2023_grads

[tawdry skiff]

Toby is 🐐

[jaunty basalt]

Sassy?

[tawdry skiff]

Sassy emotional

[jaunty basalt]

Bully McGuire has an issue with that

[tawdry skiff]

That's why I said toby 🐐

[nocturne oriole]

!choose ethical faang job, unethical quant job

[earnest warren]

unethical quant job

[wheat seal]

Google swe is probably just playing pump it up in office

[late kestrel]

@autumn ridge soooooooo whatchagondo

[nocturne oriole]

!choose missiles and plushies, help children and feel good

[earnest warren]

help children and feel good

[autumn ridge]

I have no idea leaning towards Snap. We will see what BB counters with. Also waiting to hear back from Pinterest had final today and have Palantir HM 10/24. Really no idea rn but current BB and Snap prolly Snap

[tawdry skiff]

Needs more animal crossing plush

[nocturne oriole]

[tawdry skiff]

!choose bb,pins,palantir,snap

[earnest warren]

snap

[tawdry skiff]

@autumn ridge looks like snap it is

[earnest warren]

amazon

[autumn ridge]

damn it's been decided

[wheat seal]

U got Pinterest?

[vale anchor]

!choose Bloomberg, OCI

[earnest warren]

OCI

[tawdry skiff]

!boldfancy unite koreas, delete taiwan

[earnest warren]

𝓾𝓷𝓲𝓽𝓮 𝓴𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓼, 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓮 𝓽𝓪𝓲𝔀𝓪𝓷

[autumn ridge]

No I had final today that I think went pretty good

[tawdry skiff]

!choose 𝓾𝓷𝓲𝓽𝓮 𝓴𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓼, 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓮 𝓽𝓪𝓲𝔀𝓪𝓷

[earnest warren]

𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓮 𝓽𝓪𝓲𝔀𝓪𝓷

[wheat seal]

Wait ud take snap over bbg?

[nocturne oriole]

@dusky plover

[autumn ridge]

At current BB offer probably. I don't really want to live in NYC and it's less money if the stock doesn't tank. Obv more risky though

[wheat seal]

I mean 155k base and bonus is a good amount too

Idk snap just doesn’t seem that stable like they had a large layoff recently no?

[autumn ridge]

Yeah they laid off 20% like 2 months ago

[rain patio]

korean books and kpop music?

[dusky plover]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[wheat seal]

Yea u wanna join something stable in this economy rn

With bbg ud have literally 0 worries

[rain patio]

yea seemed very familiar

[wheat seal]

Less money if stock doesn’t tank? I’m confused by what ur saying. Less money if stock does tank right? Like are u talking about snap?

[kind orbit]

yall does negotiation work for new grad roles? have people been successful

[wheat seal]

If stock doesn’t tank ud be making the same or more right

[autumn ridge]

Snap pay is more assuming the stock stayed flat for 3 years

[wheat seal]

Yea so u mean more money then

Not less

[autumn ridge]

Obviously that's a big assumption stock could go down it could go up it just depends.

[bronze nymph]

ngl i'd take bloomberg just for peace of mind

[wheat seal]

Yea same

[autumn ridge]

I just don't want to live in NYC

[wheat seal]

Bloomberg is amazing resume value and great comp

155k base

And a large bonus too

A decent bonus

[autumn ridge]

I think Snap is better than BB for resume

[jaunty basalt]

Take snap

[wheat seal]

Not rn though

Snap is literally tanking

[autumn ridge]

Especially if you want to work in a similar space

[jaunty basalt]

U literally do not want to live where you gonna have to work

[lament summit]

@queen valve

u here

?

[jaunty basalt]

I would not focus on company financials too much

[lament summit]

ur name worked

PIN OFFER

[wheat seal]

Have u visited?

[autumn ridge]

Doesn't matter they didn't drop their hiring bar or stop serving 100's of millions of users from a resume perspective

[wheat seal]

Bloomberg is even more competitive to get this year though lol

Everyone is applying to bbg

[autumn ridge]

bruh how lol Snap isn't even hiring only a couple return intern offers for backfill

[nocturne oriole]

Take both and renege one

[wheat seal]

That’s because they aren’t doing well in economy

They had a 20% layoff like u said

[tawdry skiff]

https://reddit.com/r/overemployed

Don't renege

Accept all

[wheat seal]

But @autumn ridge ur in a amazing place rn.Have u talked to anyone in snap to see how office environment is now?

[nocturne oriole]

@eager aurora and i will see u there

[jaunty basalt]

It’s a return offer u like it there already don’t sacrifice that

[nocturne oriole]

I renedged redfin for meta last yesr

[eager aurora]

yes

!process hell offer

[autumn ridge]

Yeah I had a call with my manager after I heard about the offer. He said things are okay.

[wheat seal]

So u think snap is safe rn then?

[jaunty basalt]

It is

[deft crow]

Going back to Snap, feel like if they anticipated more layoffs then they would not give any returns

[jaunty basalt]

Ikr

Like it’s ok

[vale anchor]

how about bbg and oci?

[fossil jewel]

congrats @autumn ridge

!!

[rain patio]

if you accept 1200 200k+ jobs at once you can retire after a month

[nocturne oriole]

Nobody is anticipating layoffs. Even msft is shitting the bed rn

Stability matters a lot

[sonic coral]

!roll 6

[earnest warren]

rob rolls 3 (1-6)

[wheat seal]

I agree

[autumn ridge]

That's what I'm saying. It's still more risky than BB but like it would make no sense for them to have layoffs again < 1 year

[wheat seal]

Stability > comp rn

[tawdry skiff]

Quite sad how they just randomly firing senior folks at msft

[sonic coral]

!choose 2023 grads, full timers

[earnest warren]

full timers

[tawdry skiff]

Doesn't seem like it's based on perf, just snapping

[wheat seal]

I think msft just drops orgs/products that they feel isn’t going to yield profit

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah like it already happened, it’s not like it was some duct tape you be aight

[wheat seal]

But like 9mths from now is the point

[hasty birch]

Just say you're a spring grad now

Doesn't matter bc still 2023

[wheat seal]

U mean everybody?

[deft crow]

I'm returning to Snap cause I'm really interested in the work, I feel like if you're primarily focused on comp it's prob better to do BB cause of the stability. I think it'll be fine at Snap but still

[hasty birch]

You don't have to disclose anything you don't want to

[wheat seal]

U work at bbg ?

