazing this semester

[jaunty basalt]

They also don’t know much about you coming in

Unless it’s the values or meaner round

[teal jackal]

Do u guys think I should reapply to atlassian, I got rejected the first time they posted but they posted the swe new grad app again

Or is applying twice sus

[cobalt siren]

I think recruiters notice anyways

[teal jackal]

Not Bloomberg 😎

They don't notice

[cobalt siren]

But I hear sometimes that people make it past by dumb chance

Minus the dude that applied to bb 7 times lol

[teal jackal]

I sadly haven't seen anyone else make it past with an alt email yet

But then again i don't keep track

[cobalt siren]

Given that Atlassian seems to be hiring aggressively I’m surprised how many rejects were in the channel

[azure zephyr]

i got rejected initially, but then got unrejected basically

[uneven fulcrum]

Atlassian doesn't sponsor, right?

[azure zephyr]

if the interviewer said that he thinks i did well, and that he hopes my future rounds with atlassian goes well that's a good sign right?

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah that’s good

Why wouldn’t it be

[teal jackal]

Resume rj?

[low scroll]

how are you getting all these interviews bruh

[azure zephyr]

yes

[azure zephyr]

idk

[teal jackal]

If an interviewer explicitly says "you did well" I assume it's good

[cobalt siren]

Atlassian interviewers we’re chill

One even told me what I needed to solve in order to pass saying he wasn’t supposed to say lol

[teal jackal]

My friend got an atlassian offer and offered to give me the recruiter connection

[azure zephyr]

prob one of the best interviewers i've had this season

[low scroll]

you think I could see your resume

[teal jackal]

I might just try to cold email and pretend I never got the resume reject email

Is that a good idea

Or no

[cobalt siren]

One of them actually just reached out on LinkedIn after I accepted, they’re very nice

[uncut umbra]

yeah same lol

[azure zephyr]

or they weren't looking for the whole solution?

[uncut umbra]

atlassian keeps on telling me I'm still in the process lol

and that they're going through all resumes

[cobalt siren]

Yeah so he told me I needed to get like one out of 5 follow ups

[jaunty basalt]

Bruh

[azure zephyr]

nice lmaooo im guessing that was for your final?

[cobalt siren]

Yep haha

And it was tagged

[lethal turret]

got an email after bloomberg em round to schedule a call

[cobalt siren]

Slightly different variation but still

[lethal turret]

could it be a rej?

[teal jackal]

I guess I'll just cold email a recruiter and pretend I never got the resume reject email

[azure zephyr]

weren't all of your questions tagged?

[cobalt siren]

That is true lol

[jaunty basalt]

For the on-site?

[cobalt siren]

For both phone and final

[jaunty basalt]

Maybe it’s a small list of questions then

[cobalt siren]

We only have 2 technical rounds for th entire process haha

[teal jackal]

It's been a week since phone, I haven't heard back from Bloomberg yet

[jaunty basalt]

Bruh

[azure zephyr]

i wish my question from today was tagged lmaoo

[jaunty basalt]

I had 4 in total

[cobalt siren]

Did you have trouble w it @azure zephyr

[teal jackal]

I heard that at worst they keep you waiting for 2 weeks

And how long you wait doesn't impact the decision

[azure zephyr]

i mean i wasn't prepared for a code design question at all

[uncut umbra]

if it's a call you got in

[jaunty basalt]

It’s LC like though

[floral plank]

When was yours?

[jaunty basalt]

Just bc they put a label on it doesn’t make it much different

[azure zephyr]

but i was able to code everything up we just ran out of time to test it

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah that’s fine

[azure zephyr]

and he said i did well. i just feel like i didn't come to a final solution bc i didn't test

[lethal turret]

3 weeks ago...

[uncut umbra]

jfc

[azure zephyr]

but i think im just overthinking it tbh

[uncut umbra]

which company @azure zephyr

[floral plank]

That is long

But good job

Idk how long I have to wait for this

[cobalt siren]

You’ll be fine I’m sure

[azure zephyr]

i've never done a lc design question before tbh, having to make the separate classes and stuff makes it feel a lot different than a typical lc question

[jaunty basalt]

Interesting

Yeah expect more of those

For the on-site

I got something very similar to your question for the on-site for one of my rounds

I thought it was the same but maybe that’s cuz the person who wrote the description worded it differently

[azure zephyr]

well yeah i know the onsite will be a question similar to that, i was just expecting something different for this round based on the experiences of everyone i've talked to

[azure zephyr]

atlassian

[uncut umbra]

ah got it

is there a difference between fdse regular and fdse government for palantir?

