2023_grads

[vestal pelican]

what is the best time for 3sum ...

[whole berry]

when everyone is a bit tipsy ? idk ?

[vestal pelican]

are you sure this is the most optimal?

[whole berry]

yes, unless if you want to go to jail then drunk or sober

[vital meteor]

Not a fan of 3sum tbh

I can never finish

[faint igloo]

nah he prolly split it into 2 days

[ancient grotto]

I had final interview today but it was only two rounds

[faint igloo]

only two rounds?

[ancient grotto]

so I am wondering if I have few more rounds after today's interview

[faint igloo]

hm round and project deepdive?

[ancient grotto]

project deepdive and coding

didn't have hm or system design

[faint igloo]

theres no sys design

i think

[ancient grotto]

how many rounds did you have for final?

[faint igloo]

phone screen, coding, deepdive, hm final

but i didnt hear back and i did it last week

[ancient grotto]

mine was technical screening(coding x 2), final(codingx1, deepdivex1)

what did they say about how many days will it take to hear the result?

[faint igloo]

they didnt say

lol

i had hoped it was like a week

[ancient grotto]

wait, nobody getting offer yet for ng 2023??

[faint igloo]

think so

[ancient grotto]

hmm, that's weird..

[faint igloo]

same for me but + hm round

[ancient grotto]

I see, then I may have additional round for hm

[latent sun]

how much weight do internships/prestige have on your resume after 1 yoe or so

[marble bronze]

Probably a lot less

[latent sun]

aight

[chilly burrow]

If you have no other offers I'd say go for it

You can always jump ship after

Damn

There's plenty of other places keep applying!

Remember, you don't just have to apply for new grad roles

You can try applying for entry-level, junior, (and even senior roles)

[primal pike]

dont forget angel.co

[pallid kernel]

i got one for amazon

[tribal moss]

has anyone heard back for airtable this year

[forest aspen]

yes

reject

[tribal moss]

How long did it take you to get a response and when did you apply. Hopefully I didn't too late

[deft copper]

Once you have the equation for the recurrence relation you have enough info to do it top down or bottom up.

[ivory stratus]

Yo MySpace was before its time. Such a good social media platform

[forest aspen]

they reached out to me

i never applied

[tribal moss]

oh I see you must be cracked

no one reaches out to me D;

[floral plank]

Grokking dp helps imo

Like it doesn’t help for every dp problem but it makes me more confident about these types of problems

[forest aspen]

untrue, i dont know why they keep reaching out to me tho

[ivory stratus]

Anyone else playing MW2 tomorrow 👀

[frosty tide]

Does anyone have a link to next C1 tip/tdp prep call?

[marsh sand]

how long does bb take to reply

applied like a few days ago

[teal jackal]

Resume screening kicked in for me after 2 weeks

[maiden fable]

Did anyone get to round 1 after oa for walmart

[late kestrel]

its halloweekend go party 😤

[teal jackal]

not me

im prob not buying mw2

[rigid quail]

SWE I in Mississauga? when did you get the OA?

[maiden fable]

Swe ii , i didnt find any swe i, but ii says doesnt need experience

[rigid quail]

do you have the link by any chance?

[maiden fable]

https://careers.walmart.com/us/jobs/WD1115603-usa-2023-full-time-campus-software-engineer-ii

[west egret]

lmao I had Thomson Reuters recruiter phone scheduled for tomorrow and they just sent a rejection email

[teal jackal]

interesting

at walmart swe ii is new grad

[rigid quail]

US posting

there is a swe I in Canada

[teal jackal]

my dad almost accepted an offer at walmart but didnt want to move the family to arkansas

[maiden fable]

Same bro i had next round for walmart and they sent a rejection overnight?? Im so confused

[teal jackal]

he tried to argue for remote work

did not work

so declined the offer

back in 2011

[west egret]

Bro Bentonville

[teal jackal]

yeah i wouldnt want to live there either

lol

[late kestrel]

did you actually sign an NDA? if yes, the wording of it would tell you better than we could

[fossil jewel]

just say it wasn’t you

[late kestrel]

i wouldnt include specific questions then out of safety. you could do things like "they asked questions like: xyz" and xyz is a question thats similar

just get as close as possible to the nda terms without breaking it

[jaunty basalt]

You can mix the companies up

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah sure but leave some room for interpretation. Dont say exact question, or say, this is not verbatim. And if in ur post u say “yep i interviewed at X y and Z companies. I had questions like a b c”

You leave room for interpretation I guess

[teal jackal]

toast the buns

french the fries

[reef wyvern]

I just got an OA from optiver with a 72 hr time limit?? after being ghosted by them for 2 months

is this like. something that happens

[west egret]

I heard NYC was filled?

[grizzled bronze]

If you have to ask, it's filled

that's how it usually goes

[floral plank]

They don’t negotiate

[grizzled bronze]

It's definitely less than Amazon

[tidal oracle]

Pinterest website is dead?

can't send the application out

[grizzled bronze]

It's up for me

[tidal oracle]

Real? Did you try to send application? It jus keep spinning

I tried last night and spin to this morning, alternative freeze sign?

[floral plank]

For internship?

[robust kettle]

First offer of the season 🥳

[teal jackal]

Ayy

where?

[robust kettle]

Optum

[teal jackal]

gr8

i have not gotten an offer yet

but i know that between now and may i think ill likely figure something out

[uncut umbra]

has anyone had specifically an hr round at bb

just finished vo2

and got invited to hr round in a couple of hours

and interviewer specifically said it's to make sure you're not a serial killer

so I feel like sysdesign is off the table?

idk, any advice?

[uneven fulcrum]

On the same day?

[nocturne seal]

How is the atlassisn first round for new grad

[uncut umbra]

yessir lmao

[autumn ridge]

BB seems random but I had that round right after my EM round and it was super super mellow and with the original recruiter that reached out to me to apply on linkedin. Took maybe 15 min and asked 1 or 2 beh questions

[uncut umbra]

yeah I wasn't even told I'd have an em round

so I'm very much like... do I prep sysdesign or what

[autumn ridge]

For EM round yes but I wouldn't for the HR round. It's with a non technical interviewer so the questions should be pure behavorial

[uncut umbra]

so when my interviewer said "you have an hr round"

it wasn't an em/hr thing

it's specifically just with my recruiter maybe?

cause I wasn't reached out to on linkedin I just had a referral lol

[autumn ridge]

I don't think it's usually with your recruiter I think I got lucky or the person backed out but it's definetly with an HR/non technical person

[solid venture]

wondering if had any advice, had my second technical bloomberg with an interview yesterday morning and at the end they asked to schedule the next round for tomorrow but i haven't gotten an email or anything about confirmation. What should I do? Also is the third round technical or behavioral?

