#2023_grads

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bold pier
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Got DP hard on phone, didn't even code the entire thing yet got VO. Just communicate nicely lol

young peak
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^ I'd normally not say this either but you gotta understand the economy rn

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why

half orbit
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where do i find company tagged questions?

half orbit
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how do i request the bot

austere grove
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I don’t doubt I can solve the lc easy they give me or whatever

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It’s just that they’re almost filled up

young peak
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You think the companies you're afraid of reneging are gonna go "Oh no, I don't wanna hurt Hachi's feelings uwu when I rescind his offer"?

austere grove
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Clearly

young peak
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then don't be stupid lmfao

austere grove
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Just tell them

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Quant is bad

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Cuz it is

solemn tinsel
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damn Yogi going in lol

austere grove
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The hours r long the work is boring the growth is bad

young peak
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They'll get back to you on a monday

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just send it monday

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Whens your deadline?

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Realistically you'll only get in by next week at the latest

austere grove
young peak
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naw Im fucking with you 4KEKW

austere grove
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It seems people get rejected on Saturday

young peak
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they'll give you time, but still hurrying can't hurt

austere grove
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Not rejected yet hopium

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Just accept then renege

young peak
austere grove
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Wait why

young peak
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It's an enigma man

austere grove
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Wtf

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Quant sucks

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Burn ur bridges with all quant firms

young peak
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even he doesn't know why kekw_recession_edition

austere grove
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That’s a good thing

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That’s a good thing

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It’s a quant firm

young peak
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they literally could not give a shit

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Some L3 reneging them doesn't hurt a billion dollar company in the slightest man

austere grove
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Hrt is barely giving out offers this year

young peak
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You're good enough to get into IMC, BB, Optiver and what else? Reneging ain't hurting you in the slightest

austere grove
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Also you don’t want to go to a t7 firm anyways

young peak
young peak
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what has been your progress with Cit?

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why

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Bro why BB > IMC? .-.

austere grove
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Ft headcount is bad at almost every quant place this year

young peak
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IMC is in chicago right

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I'm sure they can do something about getting you to NYC

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they have an office there

austere grove
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Yeah it might just be some legal thing

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Btw

young peak
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I switched Meta from Bay Area to NYC last year when they weren't letting people in nyc

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so I think its possible

austere grove
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A lot of satellite offices for quants are just there for regulatory reasons or some shut

young peak
austere grove
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I mean you can probably wfh in ur first year but may not be a good idea

young peak
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Please realize that BB is only giving you at MOST 220k this year. On the other hand IMC had an offer of around 300k . Also IMC is in a much lower COL area than BB...

young peak
austere grove
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Yeah it most certainly is

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Just bc bbg is ez af

young peak
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As a person that chose G over Cit, I can't say much ig but it's still a hard offer to pull out of

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200k? kekw_recession_edition

austere grove
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IMC is probably 45-55 hours a week like all other quant places

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And actual productive work

young peak
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base is gonna be 156-160k, then target bonus is 15% so it should be over 180k almost recurring excluding sign on. They don't give stock fyi

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Ah fuck you're a woman, sorry didn't realize

austere grove
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Also you have to realize ..

young peak
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yeah then stay away from quant lmfao

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...

austere grove
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Ur offer is front loaded as fuck

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It’s gonna take years to make it back to your first year tc

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Maybe 2-3

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It’s gonna be hard to hop to another quant place btw

young peak
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One thing for women I think is choosing a non finance adjacent sector

austere grove
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Most firms don’t want to deal with a non compete

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For super junior devs

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Yeah true

young peak
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unless you join a game dev company like Blizzard kekw_recession_edition

austere grove
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Starting out in quant seems alright just to take the signing bonus and run

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But there could be a long clawback

young peak
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I agree

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How long are the golden handcuffs staying on at IMC?

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2 years?

austere grove
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Wow

young peak
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At BB it'll be 24 months

austere grove
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Nah citadel is 2 years

young peak
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and Citadel it's 2 years too

austere grove
young peak
austere grove
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Wtf

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For 2 years??

young peak
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Here lemme pull up the offer

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24 months thanos

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yeah its 24 months

austere grove
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110k signing bonus??

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55/yr

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That seems like a ton for Bloomberg

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Wtf

young peak
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I got a 300k offer

austere grove
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Bbg is 0 work

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You can sleepwalk those 2 years

young peak
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I'm sure you all know about the prorated target bonus too

austere grove
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My friend there barely codes and his manager loves him

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He’s probably getting full bonus

young peak
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@queen valve Kinda cracked wtf

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Take my 🧨

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where is Netflix gonna be based if you take the offer?

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yikes

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why tf is your bf in nyc

austere grove
young peak
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tell him to join IMC and if he can't skill issue tbh

austere grove
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I’m gonna jump if I’m forced to go to cali

young peak
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Being asian for one is rough

austere grove
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This is the best place to be Asian

young peak
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I'm a 6'1 200lb dude so I'm okay, but my wife is like 5'6

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all the stories about crazy people throwing acid and beating asian women up yknow

austere grove
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Oh

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Yeah that kinda sucks

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But it’s a city of 8 million people

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You have to remember how massive it is

loud olive
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Most ppl feel safer in nyc compare to sf

austere grove
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Yeah lmao

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The homeless problem isn’t that big here

loud olive
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Cuz there’s more ppl walking around in nyc

austere grove
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It seems pretty bad in SF

loud olive
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Sf is bad with homelessness

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South Bay is the best part of California (living wise)

young peak
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you asian too?

