2023_grads

[ebon quiver]

tbh

[timber rock]

still answering the 200 word questions

[ebon quiver]

but 6 hours ? are u srs

[timber rock]

lol

[west egret]

Yeah kind of ridiculous unless they’re paying ridiculous amounts

6 h is almost a full work day

[ebon quiver]

thats what im fucking saying

they arent paying ridiculous amounts

thats the tihng

[clever orbit]

Did you solve exactly two i.e not even look at the third?

[delicate cloak]

yeah

[ebon quiver]

guys

u think its worth doing an internship

after u graduated

but lie that u arent graduating.. or do u even have to ?

or maybe i ask for a full time

[autumn ridge]

The only case where I would really consider it is if it's at a company that has a program for hiring interns immediately after their internship even if they aren't graduated. Otherwise you are just kicking the can down the road

[ebon quiver]

wdym even if they arent graduated

what if i. cant get a job tho

like an internship is better than no job

then i can continue searching over the next few months

i think its def the move

[autumn ridge]

Like coinbase and I heard at Snap it's possible but very rare and team dependant. They will let you basically drop out and start working

[ebon quiver]

no but i will be graduated

[autumn ridge]

Otherwise their probably won't be any headcount for you to start until the next year

[teal jackal]

DICK LOL

[ebon quiver]

i dont think we are talking about the same thign

so im graduating in december

the internship is for january - whenever

[timber rock]

probably not a good idea to lie about graduation date

[deep glen]

Were u on the waitlist?

[autumn ridge]

Yeah the point isn't whether you personally are graduated or not it's whether the company itself has the infrastructure in place and headcount allocated to extend full time offers to succesful interns immediatly after their internship

[ebon quiver]

u think so ?

[calm shale]

no

[timber rock]

but an internship is better than nothing if they do hire people who have graduated already

[ebon quiver]

check dms please

[ebon quiver]

thats what im saying

so the question is this

should i lie about my graduation date

first option

[rain patio]

just say ur doing a 1 year masters

but then after u get the return ask to go back

[ebon quiver]

will they ask for proof

[rain patio]

since u don't want to do masters anymore

[ebon quiver]

oh this is a good option

[timber rock]

thats a good idea lol

[ebon quiver]

ok ill do that

but wit

wait

what if i do this

what if i j be honest and ask for a fulltime

like either on the same team or any other team with headcount for a new grad

but then if he says no im fucked

i cant go back and say oh shit masters

[autumn ridge]

yeah that's the problem is it's a big gamble no matter what and you are in a worse position trying to get hired outside of the recruiting cycle after the internship vs if you just focused on new grad roles now

[ebon quiver]

what if they give me a return offer tho

thats theh eop

i feel like ill be able to get a job till then right

ok lets say i cant and i also dont get a return offer

thats why im saying hb i be honest

and j ask for new grad rn

[distant rampart]

anyone interviewed for seatgeek? what was ur OA score

[calm shale]

i got seatgeek

842

[ebon quiver]

i think i should be honest

hb i j say this

im considering going for a masters program

so ill ask if they have fulltime roles

if they dont, then illl j say ill go for masters

if they do then ll pursue now

[wheat seal]

U can do masters then just get internships

@ebon quiver

[ebon quiver]

the thing is i dont wanna do masters

im j saying i do so i can get an internship

ill be graduated before the internship begins

[wheat seal]

Oh I see

[marble bronze]

813 lol

[ebon quiver]

what do u think

[wary pollen]

is anyone still not rejected from microsoft

[brittle marten]

does anyone know if scale calls to reject

[azure zephyr]

NETFLIX FINAL SECURED LETS GO

[ebon quiver]

damn congrats brosky

[wheat seal]

It’s a good idea

I mean companies like ADP

are hiring, it’s not faang but

[wicked pendant]

they let me skip to onsite bc i interviewed w them before but they reached out first to offer that

[wheat seal]

Pay isn’t bad at all

Like 10k sign on

85k base

I think they hire in spring

So I mean I’d still look around

I wouldn’t just stop, but I’d go apply for masters anyhow @ebon quiver

[ebon quiver]

Ima do that then

[stable wharf]

The bitches did not get back to me by the time they said they would

Now it’s 5:04 pacific and I have to wait till tomorrow

Ugh

[late kestrel]

ing so hard to wake up to a bb offer call

[dire ore]

What is Bloomberg offer max ?

