2023_grads

[lilac locust]

no

what’s with google and this 20% thing then

[teal jackal]

tfw every pull request on coderquad is "close [company]"
i only now realize how fucked my job search is

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

i genuinely feel nothing but despair

holy crap you got twitch?

[timber rock]

I've heard it's pretty chill

Very un-amazon

[wheat seal]

i mean twitch has just been poorly run recently. But engineering wise its probably good

like whoever runs twitch

like how they ban creators

[teal jackal]

honestly the job market is getting REALLY bad now
i used to think "you know what i think i might not be faang caliber but i can get a job still"
im pessimistic now

[wheat seal]

search up twitch controversy and ull see what i mean. But i think engineers could care a less about that

[timber rock]

Meta interns stealing all our jobs

😡

[wheat seal]

every company has their shade anyways

[sonic coral]

I mean there’s parts of amazon that are less amazon-like too

[teal jackal]

twitch even still has new grad?

[wheat seal]

yea engineering wise, the engineers there prob could care a less about the twitch controversy

[sonic coral]

I’d imagine because twitch is smaller their culture is more consistent than zon

Whereas zon is massive and varies tremendously

[wheat seal]

who is in charge of banning creators?

at twitch

whoever is in charge of banning creators, needs to be replaced

[sonic coral]

Isnt that automated

[wheat seal]

like at twitch they perma banned a streamer because he skipped a red light

but then they reversed

it was adin ross lol

[sonic coral]

Yeah they’re anal about the content guidelines

Like the most ridiculous one I remember was the dude who got mugged while live and got banned because it had violence

Like bruh I’m sure the dude specifically got mugged for the stream

[wheat seal]

yea

[wheat seal]

actually i meant adin ross skipped a redd light and got perma banned

[sonic coral]

They should have same holidays as zon iirc

I’ve never heard of that

[teal jackal]

My future is so bleak

[wheat seal]

i dont think thats possible

at least for some roles

like twitch moderation

and engineering

ppl always speak so bad about amazon but for every company its team dependent

[twilit wasp]

i have some friends who are considering to do a masters now

[wheat seal]

amazon is massive

[twilit wasp]

just to delay their entry in the job market by 1 year

[sonic coral]

Yeah like I said amazon culture varies like crazy even within the company

Twitch does have free lunch tho iirc

But in any case either amazon or twitch are extremely solid companies to start at

[timber rock]

I've looked into that as well hahah

[sonic coral]

Especially in this economy

[twilit wasp]

they are betting on the fact it will get better next year

[timber rock]

Just as a backup plan if I don't get anywhere

[sonic coral]

I doubt it tbh

I think it’ll take at least 2 years

[twilit wasp]

bruh i dont have the money to pay for a master ...

[twilit wasp]

[twilit wasp]

i dont even know who to ask for the letter of reference, and we need 2 of them

for uk unis at least

[timber rock]

I'd ask my project supervisor

And maybe personal tutor or something

[twilit wasp]

a friend did that, and the supervisor was like - "I dont know you very much, better try someone else"

yeah i would ask my PT but 2nd person hmmm

[timber rock]

Lol

I dont think any staff at the uni knows me much

[twilit wasp]

same lol, apart from my PT, dont think anyone knows me much

[clever orbit]

Was considering this

Good idea or??

[timber rock]

My pt has changed every year hah I've only spoken to him for like 5 minutes

[twilit wasp]

depends on each person i think

[clever orbit]

fucc

[twilit wasp]

im international, so i have to take another loan to pay for the stupid fees

[timber rock]

I would only recommend it if you literally can't get a job at all

[twilit wasp]

that's a rip, i had the same since y1 and we meet 3 times a semester and chat about random shit for 1hr at least

[timber rock]

I would take a low paying job over the masters if I got the choice

[twilit wasp]

then 5mins about course

tbh i would rather have some more experience before going for a master

[timber rock]

Yeah me too

I'm really tired of studying

I just wanna make money and stop piling up debt lol

[clever orbit]

can you apply to grad roles after 1 year of experience/

?

[timber rock]

Yes

No

I mean

I thought u meant postgrad degrees

Most grad roles will say you must have graduated within 12 months or whatever

[twilit wasp]

imagine writing another background chapter but this time for master thesis lol, taking forever to write 5 pages

[teal jackal]

Happiness is a memory to me now

Not my present

[timber rock]

If I ever have to read a bunch of research papers again I'm gonna explode

[teal jackal]

I think I've spent my entire senior year unhappy

[twilit wasp]

well, fortunately you didnt pick pdiot then ... im crying rn

[timber rock]

Lmfao

Thankfully I didnt

[twilit wasp]

so regretting my life choices rn, but at least it doesnt have an exam:)))

[timber rock]

I'm pretty happy with my courses except databases lol

I have 8 lectures a week and 5 of those are just databases

So boring

[twilit wasp]

i started with database last year sem1 but it was too boring

and i switched to ivr

which was another mistake of my life

[twilit wasp]

wait 5 lectures for idb??

[timber rock]

Yeah

[twilit wasp]

[timber rock]

2 on monday 1 on wednesday and 2 on friday

Zzzz

[twilit wasp]

rip you hahahaha, 2 on friday

[timber rock]

Hahahah I heard that course was a mess

[timber rock]

I'm like 2 weeks behind on idb

Lol

No coursework until like week 8

[twilit wasp]

it is.. like there is a reason why it is in that channel...

[timber rock]

I was gonna take it last year but someone in the fb chat said it was terrible

Glad I didn't cause iaml was bad enough

[twilit wasp]

oh yeah iaml ... doing mlp now and the lecturer is so boring ngl

[teal jackal]

The harder the world kicks you down to the ground and leaves you for dead, the stronger you rebound

[timber rock]

Inspiring

[twilit wasp]

gonna jump off lvl9 lol

[timber rock]

[teal jackal]

i honestly admire the people who know we're in a recession but from the bottom of their heart genuinely don't care about finding a job or making a lot of money

[rain patio]

Recession doesnt matter...
Dont u need a job?

[teal jackal]

im just like

im impressed by how some people genuinely dont think much of it

and they instead focus on the little things in life that make them happy to be alive

family, friends, relationships, games, food, etc

[hexed canopy]

Is Roblox safe to join during recession? I love games but not so believe in metaverse..

[west egret]

One thing to remember is that money by itself won’t make you happy. It’s what you’re able to do because of that money. Things like taking vacations, going out to eat, having financial stability, etc.

