2023_grads

[thorny shoal]

Currently in a BBG zoom call since 20 mins, No one's coming 😦

[sick hawk]

Hello,

I need many people's advice about my graduation.

I’m a MSCS Student and I have one semester left before my graduation. Because of the hiring freeze and layoff, I’m seriously considering extending my graduation.

If I extend my graduation, I will do internship for next spring and summer semester and graduate in december 2023. Then I have about 1 year internship experience.

Or should I directly graduate in 2023 spring because lots of big tech companies hire new grad student at this season?

[tardy geode]

email recruiter maybe?

[upbeat quartz]

Hello, could someone help check for me that if the no-reply email after submitting DoorDash new-grad application like the screenshot below? Thank you!

[upbeat quartz]

I believed I applied for new-grad role, and the no-reply email says "entry-level" as well, but I received OA with title "intern", and I thought OA for intern/new-grad are the same so it's ok, but after completing OA I got interview request for intern instead of new-grad.

[grizzled bronze]

They're making new grads interview for intern roles

[upbeat quartz]

I'm wondering did I apply for the wrong role or did they mess up my application?

[indigo raft]

oh wtf

[indigo raft]

I’ll dm u a recruiter’s email

[upbeat quartz]

Thank you!!

[gray dagger]

Damn you guys are getting OA’s huh

[teal jackal]

Lots of big tech tech hiring new grads this season? LOL we wish

Delay graduation since your life depends on it

[autumn ridge]

waiting to hear back from interviews is the worst. I wish you could just forget you interviewed until they get back to you lol. I just neurotically refresh email everyday for 5 days

[teal jackal]

Tbh us citizens shouldn't delay graduation

Ints should

[dreamy cliff]

same

especially if its a dream job 🥲

[upbeat quartz]

Exactly

[autumn ridge]

yeee imagining what your life could be like if they say yes lol

[dreamy cliff]

and then the rejection email comes along

[autumn ridge]

[dreamy cliff]

me w atlassian

[autumn ridge]

it's double bad if you told friends or family you were interviewing lol

[dreamy cliff]

oh god i never do that with family

[autumn ridge]

Sorry mom and dad I'm too dumb

[dreamy cliff]

my mom would constantly ask me how it went hows it going

i dont need that extra stress and embarrassment

i only tell my family if i get an offer

🤣

[autumn ridge]

yeah I keep my family in the loop sometimes if they ask but their pretty chill thankfully lol

[tardy geode]

guys before any interview how do you revise the problems ? like do you solve em again and stuff or like what?

[chilly burrow]

I tell my mom and a few close friends and thats it

[chilly burrow]

I solve leetcode problems multiple times

[lament summit]

practice same type of pattern, different question

[tardy geode]

i do this too but then question myself , am i memorising?

or is it normal

[chilly burrow]

I'm not memorizing personally

I just forget how to leetcode after a few months

So I do a few patterns over and over to refresh

[lament summit]

memorizing the patterns is okay

just dont memorize the question

[chilly burrow]

Memorizing the pattern is the goal

[tardy geode]

don't knnow why but i suck bad at some subpatterns of two pointers

[chilly burrow]

Practice makes purrfect 😻

[upbeat quartz]

Practice until it becomes muscle memory

[azure zephyr]

i dont tell my family about the details of me interviewing lmao

[teal jackal]

This is why u don't tell anyone lol

[azure zephyr]

if they knew how much these potential offers were they'd be pocket watching me so hardcore and i dont need that lmao

[teal jackal]

Same tbh

[lament summit]

i tell my family everything

not my friends

[teal jackal]

I try not to tell anyone unless I need advice from them

Like "yo what's the next stage of the interview process"

Is Bloomberg phone full leetcode or ood

I heard the final is OOD/sysdesign

[sudden depot]

has anyone interviewed with google for the apm role?

[lone rapids]

How many days after karat for palantir do u hear back?

[dense seal]

dm

[sonic coral]

Isn’t your nyc offer still like 200k+

[teal jackal]

My parents are going to be supportive of me and accept reality that I can't get a job that pays as well as Amazon

They don't even blame me for it

[grizzled bronze]

Tf, parents should be happy with whichever you choose

[sonic coral]

Yeah my parents were more like “you sure you can keep them waiting like that?”

[lilac siren]

has anyone heard back after draftkings final?

[gleaming fable]

bruh my parents would've been thrilled with any half decent white collar job

[sonic coral]

That’s wild imo considering you’re still making bank

[teal jackal]

Same tbh

[sonic coral]

Same lol, my parents were expecting me to make 80-90k

[lament summit]

id say pltr and netflix is on the same level

[teal jackal]

My parents have accepted that I'm probably making 5 figures as a grad

[gleaming fable]

honestly netflix's future is uncertain and trading firms are a whole different beast, idk about optiver but wlb can be bad in them

[teal jackal]

😭

I haven't even accepted it myself

I'm still fixated on 6 figures

Tfw I'm harder on myself than my parents are on me

I've reached that point in life

It feels surreal

[jaunty basalt]

IKR i was told to stop interviewing

[gleaming fable]

tech companies will always be there and making like 50k more and abandoning a life partner is not a worthwhile tradeoff imo

[sonic coral]

My parents were worried I’d get rescinded after nego

[teal jackal]

There is simply way too big of a mental barrier for me to accept an offer that pays 5 figures

[jaunty basalt]

Same

Guess who got lowballed

[gleaming fable]

even 100k more, that doesn't make as big a diff if you're already clearing 200

[jaunty basalt]

Super hard

[sonic coral]

Now they’re like “wait don’t you need to clock in, it’s 11am already”

[gleaming fable]

keep in mind how much taxes would've eaten out of that since that's all in higher tax brackets too, I think you made the right choice tbh

[jaunty basalt]

Oh no, I just show them I haven’t lost ID access so they assume Ik what I’m doing

[gleaming fable]

literally my parents

[grizzled bronze]

Tbh I think some people in this server need their parents to tell them that

[sonic coral]

~200k is honestly goated for ng rn because of the new tax brackets

[gleaming fable]

although I don't even have an office so it makes even less sense to them

[sonic coral]

If you make below 230 this year you get 3% less federal than last year

[teal jackal]

Should I wait until I get a good offer for SE2 until I buy a second car, or buy a car as soon as I get paid for the first time

I don't want to wait to buy a gas powered sports car

[sonic coral]

Like look at the new federal tax brackets for 2023

[teal jackal]

