2023_grads

[night magnet]

ok ya this is just inaccurate

[compact obsidian]

yeah HRT, citadel, jane street not on there

[night magnet]

bro my old roomate got 240 from zon (NYC)

[dusky plover]

pin should be on there bruh

[night magnet]

which is like roblox/db tier

[night magnet]

ya

[compact obsidian]

dang nice 240

nyc tho

so it's really more like 220 in bay

which is still

very nice

[nova reef]

pin's fully remote so that's another big thumbup

[compact obsidian]

(i am pulling numbers out of my ass i dont actually know how much less bay is compared to nyc)

[night magnet]

wow did not know that

[night magnet]

for whatever reason companies pay higher in bay than NYC I've noticed

[floral plank]

Lmao my roomate was also at Zon

[night magnet]

everyone and their mother at zon lol

[warm sky]

Was ur roommate a new grad direct hire?

[floral plank]

Except for me

[night magnet]

ya

[warm sky]

wtf I thought you couldn't nego zon new grad

or maybe that's just returning?

[night magnet]

I know he had competing offers

[lilac locust]

[night magnet]

lemme check w him hold up

[nova reef]

I think return zon new grad gets 10k more

[night magnet]

ok ya so first he got this email

"we do not nego student programs"

[compact obsidian]

yeah everyone gets that tho

[night magnet]

then he was like aight im outta here

and then talked to his future manager

and then he nego'd up to there

so it seems like it was out of band and required approval

[nova reef]

he got a really good manager I guess

who actually tried it for him

[night magnet]

but like he literally didn't even recruit lmao

he just made up his "competing offers"

fr fr

[warm sky]

bruh lmao

What companies did he say he had offers from?

[compact obsidian]

spreading misinformation gotta be the way to go ngl

[night magnet]

lemme check

[compact obsidian]

i know a guy who made up a google offer and neg'd his msft offer up to 230

just straight up lied

[night magnet]

ok

he said nuro

[night magnet]

honestly

[nova reef]

msft in seattle?

[compact obsidian]

dunno tbh

[warm sky]

Is nuro even hiring new grads rn?

[nova reef]

230 in seattle would be fking bing chilling

[night magnet]

honestly have no idea

what do they even do

ev right

[warm sky]

autonomous vehicles i think

[night magnet]

bro i swear theres like PILES of these EV companies

and they all pay insane

who tf is funding these pos

[compact obsidian]

got a friend with 240 in seattle for snowflake

cracked

i wish that were me

[nova reef]

yea snowflake has some insane hiring bars tho

[runic wind]

Whut
Did snowflake even give return offers this year

[night magnet]

what do they ask

[wheat seal]

Snowflake shouldn’t be impacted that much tbh

[compact obsidian]

dunno

[wheat seal]

They are b2b

[compact obsidian]

friend wasn't return intern

[runic wind]

I have friends who didn't get a return offer

[night magnet]

bro my next goal is linkedin infra for SWE2 I heard they have the most insane interviews

[runic wind]

They aren't even hiring new grads this season

[compact obsidian]

yeah

friend applied to an experienced position and recruiter sent to university hiring

i tried the same strat and nothing

skill issue ngl

[wheat seal]

I’m surprised did they overhire?

[runic wind]

Not sure
But things def aren't looking good

[nova reef]

my friend got asked a leetcode hard last year when he applied for an intern role there

[wheat seal]

There quarterly financials looks great https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/snow/financials/income/quarter

I’m really surprised they aren’t hiring

With financials this good

[runic wind]

Eh
Hiring is based on quarter forecasts

[night magnet]

I mean db is hiring

and snowflake is basically = db

interesting

[wheat seal]

I mean snowflake has great growth

[runic wind]

New grad headcount is dictated by next year's predicted quarter results

[wheat seal]

Oh I see

But even still like it seems odd like their growth is really great lol

I mean everyone is being hit hard rn

[crude saffron]

Change pfps

[compact obsidian]

surely the real one is among the ones named HachiYuki

ඞ

[livid citrus]

do you need to know any finance terms for bloomberg phone?

[night magnet]

Change pps*

[crude saffron]

Sure

[night magnet]

For the longest time in high school I referred to profile pic as pp

And I didn’t even realize the other meaning

And I was so confused when I first saw pfp

[formal fable]

Odd question: Has anyone successfully converted their Amazon NG offer to a higher level role?

[devout plume]

childish way of referring to male genitalia

[vital meteor]

I doubt this is possible

Best case you fast track sde2 promo in a year

[formal fable]

What if I had a competing offer of that level already?

[vital meteor]

Even then, masters students also only get L4 so

You can try but I doubt it's possible

[formal fable]

I got interviews with them and Google for L5 bro, and I am an MS student, so I know they were seriously considering me for those levels. It doesn't seem like a huge leap to convert a position knowing that I already bagged a senior role elsewhere

[nocturne oriole]

@devout plume

[vital meteor]

You can ask in zon discord but like I said I've never heard of that happening

[karmic harness]

[devout plume]

i miss him 😢

[nocturne oriole]

[lilac locust]

Kirb

[compact obsidian]

dang what the

why would u go for zon if u got google L5

[karmic harness]

kirb why does it feel like the vibe of this discord is different from spring 2022

[nocturne oriole]

Recession brought out the best and worst in people

[formal fable]

They didn't reach a successful end. Zon was some months ago and got rejected, but google straight up ended the process after passing me through screening citing that they needed my start date confirmed with EAD before a manager takes interest for VO and then basically asked me to get in touch in November.

[nocturne oriole]

Last year’s intern class (2022 summer interns) were the absolute worst group i have seen since server started

They were absolute fiends and gremlins

[compact obsidian]

i am a gremlin

i am a goblin

my silliness levels are unprecedented

[karmic harness]

sheesh got me shaking in my boots.

[lilac locust]

Wdym

[nocturne oriole]

They were shitposters

[lilac locust]

Oh yeah I remember that

Now no one has a job

[karmic harness]

tbh last season it seemed like everyone was bagging bangers

this season not so much

[lilac locust]

I said nothing

[karmic harness]

im reporting you to the police

[lilac locust]

no

[karmic harness]

then u dont have to worry about getting a job

bros title

[lilac locust]

No

[karmic harness]

scary

[lilac locust]

[karmic harness]

i wouldnt want to be around him

once the semester is over

[lilac locust]

[last summit]

sometimes that's what you want

+easier to shitpost when everyone's employed

[karmic harness]

u got a point crush

[signal ore]

Has anyone done a panel interview with Apple?

[oak rose]

anyone know the total comp at amazon for new grads, heard it's increased right?

[warm sky]

which city?

