2023_grads

[tawdry skiff]

[lament summit]

hookers and blow

[chilly burrow]

gib job 😡

[lament summit]

obviously

[formal fable]

Didn't feel the same level of randomness from FAANG and they're pretty high up there.

[hexed moth]

think id save up to buy a brownstone in nyc

[tawdry skiff]

clothes are expensive

[lament summit]

ima save up to buy u

[hexed moth]

but i think those are like 13m lmfao

[tawdry skiff]

I want simple things

clothes, food, roof

[formal fable]

I did not change, I merely substantiated on what I earlier said briefly because someone decided to point out the exception

[lament summit]

min wage can get u that

[tawdry skiff]

[lament summit]

cap

[formal fable]

Sure. So reject after interview or a phone. Why give out OAs,waste a weekend and then reject

[foggy perch]

What's t0

[rain patio]

Funny, I got past resume screens for all trading firms except 5R and only Amazon in big tech.

[formal fable]

You're the one arguing

[lament summit]

js, hrt, jump

[formal fable]

right here

[tawdry skiff]

Shonen Jump St. Trading

[foggy perch]

Oh ofc t0 is better

[tawdry skiff]

it's impossible to get into

[hexed moth]

ur just making a statement

idk how that's arguing

[lone rapids]

@queen valve how should i prep for palantir karat

Tips on answering the questions

[cinder ingot]

129k base 110k rsu 40k first year bonus

[lament summit]

like any other coding interview

[tawdry skiff]

wait @queen valve are you done?
Palantir is NYC

[sonic coral]

Nah there’s brownstones for 2-4mil I think

[lament summit]

ur comparing apples to oranges

not even the same job

[hexed moth]

thiel bux

not sure if my bezos bux are any better

[tawdry skiff]

just watch, NYC going to get HRT and Radix

[dense cloud]

how about bloomberg then

[tawdry skiff]

I got denied

[dense cloud]

are u gna try and nego bloomberg using palantir @queen valve

or u already rejected them

[tawdry skiff]

they put your picture through AI to see how hot you are

[formal fable]

You getting preachy about me observations on HFT firms filteration criteria, which, as I have pointed out based on multiple observations, is seemingly basic (GPA, uni tier). Someone pointed out an exception to that. I then substantiated that obviously I'm talking about a pattern here, not a universal law. You then, pointed out that "Thats how most companies work". Most companies are FAANG or lower, not HFT tier, so I said, FAANG gave me a fair shot, not random rejections. And then you started talking about HFT being a notch above and all that. And here we are.

[tawdry skiff]

I did not meet the standards

I was 8.81

still wasn't good enough

[formal fable]

I guess that makes for a sound argument

[hexed moth]

what's funny about this paragraph is i wont bother reading it but if he had posted it as singular sentences over and over i would have

[formal fable]

I did. I just compiled it in a single message for the benefit of @queen valve

[foggy perch]

What was the argument even about

[formal fable]

Not really. Just random banter

[hexed moth]

how many hachiyukis are in this chat

[formal fable]

42

[tawdry skiff]

POST YOUR PICS

[hexed moth]

like a selfie?

[tawdry skiff]

WE ARE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING SHONEN JUMP TRADING STREET OA

YOU MUST SCORE 9 OR HIGHER ON ATTRACTIVE SCORE

SHONEN JUMP TRADING STREET DOES NOT HIRE UGLIES

[rain patio]

What does it matter??? Of course firms are more likely to take ivy grads..? Why are you complaining about it soooo much? I attended a shit school and I still made it past resume screens for most of these places and got some offers, so who’s to say you can’t? Just put in the work instead of blaming it on ur school

[hexed moth]

yo mommas house

xd

[timber rock]

[hexed moth]

do people still do yo momma jokes

[tawdry skiff]

WE REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU DID NOT PASS OUR OA

WE DO NOT ACCEPT UGLIES AT SHONEN JUMP TRADING STREET

[formal fable]

"Some Signal" can be skills, background, degree program. Which is most reasonable firms use for filtering and then work on interviews. We are talking about HFTs, and their signal restrictions are absurd and blunt, unlike the rest. Rejecting after an interview, sure. Giving out 2 hour OAs, receiving perfect scores and rejecting? That's not "most companies". That's just them HFTs

[tawdry skiff]

THE ALGORITHM DOES NOT LIE

[formal fable]

I did. I can complain and work at the same time. You know, criticize what's broken, work with what you have.

[tawdry skiff]

I HAVE PASSED

[brave dirge]

is there a channel to see offer packages

[tawdry skiff]

no

[formal fable]

It is related in the sense that I am saying "HFT resume signals" are unreasonable, blunt and imprecise. Unlike most firms.

[tawdry skiff]

plus sana is ass

IU OR BUST

[brave dirge]

The new_grad_salary_sharing has been dead for a while

[formal fable]

Just a fair shot, not hand outs.

[crude saffron]

Yes

[dusky plover]

bro uploads an image of IU and posts the score

[formal fable]

That, I know. I understand and I agree. Feels shitty anyway to study through grad school course work, allocate hours for prep and then stressful 2+ hour tests to perform well and then to be screened out while hearing about others who did not perform as well getting next round cause "signals".

So, not disagreeing with you on the "time that can be afforded for interviews". It's shitty regardless

Long and successful. I don't mind if I sucked at the OAs and then got rejected

[crude saffron]

It happens cause companies might not have resources to interview everyone

Hrt recruiting is also bad

For ib I think either jpm or gs take a stack of resumes and randomly throw out half

So it’s less work to rr

Gs is probably Google

I don’t know anything about ib not swe

[lament summit]

CS Majors

is probably better

[crude saffron]

I just like giving confident takes with no strong priors

I thought u couldn’t jump directly to pm

[gleaming fable]

IB has horrendous wlb but crazy upside and exit opps so its only worth it for true grinders

[crude saffron]

Idk some ib pays a lot

Boutiques

Evercore is like 300-400 ng iirc

[gleaming fable]

IB pays a shitton if you do it right yep

[crude saffron]

No

[rancid sun]

Usually base is around 130 and their bonus added its lower 200s

[crude saffron]

Nice

[teal jackal]

i really hope that for industry hires, that prior company prestige doesnt matter that much

since im planning on going from medium size/local company -> FAANG/unicorn

within or before 2025

i say planning since ive lost hope in getting into FAANG/unicorn as a new grad

i realized that its healthier to look in the long term

rather than fixate on my inevitable failure as a new grad

accept failure this round, and use it as ammunition to motivate myself for next round

[serene fable]

I mean getting a medium job isn't a failure, especially in this economy

[teal jackal]

inb4 i still fail to get into FAANG/unicorn even as an industry hire

[brave dirge]

this year is very different from other years. if you can secure an ok job that's already a huge success

[coarse charm]

the amount of senior devs and EMs with "medium jobs" on their linkedin should be proof in of itself

[teal jackal]

i just remember the angelina lee resume and it pretty much proved how much prestige matters

[formal fable]

Tis step by step. I started off at a BS team at a no-name bank. Moved onto analytics startup with "bro" culture but more pay and better work in 1 year. Moved onto software automation startup with top tier founders (multi-billion VC backed, top tier tech pedigree) and peers, double pay, SSE in 1 year of joining, moved to grad school, gonna move onto something better probably.