Like 213 first year?

[late kestrel]

something like that

[wicked pendant]

without signing bonus, if my recruiter was being truthful, 155 base 30 bonus 10 relo

[livid yew]

lmao a lot of business is based on EST

[wicked pendant]

signing bonus doesnt really have a limit from what i know..? if u have crazy offers they can raise

[livid yew]

but also like idk they got a lot of people to respond to

[wicked pendant]

their whole thing is like yayy we dont have bands so

[wheat seal]

Would u want to do ADP?

[livid yew]

decent bet of relo, where would you be moving to though

[wicked rivet]

wahts covered under relo

furniture? plane?

[livid yew]

prob

[wicked rivet]

boutta buy a first class plane

[livid yew]

I mean all my moves where by ground, so no plane though

[wicked rivet]

oh yea id prob be driving too

[wicked pendant]

offices are in nyc so there o7

everyone gets 10k flat no matter what

thats why i think ppl r dumping it in w tc

[wheat seal]

What company?

[wicked pendant]

bloom

i think theyre all i talk abt anymore 😭 just wanna help

[graceful nest]

yk anything about discovery day like wat dates they offer and stuff

[late kestrel]

or princeton 😉

[foggy perch]

nyc but relevant info is that you need to pay back relo if you leave in < 2 years

[wicked pendant]

im going to it tmrw , i know oct 21 also an option

[foggy perch]

oh you're going soon nice

I'm probs delaying to later in october if I have time

[wicked pendant]

nov 11 also option

they have them regularly

[foggy perch]

on a side note, you folk who enjoy programming in react are literal serial killers smh

[wicked rivet]

whats discovery day

[graceful nest]

o okok cool sounds good

[late kestrel]

if i get offer tmrw or monday im goin on the 21st fo sho

[livid yew]

huh

[wicked pendant]

they paid for my uber and the hotel is fun except my room is above the pub so its loud 🥲

[livid yew]

yeah I mean if I was in NYC, I would prob stay there a couple years

[foggy perch]

bb pays to fly you out to a hotel for 3 days (1 of them you visit bb office for fun events I thinkk?)

I didn't read too closely

[wicked pendant]

u can do thursday-sunday

gotta do corpo brainwashing all day on fri

[foggy perch]

it'd really suck if I did discovery day and realize I hate nyc

lmao

[wicked rivet]

oh shoot

[wicked pendant]

its my first time in nyc and its pretty fun, ppl r crazy lol

[wicked rivet]

damn my onsite in 5 weeks, gonna have to grind those mf tagged

[foggy perch]

doing all the alcohols and drugs I bet

[wicked rivet]

oh lmk if u want food recs

[livid yew]

NYC is cool, but not for everyone

[wicked rivet]

nyc food is life <3

[wicked pendant]

honestly not that as much im just shocked like pedestrians just go stand in traffic

stuff like that

💀

[foggy perch]

psh that's basically normal

just live in a city

[livid yew]

lmao thats basically any big city

[wicked rivet]

ya

[sour night]

I did this at my university bc I’m from there and everyone looked at me weird

[wicked pendant]

noo seattle was chill.. idk.. the jaywalking here is so intense

im just following crowds

[foggy perch]

sounds fake

[wicked rivet]

ya i do it at my midwestern uni all the time

[foggy perch]

jaywalking is just the natural way you survive in big cities

[wicked rivet]

kinda scarier tho bc roads are wider and cars dont know how to drive around pedestrians

[livid yew]

yeah if the street are clear, im crossing

[sour night]

We go to the same uni

[foggy perch]

maybe uncivilized cities in the westcoast built differently

[wicked rivet]

lmaoo

[wicked pendant]

no like i saw some 60 yr old man book it across the street thru like a 3 foot gap and almost get hit