[crystal delta]

for return interns, -10k first year signing bonus for non return interns

[visual zephyr]

I got email today for Amazon OA2 - does this mean i passed OA1 which I did last night? I didnt even pas all the test cases on q2

[hasty birch]

Yes

[visual zephyr]

Thank you - so the only reason why i wouldnt pass to onsite or final is cuz of OA2 result?

[green bronze]

Palantir karat for me was just graph problems, solved all 3 parts using same adj graph

[hasty birch]

Pretty much. That or they pause hiring again

[serene nymph]

people who applied to citadel, did you spoof your location? i.e. nyc?

[sonic coral]

Were?

[uncut umbra]

ya boy was down tremendous last night

dreamed I fucked up the zoom codesignal and that everything else in my life went bad as a direct result lmao

[teal jackal]

what zoom codesignal?

[uncut umbra]

wdym

[teal jackal]

palantir reject
nothing was meant to be for me

[rain patio]

Name checks out

Jk

[teal jackal]

honestly when is my downward spiral gonna start

as a kid i was always like "i couldnt ever understand why someone who seemingly has so much going for them just gives up in life and let themself rot into an alcoholic"

as an adult, i get it now

[knotty talon]

😭

[stark topaz]

any chance to get Palantir HM round if i bombed learning of onsite but did decent on decomposition?

[knotty talon]

me when i get an email but it turns out to be ripplematch

[uncut umbra]

bruh

me rn

[teal jackal]

i dont think ive ever felt worse self esteem in my life than i do now

this is the worst ive ever felt

"Mistakes make you stronger"
Me throughout the interview process:

https://i0.wp.com/sportytell.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Strongest-Man-In-The-World-Ever.jpg?fit=1312%2C675&ssl=1

[lilac locust]

Chat dead

[late kestrel]

good. grind job

[violet badger]

Just had the recruiter call with Palantir

How long until I hear back?

[last summit]

to schedule decomp?

[violet badger]

Yeah

[last summit]

mine was like a week

[uncut umbra]

is this the initial call or later stages

[violet badger]

Also, any chance I messed up that bad too?

[last summit]

uh not sure, ig read the vibe from your recruiter lol

[teal jackal]

i feel like the difference between me and those who are happy in life
is that those who are happy in life trust the process, they think "idrc how long it takes, eventually something will work out"
me be like "im tired of waiting, failing, and being turned down, i just hate that feeling too much so i have to worry about myself"

[last summit]

mine sent me info about the onsite via email same day, it just took a week for them to schedule it

[teal jackal]

if u get rejected itll be in like 2 days

me lol

[teal jackal]

vibes are meaningless theyll all pretend that your answers were good

in the heat of the moment

[last summit]

uh well, no

[violet badger]

I said I am interviewing with other companies at the end when asked if I am but still in the early stage

[last summit]

mine just started talking about the rest of the rounds in the call itself lol

they arent gonna bother w that if you're not moving on

[violet badger]

Should I have?

[grim steeple]

initial

[violet badger]

Oh then I am not moving forward

[last summit]

doubt the inverse is true

[violet badger]

I had to ask what are the next steps

[last summit]

you can prolly/def still move on if they didnt

[teal jackal]

wait what? mine just said "we'll reach out once we get htis info to the teams

[last summit]

dont read too much into it lol just wait a day or two ur good

[teal jackal]

and shit

honestly i feel like shit

[violet badger]

And they were like if you do decide to move forward then this will be the next steps

[teal jackal]

im probably gonna skip class today

[violet badger]

Omg how did I mess up a recruiter call

[last summit]

u didnt bruh wtf

just wait

take it at face value

[violet badger]

Like a lot of emphasis on if you doooo

[teal jackal]

i messed mine up lol

no im gonna go against the grain and say that there is a real chance you get rejected

vibes are completely unpredictable

dont treat it like its a given

its completely out of your control now

[violet badger]

How did you mess up yours?

[teal jackal]

idk

Nobody will ever tell me lol

I just gave my answers

i did not get bad vibes from my interview

i have no idea what went wrong

oh well man

whatever happens happens

[digital tinsel]

Has anyone here heard from Google or is interviewing with Google?

[teal jackal]

just dont act like " i know for a fact im getting an onsite"

[uncut umbra]

cowboy bebop reference?

[teal jackal]

no

whats cowboy bebop anyways?

[uncut umbra]

for apm, yes. for swe, I think you had to be at offer stage last year for them to reach out

[digital tinsel]

Offer stage as an intern?

[uncut umbra]

yeah

then you get reached out

iirc

[teal jackal]

i had a random thought, its like "what if some mysterious supernatural soul that is in every single way perfect and better than you took over your body"

and this mysterious supernatural soul manages to make your life actually decent instead of dogshit and depressing

it's like you get to see and feel everything this mysterious supernatural soul sees and feels, but you have no control over yourself. you only get to experience what is supposed to be your life like its a movie.

pro: you get to experience how it feels to actually live a good life
con: youre basically a zombie now, since you have no control over it

its like trading your free will in exchange for being able to experience the life you've always dreamed of

[deep wasp]

So I had my first interview the other day with F5. It was a zoom call, he asked me to introduce myself and asked some behavioral questions and then we did a live coding challenge.

What can expect from the next stages if I move ?

*new to this lol

[sonic coral]

But if that supernatural being is accomplishing all this through your body that means you’re capable of doing so as well

[thorn walrus]

isn’t this the plot to yugioh

[teal jackal]

the supernatural soul is also smarter than you

and has a better personality than you

i guess with my plot is that you permanently lose all control over yourself

youll never be able to actually make a decision again

[compact obsidian]

one of my fav questions to ask at end of interview as wrap up is "what are next stages and when can i expect to hear back"

Recruiter will also usually send a timeline of the process (usually either w/ the first round interview or after the first round)

if they dont you can also just ask the recruiter

sometimes it's also just lsited on their careers page

[sonic coral]

My point is all that potential is within you

[compact obsidian]

Recruiting Timeline and Process
Recruitment for summer 2023 internships and full-time positions for current students* graduating between fall 2022 and summer 2023 will begin in August 2022. Interns and soon-to-be graduates follow a similar recruitment process. The following information guides both:

After applications are opened in August 2022, they are reviewed on a rolling basis every two weeks. We recommend submitting your application sooner rather than later.
If your application is selected to move forward, we have a two-step interview process. First, you'll have an initial interview; these usually take 30 minutes (for software engineering positions, this will be a technical screen). If you advance past this initial interview, you will complete a final round of interviews. This typically consists of 3 additional interviews that take course over a half day. Weekend interviews are not available.
We expect first round interviews to begin in September with final round interviews happening between October and December. Recruitment will continue in January and beyond until all positions are filled.
Intern applicants must be enrolled in an accredited college or university pursuing a Bachelors, Masters, or Ph.D. in the United States. You must have at least one semester or quarter left to complete after finishing the internship.
You can meet our team in-person at the following national conferences: the American Indian Science and Engineering Society (AISES), the Society of Women Engineers (SWE), the Society of Hispanic Professionals and Engineers (SHPE), and the National Society of Black Engineers (NSBE).