[autumn ridge]

Are you including phone round as 1 of the technical rounds?

[zinc bear]

i had 3 technical

[autumn ridge]

Also I would reach out to recruiter to get it scheduled

yeah it's 3 total technical rounds 1 phone and 2 VO rounds

[solid venture]

is phone zoom?

cause had 2 zoom with leetcode so far

[zinc bear]

yeah

[solid venture]

ahh ok

[uneven fulcrum]

Is system design ever asked in VO2 for Bloomberg?

[zinc bear]

i never had any sys design in my process

[solid venture]

i did reach out to recruiter but hasnt rewsponded

[zinc bear]

i think if any it’s exclusively in EM round

[solid venture]

what is EM

[zinc bear]

engineering manager

its the last interview

[solid venture]

oh sorry im an noob

[zinc bear]

no worries lol

[uneven fulcrum]

Gotcha

[solid venture]

wait so third round would be more leetcode? goddamn after 4 questions its not enough

[zinc bear]

ya my process was stupid long

recruiter reach out -> offer was from aug 15 to oct 27

[solid venture]

oh lord

[zinc bear]

i tried to get them to schedule interviews closer together but i guess they’re overloaded

but i got call schedule request for offer a couple hours after hr/em

[solid venture]

so far questions have been easy but worried going to get some random untagged hard

[zinc bear]

mine never crossed medium

[west egret]

HR is chill. Have an answer prepared for why BB and some good stories for behavioral questions.

[plush torrent]

Does anyone have any idea about circle interview process?

What kinds of questions are asked?

I have three rounds system design, pair programming and hr

[uncut umbra]

isn't circle closed

[plush torrent]

I have an interview on Monday

They must have stopped taking new applications

[uncut umbra]

oh my friend got an email that said that they're closed and won't be doing more interviews

[plush torrent]

3 of my friends have interviews in November

[uncut umbra]

cool, my b

[bleak ocean]

is it better to do bloomberg phone in c++ instead of python?

[brave dirge]

don’t think they care

how are y’all coping with this recruiting season. it feels like a marathon 😮‍💨

[shrewd ocean]

did u hear back fast after vo1

[solid venture]

alcohol

[bleak ocean]

no motivation to leetcode

[west egret]

I did mine in python and no one cared

[autumn ridge]

i would be suprised if it has any impact on decision making. I did mine in python

[delicate folio]

They're still taking people. I applied two weeks ago, got my OA last week and just did it.

[pure mauve]

Bruh there’s like 4 positions for okta

why is new grad so hard dude

[autumn ridge]

it's crazy

[grizzled bronze]

https://streamable.com/c2ytj1

[autumn ridge]

not the clip lol feel bad for them tbh probably got in trouble and it's a dumb slip up

[jaunty basalt]

Feel bad for the recorders setup

[old smelt]

Last year it was popping, economy is hurting us this year

[autumn ridge]

yeah that's true lol

imagine recruiting before COVID where you had to actually fly everywhere lol. Like how the fuck did that actually work during the school year?

[small rover]

I had to tell my prof I was flying to Chicago and was gonna miss a lecture

They're pretty understanding if it's an interview

[jaunty basalt]

People just cut or told prof. At the same time way fewer people got flown out I feel

Most professors don’t even care

[autumn ridge]

yeah just thinking about the time commitment of flying everywhere.

[brave dirge]

i guess it'd be worse if you were working full time while applying for new job

[small rover]

Usually you book a flight through their system for free. Fly out in the afternoon and fly back at like 4 the next day. Fairly easy.

But yeah crazy to think we used to do that

[grizzled bronze]

Last year we had people flexing their reneges

[brave dirge]

it went to 99 at some point this morning

[old smelt]

Well atleast the GDP report looked good today 👍 unfortunately they'll keep raising interest rates lol

[slender apex]

wtf happened lol

[grizzled bronze]

When's meta new grad opening up

[dense cloud]

never

[dusky tapir]

Meta shouldnt even be a fanng anymore

[outer radish]

snap should buy meta

[hard cobalt]

Did anyone interview for Aon's cyber associate role?

[outer radish]

SAANG

[autumn ridge]

meta is still insanely profitable but their not growing anymore due to the privacy changes and their burning like 17 bil a year on VR

[cobalt siren]

How do raises work at bb if structure is flat?

Zuck be making fencing games in metaverse only to tell workers to put in more effort lmao

[autumn ridge]

I feel like it's swung way to far the other way though. The average PE in the SP500 is 25 and Meta is currently at 10.75. They are being valued at their share price today like a manufacturing company lol

[autumn ridge]

lobby the gov to ban it lol

I don't buy the VR/Metaverse. I think it will happen in our life time but it's still too early IMO

[foggy perch]

i'm just hoping neuralink works out even though it'll absolutely be abused

brain vr >>>> normal vr

sad

[knotty talon]

Mfs boutta put ads in my sleep

[solemn crag]

Switched my Netflix intern app to NG

Hope they don't ghost me again💀

[coral finch]

Anyone has Gm 2 hr phone??

[solemn crag]

Will aggressively ping HR if they ghost me again

[foggy perch]

ez they just need to test it on their swe 🧠

[coral finch]

Thought neuralinks are on pig?

[autumn ridge]

I know we are just peasant new grads but having a good recruiters vs flaky non responsive ones really makes me feel different about a company.

