#2023_grads

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west egret
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Yeah there’s no way to negotiate if your other offer is less $

formal fable
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It does. And you'll see that hurt when they whine/cry about it on these forums

uncut umbra
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yep yep

cold matrix
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initial TC is around 180-190K but you can negotiate to get a nice signing bonus and/or increase annual bonus. base TC is non negotiatable tho

formal fable
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Just, keep tempered expectations and you won't feel bad about your offer

autumn ridge
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I mean't it more as in comparing to other offers with signing bonuses or stock grants.

uncut umbra
formal fable
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To be clear, I'm not considering signing bonus as part of TC.

ivory stratus
formal fable
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We all did. No one's special here for trying that. There might be random occurrence which lead to like 10k extra, but without competition, you ain't reaching the likes of 250k

cold matrix
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yes first year

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my 1st year TC is 235K, recurring is 185K

autumn ridge
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Depending on structure but then you are continually vesting as long as you are employed. If you work 1 year x months and leave BB you never get a full bonus

formal fable
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I think they are. 150k base, rest is performance bonus

formal fable
floral plank
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what is recurring without negotiation?

cold matrix
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yea, its the only way to negotiate

autumn ridge
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also the bonus is guranteed to 80% of the value

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not for me LOL did I get scammed?

floral plank
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what is first year tc without negotiation

cold matrix
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depending on your interview performance, ive seen people get either 17k, 23k, or 30k

autumn ridge
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oh I didn't catch that I thought it was always guranteed to 80%

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Damn I just made the cut lol

formal fable
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Some have confirmed offers closer to 190 recurring. Given that peoply focusing all too much on 250k offers, I pointed out the most common figure I've heard of

autumn ridge
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Nah I checked lol its 17.5

tawdry skiff
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Ehh, offer is offer

autumn ridge
tawdry skiff
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What was your numbers for MSFT?

autumn ridge
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Did BB negotiate with MSFT?

bronze nymph
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what's the break down of the recurring?

west egret
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If you made it, you made it

autumn ridge
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you're 🧠 is too big

formal fable
cold matrix
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dm

west egret
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I don’t think any company would ever bother negotiating if you don’t have another offer lol

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Because that means they’re already your best offer

autumn ridge
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want to trade?

west egret
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What if his offer is contingent on coding in assembly?

autumn ridge
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Is it true BB gives you 72 hours to decide once they send back negotiated offer?

bronze nymph
formal fable
cobalt siren
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@cold matrix did you have competing offers in order to negotiate

bronze nymph
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yea no clue how the bonus works, but that seems like a good offer, they wouldn't budge on recurring bonus for me even w/ competing

autumn ridge
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I don't have it yet I still have to pass the onsite lol

autumn ridge
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3 tech rounds so not likely I pass < 5%

formal fable
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What's PINS?

fluid quest
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let ur palantir recruiter know, so they get back to u asap after

autumn ridge
fluid quest
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nice!

formal fable
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Mine is not BB new grad. So my numbers aren't relevant. My friends, got NG offers. They mentioned 155k base, something like 25k performance bonus and rest sign on. We all tried to negotiate and one guy had a verbal offer from a crypto startup

autumn ridge
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I mean it makes logical sense it's based off interview performance. What else would determine different rates

formal fable
cold matrix
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just people on the server, levels.fyi, reddit, etc

formal fable
# lament summit >300?

I wish. I couldn't get close to that without a competing offer. So now I've emailed all my other recruiters to move up the interviews

autumn ridge
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I mean by that logic how can you pass or fail candidates? There has to be a way to quantify peoples performance

formal fable
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They all have objective scoring metrics that get sent over to a hiring committee. Pretty much a voting process from thereon. A strong hire with tons of positive votes gets better offers, while lukewarm feedback leads to basic offers. Everyone else is rejected

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It's a fairly typical process followed by all major software companies

cold matrix
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i was specifically told that based on interview performance + resume determined the annual bonus salary

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from my recruiter

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during negotiation, they seem to cap annual bonus at 30K

ancient holly
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is interview performance referring to em+vo?

cold matrix
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nah the whole process

ancient holly
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or em+vo+phone+hr?

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got u

knotty talon
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absolutely bodied pinterest final fellas

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if they dont give m an offer imma throw hands

fallen fox
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anyone get amazon oa recently?

formal fable
knotty talon
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SWE

lament summit
formal fable
knotty talon
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3x1hr interviews

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all technicals

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essentially phone technical x3

lament summit
lament summit
devout quest
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ayyy

rain patio
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Not enough?

lament summit
rain patio
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So curious what his tcs are

chilly burrow
rain patio
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💀

ripe marsh
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I got amazon woo the Application Submitted legend was true

chilly burrow
orchid aspen
vernal idol
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anyone taken old mission 1st rd technical?

ripe marsh
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At least it was true for me and a lot of other people

orchid aspen
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sheeesh

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when did u apply btw

knotty talon
ripe marsh
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I applied like late august I think

orchid aspen
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damn yeah i heard its frozen rn for newgrad no?

last summit
orchid aspen
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i applied maybe too late i think ngl

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i applied a week ago and no OA for now

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even tho got referred

distant rampart
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my friends got amazon new grad offers last march.. this year is not normal 😢

ivory stratus
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Companies will also open up more during spring semester

dusky plover
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nows the time to bag an offer and hunker down for the wave

fluid bloom
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How do I ask my recruiter about the eta on my offer letter

dusky plover
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yea im not tryna be rude

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but it is gonna be like that

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and we gotta prep

whole berry
autumn ridge
# rain patio You already have 3 offers?