[cobalt siren]

Yeah no that’s fair lol

But I guess they’re blurring the lines

[lament summit]

one works with the government one doesnt

l o l

[azure zephyr]

ya tf i was so ready to rank some teams LMAO

[cobalt siren]

That’s what I got for phone haha

[azure zephyr]

count some ballots whatever

thats basically what everyone got

[cobalt siren]

ItS aCtUaLLy cOunT baLloTs

[azure zephyr]

that ik of

[uncut umbra]

in terms of interview process, difficulty, etc.

[lament summit]

no its all the same

[azure zephyr]

everyone i talked to this about this round, for this loop (2023) got that question but ig they're switching it up

[lament summit]

fdse, swe all the same bar

[jaunty basalt]

This isn’t coinbase

It’s not the same thing over and over

[old smelt]

Anyone know the ziprecruiter process?

[jaunty basalt]

@cobalt siren well we know the “bar” isn’t lower

[azure zephyr]

i hope atlassian doesn't drug test tho

[jaunty basalt]

Nah

[cobalt siren]

Someone said no

[jaunty basalt]

They don’t

[azure zephyr]

if they do might as well withdraw my app rn tbh

[jaunty basalt]

Dayum

[cobalt siren]

I feel like only banks drug test now a days

[jaunty basalt]

[azure zephyr]

but ik most companies don't anymore

[tawdry skiff]

bruh most software companies dont

cus half their staff would be positive

[azure zephyr]

i didn't even know that banks drug test tbh

[jaunty basalt]

Idk any tech company that tests

[cobalt siren]

Actually c1 didn’t drug test

[tawdry skiff]

banks, government contractors , etc..

[fossil jewel]

defense perhaps

[tawdry skiff]

just make sure you're not attached to a gov contract and gucci

[reef wyvern]

anyone have any tips for roblox interview?

[teal jackal]

great, gonna smoke so much meth before my first day if i get an offer

sorry for ping

forgot to disable ping shit

[jaunty basalt]

Older banks do

C1 was founded in the 90s

[cobalt siren]

Yeah they’re a tech company first yk

[jaunty basalt]

[azure zephyr]

oh places like wells fargo im guessing?

[jaunty basalt]

Idk I never applied and got a job there

But probably yeah

[cobalt siren]

What lol

[jaunty basalt]

JPMC type stuff

They ask

[azure zephyr]

does anyone here have experience with hudl?

[cobalt siren]

Nah but you can watch my high school mixtape on hudl

[jaunty basalt]

[tardy geode]

i need hope in my life

[azure zephyr]

they just reached out for an interview, idk if its worth going through with it or not

[tardy geode]

[azure zephyr]

its remote so

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-eating-ice-gif-19921852

[jaunty basalt]

If u have time why not

I think u can drop later when u get Atlassian

[azure zephyr]

i thought i was wrapping up my processes but here i am lmaoo

[azure zephyr]

i kind of got it in my head that after atlassian i'm done, but honestly you're right why not. i don't think they'll do layoffs either

[jaunty basalt]

Atlassian is very stable

They’re growing rn

[azure zephyr]

oh yeah ik about atlassian, i meant hudl

[jaunty basalt]

I declined cuz I didn’t want remote

But they’re great

[azure zephyr]

i didn't want to work remote either

[jaunty basalt]

Wait

Relationship?

That’s usually why

[cobalt siren]

Hey man

[azure zephyr]

but ever since my parents told me that they'll give me their rental property where i live rn (phoenix) i've been a lot more open to remote

[cobalt siren]

Don’t come at me like that 😭

[azure zephyr]

bc who doesn't want free rent

[azure zephyr]

i mean yes but he's willing to move where ever

[frank wedge]

You’re getting a rental property

[lament summit]

must b nice to have rich parents

[cobalt siren]

Good man

I just have separation anxiety so Atlassian it is

[jaunty basalt]

That’s a nicer way to word it than what you said before

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-rolling-flip-green-cat-gif-15088214

[azure zephyr]

it's not in bad shape or anything like that

[cobalt siren]

True tho I guess my point was if I never met my gf then I’d take bb cause nyc but now that I’m in a relationship it’s more important to me to stay for my own good and hers

[jaunty basalt]

[azure zephyr]

i'd rather have parents who don't equate money to love

[grizzled bronze]

You'll still be living in Arizona though

[lament summit]

damn

[azure zephyr]

but free living thoooo

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah but hello 500k offer

[azure zephyr]

i'd get me closer to FIRE

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah, worth it

[azure zephyr]

girl pls tell me you've signed

[cobalt siren]

Haha which company if you don’t mind me asking

[lament summit]

did u try nego with pltr

[cobalt siren]

Ah ok

[grizzled bronze]

You better marry your anxiety if you have that high of an offer

[lament summit]

her own trading firm

[teal jackal]

https://images.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageHandler/trim/750/457/products/2004/305/x305DVDL12H-f_MT.jpeg

did anyone else have one of these back as a kid
the road trip classic tbh
back when streaming a movie through data costed $700

[cobalt siren]

On the bright side less chance of burnout plus get to be with bf

[azure zephyr]

my guess is palantir

[lament summit]

HachiTrading

[jaunty basalt]

This sums up everything

[fast hinge]

How much do y’all think 150k in Austin equals for SF

[wind drum]

200ish

not like actually col but how a tech company would level it

[dense seal]

whos giving 150k in austin?