So... crawl, then walk, then run.

[foggy hinge]

Anyone know the tc breakdown for Palantir new grad?

[serene fable]

Does the full timers channel have any info on industry hires?

[teal jackal]

medium jobs?

Yeah, is there a community on discord for software engineering job hoppers?

i might start hanging out there

[formal fable]

Isn't that like all CS job forums? Blind, cscareers, etc

[teal jackal]

this is an overwhelmingly new grad/intern chat though

not a lot of info for people looking into the industry hire route

or support

[serene fable]

Maybe #full_timers ?

[formal fable]

Yeah, in this channel. Hop onto the actual forums like Blind.com or subreddit, etc. There you'll find veterans like me

[teal jackal]

doesnt look like full_timers has that much discourse on job hopping

[formal fable]

Nope. Before grad school was all in India

[serene fable]

Does blind have people who aren't at big n jobs though?

[teal jackal]

i figured that i should start looking into the industry hire route

and start doing my homework on job hopping

since new grad search is pretty much dead to me

[serene fable]

Could still get lucky on a big n too, no need to give up yet

[teal jackal]

im leetcoding+studying sysdesign now, its actually dual use tbh

helps me prep for my remaining interviews

and preps me for my job hop

[coarse charm]

its too early to decide new grad search is dead lol

[west egret]

Just did TikTok OA. Did 2/3 coding questions and noped out of the 3rd. What are my chances? lol

[serene fable]

You can count yourself as a new grad up to a year after you actually graduate too, so if you're a 2023 grad you have even more time

[formal fable]

Rep I suppose. Money is great always, but when you scale things up, beyond 5 years, Big Tech name and numbers overshadow most, if not all

[formal fable]

I did all 3 right. Haven't heard back in 3 weeks, lol

[serene fable]

Also hard to follow the unicorns

[west egret]

First 2 we’re okay. 3rd was like my brain isn’t big enough for this.

Not that it was hard exactly but I’m not good at LC.

[serene fable]

I thought Google doesn't even pay all that much, it just has a really solid culture

And prestige of course

[teal jackal]

kinda is, im not banking on many more companies with 150k+ TC posting apps this season

[formal fable]

In new grad, or early career. Like I said, rest of the industry is about the long term. Google L5 onwards will be hard to beat

[serene fable]

Maybe working at a unicorn then going to Google after a few years is the best

[formal fable]

Just focus on whatever offers you're getting man. You'[re ignoring the fact that most start off low, few work hard to scale up, fewer work hard long enough to reach the top. Everyone peaks at their own unique time, some peak early and taper off, maintaining that sweet 250k NG offer for next 5 years. Others scale.

Scale >>> early peak.

Focus on work, enjoy what you get when you get it

[teal jackal]

honestly my goal is to someday get into a pre ipo unicorn

yeah i think the pre ipo unicorn route is interesting

get a big stake in helping launch the company, and a big chance at a TON of money

[serene fable]

How do you figure out which pre-ipo startups are worthwhile?

[teal jackal]

my goal as a senior dev is probably there

i have level 2 autism and am probably not legally allowed to have children because of that, so idc about WLB as an adult

[formal fable]

Grinding for the next big offer I suppose. Months away from graduation

[serene fable]

Startups feel a bit to close to a lottery for me personally

I'm a cs grad, what are friends?

[teal jackal]

I have level 2 autism so 90% of things are meaningless to me tbh

[formal fable]

Senior Autism

JK

[teal jackal]

like pretty profound, but not so profound that youre literally unable to talk

i honestly dont even know how i survived all these years

probably through the tough love approach of not getting any accomodations and just letting my entire life be a trial and error experiment

[sonic coral]

Tf? People with autism aren’t allowed to have kids?

[formal fable]

Felt the same. But I managed to pass all cases. TBF, most reported TikTok OA to be pretty hard so this is not unexpected

[teal jackal]

im not sure how the laws on eugenics work tbh

but i remember at some point we weren't allowed to

[sonic coral]

Is this some eu thing

[teal jackal]

we used to get sterilized

some places we still do

[chilly burrow]

Lik decades ago?

[teal jackal]

yeah

[chilly burrow]

Idt dats a ting in most developed nations

[sonic coral]

Bro decades ago they were still giving lobotomies

Idk if that’s the best metric

[chilly burrow]

Decades ago gay marriage was illegal too

Don't compare old standards to today lol

[teal jackal]

if i ever had a kid id probably not raise them the way i was raised

learning in life through nonstop trial and error sucks

id prefer if someone just told me what works and what doesnt

[chilly burrow]

I tink all good parents try and raise their kids better (or as well) as they wer raised

[bold pier]

Guy in my class rn asked if he uses any social network, he said LinkedIn

[sonic coral]

So is level 2 autism like basically hard to understand social cues and things that are “common sense” to neurotypical people?

[chilly burrow]

So dat souns good w me 👍

[teal jackal]

like im decent at learning leetcode, like conceptually i can understand most of the leetcode problem pool within an hour

but i am GODAWFUL at life skills

[chilly burrow]

I only hav Discord, Reddit, LinkedIn, Whatsapp, Reddit, and Snapchat

[bold pier]

Is that where you found your bf?

[teal jackal]

it takes years of trial and error for me to figure out my life

[chilly burrow]

Is dat a social media network?

I don unerstan 😔

[sonic coral]

Do you have any kind of support network either friends or family

[bold pier]

Woah, I goto NYU and think I'll never get cuffed

[chilly burrow]

I'll try it, tanks 🙏

[bold pier]

Don't hit on me, I am taken

taken for granted

[chilly burrow]

It'll be added to my extensive collection of hook up lines

[teal jackal]

i have family who are supportive of my goals and help me when i ask, but are totally unsympathetic to the concept of autism

their response be like "just have a better personality lmao"

[chilly burrow]

Dam dat suks fr

[tardy geode]

my biggest regret in life is to be a 2023 grad

[dusky plover]

berkley????!?
you mean
UC🅱️

[sonic coral]

That’s a shame

Are you formally diagnosed?