I have BB, ATT and Wells Fargo so i just want something to negotiate with BB or something else good that’s not in NYC. I need to change my name it started as meme and then it was exciting when i updated it to my first offer but now it just feels lame

ivory stratus
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if i dont then oh well i guess ill just drive for uber and teach scuba until job market gets better lol

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or go back to school for masters

whole berry
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pain

stark girder
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I think bb max annual bonus is 30 (35 maybe?) For ng
Competing offers only push signing bonus

stark girder
azure zephyr
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welp guys

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would yall pick expedia or general motors? more context: my family has a house close to where GM is and they'll let me stay there for free, i also negotiated up to 120 TC for GM and its in a MCOL (phoenix area)

floral plank
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i did go for expedia

azure zephyr
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idk if it makes more sense to put in a year or two at GM while i save and then make the hop to a bigger tech company or just start out with expedia

ivory stratus
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i would go with expedia tbh

autumn ridge
late kestrel
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when you say "they have a house" do you mean they live there orrrrrr

azure zephyr
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they dont live there

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its a rental property

azure zephyr
late kestrel
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hmm ok thats better, makes that choice a lil harder but id still go with expedia. it has much better resume value

ivory stratus
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i guess its personal pref for you tbh

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like

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saving money on rent is dope but i feel like expedia > gm

azure zephyr
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yeah im thinking ill go expedia still!

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i still have to wrap up nextdoor & bloomberg but i dont want to move to nyc so idk i might just drop bloomberg tbh

autumn ridge
thorn walrus
azure zephyr
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im going to think about it some more but looks like im going to pick expedia. thanks to everyone this season for all their support and good luck 🤩🤩

fossil jewel
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where would expedia be?

azure zephyr
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seattle!

ivory stratus
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That Expedia campus is NICE

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Also it seems like they have good culture and wlb

nocturne oriole
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Very upset with new grad class of 2023 all they do is grind leetcode mindlessly and farm offers with their top school names

outer radish
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FUCK 2023

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SRSLY LIKE

jaunty basalt
jaunty basalt
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Like GM is rotational program

chilly burrow
tawdry skiff
azure zephyr
jaunty basalt
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That’s sus af

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Yeah dip

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I didn’t take the GM offer

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But for completely different reasons

azure zephyr
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yeah she said its 120 people on the team divided into 9-11 person projects lmao idk

jaunty basalt
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My classmate also did not take GM

tawdry skiff
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what is expedia offer compared to GM?
and have you been in seattle before?

shrewd ocean
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how long after vo1 did u hear about vo2

jaunty basalt
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Expedia offer is better

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Comp wise

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For sure

azure zephyr
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well

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idk about that tbh

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i negotiated GM hardcore

fossil jewel
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rng would have free housing for gm

azure zephyr
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got up to a 120 TC

jaunty basalt
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Wait that’s dope

azure zephyr
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expedia is 140 TC in a higher cost of living, without free housing

jaunty basalt
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I thought u couldn’t negotiate with GM

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Very pog

azure zephyr
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me too but i just tried anyways

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in my interview the interviewer told me that theres a good chance they'll try hard to get me at GM

tawdry skiff
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let's see, we say that you spend 2k a month for housing in seattle for studio/1br

so expedia is 140-24=> 116k to be in seattle

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most likely less personal income tax since seattle has none, but that's probably like 5k diff?

dense seal
austere grove
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!!!!

tawdry skiff
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so like 140-119 => 121k to be in seattle

azure zephyr
shrewd ocean
tawdry skiff
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honestly, it's probably better even money wise to be in seattle

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it's just, do you want to be in seattle

dense seal
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do you get any cool perks w/ expedia?

azure zephyr
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from what i heard about seattle i like it yeah

tawdry skiff
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alot of people don't vibe with seattle

azure zephyr
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very dope campus

tawdry skiff
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outside of the summer

azure zephyr
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plus less of an applicant pool

nocturne oriole
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I need to read this

fossil jewel
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not sure if the benefits on levels are accurate but it looks pretty cool

azure zephyr
nocturne oriole
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Also there is nothing in source contextualizing tech employee attrition rates if anyone wondering

fossil jewel
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20% off for travel pog

azure zephyr
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yupp

shrewd ocean
austere grove
tawdry skiff
austere grove
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expedia should give u unlimited free travel

nocturne oriole
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Yeah it says every worker at amazon is in a tier. Top is like execs

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Bottom is @tawdry skiff

azure zephyr
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i read an article about it a few days ago

shrewd ocean
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relax

azure zephyr
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or at least theyre trying to become one

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but obv expedia is more tech

chilly burrow
azure zephyr
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what even is snapchat +

fossil jewel
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i havent logged into snapchat for over a year

nocturne oriole
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It auto applies filter that makes u beautiful

azure zephyr
floral plank
fossil jewel
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so many ads

floral plank
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it was fun while it lasted

azure zephyr
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i also hate how so many social media companies are trying to become like tiktok