I'm worried that gas powered sports cars will be unaffordable by 2025

[jaunty basalt]

Let’s gooooo, lowballed paying off

[teal jackal]

You know what if people in the hood can afford a challenger srt on a welfare check I can afford one too one 95k new grad salary

[sonic coral]

I personally think there’s gonna be more performance hybrids

[teal jackal]

I do not want an EV

[sonic coral]

Hybrid != EV

[teal jackal]

I do not really want a hybrid either

[gleaming fable]

mans said he wouldn't want a mclaren

[teal jackal]

It depends on the car tbh

[sonic coral]

I get where you’re coming from because Priuses but like the Honda cr z was a hybrid and people loved that thing in manual

[jaunty basalt]

@rain patio you missed this part during office hours https://youtu.be/4oqK9JAmBVw

[gleaming fable]

all the modern hypercars are hybrids btw

[teal jackal]

I don't like Honda either

Not a Honda fan

I used to drive a Honda

[gleaming fable]

oh so you just have bad taste

[teal jackal]

I don't like them at all

[sonic coral]

I’m just saying like a hybrid Miata might be in the cards for the future

Which would be goated

[teal jackal]

We had an absolute turd of a Honda

[sonic coral]

Same with a hybrid brz

[gleaming fable]

was it a pilot?

[teal jackal]

Our Acura tsx was dogshit

Slow ass fwd shitbox

[gleaming fable]

bruh the TSX is literally a civic with a luxury interior and a slightly better engine

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah he’s a grad student

[gleaming fable]

idk what you expected

[teal jackal]

I want a German car tbh

Like 2 series coupe with a manual

[sonic coral]

If you thought the Acura was a shitbox boy do I have news for you

[normal palm]

hey did anyone do optiver oa recently?

[teal jackal]

I think I'll probably look for an m240i coupe

As a new grad

After job hop I'll get an m2

[gleaming fable]

just make sure you lease

[teal jackal]

That gen inline 6 is pretty reliable

[sonic coral]

My cousin had a 2009 335i back in like 2018ish? And that car was amazing but one day the power steering just completely shit itself

2-4K down the drain right there

[gleaming fable]

sheesh did that happen on the road

[teal jackal]

I think the e90 was dogshit quality

[gleaming fable]

honestly as curious as I am about german cars I wouldn't own one cause I want to be able to actually work on my own car

[sonic coral]

I don’t remember I don’t think so

[teal jackal]

E46 and e90 gen are time bombs tbh

[sonic coral]

If we talking shit that happened on the road tho

[gleaming fable]

if changing the oil is more than 2 easy steps I won't buy the car

[sonic coral]

He also had a jeep Liberty

And that shit died on him when he was camping in the mountains and was heading back at midnight

[teal jackal]

Honestly I was trolling, Acura isn't that bad. Just I'd never buy one myself

[gleaming fable]

exactly why I wouldn't own a jeep even though everyone around me loves them

although the liberty was p bad I can't lie

[sonic coral]

Every single time I was riding in that thing the dashboard was lit up like a Christmas tree

[gleaming fable]

nah you're valid, I'm a honda fanboy and I wouldn't own an acura lol

[sonic coral]

He was so glad to get rid of that thing

[normal palm]

can y'all talk about cars in general please

[gleaming fable]

the value proposition just doesn't make sense imo

[sonic coral]

No

[normal palm]

im tryna get some feedback about optiver's oa

[fossil jewel]

people talk LC and NG in general too lmao

[normal palm]

sorry to be THAT guy

[sonic coral]

This server is all about random convos

[normal palm]

ok but this channel is specifically regarding 2023_grads

[fossil jewel]

[sonic coral]

You must’ve not seen 2022_grads in it’s prime

[gleaming fable]

full_timers is probably a solid 1/4 car talk if you break it down lol

[sonic coral]

25% cars, 25% nyc talk for some reason , 25% shitposting, 25% techie posting credit usage

[teal jackal]

the s2000 is goated

[normal palm]

hey has anyone done optiver's oa/

[teal jackal]

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1500w,f_auto,q_auto:best/streams/2013/January/130118/1B5600812-technolog2B685AC6B-2A63-D48A-8636-64C97357FD6A.jpg

is it just me or does everyone inevitably get pulled over for speeding at some point in their life

like at least once

[shell dome]

am i crazy for wanting to turn down palantir to do another yr of school

[fossil jewel]

i do not drive yet

i wanted to learn after all the interviewing is over but now i have midterms

[teal jackal]

a bit crazy tbh

but i have absolutely nothing

so any offer would send me sraight to mental heaven

[lament summit]

yes

[dry fossil]

Heyy guys, is TN-1 employment-based immigration case?

It seems like non-immigrant employment-based

[crude saffron]

School is fun work sucks

Money doesn’t matter past a certain point

[teal jackal]

devg makes absolutely godawful takes, asked to leave cscareers.dev

sorry fam

tbh why im kinda bummed about graduating into a recession

because the earlier i start making money it would be nice

[crude saffron]

Oof

[teal jackal]

sigh whatever

what i consider a bad wage is enough to keep me on my feet until my SE2 job hop anyways

[crude saffron]

Should’ve just signed for amphibious company lol

[teal jackal]

i have 40 to 50 years of career in total anyways

i can afford to let my dreams wait

[sudden depot]

does anyone have the pdf for cracking the pm interview?

[teal jackal]

especially since i have no choice anyways

[lament summit]

most likely u will be downleveled

why does it matter?