[coral finch]

Bruh

[foggy perch]

on the bright side, that means implementing dying in the game means dying in real life will be ez

[bleak anchor]

How interesting are the infra teams are google? specifically Borg... Seems cool but very mature

[sonic coral]

Varies tremendously lol

Even borg itself is massive

[coral finch]

I saw someone has 99k unread mails… I want to click mark all as read

[bleak anchor]

Infra like Borg

So internal

[autumn ridge]

yes LOL and chewy. Promising to get back to you and then just not responding when you have deadlines. Like its okay if you are rejecting me but can you just tell me lol

[late kestrel]

flexport interviews were just so ass 😬

[autumn ridge]

dude

the worst

like it's impressive how bad they are are creating prompts for coding problems

every single one was the most scuffed, unclear constantly changing requirements lol

[craggy radish]

What were the questions they gave?

[autumn ridge]

NDA so not sharing questions but they sucked

Oh wait actually this thing that I said was input you actually need to create yourself

[late kestrel]

finally, you misunderstood me so actually you need to do this instead

but i refused to tell you till now, even after you asked clarifying questions

[solemn crag]

Is Palantir full

and Atlassian

[tepid delta]

anyone know if this means an offer or not from amazon "Congratulations on your inclined outcome from you last interview"?

with a call scheduled after that

but portal showing "No longer under consideration"

[coral finch]

Congratulations

[late kestrel]

nah only the 2h phone

or whatever it was

[autumn ridge]

I don't believe Palantir is bc they have a lot of people in this discord still early in the process

[split plaza]

Did you hear back from your HM yet

[autumn ridge]

Yeah got reject

[split plaza]

Damn rip

Your HM was on Monday?

[autumn ridge]

Yeah. Had an offer deadline for 10/28 though so they got back fast

[split plaza]

gotcha

[lilac locust]

Yes

[coral finch]

Could you give me some info? I look up their levels, and saw 133 stocks/ yr 😭 but I will take anything atp. Thanks

[lilac locust]

they don’t do RSUs

[lilac locust]

What else do you need

dm me

[timber rock]

it basically means you passed the interview but no offer yet

[tepid delta]

ahh I see

[split plaza]

also was it a phone call or email

[vernal prism]

so is rippling in a FR hiring freeze?

these mfs havent told anyone anything

for new grads

someone internally is asking for me

[vestal pelican]

Probably lol

[vernal prism]

will let u lot know when i hear back

[vestal pelican]

Shilling with a straight face is tough tho

[vernal prism]

recruiters two faced to its fine

[loud stump]

if I renege Roblox would I likely be blacklisted?

also has anyone been able to negotiate with an expired offer?

[delicate trench]

anyone joining seatgeek in 2023

[spice kestrel]

Anyone do the pinterest final round interview?

[robust kettle]

why would they know it's expired?

[vernal prism]

how does the other company knows its expired

@robust kettle great minds think alike

[loud stump]

i think google for instance requires the document

[nova swan]

you can change the offer letter with adobe reader if you wanted

idk if theres metadata that would show that though

[tawdry skiff]

There is metadata

[split plaza]

does Palantir call to reject

[primal pike]

no if u call them first

[split plaza]

DM

[formal glen]

what is the best place to learn system design questions for ng?

[fallen hornet]

bruh what the FUCK is flexport doing

[dusky tapir]

For what company

[glass knoll]

how long does it take to hear from palantir after karat?

[solemn tinsel]

It took one day for me

But my recruiter isn't available for phone call until the 7th

[formal glen]

start up company for cryto

[fossil jewel]

grokking is good i hear, system design primer is also a repo on gh that i hear mentioned a lot

[formal glen]

how long you think it takes to good at these questions for ng

[jaunty basalt]

You don’t get good

You just know pros and cons of certain technologies

[formal glen]

thanks

[fossil jewel]

idk never studied system design

[formal glen]

same here

[fossil jewel]

i feel like just researching how to get things done for projects does help

[jaunty basalt]

Exactly

It’s literally how would you go about this project

At this point it’s just what would you use and why

[lyric cosmos]

btw guys, what if you have 2 codesignal assessments from different companies, and if you do one, can you do the other one too?

bc I heard that there should be like a time period between taking the assessments

[latent sun]

yo anyone here got any insight on whether bloomberg reviews applicants interview by interview or as a whole after entire process. They’re like straight up scheduling my HR and EM at the end of each interview

[robust kettle]

there's a 2 week cooldown on codesignal i think

i had 2 companies wanting one, when i finished it for one it was automatically sent to the other as well

[lyric cosmos]

damn

why they are doing like that

[topaz elk]

what hte fuck
i just got roblox onsite
after reject
they said theyre reconsidering

[lyric cosmos]

after rejection?

I didn't know it's possible

[subtle vortex]

Did anyone give zoom OA (codesignal)? If yes, did you get next steps?

[topaz elk]

yes

[soft garnet]

anyone take epic systems OA?

[slender apex]

is this the first 4 hour one or 3 hour in person one

[fossil jewel]

happened with someone here, twice

[weak latch]

sigh

😔

[lone rapids]

Tiktok proceed me to take round after oa

[weak latch]

BB reject L

[lone rapids]

I cannot find any new jobs. Where you guys finding new jobs

[weak latch]

goodbye new grad

[lone rapids]

U got any offer

[weak latch]

no lol

bb was the only interview i had

[lone rapids]

I feel you cuz same

[weak latch]

still waiting on visa and c1

i've been applying for internships for a week and already got salesforce phone next week

and like 8 oas

[lone rapids]

Damn nice

[weak latch]

so i think im just gonna do another internship

[lone rapids]

Wish o could but as an international cant

[hasty birch]

You're hearing back from internships even though you're 2023 grad?

[weak latch]

changed my resume to dec 2023 grad

[hasty birch]

Bruh lol

[weak latch]

my current grad date is august 2023

but i have to seriously crunch my classes to make that grad date

it would be a nightmare workload

i only chose that because i wanted to get a new grad job and get out ASAP, but that's looking more and more unlikely so i think im just gonna stick with the correct grad date dec 2023 (that's when im SUPPOSED to graduate)

[lone rapids]

U chilling then

[west egret]

His grad date is whenever he decides to graduate anyways. Not actually lying.

[weak latch]

^^^^

yeah its the truth lol

i haven't filed intent to grad yet

[west egret]

I can do all my classes and decide to put in the application for graduation a semester later if I want.