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nyc gonna be rough icl

true plank
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most metro areas have a homeless problem lmfao

young peak
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wife works in finance too lmfao

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Hachi and I are just living the same life kekw_recession_edition

austere grove
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@young peak wait maybe this is rude to ask but how old are you

young peak
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Cracked SWEs living with cracked stock/quant gods

austere grove
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Ur married chad

young peak
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just turned 23 this year too

true plank
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? i thought you didn't like nyc

young peak
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I got good apt suggestions for NYC since I was also originally going to BB

true plank
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oooh

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partner is there

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long distance is ass yeah

young peak
austere grove
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@true plank ur getting married soon too right chad

young peak
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LD makes you realize your priorities tbh

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where he living tho

young peak
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LIC and Astorio are great

austere grove
true plank
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Any long islanders in the house?

young peak
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I mean y'all can offer fucking great places with your combined TCs

austere grove
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Fuck it’s a downgrade tho, I was planning on living in TriBeCa or something a month ago

young peak
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@queen valve how long have y'all been together?

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is he older?

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both asian? just curious lmfao

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gotcha

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yeah just make sure you have a convo about finances

austere grove
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Is he Eastern European MonkaHmm

young peak
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More money == More convo is what I felt. She makes more than me, I make a lot too so it's something you either just shove into one account and never talk again or if thats not comfy yet then a convo is a must

young peak
true plank
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the finances convo was an interesting one since my partner won't be making nearly as much as me

austere grove
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I might know him that’s why

young peak
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But is he tho kermit_think

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we just share one account for everything

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makes keeping finances so much easier for us

true plank
young peak
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but its a comfort thing too so unless you're at that step

true plank
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we're most likely gonna follow the same model as well

young peak
true plank
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if it ain't broke..

peak ferry
young peak
austere grove
young peak
peak ferry
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bruh I feel old as fuck now given some friends have gotten married HideThePain

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I’m not a real adult yet wtf how are people married

true plank
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one of my friends got married for FAFSA and got 6.6k return every sem..

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it was crazy

austere grove
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Whatever life’s a marathon

young peak
young peak
austere grove
young peak
austere grove
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Gets even smaller if u only consider cuffed dudes

young peak
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dating

austere grove
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Handcuffed

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To another person

young peak
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wait hachi

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where are you from?

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texas by any chance?

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lmfao same again

crude saffron
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This is an interesting conversation

young peak
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Hachi really trying to speed run the GC process

true plank
young peak
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I ask because I know a guy who works in Morgan Stanley as a quant. He dates an asian girl that graduates this year, and is in tech. He's in NYC living in manhattan

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...

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idk seemed oddly similar

austere grove
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MonkaHmm ik a white guy at JS with an Asian gf

true plank
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hmmmmmm

young peak
peak ferry
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jokes I’m sure 4KEKW

true plank
young peak
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always the shortest girls too tho

crude saffron
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It is the maximum likelihood outcome conditioned on being different races

true plank
peak ferry
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I need to get a quant sugar mama brb

young peak
true plank
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if i was marrying for money i already fucked up

austere grove
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@crude saffron yo why is JS so white

true plank
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my ex was loaded

young peak
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idk about dating a tech bro that works less than 30 hours

peak ferry
true plank
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i feel like finance in general is quite white, idk why JS would be an exception

austere grove
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JS is the exception I feel

peak ferry
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I woke up hungover like 30 minutes ago at 8pm in an unfurnished apt and now I need to go get ibuprofen 4KEKW

true plank
young peak
peak ferry
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Idk city actually seems v nice so far

runic wind
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Wait what LinkedIn post

true plank
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i feel like if i attached a picture to my resume and applied for fintech i would get autorejected

runic wind
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I think traders are still mostly white

young peak
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Crying CEO?

runic wind
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But QRs are all Asian

austere grove
austere grove
runic wind
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But yeah pretty stereotypical

austere grove
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I feel like this isn’t the case but whatever lol

young peak
peak ferry
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Any recs? kekw

rain patio
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so if I join quant ill get an asian gf? yo lets go monke

crude saffron
runic wind
austere grove
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Oh nvm

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Then

austere grove
young peak
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And yeah all of em are white man except for the devs

wheat seal
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Is there any black people in quant?

austere grove
true plank
austere grove
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Like a technical one

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Lmao

true plank
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I'm ngl

peak ferry
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don’t need any drink recommendations, 36 hr in and my budget has been steamrolled 4KEKW

young peak
true plank
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first video interview it's wraps

austere grove
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Yeah they’re all Asian dudes

true plank
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sheesh ..

young peak
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@queen valve Yeah Hachi I gotta say, I gave pretty shit advise now that I got context

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just join BB and carry on lmao

true plank
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maybe if i publish my NLP paper SIG will look past my skin color

young peak
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and he made other black friends there and they're all equally good looking

peak ferry
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fucking same bro that’s how I ended up in Chicago

runic wind
true plank
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Bob unironically more handsome

young peak
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She got Netflix WazowskiStare

peak ferry
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Goddamn that’s far out gotta make a trip for it

earnest warrenBOT
peak ferry
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Oh right I saw that too smh

true plank
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bruh

young peak
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OOD, projects, work flow questions