[timber rock]

probably less than 1 in 5 engineers are women so its not really that weird

[teal jackal]

so youre telling me that prestige unironically matters for job hopping

fuck

this is eXACTLY why im depressed about the recession

[lament summit]

it does

[timber rock]

of course prestige mattyers lol

[teal jackal]

this is pretty much exactly why im so depressed and mopey this semester

[lament summit]

if ur going from a non-faang company to a faang level company ur gonna get downleveled 100%

[teal jackal]

all the effort in the world will be worthless

no going straight to SE2

man i was dealt a terrible deck this year

[timber rock]

thats exactly the reason why people go for faang internships so hard

[lament summit]

u'll just b slower, theres nothing wrong with that

[teal jackal]

tbh im tired of being slow

thats why im depressed abt that

No

[lament summit]

stripe is a faang level company

[teal jackal]

we're talking about local company -> FAANG/unicorn

[lament summit]

probably even higher than faang

[last summit]

lol

bro

[lament summit]

lmao

[last summit]

stripe ~= G

in those terms

[lament summit]

faang level

[teal jackal]

local company -> FAANG/unicorn is hopping from within the same level

[last summit]

he means like

kroger

to facebook

[lament summit]

faangmula/unicorn

[teal jackal]

So SE1 at local company would get SE1 at a FAANG/unicorn

makes sense

fuck

the pressure is REALLY on now

[lament summit]

yes but ur offer will still be higher than ngs

[timber rock]

i mean not necessarily

if you can prove you are se2 level then you will be se2

[teal jackal]

thats a good cope

ill take that

ill be happy to know that

[lament summit]

unlikely

but possible

[teal jackal]

hm in that case ill probably plan my big hop earlier, like 9 months into my first job, im going to make applying to jobs a second hobby of mine

[crude saffron]

Uber

[teal jackal]

SE1 at local company -> SE1 at faangmula/unicorn in 9 months

[crude saffron]

Should’ve taken amphibian company

[last summit]

just do that rn

theres still time

[lament summit]

this might still be a ng offer

need 1+ yr

i think

[teal jackal]

9 months doesnt convert into 1 year?

damn

that sucks

[mild lantern]

Hi all,
I got this for CoreOS team (at Apple) (file systems), any advice? My technical is coming up and they said they will be asking questions about C and "software prototyping" whatever that means in relation to QA. They are using coder pad io if that helps.
Thanks!

[teal jackal]

oh well

[lament summit]

just work for 2 months and apply lol

[timber rock]

not really much point in planning this far ahead considering for all we know big tech could still be frozen in a year

[lament summit]

aint nothing wrong with that

[teal jackal]

ill probably still be leetcoding after my first day of work as a new grad

[timber rock]

focus on getting the first job first

[mild lantern]

can anyone help with this? would appreciate it!

[teal jackal]

i do not think ill get into a target company

as a new grad

[timber rock]

instead of planning your 2nd, 3rd

[teal jackal]

getting a job at all will be great to me

[last summit]

look in #2023_grad_process for people that interviewed at apple and ask them

theres not many

[livid citrus]

is it bad to get rerouted to forward deployed engineer from software engineer?

[lament summit]

no it just means they think ur a good communicator

[livid citrus]

is it more competitive to get offer as fdse?

[lament summit]

no its the same

[last summit]

doubt it

[autumn ridge]

idk if it's bad but from what I've read it seems much more like technical consulting than SWE work which is great if that's what you want to do but not so hot if you want to be a dev

[livid citrus]

interesting

[timber rock]

i would assume less people are applying for fdse but the hiring bar is likely the same

[livid citrus]

ya for palantir

[last summit]

im guessing more people want swe than fdswe but the bar is the same

[teal jackal]

the false positive theory for hiring:
thousands of false negatives wasted to weed out one false positive is worth it

[lament summit]

yea swe > fdse, since same pay, better wlb

[teal jackal]

false negative: someone who is 100% qualified for the job but gets weeded out for being perceived as not worth the risk of interviewing/hiring

[last summit]

anecdotally from what i hear fdswes learn a shitton and have more exit ops if that's of interest to you

[autumn ridge]

wish me luck palantir HM round in 15 min 🙏

[teal jackal]

false positive: someone who is not qualified but still gets interviewed/hired

tbh this is why i am stressing really hard as a new grad

i dont want to keep deferring my goals in life

[last summit]

redirect that energy into prepping and getting it done

way more productive

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree

i kidna wish i could do the rest of my semester fully remotely

im sick of college

and being on campus makes me feel bored and lonely

forward deployment has its perks

i honestly enjoyed lockdown a lot

lockdown was awesome, if i had to do lockdown for covid again id be really happy tbh

[last summit]

its so easy to pass remotely while learning nothing tho lol

[teal jackal]

i understand why 99% of the world would be very unhappy

but i would personally be overjoyed

[timber rock]

i barely passed everything in remote classes lol

[crude saffron]

Proud P/NP abuser

Learn os in the last week

[fossil jewel]

i hate commuting to campus

p = np, n = 1, i solved it

[teal jackal]

my cousin inherited management of a bunch of local gas stations in japan from his step-grandfather, i envy him so much

imagine getting a hihg paying job with zero effort

😭

[faint igloo]

study with ufc in the background

[teal jackal]

tbh id be chill inheriting gas stations even

beats nothing

[timber rock]

lets just all be thankful that we're in the easiest and highest paying stem field

[crude saffron]

Just study 1 hr before exam doing nlp on previous mc tests

[fossil jewel]

sometimes they'd do

[faint igloo]

unfort lol

[fossil jewel]

fr engineering is way worse

and med school is hard too

[faint igloo]

time for a new bar lmao

[teal jackal]

time for a new bar

law school is pretty prestigious but its a scummy job tbh

lawyers are prestigious but i feel like people side eye lawyers now

software engs dont get side eyed except by Qanon ass nutjobs

[fossil jewel]

law school is hard as hell

[teal jackal]

"muh twitter is communism"

[fossil jewel]

honestly swe is easy money for more or less easier work

[crude saffron]

Y do u care about public perception

[teal jackal]

i dont really

i just think its funny

[fossil jewel]

lawyers get to wear nice suits

[crude saffron]

Yes

I don’t care about public perception

[teal jackal]

isnt superstonk full of copers mad because they got conned into buying gamestop

the smart people sold out while cheering on other idiots to buy gamestop

same with crypto tbh

tell idiots to buy in as you ssell out

[fossil jewel]

think it also all has to do with our constant demand for automation

how will the iPad kids be like when they grow up

[teal jackal]

i was a DS + ipod touch + desktop PC kid

those were the better days of my life

[ivory stratus]

Bro fr

[teal jackal]

my life hasnt gotten better since

[timber rock]

kids these days dont know the struggle of having to disconnect your internet when your parents wanted to call someone

[ivory stratus]

I remember doing that ds draw thing when I was a kid

[teal jackal]

pictochat?

i remember going to swim meets all the time as a kid

pictochat was POPPING

holy crap that was awesome

everyone brought their DS to swim meets

and we all played download play games

download play is still magic to me tbh

[last summit]

mf on glassdoor are tripping

this guy entered in the box on the application as an interview question

like ?????

[timber rock]

lol

[teal jackal]

niantic is a cool ass company

id love to apply someday

im interested in the product for sure

[hushed ember]

Has anyone got any idea about TikTok's application status meaning ? I gave the OA recently and successfuly solved all the questions however it shows "ended" on my careers page.