• We will also consider recent graduates who graduated no earlier than the spring of 2021.

https://www.f5.com/company/careers/university-program

[sonic coral]

Don’t wish your life was better, make it better, focus on things you can control and improve those things

[teal jackal]

the idea is taht it takes someone else to unlock your full potential

and thats the regret within the plot

like the protagonist never knew how to even start with achieving a better life

until this mysterious soul took over and brought its knowledge to the protagonists body

[sonic coral]

Is this a would you rather just for shits n giggles or is this something you genuinely think about often

[teal jackal]

shits and giggles

i just had this thought since ive been at a low in life for a while

ive been consistently unhappy with life for the past 3 months

it was just a thought experiment in the end

"would you rather see your physical self actually be happy in life for once, but none of it is within your control"

[deep wasp]

Ty - will do this next time

[dreamy cliff]

this is kinda like the show Living with Yourself

except the better version is a clone

[uncut umbra]

come on now, brennan delsing must have emailed you once this morning

[dreamy cliff]

Brennan how could you

[teal jackal]

ok one massive L from palantir

but i have an onsite with another place

not saying where though

its more like

i dont like talking too much about my processes

or else i feell ike im gonna jinxi t

[hasty birch]

Just change your name to HachiYuki and you'll be fine

[uncut umbra]

the most evil fucking emoji

[lament summit]

frfr

what have i started

LMAOO

[uncut umbra]

yeah sorry it looks like the joker fucked willem dafoe's green goblin and is infected by the grinch

[late kestrel]

[cobalt siren]

Just had bloomberg em, email said 1hr but it was only 45 mins. Very chill, no sys design

[solemn crag]

Waiting for Amazon next day delivery after portal change yesterday night

No it was after that

Yesterday 9pm ish

Ppl got moved to all kinds of locations

Sounds much more realistic than the one on Tuesday where everyone's location was East Palo Alto and team DB

Also those got changed back yesterday afternoon most of their portals changed one more time yesterday night to new locations lol

[teal jackal]

I'm playing automation rn

And why is my v8 engine more fuel efficient than my 4 cylinder

This is so scuffed

[uncut umbra]

evil incarnate

[teal jackal]

Omg they named this ignition timing configuration after me 😻

[lament summit]

Lmaooo

[dim dock]

any intern has not heard back from meta？

[modest night]

yeo

has anyine here tried to negotiate with JPMC?

like is there NG offers negotiable?

[signal ore]

How far does JPMC allow you to push back their offer deadline?

I already asked them to push it back a week, but the company I am interviewing with told me that I should push it back further

[uneven fulcrum]

Did anyone give the JPMC OA? What to expect?

[uncut umbra]

one push back was the max they allowed me, but I ended up reneging last year

[timber rock]

2 easy/mediums in mine

[uneven fulcrum]

Any behavioural questions?

[timber rock]

nope

[uneven fulcrum]

Cools

[signal ore]

Do they blacklist you if you accept and renege?

[cobalt siren]

How long after em round for decision from Bloomberg?

[brave dirge]

my email says within 7 days

[wet coral]

is it bad if i put down my mentor from the company im going to renege if I get a better offer as my reference for another company?

[west egret]

My email said it would be 7 days as well

[cobalt siren]

Gotcha yeah just wondering if most people get it earlier or not

Also does bb call for offer?

[autumn ridge]

What companies ask for references?

[wet coral]

not many

[compact obsidian]

duolingo is the only one i know that does

[cobalt siren]

Veeva Systems asked for mine and called them

[brave dirge]

Galatea associates does but the company pays badly

does grade matter at all at this point? im doing really bad at school cus of all the interviews and stuff😭

[late kestrel]

they schedule a call over email and call yes

[uneven fulcrum]

Did anyone do expedited VO (just 1hr) for Bloomberg? How long did it take to hear back?

[west egret]

I mean are you going to be sending out applications after this semester?

[autumn ridge]

same day to schedule second VO

[brave dirge]

hopefully not. trying my best to land a job and graduate

[autumn ridge]

I don't think so as long as you still graduate

[uneven fulcrum]

I did't hear back the same day, still yet to hear back. Guess I am rejected

[autumn ridge]

I wouldn't assume. Did the interview go well? Also I would reach out to recruiter if you are in expidited process

[uneven fulcrum]

I solved both problems and follow ups, maybe resume grilling didn't go that well. Planning to reach out tomorrow, since I gave the interview last Friday.

[slender apex]

has anyone here gone through the pinterest final, if so can i dm plz tyty

[lament summit]

hi

[slender apex]

yoo tyty can i dm plz

[lament summit]

sure

[nocturne oriole]

No im serious

bb is faang tier for all purposes

maybe better

At that point you’re just choosing what u prefer

No real opportunity cost

Bloomberg is very good and stable too rn

Msft just laid off 6% of its workforce lol

I would take bb

[last summit]

whichever you're more interested in

[nocturne oriole]

It wont be the same TC tho

[last summit]

they're comparable

[nocturne oriole]

Redmond vs nyc

[formal fable]

The one with the better team or product that you will be working on.

[last summit]

are you interested in bb's product

[formal fable]

Both are pretty much on par in terms of comp and resume value nowadays, with MSFT comps being a joke compared to most FAANG these days.

[last summit]

because msft is hella scattered and bb has just a couple main products

[nocturne oriole]

Not that it matters but anyone i know who has taken bb is cracked
@jaunty basalt trusted friend, which is better, msft or BB

[last summit]

so pick based on that

• location / tc

[formal fable]

BB is private, virtually unaffected by the recession relatively speaking and is all cash. Very stable, but your work totally depends on the team, much like MSFT.

[nocturne oriole]

That can happen anywhere. Just avoid their internal javascript or whatever frontend shit they push

[last summit]

i think layoff risk is basically the same at both

[slate bobcat]

BB the new FANG

they should call it BAANG

[formal fable]

What does that mean? They got teams working on tech ranging from backend, distributed systems, low-latency systems, to AI/ML (especially NLP). They are migrating a ton of their products and teams to standard and open source tech stacks. I know this cause I spent 2 hours discussing projects with my future team.

[slate bobcat]

like I just secured an offer to BAANG

@rain patio

[sonic coral]

Holy shit it’s 6%? I thought it was 1% from the articles I read

[brave dirge]

It's interesting how bloomberg can hire so aggressively this year

[brave dirge]

i hope it's not like meta last year

[tawdry skiff]

Wait layoffs are still happening?