[deft crow]

Snap

[hasty birch]

Unless they explicitly ask you

[fossil jewel]

situations always change, you dont really need to disclose specifics

[hasty birch]

Hmm, try asking if can just do the August start date first. But yeah just be as vague as possible

[fossil jewel]

and since fall 22 and spring 23 grads can have the same start dates, it wont hurt

[late kestrel]

sheesh some good options

[fossil jewel]

fr cracked ppl in here

[hasty birch]

Or if you like punishment you could still start in January and do your class at the same time lmao @peak reef

[foggy perch]

damn nice

what're the numbers 👀

[hasty birch]

This server has the most cracked CS majors fr

[fossil jewel]

the name does work lmaoo

[crude saffron]

There’s like 80k people

[fossil jewel]

at least its not a lot of gatekeepers (at least the active ones)

[foggy perch]

alright you've convinced me

[fossil jewel]

keeping it for the future

we're all hachiyuki on this fine day

[lament summit]

LMAOOO

@queen valve look what ive done

[crude saffron]

Deriving the closed form sln for Bayesian linear reg is fun

[rain patio]

why are there so many hachiyukis

[foggy perch]

I'm ready to drag the HachiYuki namesake in the mud once I get rejected by pinterest

[tawdry skiff]

Maybe month and a half

[fossil jewel]

wait i think i already did drag it

since the bbg reject

let me not spoil it for y'all

[lament summit]

alright i release the hachi power

[uncut umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/416247910624395264.gif?size=48

ok also

changing my name

fuck it

[crude saffron]

Chi offer energy*

[nocturne oriole]

!choose my AI professor covered bayesian statistics, linear regression, bayesian linear regression, jax api, stochastic gradient descent, logistic regression, MLE, backpropagation, CNNs, and RNNs in a month and expects people with no previous ML/AI experience to understand all that for the midterm 🤦‍♂️

[earnest warren]

backpropagation

[rain patio]

hey guys, its me, HachiYuki

[uncut umbra]

no we're stealing your energy

[tawdry skiff]

Based

[uncut umbra]

I want job

[jaunty basalt]

The new yahkuna

[foggy perch]

sorry the power of HachiYuki offers is divided now

it's over

[tawdry skiff]

Backprop is op af

[fossil jewel]

[nocturne oriole]

hey guys, its me, HachiYuki and this is my day in the life of writing performant software for launching missiles

[fossil jewel]

hey guys, its me, HachiYuki and this is my day in the life of writing performant software for launching missiles

[nocturne oriole]

chill hop lo fi beats with rain plays in background

[tawdry skiff]

!eightball hey guys, its me, HachiYuki and this is my day in the life of writing performant software for launching missiles

[earnest warren]

:8ball: | Signs point to yes, MouseRunner

[nocturne oriole]

“My desk setup is stolen from mayuko”

[crude saffron]

I was also nyc simp and got no nyc offers

[rain patio]

hey guys, its me, HachiYuki and this is my day in the life of writing performant software for launching missiles

[tawdry skiff]

I was in the same boat but had good math and stats background

[rain patio]

on the side I like to teach spanish

[tawdry skiff]

Numpy is an ass with dimensions I will say

[foggy perch]

hey guys, it's me, YukiHachi, and today I'll be committing warcrimes with c++

[uncut umbra]

hey guys, it's hachiyuki once again, and today we're going to be talking about how during a tech freeze, I got 6 offers that caused my fellow swe new grads to enter into a squid game of their own making to get my scraps

[tawdry skiff]

I had a lot of fun with my ML class

[rain patio]

watashi no

[hasty birch]

"HachiYuki and HachiYuki are typing..."

[tawdry skiff]

Hated my AI prof and dropped the class

[uncut umbra]

anime vibes

[foggy perch]

you

[tawdry skiff]

Must show up to class

[rain patio]

[crude saffron]

First to get nyc offer is the real hachiyuki

[rain patio]

im working remote in nyc

am i real

[tawdry skiff]

Held discussions in class

[crude saffron]

So true bestie

[tawdry skiff]

Reverse learning bs

[fossil jewel]

[uncut umbra]

we should have 3 hachiyuki's speak at once

[fossil jewel]

i interned in JC (they called it NY metro)

[uncut umbra]

so we can get a legendary screenshot

[tawdry skiff]

Mf, I pay like $400 for you to teach the class

The fuck you mean I have to pay to learn it on my own

[uncut umbra]

hey that's where I wanna be full time, I got family there

joyze boi right here

[fossil jewel]

we got better bagels n pizza

🗽

[nocturne oriole]

Jersey got the fat sandwiches at rutgers

[hasty birch]

Wait this makes no sense

[nocturne oriole]

Best thing in jersey

[uncut umbra]

sorry pizza in jersey >>> pizza in nyc

also

best indian food in the us

in edison

[nocturne oriole]

Bro do u wanna die

[uncut umbra]

do I answer this honestly

[nocturne oriole]

No

[uncut umbra]

then no

[nocturne oriole]

!choose live long enough to get the bag, die trying

[earnest warren]

die trying

[nocturne oriole]

[fossil jewel]

in fairness the area by hoboken is nice

[uncut umbra]

well that's my life rn anyway lmfao

thanks for the prescience

[nocturne oriole]

If srs i wish u da best. Life is tough

And this place makes me want to leave the planet as well

The worst new grads in history right here

[fossil jewel]

the nice view

[tawdry skiff]

Bye

[uncut umbra]

if this was directed to me, I appreciate it. I'm just trying to secure the bag so I can rest after half a decade of grinding my ass off. who knows if it'll work but if it doesn't, I plan on grinding next year anyway. if my life is destined to be a never-ending struggle to get a single dub then so be it

[nova reef]

AI course in every school = you have no fking clue on which area of ML you wanna work on so you just learn a bit of everything 😂

[upbeat quartz]

Anyone also experienced applying for DoorDash NG but received "Intern DoorDash's HackerRank" instead?

[pure mauve]

lol wtf

[serene nymph]

whats the link to apply for citadel as a new grad?

is it this one? https://www.citadel.com/careers/details/campus-23-software-engineering-full-time/

[pure mauve]

welcome to ghosting season

[uncut umbra]

you can try that link, but I think more than likely that the cit ship has sailed

[serene nymph]

f

[serene nymph]

what about this link instead?https://www.citadel.com/careers/details/software-engineer-full-time-us/

[sonic coral]

!coinflip

[earnest warren]

Tails

[fervent drift]

trying, weight of failure is gettin to heavy

[indigo raft]

I didn’t pay attention to my dd OA but I had the same thing w Okta and it was fine

I think some places use the same OA for intern and new grad lol I know hubspot’s was also the same

[tawdry skiff]

!coinflip

[marble bronze]

Out of context this sounds like a mad diss

Like damn bro I know I'm shit but you didn't have to do me like that

[sonic coral]

Lol Hoboken has geese?

[jaunty basalt]

Lots

[steep forge]

damn, good luck with everything meta return interns

may you get 500k tc first year

[grand barn]

It is worth a try

Also did they give u credit for the class u were supposed to take since u took this class instead?