[timber rock]

so the oa email from expedia says it's instant disqualification if you do anything on your browser

but on the test page it says you can refer to documentation

[fossil jewel]

money is a means to an end

i think an issue of being in the major is that you think of yourself as lesser than others because you’re not working at a prestigious place making crazy high TC

[wheat seal]

Msft

Rn especially

Ur getting stock low

And it’ll definitely go up

Only issue is location

Redmond is pretty boring

[jaunty basalt]

depends on the org at msft

otherwise the benefits are better

like i got both offers

[wheat forum]

depends on a lot of things :)

[jaunty basalt]

i wanted some choice on my team and i wanted nyc

[wheat forum]

did bloomberg give that to u?

[jaunty basalt]

yessir

[wheat forum]

nicee

[rain patio]

Yup this is what blind does to people

[wheat forum]

its not even exclusive to blind

a lot of kids in college will cultivate the same culture

thinking its what success looks like lol

[timber rock]

what did people get on expedia oa who got to final

like what score is good enough

i just did it and got 15/15 and 9/15

[sonic coral]

Nah in my experience most kids in college didn’t even leetcode

[wheat forum]

must be nice

[bronze nymph]

i thought this was the case for my uni, but recently ive been seeing hella people doing lc during lecture

[nocturne oriole]

At my college it’s been catching on since youtube influencers mention it so much plus last year for the first time people started getting into faang etc

And kiddos got amazon internships etc

Very new things in my school’s history

Suddenly people are aware u can make 💰

[mossy ice]

Anyone interview with Appian?

[quaint zinc]

[wheat seal]

Same

[teal jackal]

same

[teal jackal]

at my college leetcode and career hustling hasnt caught on that much, but there will always be people who wanna do it

[jaunty basalt]

At my school it’s cuz most of them don’t need it

[night magnet]

Yes

[mossy ice]

I pmed u

[tawdry skiff]

nah, people at my school don't interview even though money

"oh I'm not good enough to get interview at x company. I'll just work as a pool boy and use that experience to get into Google"

smd

[teal jackal]

I just want a job thatll let me take the wock to poland

omg same bestie

tbh i feel like some of the questions actually jebaited me

like they made it sound like one trait was better than the other when in reality it implied smething else

[rain patio]

Which taxes are worse nyc or bay. And rent too

[jaunty basalt]

msft refreshers arent good

but i get ur point

i really didnt want to move and i wanted to have more control over what team i joined

[tawdry skiff]

msft refreshers are 🥜

[marble bronze]

I feel like after around 100-ish leetcode has diminishing returns

[tawdry skiff]

that's the hope

but who knows

[jaunty basalt]

exactly thats why i dont like planning like that

i dont know if ill have the same level of offers in the future

[tawdry skiff]

go with the flow bb

someone will gib me google referral and I'll rest and vest

[marble bronze]

Doesn't Google pay not the least but relatively low among the big n?

[shrewd ocean]

bcos its not just lc

[tawdry skiff]

yeah, but effective hourly pay is going to be high

[marble bronze]

Perhaps leetcode isn't the only thing they're looking for

[tawdry skiff]

that's all I'm worried about

[marble bronze]

Fair

[shrewd ocean]

ya so this isnt a lc issue

[wheat seal]

I’m saying that’s a good thing that’s why I said go msft

[shrewd ocean]

anything over like 200 lc qs not even worth doing

[wheat seal]

I did 200lc for ng season

Personally doing all approaches is best I think

[shrewd ocean]

ya i said over 200

[wheat seal]

So in reality it’s like 300-400 problems

[shrewd ocean]

that guy said he did like 500

[wheat seal]

2023 summer it’s not going to recover. The recession didn’t even start yet

[shrewd ocean]

ya it def started

[jaunty basalt]

dont worry everyone is in denial

or they didnt take econ

[tawdry skiff]

we are not in a recession

[wheat seal]

That’s false

[jaunty basalt]

dude even the dude on my bills have receeding hairlines

[tawdry skiff]

if we keep changing the def of recession, then we are not in a recession

[wheat seal]

Interest rates haven’t gone up completely yet

[timber rock]

no

there's a guy here who got to the oa with drive as a weakness

i dont think your result matters much

[lilac locust]

oh

[wheat seal]

Aren’t we talking about the economy tho?

[tawdry skiff]

No we are all homeless

The question is

Refrigerator box or tent homeless

[timber rock]

its just cause theyre not hiring rn

[teal jackal]

Does Expedia resume reject?

[wheat seal]

The recession just started actually

Ur right I agree

[teal jackal]

We stopped talking about it when the dream died

[wheat seal]

Recession started just this summer

It’ll will not be over in summer 2023

[timber rock]

nope

strength based oa is auto

[shrewd ocean]

i think they do after oa

[timber rock]

it was only the top 10% or something

[wheat seal]

Yea I just said I agree

That recession just started

This summer

[teal jackal]

Ah, so they ghost instead

They ghost until end of season if u fail the strength based assessment or fail resume screen

[timber rock]

oh lol

[teal jackal]

Or do they resume rj after the assessment?

[wheat seal]

Point I was saying is that it won’t be over in 2023 Summers. Like interest rates with banks are sky high and could go up even more

[timber rock]

i dunno

[teal jackal]

Same

[timber rock]

everyone i know who did strength based got to the coding oa

[teal jackal]

The recession isn't even actually here yet lol

[wheat seal]

Stock price doesn’t equal layoffs tho

[wheat seal]

It just started, we don’t know how bad it could get I agree

[teal jackal]

Tech got screwed over first

[wheat seal]

Here’s the thing, right now u can’t look at EPS everyone is in the negative for the most part. Not all of tech is doing layoffs

It’s better to look at sales growth and gross profit

That’s a much much better metric

Yes we are in a recession

[teal jackal]

Wait yeah I agree

[wheat seal]

But it’s going to get worse tho

Like it just started

[sonic coral]

Didn’t layoffs for 2009 start way back in like 2007

[teal jackal]

We are already in a recession, but this is hardly the bottom of the recession

[tawdry skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/iasip-always-sunny-dennis-reynolds-gif-25732612

[wheat seal]

Yea like msft stock will probably go lower but that doesn’t mean layoffs

It has nothing to do with it

I didn’t I’m at qualtrics now

Oh u mean like between ur two choices?

Bbg and msft?

I was saying that the stock price will go up in a few years based on the price it is now

[teal jackal]

Damn honestly 2023 grads are so unlucky, so many companies that used to hire by the hundreds are not hiring at all this year

And companies that still are are often cutting Hc

[wheat seal]

It could go lower tho in 2023

Msft won’t be this low forever

Recession could last awhile but it’ll recover past this point it is now

What’s ur point?