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and bereal

austere grove
azure zephyr
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is this recruiting season already winding down? it seems pretty early

austere grove
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@rain patio how much robux do we get

night magnet
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Dude I honestly love onlyfans

tawdry skiff
night magnet
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OnlyFans is the best product ever

azure zephyr
tawdry skiff
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JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION

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DELETE TAIWAN
OR COMBINE KOREAS

night magnet
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Anyone know how I can get a job at OnlyFans?

autumn ridge
azure zephyr
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its gonna be interesting seeing a lot of super talented SWEs at F500 companies

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or the beast that bloomberg is about to become 😂😂

austere grove
night magnet
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OnlyFans has a crazy market niche and is only growing

azure zephyr
austere grove
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bloomberg might be the first company to make it to mars

fossil jewel
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fannie mae is such a funny name

autumn ridge
night magnet
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I’m deadass, if anyone can give a referral to OnlyFans I will pay you 5k.

night magnet
night magnet
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Mind geek resume rejected me 😞

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I’m so depressed

nocturne oriole
night magnet
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I hate recruiting how did mindgeek reject me 😭

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2023 recruiting is based

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It was my dream company

nocturne oriole
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Can my fellow patriots show this guy a lesson

night magnet
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Ayooo

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Violation

night magnet
night magnet
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Taiwan is real

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My neighbor is Taiwanese I’m not racist

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I have Taiwanese friends

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Therefore I can’t be racist

nocturne oriole
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Not good enough

night magnet
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I identify as a Taiwanese

nocturne oriole
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Maybe get taiwanese family

night magnet
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Ok I will marry a Taiwanese woman

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🙏

nova reef
night magnet
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💾📱📞🎞⌚️📷🖨📷🎞🖨

nova reef
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best emote

tawdry skiff
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I DONT BOW DOWN TO YOU

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@pulsar mural

night magnet
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🐻🐔🐻🦆🐺🦇🐮🐯🐜🐠🐝🐠

nocturne oriole
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CHILL

quaint zinc
night magnet
drowsy pawn
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is there any early careers role for intel? i couldn't any other than specific jobs

quaint zinc
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Number of squreful arrays

night magnet
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Tiktok isn’t 996

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Fake news

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Fear god boy

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CCP will find you

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Good

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What do you think about Taiwan?

drowsy locust
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does anyone know the codesignal score cutoff for roblox ng?

whole berry
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so really its rng

nova reef
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cognitive matters too

deft copper
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First time I had to do probability on a swe oa lmao

nova reef
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matter more than codesignal actually

drowsy locust
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damn, thats crazy. Maybe the 840's had terrible cognitive portions

fallen fox
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so anyone get amazon oa recently 🤡

tardy geode
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how do you guys prep for behavioral ?

floral plank
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Just do a few mock behavioral on pramp

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After that it becomes second nature

night magnet
tardy geode
nova reef
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source - I was an intern there this summer 2_PeepoShrug

glass knoll
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anyone who has done palantir karat -- are the questions from the Palantir tagged on LC or the karat interviewer chooses anything they want?

rugged pilot
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anyone has experience in interviewing with Akamai?

split plaza
fringe egret
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is Apple actively hiring new grads rn?

glass knoll
wind mango
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What’s better for a full time role: General Motors (Austin, TX) or Vanguard (Malvern, PA). Both are software engineer positions, but the General Motors position also includes ML and AI (not sure how to feel about that?). Both have similar pay. Any thoughts would be appreciated

night magnet
ripe marsh
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Not as many as last year same time though

wheat seal
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Mongodb is doing new grad in Australia lol

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Not in Us though

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Nop

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It’s just 150k tc in nyc

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It’s not a hedgefund

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I know someone who has and they are not in even in top 100

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Only companies that really care about school ranking are hedge funds

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That’s just intern experience

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Intern search is a lot harder than ng

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Although this year ng is probably harder

glass kraken
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also interns can take a bad internship and be fine

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if u take a bad ft job u might be messed up for many years

glass kraken
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i wouldnt do a phd unless you actually want to lol

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they are much harder than full time work

wheat seal
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I’d just take a job anywhere that has swe

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Even if it’s TCS

glass kraken
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my hope is that as long as we keep grinding throughout ft we can make it back to the top

wheat seal
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TCS cognizant

glass kraken
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so take whatever job but dont stop looking and grinding

wheat seal
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I’d just take something there and dip when you can

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But tbh I’d take a job from like ADP, or UPS

fossil jewel
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nope i had a shot at the internship but failed at second round

wheat seal
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And just deal with that before hopping

fossil jewel
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dont even go to t50

wheat seal
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Mongodb is super inclusive

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They hire from all backgrounds

glass kraken
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if the company is willing to hire u then u must not be looked down on

wheat seal
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Top schools and not so top schools

glass kraken
wheat seal
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It’s easy-medium I’m pretty sure

fossil jewel
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the karat itself wasnt hard

wheat seal
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They don’t ask crazy leetcode

fossil jewel
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i'd say easy/med ye

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i was just not prepared

wheat seal
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For FTE is lc medium

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They don’t ask super hard LC questions

fossil jewel
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their flow was like

autumn ridge
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can confirm got resume rejected

wheat seal
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Yea my recruiter at current company was ivy leavue grad too