😭😭😭

[livid yew]

got places to be

[ebon quiver]

officially got wait listed hy Amazon

bullshit

man fuck. the one interview I get I do well and still don't get the offer

[foggy perch]

NYC is just a dog eat dog natural selection city i guess

[lament summit]

@foggy perch when u coming back to discord

We miss I

U

[foggy perch]

one day

[wicked pendant]

ya they got mf traffic cops standing out here w whistle s directing stuff 😭

[lament summit]

Y u leave

[wicked pendant]

im only used to seeing that at like elementary schools lul

[foggy perch]

had to maximize productivity

and by that I mean I stopped messaging as much on discord to play 12 hours of Terraria a day

[teal jackal]

H

[lament summit]

Fair

[foggy perch]

I'll return if I get a pinterest offer

[lament summit]

When we both

[foggy perch]

i lowkey don't know if I'll make it to next round because my leetcode answer sounded so scripted lmao

even though it was definitely optimal

[formal fable]

Anyone here heard back from Pinterest after giving the ML OA?

[lament summit]

Nop not ml

[cold matrix]

I just got invited to an extra interview with one of the engineering leaders at Roblox after doing all the 4 on site interviews for the new grad position. Does everyone get this? and what can i expect here?

[foggy perch]

ML people just don't exist i guess

[foggy perch]

means you're fringe/edge of offer/rejected

not everyone gets it

I think it's another behavioral from what I've heard

[cold matrix]

ohhh i see i see thank u!

[rustic vessel]

I have one next week

[ebon quiver]

does anyone what the chance is of getting of Amazon wait list

sigh fuck

can i pay someone

[foggy perch]

but also @lament summit I do think it says a lot about society when we've both been actively applying and interviewing so much and being rejected while having offers this whole time lmao

[cold matrix]

ah good luck!!

[compact obsidian]

less about society and more about the economy tbh

[elfin canopy]

So New Grad 2023 is a dead end? 😭😭😭😭

Is any company even hiring?

Any point of applying?

[rustic vessel]

Yep don’t apply

Give me less competition

[weak latch]

This is such a terrible mentality

What a bad question

of course there's a point in applying

there's never no point in applying

but yeah dont apply so i have less competition

[elfin canopy]

Lollll

[late kestrel]

jobs are overrated anyways

[weak latch]

How are you guys even hearing back from netflix

i submitted their app the day it opened and didn't even get an oa

[late kestrel]

me too! cuz we dont go to THE schools :))

[weak latch]

:)))

[late kestrel]

visa phone

[weak latch]

50-75 gang

[autumn ridge]

same lol it's so random it must be school filter getting me for some of these bc I go to a trash state school

[weak latch]

HEYO

1 OFFER

CONGRATS!!

[autumn ridge]

LOL that's right baby my watch has finally ended

[late kestrel]

wait isnt that supposed to be a 2 now

[autumn ridge]

ty ty though

[weak latch]

man

[autumn ridge]

nah I just have 1 lol

[weak latch]

im still coping because google refuses to send me onsite

[late kestrel]

oh shoot i thought you had updated that before today ngl

[weak latch]

and c1 isn't scheduling my powerday

so i guess just gotta hope for bloomberg 🥴

[tawdry snow]

What's schools are THE schools?

Literally just t10? Or is it less bad than that

[whole berry]

a light in the dark tunnel

[late kestrel]

im boutta change my name to bb simp if i get bb

[azure zephyr]

pretty sure i dont go to a target school for them

[late kestrel]

shhhh its

[grizzled bronze]

Any point in scheduling a Powerday?

Any point in signing an offer with Citadel?