[teal jackal]

It'll recover, probably in like 2026

Worst case: bubble never recovers, American lost decade incoming

[wheat seal]

Yea which is why i said msft is great to pick over bbg for that reason

It’s literally the best time to join google or msft

Or any growth stock that’s well established

[teal jackal]

Implying anyone can

[wheat seal]

Like Palantir

[teal jackal]

[timber rock]

america dying is a net positive

[wheat seal]

The season isn’t over yet

[tawdry skiff]

It can go lower

MSFT also already had layoffs

Just join whichever one you like, location, etc

Stocks ain't going to matter if you're planning on leaving in 2 years

[teal jackal]

it sure feels over

[teal jackal]

bloomberg tech stack is pretty good?

[worthy sapphire]

What's BB TC offering?

[wheat seal]

yea i agree with that. Its a tough choice tbh

im in seattle now and its not the best

[normal palm]

employment is a lagging indicator

[wheat seal]

im saving my stock lol

[normal palm]

i thought it was 190-210?

[wheat seal]

i only live off of base

[normal palm]

oh interesting, so amazon tc is technically > bb

200 i think

[worthy sapphire]

What do you tell while negotiating for a new grad role? Internship exp and your university?

[teal jackal]

yeah i recant that statement

employment is bad now

recession is here

it'll be here for a while

awesome, bloomberg sounds like a great place

id be excited to work there

[normal palm]

why do you think so

besides layoffs

[teal jackal]

2 quarters of negative growth

the techncial definition of a recession

[wheat seal]

probably not. But its going to go back up. Our sales growth is 40% increase each year and our gross profit increases 40% each year and we are still doing great rn, just that we are a growth stock and economy is bad rn so our eps isnt the best but its not really that negative, its just under - similar to palantir's situation

i just dont have money to invest rn

trying to build savings

[cobalt siren]

gotta get a reality check when people in the sub are saying 155k base is low in nyc

[runic wind]

P close to faang tho

[floral plank]

What is high tc for NYC then?

[wheat seal]

yea i joined when it was $10 haha

im definitely saving

[marble bronze]

In any case getting a job right now I think is the best option. If economy gets better jump, if not hunker down and get more YoE

[runic wind]

800k or 🪢

[wheat seal]

its 100k/4yrs and i joined with stock was $12 about

so if it goes up by 3-4x

[marble bronze]

Low-key feel bad for 2024 folks not necessarily because of the economy but just the uncertainty about whether their grad year will be blessed or rope season

[wheat seal]

thats like 300k-400k maybe

who knows

[worthy sapphire]

?

[runic wind]

Competing offers, lol

[wheat seal]

also qualtrics XM has only been around for 5 years

since 2017

so i believe in it

[worthy sapphire]

Just that..

That's sad

[runic wind]

It's the only thing that works

[shrewd ocean]

3k would be like 36k

[cobalt siren]

i dont get what your point is here

[shrewd ocean]

youd still be able to save at least 30-40k annually

[cobalt siren]

i just dont get how bb's tc is considered low for nyc

[runic wind]

Whut

[wheat seal]

ur gonna need a roomate for 3k

[cobalt siren]

yeah maybe it's low if you compare to like top tech companies

[shrewd ocean]

nah ive seen places for 3k

[wheat seal]

its probably infested with roaches

[shrewd ocean]

no like decent places

[wheat seal]

oh ok

how small?

[wheat seal]

like 200 sq ft?

[shrewd ocean]

that just base tho

[runic wind]

6k for 2b is def reasonable lol

[wheat seal]

yea i agree

a 1br is gonna be at least 4k though

[runic wind]

For 2b
So half of that

[wheat seal]

why cant u just move msft to NY?

[cobalt siren]

that's what my point is - need a reality check being in this server when people are saying that 155k is low in nyc

[wheat seal]

its not low, u just have to live in astoria or brooklyn

[runic wind]

Also tax would be ~35%

[teal jackal]

we need a mf reality check in this bitch tbh

155k beats not having a job

[wheat seal]

mongoDB is top tier and pays 120k base nyc ng

[fossil jewel]

155k more than 0k

[floral plank]

Yeah there is me wishing for BB lol

[fossil jewel]

fr

[shrewd ocean]

honestly tho what u need a big ass place for rn? more than half the time ur gnna b outside

[teal jackal]

what income when we havent even found a job yet?

or at least a lot of us havent

155k beats not being able to find anything else

[wheat seal]

ull get a job season is still early

[teal jackal]

id be happy to settle

[runic wind]

On 150k? Nah

[wheat seal]

its just big tech thats mostly stopped but other companies will hire

[runic wind]

https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator#grjfls7tBW

[fossil jewel]

ik spotify opens apps in november

[wheat seal]

they only have interns

spotify doesnt ever do ng app

same with mongodb

only intern

[fossil jewel]

last year they did (i think)

[runic wind]

That's like 8.5k a mo

3k rent, 3k on other stuff
You save 2.5k

V comfortable imo

[fossil jewel]

missed my shot with mongo last year, rejected after karat round

[wheat seal]

hm i dont remember that actually thats suprising

oh yea they do have it

now

spring 2022 was the first time

i think it came out in spring 2022

[teal jackal]

i will live in nyc off 155k tc(all cash)

its not even about money to me anymore

i just dont like the idea of being unemployed

[fossil jewel]

so wack

[runic wind]

It'll increase next year
Most leases are 1yr, the rent resets after that

[fossil jewel]

i'll apply with more exp

[wheat seal]

they did in spring 2022

[teal jackal]

rent goes up every year lol

spotify usually posts late because they like to hire close to start date/immediately

usually they hire immediately

[wheat seal]

yea its not enough if u want a savings

but brooklyn id be happy to live in

its like a 40min commute

[fossil jewel]

funnily i applied for their fall co-op and got rejected even when i had more exp but the year before they interviewed me for a summer internship

[wheat seal]

so just go to manhattan on weekends

once a week

[cobalt siren]

tf

[runic wind]

Lmao this guy is a troll

Yes you can

[cobalt siren]

im sure every nyc grad wants to live in manhattan but most cant

[wheat seal]

nah id live in brooklyn

[shrewd ocean]

they can lol

[fossil jewel]

they can hike it up

[cobalt siren]

how the hell is living in manhattan a metric for a good salary

or just wanting to live in manhattan

[shrewd ocean]

stop trying to cope

[timber rock]

ppl so out of touch here lol

[teal jackal]

20% still sux ass

me no like rent go up

periodt

[fossil jewel]

most of these companies are private meaning they can do whatever they want with the rent

[teal jackal]

spotify resume screen tuff

[fossil jewel]

it'll probably be by 500 at every lease renewal

[sonic coral]

All the transplants wanna live in either the city or Williamsburg

[teal jackal]

honestly amazon summer internship sucked, i withdrew from spotify intern process because i got amazon first