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all 3 you need

runic wind
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Like

peak ferry
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0 big tech offers sadge

runic wind
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Netflix
WazowskiStare

true plank
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it's practically no big tech clueless

young peak
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what happened with other tech places?

peak ferry
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Tfw negative big tech offers

young peak
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also why are these finance places so hungry for you lmao

runic wind
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Is haichi a quant Chad

young peak
runic wind
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That covers
Like all of them
WazowskiStare

peak ferry
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LOL I FEEL THIS IN MY BONES

young peak
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are you even from a chicago based college lmfao

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this tbh

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skill issue if he can't

true plank
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dw i feel that, right now life is preventing me from travelling to Korea

runic wind
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Wait you're ditching quant offers for N?

true plank
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it's kinda crazy

runic wind
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Bb WazowskiStare

young peak
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come with us

runic wind
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Why tho
Why
Tell me why

young peak
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msft/meta?

true plank
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i bought my ticket but getting my passport renewed has been the biggest pain in the ass

runic wind
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That's like
Leaving 100K+ on the table

austere grove
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No way

true plank
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i bought everything, it's a race against time to get my passport in order

wheat seal
young peak
runic wind
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Just spend that 100K on flights

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Business class every weekend

young peak
true plank
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in huh?

peak ferry
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damn what’s with the Chicago hate, so far I like it here copium

runic wind
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+1 Chicago is great

young peak
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Seattle so far has been so amazing

runic wind
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But cheap Riverview apartments

peak ferry
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Fall weather has been fucking great ngl

young peak
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Gotta say bois, get on the other side rq because the tech life is amazing

runic wind
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Try getting a river view apartment in NYC

wheat seal
peak ferry
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Homeless fellows I’ve met in Chicago have actually been rather nice compared to the Bay Area

young peak
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Alright I'mma hop off bois

runic wind
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Also jazz

young peak
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Keep up the good work prayge

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make sure y'all touch grass

wheat seal
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Should I wake up at 6am daily to go to gym?

true plank
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as opposed to?

wheat seal
peak ferry
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Low key also looking forward to a real winter but I’m guessing that gets old. Also need to get real winter gear 4KEKW

wheat seal
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Like even during work week

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Waking up at 6am

true plank
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honestly i like going at night, showering and then passing out

peak ferry
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ic

true plank
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dude I'll be out for like, 9 hours

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it's crazy

wheat seal
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I wish I moved in onni apartments in Seattle. They have squat rack inside

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Maybe deadlift platform soon

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Onni?

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Like what

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The management is solid

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It’s just expensive as hell lol

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Haven’t heard anything like that

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Yea to start

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That’s not even the total

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With everything it’ll be like 3200-3300 minimum

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A month rent

peak ferry
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bruh are there no good gyms near by? Doesn’t sound worth

wheat seal
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Yea there are good gyms

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It’s just annoying to walk 15min

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At night

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I’m with traffic

peak ferry
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that’s not v near

wheat seal
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Honestly onni is the only good one

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All the other apartments are luxury but not nearly as good

peak ferry
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15min is like the max I’d regularly walk and thats begrudgingly

wheat seal
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That’s why I feel like if I go in the AM

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I’ll be better off

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But it’s just tiring

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Also is it really realistic to maintain?

peak ferry
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my high IQ ass signed a lease 15min from work and I already and reconsidering my choices rofl — it’s okay enough tho and apt itself is v nice

wheat seal
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SLU is safe tbh to walk at night

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Never had anything strange happen

peak ferry
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I’m in Chicago m8 4KEKW

peak ferry
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Reminds me I need to go out before shit closes

wheat seal
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Mines 24/7

surreal estuary
wheat seal
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But yea Onni apt in seattle also has multiple indoor swimming pools

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An indoor basketball court

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Squat rack

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And soon a deadlift platform

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It’s pretty nuts. I’ll move there maybe eventually

peak ferry
wheat seal
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Like 400sq ft studio would be $2700-2800/mth including everything

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At onni

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Rn I’m paying 2600 for 550 sq ft studio

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But not at onni

peak ferry
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also Lincoln park— idk squat about the area tho I landed like <36hr ago rofl

peak ferry
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somehow some of the smartest folk I know failed Akuna

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U copped better tho so no worries 4KEKW

true plank
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interviews are simply broken

wheat seal
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Did u see if optiver could give you remote option

echo finch
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hayden in grad channel ???

true plank
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i like it so much more than intern chat..

echo finch
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so truesies

wheat seal
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So none of their engineers are remote?

teal jackal
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truly built diff

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idc tbh what my partners career is

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as long as its not the same as mine

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assuming anyone ever loves me lmao

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(not happening lmaoooooooooooo)

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same

teal jackal
hexed moth
teal jackal
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i feel like ill be single forever lmao

hexed moth
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u wont

teal jackal
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i have an unlovable personality

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which is a skill issue on my part

hexed moth
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i mean if u tell yourself that maybe

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get good job so u can get into therapy lmao

teal jackal
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tbh being in a relationship is not a priority rn

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i have good personal goals

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but i feel like eventually ill feel lonely

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probably once i enter full adulthood ill start feeling lonely

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when im in a career

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and no longer in college surrounded by a community setting

hexed moth
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really

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i feel like a lot of people that's the opposite