I am always for fighting for u rights against corps and universities are corps

So ur gonna have to pay for the og class????

Bro

So its like standard that they chose ur freshman classes for u

So why is she even asking u the questions of why are u in the wrong class? Mam? U think i hacked the system to add a calc class FOR FUN????

Bro

Bro. Listen to me.

Tmr u go to the registrar office u explain all rhis with printed receipts and emails if u have to

They are gonna give u the run around

Its okay

U insist. U act like u didnt understand

U plainly didnt understand what they are saying if u dont like the answer

Always be polite

They are probably gonna offload u on to someone else

U go to their office u do the same thing

Till u get a satisfactory answer

Something similar happened to me

So i am speaking as someone who went through this shit

I hate predatory corporation behavior like this

Especially those that prey on younger people who dont know any better

Read the uni academic rules or whatever it is called in ur uni

So they dont fuck around with u. Quote the exact rule number if u have to

Bro u think they dont know they fucked up?

They know

They are banking on students being ignorant or scared

Thats why knowing ur rights is the best weapon. I am not telling u to go scream at the registrar lady lmao. But what i do is essentially i am not moving from there till i get a legit answer. And i always keep it polite eventhough they try to antagonize u into acting agitated so they can say ah get them out bla bla

[dusky lance]

Databricks vs Anyscale vs Scale AI vs Roblox?

[uncut umbra]

bruh, save some offers for the rest of us

[nocturne oriole]

@lilac grotto

[grand barn]

One time i was at the registrar office asking this lady essentially for an answer on my case and she was blatantly saying things that contradict what is in the rule book. And she kept saying do u understand? Can u go now? And i am like no lady i do not understand this is contradictory. And she is like hey are u stupid? Do u not understand english??? Then she kept screaming there are other people who need to use the registrar office. I look behind me the room is literally empty. There is literally no one in the line behind me

Anyways she gives up bring another person and thats when i fkn get a legit answer

I legit swear if i had sighed in her face she would screamed ur abusing the school staff

Its probably gonna be a multiple day thing. Just dont give up. Stay on it.

And good luck

[split plaza]

Anyscale has a lot of upside potential tbh

[old smelt]

whats the anyscale offer?

[wheat seal]

I think Databricks or Scale AI

i mean databricks or scale ai will pay more in the long run

but actually scale ai

is basically paper money

and databricks is closer to ipo but they wont ipo now lol

so honestly probably roblox

i think roblox is best

[crude saffron]

Roblox is a better product than scale

[wheat seal]

yea i mean, the other 3 are probably boring products compared to roblox

im suprised roblox is doing so well now

ppl are that addicted to roblox?

they havent really been hit hard the past 6 mths

[pallid vine]

tyty

[foggy perch]

easy to get kids addicted ig

[calm shale]

recession doesnt affect kids i guess

[nova reef]

can confirm wlb at roblox is rly dope

[wheat seal]

u work there now?

[nova reef]

no I was an intern there but got return offer

[wheat seal]

so the interview is harder than actual job?

[fresh lagoon]

i dont think its a surprise roblox has the best wlb of those just depends on wat ur looking for imo

[nova reef]

the intern VO was a joke lol

[wheat seal]

vo is a project?

[nova reef]

wdym

[wheat seal]

whats a vo?

[nova reef]

by VO I meant virtual onsite

[wheat seal]

oh lol

[wheat seal]

it was easy?

[nova reef]

for me and most ppl Ive talked to, it was easy-medium, towards the easy end

[wheat seal]

oh interesting

[nova reef]

and for the actual job, it rly depends on how hard you wanna try, if you don't wanna try and just coast, sure you can do that

but if you really wanna go for the impact/growth/promotion, you could do that too

[lilac grotto]

lol does the bush give extra leniency to be grounded if ur shine is late

[wheat seal]

u think roblox would get acquired?

[nocturne oriole]

yes more frames of jump squat IIRC

cuz that's the hard part ofc, the 2 frame jump squat

i think?

[lilac grotto]

it would be same number of jane street frames i think

fox always has 3 js frames unless he eats a mushroom

[nocturne oriole]

oh my b yeah

[nova reef]

100% not

[nocturne oriole]

more time after the jump gets inputted

[lilac grotto]

but if ur late by a frame u get airborne and then ur next jump would be a midair jump

[nocturne oriole]

cuz the bush travels up with you

[lilac grotto]

ye

[fringe egret]

does Roblox sponsor?

[wheat seal]

for 50 billion?

[nova reef]

I think the company itself knows it has the potential

so money is not the dealbreaker here

[wheat seal]

microsoft bought blizzard for 70 billion

oh ok

[nova reef]

yea but do you see any potential in blizzard

[wheat seal]

blizzard has bad leadership tho

[nova reef]

OW2? kek

[wheat seal]

nah lol

[nova reef]

exactly

[wheat seal]

i mean ow2 is fun

just leadership sucks

ow2 and new cod is pretty good

[cobalt siren]

why cant i be good at genji

[wheat seal]

the servers blizzard has is absolutely garbage tho

and leadership

[cobalt siren]

id give up all my offers to be good at genji

[wheat seal]

ive never seen a game crash as much as warzone

[nova reef]

they do for OPT/H1-B

[wheat seal]

widow is where its at tho

[nova reef]

not sure about J-1 tho

[cobalt siren]

ah that too

[wheat seal]

roblox hires industry 1 yr experience?

[nova reef]

very very few

I think they only hire new grad and senior+

occasionally a few 1yr/2yr roles here and there

[foggy perch]

would they reject 1 yoe applying for new grad tho

[wheat seal]

yea i havent seen any industry

gpa doesnt matter

[cobalt siren]

unless grad school but yeah

[wheat seal]

lc matters more

id take a 2.0 and be cracked at leetcode anyday

ur graduating in 2023 winter?

well in 2024 economy will be much better tbh

i cant see it lasting longer

[hexed canopy]

how is mentorship in Roblox? Did NG get to match to the team they are interested in?

[nova reef]

I have no idea about new grad team matching, but mentorship is very good imo, at least for me everyone I've met with there was really helpful

[hexed canopy]

Thank! Which org were you in?

[teal jackal]

I've pretty much accepted that 150k tc is a stretch goal as a new grad, not a very likely outcome for me

[nova reef]

growth

[teal jackal]

I'm still in the acceptance phase of the 5 stages of grief, I'm accepting the reality that making 150k as a new grad isn't likely for me

But that doesn't mean I'm happy about it

Yeah, I'm by no means happy that it's harder to find a job now, but I'm trying to come to terms with it

No

But I'm actively in interview loops atm

2 companies pays in my stretch goal range, idk about the other one, c1 is just below my stretch goal range but I'll be okay there

Assuming I have the privilege of getting in

I'm probably gonna do the work 9 months strategy, and then apply for industry hire SE1 jobs

If my ideal plans don't pan out

[teal jackal]

The likely scenario

I prefer not to mention

But both companies are open and are on coderquad

Their portals are not closed

The coderquad new grad link repo

[west egret]

@smoky lodge ‘s recruiter said everything on coderquad is done.