[ivory stratus]

should i reach out to expedia? been a week and 4 days since i took oa

still nothing

nah

[rain patio]

what are the new brackets (oh nvm lol)

[tawdry skiff]

wait really?

most of people I knew had a suit at work

but would wear normal clothes to work

then change out when client time

[ivory stratus]

Major Chad energy

[gilded vortex]

man just finished roblox final

feel pretty good

hopeful for offer

[teal jackal]

im probably going to wear supreme, balenciaga and gucci if i ever get a FAANGMULA/unicorn offer

💯

amazon on resume as a new grad has helped, but i feel like its more in the sense of
"if you think you have it tough now you would be absolutely FUCKED if you didnt have it"

than its like

"i am SWIMMING in opportunity thanks to amazon"

[timber rock]

what is your response rate

[teal jackal]

like 6%

[timber rock]

ouch

[gilded vortex]

true, if I didn't have a Big N company on resume, life would be tuff

[teal jackal]

if its bad even with big N, it would be even worse without

tbh i realized that TC doesnt have to be anything crazy

as long as its a respectable company with a respectable product and good tech stack

i'll be fine with the future job hop

excluding automatic OAs and resume rejects

around like actually 8% now

[lament summit]

ur like at 80%

21% is still insane

[timber rock]

im at 43% including rejections

i havent been keeping track of how much of that is auto oa's tho probably a sizable amount

[teal jackal]

i count all OAs as auto/worthless unless it actually leads to an interview

im very conservative with calculating my response rate

[gilded vortex]

Yeah doing good on OA and then being ghosted is worse than just auto reject

[timber rock]

ya im at 4% if you only include real interviews lol

[fossil jewel]

how is your resume???

[teal jackal]

i have gotten it peer reviewed like 50 times

[fossil jewel]

its a rough season

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

yeah im still trying to work on a positive attitude

[ivory stratus]

welp recruiter contacted

hoping for final round expedia

[teal jackal]

i know that the goal for me is to work on being happy with what i can get

but its not easy relative to expectations last year

[faint igloo]

wait so how many apps have u sent

[lament summit]

my moving forward is 25%

[teal jackal]

like 80 by now

80 companies

probably like 105 apps

[lament summit]

25.8%

lol

[faint igloo]

and how many interviews did u get?

[lament summit]

including auto OAs

[teal jackal]

i think ive had like 6 invitations to interview

[lament summit]

including auto OAs?

or no

[teal jackal]

i dont really keep track that well

[ivory stratus]

yeeee

[faint igloo]

no oas actualy interviews

[teal jackal]

yeah

[faint igloo]

bruh this isnt even bad idk what u on about

[teal jackal]

not sure if 5 or 6

i need to think

[faint igloo]

im at like 120 and 5 interviews

[teal jackal]

but i know that im already rj from 2 of them

[lament summit]

10 interviews

[timber rock]

6 out of 80 is pretty good especially considering you're probbaly waiting to hear back from a lot of oas

[forest aspen]

im on like 150 with like 3-4

[teal jackal]

yeah thats true

[faint igloo]

i also have amazon is my big one

tho 3 internships total

[teal jackal]

[lament summit]

10/58 for me

[teal jackal]

is that still on waitlist

[lament summit]

10 interviews 58 apps

5 auto oas

[faint igloo]

bruh ur cracked

[teal jackal]

gl ono

[lament summit]

yeah i didnt count auto oas

[reef kettle]

I have 5/129

[ivory stratus]

anybody know oa cutoff for ebay?

[faint igloo]

same i dont count oas in general

[reef kettle]

But I'm international and I withdrew from a handful of companies

[faint igloo]

just interview requests / phone screens

[teal jackal]

yeah itsa super wonky season this year

recruiting pipelines are overwhelmed

tbh

everything is arbitrary now

[lament summit]

yeah okay i double checked 58 apps 10 interviews

i think thats decent

[teal jackal]

that is p cracked tbh

im pretty excited for game dev applications for new grad to come out

[lament summit]

wish i got more

[teal jackal]

i want to apply for them too

[last summit]

js in 10 minutes

manifesting 2sum 🙏

[teal jackal]

good luck

[lament summit]

gl

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

anyways yeah i think game dev is exciting and meaningful

id love to work in game dev as a new grad

[lament summit]

how do u guys even have 100+ apps

r u guys applying to everything

[teal jackal]

yeah p much

[lament summit]

o

i only applied to companys better or at the same level as my prev company

[teal jackal]

look for non-tech companies

[last summit]

there was someone claiming to have like 1200 apps lol

[ivory stratus]

bro im just applying to everything right now

[lament summit]

ah

[ivory stratus]

just gonna reapply for ng positions next year

[teal jackal]

or boomer and local companies

[lament summit]

yeah i only applied very specific places

[ivory stratus]

esp for microsoft

[tawdry skiff]

I apply everywhere

[teal jackal]

yeah same jake

[timber rock]

i just apply to every ng role i see on linkedin lol

[ivory stratus]

hopefully meta puts out new grad next year too

[teal jackal]

im planning on reapplying for 2024 new grad

[timber rock]

research the company if i get an interview

[lament summit]

ah i see

luckily for me i alr had a return offer, so i didnt need to apply to every company

[faint igloo]

tbf theres def enuf unicorns and such to hit 100+apps

[crimson flame]

has anyone gotten implement some sort function for NG interview?

[lament summit]

.sort()

[zinc bear]

no and i hope i never do

[timber rock]

i wld not pass that lol

[forest aspen]

i would just do heapsort

[zinc bear]

its so dumb to test that when .sort exists lol

[indigo raft]

I did lol

tilted me

[zinc bear]

nordstrom asked me that in an intern interview once

and then ghosted me after a final round

sophomore year was tough

[teal jackal]

i wonder how competitive the job hop scene is gonna be

i wonder how many people unhappy with their new grad outcome are gonna try to do a second roll of the dice

[ivory stratus]

theres a lot more demand for experienced swe though

[teal jackal]

with YoE

[ivory stratus]

much easier to get another job after first

than it is to get first job

[teal jackal]

or am i the minority here

[ivory stratus]

right now

[teal jackal]

the minority of people who will hyperfixate on disappointing myself

even if in absolute terms its hardly a failure

i think we'll have another bull economy someday for tech

where VCs throw money at the most bullshit startups

[uncut umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/775309697015873566.webp?size=48

[tawdry skiff]

I hope

Being poor sucks

[ivory stratus]

i mean theres gonna be a big web3 boom

[teal jackal]

is web3 a meme

[uncut umbra]

that person is probably a) distinguishing between companies and applications, as I do, and 2) applying to every single position on linkedin that they can find

[timber rock]

web3 lool

[tawdry skiff]

I'm a meme

[teal jackal]

so true bestie ^

[tawdry skiff]

@pulsar mural

[uncut umbra]

you're a meme in this server

you're a god in IS

gods = memes

[azure zephyr]

have u applied to the blizzard role yet?