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they dont meet more people once they graduate

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outside of like work

teal jackal
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i mean that itll be harder

vital meteor
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Harder to meet people after grad

teal jackal
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i mean that the community feeling will be gone after graduation

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i feel like affter graduating is when ill finally feel lonely

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and realize "fuck i cant solo my way through life"

vital meteor
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You cant just go up to people and ask about random bs like hw

teal jackal
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im gonna really miss college when i leave

hexed moth
teal jackal
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i hate college sometimes but overall i realize that im counting the days until a big phase of my life is over

hexed moth
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oh im so over college

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i cannot wait to ghost everyone from my uni

teal jackal
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and from there, everything, from friends, life path, recreational activities, will be 100% on my own for me to figure out

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i also have level 2 autism so ive always struggled with self-identity and figuring things out(im always late to figuring out things)

hexed moth
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you'll figure things out dude

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life isn't a race

vital meteor
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Anyways theres always 2d

hexed moth
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ya u can always rely on marin from my dress up darling

vital meteor
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League of legends top laner marin?

teal jackal
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so tru

hexed moth
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^

vital meteor
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Is she single

hexed moth
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yes

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actually no shes my gf 🙂

uncut umbra
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has anyone has an issue with applying to waymo on chrome?

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it's just in a permanent submitting loop

split plaza
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Waymo has new grad?

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Or is it just a position without YoE requirements

teal jackal
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man i love game dev tbh

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im really happy about my capstone project

uncut umbra
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also

teal jackal
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"An annoying part of Modern Warfare 2, where the host decides to be a jackass and leave the game, leaving you and the other players suspended at your positions, awaiting the dreadful migration to end. In other words, it's the worst part of MW2." - Urban Dictionary definition for Host Migration

uncut umbra
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broke 400 apps with waymo finally

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wake up babe new nickname just dropped

lone rapids
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How r u finding 400+ places ?

austere grove
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you gotta go out and meet people to not be lonely lmao

peak ferry
errant karma
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Paypal is in huge trouble

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Trending on Twitter

peak ferry
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Very believable PayPal

austere grove
peak ferry
errant karma
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Well this accident will cost them dearly

peak ferry
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cost em what exactly tho?

austere grove
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that makes no sense

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i get missing a 0 or something on some number

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how do yu get it into prod tho

wheat seal
peak ferry
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yea no ofc it’s weasel speak, and not particularly believable either

austere grove
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they just had too much backlasha nd backtracked

teal jackal
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FACTS BRO

dusty frost
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do ppl know for netflix final@how deep the system design is? is it like create a system and the architecture

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but no need to do the back of envelope calculation?

uncut umbra
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companies still around 250 I think

errant karma
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Imagine paypal devs coming in on Monday and seeing 20,000 accounts deleted

nocturne oriole
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@gleaming fable @dense blaze

autumn ridge
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That policy was so strange to me when I read it on HN. Like what was even the purpose? To deter via fines? I don't get how it even was legal

nocturne oriole
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Wrong channel, meant fulltimers kekw_recession_edition

autumn ridge
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LOL

echo finch
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why is fulltimers channel a thing

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dont they have lives

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why would they be here

autumn ridge
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Where are we suppose to go after?

nocturne oriole
peak ferry
autumn ridge
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It's like being a super senior in college/hs

echo finch
nocturne oriole
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Wow how dare u be so ungrateful i am here to provide valuable career advice for u to follow in my footsteps

echo finch
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if ur over the age of 24 and u still use this app ur basically a predator

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joke btw

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to be clear

peak ferry
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no it’s factual tbh getting ready for the fbi to bust down my door

echo finch
peak ferry
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joking that I’m a predator

errant karma
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Full time channel is where I will retire to

echo finch
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mr sentientskillet this is the second time u have taken my messages much too seriously

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i like ur pfp also :)

peak ferry
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I’m joking too lol dw

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college raccoon very cool

echo finch
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i would hope hes in college

peak ferry
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In its native habitat on a trash can

echo finch
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if hes younger u could catch a case

teal jackal
runic wind
echo finch
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BESTIE

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i love when my besties are here

uncut umbra
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is it possible to merge two accounts together? trying to use an existing codesignal for seatgeek but they're on a separate email

wheat seal
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Just reapply again with different email that u want to use

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Or I could be wrong

uncut umbra
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I mean sure but it would suck

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I might just retake it and say fuck it

icy bough
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has anyone successfully negotiated with Bloomberg with a lower offer?

vital meteor
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Yea

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They gave me the lower tc

icy bough
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i mean with a lower competitive offer

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ohnok, im considering doing it but not sure if there’s any risk of getting my offer rescinded

vital meteor
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No good company will rescind due to negotiation

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I wouldnt worry about it

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Worst case they say no

nimble tinsel
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anyone knows what the max TC BB can offer is

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included all bonus?

gleaming fable
gleaming fable
vital meteor
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I've seen similar complaints made towards managers of all races lol

foggy perch
vast rock
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Yall can someone point me somewhere that i can grind/review OS and cpp related knowledge?

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Need it for hft interviews

marsh sand
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Any list of London, UK openings?