[weak latch]

facts

[weak latch]

Nah citadel tc was too low for me

so i rejected their offer

[dusky plover]

guys

[late kestrel]

pray4me

[dusky plover]

my recruiter told me citadel isnt hiring for ng anymore

[weak latch]

yeah my recruiter told me i was the last one

[dusky plover]

ohh fshoo

[normal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-theteremyjaylor-trolling-troll-troii-gif-22672136

[west egret]

At this point, idk if you’re trolling or it’s actually true with how market is

[weak latch]

I showed them my HRT and Jane Street offers and they raised it to only 500k TC

Still peanuts to me

so i rejected all 3

[west egret]

I mean I’m not remotely at the level to get citadel anyways lol

[weak latch]

I'm looking for at least 750k TC

None of these trading firms could provide that for me

😔

[untold lava]

(I think he’s trolling)

[earnest warren]

ev0s asks: Put Leetcode profile link in resume?

[compact mesa]

Is googles 15-30 min first recruiter call just a talk or is it behavioral

[untold lava]

My resume contains only a link to my leetcode profile

It works

[static moth]

do you indeed love balls

[dusky plover]

bro

mf got kazuma in the pfp

ofc they love balls

[west egret]

Can’t believe these companies expect us to commute for working in office when we can’t even afford a Ferrari per year

[livid yew]

[hexed canopy]

YKNW I have finished one extra interview and just got invited to another extra interview😂

[dusky plover]

has anyone here had success applying to non newgrad apps

so like places asking for 1-2 yoe

[coral finch]

no... 3 month yoe

[dusky plover]

wot

[coral finch]

wym?

[dusky plover]

are u saying u have 3 months of exp

[livid yew]

lmao usually exp is measured in years not months

[coral finch]

ohh

[untold lava]

Yeah your moms balls

[grizzled bronze]

"3 month yoe" reads funny

Some places actually do allow you to count internship experience in their yoe requirement

Twitch is one of them

[livid yew]

somtimes YOE becomes a catch-all like TC

[coral finch]

wym catch all?

[livid yew]

well sometimes people add up a bunch of stuff into TC, that really should not be counted in TC

[coral finch]

i see

[dusky plover]

too bad twitch not hiring

[livid yew]

I mean maybe this - https://www.twitch.tv/jobs/en/careers/6368279002/

[dusky plover]

im pretty sure i applied to that position 5 times now

[livid yew]

https://www.twitch.tv/jobs/en/careers/6377189002/

[coral finch]

immediately rejection ^

[wheat seal]

Vmware isn’t hiring ng?

[dusky plover]

they arent actively

they had apps open

[coral finch]

great point, not seeing

they had it last year

like up up

[dusky plover]

but they're being acquired by broadcom rn

so its a bit messy

[coral finch]

re-orgs

ah

[wheat seal]

I heard from some1 that it won’t close. Until like end of next year

Broadcom does layoff each reorg I think they had

But vmware is

A lot more solid of a company than the others

Like the engineering

Cuz tbh at some companies engineering is really unproductive and have like 0 work to do

What u think about WillowTree @dusky plover

[teal jackal]

im only applying to places with no specified YoE requirement

[teal jackal]

some people are hella tryhard but i dont think that anyone here has 2yoe of internships

[dusky plover]

no thoughts on it, idk it was a company till i applied

[dusky plover]

fasho

[wheat seal]

Check out this job at WillowTree: iOS Software Engineer - New Grad 2023

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3249263457

[teal jackal]

my friend got an interview at a pretty cool company for a role with no specified YoE requirements, but the drawback of that is that you and many other applicants are fighting over only one seat

[wheat seal]

Oh okay

[teal jackal]

because new grad applications hire in batches

individual job listings usually hire for one team member and only one

[rancid token]

does anyone know how many rounds there are for atlassian new grad

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah, someone posted it here

[teal jackal]

damn tbh im surprised by how generic the expectations are

"you have done code stuff"

doesnt specify what code stuff

hopium tbh

for the future

[grizzled bronze]

Check this thread #1021912941710282792 message

[west pagoda]

Canadians do 👀

Not that it’s helping my job hunt tho lol, but I do have a lot of backup places I can hit up

[normal palm]

yeah canadians do lol and still graduate without a return offer/job

i think that speaks volumes about the economy

[west pagoda]

Are you Canadian @normal palm

Ayyy

[normal palm]

haha

[west pagoda]

Grinded my way throughout to get several big N offers for last one and then chose meta 🤡

Big sad but it’s ok

[uncut umbra]

bruh my heart fucking stopped I thought you were serious

[elder hound]

I hate application RNG man

I just want Pinterest 😭😭😭 pray every morning for OA

[livid citrus]

who has taken Palantir Karat?