[wheat seal]

its rng

with amazon

[teal jackal]

only good part abt zon was the pay + resume name(doesnt even do anything anymore with how competitive big n internships are)

[fossil jewel]

i think i get what your point is

but the difference with them wont be as stark as 1.5k and 3k

[teal jackal]

1.5k to 3k its usually not that stark

[sonic coral]

This happened to people who got Covid discounts but now that the market is back to normal it likely won’t happen again

[teal jackal]

bbut rent hikes are pretty painful nonetheless

honestly i get why i have depression
its because i waste my time in a chat where mfs are arguing about rent

[runic wind]

Lmao if the market rate is 3k
Then your new rent will be ~3k

[sonic coral]

How is the landlord gonna lose business if they have a line of people ready to move in to that apartment if the old tenant can’t renew

That’s why the rent hiked up after the city opened up post Covid because people were willing to pay the old prices

[runic wind]

I think the conclusion is

800k or 🪢

[fossil jewel]

landlords suck

[cobalt siren]

Conclusion is that if you think 155k BASE salary is low you are out of touch

[wheat seal]

they have limited income housing u know

[runic wind]

Money is just a social construct

[sonic coral]

Even now shoebox can be found for 2k

But no washer dryer is common in nyc, people are used to using laundromats or building laundry

[fossil jewel]

i remember hearing people spending 1k on eating outside per week

[tawdry skiff]

Shoebox is probably higher than 2k tbh

[wheat seal]

1k? what are they ordering from chef ramsey?

[sonic coral]

Nah you can def find old ass shoeboxes for 2k

[peak ferry]

why does this chat keep on happening, jfc 155k is plenty to live in nyc as a young new grad holy shit

[tawdry skiff]

In Manhattan?

[sonic coral]

In like chinatown and shit

[tawdry skiff]

Yup yup

I'ma plug flushings again lmao

[peak ferry]

155 BASE is absurdly high even in the HCOL swe subset of earners...

[fossil jewel]

dont bring gentrification into these areas

[cobalt siren]

you just said it was low....

And even for the subset we are in 155k tc is NOT low

[nocturne oriole]

LOL i typed like 40 words and deleted

[tawdry skiff]

Kirb
It's time

[sonic coral]

Yeah the only people paying 3k n up are def transplants

[wheat seal]

thats mongoDB tc in nyc lol - its high

[cobalt siren]

and within that subset 155k is NOT low

[peak ferry]

155k TC still probably above average ng swe in HCOL, but someone said 155k BASE which is nutty high unless they get 0 bonus/stock comp

[tawdry skiff]

Everyone just stfu

200k tc or bust

[sonic coral]

Even with 0 bonus / stock that’s still nutty high imo

[last belfry]

Is bloom vo also from tagged?

[nocturne oriole]

Tbh if u spend 40% of ur post tax tech job base salary on housing u will always get prime location, no roomies, etc. If u can handle a roomie that drops to 25% or so

[sonic coral]

You can literally get a 3k apartment and still save money and still go out

[tawdry skiff]

Fuck roomies

[wheat seal]

155-160ktc yea

[fossil jewel]

their paper money is 120k i think

[teal jackal]

end of discussion should have been here tbh

155k is livable anywhere on earth

[cobalt siren]

i'd take 155k base with no stocks that is a ridiculous base salary

[tawdry skiff]

Roommates restrict my ability to walk around nekked

[cobalt siren]

only quants beat that, I haven't seen another company in nyc pay that much for base

[nocturne oriole]

Rob is right. Plenty to max out retirement goals and get lit too

[peak ferry]

most tech doesn't do high base, I think netflix? otherwise not a clue

[teal jackal]

me too, sometimes when i hop out the shower i just come out with my nuts dangling freely and head straight to bed

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah fuck that lol no roomies is great

[runic wind]

MouseRunner is right too

[sonic coral]

You’re making 3.77k a paycheck post tax

[fossil jewel]

also you're realizing that this is 150k OUT of COLLEGE

[cobalt siren]

soooo out of touch

[fossil jewel]

you're literally 22 year olds

[nocturne oriole]

Anyway none of this matters, u wont get jobs because recession

[sonic coral]

Seriously Jesus Christ there’s college grads in nyc making 50-60k

[nocturne oriole]

Stay broke

[tawdry skiff]

22?

[fossil jewel]

you have your entire 20s to hop jobs

[tawdry skiff]

I wish

[runic wind]

Kirb has been here for like 50yrs

[cobalt siren]

bro's argument was that people want to live in manhattan so therefor 155k base is too low

that's the most ridiculous argument I've heard

[fossil jewel]

yeah this inflation is not gonna hit you as hard as those making 60k

[sonic coral]

Mf you do realize even with inflation college grads are still working in nyc for like 60k

[timber rock]

will someone please think of the poor cs grads who have to survive on 155k for one person 😔

[teal jackal]

Bruhhhhhhhhhh 150k TC beats the average new grad by a long shot

[wheat seal]

if u get like 3 other roommates its chill, like ud pay 2k rent

[teal jackal]

even the average cs major

[tawdry skiff]

@west quiver can you change description of this channel?

[wheat seal]

its still more than enough

[tawdry skiff]

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[teal jackal]

livable

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[cobalt siren]

and?

[tawdry skiff]

Here is discription

[sonic coral]

You telling me 3.77k a paycheck post tax is LOW?

[peak ferry]

bro all income numbers are reported gross, AMI is not 120k net

[tawdry skiff]

Can't buy coke and hookers every weekend with that kind of cash flow

[sonic coral]

My guy I know

[teal jackal]

this guy needs to take the mf wock to poland tbh

[fossil jewel]

also 155k is cash, there's the bonus or relo

[tawdry skiff]

Only in Mexico

[runic wind]

But uh you gotta pay for protection too

I've heard protection rates are skyrocketing

[cobalt siren]

@rain patio I'm curious what your offers are/what you're shooting for

[teal jackal]

bro

comparing to the echo chamber minority of the successful people in this chat

[tawdry skiff]

Nah, I choose plomo

[cobalt siren]

because I don't think any salary except quant would satisfy ou

[peak ferry]

tfw ur an average 22yr cs grad and you can't even buy hookers and blow every day and go to michelin star restaurants in nyc on the daily while living in a large 1bd in the middle of manhattan to yourself

[fossil jewel]

the rest of nyc (the expensive parts of manhattan) been living on that for a while

[peak ferry]

literally poverty

[wheat seal]

he said msft, bbg

[tawdry skiff]

[sonic coral]

Literally a 3k apartment, save 2k and have 2k left over for whatever the fuck you want

[peak ferry]