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can't barely find anything here

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how u doin man

timber rock
hoary kraken
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I'm receiving reminder for expedia online Strength Based Assessment but never actually got the test link. Did this happen with anybody else?

slender apex
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Anyone here done a karat interview before? Could I dm

clever orbit
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make sure yk graph questions

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bfs/dfs on 2-d matrix and using adjacency matrix

teal jackal
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what tf is the difference between the screening interview, the onsite, and the final
why do we need 6 hours of cumulative interviews

teal jackal
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overall

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why does new grad job search need 6 cumulative hours of interviewing for each company

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amazon was 45 mins and done

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kinda based, but it is problematic since amazon sucks anyways

wheat seal
#

Oh u mean intern?

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Intern is 1x45?

teal jackal
#

Yeah

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So ez

teal jackal
#

making an indie game seems really tough tbh

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now i understand why humble bundles come with like 700 games

uncut umbra
#

I fucking hate codesignal

nocturne oriole
clever orbit
#

really

nocturne oriole
#

The only times i got dp probs in interviews was karat

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Well actually some other interviews

clever orbit
#

fucc i didnt know that I got a redo tommorow

nocturne oriole
#

Expedia and that health startup that begins with an F

clever orbit
#

ngl i cba if i get a dp im fuccing off

nocturne oriole
#

I forget the name

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In nyc

nocturne oriole
#

I wouldnt focus a lot on dp

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But for karat alone its good

clever orbit
#

yh sure

floral plank
#

grooking the coding interview dp section has been pretty useful

uncut umbra
#

had a nonproctored codesignal and question 4 was an n^2 algo that I got quickly, but timed out. however, the limits of the problem are 10^5 by 10^5. I tested it out on 10^6 by 10^6 and my algo computed in less than a second, but it says there's a TLE. I want to perish

nocturne oriole
#

Yes it’s fantastic

old smelt
late kestrel
#

good thing they decided not to start interviewing yet then 🙂

uncut umbra
old smelt
#

Always either hashmap, binary search, or some optimization

nocturne oriole
#

Random but I really liked the mission tbh and it seemed like engineering talent was high but I have learned that something like that is prob better when ur a Senior imo

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Cuz at that point u have already grown and u have a better idea on filtering and learning about companies

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Since a lot of so called altruistic or mission based startups are still just trying to make $ or the execs pocket a ton anyways, are corrupt etc

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The engineers i talked to there just seemed like regular, not especially passionate

teal jackal
#

i remember there was a convo here earlier about forward health

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it was all about drinking the koolaid

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and how everyone at forward is expected to be brainwashed with "we do it for the purpose"

tardy geode
tired hollow
#

Yeah, Roblox usually asks LC tagged

fossil jewel
#

finna review it for bbg's vo

night magnet
#

Roblox was not

teal jackal
#

or the dedicated grokking dp guide

uncut umbra
floral plank
#

samsara seems to have responded to no one

teal jackal
floral plank
teal jackal
#

zmakes sesne

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same

winter loom
#

Poll— amazon Seattle for 180 of Bloomberg nyc for 215 first year ? I want to stay in nyc so I’m leaning Bloomberg but curious to know whether career progression is gonna hurt bc of it

shrewd ocean
#

i mean u can always switch after a yr or so

small mountain
#

bloomberg > amazon

wheat seal
#

It’s standard

loud olive
#

What’s recurring then?

wheat seal
#

Can’t negotiate ng

wheat seal
autumn ridge
peak ferry
#

Amazon TC is basically flat, the mix just changes from sign to vesting

wheat seal
#

U don’t know what team or work ull get at amazon

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It’s roulette

autumn ridge
#

That's true but same goes for BB you don't get hired on too a team but they have a training process

peak ferry
#

If u like nyc that would be my main factor tbh

wheat seal
#

So less risky

loud olive
#

Seattle weather can be brutal

wheat seal
#

Only benefit of Seattle is that it feels like a college campus

autumn ridge
#

I don't know much about layoffs/pip at BB but definitely safer. My opinion though is that the vast majority of people if you work hard will be fine at Amazon

wheat seal
lunar hatch
#

DoorDash vs Bloomberg vs 2sigma(hypothetically)?

wheat seal
#

It’s not affected even by a percent

autumn ridge
#

Yeah I meant safer in terms of layoff/pip not stock price

wheat seal
#

It’s private company

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Ik I was just saying it’s a private company that isn’t affected by current recession in the slightest

#

Also better culture on average

#

I’d def choose BB

#

155k base in nyc is amazing

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Definitely won’t struggle

shrewd ocean
#

its alr

lunar hatch
#

Long term would like to stay in tech, but def okay with hft short term

loud olive
#

Why doesn’t bb give stock btw?

wheat seal
small mountain
#

they dont have stock

autumn ridge
#

I don't think they ever plan on going public so it wouldn't make sense

loud olive
#

Oh okay

wheat seal
#

Mongodb is top tier too I’d say

#

Barely any nyc companies that will pay 155k base in nyc

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And just live in queens or Brooklyn

autumn ridge
#

You have to take into account the RSU's when comparing offers though if the company is public. Obviously you have more volatility and with how things have been lately BB all cash looks a lot more attractive but you would've missed out on a lot of stock growth over the past 10 years for example at basically any tech company

split plaza
autumn ridge
#

Thoughts on Snap LA vs BB NYC?