[smoky lodge]

Yep

[teal jackal]

Recruiter said that the pizza is done

[cobalt siren]

Has anyone heard of offer being rescinded just because asking for a deadline extension?

[dusky plover]

@cedar nebula i was gonna ask u the exact same thing

lol

[smoky lodge]

I think I’m probably just gonna take my c1 offer and call it a session

[dusky plover]

its a sweatshop from what ihear from someone that works there

[west egret]

C1 is a great place to start and this season sucks

[dusky plover]

the only good thing they have is good tc

[teal jackal]

C1 does not care about reneging, so if u accept c1 and very late season another company reaches out, there's no point in not trying another company

[west egret]

If you have an offer, you’re already in a good spot

[smoky lodge]

Exactly

But the thing is right

[dusky plover]

if u dont mind being worked a bit extra its fine to stay at for a year or two yea and than dip once the market recovers

they have great resume clout

[smoky lodge]

The c1 offer I got is over 150k for the first year and my goal going into college was just to make 6 figures

[teal jackal]

What does rippling even do?

[dusky plover]

ya u should just take amazon tbh

[west egret]

NYC?

[smoky lodge]

McLean

[west egret]

Geeze that’s a lot

[dusky plover]

bro

[teal jackal]

My mind was poisoned by Amazon tbh, Amazon made me cocky and made me think I was entitled to 180k tc from every company on earth

[west egret]

Was there extra bonus from being a return intern?

[dusky plover]

who even uses rippling

interns dont even know if theyre getting RO's till like end of this year or smth

[teal jackal]

Yeah I interned there and was cucked out of offer

[west egret]

From what I heard, c1 in nyc was about 136k or something like that

[tawdry skiff]

what do you mean cucked out of offer

[dusky plover]

@cedar nebula what other offers u got

[tawdry skiff]

you deliver project and they didn't give offer?

[smoky lodge]

127k base, 15k (I’ve seen 12k but I think the extra 3k is for return), 6.6k performance, 1500 relocation which comes out to 150,100 for McLean first year and 133k recurring (which is what you’ll see on levels)

[dusky plover]

god i wish amazon didnt give me a fucked question for the first 1x60 cuz i finished the other question in like 15 minutes

[teal jackal]

Yeah p much, they said my other LPs were weak

[autumn ridge]

How bad was it 1-10

[dusky plover]

for me i just went too off track cuz the interviewer didnt clarify anything
it was a design question

it was like a 6/10 in diffuculty

[smoky lodge]

I see myself having a dynamic career and job hopping a lot and my career goal was just 6 figures so I’m chilling

[teal jackal]

Tbh I'm not gonna pressure myself to reach my goal immediately

[dusky plover]

actually a fuckign hard ass interview

swe

[teal jackal]

Maybe in the span of the next 3 years I'll have good tc

[autumn ridge]

Damn OOD fucks me up every time.

[vast rock]

yall Costar Group vs Lucid Software (the one that owns Lucid Chart, scale and spark)

[smoky lodge]

That’s my mindset

[dusky plover]

yea wish i just got normal lc

[smoky lodge]

I’m 99% sure just based on how the few interviews I did this year went

That if this were a good economy year

I would definitely have gotten something potentially better

[teal jackal]

Thanks jpow

[smoky lodge]

So I’m not concerned at all for getting the second or third job in a better economy lol

And I was gonna career hop a lot anyway

[west egret]

You have plenty of time

[smoky lodge]

Even at faangs no one usually stays past 2 years

[west egret]

majority of CS majors aren't making 100k

much less 150k

[teal jackal]

You know what let's hope the world economy picks up the pace, I hope we all can hop STRAIGHT to SE2 with 300k tc

When the time comes we're headed straight to SE2

SE2 with 250k tc by 2026 or bust

[smoky lodge]

No you can just search how long new engineers stay at Facebook for example and it’s like 1.6 years

[teal jackal]

God I'll be 25 years old then 💀

[vast rock]

neither Lucid Software nor Costar is on there

[west egret]

And tbh eventually the money doesn't make you that much happier

[whole berry]

by 2025 homie

gotta go FAST

[tawdry skiff]

2025?

you mean 2024

[whole berry]

YOU MEAN RN?????????????????

[smoky lodge]

Which makes sense because typically you only get like a 6-7% tc bump from a promotion but a 20-30% bump from switching companies

[smoky lodge]

So like who in their right mind wouldn’t switch out after 2 years lol

[tawdry skiff]

SWE3 by 2026

[teal jackal]

I'll probably live frugally as a new grad to compensate for my low tc

[west egret]

I'm down to chill at first company for 2 years

[tawdry skiff]

it's time

ofc you chill at first company for 2 years

get that bonus if it's split into two years

then leave

[smoky lodge]

Yeah, also I lowkey feel like I’d have more time to grind LC than I do in school

Like if my internships are any indication lol

[tawdry skiff]

just like churning credit card sign on bonuses

you do the same with jobs

[west egret]

all just for some LC

Up to a certain point it will

But eventually you'd rather have the free time and WLB to enjoy the $

[tawdry skiff]

tres commas or bust

!choose tres commas, bust

[smoky lodge]

This is a good question and I don’t know lol

Ask the full timer chat this is their thing

[west egret]

Yeah that first 100 gives you a lot of options to travel, save for retirement, etc

[tawdry skiff]

just apply for SDE2 positions

[nocturne oriole]

Some entry level roles have even higher pay bands for external hire with even 6mo exp

[west egret]

Diminishing returns after that first 100 yeah

[smoky lodge]

Anything less than 50 million annual TC is chump change!!!!

Change your mindset!

[tawdry skiff]

ideally I want a SDE1 job for 300k

[nocturne oriole]

So yes if ur first job sucks u can still get L3 elsewhere for better pay than an actual new grad

[teal jackal]

True, but I want a cool car

[tawdry skiff]

thank you kirb

[frozen tapir]

has anyone negotiated with bloomberg ab salary?

[nocturne oriole]

No

[tawdry skiff]

is that why you make 500k TC as L4

[teal jackal]

Wait why am I saying "tc matters" if I want a cool car

[nocturne oriole]

No again

[nocturne oriole]

Yes

[teal jackal]

Not like I'm gonna afford a BMW m240i in NYC on 180k tc

[smoky lodge]

Bro I want a big ass mansion a dozen fast cars and hella women just walking around at all time

[tawdry skiff]

heyo fuck you kirb

[smoky lodge]

I need 50 million Tc!!!