[formal fable]

And you think Microsoft is the "bleeding edge of tech" these days? You do know that they nowadays have a reputation of "rest and vest" for a reason, right?

[tawdry skiff]

MSFT is dead

[lament summit]

they arent p sure they hiring just as usual

seems a lot cuz no one else is hiring

[uncut umbra]

I reached out to my recruiter via text and it was within a few days so idts

[nocturne oriole]

Bloomberg also moves a lot of ppl forward but not many get offer

So u get impression a lot of people are going to bb

Not true

[formal fable]

For example, they had an in-house DB and search that they used for most of their DevOps. Now, they'd be migrating to Cassandra and Elastic for some parts of their internal tools

[last summit]

i mean

objectively

that is true

[nocturne oriole]

Somebody on Blind did the math, cant find it. The confirmed 1000 ppl laid off is true. Anecdotally a friend’s swe coworker got laid off. Idk if this formal layoff at msft has hit tech employees

[tawdry skiff]

Ah so it's the total

MSFT did a round of vendor layoffs

[brave dirge]

Bloomberg's hiring as much as Amazon, which is a much much bigger company

[formal fable]

BB is not a downgrade to Microsoft, on average. And for any individual, that decision solely depends on the team. You can arrange calls with BB before joining to gauge your future projects. I'm not sure if MSFT will allow that.

[tawdry skiff]

Before the 1% FTE

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah im wrong then bb is popping off

[sonic coral]

Oh so it was 5% contractors 1% FTE?

[nocturne oriole]

I remember last year for new grad they moved a ton of people and not a lot passed

Lots of onsites

[sonic coral]

1% FTE is still a lot tbh

[nocturne oriole]

Lots of L’s

[formal fable]

As of today, I prefer BB over MSFT cause I know from a friend and my GF, both working at MSFT, they are not even worthy of their former FAANG tier.

[last summit]

bruh what lmao

[tawdry skiff]

IDK for sure, but I know for a fact 1% for FTE

[nocturne oriole]

FAANG tier is just a tier, it’s not literal faang companies anymore, i can agree with that

Just easy to say

[sonic coral]

I had a msft offer last year and what I gathered from people I talked to is that there’s several orgs at msft that are very siloed

[tawdry skiff]

Who cares about tier

Just give me money

[nocturne oriole]

If i like $ then bb is no brainer i guess

[winter loom]

Explain?

[white escarp]

Does bb have good wlb?

[formal fable]

You can just as well assume they write their tools and platforms in COBOL or something then. BB pays big bucks and hires rapidly every year. Unlike Zon and many others, they retain most of their employees for years. Some of the team members joined as new grads and stuck around, despite great pedigree for 6-10 years. So, I'm certain BB is any worse than MSFT

[tawdry skiff]

MSFT is very siloed, not apple tier but it's up there

[sonic coral]

BB does tend to lose employees around the 3 year mark

[brave dirge]

pretty good from what i heard

[formal fable]

Yeah, and during that training, teams will effectively pitch themselves to you. You provide your preference and then, per availability, you are offered a position

[sonic coral]

Largely due to the way bonuses are calculated once you hit 3 years

[nocturne oriole]

Well they also stay at BB cuz u cant boomerang

Like u literally cant

[tawdry skiff]

Damn

[nocturne oriole]

One and done

[formal fable]

The most chill in NYC. Folks I know there work half a day, remote and get paid far too much for the hours they put.

[white escarp]

Icic i heard banks usually havr bad wlb but bb is pron an exception

[dusty basin]

Wait so u can’t come back at all?

[cobalt siren]

What does boomerang mean

[winter loom]

They changed this recently

[nocturne oriole]

That’s what 2 friends who worked there told me, and one interned 3x at BB

[tawdry skiff]

Oh wait

[dusty basin]

Go and come back like boomerang

[nocturne oriole]

I can believe it changed recently but still seems tough

[dusty basin]

If u know how to throw it right

[cobalt siren]

I am dumb

[winter loom]

There are ppl who don’t want that tho

[sonic coral]

I mean there’s plenty of ny companies with good wlb lol, but I get what you mean

[tawdry skiff]

I want money

[nocturne oriole]

BB has grinders too

[tawdry skiff]

Give me money

[nocturne oriole]

Not just google tier coasters

[sonic coral]

Yeah those are the ones who stay 3+ years

[tawdry skiff]

Msft also has grinders

[cobalt siren]

I keep hearing that bb tech is outdated

[dusty basin]

I’ll give u money but u gotta do some stuff first

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah but they got nothing to show for it

[cobalt siren]

After em round I’m kinda considering them more if I get an offer

[winter loom]

Bb invited me and some other campus peeps for dinner yesterday and we asked this. The tech lead told us they changed it

[snow blade]

Anyone know if Citadel new grad OA is auto? Or is it after a resume screen?

[tawdry skiff]

But those people grind by tenure kek

[tawdry skiff]

Okay daddy

[winter loom]

Originally mike Bloomberg has a fuck u mentality if u left but it’s dropped since

[formal fable]

They used to group the likes of Google, Netflix, Facebook, etc together with MSFT. But MSFT has faltered in terms of comp, career growth/learning, and bar of hiring compared the rest.

They have their awesome work life balance going for them, but unless you're lucky, you aren't really working or learning that much as NG at MSFT today. Few teams are pushing their engineers on new and sophisticated projects or giving a competitive package

[dusty basin]

Msft quest pro first came out 2016

[nocturne oriole]

Sure even if true tbh i wouldnt think about it. Great opportunity for a NG

I would only take msft over it if i hated nyc and loved redmond

[formal fable]

Just a generic example. Not specific to my team. I asked them loads of questions after I got my offer. Still haven't accepted cause I keep probing the team

[dusty basin]

Redmond is nice

[sonic coral]

I heard msft Xbox org is the best but super hard to get

Like great wlb and interesting stuff to work on

[formal fable]

My point is, please don't consider BB any less than MSFT. Ask questions about your team, compare perks and decide.

[tawdry skiff]

I would live in cap Hill than Redmond

[cobalt siren]

Do I breakup with my girlfriend and go to nyc for bb or stay in Midwest and work at Veeva

[dusty basin]

U going to Xbox with me rob?

[white escarp]

Didnt they layoff ppl as well?

[tawdry skiff]

Yup

[nocturne oriole]

If u make $ in nyc u can fly your gf to you

Win win

[cobalt siren]

True I just hate long distance

Maybe we can make it work tho

[late kestrel]

ldr homie, it aint that bad. your situation is exactly what im doing

[tawdry skiff]

When are you flying me out?😭

[jaunty basalt]

Idk what the context is, but I think msft benefits are better you don’t get to choose ur team, here you do.