wheat seal
#

I wouldn’t join snap

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Rn

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At least

lunar hatch
small mountain
#

doordash

wheat seal
autumn ridge
#

Yeah I did

wheat seal
#

Congrats

autumn ridge
#

ty ty

wheat seal
#

Just take that lol

#

Don’t even bother with a company that did layoffs now

autumn ridge
#

yeah I just got the base offer so I'm trying to get at least one other offer so I can negotiate it up

wheat seal
#

Job security is #1

autumn ridge
#

I've never lived in NYC so I'm nervous about having to move to the city. Also loved interning at Snap and my team and really like LA but I know logically it would be way safer

#

Also haven't gotten Snap offer yet but I'm suppose to hear back this week

wheat seal
#

It’d be different 3 yrs ago

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At least for me I wouldn’t feel comfortable joining a company that just went through layoffs

fossil jewel
#

honestly if you know how to live within your means 100k+ is enough for a decent living

wheat seal
fossil jewel
#

i was raised in bk with family making wayy less

wheat seal
#

Don’t need a car either

shrewd ocean
wheat seal
#

Besides faang

shrewd ocean
#

faang+

wheat seal
#

So it’s more than alr then

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If faang+ is paying that

shrewd ocean
#

ya its pretty good actually

prime palm
fossil jewel
#

issue with faang is the instability we're seeing

shrewd ocean
#

was just thinking nyc is super expensive

fossil jewel
#

nyc is expensive sure, but it all depends on where you live

modern socket
#

bruh

fossil jewel
#

regardless of where, 155k base is more than enough

autumn ridge
#

I mean it is expensive and even if you make 155k. Like I have a fiance and a dog and from the little I've looked so far everything we could afford is about a 25 min commute to manhattan.

#

Like obviously you can make it work on that salary but you might be more comfertable in a different city at a similar comp depending on what is important to you

fossil jewel
#

depending on your needs you might decide if you're okay with a longer commute

shrewd ocean
#

lol this is actually so wrong

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i live in texas

autumn ridge
#

That's just bc COL calculator way over index on ability to purchase a home

shrewd ocean
#

specify then

autumn ridge
#

And are pecentaged based and don't account for the difference in saving 10% of 80k vs 10% of 200k

wheat seal
#

Which is pretty good

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For 155k base

shrewd ocean
#

is bklyn a nice place to live tho

wheat seal
#

Yea it is

fossil jewel
#

ye some areas are nice

wheat seal
#

It’s been gentrified

night magnet
#

Good

fossil jewel
#

manhattan be expensive

night magnet
prime palm
#

it not that serious

fossil jewel
night magnet
winter loom
#

Would y’all say bb is a career hit if I wanna bounce into faang tech tho?

prime palm
#

thanks baby

fossil jewel
#

i mean you can

prime palm
#

im doing the opposite lul

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fb => bloomberg

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(if i get offer)

#

and hoping to bounce back to like g/fb later on

fossil jewel
#

i see people at smaller places get into faang

shrewd ocean
#

heard a lot of google nyc office is ex bloom

fossil jewel
#

had some ppl from jpm get into meta

winter loom
prime palm
#

bloomberg has the upside of helping you get into hfts too

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if you care about cit / js / hrt

autumn ridge
#

I don’t think so like maybe it might be slightly less regarded then other FAANG but it’s more then enough to get you past resume screen and at that point is just down to passing the interview loop

prime palm
#

it's not like bloomberg is a bad offer

wheat seal
prime palm
#

it's like 190k in nyc

late kestrel
wheat seal
#

Iike at that point, u just need to interview the person and see

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How’s that possible

#

Isn’t the purpose of nerd wallet col adjustment

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Noooo lol

sonic coral
wheat seal
#

SF has more homeless and crime and more expensive

shrewd ocean
#

holy shit sf and manhattan r ridiculous col

wheat seal
#

I’d take Seattle any day over sf

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But nyc is better than both

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By leagues

static moth
#

i need friends in nyc next year sadge

wheat seal
#

Sf has all the problems of nyc and Seattle basically except worse

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Seattle feels like a college campus basically and there’s some things to do. But not a whole lot. Like Seattle doesn’t even have a mall

#

Nyc has a lot more to do, more diversity, better scene for virtually everything

sonic coral
#

Yeah all the nightlife is concentrated in cap hill

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Whereas in nyc you have nightlife literally everywhere

wheat seal
#

Same lol

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So u kept the same pay

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Oh so they just saw sf and Seattle both as hcol

#

After using nerd wallet?

sonic coral
wheat seal
#

Then why’d u mention col

#

Is that ADP?

wheat seal
prime palm
#

I played sea of thieves @tawdry skiff

winter loom
#

seattle 180k is waaay more than nyc 200k

#

thought it'd be about the same 💀

wheat seal
#

Why’d u use nerd wallet then

teal jackal
#

I am suffering

wheat seal
sonic coral
#

It’s more yes

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But not wayyyyy more

nocturne oriole
#

Not wayyy like said above

wheat seal
winter loom
#

yeah way better in brooklyn than manhattan

wheat seal
#

If u wanna live in manhattan it’s a different story

shrewd ocean
#

seattle 180 is brooklyn 208

sonic coral
#

Arguably queens is king for col

late kestrel
#

yeah this is why i said you need to take that col calc with a grain of salt. if you are better than your avg american with money things are a lot closer

nocturne oriole
#

It’s not about what u “can” find but what u get for some $. If u want good location near office and good sq footage etc then those are ur numbers

shrewd ocean
#

why is manhattan so expensive?