155 BASE and I reiterate BASE is probably in the top 1% of cs grads in the sub/server jfc

[fossil jewel]

i mean if nyc too expensive for you, seattle is better lol

[cobalt siren]

why do you want bloomberg if you think their base is low

wrong person lol

[wheat seal]

seattle is expensive too lol

[tawdry skiff]

Wrong person lol

[wheat seal]

im paying $2600 rent /mth including utilities and electric in slu for 550 sq ft

[runic wind]

wrong person lol

[cobalt siren]

and bloomberg post tax is 4335 a paycheck

[tawdry skiff]

Is that onii

[runic wind]

Yeah
Cscd is my world too

[teal jackal]

the reason its an echo chamber is also because not everyone in this chat is inherently going to meet their goal

[tawdry skiff]

I meet my goal everyday

[wheat seal]

nope, buts its close to it

[teal jackal]

i think success gets the most attention here

[cobalt siren]

i hope to god nyc isn't filled with people who think 155k base is low cause I'm for sure staying in columbus fucking ohio

[tawdry skiff]

Abs swimming in multigenerational debt

[wheat seal]

i wish i could get onni but minimum rent was 3k for a studio lol

i moved in during summer

[fossil jewel]

investment? retirement? in nyc????

[sonic coral]

I’m simply saying if you wanna ball out you can, if you wanna be a more reasonable person and get a 2-2.5k apartment there’s your investments

[tawdry skiff]

Yeah, idk about onii tbh
I'll probably get something new Fremont since all I really care about is being near sbp

[sonic coral]

Generally people who go for 3k apartments don’t really care about investing

[fossil jewel]

you wanna max out your retirement or investment, i dont think nyc is for you then

[tawdry skiff]

Yak gets 4k apartments

Cus google pays yak hard

[late kestrel]

no its not lol

[tawdry skiff]

Midwest time

[late kestrel]

why do ppl say shit thats completely wrong 😭😭

[teal jackal]

my standards are low

i already know i failed

so 155k is already a fortune for me

[tawdry skiff]

My guy

[teal jackal]

155k is like my wildest dream by now

[tawdry skiff]

Just get stripe offer

[wheat seal]

yea rent is expensive here

[late kestrel]

bb target bonus min is 17k, and youre guaranteed 80% of it.

[tawdry skiff]

It's like 300k tc for the first year

[timber rock]

poor guy cant afford food and bills on 2k a month after already saving 2k

[wheat seal]

nah lol, i moved in during summer. Maybe during winter i couldve gotten that

[bronze nymph]

man wtf are you talking about 😭 😭 😭

[tawdry skiff]

I swear, people don't know how to adult

[fossil jewel]

bruh cheddy got the offer

[bronze nymph]

i think the 15% second year part is correct^ ive heard it from someone else too

[tawdry skiff]

?

[bronze nymph]

still could be wrong tho 🤷‍♂️

[late kestrel]

??? i said minimum offer

the minimum they offer is 17k

[wheat seal]

each year they can pay up to 23k bonus?

so if ur a top performer ur basically getting 180k

[late kestrel]

also not true. youre put up for base + bonus raise in december already

[cobalt siren]

@rain patio I genuinely hope you'll be content with the bloomberg pay

[late kestrel]

they dont. idk where this dude is getting his info from

[cobalt siren]

cause if not I don't see how you could be happy at the same time

[wheat seal]

istg? is that a new acronym?

oh lol

[slender apex]

lmao wut company is this

[wheat seal]

ive never seen istg ever in my life

[late kestrel]

you know... there are raises... and pref reviews... every december......

[fossil jewel]

then dont like it, dont take it, leave some scraps for us

[slender apex]

on god

[cobalt siren]

yeah bonus is usually % of base

[late kestrel]

unless youre shit, no shot youre only getting 15%.

[cobalt siren]

but hey maybe we're all wrong

[wheat seal]

most dont, usually its with just promotion

but some companies give raises between levels

[late kestrel]

cuz youre limiting max tc to 160k LMFAO

[nocturne oriole]

gg maths wins

[wheat seal]

but how can u be a top performer year 1? Year 1 ur basically just learning

and getting help when u need

[late kestrel]

its all expectations

[cobalt siren]

well hopefully I get an offer after em and clarify the bonus situation lmao

[wicked rivet]

bruhh who rejects on a saturday

[wheat seal]

so u can build me a new PC then for free tnx

[nocturne oriole]

yo crush

[late kestrel]

but why are you expecting it to not change y2

[wheat seal]

expectations of what?

[late kestrel]

you as a new grad and nee hire

where tf did i say that wtf is wrong with u lmao

[wicked rivet]

never applied

[late kestrel]

cuz youre fear mongering and saying wild stuff lmaoo

[cobalt siren]

you've been passive aggressive bordering rude this entire time lmao

[west egret]

Did you get contacted to set up EM after HR round yet? Had my VO and HR on Wednesday. They said they want to move me to final but haven’t been contacted yet.

[cobalt siren]

I did my final on a friday and got email to schedule on a tuesday

"tf u on"

that's literally being aggressive lmao

[west egret]

Bro ppl outright playing victim when they’re the aggressors lol

[cobalt siren]

it's not, and you are probably one of the most insufferable people in this server

[nocturne oriole]

@tawdry skiff pinging because chat is chaos and u are chaos

ur fault

[cobalt siren]

plus delusional

[teal jackal]

i get why i have bad depression this semester
wasting time in this chat arguing about 155k

155k that is completely imaginary to me

not to mention

[west egret]

Someone had to take over for tfizz I guess

[timber rock]

thsi is all incredibly cringe

[wheat seal]

U had amazon internship tho

[wicked rivet]

yeh nyc is expensive but its not. that expensive

[teal jackal]

tbh theres a chance that i end up fumbling all my interviews, or nothing works in my favor. its imaginary until i get it if u know what i mean

[west egret]

Ppl in this server act like entire families don’t survive on income less than a BB SWE lol

[teal jackal]

good point

[nocturne oriole]

i also used to be dumb ugly depressed and jobless when i argued in this chat

but look at me now

i have a job

[tawdry skiff]

I am just a fragment of you

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[nocturne oriole]

I now work as a Senior Software Engineer at 3sigmaRings Trading at Shonen Jump Street

[teal jackal]

i see someone is a fan of spy x family

thank you very cool

[runic wind]

L a m e

[nocturne oriole]

fuck it im changing my discord name

[rain patio]

what does BB stand for? @west egret

[runic wind]

Big balloons

[rain patio]

But it is very depressing when on Blind.com people make 200k as NG but you only make 90k

[west egret]

Bloomberg

[sonic coral]

New kirb name drop

[cobalt siren]

i wasn't planning on responding after your last comment cause I don't really care but it's pretty easy to see you're delusional thinking 155k is low

[rain patio]

I honestly feel like I'm under qualified for everything

[runic wind]

Shonen Jump Street pays 1550k btw

85k / mo

[nocturne oriole]

take it easy yall this stuff almost always ends in a ban

[tawdry skiff]

that's it?