[dusty basin]

No space for gf in shoebox apt

[sonic coral]

I mean if you’re considering breaking up with your girlfriend for a new job it seems like that relationships days are numbered anyway lol

[nocturne oriole]

A college partner should not hold back ur career aspirations, i have discussed this with many friends

[formal fable]

BB has as good a resume value as MSFT in the US at least

[cobalt siren]

It’s a great relationship I just don’t think I can stomach long distance

[tawdry skiff]

Easier to replace gf than job

[nocturne oriole]

[cobalt siren]

Really haha

[tawdry skiff]

What's the diff in benefits?

[cobalt siren]

@late kestrel what are u considering aside from bb

[dusty basin]

I’ve seen some of u mfs. Definitely easier to find new job than new gf for u

[nocturne oriole]

Never time the market, we gonna hit double digits at meta any day now

[sonic coral]

BB is way more base

[nocturne oriole]

BASE MATTERS BABYYY

[tawdry skiff]

Then go for msft, but I like base

[sonic coral]

A big chunk of msft is stock

[jaunty basalt]

Look it up?

[tawdry skiff]

Base is stable

[cobalt siren]

Bb base is ridiculous

[tawdry skiff]

Stock is not

[nocturne oriole]

Is msft 401k even good

Good PTO tho

[tawdry skiff]

Lol

[jaunty basalt]

It’s the same as urs probably

[sonic coral]

I think msft 401k is similar to G iirc

[late kestrel]

i was in veeva pipeline and had c1 but dropped both bc we both value early careers

[sonic coral]

Where you can match up to 20k

[tawdry skiff]

Nah

[nocturne oriole]

Oh yeah g meta msft have similar

[jaunty basalt]

I was gonna say

[sonic coral]

TYPO lmfaooo

[jaunty basalt]

50k

[tawdry skiff]

Match to 20k

No way 50k

[nocturne oriole]

Free money bro

[tawdry skiff]

I wish 50k match

[dusty basin]

what’s a 401k

[sonic coral]

I heard msft benefits are goated tho

[waxen bolt]

I heard C++ and Java now but they're trying to move towards more Java

[nocturne oriole]

Bro @rain patio u sound like a grinder take bb

[tawdry skiff]

Would be sucking dicks right now for 50k match

[nocturne oriole]

If u were coaster take msft

But u are clearly not

[tawdry skiff]

No free food

[nocturne oriole]

Office life is great as a new grad

Big deal

[sonic coral]

HQ has free lunch no?

[tawdry skiff]

Not at msft

At Cost pricing

[waxen bolt]

Sometimes your team will get catered lunch if you're lucky but they cut all that budget cuz of the recession

[sonic coral]

Levels says they got free dinner

[tawdry skiff]

That's cali

[waxen bolt]

The cafeterias close at like 4pm lmfao that's cap

[cobalt siren]

Why does free lunch matter when you can get a hotdog every day and every meal at Costco for 1.50

[nocturne oriole]

Meanwhile i fly to london business class this weekend

😮‍💨

[sonic coral]

Msft?

[waxen bolt]

Yeah at least for Redmond campus

[tawdry skiff]

When msft acquired LinkedIn on Cali, they said we keep our free food

[sonic coral]

I see

[tawdry skiff]

One thing that im jelly with meta
Automatic business class for flights over 2k miles

[formal fable]

The folks I've spoken to in my team and others who referred me have the flexibility to work full remote and they repeat the same for the rest of the company

The team I'm supposed to join. I ask the recruiter to schedule a meeting and we had a call.

[cobalt siren]

But only cause they’re senior I assume

[gleaming fable]

The best is if you're wfh and you get to just comp food delivered every now and then

[sonic coral]

Oh msft also has a 1.5k a year wellness reimbursement

[cobalt siren]

I’m under the impression that bb remote is not an option at all for ng

[sonic coral]

Which I heard is quite flexible as to what constitutes “wellness”

[gleaming fable]

See if you can use this on fitness wearables like you can at my company

Get yourself an Apple Watch ultra lol

[sonic coral]

I heard azure compute is like the worst wlb in msft

[tawdry skiff]

Yes that works

[formal fable]

That, I cannot comment with first-hand experience, but I have worked in extremely toxic companies before and that stress culture is easy to spot, especially on senior engineers. Belive me, SSEs in heavy workloads, work more than SEs in toxic places. I would guess based on my experience across 3 startups, BB is super chill

[tawdry skiff]

You can also use to pay off student loans

It's through the same company everyone uses afaik

[gleaming fable]

No need dark Brandon is paying off mine

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah im taking 5 connecting flights to fly within USA

rack up miles

[gleaming fable]

Average CS grinder be like

[sonic coral]

I mean I guess, I knew an Xbox marketplace intern and it seemed like his team worked on interesting stuff while also having good wlb

[nocturne oriole]

I used to think 50 hrs a week was bad wlb

[brave dirge]

i feel any job would be better than school hours

[nocturne oriole]

[brave dirge]

school is nonstop work

[tawdry skiff]

I still have too much

[sonic coral]

Bruh -70k a year

Christ

[gleaming fable]

I'm doing 3-4 work trips a year so this Amex plat is actually gonna give me my moneys worth lol

[tawdry skiff]

Fuck

[gleaming fable]

For sure I'm just joking

[tawdry skiff]

I'm not

20 hours or the company is dying

[gleaming fable]

I mean it depends on what you consider work

If I count just actual technical work where I'm focused in it's def 20 hours a week max, the rest is meetings

[tawdry skiff]

1 hour of technical
9 hours of meeting
10 hours of lunch and bathroom breaks

[wheat seal]

How’s afresh?

[tawdry skiff]

My effective hourly better be in $200 when I grad

[wheat seal]

Ur industry rn though

[tawdry skiff]

Yup

[wheat seal]

Do u miss google

[tawdry skiff]

Yup

Lol

[dusty basin]

Go back

Ez

[wheat seal]

Google is everything and more

[tawdry skiff]

One day I'll go back

Time to make money first

[vital meteor]

Do you travel alot @snow shard

[tawdry skiff]

Then rest and vest

You don't know that

Base is consistent

Just buy MSFT stock right now

[wheat seal]

Bloomberg would probably be more interesting work too

[sonic coral]

Kinda weird take in a recession imo

[tawdry skiff]

If you trust in stock kek

[wheat seal]

I mean msft stock will go up if u plan to stay long but then again job hopping would get u better results

Like if u plan to stay for 4+yrs at msft then go msft

[brave dirge]

now it's really good time to get stocks cus market is low

[wheat seal]

But if u wanna hop after 2 years, go bloomberg

[vital meteor]

Hop takes so much more effort though

[robust kettle]

Just spent an hour on number of islands for bloomberg phone 🪦

[vital meteor]

Gotta lc again

[tawdry skiff]

It does

[prime palm]

W or L

[tawdry skiff]

But becomes less about LC and more about sys

[robust kettle]

L i think lol.