sonic coral
wheat seal
#

It’s a 30 minute commute

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Basically

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Which isn’t bad at all

nocturne oriole
#

I know but i have exceptionally high standards for a commute. 10 min walk or bust

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I can walk 10 min and get free food, it’s a great life lol

wheat seal
#

Idk id be much happier paying less than 2k for rent and saving a ton

nocturne oriole
#

I have lived in nyc as well, there are plenty of great spots and u can just work remote which makes this all moot. But the root of this convo is the 180 seattle vs 200 nyc comparison, which seems very fair tbh

#

Somewhat equivalent

night magnet
dusky plover
#

ooooga 🐒 boooga 🐒 oook ook 🐒 oooooook 🐒

night magnet
#

I feel like all in it’s close to 40%

nocturne oriole
#

Nyc fucks u in other ways because of the amazing fuckin life there food museums etc, but that’s on YOU to control ur spending

wheat seal
night magnet
#

A good calculator does ya

#

True

nocturne oriole
#

Seattle takes about 25% in taxes at end of day. I think nyc 35 to 40%

sonic coral
late kestrel
sonic coral
#

Many parts of the outer boroughs are super walkable with tons of amazing bars / food spots

nocturne oriole
#

I am referring to walking distance from ur tech office

#

Free food

wheat seal
#

I mean if u can save 2k on rent then I think ur fine

sonic coral
#

Well you can still get stuff outside your office for lunch and not live near your office

wheat seal
#

U can buy all organic food and eat great

nocturne oriole
#

This is prob better yeah

#

I get it tho it’s fair just priorities

#

Tailoring the new grad experience to office life is surprisingly awesome

#

My experience at least

#

Full remote woulda wrecked me

wheat seal
#

What company are u at that location doesn’t matter @reef kettle

#

Palantir pays universal?

#

That’s really odd

#

It’s remote?

nocturne oriole
#

I could give u a laundry list of perks but the best ones imo are free food, gym, a 401k match

fossil jewel
#

there's some hidden gems that are cheap

nocturne oriole
#

If it’s nyc good luck finding good mexican food kekw_recession_edition

fossil jewel
wheat seal
#

U had google internship?

fossil jewel
#

brooklyn or queens

wheat seal
#

Why’d u leave

nocturne oriole
#

Im mexican it was a regular topic of convo with mex friends the east coast is supremely weak on mex food

#

The ingredients alone are not up to par

fossil jewel
#

yeah thats fair

wheat seal
#

What’s odd is in Seattle I barely see any Hispanic

#

I have maybe seen 1

fossil jewel
#

but queens got pretty good food places

nocturne oriole
#

Not a knock on the quality of nyc food tho, it’s easily best overall in country

#

Hands down

#

Haters are wrong

fossil jewel
#

nyc got options

wheat seal
#

@tawdry skiff are u a recent grad?

rain patio
#

how long does it take to hear back after decomp and learning round from palantir

nocturne oriole
#

Growing up as an nyc dominican is one of the best food experiences tho yeah

#

Yes PR the same probably

foggy perch
#

free food = more money tho

nocturne oriole
#

(I am not dominican, just friends and the food i had)

rain patio
wheat seal
#

Just bring ur own salt

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And mrs dash

loud olive
#

Free food at companies is honestly an underrated factor when it comes to recruiting

fossil jewel
#

jpm didnt have free food but it was cheap

#

plate of salmon was $8

rain patio
#

Dnt mfers got Michelle star chefs or something

#

How could they mess up seasoning with salt

fossil jewel
#

i hear google nyc got good food

cold aurora
#

Do you guys(who graduate in May 2023) apply for summer internships? Or do you only apply for full time jobs?

wheat seal
timber rock
#

Mostly just ft

wheat seal
#

Unless u graduate in December 2023, it’s unlikely ull get internship

lament summit
#

@pale kettle hey whats ur timeline for pin offer?

hasty birch
#

Which ones?

wary quest
#

Hey guys do you think it’s ok to reapply to a company you bombed their OA with another mail to get another chance?

wary quest
#

Thanks by the way

wheat seal
#

I mean u could try

grizzled bronze
wheat seal
#

I mean it’s really easy to, u can only change ur resume so much

#

U have to put ur name and university and they easily can see geolocation where you applied from, and projects u put even

vital meteor
#

Yep I had to make a new fake identity and change my legal name for it to work

sonic coral
lament summit
#

hes not John

fossil jewel
#

he made a new identity so im guessing its john

autumn ridge
#

I tried this a bunch of places once i got a better code signal score and it didn’t work any where lol

vital meteor
#

Is grinding to get citadel even worth

grizzled bronze
nocturne oriole
vital meteor
#

Most companies feel like side grades now except for like Netflix and hfts

uncut umbra
vital meteor
#

Well I'm just thinking about my next step

uncut umbra
#

has anyone else stopped caring about tc and focusing instead on having a job?