[teal jackal]

I can afford it on 130k tc staying in my hometown

[tawdry skiff]

stop stomping on my dreams

[west egret]

80-90% of my happiness would be fulfilled from just being able to eat out 2x/week, travel 2x/year and having decent savings.

[nocturne oriole]

Your life style unfortunately scales up. You can invest like 45k or more a year in just retirement funds using stuff like mega backdoor I think. You will chase $ once u taste it

[tawdry skiff]

then you make a business

[compact obsidian]

that's jsut job hopping tho lol

[autumn ridge]

Eh with taxes and high COL i think it’s the opposite it’s a lot less than people think in general

[tawdry skiff]

build your own company

[compact obsidian]

just collect signing bonuses

switch jobs every 1-2 years

[teal jackal]

I have autism and am pretty much completely asocial, my interests in life are unironically very static.

[tawdry skiff]

get free ev trucks because of tax incentives

[teal jackal]

I only spend my money on food

[tawdry skiff]

[nocturne oriole]

Even if company doesnt support it, you can invest it. I do think the tc chase is dumb too btw but like yes there really is a diff between 100k and 200k and 300k

[west egret]

Are you going with Snap now?

[teal jackal]

I remember how badly I wanted a computer and then when I got my gaming laptop I haven't thought about getting new hardware in over a year

[tawdry skiff]

what's the difference

[smoky lodge]

They’ve done studies that show seeing large amounts of money in your account literally affects your Brian similarly to cocaine lol

[vast mica]

I am fucking tired of this recession, my amazon industry hire VO was about to happen today but they cancelled yesterday becoz of freez

[nocturne oriole]

Only thing worth mentioning is retirement.

How soon

[compact obsidian]

ye if u job hop -> you spend time onboarding etc = less effort

[tawdry skiff]

just fuck brian up

[compact obsidian]

downside is u dont become a subject matter expect in anything

u just job hop and get stuck at not-senior forever

[teal jackal]

Outside of HUGE things like a sports car and a beach house , I don't want much more

Nah I play video games every day

My laptop has been worth it

[nocturne oriole]

I am not trying to FIRE but if i can retire at 55 or hell even 50 i think that’s a big deal

[teal jackal]

Im not much of a try new things kind of person

[nocturne oriole]

And all i need is some job hops? Sign me up

[smoky lodge]

I want to buy hookers

[tawdry skiff]

all I want is money

and time

you need time to touch grass

[teal jackal]

One of my passions is racing simulation

[tawdry skiff]

SWE1 for 500k when

[teal jackal]

I want to just get a decent job already so I can focus my energy on practicing motorsports techniques

[tawdry skiff]

unjam it

comeon

[smoky lodge]

Like 40 years realistically

[compact obsidian]

i sent them my 191 msft offer and they countered with a 189 offer

:[

[frozen tapir]

damn

[tawdry skiff]

basically, I need to join a startup that is just about to IPO

[frozen tapir]

thats like nothing

[compact obsidian]

ye esp msft is redmond, bb is nyc

[tawdry skiff]

then become billionaire with stock options

[frozen tapir]

i have an offer similar to bb but it is in austin. do u think that would work

[smoky lodge]

It can’t be that hard to start a successful company lol just do it

[tawdry skiff]

holy you have a 191 msft offer?

[frozen tapir]

austin is like much much cheaper

[compact obsidian]

if you're planning on taking bb it's better than nothing

[compact obsidian]

master's degree so automatic L60

[frozen tapir]

ya, theres no way they rescind offer tho right

[calm shale]

damn i thought bb goes higher

[tawdry skiff]

still

[smoky lodge]

I know someone who left a company with no good severance package and then right after they left it exploded in value

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah. You are too level focused. Be TC focused

[frozen tapir]

has anyone had an offer rescinded bc negotiation

[smoky lodge]

Massive L

[compact obsidian]

technically it's 206 but for some reason the 23k signing bonus is lowered to 9k bc of my start date

[nocturne oriole]

You can still increase TC with job hop before 1 year

[compact obsidian]

which is ???

[nocturne oriole]

Not advocating btw just saying if u dont like first job

[tawdry skiff]

who cares about having better title status

I just want more money

[nocturne oriole]

Eating out 2x a week isnt a lot, very average

Yes actually, good companies pay u sign on to cover lease break

[smoky lodge]

my goal is solely to be the richest person in the grave yard I don’t care at all about my own happiness or the good of the world

[compact obsidian]

ye it's like at least 20-30k more factoring in CoL and taxes n stuff

[west egret]

Depends on what places you go to lol. If you’re spending $50-100 minimum a meal then yeah.

[smoky lodge]

[slate bobcat]

RECESSION is hitting hard

[tawdry skiff]

I eat out everyday

lunch is a bitch

[shrewd ivy]

rip economy next year tho for sure

[compact obsidian]

like team is in nyc but ur remote? or other way around

doesn't seem like a good idea to me if its the latter

[tawdry skiff]

based in nyc but remote

[west egret]

I’m afraid of what coderquad is going to look like in a month

[compact obsidian]

ok thats based if u get nyc levels of pay

[west egret]

Seems like the applications are drying up

[smoky lodge]

What are the odds things open up in spring semester

[nocturne oriole]

Again u are being level focused, just my opinion. YES the job apps say new grad or entry level or junior or associate. It does not matter.

[smoky lodge]

If apply again to Bloomberg in April what are the odds they’ll still have open headcount lol

[lilac siren]

wait I will submit a new pr

[nocturne oriole]

Also too many are brainwashed into thinking mid level is normal at 1.5yoe, that is very few companies

[tawdry skiff]

money is money

[nocturne oriole]

A title is JUST a title

[foggy perch]

I feel like unlikely tbh

[compact obsidian]

april might be a bit early

[foggy perch]

I could be wrong

[smoky lodge]

I’m gonna troll and submit PRs for roles with 7 years of experience

[tawdry skiff]

you rather be SWE2 making 200k or SWE1 making 175k

I like SWE1

[smoky lodge]

6 months is 6 months

[compact obsidian]

but like bb doesn't seem too affected by economy given the number of offers they're giving out

[tawdry skiff]

even though you might make argument for SWE2

[compact obsidian]

so mayeb in like a year

[nocturne oriole]

Like levels do mean something at big N, they have criteria and so they are trusted by industry, but generally speaking everyone knows u get a level bump more easily by hopping too so at end of day we just play this game and do what it takes to increase TC

[tawdry skiff]

I agree, give up your mod status to me

[smoky lodge]

Yeah good prop firms and hedge funds make just as much money in a down market as an up market and Bloomberg is the one giving places access to real time market data

[nocturne oriole]

Dont come to seattle we dont want u

[tawdry skiff]

some companies might downlevel you aswell

[smoky lodge]

Pretty strong model in any environment honesty

[tawdry skiff]

[nocturne oriole]

If it’s msft u will be depressed they are in redmond

Snooze ville

[tawdry skiff]

what about me

[nocturne oriole]

Yes come to seattle we will settle

[tawdry skiff]

yay

[nocturne oriole]

HAHAHAHAHA

[teal jackal]

man this is just depressing

[dusky plover]

come to bay area

[smoky lodge]

can’t get depressed I haven’t felt any thing in 3 years since she left lol

[tawdry skiff]

Kirb is making exception

[nocturne oriole]

that’s depression

[azure zephyr]

so i have an interview tomorrow morning with nextdoor but even if i get the offer i have no plans to join them should i just cancel lol

[tawdry skiff]

8.81 or better

[tawdry skiff]

do you have another offer?