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But it doesn’t matter

fossil jewel
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application -> long ass time for screen -> recruiter call -> karat interview -> 3 x 60min round final

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the karat was scheduled at a time that was just hard for me mentally

wheat seal
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MongoDB is definitely a company I would love to work for

night magnet
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Why

fossil jewel
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yeah same,

wheat seal
fossil jewel
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their culture seems great

wheat seal
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Wlb

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And company looks promising

ivory stratus
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i feel like ibm culture would be dope too

night magnet
fossil jewel
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yeah and as a user, i can tell they care about their product by writing good docs

wheat seal
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Like mongo stock will explode for shre

fossil jewel
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me and the recruiter vibed too it was a really good convo

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he understood the product and the company well

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some recruiters dont really understand the technical stuff

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check resume

autumn ridge
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I don't think GPA or LC count help with getting interviews

fossil jewel
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resume could be the thing holding you back

ivory stratus
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gpa doesnt matter unless companies state it too

fossil jewel
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are you getting interviews or OAs?

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interviews?

ivory stratus
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internships, projects, code competitions?

fossil jewel
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are you international?

rustic vessel
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That’s the problem, no internships

ivory stratus
alpine path
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Only 1 interview as well and have 2 prior faang internships. This season sucks

ivory stratus
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if you have something to offset it

hasty birch
ivory stratus
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like extra projects or doing well in a competition

autumn ridge
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I think the no internships will make it tough especially this year. Not trying to be discouraging just a lot of people with FAANG and crazy exp often don't hear back from companies

distant rampart
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How many have u applied to

ivory stratus
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literally last year it didn't matter what your resume looked like

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so many people got at least interviews with bigN

autumn ridge
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You can still do it just going to need to send out a lot of apps

ivory stratus
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part of it is just recession/heading to recession

distant rampart
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Applied to more

fossil jewel
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like last year i didnt have any internships but i had a decent amount of responses, this year as well i only have 30 or so applications

ivory stratus
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same competition, less spots/hc

dusky plover
ivory stratus
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i feel you dont worry

distant rampart
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Yeah u will def get more interviews if u apply 200+

autumn ridge
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IMO as long as you can still graduate job > school

distant rampart
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But i know how u feel

hasty birch
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Just need one offer

autumn ridge
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I'm praying for straight D's this semester

hasty birch
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And then jump in a year

wheat seal
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I’d rather join witch than do a PHD

fossil jewel
wheat seal
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I heard cognizant did some really good ML work though

hasty birch
fossil jewel
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i dont think it makes it much more difficult that its impossible

nocturne oriole
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If ur gonna minmax life like that, just go all the way and accept u should job hop at L4 for the $

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Why wait till L5

distant rampart
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I applied to 200+ now only 5 interviews 0 offers 💀

ivory stratus
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i dont think it matters as long as you have experience

hasty birch
fossil jewel
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if jobs dont care about school prestige, then they'd care about experience much more

ivory stratus
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like companies dont care if you were at a bign or FAANG, as long as you can pass interviews and know your shit you're gucci

fossil jewel
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school is completely different from the working environment

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nah become the CEO

nocturne oriole
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Yeah like everyone says get that 1yoe anywhere to either get high band L3 at big N

ivory stratus
nocturne oriole
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Or wait till 2yoe for L4

autumn ridge
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I think the optimal strat would be to jump as soon as you can even if it's entry level

serene fable
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How hard is it to jump to big n from something like consulting?

wheat seal
fossil jewel
nocturne oriole
ivory stratus
hasty birch
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Idk about quantitying how hard tho

serene fable
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Harder than going from new grad?

ivory stratus
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have to put in more work on LC and understanding sys design and everything else

wheat seal
hasty birch
nocturne oriole
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Maybe

ivory stratus
fossil jewel
ivory stratus
autumn ridge
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I'm not sure about that. What would make it harder to jump from outside vs new grad? Just the interview being more difficult?

wheat seal
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And like l5+

nocturne oriole
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Most “ambitious” i have seen is like a big bank with 9mo -> google L3

fossil jewel
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i could check since i just saw one of my connections congratulating him

jolly ingot
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Is it possible for the company to withdraw the offer?

nocturne oriole
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Honestly in this economy yes. Dont believe people, these times are difficult and companies are dirty

ivory stratus
wheat seal
fossil jewel
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nvm its been months since it happened

rustic vessel
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Do people usually start at l2 or l3, seems to vary quite a bit between companies

ivory stratus
autumn ridge
alpine path
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TCS Tech support -> Citadel Quant in 3 months

ivory stratus
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right?

autumn ridge
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Microsoft is like 59 or 63 or something lol

jolly ingot
nocturne oriole
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Most of the level mappings get compared to google I guess. Yeah L3 is new grad

autumn ridge
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L3 is just plain entry level at Snap,G a lot of others

fossil jewel
nocturne oriole
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I would say weigh that offer depending on how much faith u have in company stability

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I do genuinely think at this point a large big tech or enterprise F500 will not rescind

wheat seal
tawdry skiff
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companies are dirty you say

nocturne oriole
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But who knows

tawdry skiff
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big tech could rescind

wheat seal
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They are booming

tawdry skiff
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depending on how bad the recession is