[fast hinge]

Col wise

Nextdoor letting me do remote

[low scroll]

150k in austin is kinda crazy

[fast hinge]

Ye that’s why I wanna delay going to SF

But idk how much equivalent it is

[wind drum]

Oracle gives a shitton in austin iirc

like 170-180+

[grizzled bronze]

Oracle non-cloud?

[wind drum]

nah i think oci

[fast hinge]

Yeah Amazon Austin is nice

[azure zephyr]

what are the ethics of holding onto multiple offers lmao

like...a security deposit ya know

[old smelt]

I say it's reasonable in this economy

[wind drum]

none lol, ppl might be salty you are "hogging" them but who cares

[west egret]

You earned them. Do you mean accepting multiple offers or just holding onto them until the deadline?

[azure zephyr]

accepting multiple basically

[rustic vessel]

How many though? 2, 3, 4, or more?

[azure zephyr]

partially because of the economy partially because the offer deadlines are happening so soon and i'm still interviewing kinda

??? (no)

[grizzled bronze]

Depends on how many you're accepting and holding on to, anything more than two companies is excessive IMO

[azure zephyr]

it would just be two

[last summit]

which two

kinda dick move if the companies have low hc cuz when you cancel it'll hurt them more

if amazon then whatever lol

[teal jackal]

nothing

ohhhh

accepting multiple offers

yeah that would not be ethical

i think that would get messy too

[last summit]

amzn would literally not care at all

[tardy geode]

praying hard everyday that hiring pickups like before from jan onwards

[teal jackal]

i dont think itll be the end of the line for new grad postings rn

but im not optimistic about there being enough for everyone

[timber rock]

i want this to be over so i can stop religiously refreshing my emails every 10 minutes

[teal jackal]

so true

same

[tardy geode]

is the ng hirings messed up or hiring messed up in every level?

[last summit]

mostly ng

[timber rock]

companies are probably still starving for seniors

[tardy geode]

i kinda have some workex like an year or two but it ain't in the US , its back in my home country

idk if that matters to companies

here

[teal jackal]

soon to have more than enough seniors to fill the vacancies tbh

with all the layoffs

[grizzled bronze]

Why are you refreshing though, just leave email open in the background and you'll receive notifications

[teal jackal]

but tbh i think this downturn is temporary

[timber rock]

first the meta interns came for our grad roles, next the meta seniors will come for our senior roles

[teal jackal]

alterium honestly just do the bare minimum in life for a bit

just watch youtube and shows

[tardy geode]

is samsara codesignal after resume screen?

[teal jackal]

worrying about email fucks up my productivity

I think senior SWE demand will be back

[tardy geode]

proctored?

[timber rock]

cause my email notis are inconsistent af

[teal jackal]

assume all codesignals are proctored tbh

[wind drum]

wait im dumb it's before screen

[west egret]

I mean it's not like it's their fault lol

[uncut umbra]

idk I'm probably gonna keep my best two offers especially given the market and idk what'll happen in 9 months you know

[teal jackal]

i guess i cant stop u

[timber rock]

half the time my phone pings me for spam mail and doesn't for normal mail

[teal jackal]

u do what u gotta

just lay low for a few days tbh

and do the bare minimum to survive

as u wait for emails

this sounds so depressing LMAOOOOO

[uncut umbra]

this is facts

[teal jackal]

my wording is terrible

[tardy geode]

i solved a LC medium on my own without any help , i would eat something good today to reward myself

[lament summit]

W

[teal jackal]

but yeah youre gonna have 0 productivity while waiting for your reply

[uncut umbra]

me checking my email constantly for updates and only getting wayup making me want to put myself waydown into the earth

[timber rock]

I gotta pass my classes lol now that interviews are over I can actually do that shit instead of leetcode

[lament summit]

Eat some steak king

[teal jackal]

if youre gonna be unproductive just be honest to yourself about it

[lament summit]

then get ur ass back to grinding

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

yeah

[lament summit]

we will be here when it’s the first day u solve a hard without help

[grizzled bronze]

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[fossil jewel]

[tardy geode]

that's how i am driving myself through this rough season 😭