[vast rock]

Can someone gimme tips on how to prep for roblox vo? I opened roblox lc tagged i already did the most recent 6 months list but its only like 5 questions

[waxen bolt]

i like to think of 3sum as 2sum with a 3rd number

[ebon quiver]

lmaooo underrated

underrated comment

[loud stump]

has anyone done the Palantir final hiring manager interview? Anyone know what I can expect?

[compact sundial]

my recruiter told me palantir hit headcount

[teal jackal]

[waxen bolt]

Really? I'm still going through the process and my recruiter said I'd know by next friday barring I pass all the rounds

[autumn ridge]

I reached out today to accelerate my timeline and they gave me an earlier date for my two interviews so i don’t that’s true

[teal jackal]

I don't believe that but I'm also coping

I regret not getting on the cold email strategy earlier

I feel like datadog is on a strict "do not reply to cold emails" policy

Since everyone I tried ghosts

[split plaza]

are you capping, I'm also still in their process

[small mountain]

what is this strat

[teal jackal]

Find a recruiter email

And ask them for a status update if you applied and haven't entered the process in any way yet

Like no oa, interview or reject

[small mountain]

"Dear who it may concern,

I would like one job please.

Kind regards"

[small mountain]

i was honestly considering that

how do you find a recruiter email? linkedin?

[teal jackal]

Tbh you gotta do your own search or talk to friends

[waxen bolt]

I don't think it's true. Doesn't make sense to continue interviewing kids if they capped out their class. Probably just not taking any new applicants cuz they're assuming that they'll fill their class with their current pool

[teal jackal]

My friends share recruiter emails for me, but out of respect for everyone's privacy I do not spread recruiter emails further to anyone else

[small mountain]

no i totally get that was just curious how you got them

[teal jackal]

Try asking friends or people from your uni

[azure zephyr]

i used linkedin cold messaging to get my vanta interview @small mountain

i usually just search campus recruiter @ x company

[teal jackal]

Yeah linkedin is probably the better resource for finding recruiters

Cold LinkedIn messaging also works

I use email more often though

[buoyant fable]

anyone who knows about economics, what happpens to the job market when the recession dies down?

will it be a lot of new grad positions in say a year from now? or more opportunities for ppl graduating rn?

[pliant heron]

So has optiver filled? I have a hr call in ten days🥲

[teal jackal]

o7

[dusky plover]

cold emailing actually worked 🤨

[dusky plover]

how do u search for a campus recruiter for ur school specifically

[teal jackal]

did u try it b4

cold email does not work often

but when it does

youll be super glad you tried

[autumn ridge]

I’ve had some success just by having an active LinkedIn as well. I put the stupid open to work banner on my page and did some skill assessments and got reached out to directly by Bloomberg and Amazon

[teal jackal]

should i do the dumb ass "open to work" pfp

i cringe thinking abt that

[autumn ridge]

Same but i heard it helps so I’d rather cringe with a job then be cool without lol

[teal jackal]

so tru

bcuz recruiter wouldnt know that you want a job

[river harbor]

Must obtain work authorization in country of employment at the time of hire, and maintain ongoing work authorization during employment.

[robust kettle]

according to linkedIn open to work without the banner should still show to recruiters i think

[river harbor]

Does this mean the company won't sponsor visa in future as well

For intnl students

[loud olive]

no it just means u need to have OPT on start date and u have to maintain legal staus during ur job

[river harbor]

So they will sponsor in future then?