[wheat seal]

Wait was that because u were just faking?

[pure mauve]

lmao had something similar, got rej hour later even though solved perfect

[wheat seal]

Was it num of islands 2?

[prime palm]

bro am i a virgin for having a favourite leetcode question

cuz i do

shortest path in binary matrix

[vital meteor]

Isnt num islands LC easy

[prime palm]

🔥

[robust kettle]

nah i'm a noob and only can do most easies and a few meds, took me a while to implement BFS

[tawdry skiff]

Two sum

[brave dirge]

medium

[wheat seal]

Oh dang sorry to hear that

[robust kettle]

just 1

[prime palm]

ikr

[vital meteor]

Haha same

[brave dirge]

My fav is top k ...

[vital meteor]

[wheat seal]

Num of islands was for phone?

[robust kettle]

ya was for me

[tawdry skiff]

Actually I love dp

[prime palm]

aw yeah

love to see it

[robust kettle]

guy had a bad connection so didn't even do a video interview, just called me

[tawdry skiff]

Fuck two sum

Dp is best

[viscid needle]

New grad or intern?

[prime palm]

we're in #2023_grads

so yeah

[knotty talon]

Does Datadog call to reject?

[prime palm]

@knotty talon afaik no

@gentle peak is Bloomberg VO 2x leetcode rounds?

no systems design right

🤔

[knotty talon]

Bet 🙏

[viscid needle]

Ooh facts

2 technical rounds

If ur campus recruitment

Possible that you get non tagged

[prime palm]

bet

[viscid needle]

They do respond near instantly with ur next interview/step tho

[prime palm]

yeah

if you get HM

bloomberg is just apply -> phone (1 leetcode round 2 questions) -> VO (2 leetocde rounds 2 questions) -> EM?

[viscid needle]

Engineering manager/Recruiter round

[prime palm]

design leadrboard?

bet

[fossil jewel]

my bbg vo didn’t have design

[gleaming fable]

Going great everyone's in high spirits after the work trip

[west egret]

I think on average

tagged is best way to go

[foggy hinge]

Anyone did Bloomberg em round last week? Your recruiters reach out yet?

[brave dirge]

My HR+EM round is gonna be 1.5 hour😨

what could they even talk about to fill this much time

[west egret]

HR is about 30 mins and EM is 45-60 mins if you're not expedited.

Assuming your interviewers want to use the full time anyways

You got offer though?

Like a lot of things in life, recruiting is a lot of RNG

[foggy hinge]

how long did it take you guys to hear back after the EM round?

[west egret]

I have mine in 2 hours

[foggy hinge]

oh shit gluck

[west egret]

nervous af

[foggy hinge]

you doing nyc right? I hurd london is hard af

[west egret]

Yeah NYC

[sage sluice]

my bloomberg interviewer gave me 1 leetcode(ish) problem and then gave me the same problem with additional constraints

idk if thats good enough

idk if i was expected to do all that and then a completely different problem

[waxen bolt]

I only got 1 question for one of my VOs so I wouldn't fret

[sage sluice]

it was my phone interview

[waxen bolt]

I wouldn't stress too much if they gave you the same problem with additional constraints it might as well be two problems

[sage sluice]

dope, ill just wait and see

[lethal turret]

now today is officially bloomberg ghost me 2 weeks after em round😀

[sage sluice]

anyone know if Lucid expects you to completely finish the 3rd part (the game) in the phone interview

[viscid needle]

U should probs email the recruiter lol

[dreamy cliff]

anyone interview with disney streaming?

[lethal turret]

I wait a more week and I'll email them

I dont have any other offers

yet

[waxen bolt]

two weeks is already so long you should email them now

[dapper jasper]

Who else got 800+ and didn’t hear back from eBay while everybody else seems to be 😭💀💀💀

[pure mauve]

bruh getting ghosted after interviews is such a pain

if only i had an offer deadline

[teal jackal]

does bloomberg do behavioral on the first round?

[lone rapids]

Meee

[dapper jasper]

Ls 😭

[uncut umbra]

what are the sentiments regarding forward

[teal jackal]

does bloomberg do behavioral on the first round?

[uncut umbra]

got an invite for a recruiter call

[uneven grove]

I was asked a couple behavioral questions about my resume

[last summit]

only consider if u have no other options

their behavior as a company is trash

[teal jackal]

do we theorize that bloomberg weighs the behaviorals heavily when deciding who to advance?

[uncut umbra]

do elaborate lol

[last summit]

search "forward" in this channel

[formal fable]

People barely blink an eye drawing a distinction between the likes of Google and MSFT.

"Rest and vest" is a term I've learnt on this server specifically in a comment about MSFT

[last summit]

infinite examples

forward operates like the way I would imagine a tech company in the 1800s

[uncut umbra]

since when did you have a blog lmao

[forest aspen]

^

[uncut umbra]

and that post is shitting on forward lmfao

share it

[fossil jewel]

actual behavioral is after VO

[uncut umbra]

every single message is about people copy pasting their rejection emails

[forest aspen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL3NIRQrgxE

[uneven grove]

Is their system design in Bloomberg VO?

[fossil jewel]

though the interviewer might have the classic “tell me about your self”

[warm monolith]

does palantir candidate survey after onsite mean anything?

or is it sent to everyone

[winter loom]

rejection :/

they sent me that before rejection pretty sure a lot of ppl had that survey as well

[dapper jasper]

I got nm to say about forward but got rejected after doing the naive solution and explaining the correct ideal solution verbally in remaining time for second round

So in short fuck their hoe asses

[forest aspen]

i think it would be more embarrassing to say you were good at it

[uncut umbra]

the only reason I know osu is because I love fly high the jpop song from haikyuu and the only reason someone else knew what that was was from osu

lmaooooo alright fuck em then

[forest aspen]

at least you play beatmaps you can complete, i just play 1.5 stars above my level because i like how fast it is

[formal fable]

Folks here are drawing comparisons in terms of their career prospects, not investment opportunities. FAANG does have it's roots in top market valuation companies, but for most of us, it's an indicator of excellence in terms of places of work.

That's an understanding most of us have so I didn't feel like clarifying that I'm talking about work at Microsoft and not their stock performance.