[coral finch]

I don’t think next year is better since we at the beginning of recession and companies reports are all gloomy for next year

[autumn ridge]

Email

[young peak]

It's worth it to crunch classes and graduate early if possible

As long as you got an offer that can fit that timeframe

[weak latch]

only if i had an offer

right exactly

if i get an offer its 100% better

[young peak]

At what stage was the bb reject

[weak latch]

first phone interview lol

[young peak]

Ah so LC needs work

[thorn walrus]

new grad is done

incoming @ unemployment

[young peak]

Hmm your resume sounds good though, so def just keep sharpening that LC grind

[weak latch]

nah i just choked so hard those questions were really easy

i got nervous ngl

[young peak]

Plenty of more opportunities ahead bud no worries, just keep going

[weak latch]

new grad is pretty much dead in the water for me i think

without taking a big step backward

[thorn walrus]

me too

[prime palm]

Why

[prime palm]

.

[thorn walrus]

no new openings

[weak latch]

no interviews

not many job postings

lots of ghosting

[prime palm]

Oh guck

Good strategy

[weak latch]

i guess it'll just be whichever i get first lol

if i get ng first then great i'll go do that

i think i have a UKG offer in my pocket too bc i got an offe rlast summer and i reached out to the recruiter who said i can do phone

and that one was soooooo easy

i remember it well they asked me to make a char frequency map on final 💀

[hasty birch]

For new grad?

[weak latch]

intern

i guess what im trying to say is

[grizzled bronze]

How much is their intern pay

[weak latch]

im a lot more confident that i'll get a 2023 intern offer than 2023 new grad

[weak latch]

$26/hour

[weak latch]

• this lets me get more industry/technical experience before jumping into the wolves of new grad

[primal pike]

rip amazon

[weak latch]

mfs dming me asking "how was the bb phone" man i got REJECTED how do you THINK it was

ffs

[lyric cosmos]

bb you mean Bloomberg ?

[weak latch]

yes

[thorn walrus]

@weak latch what did pinterest email say

[weak latch]

it is literally LITERALLY in my process message

come ON

[thorn walrus]

like they filled all hc?

[weak latch]

do you think im pinterest

how am i supposed to know

[lyric cosmos]

no one knows

[thorn walrus]

f wondering if pinterest is still evaluating final rounds

or if they just closed the pipeline

[timber rock]

anyone done expedia final and got any tips for what to focus on studying? 🥺

[thorn walrus]

sorry didnt mean to upset you just that the specific wording in the email might be important for differentiating

[lyric cosmos]

btw is it possible to pass the tech interviews if you didn't solve the question but you communicated well?

[timber rock]

Yes

[dense cloud]

thats interesting

probably found out they have more headcount than expected

[lyric cosmos]

interesting

[weak latch]

redact it

missed a name lol

[thorn walrus]

yea and my recruiter not being responsive rn

whend u do your final @burnt obsidian

mine said 5-6 for new grad 💀

[dense cloud]

my recruiter was mentioning during the hr call what the next steps (vo) were like, does that mean i passed or just standard

[young peak]

Jeez so angry lmao

I get it since I was in a similar place last year but there's a place for you man I promise

[weak latch]

It's really annoying when i get bombed with 5 dms about my bloomberg reject right after i found out about it

then people ask really stupid questions about another reject i put in

[young peak]

Welcome to cscareerdevs lmao

[dense cloud]

lmao thats why i rarely process anything now

[young peak]

Just lock DMs like me, and if ppl have questions make em open a thread

[jaunty basalt]

This why I don’t process anything, you can see why I stopped after one reject

[thorn walrus]

bump 🙂

[dense cloud]

especially after rejects its so demoralising

[weak latch]

all of them go into my message requests on disc now

instead of pinging me

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah there’s that wack feature

Some people are nice

[weak latch]

but when i look through it and see the same bot questions "Sorry to hear that you got rejected! May I know what round you got rejected? What did they ask?"

[jaunty basalt]

But the cringe one stick out

[young peak]

I don't mind it when ppl ask questions and I get the desperation but yeah it's really difficult to be helpful when you yourself are struggling

[vale anchor]

hey guys, i need some help with deciding between offers. I got Bloomberg and oci for ng swe. Both are good companies, it a hard choice considering bb's culture and oci's location and package. Would you give me some advice?

[young peak]

Wtf is OCI

[jaunty basalt]

Omfg

Oracle cloud infrastructure

[thorn walrus]

what's the point of processing anything in this discord then 🤔

[jaunty basalt]

I don’t

[weak latch]

data points for the website

[solemn peak]

Can you pass roblox with 839?

[jaunty basalt]

Fuk that

[weak latch]

no you need an 850

[jaunty basalt]

It doesn’t help

[fresh lagoon]

Flexing

[jaunty basalt]

U either pass or you fail

That’s it

[dusky plover]

is pin actually done

[young peak]

TCs for both?

[jaunty basalt]

What is useful is applying asap

[dusky plover]

there are peoplew ith onsites still scheduled for 2023 grad

[young peak]

BB is better in wlb and culture from what I know

[thorn walrus]

dude that's what im tyring to figure out

[dusky plover]

did you do their vo @thorn walrus

[young peak]

Ey hachi what's the good news

[thorn walrus]

yea

[young peak]

Bb offer secure?

[jaunty basalt]

That’s the wrong hachi

[young peak]

Bruh

[dusky plover]

when

[dense cloud]

lmao

[jaunty basalt]

Hachi is the new you

[dense cloud]

the number of hachis in this server

[thorn walrus]

10/17

[jaunty basalt]

So they worship like yahkuna

[thorn walrus]

someone got offer from final on 10/18

[dusky plover]

wait holy shi

[thorn walrus]

wtf

[dusky plover]

i did mine last monday

[knotty talon]

I assume they are done putting new people in the process

[thorn walrus]

trueee

i have SH

[dusky plover]

she went on a vacation

same

i can tell shes hella busy tho

responded to me at like 9pm

why do they not have university recruiters

more

[young peak]

Are we talking about pinterest

@frank wedge help these poor souls out

[knotty talon]

Apparently PINS headcount for newgrad is like 50 people lol

[dusky plover]

wdym its literally pin we talkin bout heere

and like

[thorn walrus]

wait thats a lot holy

[vale anchor]

bb around 180k and oci around 215k including RSUs

[dusky plover]

ppl not getting ROs

[thorn walrus]

@knotty talon who's your recruiter

[young peak]

That's so low wdym

[thorn walrus]

i thought their hc was like 20 or smth 💀

[young peak]

NYC and SF?