[autumn ridge]

Idk why but i just understood your username and it made me LOL. That has to be the best one in the discord

[small mountain]

this discord has some bangers but this one is definitely up there

[autumn ridge]

flexport is fucking on one their process is OA, 2 hour tech screen, 4 hour final

[teal jackal]

sounds similar to a lot of new grad companies tbh

multiple "onsites"

[autumn ridge]

6 hours though plus OA? I haven't heard of anyones that is that long

[teal jackal]

palantir is kinda long too i think

but that long?

idk

i think palantir cumulatively is like 5 hrs

[azure zephyr]

sometimes they have it in their profile somewhere what region

[teal jackal]

is it

not sure

[autumn ridge]

palantir is 1 hour karat, 2 hour onsite, 1 hour final I thought?

[teal jackal]

and then 30 min hr call

ah

[autumn ridge]

ah yeah hr call

[teal jackal]

a lengthy process but not as bad as flexport probs

[bold pier]

isn't bb also 5 hours combined

[teal jackal]

4 hour final sucks

[teal jackal]

i heard so too

i think bloomberg has 3 rounds of interviews

phone -> onsite -> final

[bold pier]

I'll update you soon, got VO on monday lol

[teal jackal]

VO = onsite?

[bold pier]

yeah

[autumn ridge]

BB is like 4.5 and at least for me HR round was basically non existant it was just a check in about next steps

[bold pier]

Virtual Onsite*

[autumn ridge]

and no OA

[ivory stratus]

is bb allowed to be remote or just onsite?

[teal jackal]

i heard a funny saying once
"if you need more than 4 interviews to hire someone then you probably are confused as to what you want from candidates"

[autumn ridge]

onsite only

I'm ready to enter my city girl era. Goodbye tucson lol

[bold pier]

gib tips pls

[ivory stratus]

yeah but ya boi doesnt wanna leave hawaii

[autumn ridge]

do good and not bad

[whole berry]

gotta buy a nissan altima

clapped out at that

and youre set my friend

[teal jackal]

i heard phone round at bloomberg is one tagged problem + why us?

[bold pier]

is it bad that I'm already in NYC

[whole berry]

youre living life

[teal jackal]

tbh i dont understand how mfs afford parking in manhattan

[bold pier]

how good

[teal jackal]

i wanna have a car if i live in nyc

[ivory stratus]

but y

[whole berry]

ya y lol

[bold pier]

never getting a car in nyc

[teal jackal]

so i can leave

[ivory stratus]

if i lived in nyc id be chillin taking the subway

[teal jackal]

and drive wherever i want

[whole berry]

yeah subway is better

[teal jackal]

i love cars

[ivory stratus]

you can take amtrak all the way down east coast

yeah but the cost just to keep the car in the city would be dumb

[whole berry]

you cant drive anywhere in manhattan

its legit terrible

[teal jackal]

i can drive out of manhattan tho

[bold pier]

I haven't even taken a cab in 13 months in NYC

[ivory stratus]

can also uber out of manhattan lol

[whole berry]

ya thats viable

but even then you wanna take the train to dumbo and out towards flatbush etc

[teal jackal]

i prefer to drive myself, ill probs rent

[wicked rivet]

seatgeek is 5hr final lmao

[whole berry]

live out in greenwich

[ivory stratus]

tbh if you turo your car, you could probably make bank

[whole berry]

best place to live

[whole berry]

never put your car on turo unless if u have bumper to bumper insurance

[ivory stratus]

isn't greenwich rich people country?

[whole berry]

yes

[teal jackal]

seatgeek is a goofy ahh name lmao its like calling a pizza delivery app PizzaWeeaboo

fuck seatgeek

[autumn ridge]

just prep tagged questions and practice some behavorial like why BB. Alot of rng on what question you can get asked

[teal jackal]

id be embarassed to say "oh i work at seatgeek lmao"

[whole berry]

thats why i wanna live there too its sooo nice

such a different vibe

[ivory stratus]

fair enough

[loud olive]

most likely yes, but u should always confirm with the company

[ivory stratus]

my gfs sisters boyfriends family lives over there lol

[teal jackal]

"oh yeah i work on a pizza delivery app"
what company?
"PizzaWeeaboo"

thats deadass how that sounds

[whole berry]

ya i can tell theyre probably insufferable

[ivory stratus]

her sister just cares a lot about status and crap and we're like who cares lool

they have a place at marthas vineyard too

[teal jackal]

LMAO marthas vineyard

[whole berry]

thats actually insane

[bold pier]

thanks, doing that. Practiced all tagged and guy gave me lc hard+ on the phone

[teal jackal]

rich ass elite mfs

[dusky plover]

like if my school was uc berkley i can search by like "berkley recruiter" ?