[nocturne oriole]

i mean i like bans tho

[cobalt siren]

fair, im done

[fossil jewel]

nah honestly, comparison is the thief of joy, its also important to realize that a LOT of sacrifices are done to make 200k

[tawdry skiff]

I'll always have this multigenerational debt

[fossil jewel]

either to mental health, grades, or friendships

[nocturne oriole]

It's fine, just try not to make things personal. You can argue with #facts and #logic but yeah ur dealing with social ineptitude @cobalt siren

[sonic coral]

Why do cs grads always wanna engage in lifestyle creep

[rain patio]

Grinding leetcode...?

[fossil jewel]

grinding lc, mocks, interviews and assessments all the time

working on projects if your resume sucks

[cobalt siren]

so how about them new york football giants

they for sure making more than 155k base

[rain patio]

I really think grinding leetcode is very toxic and useless but maybe it's cuz im bad

🙂

[nocturne oriole]

If u have mentality issue u will also have skill issue

yes lc is toxic but that's how it is, don't compare
let your haters be your elevators

[rain patio]

about to get another offer but it's less than 100k so self explanatory

[sonic coral]

Hey I fuckin hate lc but it’s undeniable that it’s a necessity for the technical interviews

You gotta slog through it

[cobalt siren]

obviously hated lc when I sucked at it but imagine if every interview was a take home project or something

[runic wind]

Can't even make as much as a 19yr old ny giants sign

[rain patio]

they can look more on our personal projects, school, interview skills

[cobalt siren]

lc feels like a cheat code

[sonic coral]

I’m a sysdesign simp personally

[rain patio]

i really can't feel that leetcode is very useless in terms of people's time. it's a brain teaser we are being tested on

[nocturne oriole]

true, they could. it's also a skill curve @rain patio like many things
first 50 hours are hell on earth

[cobalt siren]

too much to read

[tawdry skiff]

I'm just a simp

[sonic coral]

Yeah the fact is that you likely won’t ever need it on the job but it will help you in getting the job

[wheat seal]

I think leetcode is useful cuz if not then everyone would just recruit from T10

[fossil jewel]

lc can be fun when its not done under pressure

[runic wind]

Except it's a concave curve
So next 500hrs are worse

[nocturne oriole]

@rain patio u going too hard chill or i'm timing out

[rain patio]

Like spending time on personal project is more useful than leetcode...

[wheat seal]

So would u rather have only ppl from T5 or T10? Or would u want to be given a chance with leetcode?

[rain patio]

you can learn react and angular or other languages, make apps, games etc

[wheat seal]

I’ll take leetcode any day

I’m grateful for it

[timber rock]

idk man id definitely prefer to grind lc than work on projects

[fossil jewel]

yeah i dont even go to a t50, i have a decent response rate and have interviewed with cool tech companies in the past

[late kestrel]

@rain patio i think the issue here is youre saying things you dont know for certain. we dont know what y2 tc is gonna look like but its for sure not going to be 20k less than y1 or else ppl wouldnt stay

[vital meteor]

So you want to do a project for the 50 companies you applied to

[wheat seal]

Yea thats not fun

[rain patio]

no i meant personal projects.... lol

not individual company projects

[wheat seal]

But u can just copy

[rain patio]

oh... that's true

[wheat seal]

I like 95% of ppl just copy from tutorial

Without modifying

Or adding anything new

[rain patio]

or maybe you should run it in front of them and explain? idk... it could be that im making excuses lololol

[nocturne oriole]

You are at fault too, don't fool yourself.

[wheat seal]

Just tutorial start to finish

[rain patio]

What did he say

[runic wind]

I usually change the var names

[rain patio]

But yea i do grind leetcode time to time

[nocturne oriole]

No point rehashing the past, just focus on improving. You and other user brought some toxicity. My impressions are that you have some out-of-touch opinions and go hard with them. My impressions of them are that they attacked you.

[vital meteor]

Companies spend millions on recruiting they prob thought about it more than you did

[rain patio]

oh yes you might be right

...

[fossil jewel]

i mean as long as you understand the projects you did, you can honestly keep the discussion pretty long

[torpid birch]

Oh companies don't like LC that much

[fossil jewel]

the struggles of working on projects results in good discussions

[rain patio]

honestly nobody asked for my projects in depth

LOL

[torpid birch]

My impression is

They just did the stats and tracked ppl and they saw that LC people do better after several years

[wheat seal]

I don’t think u did anything wrong tbh. But I think that it’s just getting too serious like most aren’t going to make 180k tc in this market right now especially and 155k base is definitely top 1% right now.

[rain patio]

i thought smaller companies are just following big techs cuz they look cool

maybe im wrong

[torpid birch]

The big techs did that at least idk about others

[timber rock]

Lc is the easiest way for them to filter out the shitters

[torpid birch]

But probably

[cobalt siren]

@rain patio I'll admit calling you insufferable and delusional is unecessarily toxic and I do apologize for that

[vital meteor]

It's also more standardized and efficient than checking personal projects from like 100k+ kids

[wheat seal]

I agree LC is a must

[cobalt siren]

i do stand by my opinion that you're wrong but you get what I mean

[wheat seal]

It’s LC or T5 school? Which one would you prefer?

[torpid birch]

Nah personal projects you still check

[rain patio]

I wish i can get over 100k for new grad

[torpid birch]

Usually

[rain patio]

...

[torpid birch]

By asking questions about them

See if they bullshit them or not

[fossil jewel]

thats during the actual interview though

[timber rock]

Most people who can code well will be able to pass most oa's

Yeah but they are not going to interview everyone

[novel nimbus]

Why is bigtech hiring interns but not new grads🥲are interns cheap labor?

[fossil jewel]

LC is for the initial filter

[rain patio]

you think so? that's weird

i think interns are costly and less efficient

[wheat seal]

Interne are cheaper that’s why and easier to dump if economy doesn’t recover

[fossil jewel]

interns dont need benefits like medical

[runic wind]

But they do?

Lol

[west egret]

Interns are temporary. New grads you have to worry about paying year round.

[wheat seal]

Wrong, interns can contribute to production

[torpid birch]

Companies don't dump interns lol

They just won't get offers

[wheat seal]

I’m saying if economy doesn’t recover

[fossil jewel]

are there places that give insurance coverage to interns?