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they are starting to slow down / layoff people

alpine path
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At tiktok you have to report to CCP

autumn ridge
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Some companies do have a "L2" or equivalent for certain programs like Snap had a Snap academy or something which was for people attempting to break into tech and they were "L2's" for a year before becoming L3's if they passed but new grads are hired at L3

nocturne oriole
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Tbh something u can be doing and shoulda been is getting linkedin network and recruiter emails

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Cuz either way if shit hits fan u find a new job

ivory stratus
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bro this. i cold email/message recruiters and 9 times out of 10, as long as its personable, i get an OA or something out of it

nocturne oriole
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If i get laid off i will basically self dox for clout and farm referrals

ivory stratus
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or if they aren't hiring, they message me when they are

outer radish
autumn ridge
outer radish
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cause i swear this works for me too but i just need more email address lmao

nocturne oriole
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Salesql or guess or ask friends

ivory stratus
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i cant remember what it's called, my gfs sister told me about it

wheat seal
nocturne oriole
tawdry skiff
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wendy was my first

wheat seal
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Are more ppl quitting @nocturne oriole

autumn ridge
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I haven't done it myself but every time I post a job process update I get dm'ed by multiple people asking for my recruiters name for that exact strat

outer radish
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ah true lemme check it out

ivory stratus
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i think

tawdry skiff
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gave them multiple frosties

slate bobcat
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extra swirl

nocturne oriole
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@tawdry skiff do not speak unless spoken to thank u

dusky plover
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hi kirb buy me some in n out

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feed ur kid

fossil jewel
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shake shack pls

tawdry skiff
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kirb, can you get me some burgers from the burger shack

#

extra mayo for mine

outer radish
#

someone say in and out 🍌 kirbywow

fossil jewel
#

i wish there was an in n out in the east coast CB_pepe_hands

slate bobcat
#

I’ll take a $5 box from BACO TELL

tawdry skiff
nocturne oriole
tawdry skiff
#

I'M FUCKING PISSED OFF

dusky plover
#

fr tho, y does japanese mayo taste so much nicer than american mayo

alpine path
#

@crisp juniper is giving Databricks referrals. Message him for the referral link

tawdry skiff
#

THE FUCKING TACO BELL IS NOW $6 BOX

#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

NO MORE FUCKING $5 BOX

slate bobcat
#

really?

fossil jewel
#

inflation

nocturne oriole
dusky plover
#

KEKW bro a single taco here is 6$

outer radish
tawdry skiff
#

OH SORRY, WE ONLY HAVE $6 BOXES HERE

#

FUCKING HELL

dusky plover
#

???

#

isnt there like

#

3 tacos in a taco bell box

tawdry skiff
#

WE ALL KNOW TACO BELL DOESN'T USE REAL MEAT ANYWAYS

slate bobcat
#

THEYR BRINNGIBG BACK THE ENCHILLADAS

#

those are about to go crazy

tawdry skiff
#

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY RAISE THE FUCKING PRICE

nocturne oriole
tawdry skiff
#

okay

#

done

nocturne oriole
dusky plover
#

doesnt taco bell sell fried rice now lol

slate bobcat
#

I don’t think so

nocturne oriole
#

No my people would never allow that

#

The taco people

dusky plover
#

whyd you type OA WazowskiStare bro brain wired to cs

slate bobcat
#

I stay grinding

#

Never stop

tawdry skiff
slate bobcat
#

this is me

#

irl

nocturne oriole
#

Those are legit

tawdry skiff
#

ehh, i dont see the hype

outer radish
#

REDACTED

slate bobcat
#

that looks so good

nocturne oriole
#

Covid weight gain going hard

tawdry skiff
#

maybe because I didn't have good birria tacos

dusky plover
#

fuck im hungry now

outer radish
#

as the taco

#

its qusadilla taco

slate bobcat
nocturne oriole
#

WHAT IS UDILLAS

tawdry skiff
slate bobcat
#

UDULLAS

#

ITS SO BAD

outer radish
tawdry skiff
slate bobcat
#

I’m still scarred

outer radish
#

yeeeeeeeeee

#

thats the one

tawdry skiff
#

get the cheesy bread

slate bobcat
#

And yet it’s trending on DoorDash

#

HOW

outer radish
#

get a small pizza with every meet they have

tawdry skiff
#

get fucking higher than a kite

#

and get the cheesy bread

slate bobcat
#

pizza

tawdry skiff
#

trust

#

higher than kite

slate bobcat
#

not anyone though

tawdry skiff
#

then cheesy bread

slate bobcat
#

I can’t have dominoes now

#

NO

#

it’s so bad

tawdry skiff
#

midterms over?

slate bobcat
#

I have one tommrow

#

I’m aiming for a 30

tawdry skiff
#

okay, after midterms

slate bobcat
#

NO

#

it’s so many calories

outer radish
#

anyone wanna go get a job in NYC like tomorrow around 6?