[uncut umbra]

blizzard has a new grad role??

link?

[teal jackal]

beats unemployment lol

[ivory stratus]

blizzard is a frat boi club

[uncut umbra]

sexual assault shit? or other reason

[timber rock]

blizzard sounds like a great workplace

[azure zephyr]

yea, i got an OA for it but never did it bc dont wanna start any new processes

[last summit]

[ivory stratus]

im just annoyed that you have to be ocnnected to blizz servers for mw2 campaign

like wtf

[azure zephyr]

https://careers.activision.com/job/R017508/Jr-Network-Programmer-Rotational-Program

ow2 has me so tilted fuck blizzard

[ivory stratus]

really? i like it

the only thing i hate about it is new hero is locked through battle pass

[azure zephyr]

ohh i was an ow1 player so i dont have to deal with the new hero stuff

[ivory stratus]

i was too

[teal jackal]

my dad has former colleagues at Rockstar new england, apparently they worked on GTA 5

and RDR2

[ivory stratus]

ow1 was pretty dope

[teal jackal]

i should ask my dad if i can talk to his colleagues about working at rockstar

[ivory stratus]

i was mercy main when it came out then played lucio pretty exclusively

[azure zephyr]

its just bc im having such a shitty time in solo q for comp

on console

[ivory stratus]

oooof

[azure zephyr]

literally have to carry hardcore to win

[ivory stratus]

yeah i play on pc

[azure zephyr]

AS A SUPPORT

WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO DPS BAP

[ivory stratus]

DPS isn't bad

just depends

i played widow and she was good

esp low elo climbing

[forest aspen]

better than ow1

[azure zephyr]

yeah its prob better from the dps side but im a support player so grinding on that

[ivory stratus]

i want what youre smoking

[azure zephyr]

dont sleep on dps lucio lmfaooo

[ivory stratus]

im support too

[forest aspen]

a kill matters in ow2

[ivory stratus]

the amount of kills ive gotten on lucio in ow2 is insane lol

[forest aspen]

i have yet to experience a 5 minute overtime match yet

and i get that like every other game

[lament summit]

r u accepting?

[ivory stratus]

bro im just at the point where i want a job

[lament summit]

[ivory stratus]

any job at this point

[azure zephyr]

i wish i could build a pc but im not ready to drop 1.4k on building a pc yet

[ivory stratus]

im so over this recruiting season

[azure zephyr]

esp with the gpu market

[ivory stratus]

really hoping that spring has some opening

[ivory stratus]

gpu market is fantastic right now

[lament summit]

cyu in nyc

[ivory stratus]

buying 3070 and 3080 is like

chefs kiss right now

i got my 3070 Vision under $600

and it handles 4k pretty well too

mostly play 1440p 144hz

[azure zephyr]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-with-triple-fan-lhr/6505083.p?skuId=6505083&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1002&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw79iaBhAJEiwAPYwoCDUucc7ZgqQCwvgnQzeR10vk-vn-ke6gjaXgeEIrfMmplMBYmdMVXBoCa8oQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

is that good deal?

[ivory stratus]

yeah that's good

[azure zephyr]

hmm okay nice

[ivory stratus]

3070 is the ultimate sweet spot

[fossil jewel]

damn

[ivory stratus]

you can handle 4k pretty well if you want but most people playing at 1440p

[fossil jewel]

should get a gaming pc

[ivory stratus]

i built mine i think

for around $1300

[fossil jewel]

the one i have is from 10 years ago

classic windows 7

[ivory stratus]

5600x, 3070, 1tb m.2

[azure zephyr]

my bf just spent like 2k building a pc

[ivory stratus]

you can spend a lot less if you go last gen

[azure zephyr]

still plays competitive games with controller

[timber rock]

still got my trusty 2070 super

[ivory stratus]

with ryzen just releasing their 7000 and nvidia releasing their 4000 series, prices have gone down

[azure zephyr]

yea gonna aim for under 1.5k whenever i do it

probably wont be until after i graduate tho lmaoo

[ivory stratus]

that's super easy

[dusky tapir]

guys whats better amazon or atlassian

[empty thorn]

does anyone know the full process for tiktok

[ivory stratus]

as long as it's 3000 series, it'll last you forever

[azure zephyr]

bet

[azure zephyr]

i would take atlassian personally but depends on what you're looking for

i have first round nov 1 👀 was ur Q from tagged?

[chilly burrow]

U hav leetcode prem?

[azure zephyr]

ohhh

[chilly burrow]

https://leetcode-company-tagged.vercel.app/

[low scroll]

just had de shaw phone

[azure zephyr]

hold on

[low scroll]

so nervous

dont know how i did

[azure zephyr]

https://leetcode.com/problems/rank-teams-by-votes/

similar to this question?

ayo?? can i dm

[dusky tapir]

im at final round stage rn. i interviewed for them for intern last cycle but couldnt do final round cause their spots filled up, now for NG i get to skip the line so i cant really speak for the initial rounds cause i dont remember. but i believe they asked me top k freqent

[lament summit]

get LC premium

lmao

[ivory stratus]

really hope this happens to me for msft next year

just skip oa/initial

[lament summit]

what company is this

LMFAOOO

[polar gyro]

i had the same thing an hour ago lmao

[lament summit]

thats a joke

[azure zephyr]

im planning on using java too so hopefully i dont get screwed

[lament summit]

[lament summit]

id probs take atlassian

[low scroll]

atlassian

[lament summit]

amazon hiring bar just keeps getting worse and worse

tho amazon will pay u more

[crude saffron]

Oh i thought desco was kinda tricky

[dusky tapir]

switching to python is was literally the smartest thing i did for interviews, java is good for actually engineering but in a time crunch, << python

[crude saffron]

Should I start playing osu?