[teal jackal]

nobody is perfect but im just glad i have family in my life

[solemn crag]

How many of you plan to sign multiple offers to hedge rescindings and renege later on?

[teal jackal]

i a lways spell it "berkley" just to piss the mfs off

lolol

[chilly burrow]

Don't feel 2 bad, szn still has a lot of stuff that still hasn't opened/started. Like Gem, Afresh, Airtable, Airbnb, Zwift

[teal jackal]

i dont just use berkeley, i spell it wrong too

berkley

^

[chilly burrow]

Airtable opened

[teal jackal]

yeah its unlikely a lot of those companies will open up

[dusky plover]

post this on berkley subreddit

[chilly burrow]

Afresh is supposedly opening according to ppl on the server

[teal jackal]

the odds are against our favor tbh

[chilly burrow]

Gem is prob cuz of a recruiter I talked to

[dusky plover]

trueee

[chilly burrow]

Either way lots of other opps as well

Landing a smaller company for ng is fine

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree

[chilly burrow]

You can always jump ship after a year

[bold pier]

Doing system design like crazy, gonna apply to every SSWE job in sight!

[teal jackal]

im okay with going to a local company

[chilly burrow]

HR software startup

Idk, but with 1yr of exp it's much easier

[teal jackal]

I think what's more important to me at the moment, is working on a good tech stack. A good and interesting tech stack with a good future is what will matter most for me, in terms of learning on the job and building a good direction to find another job in the future.

And even if I'm completely unable to hop or get something to stick, at least I'll like the company even if I'm not paid that well.

[chilly burrow]

Lol how do u kno abt dat

[dusky plover]

wait

wrong person

[teal jackal]

tbh shit lmao now im pessimistic about the new grad job hop too

broooooooo

[chilly burrow]

Yooo dats sick

[teal jackal]

industry hire job hop is gonna be hella now too

fuck

[low scroll]

is chewy auto oa?

[chilly burrow]

If you want the source code I can giv it

[teal jackal]

now im just sad

[dusky plover]

twitter engineers are probably jumping ship

[teal jackal]

ill never have my chance

[tawdry skiff]

most want you to say cal

but I say berk

[teal jackal]

too many people jumping down the job hop ship too

[dusky plover]

bro

[chilly burrow]

If it's open source I'll leave a star

[tawdry skiff]

berk is better than cal

[dusky plover]

nobody says cal unless ur not from california

[tawdry skiff]

I go to cal

or

I go to berk

[dusky plover]

yea i got to cal too

[tawdry skiff]

I like berk

[teal jackal]

i might just move to north carolina with LMCOL and spend the rest of my life there
Low-medium cost of living, good WLB at most companies, and ill be able to afford a house and play with cars in my free time

[tawdry skiff]

I dont

[teal jackal]

if prestige chasing doesnt work out for me

[tawdry skiff]

just had conjugal vists

[teal jackal]

I'll be happy with an ordinary life

amazon internship prestige probably will be completely useless by the time I go through the industry hire route

if they see that my current employer is much less prestigious

[wheat seal]

Raleigh has okay tech scene

Google is in Raleigh

Same with zon too

[teal jackal]

i think i might give up on chasing TC and corporate prestige

I might just live a chill life instead

enjoy the finer parts of being alive

move somewhere affordable on a100% middle class salary

cars

lol

and vidya

and food

thats abt it

i dont have a lot of passions

[low scroll]

good choice 🙏

[teal jackal]

tbh one of my passions is just having money for the sake of having money

so thats a problem

[low scroll]

20s is a good time to grow career, but dont be a slave

[teal jackal]

yeah p much this

also mulling moving to italy and opening a chinese takeout restaurant in the area i was born in

we non-wenzhounese are so soft in comparison lol

im from fujian and liaoning chinese lol

yes

honestly i know this one kid who lives off his family business wealth

kid is so out of touch its actually hilarious

dude will just spew the most godawful political takes humanly possible

because "muh taxes" "im being robbed"

if you were really being robbed you wouldnt own a mansion 4head

i do not respect his political views or his thought process as to how he acquired those views

because theyre solely based on emotion and are overall pretty trash takes, also he gets his main political influence from social media

yeah thats true

[timber rock]

low taxes for the poor, high taxes for the rich, and make the rich actually pay them

ez

[teal jackal]

liz truss be like "uno reverse"

tax cuts for the rich only lol

[timber rock]

lol

[teal jackal]

at least the liz truss saga is over for you

[timber rock]

yeah but we're just gonna get another tory

[teal jackal]

the situation wasnt gonna actually become decent, just less bad

liz truss is rock bottom

[timber rock]

Yep there really are no worse options than truss

Sunak will probably win and he's absolutely not worse than truss

[formal fable]

The rich become and stay rich by buying those in power and effectively keeping tax low. So this is and always be unrealistic. Plus, they are smart enough to find loopholes

[timber rock]

And don't get me wrong, he's still terrible

[formal fable]

Ideally, tax should scale with wealth. I agree that having individuals worth 100000 times as much the average individual makes no sense.

But the fact is most rich folks can and will use their wealth to buy whatever they need to preserve it. It's greed, some would call it being clever. But all can agree that it's a permanent reality unless you plan on some communism tier intervention.

Yeah, they let you fight your way up at least. Elsewhere, wealth is restricted by royalty (of any kind)

Either way, I'm happy, mostly. Like being in the matrix

The meaning of life is to do stupid BS to keep yourself happy and then die. Don't think too much about it. Relax and enjoy pizza, sex and video games

[sweet urchin]

*and love and relationships

[smoky lodge]

Cap

The meaning of life is to be acquire massive amounts of wealth with no regard for personal health/sanity or the world

[timber rock]

what is sex. they didnt teach me that in my data structures class

[smoky lodge]

Type of hashmap

[timber rock]

[formal fable]

I do hope people realize that I'm being edgy.

I get about as much sex in a year as the number of offers the average person has on this server

[chilly burrow]

0.08?

[formal fable]

I was gonna say 0, but I guess 0.08 accounts for solo efforts

[chilly burrow]

Cscareers.dev bot has said Congrats!!! 🎉🎉 799 times in #2023_summer_intern_process

And has said it 503 times in #2023_grad_process

Obv there is some lies/jokes

[oak patrol]

Is DRW OA automated

[cerulean basin]

cscareers.dev server currently has 61978 members (8683 currently online).

[chilly burrow]

1302/61978=2.1%

I'm sorry to hear that

[late kestrel]

like i know its not even november yet, but like the top 10 companies by offers this year vs last year is just insane

on the process tracker

this year:

[formal fable]

When do you graduate?