[teal jackal]

come out of town too live there

lmao

topkek

[ivory stratus]

yuuuuuuup

[whole berry]

but ngl i gotta bag a girl from greenwich

will be set for life

[ivory stratus]

it's funny cause like

my girlfriends family grew up on a lot of money but her dad built his own business and was raised in a trailer park so they are all super humble

[whole berry]

honestly thats the silver lining

[ivory stratus]

yeah that's where i'm tryna be

[teal jackal]

my dad immigrated from a mud hut in a village and no wheels to a nice mcmansion and a jaguar suv

its sick

[ivory stratus]

just like good money, nice house, super humble

[teal jackal]

and i get to reap off it and underachieve and still be comfortable

[autumn ridge]

Yeah that sucks sorry man. I am blessed from a past life apperently and they no showed my phone interview twice so i got to skip the phone.

[ivory stratus]

thats sweeeeeeet

[ivory stratus]

my gfs uncle went to school with bill gates and was like. super early in msft

think he did project management on some of the early OS and microsoft office

[teal jackal]

early to those kinds of companies

[azure zephyr]

nah just search campus/university recruiter and shoot your shot. if they respond they can either get ur message to the right person or they are the right person

[teal jackal]

thats gotta be sick

[ivory stratus]

yeah

[teal jackal]

my parents first time in the western hemisphere was like 1991

[ivory stratus]

my gfs housemates brothers girlfriend was a software engineer in msft super early too

and no joke they bought their daughter and her bf a house in seattle. easily multimillion dollar house

[teal jackal]

crazy

[ivory stratus]

like im sure they jsut got some early stock

now they're LIVIN

[teal jackal]

can imaigne they knew ms would be a big deal

[ivory stratus]

yeah possibly

[teal jackal]

high status girlfriend damn

[ivory stratus]

but im sure they jsut got paid some stock and once it boomed, they retired lol

[bold pier]

woah, my man god looking over you personally

[teal jackal]

your gf and her fam knows a lot of crazy ppls

[ivory stratus]

it's the same thing that happens to unicorns though

[dusky plover]

oooh ok thx

[ivory stratus]

like imagine just working at uber prior to ipo

[teal jackal]

my parents say i should consider middle stage startups, stable enough that ill have at least a year of employment and tolerable tc

but has the potetial to go sicko mode

[ivory stratus]

dude this

just do research and check to see if it has good reliable projections

[teal jackal]

my parents also say im socially hopeless so i might as well do something meaningful in life

[ivory stratus]

not bs "hey we're gonna go public and skyrocket based off of our opinion"

[bold pier]

Worked at a middle stage startup before masters, best place to work.. you learn a shit ton!

[teal jackal]

WLB? yeah you dont need that son

[ivory stratus]

i mean if it pays off why not lol

[teal jackal]

p much

[ivory stratus]

if the company has good potential why not

[teal jackal]

WLB is like lower middle priority rn, but thats easy to say while i dont have a job yet

and am still looking

[ivory stratus]

yeah my wlb is low prio right now

like obvs i want to have free time but ya boi wants money and to climb the ladder too

also care about resume prestige

just wanna make good money to coast after i hit a certain amount

[teal jackal]

unironically if i didnt feel sentimental about my car

i do not trust other ppl with a car that i care abt

[ivory stratus]

yeah i wouldn't turo a car i cared about lol

[teal jackal]

but yeah especially if its a somewhat interesting car

nyc market for rental cars is huge

every weekend, a lot of people just wanna leave the city for somewhere outside

but tbh rental cars are a headache

but idk how much more of a headache owning my own would be

[radiant juniper]

Anyone who did the Gap OA know how long it takes to hear back for an interview?