[wheat seal]

Meta, Airbnb, and more

[fossil jewel]

[runic wind]

Yes

[rain patio]

yes but they take time to learn the technology and after they do, it's usually time for them to leave

[west egret]

Workday

[cobalt siren]

my understanding is that interns are much cheaper of an "investment" converting to fulltime

[rain patio]

this ^

[wheat seal]

Could be before or after internship

[vital meteor]

Interns are good for all the dashboards no one wants to do

[fossil jewel]

[torpid birch]

It's not a cheaper investment

[cobalt siren]

interns are good for janitorial work too

[torpid birch]

You spend 3 months on them

And spend time mentoring them

[rain patio]

i wonna get meta intern for janitor 🙂

[torpid birch]

It's a less risky investment

[rain patio]

learned how to organize materials 🙂

[fossil jewel]

yeah but not all places would do coverage for interns (considering its only 10 weeks) but i bet most do for FT

[runic wind]

And dashboards

[rain patio]

why are you guys arguing jesus

[torpid birch]

Interns usually have to do a project at big tech

[wheat seal]

Kinda but Ull be given a lot of help. Also interviews are way less intense than new grad.

So it goes both ways

[rain patio]

the regular CS people in discord channel

[fossil jewel]

but thats interesting nonetheless

[rain patio]

🤨

[west egret]

It’s not that big of a deal because most interns would be in the age range that they’re covered under their parents tbh

[fossil jewel]

no arguing, just the first time i hear of that :)

[torpid birch]

I'm saying it's definitely not a cheaper investment, it's a more expensive but less risky one

[solemn crag]

Same for me. VO and HR on wednesday

[torpid birch]

College usually forces students to get coverage

[wheat seal]

Yea I’d take msft if it’s about money

Cuz stock will no up like 30% probably after recession is over

[west egret]

Hopefully we get emails to schedule EM soon.

[fossil jewel]

lol ez clap for u

[cobalt siren]

yeah I'd give it a few days you'll be fine

also seems like if you're already interviewed the pipeline for scheduling is much shorter for em

have mine on wednesday

[west egret]

True last time for VO I literally got the email to schedule in a Saturday.

[late kestrel]

but... youre wrong... bottom line is 2nd year tc isnt going to be 160k lmao

[cobalt siren]

my recruiter confirmed my interviewer at 12am lmao

idk what bb is making these recruiters do

[west egret]

Yo chill

[wheat seal]

Ppl on blind say it’s 180k recurring cuz bonus is 100% always?

[west egret]

Just wait till y2 and when you find out whoever was wrong…they have to code in assembly

[wheat seal]

HFT is harder than Google interviews right?

[rain patio]

why?

[thick forge]

not a 2023 new grad (2024) but anyone wanna give me some insight into how bad the market is rn? 💀

[rain patio]

even if the market is bad, people still get offers

[vital meteor]

Yes

[late kestrel]

between raises and bonus youre not going to lose 20k between y1 and y2

[wheat seal]

I saw that HFT only ask Lc hard lol

Like two sigma questions I saw

[nocturne oriole]

bb aspiring quant gf and faang underperformer bf

i am looking for da first

[late kestrel]

it doesnt matter what you believe. people would be complaining online if they were making 20k less YoY. i havent seen that anywhere

[cobalt siren]

my gf is psych major rip

[rain patio]

Why would your tc ever go down

[late kestrel]

thats why im saying lol

[rain patio]

🤨

[cobalt siren]

cause of sign on bonus

[lone rapids]

Is there a recruiting email for roblox i can contact?

[rain patio]

But u get bonuses later, plus raise

[late kestrel]

but in this case bb standard offer has no sign on

[cobalt siren]

true

[wheat seal]

And refreshers if company chooses to. Ideally it shouldn’t but it happens

[cobalt siren]

mcdonalds swe >>>

[fossil jewel]

wendy's swe >>>

[cobalt siren]

coward

[wheat seal]

It’s about confidence

That’s all she’s saying

[cobalt siren]

it's about drive

[fossil jewel]

cant code cpp or cant jump to hft?

bc im sure bbg is mainly c++

[wheat seal]

If u say I’m not going to get it but I’ll do it anyways that’s bad mindset. U should be confident asf lol. But some swe are too cocky and overly arrogant to the point where they don’t want to admit they are wrong

[worthy sapphire]

Sry guys.what was the conclusion on 150K base😂😂

[vital meteor]

Breadlines tc

[cobalt siren]

long story don't worry about it

[rain patio]

Well if this was blind, whoever has higher tc would be right

LOL

#toxic

[fossil jewel]

i mean they can

idk where you got that 99% from

[wheat seal]

99% of college grads don’t make over a 100k though

Like considering all occupations

[rain patio]

How about if we just talk about cs students

Prob 50% make over 100k

[wheat seal]

I’d say probably just 20% of cs students

[wheat seal]

Nah that’s too high

[rain patio]

Legit?

Idk i dont have offer over 100k .
Mine is 93k so...

😦

[late kestrel]

yeah no this is way too high. youre talking ab new grad?

[rain patio]

Yea

[fossil jewel]

well you didnt do leetcode right?

[wheat seal]

I’d say 20%

[rain patio]

20% is correct?

[wheat seal]

Honestl maybe less tbh

Like 15%

[late kestrel]

dunno the exact number but probably closer to that

[wheat seal]

Most ppl are too lazy to try

[rain patio]

Wow much less than i thought

[wheat seal]

Most just wait till after college to look for a job

[cobalt siren]

i think we should all just rejoice that we're not doing investment banking

[rain patio]

Avg cs college grad is...? Prob 70k

[fossil jewel]

this server and other places with the loud minorities make it seem like its 50%

[cobalt siren]

touch grads lmao

i saw that

[fossil jewel]

we can touch grads too

[thick forge]

touch grads 😳

[fossil jewel]

[cobalt siren]

in this context this emote is gross

[bronze nymph]

😳

[fossil jewel]

i'd definitely believe that it is less

[fossil jewel]

better?