[late kestrel]

last year

[chilly burrow]

Last year is also over

[late kestrel]

theres no way we catch up though

[tardy geode]

same

[chilly burrow]

But yeah it's worse this year for sure

[coarse charm]

[tardy geode]

how do you access this?

[late kestrel]

https://www.cscareers.dev/process-tracking/2023-new-grad

and 6/10 top companies by offers last year arent even hiring new grads

so wild

[normal palm]

rich people stay rich because of how this capitalistic society is constructed, even if you were to take cash from rich people and physically give it to the poor, because of the way this capitalistic society is structured it naturally finds its way to the person bringing the most value to the economy

[compact vortex]

how is hive ai as a company

i just got reached out by a recruiter via linkedin asking for my information to move forward with a process

[dense seal]

anyone who did this week's tiktok OA?

[chilly burrow]

Idk anythin abt em

[compact vortex]

bruh tiktok keeps reaching out asking me to do the OA

[chilly burrow]

But i doubt it's better dan ur other offer

[compact vortex]

it prolly isnt

[teal jackal]

Honestly America sucks in a lot of ways but man the opportunity is unbeatable

Even a mid tech job is not that bad

[chilly burrow]

There's only a few startups better dan ur currenr offer imo

[teal jackal]

In absolute terms

[compact vortex]

yeah

[formal fable]

May 2023?

[teal jackal]

What's sex? Never heard of that ML framework

[teal jackal]

So true bestie

[formal fable]

I agree. I just thought if I point that out, folks would lose their minds with all the "rich hating".

[normal palm]

well i guess it just depends on who you trust more. the inventor who created the value in the economy to produce such magnanimous amounts of wealth or the (possibly) corrupt politicians who want to control more of it

[formal fable]

Then as someone who was basically depressed non-stop from Jan 2022 to Jun 2022, let me tell you this. It's not you, it's the world. It sucks, but it's got good things as well.

Enjoy the little things, keep work compartmentalized, like some sort of workout routine.

Lastly, it's a numbers game. With enough attempts, you'll get the first offer and that's all you really need. I had none a month ago, got 3 now, 2 months away from graduation.

Extrapolate for yourself, work hard, but play harder every day.

[dusky plover]

what offers did you get, if you dont mind me asking

[nocturne oriole]

Who is HachiYuki

[formal fable]

My internship startup (MLE), BB SSE, and Zon SDE

[dusky plover]

yooo congrats mate

[teal jackal]

Is it better than unemployment

[dusky plover]

which one are ya going with

[teal jackal]

Xceed is employed now? Congrats

[dusky plover]

im guessing BB

[chilly burrow]

a nice individual

[teal jackal]

Is hive better than a local company

[chilly burrow]

shout out to lettin me kno abt forward

[formal fable]

For now, yes

[dusky plover]

ur mom

[dusky plover]

yea i got some offers but im gunning for higher tc

since im gonna be in HCOL

[compact vortex]

yeah bruh

[graceful bobcat]

What’s linkedin return tc like?

[compact vortex]

why are only the shitty startups reaching out to me lol

the only responses I got this entire semester are forward and hive

[formal fable]

Yeah, it's no longer a struggle now, more like a fun game. I'm happy, but greedy nevertheless, haha

[teal jackal]

Tbh hive seems like the product is interesting

[dusky plover]

well since none of the big companies ar ehiring they are taking advantage of that to hire those desperate for jobs and work u to the bone

[teal jackal]

At least

[dusky plover]

150k+

[compact vortex]

exactly

[dusky plover]

ty

[formal fable]

Same, fucking NYC and it's $5000 10sq ft apartments

[dusky plover]

yea im not aiming for the moon just something sustainable in the meantime

[dusky plover]

bro

ur gonna room with some1 right

NYC singles will chunk 50% of ur takehome

[formal fable]

Yeah, my fiance

[nocturne oriole]

Show me some respect, I’m a 6’5 latinx

[dusky plover]

oooh ic

[nocturne oriole]

Whoever said i am over 6 foot HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[dusky plover]

[lament summit]

ur planning on spending 3.5k?

[formal fable]

Can't live on that next to central park

[lament summit]

damn

[tawdry skiff]

Kirb can be as tall as they want

Still uglier than me

[nocturne oriole]

The edgelords will still get mad at u for saying this cuz they only wanna pay 15% of their income in rent lol

[formal fable]

That's fairly typical rent for a decent 1-2bhk in NYC.

[tawdry skiff]

THE BOT HAS SPOKEN

[dusky plover]

im only planning on spending 2k/month

yall wilin

[chilly burrow]

u called?

[nocturne oriole]

You mean

Our gf

[lament summit]

get good job

[dusky plover]

1. be hot

[tawdry skiff]

Get iphone

[lament summit]

== gf

[dusky plover]

2. thats it

[tawdry skiff]

Yup

[chilly burrow]

• be sociable
• be nice
• be presentable

[tawdry skiff]

Follow rules one and two

[lament summit]

• have money

[chilly burrow]

not rlly?

[dusky plover]

even if u get a good job she will just leave u for the next jigachad bro thats in quant finance @lament summit

[chilly burrow]

https://www.wikihow.com/Be-Social

ur welcum

[nocturne oriole]

This server will become wildly active when

• someone gets offer
• top shitposts
• somebody has an SO
• u stream ur interview on twitch

[formal fable]

My man gonna hit them clubs, pick up NYU chicks

[lament summit]

i mean ur less attractive from being a mcdonalds worker then any corp job (my gfs opinion)

[nocturne oriole]

Bro wdym oregairu is based

[rain patio]

avatar

?avatar

[nocturne oriole]

One of the only good romance animes in modern times

[dusky plover]

[tawdry skiff]

?avatar

[azure zephyr]

youd be surprised

but thats not the SO u want anyways

[rain patio]

Bring back the bot. Peeporiot

[nocturne oriole]

!choose bot, no bot

1984

See it doesnt work

[dusky plover]

have u guys given urself a deadline to stop interviewing
i think for me its by the end of november

[rain patio]

I need it to my pfp

See

[azure zephyr]

tbh i didnt realize how badly guys wanted girlfriends until i joined this discord lmao

all my guy friends are chads

[chilly burrow]

guys r fiend

[nocturne oriole]

So are u the ugly one in group

Tbh if all ur friends look good u are the ugly one

[dusky plover]

they want gfs but dont understand how complicated relationships are

they just want some anime girl irl

no cap

[rain patio]

U never see 2 good looking best friends.

[slate bobcat]

VERY GOOD

[rain patio]

Always one of them gotta be ugly

[azure zephyr]

idk im a girl and always get hit on at bars so 😭😭😭 idk

[plush schooner]

👀

u have tall friends

[rain patio]

Wear airforce 1s

[dusky plover]

all my friends are 5'0

[azure zephyr]

real talk whats it like being above 5'10 wtf

[plush schooner]

airforce 1s give hieght?