[nocturne oriole]

HELP CHILDREN LEARN SPANISH OR LAUNCH MISSILES

!choose help the kids, nuke em

[earnest warren]

nuke em

[uncut umbra]

forward pays decent for swe new grad tho, idk if I want to dump that in the trash

[forest aspen]

thats better than me

i wish i recorded my gameplay when i played a lot of ow though

had so much fun

i have a singular potg where i popped off on google drive

thats pretty much it

but the recording is like 6 years old

[fossil jewel]

HELP CHILDREN LEARN SPANISH OR LAUNCH MISSILES

the missile market?

[forest aspen]

nah "product" market

[orchid aspen]

yo guys do you know if peeing during proctored hackerrank will disqualify you?

i really had to go pee during tiktok oa

[forest aspen]

i was eating macncheese durng a codesignal and they failed me

[sudden depot]

has anyone taken the statefarm hirevue?

[uncut umbra]

the solutions are hidden in the pasta

[forest aspen]

sad part is, i popped off on it too

[orchid aspen]

srs bro?

damn

welll uuuh

did you get rejected by the company or was it hackerrank that said test invalid?

[forest aspen]

invalid

[orchid aspen]

maynee

[compact obsidian]

tbh microsoft would not be around today if satya/cloud computing didn't happen

[uncut umbra]

satya as in?

a guy?

[compact obsidian]

yeah satya the guy

[uncut umbra]

oh took a course with him this spring

[last summit]

Mr. Nutella

[uncut umbra]

wait nadella?

[last summit]

[uncut umbra]

bruh I'm dumb asf

yeo that's the largest L I've taken outside the recruiting process this sem

[orchid aspen]

ayo thats codesignal not hackerrank i just realized

[last summit]

it happens

[lethal turret]

who sent you the phone call invite? the initial recruiter or the hr at the hr round

[forest aspen]

yeah, so it might be different for you

[orchid aspen]

bro if they fail me imma be so mad i did so well during that oa too

i just had to mf pee or i couldnt concentrate

[lethal turret]

gotcha

[forest aspen]

that was me but i was hungry

[fossil jewel]

not me thinking that you peed yourself

[rough ivy]

Does anyone attended Morgan stanley super day?

[orchid aspen]

ngl i was considering that option

i was fr popping off on that oa

didnt wanna risk being disqualified

but sometimes you have to accept your fate

[rough ivy]

Does anyone attended Morgan Stanley super day? What is expected in that interview?

[knotty talon]

Sigma grindset shit

[brittle sigil]

pro tip to anyone searching about the chewy sparkhire: if they ever ask you to tell them about yourself, the part they actually care about is why you want to work there; if you try giving an elevator pitch, it'll just get repeated in the following questions

[ivory stratus]

why is lowest common ancestor in bst a mediuym

[last summit]

are you advocating for it being easy or hard

[knotty talon]

If ddog calls me just to reject imma be sad

[ivory stratus]

dude i shit you not

i have gotten that at least 10 times in the past 3 months

[knotty talon]

Manifesting non-rejection

[tawdry skiff]

OMG

Mr beast

[ivory stratus]

i should start a youtube channel called Mr. Animal

[tawdry skiff]

Can you give me money

[ivory stratus]

ill have squid games for the cscareers.dev people

winner gets 5mil

[late zephyr]

hi erm
sorry to barge in here but
does anyone have intel on citadel final round

[ivory stratus]

but they're so easy

oh fuck that

wtf

[fossil jewel]

that one isn’t so bad tbh

kinda like dfs tbh

[ivory stratus]

it's easy for me now

like it makes sense

[fossil jewel]

dp and recursion

honestly i’m not good with any of the more advanced topics

heaps, graphs, greedy and backtracking

don’t know em

gotta learn them to know how to center a div though

[ivory stratus]

i believe in you

[sudden depot]

it's so rough rn

[ivory stratus]

Microsoft will always be relevant

[timber rock]

i just did optiver oa and now need to go curl up in a ball and recover my cells

[ivory stratus]

they have too much going on: video games, VR/AR, Windows, Government deals

[sonic coral]

Just because a company will be relevant doesn’t mean their stock won’t go down in the short term

[ivory stratus]

everyone's stock is going down right now

[sonic coral]

That’s why I think considering base vs RSU is important

[sonic coral]

Yeah I know but originally we were discussing more base vs more rsus

[ivory stratus]

i mean over 4 years time though, unless it's a smaller company, most stocks will go up. if i were to go to FAANG, i probably wouldnt care too much about stock or worry about it

[west egret]

Yeah DFS with a stack

[ivory stratus]

ahhhhh gotcha

[ivory stratus]

netflix is where it's at then

[ivory stratus]

all paper money

[sonic coral]

Yeah like it was BB vs Msft basically

Which was similar tc but diff breakdown

[ivory stratus]

fair

[west egret]

Bro I just want BB and chill lol

[sonic coral]

Msft tends to have lower base than rest of faang

[ivory stratus]

but like 5 year history for microsoft is 200%

[uncut umbra]

this is one of the only lc mediums I figured out on my own

[ivory stratus]

that 100k stock turned into 200k over your time

[west egret]

Did VO already

[sonic coral]

So considering stuff like that if you have both offers is def fair

[west egret]

EM in 40 mins

[uncut umbra]

both?

[west egret]

Tagged

And talk out your thought process

I didn’t even fully solve myself

[teal jackal]

ah so everything before final is technical

cool

[west egret]

I just talked a lot to show my thoughts and they’d offer hints if needed

Ymmv with interviewers but my BB interviewers have been chill

Depends on interviewer I think

[uncut umbra]

holy shit liz truss resigned

fucking hell

FUCK MOCK THE WEEK WON'T TALK ABOUT IT

THEY RECORDED YESTERDAY

[west egret]

But for the most part you do go over resume. Whether you get asked sys design is RNG it seems like.

[uncut umbra]

did anyone take the exoduspoint oa

[teal jackal]

im super nervous of fucking up my phone

is phone a technical interview?

[uncut umbra]

bb phone?

it's technical yeah

[gleaming fable]

lmao rip bozo

[gilded dust]

I feel like everyone and their mother has a bb interview

Does bb usually do well during a recession

[uncut umbra]

big game james, back from the dead

[teal jackal]

who the fuck put michael bloomberg 2020 ads on my ti84 calculator

[pure mauve]

its doom season

[wind drum]

i heard it was unimaginably cringe

[uncut umbra]

yeah I heard the same lmao

gonna open it and if it sucks, close that mfer at the speed of sound

[wind drum]

did anyone use ddia as prep for palantir decomp

or is that overkill

[oak patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/y977yw/cap1_rescinding_offers/

Is this true?

[whole berry]

bruh..............