[dusky plover]

does that include the interns

[knotty talon]

Gz

[vale anchor]

NYC and seattle

[young peak]

I mean I'd nego BB with Oracle and go to BB

[dusky plover]

does this inc ROs for interns

[knotty talon]

No idea

[dusky plover]

if it did than the ppl they are hiring is like 5

[rustic vessel]

I thought you’re done with recruiting

[teal jackal]

Apparently Amazon is hiring 15000 interns this year

Bruh this is why I say getting into Amazon is worthless

[thorn walrus]

done w/ new interviews

[young peak]

You can get your offer to about 220k max at BB rn so just strive for that and make it happen. You'll save more money at Oracle at Seattle but the opportunity cost is that you'd have worse wlb

[thorn walrus]

still waiting to hear back

[young peak]

Plus BB is a great feeder company to other places like Meta, G etc

[thorn walrus]

also hello world

[teal jackal]

If everyone is super, nobody is super

Pretty much Amazon internships

[knotty talon]

Also that you gotta live in Seattle vs NYC

[thorn walrus]

meta

[teal jackal]

Rng tbh, don't take it personally

[thorn walrus]

actually now is best time to join meta

[nova reef]

zon saw what happened to meta yesterday so they joined the party too

[teal jackal]

Amazon resume screening is like "good enough" rather than actually heavily scrutinizing your resume

[thorn walrus]

my guy why are u in the new grads chat

[dusky plover]

lmao

[vale anchor]

gotchu, thanks a lot

[teal jackal]

Welcome to the suffering room Austin

[weak latch]

Amazon is gonna rescind offers im calling it

[teal jackal]

Everyone here has no will to live

[weak latch]

especially new grad offers

[knotty talon]

This only true among gigatryhards in this server

[weak latch]

they're down 16%

in after hours from earnings

[thorn walrus]

signing and relocation

pre-tax value

but u get it back during tax returns

still sucks though

usually companies are 1 year right

[young peak]

Y'all the fucking Kirkland office at G

Is so fucking good

[teal jackal]

I'm coping lol, any way to save my ego from reaching rock bottom.

But even then the hiring bar is the absolutely lowest for the pay grade, like they ask u a few leetcode qs (you don't even have to do that well on them) and ur good

[autumn ridge]

I feel like BB comp tied to bonus is kinda lame too. Like you don't get a full bonus until Feb 2025 if you start in July 2023 vs RSU's at most companies vest right away or in 3 month chunks

[young peak]

This year it got bumped to 220k iirc

[thorn walrus]

ok guys let's stop the bb hate

[dusky plover]

wtf?

bb is the saviors this season bro

[thorn walrus]

they're single handedly saving 2023 new grads

[teal jackal]

for the intern mfs

[thorn walrus]

fr

[dusky plover]

exactly

roblox has been going strong too

mfs sent me 3 emails asking me if i was still interested in taking their oa

[teal jackal]

I kinda wish c1 kept their application open for longer, to save people who didnt apply hella early too

[snow blade]

Is it better to wait and look for referrals on linkedin or just apply to the job listing?

[dusky plover]

c1 onsite was so easy

[fossil jewel]

lmao same

like bruh i’m not going to CA

[teal jackal]

"who the fuck put Mike Bloomberg 2020 ads on my ti84 graphing calculator"

[fossil jewel]

i forgot i applied

[thorn walrus]

i got a lc hard for intern last year

[dusky plover]

i just didnt bother because people said the minigame u had to do in the oa was cheeks

[dusky plover]

fr??

this year theres no lc

its 150 in HCOL

i mean

right now

150 is more than enough for a lotta ppl

[teal jackal]

Beats unemployment

They're among the best of non tech companies

[dusky plover]

and cap1 is very secure unlike a lot of tech comps

[nocturne oriole]

1

[dusky plover]

hi kirb

[vale anchor]

bb hr somehow rejected my oci nego, maybe i need nego further.

[young peak]

Yeah my initial nego was about that too

[dusky plover]

did OCI even hire this year

[young peak]

It went a bit higher later but the majority of data points suggest highest band last year was 215k

[dusky plover]

my friend referred me to like 4 positions for OCI

and not a single reply

[young peak]

Mine was October of last year

Naw I got way more lmfao

[gilded dust]

Anyone know standard pay for l3 at google hcol?

[young peak]

But my no competing offer nego was 215k

BB

[vale anchor]

to my knowledge, only a few from hr reach out.

[young peak]

300k

[young peak]

146k base and some decent stocks iirc

[ebon quiver]

does anyone have an example email to send to companies to ask if you can expedite processes ?

[young peak]

Yeah I got a rly nice offer

I heard someone got something similar this year, 270k iirc

[teal jackal]

God damn

[young peak]

g and hrt final lmfaoo

[ebon quiver]

300 K fir new grad

tf

[young peak]

Didn't have my citadel offer at that time

Idk what the bar for negoing higher than avg is

I think they heavily value keeping you if you have hft offers

[ebon quiver]

guys does amazon negotiate offers at all ?

i heard they dont if u are a campus hire ir sm

im not an industry hire

[young peak]

I mean I chose a lower comp offer in the end

[ebon quiver]

do u know how it can be done. do u need another offer or are finals enough

[young peak]

Yeah I chose G at Seattle for 265k

[ebon quiver]

declined XD

[young peak]

Only other offer that was higher was Citadel at 350k but I didn't choose it

[pure mauve]

Lol okta sent me a reject but I have my interview scheduled next week

[young peak]

Appreciate it man

[dense cloud]

damn why didnt u choose citadel

[young peak]

Mainly wlb was my motivation

[nocturne oriole]

Hard to tell based on how everyone else is in shitter but yeah it’s bad here and def morale low

My team is joking hard bout it lol

“Joking”

[lilac locust]

https://streamable.com/c2ytj1

[young peak]

Kirb you're in Zon right

Or Meta

[nocturne oriole]

Imagine coming in at 300+ and now ur down to double digits

Dont leave read this

Cuz im REDACTING

[dusky plover]

its probably a reject for a diff role you applied?

reach out to your recruiter just in case

[nocturne oriole]