[azure zephyr]

im 5'4

[chilly burrow]

https://www.wikihow.com/Cope-With-Being-in-Love-With-a-Fictional-Character
^ good resource 4 every1

[rain patio]

Inch and a half

[plush schooner]

i can see everything

[teal jackal]

It's OK tbh I never talk to women tbh

[plush schooner]

my gf is 5'1 and she cant see shit

[teal jackal]

I'm 6'1

[dusky plover]

wasnt there another article here telling how FAANG mfs are paying to be taller

[timber rock]

any other 6'2ers in the chat

[rain patio]

U will easily be 6’0

[timber rock]

[plush schooner]

that has to be like, 2 people doing that and the news going crazy for that shit right

?

[chilly burrow]

6'3 😎

[azure zephyr]

my bf is 6'3 i swear our height difference looks goofy as fuck

tree mfer

[timber rock]

😟

[dire yarrow]

[plush schooner]

haha

[rain patio]

6’0 wont help if ur face is fuked tho

[nocturne oriole]

What is it like to walk into a room with like 7 handsome mfs idk the feeling

[dire yarrow]

@nocturne oriole Kirby kirb

[vestal pelican]

The truth is stock options are amazing rn

[chilly burrow]

my problm xactly 😭

[nocturne oriole]

Im always pulling up with tech friends we dont get attention

[plush schooner]

i feel the same i'm 10 feet above my gf

[chilly burrow]

https://www.wikihow.com/Cope-With-Being-in-Love-With-a-Fictional-Character

[dusty basin]

Damn didn’t know everyone at meta was ugly

But makes sense

[chilly burrow]

y u tink they runnin to da metaverse...

[dusky plover]

false
mark zuckerberg works at meta

[dusty basin]

Bad taste

[dusky plover]

no

[chilly burrow]

ya

[nocturne oriole]

Reconnect

[chilly burrow]

ya they said plz wait or smth

[dusky plover]

this fall i didnt get a single replay back from companies i anticipated i'd get replies from asana, goog, atlassian, msft

[chilly burrow]

smth lik dat

[dusky plover]

who is still looking for their first offer

[timber rock]

dont worry guys you could always just go to revature and get worked to the bone while earning 30k

[chilly burrow]

startup

[azure zephyr]

when u feel satisfied

[dusky plover]

so never

[chilly burrow]

nah i herd it toxic af

[dusky plover]

bro?

sick invite?

[chilly burrow]

gr8 talent tho

[timber rock]

me:(

[chilly burrow]

wat i herd

[plush schooner]

sadge

[dusky plover]

i think end of nov is perfect because companies stop by than
and its holiday season

yea rippling has toxic wlb

[plush schooner]

but companies resume hiring jan

[dusky plover]

especially for their indian facing team

[plush schooner]

plenty of companies still hire from jan onwards, jsut less

[tawdry skiff]

How do I fix ugly

[dusky plover]

less than now?

[tawdry skiff]

Asking for friend

[dusky plover]

market is barebones rn

[plush schooner]

yes

[dusky plover]

my take is that recession will ramp up early next yyear

it will go worse

rippling?

oh

why startup u will get worked in the bone

bro believing in the product's vision

[plush schooner]

hey random q do yall feel like you got more interviews as new grad candidate vs intern seeking with the same num of apps?

[dusky plover]

def way less

[plush schooner]

wait what

[dusky plover]

i had a shit resume last year and got more oas

[plush schooner]

yall joking wtf

i got way more interviews this season than last season

[dusky plover]

i have a prestigious company on my resume now vs last year

and get less interviews

[chilly burrow]

A lot of ppl on dis server r also struggling

[plush schooner]

woah thats crazy

my resume hasn't changed actually

[chilly burrow]

the few ppl who r talkin abt offers r the overachievers

[plush schooner]

cuz i didnt get junior intern

[tawdry skiff]

My inbox dry af

[dusky plover]

shit mate

[tawdry skiff]

How I make wet

[dusky plover]

just apply to general motors

[plush schooner]

nope 😦 i just got lucky with expedia's two sum in final

[tawdry skiff]

ANSWER NOW

[timber rock]

Yes, I have like 2-3x more responses this year compared to last yr internships

[dusky plover]

they give anyone with a pulse oa

[dusky plover]

u got expedia?

[plush schooner]

oa's or interviews

yea

[timber rock]

Both

[plush schooner]

i applied when the app came out

[dusky plover]

nice they gave me seattle hybrid

[chilly burrow]

the few ppl who r talkin abt offers r the overachievers or lucky

[plush schooner]

not overwchiever tho lmao

[dusky plover]

ima stay with my RO tho

[plush schooner]

agreed

[timber rock]

My cv is a lot better this yea rtho so that's prob why

[dusky plover]

cv isnt necessary

[plush schooner]

the actual overachievers have legit no difficulty getting offers this eason

[plush schooner]

whats RO

[dusky plover]

return offer

thats cracked wtf

newgrad last year was eating too

[timber rock]

I dunno how it is in america but 99% of companies here wont let you apply without a cv

[dusky plover]

these are all the current pipelines i have

gonna crank this out and call it

im so fucking tired

[plush schooner]

so u msg'd a lot of companies?

[dusky plover]

theyre not offers just current pipelines

[plush schooner]

or are they messaging you from untapped

[dusky plover]

but pin is best ye

[plush schooner]

i see

whaaaaaat

[dusky plover]

what prev exp did u have last year

only? 😮

thats insane

[plush schooner]

did u get a good internship tho

last summer

[dusky plover]

lowkey same, i shouldve grinded for newgrad last year

[plush schooner]

shiiit didn't they lay off

twilio is good imo

wait that's still good no?

at least imo. I never got faang or anything

[dusky plover]

i think twilio return is pretty monkaW @cedar nebula they had layoffs and u never know if ur RO gets rescinded if they did give u one

[plush schooner]

how many apps this year u applied?

ah

thats how normal cs people's rates are

[dusky plover]

scary

just to ride on that return offer alone

[plush schooner]

5% callback from company

those were overachievers

[dusky plover]

i sent 363 apps in

[plush schooner]

average cs person has like 5-10% callback form company

[dusky plover]

for this fall alone

[plush schooner]

u have 5% in a recession imagine what it would be like in peak season

[low scroll]

im at 95 companies currently

[plush schooner]

fact

airbnb would be a dream haha

[timber rock]

For me 45 apps, 11 oa's, 2 interviews so far

unless you count those shitty one way interviews

[lone rapids]

just did tiktok oa

anyone knows when they reach back?