[timber rock]

yes

[lament summit]

more like just get a good team

bruh some of these amazon interviews i just

[low scroll]

it is bro

[somber oyster]

somebody know what's Roblox minimum codeSignal grade?

[azure zephyr]

oh gotcha. hackerrank for interviews is actually so scuffed tbh, had the same thing happen to me in my expedia interview

[lament summit]

at least 820+

[somber oyster]

Too high

[teal jackal]

good team at Amazon > atlassian > taking a chance with a random amazon team

[dusky tapir]

i hated python too lmaoooo

[teal jackal]

you reckon 812 might squeeze me thru?

[timber rock]

how can you dislike python it's beautiful

[crude saffron]

Will osu help pick up chicks?

[lament summit]

gonna need really good scores on the other assessments

[teal jackal]

hm

im gonna give codesignal another try tonight

i hope i can get an 830

[somber oyster]

Roblox cognitive test is weird lol

[teal jackal]

ill submit my GCA everywhere if i can get an 830 tn

[lament summit]

wym too high

[azure zephyr]

yeah i did end up getting expedia and yea my first interview with them was shaky bc i was so thrown off by the hackerrank bs but i recovered in the second interview

[lament summit]

roblox is like 240tc right

[somber oyster]

I thought 780 is enough lol

[azure zephyr]

atlassian gave me a coderpad link so i thought they would use that not hackerrank

[lament summit]

u wish xd

[somber oyster]

oh then make sense NVM I didn't know that lol

[wheat seal]

Don’t think it matters. Anything 700. Probably just cognitive assessment that matters way more

Tbh the cognitive assessment is harder lol

[lament summit]

doubt it

[somber oyster]

Really tricky lol

[wheat seal]

Nah the cognitive assessment matters way way more

[lament summit]

dont think ive seen anyone under 800 pass to final

[somber oyster]

Is that test have NDA?

like secret?

[lament summit]

no

[somber oyster]

someone has making car assignment? lol

[lament summit]

everyone does

its all the same

[wheat seal]

I mean how did they do on cognitive

[lament summit]

car assignment and deer stds

[somber oyster]

REALLY? That's so sad to me:(

[wheat seal]

Cognitive was harder for me tbh

[warm sky]

I know people who got below 800 and made it to final. But they did really well on cars

[lament summit]

i think its probs weighted the same

[teal jackal]

even uber hiring bar used to be lower, 775 was enough for straight to final back then. 725 enough to get a phone screen before onsite

FUCK

i wish i was born earlier

i could have enjoyed the peak of runescape, counter strike and gmod

and have easier jobs

[somber oyster]

hopefully, it works... I never reached over 800 lol

[wheat seal]

The deer game was silly u guys don’t think? Pretty much just guess and check

[somber oyster]

Agree

[wheat seal]

Literally 0 problem solving

[somber oyster]

I don't know what's the answer lol

[wheat seal]

Same lol

[quaint zinc]

[somber oyster]

Do you know when we get reject after take roblox test lol

[distant rampart]

the bar is crazy high for everywhere this year smh

[wheat seal]

I’m not too sure tbh

[lament summit]

lowkey quant got a lil lower this year

or maybe its always been the same and i think too highly of quant lol

[teal jackal]

the bar for SWE is through the roof

this year SWE is harder

[wheat seal]

Yea first year that intern is easier than new grad search

[uncut umbra]

never got communication back from uber

I hate everything

[somber oyster]

Agree...and less job posting 😦

[lament summit]

the lowest

[timber rock]

feel like oa's are way easier this year at least compared to last year internships

Or mayb I just sucked last yr

[somber oyster]

ugh cap1 doesn't sponsor for F-1

[teal jackal]

i think the outside hire new grad route is going to be really tough for the foreseeable future
easier to just incentivize the return interns to stay

[lament summit]

[teal jackal]

since nobody in good faith actually wants to be stuck in this living hell

[wheat seal]

Yea I agree

[teal jackal]

I recommend all juniors rn just do their best

at their internships

i think that the new grad app cycle is going to be very competitive

[wheat seal]

There’s still companies coming out tho

Also have u tried recruiter dms on LinkedIn

[somber oyster]

Where do you guys looking for the job postings?

[wheat seal]

LinkedIn/Ripplematch

[split plaza]

How was it

[timber rock]

Linkedin and gradcracker

[somber oyster]

Only linkedin is not enough i think

I used that repo too but updates lil late

smart guy lol

[crude saffron]

quant is like same as faang i thought

[azure zephyr]

any offers besides expedia?

killing it

[lament summit]

zon ezpz

[floral plank]

Anyone else did their em in person for Bloomberg?

[dusky tapir]

fidelity is good for coasting but they hire dummies

[lament summit]

damn

lmao

thats rough statement

[azure zephyr]

expedia got that nice ass campus thoooo

[somber oyster]

Expedia is close now?

[grizzled bronze]

That's gonna be an adjustment. You'll save more money though. 🤑

[azure zephyr]

hows the tc for fidelity if yall dont mind

[west egret]

Wouldn’t Expedia be a good pay increase from fidelity?

[autumn ridge]

bad I bombed the coding question wasn't even that hard. oh well

[azure zephyr]

thats crazy for new grad in NC lmaoo

[split plaza]

Can I dm

[autumn ridge]

yeah can't say much though

I think it's based off your interview performance

[floral plank]

Mine is also in person for that

[split plaza]

Did you think you did well during the onsite

Yeah it’s so dumb

[autumn ridge]

yeah i did

[split plaza]

gdi lol

[azure zephyr]

like they have very specific things you can use the relo for?

[rich crown]

so... i thought i bombed the behavioural for Scale AI... but the recruiter wants to schedule some "time to chat" tomorrow... are they calling to give me a rejection?

my friend once got called for a rejection for a microsoft internship

[west egret]

They actually want records of what you spent it on?

[rich crown]

tru

🤞

[uncut umbra]

palantir is crazy tho

[west egret]

Spend the extra money for a nicer flight lmao

[grizzled bronze]

Does Fidelity allow full remote for new grad?

[teal jackal]

It seems like fully remote work is coming to an end at many places

Which I think is unfortunate tbh

[kind orbit]

Has anyone interviewed with TikTok for the new grad DS position??

[gilded vortex]

tiktok is just always ghost

applied for a few roles even and nothing

[wheat seal]

Isn’t it just codesignal

Oh they changed it then

Or maybe it was always hackkerank

[floral plank]

is there no lc for BB hm?