Yep

Nobody believes in metaverse

I mean like maybe 1 of 5 employees truly do

[dusky plover]

bro

they shouldve just aquired vrchat

fuckin clowns

24B sunk into nothing

[nocturne oriole]

Or they are like me who feel like yes long term it will work out but needs 5 yrs and lots of $ loss

The rebrand is what fucked us

Fucked us BAD

[nocturne oriole]

Big if true

I can believe it

So basically the effects of this will likely be layoffs imo

[dusky plover]

metaverse is a void theyre throwing money in

[teal jackal]

This is famous now 😂

[nocturne oriole]

Because even if company can survive u have to show shareholders ur willing to cut

No way to avoid

[timber rock]

Facebookverse doesn't have the same ring to it

[teal jackal]

Metaverse is stupid

[nocturne oriole]

I hope meta fuckin guts all these button pushin yahoos lol

Out here doing real work

[pure mauve]

Yeah I worked on RL it was so cool on the coming project they have

Especially the bands

arcata is lit too

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah like i said i respect the tech and think nobody can predict future. Like internet, nobody believed it would pop off. The company just fucked it up

[young peak]

Meta is honestly just feeding development for some future company icl

Paving the way

Like there will be another big player in VR that'll achieve what metaverse wanted to be

[nocturne oriole]

If ur curious the next goal for my team is super focused on making the VR shit actually work with our internal tooling lol

Dev tooling goated

[young peak]

Playstation VR 2 looks good tbh

[nocturne oriole]

Good shit tbh

[young peak]

Cython?

[dusty basin]

Aka Lumen’s startup

[weak latch]

vr is great for gaming but trying to create vr as a place to live is just weird lol

[gleaming fable]

you can always hop over to afresh

we got like 3 ex-meta engs over the last few months

[nocturne oriole]

I thought people were dumb for being infra simps but i get it now

It’s performance based, deliberate, good work, interesting. And u get feedback from knowledgeable users

[gleaming fable]

yeah I agree with all your thoughts, on the surface it seems kinda dumb but the metaverse could be pulled off but the money and time necessary is gargantuan

probably one of the single biggest software undertakings of all time

[gleaming sky]

is circle final LC or more implementation? Gave the vibe of implementation

[dusky plover]

people are getting their circle onsites rescinded lol

[nocturne oriole]

I mean who knows rico. Like i have my 2 stupid theories. If they released VR after sword art online it woulda popped off for gamers lmaooo. And also that if there was no recession we mighta succeeded

[gleaming sky]

bruh

[dusky plover]

bro

VR will never be pog without full dive

[brisk oyster]

did anyone hear back from roblox about an onsite after already being rejected?

[nocturne oriole]

VR chat funny tho

[dusky plover]

thats on elon to figure out at neuralink

[young peak]

I'm just waiting for the day we get to SAO levels

[dusky plover]

did you just get yours scheduled?

[nocturne oriole]

Also meta will VERY likely freeze hiring till 2024.

New grad life sucks right now

For sure

I would pay u buckets to work on my team

I would treat u to dinner

Call u handsome

👍

Nuke em

[dusky plover]

wtf

what about me

take me in as an intern

[nocturne oriole]

This tbh

????

[dusky plover]

@nocturne oriole knows

[runic wind]

Average meta employee rn

[wicked rivet]

does anyone know if draftkings ng does remote

or is it only boston

[fallen hornet]

just no news

[autumn ridge]

I think I got an offer from flexport.

[dusky plover]

poggg

[autumn ridge]

Recruiter said they are rushing to get my feedback to me before the deadline

But the team is traveling

[dusky plover]

how was the process

[autumn ridge]

Like why would they say that if it's a rejection or am I overthinking it

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah u overthinkin

[autumn ridge]

not great tbh. NDA so can't say a lot but very long and unclear questions

[nocturne oriole]

No cap

[autumn ridge]

They said "We are doing the best we can to get this over to you as soon as possible! The team is traveling this week so we apologize for the delays. I am hoping to get this over to you tonight but it may be tomorrow morning. We are doing the best we can to get this over to you before your deadline!"

[alpine matrix]

Is anyone noticing a pattern for bloomberg offers? Most of the interviews that happen are for t20 schools and others getting ghosted or is it just coincidence?

[nocturne oriole]

I have read messages like that before. Trust, means nothing

[autumn ridge]

hm okay that's good to know. ty for the insight

[nocturne oriole]

Good luck tbh and who knows if u feel good u are prob right tbh

Just keeping it real with u

[floral plank]

I don't go to a T20 school and my interview process has been smooth

[gleaming fable]

yeah recession came at the worst possible time for meta

[autumn ridge]

i appreciate it I was tripped up on the wording lol

[alpine matrix]

Did Bloomberg come to your college for interviews?

[floral plank]

yea

[autumn ridge]

same here I go to a terrible state school but I was reached out to directly on linkedin by the recruiter

[alpine matrix]

That is a different matter.

In these two cases.

[teal jackal]

ion necessarily buy it

[timber rock]

breaking news: good school = more interviews

[floral plank]

the process just has been heavily rng

[alpine matrix]

I really want it to be just coincidence lol.

[teal jackal]

its about being ghosted by bloomberg

[alpine matrix]

This.

[teal jackal]

bloomberg just no shows people this year

[alpine matrix]

Reddit is filled with such threads.

[teal jackal]

no showing is absurd since you had to get past screening to get an interview to begin with

[floral plank]

yea it is crazy

[autumn ridge]

I got no showed twice and then got to skip phone round so no complaints on my end lol

[timber rock]

Oh thought u meant the app getting ghosted

[alpine matrix]

No, app getting ghosted is not new now, sadly.

[alpine matrix]

You had a really good recruiter.

You mentioned it was a new guy.

[timber rock]

When ppl in this server say T20 or whatever are they talking about US unis only or top 20 world?

[autumn ridge]

I always assume US

[alpine matrix]

US mostly, or comparable Canadian Unis.

[floral plank]

still waiting for decision

[uncut umbra]

ah shit bro, sorry to hear that

[late kestrel]

me too no name state school and no tech company internships

[timber rock]

Ok cool

[floral plank]

it is scary to see that people get rejected after em round despite being asked no system design/lc questions

[weak latch]

Common Darth L

[autumn ridge]

wdym? How could you be asked no questions?