[lament summit]

anyone have the slankey link

[compact obsidian]

one week for me

[lone rapids]

cool did you move on to next round?

[compact obsidian]

ye

[brave dirge]

tiktok been ghosting me

since interviews

[compact obsidian]

how far did u get in process?

[brave dirge]

did two rounds

[compact obsidian]

dang rip

have 2nd coming up

[lone rapids]

damn how many rounds does tiktok have

[compact obsidian]

will be sad if that's the cutoff elimination round

[brave dirge]

also they don’t reject me. i can’t even move on to the next application

tiktok process them one at a time

[compact obsidian]

which team were u interviewing for

[lone rapids]

Did u had a perfect OA?

[compact obsidian]

i did 3/3 for coding qs on OA

[lone rapids]

hopefully I hear back then too

[teal jackal]

Man life is awesome

Being alive is awesome

At Texas roadhouse rn

[open coral]

does anyone have any advice on how to prepare for expedia oa

[ivory stratus]

Which one?

The strengths based assessment is pretty easy

[open coral]

sde 1 oa

[ivory stratus]

Can’t really prepare

Hackerrank is just leetcode

[open coral]

ahh okk

[open coral]

like medium? or hard too?

[ivory stratus]

Uhhhh

Medium

Two medium 5 multiple choice

In 60 minutes which sucks

But doable

[open coral]

2 med could be time consuming 😦

[ivory stratus]

Yeeeeee

My suggestion, do the 5 mc quick then do lc

[floral plank]

It is good

[open coral]

okk are the bot questions in this server helpful?

[dense seal]

what topics did u have? pls dont say dp

[floral plank]

Not everyone starts at top companies

[ivory stratus]

No, more relevant for final

[ivory stratus]

Lmaooooo it’s dp

[open coral]

ahh ok thanks for letting me know 🙂

[ivory stratus]

Of course! Good luck

[open coral]

thank you!!

[chilly burrow]

I kno

I posted it in #grad_postings_old

[forest aspen]

do any of you guys have experiecne getting referrals for jobs

[uncut umbra]

yes

[forest aspen]

like do you feel it helps because i just got a few referrals for a few companies and a double referral for another

[uncut umbra]

idk about double referral

but refs def help pass a resume screen in most cases

[forest aspen]

how do you usually get yours? connections? or do you try to connect with people via linked in or something

[uncut umbra]

linkedin

or existing connection

[forest aspen]

how do you approach for linkedin? do you usually message if they went to same school or something?

[uncut umbra]

ye

[hexed moth]

joining the party

[lament summit]

what have i done

[uncut umbra]

the same day you changed your name, you got a job

at this point I will do whatever voodoo bs I need to get a job

[small mountain]

deadass

[bold pier]

Just read what HachiYuki means, I want to say... dafaq

[slate bobcat]

Ohhhh i know what hachiyuki is

it all makes sense now

[crude saffron]

It’s just a coincidence

(Yui best girl btw)

[bold pier]

damn I miss watching animes

[foggy perch]

Nah

Teacher 100%

[lament summit]

So why rnt u changing ur name then

[small mountain]

bc i still need them

[uncut umbra]

lmao the nazuna pfp

[thick shell]

Same day you receive email

So like the timer starts as soon as you get the email

[crude saffron]

Yes good show

Read the manga

[livid citrus]

anyone hear back after bytedance lark oa ?

i took it and it was easy, so im assuming it was different than the tiktok oa

but no one really mentioned lark separately so was jw

[teal jackal]

man texas roadhouse is epic

i enjoyed my dinner with family

i no longer care about TC chasing in the immediate moment

my time will come with enough applications, grinding, and trial and error

[hybrid bluff]

I love that

I was panicking the other day over my tc offer: 95k

[uncut umbra]

maybe when it finishes airing

[teal jackal]

id try for something better for sure

[uncut umbra]

that show is currently hitting deep parts of my soul

[teal jackal]

honestly as a new grad id focus on working somewhere with a good tech stack and good responsibility

if you cant find somewhere with high prestige or high tc

[green bronze]

Is money more important then morals?

[hybrid bluff]

If you won’t work at an immoral job, someone else would

So might as well be you who gets that bag

[teal jackal]

i feel like working on high-impact projects within a good tech stack is probably going to be the key to me job hopping someday

anyways

my parents honestly said they cant even blame me for downgrading from amazon in terms of pay and prestige

[green bronze]

This is insane

So you would take palantir?

[teal jackal]

hell yeah i would

IF I HAD AN OFFER

[green bronze]

I don’t think I can mane

[teal jackal]

but now that the door to palantir is closed for me as a new grad

back to regular programming

[hybrid bluff]

Where you at now?

[teal jackal]

palantir has shit morals and is going to bring a tech dystopia to us

literally totalitarianism through tech

[hybrid bluff]

Dude literally everything is immoral

[teal jackal]

yeah i know

[hybrid bluff]

If you start to think about it you’ll hate everything

[teal jackal]

lolol

[hybrid bluff]

Just best not to think about it

Your iPhone? The cobalt was mined by children

Your nikes were made in sweat shops

[green bronze]

Why

[teal jackal]

wow palantir sucks? i thought it was pretty nice there

good to know that im not coping haha

[green bronze]

Can u explain

[teal jackal]

thank u for telling me palantir sucks

thanks dude

i appreciate the cope a lot

why is palantir leaving?

[green bronze]

Why

Stock suffering?

[teal jackal]

why are seniors and high value engineers leaving?

[green bronze]

Peter?

[teal jackal]

alex karp?

tbh i always felt like karp and thiel give off a bit of narcissistic vibe, like "im so esoteric with my views and that justifies my company having dogshit ethics"

[loud crown]

Tbh the ethical problems are overblown

Not as bad as people say

[teal jackal]

yeah im coping haha

i know palantir makes legitimate products

[green bronze]

Bro they sell to ICE

[loud crown]

Eh that’s misleading

[green bronze]

And the cia

[teal jackal]

palantir does make legitimate products for civilian uses

[loud crown]

ICE does a lot

They do child trafficking cases

[teal jackal]

i think palantir's predictive policing thing is terrifying

[loud crown]

And that’s the division Palantir works with

[green bronze]

Palantir is definition of big data can become evil

But regardless

It seems like not a good place to start my career

[teal jackal]

nah its a great place to start your career bro

[green bronze]

Thanks @loud crown

[teal jackal]

but yeah

im coping

fuck palantir

shit company

[green bronze]