slate bobcat
#

1 pizza is literally the amount of calories I’m aiming for in a day

outer radish
#

thats usually when i get a job in NYC

slate bobcat
#

and like no protien

tawdry skiff
#

I normally eat clean and once a day

#

but when I cheat

#

fucking taco bell only has $6 box

#

Mother fucking $6 box

#

not $5

#

fucking $6

slate bobcat
#

GOOD

tawdry skiff
#

so I didn't cheat

slate bobcat
#

BACO TELL BAD

#

The box is 1500 calories

#

THINK ABOUR THAT

#

for one meal

#

that’s crazy

tawdry skiff
#

I dont count calories that much

slate bobcat
#

AND I STILL GET UR EVRY SUNDAY

tawdry skiff
#

just eat meal in one hour

#

and try to eat clean

slate bobcat
#

I’m pretty fat

#

That’s why I count

#

I wanna cut

tawdry skiff
#

it's hard to eat like 2k calories in chicken breast and veg

#

trust

slate bobcat
#

I don’t eat chicken

tawdry skiff
#

nice

#

everyday, you just eat one meal in one hour

#

mon-fri

slate bobcat
#

VERY GOOD

tawdry skiff
#

eat clean

#

work out

#

then sat and sun, you cheat alittle since you need it

#

eating from 12 - 10 so you can socialize and not be goblin

#

rinse and repeat

wheat seal
#

Anyone have good easy recipes

#

Food is so boring now for me

tawdry skiff
#

mac and cheese

#

toast breadcrumbs on nonstick for crunch

chilly burrow
tawdry skiff
wheat seal
#

R those onion rings?

#

In lasagna?

chilly burrow
#

An open mind leads to wondrous things

teal jackal
#

@sour canopy this ur work?

#

ahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

inner cape
#

has anyone ever had an offer recinded after asking for more money?

#

like is that even a thing?

plush crane
#

I read that Apple did that once

sour canopy
lilac locust
#

How do I negotiate an offer without an competing offer

distant rampart
#

Yeah job market might get even worse

naive flint
#

this year so tough

#

so stressed fr

#

last year felt like they were handing out offers like candy😭

verbal sorrel
#

Why Kotaro

#

Why you gotta remind me of that show man trolldespair

#

There’s a season 2 coming?

#

More suffering pain2

serene fable
#

Which show?

wheat seal
#

Nothing tbh

#

Yea I agree. I’d just take any job

#

And grind lc on side

#

I do lol

#

Ground beef

#

Chicken is too dry

#

I prefer ground beef grass fed

#

Teriyaki chicken would be nice

#

Too much work though

#

Yea I agree. No one is going to judge especially with this market

#

As long as it’s SWE

#

Ur fine

#

Even if it’s STE

#

What’s a good recipe

#

What recipe u use?

runic wind
vast rock
#

yall can someone confirm is amazon still pretty much frozen?

#

like applied in august and not getting OA & VO and all?

winter loom
#

yea

#

confirmed

livid yew
#

Damn I need sugar kekw_recession_edition

#

Imagine not having any sugar in the apartment dogesmile

vast rock
#

I wonder if there's a bug or something how come i m seeing ppl getting OA -> VO-> offer no waitlist

livid yew
#

I mean it is random to a point

marble bronze
#

MF forgot the mirin

livid yew
#

Does the email/portal provide like a contact @vast rock

#

Idk Try emailing them lmao

marble bronze
#

But yeah the sauce is generally pretty simple

I like cooking, is very therapeutic

vast rock
livid yew
#

True

#

Yeah tbh I think a lot of the 2023 programs are done

vast rock
#

im confused cuz like i used to intern at amazon and like i can do industyr hire if i wanted just have to call up some peeps on the old team but they have no hc rn and they also told me amazon university hire isnt frozen

livid yew
#

So if you can do industry/SDE1 why not do that?

#

That's better I thought

serene fable
#

Apparently there are still a few people getting into Amazon new grad at this point

marble bronze
#

Yeah, slowly trickling in

serene fable
#

Some people even got off the waitlist today

livid yew
#

Yeah unfortunately teams are not just going to hire extra engineers just to hire lmao. At some point they just don't need people sadge

#

It's all about timing

wheat seal
#

They hire all the time. Just ng dropped rn

#

But SDE 1 is still booming with 1yr experience I think

livid yew
#

Yes, but also they are not going to hire 5000 people just to make their spreadsheet look better, that's retarded

wheat seal
#

No

#

I’m just saying not as much as industry

#

Industry is still hiring a crap ton

livid yew
#

^

serene fable
#

Pretty sure it's harder to get into SDE 1 than new grad though

livid yew
#

End of day, a job is better than no job

#

Yeah but you you will have practical experience then

serene fable
#

I applied 6 months after I failed an interview and got on the waitlist

livid yew
#

Oof

#

I guess I would be almost at the end of 2yrs. Last time I did Amazon interviews was in 2020 kermit_think

lilac locust
serene fable
#

Probably safe to do 6 months unless something went really wrong

livid yew
#

Yeah

#

Can't have fucked up that bad kekw_recession_edition

marble bronze
#

Bro with Amazon's hiring frequency the only way you could have such a bad review is like if you said the n word 💀

bold pier
#

People said the same thing 20 years ago also, same with automation will take away all the jobs! Did it though? kermit_think

marble bronze
#

Once we have that, we would have achieved the singularity, no?