[late kestrel]

at least for new grads in person >>>>> remote for 99% of jobs/people

[floral plank]

ok that is nice to hear

[earnest tiger]

expedia ghosted me for like 1 month then send a rejection

yes

it turns out all the companies are doing it this year

shit

[cobalt ferry]

for tiktok im pretty sure its like solely on referrals

its pretty rare to get an interview without a referral and a rlly good codesignal/hackerrank

[sudden depot]

same here

[earnest tiger]

Has anyone interviewed at Five rings for their SDE role? How was the OA?

[last summit]

bfs?

that's pretty much this right https://leetcode.com/problems/max-area-of-island/

its not fixed per question you just have 45 mins to do as much as you can finish

need to finish 2 and start 3 to pass afaik

you can but you don't really need to

[cobalt ferry]

has anyone done the first atlassian tech interview?

[last summit]

it's pretty standard lc format so not unclear as-is

yes

just write correct code that's reasonably optimal and you should be fine

they don't nit

[glass knoll]

correctness is what matters. communication doesn’t really matter too much. my interviewer seems to not even care about what i think, just whether my code is correct

[teal jackal]

Referrals aren't that useful at the new grad level anymore

[west egret]

So I turbo bombed BB EM round....but recruiter just send me an email to speak with me regarding my interview...

Is that good or bad? lmao

[teal jackal]

I feel like companies are realizing that referrals are easy to just cheese online

I just cold apply now since referral does nothing

[cobalt siren]

sounds like good news haha, I feel like I did well and haven't heard anything

cause you were after me iirc

[thick shell]

Has anyone heard back from American Express like at all?

New grad SWE, PM etc

[west egret]

Yeah but I turbo bombed it

[mighty crag]

Got citadel oa any tips on how to prepare?

[west egret]

Interviewer was really nice and stayed past the 45 mins to answer my questions though

[cobalt siren]

you never know, sounds like you got the offer

i dont want to jinx tho

[thick shell]

Damn sorry bout that, they cancelled for the the other entry level role you applied for right?

Gotcha

I'll try to cold email or something

but for some reason their email format is hard to find for me

I lowkey just want to chill in Arizona for a bit

[azure zephyr]

GM

[thick shell]

I haven't tried NC but I'll look into companies there

[thick shell]

GM

[west egret]

Bro I really hope they don't set up a meeting to reject lol

[low scroll]

@thick shell

ima keep it a buck bro

arizona is not the move

[thick shell]

Wait why😭, I always thought Arizona was chill cause it’s near California and other cool places

[thick shell]

Is theres just like nothing to do?

Or is it just hot as hell and thats why it sucks

[azure zephyr]

sorry i meant general motors LMAO

[west egret]

recruiters don't include explanation marks in their email when they plan to reject you, right?

[azure zephyr]

i go to school in az and its like not the worst thing in the world, i like it a lot more than the south where i grew up

summer is endless tho so hot

[thick shell]

Oh 😂, bet bet I’ll apply there as well

[uncut umbra]

roblox sent me a codesignal to the account with email A. I want to use the score on my account with email B. if I add email A to the account with email B, can I send that score over?

[low scroll]

both bro

[azure zephyr]

pretty sure bloomberg doesn't call to reject

[low scroll]

plus cali itself is def much much better

arizona only has 1 season

[thick shell]

I see I see, I know its hot as hell for sure and I go to school in the south. From the outside looking in Arizone seems semi affordable so thats why I was checking it out as a potential new grad spot

[low scroll]

nothing to do

[thick shell]

So expensive tho😩

[low scroll]

wait a minute

asu?

[west egret]

Hope I'm not an exception

[thick shell]

If I go to Arizona it probably wont be a long term stay I’m thinking 6months to a year type thing

So we’ll see

[azure zephyr]

maybe 🌚

[low scroll]

no way

i go to asu too

[foggy perch]

maybe you're both secretly talking to yourself

[azure zephyr]

az is def more affordable than cali (as in LA/San Diego/Bay Area), but phoenix has the highest rate of inflation in the country rn. when its not boiling hot the weather is really nice, like rn its starting to stay in the high 70s-80s but it took FOREVER to get that point (like from may-now). there's things to do if you have friends but the food is kinda lacking imo

[azure zephyr]

forks up 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

theres a u of a person in here too

[deep wasp]

@cobalt siren nice pfp, that’s my fav album of all time

[azure zephyr]

i'll say that arizona is a good transition into cali if that's your end goal. plus you can roadtrip to LA, SD, mexico, vegas in like six hours or less

[low scroll]

maybe im just an arizona hater

left like my life in the bay was 1000x better

[hexed moth]

ur going to have crime in any big city xd

[jaunty basalt]

Best Ivy League

[azure zephyr]

well duh the bay is better than az by a long shot

[azure zephyr]

holy shit you too?!

[jaunty basalt]

No lol

But yes

[azure zephyr]

that cost of living tho

[low scroll]

yeah true

[timber rock]

Waiting for Expedia too but I didn't ace it

[low scroll]

the environment and people in the bay too

[timber rock]

[low scroll]

much more my type

[azure zephyr]

but if theyre coming from the angle that they dont want to spend as much $$$ while also having some of that cali culture, az could be a match

it is very much what you make of it tho

[cobalt siren]

Bruhh thank you me too, didn’t think anyone would recognize it haha. Love it so much

[azure zephyr]

sometimes az feels very cookie cutter

esp the asu people...

[low scroll]

soCal culture

norcal culture a lot different

more similar than different but still

[azure zephyr]

yea ive heard, ive spent a lot more time in socal than norcal for sure. are you moving back?

[low scroll]

i want to go to NYC

you?

[azure zephyr]

either az or seattle

we'll see

[low scroll]

you got zon no?

[abstract tinsel]

How many stages does Bloomberg have? I did one phone interview, just finished another 1-hour long one and the interviewer scheduled another hour long one at the end of the interview. Does anybody know?