Palantir needs to ask that though

[uneven grove]

nah bruh I'm down bad for an offer. I'll do anything right now 💀

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree tbh, it definitely is kinda cult-y and narcissistic of the company

reality is that SWEs work on products for the money

[lilac locust]

Do you have an offer

[uneven grove]

nope

[lilac locust]

Rip why

[teal jackal]

like i get that palantir has a bright future and pays a lot but i dont think their product is so interesting its worth writing an essay about

[green bronze]

Yes, they need certain people to work with them

[uneven grove]

company I interned at this past summer is still figuring out headcount

[teal jackal]

nope.avi

no offer

[uneven grove]

so as of now I have no return offer

[lilac locust]

Which one

[uneven grove]

snap

heh

[lilac locust]

snap -28% stock

[uneven grove]

$8 dollar company

pizza money

[green bronze]

A company that has employees that don’t follow suit usually suffer, you need to have a level of belief in their dream to work in palantir

[lilac locust]

Lol

[teal jackal]

tbh i feel like twitter and snap have an absolte glut of software engineers, i do not understand why they need that many devs and what for

[green bronze]

It’s not perfect but it helps and that’s the point

[uneven grove]

they definitely need me no cap

I will bring their stock back up

[teal jackal]

[green bronze]

You can lie ofc but then again that’s what they would desire righ

People who are willing to do whatever it takes to get the bag

[teal jackal]

anyways i had texas roadhouse with my parents today, man that was some awesome stuff

i now no longer need to find a high prestige job as a new ggrad to be happy

i will be happy as long as the tech stack is good tbh

im gonna assume that the job will pay at least 100k in cash

[green bronze]

100k base salary?

That’s still a lot ngl

[teal jackal]

yeah

[uneven grove]

never settle

[green bronze]

Definitely doable in HOC though

[teal jackal]

100k base and tbh itll hold me thru for new grad

[uneven grove]

-OnePlus

[teal jackal]

its okay to settle in the heat of the moment, but its not my long term plan to settle

[uneven grove]

nah I'm just joking haha

toxic masculinity or whatever

[karmic harness]

its perfectly fine in this market to settle IMO

[teal jackal]

yeah reject lol

yeah

[uneven grove]

supposed to have an onsite with palantir

prayge

[teal jackal]

thanks man

its tough but

im trying to think long term

it really isnt a race as long as you have good things to live for in the present thatll hold you through while waiting for greatness

seeing family always really brightens my mood now that im in college

being on campus i get very lonely tbh

i have friends but i do not consider myself super close with any of them

[uneven grove]

I'll send that to palantir 5 years after they reject me (if that happens)

[teal jackal]

what?

is this innuendo for something

[green bronze]

What stage @teal jackal

[teal jackal]

post-recruiter call screwed me over

anyways

i realize that its hard for me to make friends because im very picky

also yeah, the vibe check is two-way, some people do not like that mcuh who i am

that is okay

i am not interested in being their friend anyways

[green bronze]

Wym you post recruiter call

You mean you failed recruiter stage?

[teal jackal]

yeah and i have no idea hwy

oh well

[jolly raptor]

any zon new grad, tried changing the location assigned? Do they change locations for new grad offers?

[teal jackal]

i have to admit, having family, good texas roadhouse, and good hobbies will hold me through and keep me motivated to enjoy life while I grind for a better future
i dont really have friends anymore tbh, but i still have good things that keep me fueled

p much

i unfortunately am VERY much introvered

ive realized that i dont even get happiness from hanging out with friends anymore

but i love my family 300%

on jah

by all means i respect and support my friends, but i cant say hanging out with them makes me very happier in life tbh

dudebro i have actual autism, tbh the whole idea that tech is autism heaven is cap tbh

so many soft skills needed to get through the recruiting process

i do NOT know how to talk

i feel like maybe in the actual workplace, its not so bad

and tbh, even as much as the recruiting process sucks in tech still, every other field has it worse with the bar being some arbitrary behavioral

its the best out there for someone like me, even if its far from ideal for me

one thing I kinda wished that interviewers would do during behaviorals is straight up say "this is what we want to get from your response to our question"

i can not guess

[green bronze]

Softskills >>

Can always teach someone to code but a bad team member is sufferage

[teal jackal]

defense moment

defense moment

i know a guy who interviewed for the CIA and he said the process made him lose all respect for the institution

he straight up said to me like "yeah im sure you guys are so awesome wasting everyones time with dumb mind games"

its pretty much a hazing ritual

[green bronze]

Accommodation is nice and all but at one point you have to realize theres a level that people expect and desire, if you're soft skills suck the solution is to improve them to a point where people can meet you half way.

The simple reality is likeable people make it farther in life, be likeable and people will help you.

[teal jackal]

i feel like its easier to tell a code monkey with bad soft skills to fuck off, than someone charismatic but lacking in the problem solving dpeartment to fuck off

[green bronze]

The bigger companies, the one your vying for, don't need superstars, they want coachable people who are willing to learn

[teal jackal]

harder to reject someone who was very pleasant and polite to you

[green bronze]

The first step is to practice

[teal jackal]

and someone you thoroughly thought was nice to talk to

its harder yknow

[green bronze]

Its not even about that the guilt or whatever feeling of hesitation that it comes with, the smoother your conversation is with someone they stronger the likelyhood they want you around

[teal jackal]

code monkey with shit soft skills: "a dime a dozen im sure we'll find another one"

yeah you summed it up better than i did

yeahe he was invited to DC

on the bright side, you probably have a better job now than building missiles to be launched at civilian targets

[green bronze]

Play the game

Why not play the game?

[teal jackal]

waste their time instead

[green bronze]

Yes

That exactly how you should've answered

[teal jackal]

tbh one reason why im really grateful to be surrounded by millennials and gen z, is because these generations of people prefer not to waste each others' time

[green bronze]

If that's the first thought that comes to your mind say it

Smooth it out

[teal jackal]

boomers think that everything has some dumb decorum to it, even if there's no meaningful justification for it

[green bronze]

"I'm sure I'll have some questions for you but first why not tell me more about yourself"

You're vying for meritocracy but you said you were there for a job

So play the game

[teal jackal]

fs, the hiring process there is really weird and designed in a weird way

[green bronze]

And then decide after if you want the job

At worst yoou get experience

At best you get the offer and gives u more wiggle room

[teal jackal]

i dont doubt that boomer companies are the kinda place where referrals basically guarantee you the job

i feel like with our target tech companies, new grad referrals are worthless now

[green bronze]

Choosing is a privilege for those who have options or those who have no care in the world

Not gonna stay on this topic but in the future, press people back

You're there for an interview too

[teal jackal]

honestly its just nice to look back and see that things did work out for the better in the end

[green bronze]