[alpine matrix]

One of my friend got accepted.

Today. It was super fast process. t20 school.

[uncut umbra]

bruh I am terrified for em round tbh

[teal jackal]

🔥

[ripe skiff]

@floral plank hello

[floral plank]

my bad I mean people said they have good interviews with no system design and get rehected

[uncut umbra]

I did relatively well on all the technicals and hr round so I hope the em round is more of a formality

[ripe skiff]

we go to the same school lol your username looked familiar

[timber rock]

I got my phone on tuesday

[uncut umbra]

do you think any part of that is poor perf throughout technicals relative to what they expect?

[teal jackal]

theres an HR round?

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

i thought it was screening interview + 2 onsites

and then final

[fossil jewel]

nah i dont go to t20

[uncut umbra]

final = hr/em rounds

two separate ones apparently

[fossil jewel]

not even t50

[teal jackal]

ohhh

[floral plank]

not sure maybe?

[teal jackal]

so 5 interviews for the entire cycle

[uncut umbra]

I only ask cause my hr person said that I performed very well throughout all rounds so em round is guaranteed going to happen

so I'm hoping I don't get dicked, but it could happen

[teal jackal]

n0ice

how do u know your hr person said that?

[uncut umbra]

vibed like hell with my interviewer today and forgot it was an interview for like 10 mins lol

[floral plank]

if that was the case then I would be worried since my vo2 was kinda messy

[uncut umbra]

asked lmfao

[late kestrel]

your recruiter goes back and touch bases with every interviewer you had and then you get voted on. if youre borderline on every interview, aka good enough to pass, but not good enough overall, i could see a reject

[teal jackal]

wow u outright ask?

[uncut umbra]

not straight up

but like

[fossil jewel]

think that was my case for the vo

[teal jackal]

FUCK

[fossil jewel]

borderline asf

[teal jackal]

my roommate on campus is cooking again

he always leaves an absolutely DISGUSTING mess

[uncut umbra]

"hey a bit worried about recruiting given how crammed bb is, any chance the interview might be canceled?"

[teal jackal]

in the kitchen

and never cleans up

[uncut umbra]

and she said there was no way

given performance

[teal jackal]

my roommate is unbearable

[fossil jewel]

ik bbg in general hires a good amount of ppl

[floral plank]

I see

[uncut umbra]

I am praying that my interviewers liked me, cause I can only really see the last interviewer really giving me a glowing rec

[fossil jewel]

gl

[uncut umbra]

gonna try to have good questions for bb em and pray that they also like me

I can vibe with most people too

[somber oyster]

Are you waiting from Flexport?

[fossil jewel]

know the why bbg

[uncut umbra]

ye I have a great answer to that

according to my vo2 interviewer

[fallen hornet]

thank god my manager's been delaying my offer

dawg hits me up every week like

did u get a competing offer yet?

[floral plank]

Did you get em/hr after vo?

[somber oyster]

oh you passed all final?

can i dm u bro?

[desert roost]

Did anyone give Veeva OA Java? What were the questions?

[fallen hornet]

return

dawgs a legit homie

keeps faking to his manager that hes too busy to deal w/ my offer

yessir

i also got upleveled too so ill go in as midlevel instead of new grad

the guy who got the same offer as me last year just made senior after working there for a year

[fossil jewel]

nah i got rejected, what i meant to say is that i think i was just aight, not mindblowing or quick to know whats going on

it wasn’t hard i unfortunately couldn’t focus bc i didn’t sleep the day prior

[fallen hornet]

yessir

the teams are pretty small imo

i think my team was 3 fulltime engineers, a principal engineer rotator

and two interns

yessir

cloudflare has two different engineering orgs

systems and solutions

ur gonna be paid like ass if ur in solutions

basically glorified tech support

systems gets paid fairly well

systems vs solutions disparity can be seen on levels lmfao

[west egret]

My school isn’t even top 100

I never got ghosted by interviewers

[tardy geode]

same bro

[lilac locust]

how do I get a job

[fossil jewel]

make an OF and share it on linkedin

await the "commenting for better reach"

[cobalt siren]

Atlassian vs Bloomberg?

[teal jackal]

Linkedin be like
"Guys there is someone holding my family hostage right now, someone call 911 right NOW and get them to come to our address"
Commenters: Commenting for better reach!

[fossil jewel]

do you want to work in nyc, have to be in person?

afaik atlassian is remote and they adjust with COL

[cobalt siren]

sorry wanted to say ignoring location and stuff

my situation is a bit wonky for location so location aside

[fossil jewel]

bbg is quite secure for a job tbh

[cobalt siren]

fair, i feel like atlassian is too but idk i guess

Ok my fault I should've been more specific - atlassian vs bbg in terms of work

[jaunty basalt]

Take Atlassian

[cobalt siren]

ignoring salary location and all that stuff

[jaunty basalt]

Oh nvm

I declined Atlassian cuz remote and nyc is the same as Seattle for pay??????????

[cobalt siren]

also which looks better in terms of name?

[cobalt siren]

wait why nvm

[jaunty basalt]

Would you rather work on trello or JIRA

Cuz u can’t do JIRA

I couldn’t

[cobalt siren]

really?

[jaunty basalt]

U can do confluence

Yes, it’s pst and Australia only

[cobalt siren]

oh i see

[jaunty basalt]

Could’ve changed

But for me that was the case

[cobalt siren]

orrr i can commit tax fraud and say that im working out of my parents in bay area but work in ohio

[nova swan]

State school and no bb at career fair and my first round went okay

[cobalt siren]

also i wonder if atlassian has good resume value

[jaunty basalt]

It’s does

Bruh

[cobalt siren]

compared to bb, mostly cause i know that everyone here knows the name

[jaunty basalt]

I’ve been asked why i didn’t take Atlassian more than anywhere else besides Apple

[cobalt siren]

but not sure about recruiters and what not for the future

yeah that's fair, shouldn't really be a big factor

[jaunty basalt]

I mean they’re pretty similar

Just that one has been around longer

Good wlb and such

[uncut umbra]

has cloudflare reached out to anyone yet

[jaunty basalt]

Also do you care about start date?