[nocturne oriole]

What a convenient number

[teal jackal]

man this is just depressing
i think im on last chance mode as a new grad

[dusky plover]

if you're content with the offers u have yea just can it

[compact obsidian]

yeah waste of time

not even good for experience imo

[prime palm]

free interview practise

[compact obsidian]

bc next time you interview will probably be for experienced roles

[tawdry skiff]

depending on whether you want to potentially use for nego

if you get it

[prime palm]

that's true

@azure zephyr got offers?

[tawdry skiff]

[smoky lodge]

do you have pressing assignments or anything else important that you’d really want to do or are you burnt out?

[compact obsidian]

got milk?

[prime palm]

no

[smoky lodge]

If none of this I would just do it

[azure zephyr]

only other interview im for sure doing is atlassian but thats only bc i would take their offer if i got it

[azure zephyr]

yea four

[nocturne oriole]

If u get atlassian take it

Hella stable

[smoky lodge]

[azure zephyr]

very burnt out LOL

[tawdry skiff]

stable dn

[teal jackal]

the prayer that i do not think will work out and is unrealistic: companies that opened in august/september will be taking on resumes and inviting new people to interview even in november, december, and january

[dusky plover]

its impossible to get laid off from atlassian

[smoky lodge]

Then I’d chill

[dusky plover]

no 🧢

[tawdry skiff]

yeah, cancel the interview

[smoky lodge]

Is this a challenge?

[dusky plover]

bet?

[azure zephyr]

fuck i feel so bad the nextdoor recruiter wished me happy birthday 😭😭😭

[smoky lodge]

Gimme like 2 decades

[prime palm]

YO?!

[tawdry skiff]

sometimesitdobelikethat

[smoky lodge]

At some point I will work there with the intention of getting fired just to prove you wrong

[tawdry skiff]

!boldfancy sometimesitdobelikethat

[calm shale]

take it

just for practice

[foggy perch]

lmaooo did you get an offer you're choosing over nextdoor

oh wait you're atlassian right

[smoky lodge]

No don’t do this this is beta behavior

Say fuck off to your interviewer over the phone

[calm shale]

dude my recruiter said she fought really hard for my negotiation, i accepted it but plan on regeging anyways

feel lowkey bad too lol

[nocturne oriole]

Bro manifesting the rejection energy he couldnt in his dating life

Cuz nobody ever liked him

[azure zephyr]

omg how was the phone interview?

[tawdry skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-anya-cry-anya-crying-tears-cry-gif-25745050

[azure zephyr]

expedia rn

[smoky lodge]

anime is disgusting

[azure zephyr]

but if i get atlassian offer im taking that, just got moved to the next round today

[foggy perch]

fair

atlassian based if you get and choose it

did you ever interview with bb

or nah

[azure zephyr]

atlassian has been such a battle for me they rejected me, i cold messaged a recruiter on linkedin, got unrejected, got the oa, and today i found out i got phone

[smoky lodge]

I got ghosted by expedia after the oa/hackerrank

[foggy perch]

cold messaging a recruiter got you unrejected?

wack

[calm shale]

im trynna not see companies as friends but enemies lol

so i gotta train

[azure zephyr]

dude bloomberg is so annoying LMAO my scheduling portal was broken, they took forever to fix it now the earliest interview slot is mid nov and the recruiter didn't respond when i asked to move it up bc offer deadlines

[compact obsidian]

bb recruiting is indeed hella slow

[uncut umbra]

any advice for palantir karat? that's the 1 hour technical coding challenge right

[compact obsidian]

took me like 6 weeks to go from verbal to offical offer

[azure zephyr]

i cold messaged her before i got rejected, she saw my message/resume after the fact and unarchived my application

[nocturne oriole]

This is correct yeah a valid concern

[compact obsidian]

emailed the recruiter 2/week for 6 weeks straight

[foggy perch]

lmaoo rip

[nocturne oriole]

Like if ur initial concern was “damn my first job matters cuz otherwise i might wait 4 yrs to a promo” because of that situation u said then yes

So basically it comes down to, if ur first job sucks leave asap

[azure zephyr]

btw no way you just said fair 😭😭😭😭 im sorry im not a jane street god 😭

[compact obsidian]

if the compensation and role is worth burning bridges i'd say do it

[foggy perch]

o I was just saying fair you'd cancel nextdoor for expedia

lmao

[teal jackal]

i think its time to hang up the hat and give up on getting into the companies that some of u get into as a new grad
im still going to practice for my remaining interviews, if i fail ill count it as practice for my highly anticipated job hop

[smoky lodge]

It’s only October, if you’re super burnt out I’d take a few weeks off but dont stop completely

[foggy perch]

same

[compact obsidian]

fair

[foggy perch]

me and companies are just mutual parasites

[compact obsidian]

also dang referrals matter?

[foggy perch]

yes

[compact obsidian]

referrals have never done anything for me both giving and recieving

[smoky lodge]

I want to siphon off as many resources from companies as I can and then fuck off

[azure zephyr]

ohhh nvm i thought you were the person who got hella nyc offers rn

[compact obsidian]

maybe thats bc i only work for big tech tho

[foggy perch]

the disguise is working

[azure zephyr]

ngl i thought my phone was glitched or something

damn

[foggy perch]

there's at least 3 of us now

[azure zephyr]

pin

[foggy perch]

obviously by changing our name, we'll steal some of their offer luck

pin

not even a debate

[smoky lodge]

Pinterest by a pretty big margin lol

[compact obsidian]

not if i have anything to say about it

[smoky lodge]

[teal jackal]

a

[foggy perch]

yes

pin pays more

and provides more career growth

pin rn is a much smaller and faster growing company than adobe I believe

[nocturne oriole]

Pin is faang tier

[compact obsidian]

imo 2 years is ideal

[foggy perch]

honestly Pin might be slightly above faang tier

[compact obsidian]

lots of companies give signing bonuses over 2 years

[foggy perch]

pin initial offer is 240k+

[compact obsidian]

• it's enough time for maybe a promo

[nocturne oriole]

I put it with G but yeah fair

[serene fable]

Just got a portal update from Amazon, how is San Diego?