[wheat seal]

It’s probably like 10%

[fossil jewel]

ik not everyone is gonna live in HCOL areas

[wheat seal]

65k cs students every year

So 10% of that

[thick forge]

and rising

[rain patio]

Hard to tell honestly.
I mean the avg new grad cs student salary is 70k

[wheat seal]

I’d say like 6500 grads each year make 100k+

But now probably like 8,000 each year making 100k+

[thick forge]

probably, from the top colleges lol

[nocturne oriole]

yeah probably 85% of them are top schoolers

[wheat seal]

Nope I have like 130-140k tc in mid cost of living and am not from a top school, t100-t200

[thick forge]

the fundamental classes getting a big boom with all the new students

[thick forge]

congrats 🥳

[runic wind]

Wait but Zon gets like 10k interns every summer

90% conversion rate

[wheat seal]

I’d say there’s more now like 8k

I think 8k is fair

[rain patio]

Ok im getting depressed

Time to grind leet code

[compact obsidian]

im p sure msft hires a lot more than 1k

[wheat seal]

There is an inadequate supply though

Bro no ways it’s 30

I think max 8-10k. If we assume there’s 80k cs grads each year

[nocturne oriole]

whatever numbers you're pulling, you are ignoring the HUGE amount of demand in fortune 500 alone

i fully agree that at the top it's going to get fierce af tho

[cobalt siren]

it's only mcdonalds swe's at the top

[runic wind]

Yeah fortune 500 pays 120+ in HCOL

It's probably close to 20k new grads that get 100k+

[wheat seal]

Most F500 don’t pay 100k+ though and most don’t live in HCOL

[fallen fox]

i got resume rejected from mcdonalds

[nocturne oriole]

Mastercard offered me 110 base and 50 sign on in NYC lmaoo

[wheat seal]

Oh wow

[cobalt siren]

you're not good enough

[wheat seal]

Hm maybe it’s higher than

[nocturne oriole]

yeah the TC floors are going up for SWE

because tbh it is genuinely hard to find competent cs majors

[rain patio]

and competent cs majors = leetcode grinders?

[runic wind]

But for some reason
Faang isn't increasing all that much

[wheat seal]

Most just copy tutorials from start to finish on utube since they slacked off on all group projects and start looking when they graduated

[runic wind]

Quant offers are going crazy

[exotic lintel]

🥹

[cobalt siren]

c1 target hiring is 6k new grads this year lol

[runic wind]

Faang is still at 200kish
Has been for the last 5yrs

[nocturne oriole]

no, it's much more reasonable, things like "did you pay attention in class"

do you know what a stack is, an interface, OOP etc

[wheat seal]

That’s why I have a very hard time believing 30% of cs grads make 100k + since most slack off in uni

[nocturne oriole]

what is heap memory

[cobalt siren]

idk you tell me

[rain patio]

i find it hard to believe some students dont know stack, interface, and oop

[compact obsidian]

surely less than 70% of cs grads slack off in college

[wheat seal]

Ud be suprised lol

[nocturne oriole]

a lot of curriculums are very bad and students cheat

[rain patio]

Then what do they do in college

...

[wheat seal]

Nah I doubt it

[exotic lintel]

stack is first in first out
interface is the thing that a class can 'extends' from
OPP is Original Poster's penis

[wheat seal]

Most don’t do leetcode or personal projects

[thick forge]

same reason why u gotta stop trusting doctors soon 😂

[wheat seal]

And in group projects most don’t contribute unless ig ur from really top schools

Like T20-30

[rain patio]

Yea good luck doing that in my team. I would take your name off 🙂

[chilly burrow]

all most ppl can do is for loops 💀

[wheat seal]

And by slack off I don’t mean failing, I just mean doing the bare minimum and not trying to put in a lot of effort

[chilly burrow]

at least at my school

[rain patio]

ok that is too much;
I find that hard to believe

lol

[wheat seal]

Same tbh. And it’s because they haven’t put in the effort to do anything past that

[rain patio]

so how do these guys get jobs

[exotic lintel]

Nepotism

[wheat seal]

They spend looking for 6-8mths and work at a local company. Some don’t become swe and do something else

[cobalt siren]

living in the midwest

[chilly burrow]

like i mean most ppl at my school cant really make anything...

[rain patio]

even like the companies paying 70-80k they still look for these basic skills; such as stacks, oops, and interface.

It's impossible they dont know those basics

[cobalt siren]

weird I think my school is the opposite - we have people that are really smart but just work at local no name companies

[chilly burrow]

ok well i mean like they know cs fundamentals

[runic wind]

Stacks
Oops
Interfaces

[chilly burrow]

but cant apply them

[cobalt siren]

makes sense cause I go to a big state school in the midwest

[chilly burrow]

in any meaningful way

[exotic lintel]

i only have 1 friend like that, most smart go work at fang

[cobalt siren]

probably just depends on location

[rain patio]

ok now that sounds sad

[wheat seal]

It’s because they don’t put in any effort though

[rain patio]

I have a friend that graduated cs from city school NY and works as a cashier in supermarket

[wheat seal]

Yea but the avg cs student also doesn’t contribute to group projects

[cobalt siren]

Anyone know if atlassian negotiates?

[wheat seal]

I’ve heard even Top schools have the issue as well

Where ppl just don’t want to contribute as much to a project

I mean maybe I’m bias cuz my experience

[cobalt siren]

i wonder what bloombergs target hiring number is this year

[wheat seal]

Yea I agree. While loop and for each loop

[cobalt siren]

seems like a lot of people got interviews here

at least in this channel lol

[wheat seal]

I’m from 2022

[sonic coral]

Most of my NY friends couldn’t find jobs in the city and had to move out

Only me and one other friend managed to stay

[rain patio]

Thats me... im from nyc yet my offers are from LA and NC

[wheat seal]

Yea NYC doesn’t have a lot of headcount

[rain patio]

Im trying to negotiate with LA if i can do full remote

[wheat seal]

Also most college grads don’t want to relocate

That’s another reason why they don’t make 100k+

[cobalt siren]

what company?

[rain patio]

Its small company with 200 employees

I told u my tc is not high

😦

[cobalt siren]

ah ok

[runic wind]

His TC? 350k

[rain patio]

93k ........

[runic wind]

Impossible to survive on in LA

[cobalt siren]

anyone here wanna work in sf

[wheat seal]

Startup?

[cobalt siren]

was there for a few days and hated it idk why

[rain patio]

Kind of

[wheat seal]

What series

[rain patio]

I have few OAs i have to complete so...

[rain patio]

Oh no series. They have enough funding.

[wheat seal]

Yea my friends don’t want to

[fossil jewel]

go to school in nyc, staying in NYC (or kinda sticking with JC depending on team matching lol)

[sonic coral]

I feel ya man I almost had to move too

[rain patio]

Theyre huge asian company with branch in LA

[cobalt siren]

i guess anecdotally im trying to stay in columbus

[wheat seal]

They ipo?

[rain patio]

In their country yes

[wheat seal]

Oh cool

[sonic coral]

even nyc has to relocate most of the time unless you get lucky

[wheat seal]

TikTok?

[rain patio]

But their company value is

Only 1B

[thick forge]

Atlanta and texas still kinda there

[rain patio]

So idk

Whats 1B companies in US you guys know about

[fossil jewel]

cuny?

[wheat seal]

Revenue?

[rain patio]

No company stock market cap

[rain patio]

Yes

[wheat seal]

There’s a good amount of companies like that

Probably like 300

I made a list

[fossil jewel]

yeah though i've seen some cuny grads make it to faang