bold pier
#

What are these jobs in the grad__posting channel, where are SWE jobs

chilly burrow
#

I will it today or 2moro

bold pier
#

Yes please, stop giving me hope sadge

primal pike
#

from burying his faang money

white escarp
#

kinda pog tho 👀

lilac locust
#

Question

#

How do I negotiate an offer without an competing offer

white escarp
#

act like u have a competing offer

#

👀

white escarp
chilly burrow
white escarp
#

like linkedin job sometimes repost the same jobs over and over again

#

how do u avoid posting duplicate jobs like them

#

👀

chilly burrow
#

not the best solution but 🤷‍♂️

white escarp
#

icic

teal jackal
#

we were basically cheated out of the tc chasing dream

wheat seal
teal jackal
#

really?

wheat seal
teal jackal
#

as a new grad at least, we were completely cheated

wheat seal
#

There’s companies that will hire soon

teal jackal
#

its the end of the road as a new grad

wheat seal
#

Like afresh

teal jackal
#

whats afresh?

wheat seal
#

Startup aiming to solve problem of food waste

#

Two Stanford cofounders

rustic vessel
wheat seal
#

Lots of ex google swes

wheat seal
#

Other companies will pull up

#

Depends

lilac locust
white escarp
lilac locust
white escarp
#

they don't process till u accept the offer

#

👀

lilac locust
#

for what company

white escarp
#

just tell them u got amazon

#

👀

lilac locust
white escarp
#

👀

lilac locust
white escarp
#

what will they say then

#

plz accept company A offer and give us the letter?

#

🤣

lilac locust
#

Interesting idea

white escarp
#

u don't hear this from me

#

cuz i never cheat the system 👀

#

@ashen sonnet taught me this

#

all bad things come from him

tardy geode
#

any international students here grad/undergrad?

ashen sonnet
cosmic shale
#

Does new grad hiring pick up during spring semester? I’ve been having trouble right now getting interviews. Companies are ghosting me after OA. So just wanted to know.
Thanks

chilly burrow
#

It should hopefully work now

white escarp
#

it was u 🤣

bold pier
sharp stream
#

Just got a Draft Kings denial - no OA even

lone rapids
#

Thread for later

sharp stream
#

Yay

teal jackal
#

please prayge that all the tryhards get offers before the second wave of interviews/application postings come up

#

so the tryhards wont compete with us

bold pier
#

Yeah, but all the google and fb interns took those copium

teal jackal
#

10 is not a lot of companies anyways

#

nah, headcount cut = most positions fill quickly

#

or are on the verge of filling very soon

bold pier
#

I hate you, you smart human!

teal jackal
#

thats what we all say, me included

#

i think i just always had a tendency to be a serial underachiever

#

and now that i have the first ever goal that i want to put effort into

#

i realize how behind i am compared to my peers

#

and competition

white escarp
#

wdym

#

🤣

#

farmers gotta farm

teal jackal
#

yeah i am pretty damn behind

chilly burrow
#

What companies would u consider?

white escarp
#

have u got an offer already?

#

👀

#

😭 😭 😭 leave me some breads

bold pier
teal jackal
#

i only have amazon + local company on my resume, i know zero sysdesign, my leetcode level is medium with some hard level capabilities, im completely clueless with behaviorals, and i get resume rejected at a 90% rate

#

its better to have amazon than not have it, but amazon's brand cachet for job hopping is becoming devalued

white escarp
teal jackal
#

amazon brand cachet isnt gonna catch the attention of a unicorn recruiter

chilly burrow
white escarp
#

their founding team is insane

#

👀

chilly burrow
#

Seems like a lot of potential

#

Too early for me tho

white escarp
#

have u tried ur luck there?

bold pier
white escarp
#

amazon is not easy tho lol

chilly burrow
#

Easier than Google

white escarp
#

is discord still considered a start up? 👀

chilly burrow
jade ruin
rustic vessel
white escarp
#

ibm is a big tech

#

change my mind

chilly burrow
chilly burrow
bold pier
#

Yeah, it launches on my Windows startup

teal jackal
jade ruin
teal jackal
#

tencent is basically a unicorn VC funder now

chilly burrow
white escarp
#

whats the lower side of big techs by ur definition then

#

👀

chilly burrow
#

The business model has also been proven by Databricks so I think it's solid

jade ruin
white escarp
#

tbh i dont really consider business model cuz i barely understand those but i usually look at the founding team when i search up a start up

eager stratus
#

Anyone else have this experience of thinking you fucked up interviews but passed them and vice versa

teal jackal
#

tencent aint a charity, but the whole panic behind tencent owning 5% of reddit was pure dumbassery tbh

eager stratus
#

I have no self awareness for interviews ig

chilly burrow
#

Aren't they completely different things?

#

I'm not super knowledgeable tbh

eager stratus
#

Damn sounds like you’ve only been pleasantly surprised

jade ruin
#

I think they're more focused on distributed systems scaling ur applications to multiple clusters wheras databricks is data analytics/processing & snowflake data warehousing

eager stratus
#

I thought I aced apple and got rejected lol

teal jackal
chilly burrow
#

Oh lol ya, Daviddd has a good answer ^

#

But Anyscale helps scale ml workloads

white escarp
#

do we have any good start up in canada?

eager stratus
#

are you joining Palantir then?

bold pier
#

Databrick is more focused on data processing, Snowflake is mostly storage! Chances are if you have a ton of data you'd still need Databricks even if you use Snowflake.

chilly burrow
white escarp
eager stratus
#

Oo nice didn’t know pltr comp went that high, congrats

#

I’ll also be in NYC

chilly burrow
#

Still a unicron technically 🤷‍♂️

jade ruin
#

Not really sure what Apollo is LMAO

eager stratus
#

Is that even with slumping stocks?