vital meteor
#

Moving to another faang wont be much of an upgrade

autumn ridge
# vital meteor Is grinding to get citadel even worth

You can look at levels.fyi and decide for yourself. I think a lot of times people use “worth it” to kind of gloss over the effort required to get somewhere. It a lot easier to say something isn’t worth it vs admitting you aren’t able to put in the amount of effort or capable of reaching whatever thing. You can even see those kind of takes all the time in people discussing regular FAANG

vital meteor
#

Tf how did my name change

#

usually tc isnt guaranteed thou right, some of it will be monopoly money

#

ill just join @dusty basin startup

#

yea i notice this alot in linkedin hmm

fossil jewel
#

people job hop all the time

#

you're not bound to stay at the same place if you dont want to

glass kraken
#

do u know the numbers I'm curious

uncut umbra
#

500 apps reached

#

thank you lockheed martin

cold aurora
#

Does anyone consider shifting graduation date from may 2023 to December 2023 to try to get into faang company if you won’t be able to this semester??

uncut umbra
#

not trying to pay 30k more to avoid that

#

I'll just job hop worst case

cold aurora
#

Are you still gonna apply for new grad, or for roles with some experience required?

uncut umbra
#

new grad

dusky plover
#

@cold aurora youre better off graduating early so u wont have school that will get in the way of the ng grind

azure zephyr
#

doordash oa was actually ridiculous lmao

#

two LC hards

#

i gave up tbh

#

couldn't figure out why my solution wouldnt work for a dp problem

#

so only got 7/14 on one & 10/14 on the other

wheat seal
azure zephyr
#

yeah whatever i didnt want to be stuck in their wlb hell anyways (copium)

old vector
#

does atlassian ask leetcode hards

wheat seal
vast rock
#

Can someone tell me the phone and vo difference between HRT algo eng and core swe?

#

I know oa is diff thats fine

#

But idk which one i would have a better chance at

teal jackal
#

im makin lasagna for dinner rn

#

im hyped

#

not sure why i replied

#

i think i left the chat open by accident

cold aurora
teal jackal
#

i want free food, dgaf about the ping pong table tbh

primal pike
#

most faangs hire new grads for next years so I don't get the point of graduating early in many cases

#

like most people could delay grad by 6 months and still apply for new grad

primal pike
#

Never taking calc 3 again

#

you could also be unemployed for 6 months

#

i guess

#

i definitely dont wanna delay my grad in purpose tho

#

as Ive a return offer already

cold aurora
primal pike
#

$800 a class

#

some of yall are paying like 3k a class or smth

teal jackal
#

just hop

#

1 YoE is an advantage

rain patio
#

Did anyone do IXL hackerrank?

teal jackal
#

and for FAANG level university hiring, they hire for up to 12 months past grad

rain patio
#

Just finished it and it was kind of doable

cold aurora
#

Or maybe getting a masters could be an option. You would have 2 more summers to get summer internships and return offers consequently

wheat seal
#

And then still apply to job postings now

cold aurora
#

Did you manage to get good summer internship because of this?

wheat seal
nova vale
#

This is very true too

#

Imagine if you had done an MS to intern at Facebook

#

and now you're 💀

cold aurora
teal jackal
wheat seal
#

High 700 is fine enough tho

#

Mostly matters about resume after that

wheat seal
#

Or if u don’t care about how prestigious ur company is

#

And just want something decent. That’s why I asked if u care if u got GM or ADP or even JPM

hexed moth
#

go get it y'all

wheat seal
cold aurora
#

I care about getting a return offer

hexed moth
#

i mean

sonic coral
hexed moth
#

doesnt hurt if u have no job lmao

sonic coral
#

And their take home isn’t bad

hexed moth
#

offer

wheat seal
sonic coral
#

I did it last cycle their take home is just a basic api

cold aurora
#

From a company I would want to work for full time

wheat seal
#

I think going for masters is easier and trying for internship would be

sonic coral
#

It’s not like neeva where it’s a whole ass project

sonic coral
#

Cloudflare take home imo is the direction the industry should go rather than leetcode but that’s just my hot take

wheat seal
#

I only had take home with kayak and hubspot

#

Hubspot take home was pretty difficult for me

#

And was a time sink I think

sonic coral
#

Hubspot takehome was also a rather basic api no?

nova vale
sonic coral
#

Just call this api, parse some data and that’s it

nova vale
#

And the opportunity cost is pretty high

#

Again, this is all as someone who did the masters+internship

sonic coral
wheat seal
sonic coral
wheat seal
#

I only made basic projects too

sonic coral
#

Yeah frontend takehomes can fuck off but I hate frontend so lol

#

But api takehomes are freebies imo

wheat seal
nova vale
wheat seal
#

Cuz a lot of tech companies are on freeze for ng

teal jackal
#

tbh now i know you can get sub-800 with q4

nova vale
#

Right, so you're saying intern at one of the companies you consider more prestigious then convert to fulltime?

teal jackal
#

q2 is usually a freebie but sometimes they hit with some real nasty curveballs tbh

wheat seal
#

Or settle for adp, gm or jpm

teal jackal
wheat seal
teal jackal
#

i know this becauase i applied and crickets

nova vale
#

Sure, but if you fail the interviews for those, then you're in a strictly worse position now, and who knows if that conversion is guaranteed. I personally would rather work at one of those companies, and then apply 1 year in.

wheat seal
teal jackal
#

idk

#

but i know that the take home isnt auto this time

teal jackal
#

lasaga for dinner at home

hazy egret
#

Bruh

teal jackal
#

gonna bake this

wheat seal
hazy egret
#

Guys eating for his whole neighborhood