[indigo raft]

noOOOOOOO

[wind drum]

if it's true at least it's fairly early

[uncut umbra]

are you

fuckin serious

[outer radish]

im literally feeling so burned out

[teal jackal]

NO NO NO NO NO

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

NO NO NO

NO NO NO NO NO

NOOOOOOOOo

NOO NOO NOO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONOOOOO

NOOOO

NO NO NO NO NO

[tawdry skiff]

wait

is this intern or ng?

[teal jackal]

why did op delete it anyways

[uncut umbra]

some people in comments are confirming

it could be for intern

because one of the people responding is looking for internships

[tawdry skiff]

okay

good shit

[uncut umbra]

couple more people are confirming tho

[teal jackal]

i will be asking to push my interview up

[uncut umbra]

one of the other people confirming is also for internships

[wind drum]

the post said interns yeah

[uncut umbra]

oh shit

damn if companies are axing interns?

that's fucked

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[pale kettle]

anyone sc the contents its deleted now

[teal jackal]

why did op delete the post anyways

[teal jackal]

what wsa it

[whole berry]

taken down by big c1

[late kestrel]

i aint gonna believe it till someone posts an email

[teal jackal]

LOL

[west egret]

You got this homie

[teal jackal]

rescinding people in THIS economy?

holy shit i feel so bad for those interns

for many of those interns, C1 was probably their only opportunity
not to mention the people who cancelled and dropped out of other processes after getting the offer

for everyone here

[wheat seal]

?

[teal jackal]

the op of the reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/y977yw/cap1_rescinding_offers/

[wheat seal]

C1 rescinded?

[sacred leaf]

does anyone know how to check HRT OA score for SWE? or is it even possible?

[teal jackal]

according to this post

[wheat seal]

TF

how is capitol one doing bad in this economy?

[outer radish]

honestly its just rough getting torn apart by my time at amazon then getting absolutely shrekt tryna study for school and interview

[teal jackal]

i geuinely hope that this is a dumb prank

[wheat seal]

shouldnt cap1 have higher interest rates for lones and such?

so more cash flow no?

or isnt that simple

[teal jackal]

fuck scchool man stop trying in class

just pass

c1 is a bank right?

[indigo raft]

is the post troll

[teal jackal]

i know that people actually use c1

[waxen bolt]

It's a recession... all banks are not performing well. Interest rates fall so they can't lend or make as much. Less people are taking out loans. Banks have to lower their risk tolerance so they lend less

[wheat seal]

this is crazy

[west egret]

I changed my view on school this semester. Hopefully most of my applications will be out before semester ends. In which case, I can still use my higher GPA.

[wheat seal]

c1 is a top tier bank though

[night magnet]

Go to codesignal assessments

[wheat seal]

c1 is even suffering?

[waxen bolt]

It doesn't matter. The fed wants to curb inflation so it carries over to the banks. No bank is exempt from this

[night magnet]

I mean it’s basically the highest paying bank

I think they mean for SWE

cap1 is def not a bank for rich ppl

[waxen bolt]

Yeah I think C1 has better tech than Chase but Chase is catching up

[night magnet]

That’s first republic

[sacred leaf]

it was a custom OA from HRT, not the standard one, it doesn't show in the codesignal profile. is there another way to see score? i saw some ppl talking about it

[wheat seal]

oh i see. So interest rates dont get too high from banks

damn then what place will hire now?

[night magnet]

Oh then u can’t. I emailed codesignal asking how to get score for custom assessment and they said u can’t

[waxen bolt]

Banks will always perform better in a bull market and will perform worse in a bear market. It's just the way the financial system works. It's all about how much money the fed wants to allow in circulation. And this is for every bank Chase, Citi, C1, etc.

[livid citrus]

yes but i needed 2 hints in my phone so idk

[tawdry skiff]

credit Suisse is the best one

[indigo raft]

do all the banks do the same thing dev wise

what does visa do

[waxen bolt]

Visa isn't a bank

[indigo raft]

oh

LMFAO oops

[tawdry skiff]

visa dn

[wheat seal]

so not even banks r safe

[indigo raft]

what's dn

[whole berry]

its how capitalism works

[wheat seal]

tech companies are better then banks then now?

[waxen bolt]

Depends on the tech company. A lot of companies that relied on loans and other forms of lending are suffering because they can't source cash as easily to keep growing. Others like FAANG aren't suffering too much cuz they're already making so much money. But even they have frozen hiring.

[ivory stratus]

whats the best resource for sys design?

[night magnet]

I feel like Bloomberg is like the safest thing out there

That’s hiring

And DDIA

[sudden depot]

https://github.com/donnemartin/system-design-primer this is a good one

[brave dirge]

any consequence for reneging offers?

i don’t feel safe only signing one

[night magnet]

I accepted 3

To be safe

[brave dirge]

👍🏻

[waxen bolt]

They might blacklist you for a while but that's it

[night magnet]

But u might be black listed

Ya

[brave dirge]

does the school care? i need my opt

[wheat seal]

accept everything now

everything u get

[night magnet]

Honestly

Might be the move

[night magnet]

if u have a reasonable excuse what can they do

Stuff happens

U can get a stroke or heart attack or …

[ivory stratus]

im putting together a github repo for my school for them to have interviewing resources

[teal jackal]

nowehre is safe lol

[tawdry skiff]

fuck the school

[wheat seal]

yea i agree, BB is like the best thing right now thats hiring right now

[ivory stratus]

literally no one here knows how much you can make as an SWE

[tawdry skiff]

the school can sugma balls

[night magnet]

Wdym

[ivory stratus]

in hawaii

[wheat seal]

didnt u get CAP1?

[ivory stratus]

because we're so far removed from mainland companies

[tawdry skiff]

dont renege that looks bad at school
hello school, did you help me get job

no?

sugma

[ivory stratus]

everyone is like "oh it would be cool to make at least $60/80k"

[tawdry skiff]

I dont go to berk

[ivory stratus]

and im like bruh you can make a lot more

[tawdry skiff]

[ivory stratus]

trying to help my fellow peers in getting dem bags

[night magnet]

Ya

[slate bobcat]

Do you still go to Berkley?

[tawdry skiff]

conjugal visits

[slate bobcat]

Cause I need the exam answer for DN

[night magnet]

What’s dn

Deez 🥜

[thorn walrus]

airtable is out

[ivory stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[night magnet]

Lmaoo why is this emoji named kekw recession edition

[ivory stratus]

link?

[wheat seal]

they didnt rescind new grad?

[thorn walrus]

#grad_postings_old message

[tawdry skiff]

I got you, I have the midterm for 61c

[slate bobcat]

[whole berry]

airtable bouta be like

guys what happened why did we receive 4k applications in a matter of minutes

[night magnet]

No for me so far

[tawdry skiff]

kek

[thorn walrus]

wait airtable lets you choose how to do pre onsite

that’s really cool tbh