[cobalt siren]

seems like atlassian is generally regarded as good wlb

but that may be a big generalization

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz Atlassian Is only July

[cobalt siren]

is it strictly july? Like I heard that there's no early start but can I start in august or something?

[jaunty basalt]

Uh no?

[cobalt siren]

this is all contingent on offer btw but I think I did well in my final round

[jaunty basalt]

Oh

I mean my recruiter that gave me offer said that

Could’ve changed

U can have special circumstances

But like they treat it like cohort

[cobalt siren]

ah ok i see

[jaunty basalt]

Forget what it’s called

Day one or something (not Amazon )

[cobalt siren]

wait the important question is which company has better swag

[uncut umbra]

brennan delsing been sending me more consistent messages than my gf

you should be good bro

I can only see "OA"

ripplematch

australian open

yeeee

[fallow spire]

Passed all questions in tiktok OA, but it says my status ended 😦

[jaunty basalt]

In terms of color Atlassian wins otherwise it’s us

[uncut umbra]

viasat heavy rejected me tho lmao

[jaunty basalt]

Our backpacks are more expensive

[cobalt siren]

amazon?

[jaunty basalt]

Socks, shirts jackets

Way better

Vests too if ur into that

[cobalt siren]

wait which company? And what brand backpack lol

[jaunty basalt]

Bloomberg

I work there boi

I declined Amazon

[cobalt siren]

ah ok

[late kestrel]

viasat is weird. i made it thru a couple rounds last year and dropped out, reached out to the same recruiter in august and she seemed really enthusiastic, sent me links to apply and said that interviews would start soon. still havent heard anything though lol

[cobalt siren]

i wish i could work at citadel just for the lululemon

[jaunty basalt]

I can see their office from my desk

[cobalt siren]

atlassian got a nice 1k wfh stipend

[livid turret]

DM'd

[jaunty basalt]

You kind of have to have a stipend

It’s remote

[cobalt siren]

true lol

[jaunty basalt]

Here it’s 500

[cobalt siren]

does bb give windows laptops?

i see them in the videos

[jaunty basalt]

Oh

Yeah Atlassian is all mac

[cobalt siren]

dope

[jaunty basalt]

Because there’s more docker support on mac now we can use m1

But before that it was all windows or intel mac

[wheat seal]

No way

[jaunty basalt]

Wut

Who

Where

[late kestrel]

do zon for 6 months for the cash and then join atl

[jaunty basalt]

Thanks for saying it for me

Yeah if u intern it helps

So id just stay unless the team was not a good fit

[late kestrel]

cmon u rly think zon has a blacklist

nah theyd have u back in a heartbeat

[jaunty basalt]

He’s a recruiter

[late kestrel]

oh well thats diff

[jaunty basalt]

It’s a great company, we study the pay bands, and we’re familiar with the process

[gleaming fable]

for a 6mo stint yeah I doubt it, if you just do like 3 weeks or sumn that might be a lil dicey

[serene nymph]

how long does bloomberg take to reply after phone screen?

[ivory stratus]

god i have a midterm and im so ready to get it over with so i can just come home and grind mw2

[lilac locust]

@uncut umbra what is your offer

[dusty basin]

Yes

[signal ore]

Just got rejected by Apple after like 6 interviews

[rain patio]

Does anyone know JPMC's TC?

[uncut umbra]

gm

[green bronze]

Why is this?

I heard this before but I never learned why

[teal jackal]

focus/pip is pre-firing

leaving while on focus/pip is the same as being fired

[green bronze]

So why do they get mad if u leave

[teal jackal]

they dont get mad

[green bronze]

[lilac locust]

What’s that

[teal jackal]

they just wont hrie u again

[lilac locust]

And congryas @uncut umbra

[green bronze]

I mean it sorta makes sense but at the same time it seems like

[teal jackal]

LETS GOOOO CONGRATS

its like a log of knowing that theyre a "poor" performer

or whatever bullshit excuse

anyway

usually one click is all a hiring manager needs to undo it

[lilac locust]

What’s GM

[teal jackal]

i heard that "not eligible for rehire" does nothing if the new team wants to hire u enough

some managers dont care

oh

[uncut umbra]

lmao I've had it for 8 days

it's been meh the entire time lmao

[indigo raft]

do u guys think rejection falls into “next steps” 🥸

[lone rapids]

Yes

[floral plank]

^

[indigo raft]

sadge

[uncut umbra]

84k base, up to 10% perf bonus

[lone rapids]

What is COL?

[west egret]

cost of living

[lone rapids]

Oh

[wicked steeple]

anyone who got MathWorks hackerrank OA for swe, lmk how it went

[uncut umbra]

yeah, it's warren michigan so pretty nice tbh

and living with my gf means that col goes down even farther if I have to go to gm

[cobalt siren]

is it just me or do recruiters like to ghost after final round?

[split plaza]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-completes-twitter-takeover-11666918031?st=wu5af7s42wqfoso&reflink=article_copyURL_share

It actually happened

[lilac siren]

[wicked steeple]

noice

[lilac siren]

rip

[west egret]

I think someone from my school is still looking for a job after their Twitter offer got rescinded.

[lilac locust]

Are you gonna take it

LOL

[ebon quiver]

same before i was brutally rescinded

[lilac locust]

The CEO is gone

CFO

[ebon quiver]

twas the perfect job

literally

eh watever

[lilac locust]

so you going to gm

[ebon quiver]

i always get sad thinking about it

[uncut umbra]

I don't want to

[lilac locust]

why

you applied to 500+

only 1 offer

[split plaza]

And the survivors are going to get their TCs cut to Elon company levels LOL

[uncut umbra]

damn that's pain lol

still in processes tho

[lilac locust]

it says

500+ apps 1 offer

[cobalt siren]

so far

[ivory stratus]

recession has started

mission failed

we'll get em next time

[west egret]

I need everything to stay down until I start FT

[lilac locust]

are we fucked

[ivory stratus]

nah lol

it'll be fine eventually

like

neetcode was right

it sucks for now

but itll be fine

[lilac locust]

should i sit in 2yr job

then hop

[teal jackal]

rip twitter

[west egret]

We’re still up relative to March 2020

[ivory stratus]

yeah but it wont be bad forever lol

like

we literally chose the best major for college

with highest pay prospects and job prospects