Be smooth, be classy but be aggressive in how you answer questions, show enthusiasm but also show restraint

[teal jackal]

i guess one of the questions would be like

is there anything you want me to know

is there anything you want to know about me

if i didnt know any better id throw myself at the interviewer to ask me actual questions

good night

gl with the OA dude

[uncut umbra]

just did tiktok

accidentally switched tabs and got the hackerrank warning lol

but still solved 1.5 questions (couldn't get the hashmap working for the second one despite it being fairly obvious and number 3 was reading from stdin and if you think I'm doing that shit at 1 am you're dead wrong)

[austere grove]

Hm

Could you guys justify doing Bloomberg or scale AI over Roblox

I’m trying to think of reasons to stay in nyc

Scale AI has shitty wlb

And it’s not public yet

Also the stock is probably overvalued

[teal jackal]

Is the culture at scale ai kinda sus

I feel like questionable culture is the norm at a lot of startups

I heard hive is hiring masses of new grads, I've heard mixed leaning negative things about the wlb there

[somber oyster]

ugh...hiring freeze guys....

[nova reef]

I talked to a friend who interned there and he said the management ppl are pretty immature

[half void]

tiktok first interview was nontrivial

does anyone know how the tiktok phone screen round is usually?

[whole berry]

the stdin was wild

[fallen fox]

anyone know what sofi's OA is like?

[teal jackal]

When everyone is the same age lol

I feel like it's probably not necessarily malicious management, just incompetent

[uncut umbra]

I just wrote out how to do the question, I wasn't about to actually do it lmfao

[uncut umbra]

hive requires a 24-hour take home assessment that will suck up at least 4 to 5 hours of your time (or maybe I'm just dumb but even using a tutorial to get the boilerplate stuff out of the way it would be pretty annoying)

I was high on them before taking that thing cause I thought it would be easy but it's not

[rain patio]

Bb no free food. Sucks

Ass

[uncut umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

^ me crying about no free food at bb if I get an offer

[rain patio]

Free food makes a huge difference

[runic wind]

Yeah it's like 15k extra

[rain patio]

Yes especially in nyc

[uncut umbra]

I mean, I do plan to make a decent bit of my food at-home, so I'm not as irked

zon didn't have free food either and I was a far worse cook over the summer than I am now

[sonic coral]

Just gotta live in a neighborhood with cheapish groceries nearby

[uncut umbra]

yep

[teal jackal]

Same

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also when I had covid over the summer, I became a master of buying food that would last me multiple meals. one subway footlong for 10 ish bucks is 2 meals straight up, and I could get like 30 bucks worth of grubhub that lasts a couple days

[teal jackal]

My mom bought me an AWESOME rice cooker, it's a portable rice cooker for once, AND it can cook rice and steam vegetables at once

Simultaneously

This machine is gonna save me so much time tbh

Im very grateful for it

[teal jackal]

After which on-site was this lol

[uncut umbra]

this was after the recruiter call lmfao

I'm straight up not doing it

[teal jackal]

You had that?

I was told Str8 to onsite

But hella onsites

Anyways, back to the rice cooker. I really like the rice cooker because it's gonna be good for making steamed vegetables and rice at the same time

All I'll have to do is sautee some proteins

[sonic coral]

If a footlong is enough for two meals for you, you gotta find a place with some good bodegas nearby lol

[teal jackal]

My kitchen gonna be hella clean with this machine tbh

[teal jackal]

100%

Tbh a footlong will get me through the day with some snacks

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it used to not be but covid really fucked with me lol

[sonic coral]

Oof

[teal jackal]

My appetite got a lot smaller after I stopped growing

[sonic coral]

Do you exercise at all?

That def affects diet

[teal jackal]

When I was 19 or so my metabolism just crashed and burned

[uncut umbra]

not as much as I should during periods of high stress

[teal jackal]

Lolnope

Not me

Hahahahaaa

[uncut umbra]

yeah like I will play volleyball and tennis when I get the time

and if I don't have the time

walking is the most I will do on an average day

[austere grove]

but the concrete jungle

[austere grove]

exercise pls

it's good fro you

[teal jackal]

I got bored of rock climbing after the second time going

[uncut umbra]

I agree but also I'm a big guy so I used to eat footlongs consistently

[teal jackal]

Problem with rock climbing for me is that the learning curve is insane to make rock climbing regularly worth it

I want physical activity that's not boring but also easy

[uncut umbra]

I agree, but I've been watching rock climbing for long enough that the bottleneck is currently my lack of physical fitness lmfao

[teal jackal]

Weightlifting is hella boring

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also my fear of heights

[teal jackal]

Yeah it's super dependent on strength relative to weight

Heavy people are at such a disadvantage

I'm 180lbs

[uncut umbra]

if I got back to the gym and spent half an hour on an elliptical the way I used to, I could drop 20 pounds and be a much better rock climber

bruh I got you beat by a fair bit lol

[uncut umbra]

I've heard the same. I'm a strong guy, I just also am a big guy lol

[teal jackal]

Anyways rock climbing gets insane, it's like at the cracked tier skill level you have to hang on with one hand and then make a 5ft jump and suddenly just be able to grapple a tiny stubble of a rock

[rain patio]

Peoblem with rock climbing for me is i need to find people

[teal jackal]

I will never be able to do that, also partially because idc enough about the sport for jt

I'll go rock climbing once a month just to check out the new climbs

But I'll never be a regular at it

[sonic coral]

Are you me where you watch climbing videos but never rock climbed a day in your life

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if I dropped the 20 lbs I could probably do most of the stuff I want to do on the rock climbing course

but then it's a problem of conquering my fears

[teal jackal]

Climbing needs good upper body strength, ain't me chief

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lots of my friends are rock climbers so I know what the moves are, and I'm very good with spatial awareness

I used to think I have shit upper body strength, which isn't true

I just have shit upper body strength compared to my mass

[teal jackal]

I'm good with spatial awareness after I've seen a place enough times, terrible at spatial awareness in the first run

[teal jackal]

Yeah same

What can u bench

I'm hella weak because I never work out

[uncut umbra]

never tried, wrist has been fucked for a few years

[teal jackal]

I can only lift like 80lbs

Bemch

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I played tennis and swam for years so my upper body is relatively strong, but since I have a terrible wrist I just straight up can't do a lot of moves like pushups and bench

need to go to the doctor for that shit when I get the bag lol

[teal jackal]

Same I have crappy thin wrists, it sucks

The concept of a Wristcel unironically exists btw

[sonic coral]

I bench like 125 for a bodyweight of 140, you think I can get into climbing? Or get my bench up first

[teal jackal]

You can probably do both at once

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nani

[teal jackal]

Pull up is really hard

Not your fault