[nocturne oriole]

Interview was hard when i did it, about G level

[foggy perch]

fair I think >= G depending on what you value, since ik my interviewers chose Pin over Google, Meta, and some other pre-IPO companies

[compact obsidian]

ye but u get benefits between 1 and 3 years

[nocturne oriole]

2 yrs is actually somewhat of a sweet spot dunga. Even 2 years at average company can SOMETIMES get L4 at faang

[compact obsidian]

good balance of exp and comp

[nocturne oriole]

It takes work tho

[foggy perch]

I think Pin offers you more impact than G

[smoky lodge]

I maybe rate faangs too highly but I’d still some of them over places that compensate like 50-100k more lol

[foggy perch]

since Pin is a lot smaller

I feel like G would be > 2 years

based off what people say

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah but u would need to start there

[foggy perch]

really?

huh

for me pin interview wasn't that bad

but idk if I've passed yet

since I had like 2 hiccups in my interviews

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah to me pin and G was about same

G was harder

[foggy perch]

wack

oh

[nocturne oriole]

Not much

[foggy perch]

if only G was still hiring

G intern interviews were ezpz

never got project matched tho

I wish I knew pin's hiring process

[compact obsidian]

pin doesn't seem all that great to me work-wise tho

[foggy perch]

since I felt like my results were like like Lean, Lean, and Strong

if I had to guess

[compact obsidian]

how many pinterest research papers do u know

[rigid quail]

all you need to know is they ask LC hards

[foggy perch]

idc about research tbh

[compact obsidian]

or products besides pinterest

[foggy perch]

woops wrong person

[rigid quail]

all good

[foggy perch]

true main product of pinterest

[compact obsidian]

but like research is somewhat indiciatve of what problems the company is solving

[foggy perch]

I've heard pinterest ml team is interesting

[nocturne oriole]

It pays great and my friend there says if u WANT quick promo at pin u can get it

[compact obsidian]

pinterest isnt really solving anything groundbreaking

[smoky lodge]

I’m pretty sure I would take faangs over prop firms in most cases but I probably overrate them

[rigid quail]

lots of ad optimization

[nocturne oriole]

Their engineers do solve hard problems, even at faang not all problems are hard

[compact obsidian]

yeah maybe ML

[nocturne oriole]

Internal tooling is not hard just a pain sometimes

[compact obsidian]

true

[foggy perch]

meh I feel like most companies aren't solving anything groundbreaking on an individual level

[compact obsidian]

all roads lead to frontend at msft

[foggy perch]

odds are that you're working on a tiny puzzle piece

[tawdry skiff]

who cares about hard problems, just need enough to know if company is going to be afloat while you're there

[foggy perch]

of a project you'll never see to completion

[tawdry skiff]

just get the bag and go

[foggy perch]

true

[compact obsidian]

lol fair

[rigid quail]

bruh fr you want hard problems go to academia

[compact obsidian]

esp at the junior level

[tawdry skiff]

I would

[compact obsidian]

nah se2 is < 2 years

[tawdry skiff]

honestly, I had way too much fun with research

[smoky lodge]

Get a masters degree then try to do some AI shit at like Microsoft labs

If that’s your goal

[tawdry skiff]

I will probably go back after I have a large bag

[compact obsidian]

at msft if u start at L60 it's more like slightly more than 1 year

maybe < 1 year if ur good

[foggy perch]

you'll be old by then tho

just retire

smh

[rigid quail]

my goal is to put in 8 hours a day, get a paycheque and live my life

[tawdry skiff]

yes

but I get phd

[foggy perch]

meh

if you have enough money to do that

[rigid quail]

academia is not about the money some people on this server just won’t understand that concept

[foggy perch]

just chill

[tawdry skiff]

then become associate professor, "work" partime at company

and partime at school

[foggy perch]

so are ya planning on working till death

[tawdry skiff]

be a professor, but get paid at big n

[smoky lodge]

not research per se but masters are useful if you want to do specialized work

[smoky lodge]

most people i've met that work in ML at a high level usually have masters

[foggy perch]

pinterest ye

not g

I interviewed final like last week

so I'm waiting on results

[compact obsidian]

my tiktok interview today asked some p specialized qs about distributed systems that i would not have known w/ just my bachelors

[dusky plover]

i have pinterest onsite next week bruh

LC hard

[foggy perch]

have fun

I got all mediums for pin

[nocturne oriole]

Holy shit

👑

Bro know ur graphs

[foggy perch]

idk if I passed though

[dusky plover]

i know my graphs

[nocturne oriole]

Know bisect()

[dusky plover]

i just cant do dp for shit

[foggy perch]

since i had a 1 small hiccup on two of my problems

[rain patio]

Anyone interviewed at factset?

[tawdry skiff]

just be a chad

[smoky lodge]

the point is that it's generally true that more education = more interesting work with respect to stem degrees and it's no different for CS

[nocturne oriole]

@dusky plover

[compact obsidian]

i was just thinking about long term sustainability but the point said earlier about sustainability not mattering if u job hop/junior was good

[foggy perch]

Since I aced one interview, and got answer w/ tiny nudge in a direction on two interviews

[thorn walrus]

wdym small hiccup

[compact obsidian]

oop wrong person

[dusky plover]

did u get DP

[tawdry skiff]

next question instead of dp

[dusky plover]

sup

[nocturne oriole]

U missed it

[foggy perch]

like one of my questions the hiccup I had was like a small if statement for an edgecase I was missing

[dusky plover]

missed what

?????

[nocturne oriole]

Know the hard level tree problems on neetcode io

[thorn walrus]

wait does the interviewer care about this stuff??

[dusky plover]

yo can u mfs change ur name back from hachiyuki theres like 10 of u now

[thorn walrus]

i thought it was just like if you solved the question

[foggy perch]

other mistake was that I got an O(nm) space and time answer when they preferred an O(n^2m) space, and O(nm) time but better

[dusky plover]

bro send this in our
dms 😳

so i can pin it

u kno what group im referring to

[foggy perch]

issue was me forgetting to do an if statement for a case was causing one of test cases to fail

[thorn walrus]

i think ur like overanalyzing

by your standard i did way worse than you

[foggy perch]

no like I literally got the answer in O(nm) space + time

but interviewer then said hm

how can we do this a different way

so they gave me a hint

[dusky plover]

@foggy perch can i dm?