#

If so that’s huge

white escarp
eager stratus
#

Yeah join asap lmao

#

My comp is set share #s so I don’t really have an incentive either way

#

I’ll prob be in EV

chilly burrow
eager stratus
#

Tyty

chilly burrow
#

Temporal and Grafana

#

Tbh not sure if they're hiring new grads 🤔

bold pier
white escarp
chilly burrow
white escarp
#

really?

#

👀

chilly burrow
#

Yea

white escarp
#

icic

#

imma try them

#

😭

chilly burrow
#

Sad 😔

#

Try Grafana tho

#

Grafana is so cool 🤩

rain patio
#

Lol

#

Masters + 2 internship

chilly burrow
#

Ye

#

They're givin it org by org

#

Some ppl have gotten it

bold pier
chilly burrow
#

For me?

#

I wouldn't take it

white escarp
#

Grafana looks cool 👀

chilly burrow
#

I got an offer I like more 😌

chilly burrow
#

Thanks ☺️

chilly burrow
#

Lol prob not

#

I won't become a millionaire

white escarp
#

but they don't specifically say they hire new grad

#

👀

chilly burrow
#

Ya shoot ur shot anyway

white escarp
#

ye

chilly burrow
#

U never know 🤷‍♂️

white escarp
#

i'll throw in my resume and hope for nothing

#

🤣

eager stratus
#

Grafana is a series C? That’s crazy

rain patio
#

😦

cold matrix
#

guys i got this in my email, but i haven't gotten a roblox offer yet or anything from my recruiter yet... is this normal? could this be a mistake?

rustic vessel
cold matrix
#

i did do a final + an extra behavioral

chilly burrow
#

I wouldn't celebrate just yet

cold matrix
#

im not

#

but now im anxious

chilly burrow
#

Mayb send an email abt it to ur recruiter

cold matrix
#

i actually sent an email to my recruiter this morning asking for an update on my application

white escarp
chilly burrow
#

Hoping 4 da best 4 u tho 🙏

cold matrix
#

i haven't received anything from the recruiter but got this at 10 PM lol

cold matrix
#

i think ill cry

#

it says congratulations AGAIN and also "reminder" in the title

#

but i never received any congrats

#

ohh that is definitely plausible, i really hope thats the case

#

ill be refreshing my email 24/7 tomorrow

#

oh rly?? thats really good to hear 😄

#

congrats btw on that

#

tytyyy~~

#

ahh i see! yall are making me excited

#

but i cant be just yet

#

imma hold off on joining the discord for now lmao

#

uhh i think 8 on the first one, and 2 or 3 on the second one

#

lowkey was putting random shit and somehow got 8

#

yeah idk how tbh

#

mostly brute force, but i've taken the same OA last year for intern position, so that familiarity helped for me

#

there was environment, deer thing, robot

#

it was actually longer than new grads OA

#

yeaaa

#

i was sorta happy i didnt have to do the environment one

#

it was super confusing

#

yeaa haha

#

841

#

ah do they?

#

ive seen people saying u need 840+?

#

not too sure on how accurate that is tho

#

i agree, its very dumb

rustic vessel
nova reef
#

I referred my friend for ng and he got VO with ~820 codesignal

cold matrix
#

ooh i didnt know

winter loom
#

does roblox ask hards/dp in VO?

cold matrix
#

nope typical easy/med

coarse charm
#

did you get any sys design?

teal jackal
#

i doubt roblox will care that much

chilly burrow
#

y?

pallid vine
#

how you know T T

#

my interview is on 11/14, im depressed now 🥹

elder locust
#

This company asked me to schedule a behavioural interview with HR this week. After I gave them my timeslots, then they decided to skip the behavioural and scheduled a technical interview with coderpad instead.

I asked them to reschedule the technical interview and now they want me to do another behavioural interview, again. 🥴

grizzled bronze
knotty talon
#

i used all my brain cells for that shit

#

and got like 4

reef wyvern
#

for benchling, how soon did people hear back after phone? it’s been almost a week for me and nothing yet 😬

uneven grove
#

Anyone hear back from flatiron health after karat?

lilac locust
#

Why

vast rock
last summit
#

this guy is a 🐍 bro

#

i dont get it

compact obsidian
#

if they were completely full they wouldn't bother with continuing interviews

#

i got rej from them a few weeks back saying that headcount was filled

fluid quest
#

Isnt this the system design ish one?

compact obsidian
last belfry
#

For bloomberg, I have my vo2 tmr on campus. Should i also prep for hr round as well? Or does that happen, on another day?

kind orbit
#

Has anyone interview with TikTok for DS new grad ?

fluid quest
#

Hmm dont think I got it last year, but was for intern so idk

lament summit
#

this was what i got

#

i got that demographic like 10 times throughout my entire process

#

i dont think the demographic means anything

#

candidate survey does (probably)

#

r u Asian

#

if u are I would just assume u got rejected