[azure zephyr]

yep. zon, expedia, gm, wells fargo

trying hard for atlassian tho

[low scroll]

wtf

i got 0 offers rn

bruh

[azure zephyr]

two summer internships? idk if that counts

bro where are you applying

[low scroll]

which companies

i've applied to like almost everything in coderquad repo

[sonic coral]

What

[fossil jewel]

fr it’s a mess nowadays

[azure zephyr]

omg if i say which companies exactly im definitely doxxing myself LMAO but nothing crazy a defense contractor & F500 company

[fossil jewel]

idk i got harassed on the trains before

[low scroll]

hmm

i got a pretty good company this summer

but 0 offers rn

[azure zephyr]

when did you start applying? you gotta make sure youre going for the local az companies too to build up confidence

[low scroll]

august

hell nah id rather be unemployed than work for AZ companies

[sonic coral]

I mean it’s worse than before no doubt about that but like it’s still one of the safest cities in the country

[low scroll]

bronx

very safe

[sonic coral]

Well yeah but you can see crazies everywhere

I witnessed a fight at the station right outside the google office a few weeks back lol

[azure zephyr]

fuck that i want money

[low scroll]

when did you apply to zpn

zon

[azure zephyr]

like aug

think i completed process early sept

[low scroll]

i applied aug 1st

[azure zephyr]

or late aug

[low scroll]

no OA

[fossil jewel]

bronx the safest in the whole world

[low scroll]

i agree

[azure zephyr]

amazon OA is very rng

[low scroll]

no OA from expedia after strength assessment

haven't applied to GM or wells fargo tho

[placid vessel]

what’s a good starting salary for a new grad dev position at an NYC consulting firm?

[sonic coral]

It’s east ny

[thick shell]

Holy shit i didn't know inflation was that bad there, and as long as they have a lot of chipotle spots and chinese places I'm chilling tbh lol

[placid vessel]

software solutions

[low scroll]

i've only had bloomberg and palantir interviews so far

and de shaw for intern

[azure zephyr]

but would you rather be unemployed?

[azure zephyr]

LMAO yes theres a ton of chipotle spots and if you do end up moving to az DM me and ill give you two Chinese spots that have good food for cheap

ur wild bro the privilege is showing idk 😭

[low scroll]

what the spots

[azure zephyr]

idk i just know that bills have to get paid regardless of if im happy or not its a toxic mindset but thats the country we live in

[azure zephyr]

mayflower is my fav

[thick shell]

Bettt, appreciate it

[low scroll]

shi thats highkey far from campus

[glass knoll]

the interviewer asks you to run your code on their given test cases. if it passes, u should be good

[west egret]

I was actually wondering about that because I got q1 and q2 on TikTok HR a little too fast.

And I’m not cracked at LC

[fossil jewel]

how was it

ended up having to withdraw my app

[west egret]

I did 1 and 2 without much problem. I saw 3 and noped out

I don’t remember

I just knew my brain wasn’t big enough

No interview yet. I only did it last week though.

[hexed moth]

i legit did not do any of the questions and still got an interview with tiktok

last year

dont ask me

nope

i have pure research on my resume

I did the OA in october, and out of nowhere mid jan they reached out

let me clarify, i did the OA but i was no new to lc style stuff i didnt answer any of them

I did open the OA and look at it for 45 minutes

[ebon quiver]

bruh

i j had an interview where the guy asked me a fucking 2D dp

mega fucking hard

[eternal mortar]

which company

[gleaming fable]

same I literally just closed out of the OA and they still gave me phone

[willow pulsar]

Does anyone know figma tc? Levels shows a wide range from $125k-255k for L1

[gleaming fable]

which I choked on

but also it was tiktok so bad wlb and it was for SDET not even SDE

my interviewer even said unprompted that tiktok is "intense"

[ebon quiver]

some startup

[night magnet]

Dang

[last belfry]

Wats a good starting salary

What’s avg for nyc lol

If anyone knows

Is 140-160k peanuts bad lol

I see people getting 200+

[serene fable]

I thought nyc wasn't too bad in terms of crime when compared to other big cities? Though the vibe might not be good

[last belfry]

Hmm I c

[serene fable]

Which location? Don't think anyone's getting 200k outside of the bay area or new york

Which adjusted for col is about as much as 140-160k in another metro

[gilded vortex]

Yeah 200k+ only usually for trading or nyc or bay

fk that

[last belfry]

Wrong I had a trading company for less lol

[gilded vortex]

Yeah some trading companies lol

[last belfry]

Sig should really increase their pay

[half sable]

That's an offer

[last belfry]

To compete with other trading firms

They don’t pay their developers well

Compared to these other firms

But then again their interview was also p simple

[serene fable]

The stories are bad, but do the stats back it up? No doubt crime is worse than pre-pandemic, but I've seen stats that say most other metros have crime rates as bad or worse right now

[last belfry]

Any way I can prep for c1 powerday have mine on Wednesday

[hexed moth]

are ur friends sheltered

[serene fable]

It's not an excuse as much as a different perspective

[hexed moth]

I mean you can say numerous subway shovings

[dusky tapir]

Does anyone know what the process channels r for?

[hexed moth]

yeah to say what's going on in ur recruting process

they have some stat thing on the website

[dusky tapir]

So we can pm for info?

[serene fable]

It's hard to distinguish legitimate problems with crime from media outrage

[hexed moth]

sometimes people are open to do that

but like millions of people take the subway each day

[serene fable]

Though feelings of safety absolutely matter

[teal jackal]

i would like to get advice from other people too
but anyways go to the c1 workshop, they cover the technical and case interviews

idk waht the c1 bheavioral is like though

[hexed moth]

I mean the media makes money off fear though

[teal jackal]

45 minutes of behavioral grilling sounds exhausting

[hexed moth]

https://new.mta.info/coronavirus/ridership

there's like 2-3 million people using the subway each day

of course you're going to hear about the one person who got shoved

[compact obsidian]

well the media makes money off of clicks and viewership

[hexed moth]

but that's a 1 and three million chance lmfao

[compact obsidian]

but fear and anger are the best emotions to achieve that

[last belfry]

Well it’s too late now

[hexed moth]

again, I don't really worry about that stuff

I'm more likely to die climbing than a shooting on the train lmao

that's like saying you don't want to drive because there's a chance you could die in a car accident imo

but at the end of the day it's entirely up to what you feel comfortable with

when i fly i could not land in the net if i mess things up, but i still do it anyways

[night magnet]

Normal

[reef kettle]

I don't think getting attacked on a train is 1 in 3 million

[night magnet]

Why c1, talk about a project you’ve worked on, etc

[night magnet]

Def not

Gotta be less

[serene fable]

When was the last time someone said a city has gotten safer?

[reef kettle]

Yeah same. I live near Philly so my view may be skewed but I don't even take the train that often and I've seen multiple things going on

Each time