[foggy perch]

then I got different way

idk

[smoky lodge]

im pretty sure a CS PhD from a T10-20 school is gonna be doing more interesting work than me lol

[foggy perch]

what're ya trying to ask

since I can't go into much detail

due to NDA on interview

[dusky plover]

oh

[foggy perch]

I can vaguely say the topics

[dusky plover]

just whether it was DP

[foggy perch]

for me

[dusky plover]

or graphs

[foggy perch]

it was Graphs

[smoky lodge]

there's different types of masters

[foggy perch]

and Tries

well

[dusky plover]

and how much prepped beforehand

[lilac siren]

wtf why do you all rename HachiYuki?

[foggy perch]

Trie is a maybe

[dusky plover]

u*

[compact obsidian]

hehehaha

[foggy perch]

I didn't get DP, but ik other people have

[dusky plover]

ok

[thorn walrus]

@lament summit renamed himself to hachiyuki

and got offer from pinterest

[lilac siren]

alright

[foggy perch]

but yeah tbh I might be overanalyzing

since I got optimal answer w/ hint for 2

and aced 3rd

so i'll c

[dusky plover]

you fuckers better not be capping about this

[lilac siren]

[foggy perch]

another one

[thorn walrus]

dang i probably got rejected from pinterest then if your performance was bad

[nocturne oriole]

Tries are legit he is right

[foggy perch]

are you ready to rejoin the tribe of HachiYuki's @queen valve

[nocturne oriole]

Know the python 1 liner or whatever to make a trie

[smoky lodge]

nah i actually can't believe how few openings there are now

[dusky plover]

ok

[nocturne oriole]

The lambda factory function

[foggy perch]

wtf is that

I just memorized how to make a Trie Class normally

lmao

[thorn walrus]

yoo lets go hachiyuki gang

[smoky lodge]

i've been checking coderquad and linked everyday for like two weeks and theres barely anything

[lament summit]

lmaooo

[nocturne oriole]

It’s some crazy shit in python with defaultdict where u pass in as lambda argument another defaultdict or something

[lament summit]

everyone followed me

[foggy perch]

oh yeah did you ever get roblox

or did they reject

[nocturne oriole]

Lets u make infinite nested dict

Easy to use

[dusky plover]

pog ok

[thorn walrus]

i got rejected

[foggy perch]

that shit's so ugly tho

[foggy perch]

F same

[nocturne oriole]

Better than having to check if key exists imo, but fair

[smoky lodge]

fuck roblox

[thorn walrus]

^

[foggy perch]

oh no I use the defaultdict approach

[thorn walrus]

roblox bad company

[foggy perch]

I just don't use a nested defaultdict

lmao

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah but defaultdict only does that for one level deep

This is all the levels

[foggy perch]

we're talking about Tries right

[dusky plover]

yea we talking about tries

[tawdry skiff]

https://leetcode.com/problems/design-add-and-search-words-data-structure/discuss/59555/python-trie-with-defaultdict-trick

[nocturne oriole]

U can do shit like
map[x][y][z] = a

[tawdry skiff]

like this

[smoky lodge]

i literally closed my browser and withdrew my app right after I opened the first shitty game

[foggy perch]

I just make a Trie class that has two attributes, of self.isWord = False and self.children = defaultdict(Trie)

then some methods for adding and finding a word

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah that’s fine but there times the python trick helps

[foggy perch]

huh

[tawdry skiff]

https://leetcode.com/problems/stream-of-characters/discuss/278250/Python-Trie-Solution/405388/

[smoky lodge]

roblox should take the money they spend on that trash and use it to get pedos off their servers

[foggy perch]

nah pedos probs pay a lot

[tawdry skiff]

didn't know about the lambda trick

[foggy perch]

think of the money

[tawdry skiff]

that's some clean ass shit

[nocturne oriole]

Look at Banned’s links

[smoky lodge]

how i imagine roblox's management team (unironically)

[foggy perch]

but also lmao I feel so called out in interviews when it's a young interviewer sometimes

since they see my approach to solving a problem

and they're like huh

so you like leetcode?

since it's all about like pattern matching problems

[ancient pagoda]

Bruhh just got a Google foobar challenge

Do they still hire from foobar challenges

[foggy perch]

i don't think so?

[tawdry skiff]

L59 -> L60?

or L60 -> L61

[fickle bridge]

Anyone knows what's up with RBI?

They have literally all candidates stuck in the pipeline right now

I had my final a month ago and they were supposed to schedule a "leadership interview" following it 😕

[whole berry]

can i apply for that new grad soft eng role by VISA

but its in the UK

im down bad

ill go there if i have to

[devout plume]

job postings that have 2+ yoe in the qualifications

if I apply to these i won't be overlooked only bc of me not having graduated right

or are we really limited to new grad postings

[foggy perch]

i mean you'd probably be overlooked for not having 2+ yoe

[ivory stratus]

I would say only apply to new grad/SWE 1 positions

You can’t get past not having 2+ yoe

[rapid tree]

Did anyone do coding interviews with DoorDash?

Needed some information

[serene fable]

Got an Amazon portal update, how is San Diego?

[keen grove]

Same 🤔

[jolly raptor]

@serene fable did u get location?

[serene fable]

Yeah, that's why I was asking about San Diego

[jolly raptor]

Ohh i thought every1 gets default loaction, and later they assign

Cool!

[serene fable]

It still might be, idk

But I'm pretty sure the default location was Seattle, I got a message that said I was moved to another job, and the job description said San Diego

[zenith moss]

what is the preferred location in your application?

[serene fable]

I put New York as my preferred location

Got set to Seattle initially and got moved today to San Diego

[wheat seal]

thats a good thing tbh

[main sky]

What’s Amazon doing

[echo finch]

nm just chillin

[oak yew]

did anyone do roblox final round

I got like

ridiculously easy questions

[foggy perch]

i think behavioral is roblox's killer

[pure mauve]

What does it mean if your recruiter ghosts ur follow up after your final after a week

[oak yew]

for me it was pretty standard

[oak yew]

dude I got like

matching socks in a drawer

and also

weighted dictionary return

[frank hawk]

yea its just standard behavioral, talk about projects etc

[kind orbit]

ahhh gotcha

wb c1?

[keen grove]

C1 doesn't nego

[formal glen]

That’s the bad part about c1

[compact obsidian]

ok but for roblox DB how many companies pay more than them?

and from those companies, which ones would you rather have roblox/db over them

[night magnet]

like very few

here's the report from 2021, not sure how accurate it is

[compact obsidian]

yeah thats p inaccurate

[night magnet]

obviously $HOOD is gone

[compact obsidian]

only ones i know for certain are the big quant companies

[night magnet]

don't see any paper money companies like rippling/brex/ benchling on here

[compact obsidian]

u can probably get google over db/roblox if u neg hard

maybe like stripe and snowflake

[dusky plover]

box isnt that high

their ng tc is like 165k