[ivory stratus]

yeah. eventually i want a nice Porsche 718 or 911. probb a GTS

[azure zephyr]

Are there any good youtube videos/articles/reddit posts out there on new grads reviewing their interviewing experience?

[ivory stratus]

if we had a track here i would love a gt3rs

[teal jackal]

that would be interesting to see

[ivory stratus]

def some youtube videos on big n companies

[teal jackal]

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/smart-sports-car-ssc-sc-01-denies-byd-ties-tries-to-offer-affordable-ev-performance_3.jpg

i want this

[ivory stratus]

is that a lotus?

[teal jackal]

electric coupe

[ivory stratus]

oh dope

[teal jackal]

nah, xiaomi backed chinese startup

[ivory stratus]

that's sick

my goal is a tesla for my daily

prob a model y for the fam and space

then a model 3 perf for myself

and then my sports car that i take to car shows lol

[teal jackal]

i like the porsche cayenne as a concept

the first gen cayenne is apparently a really good 4x4

[ivory stratus]

i love the macan

it's small but it's so nice

[teal jackal]

same

i like the lexus gx, its the land cruiser prado

i started playing a lot of beamng.drive

their 4x4 simulation is surprisingly good

[ivory stratus]

whats beamng.drive?

[teal jackal]

a pc game

[fallen fox]

car crash simulator

[whole zinc]

why google no respond

[delicate cloak]

try back in a year lol

[primal pike]

these applications are getting crazy

is this a hard dp

[chilly burrow]

Is it me or do these look ai generated?

[primal pike]

scary

[brittle dirge]

no

[split plaza]

is it possible to study for Palantir learning

[hexed moth]

bruh how many cars do u want

[ivory stratus]

only two for myself lol

[ivory stratus]

one for the gf

[ivory stratus]

honestly 3 isn't a lot. one daily for commuting, one weekend car, and the family car

[split plaza]

chad like

[whole berry]

tbh this

[oak patrol]

Damn, the Doordash New Grad OA was pretty hard

[livid horizon]

Was it on codesignal?

[oak patrol]

No, Hackerrank. Both questions were hard!

[oak patrol]

I interned at Audible, and I'm a grad student

Forgot to mention, even I have 1 year swe experience prior to my Master's!

Apply for Bloomberg, there is a high chance of getting a callback!

[timber rock]

is it really necessary to email me every day

[clever orbit]

Got a palantir rejection email after booking my redo??

[dense cloud]

wat

bruh whats up with palantir they have been ghosting me for almost two weeks now after passing karat

[sonic coral]

Prob a bot

[timber rock]

Ik

[twilit wasp]

what grad programme did you apply to?

[timber rock]

technology future leaders

[clever orbit]

Nah lol

Just typical bs

[night magnet]

I applied for an automation engineer position

And in the phone screen they said I had to move to Montana 💀

Like bro what kind of talent to you think you’ll be getting in Montana

[teal jackal]

People who want to live in a super low cost of living region

[autumn ridge]

Yeah that's tough but some people would dig it. Especially if you already have a wife and or kids I can see it making a lot of sense

[weak latch]

Wow a lot of people put draftkings processes last night

[timber rock]

pay me 100k and ill move to montana

[weak latch]

Still nothing for me

[lilac siren]

Is cognex oa auto?

[hexed moth]

do jobs care if u get a BA or a BS lol

[lament summit]

prolly not

Depends more so on ur work exp

[hexed moth]

in my offer letter it says BS

so i had to reach out, hopefully this doesn't invalidate me lmfao

my school only offers a BA

[dense seal]

anyone heard back after google apm interview this week?

[night magnet]

Nah no way

Ur chillin

[late kestrel]

cmon bb recruiter pls call

[tawdry snow]

i doubt it, unless you mean ba in something really unrelated

[hexed moth]

oh no it's bs in cs

and im getting a ba in cs

[tawdry snow]

yeah you're 99% fine

unrelated: dude at my interview today said i can take as much time as i want on the OA because i'm literally the only candidate right now

is this a good sign or a bad sign?

[teal jackal]

0% chance they gaf

[teal jackal]

interesting, what kind of job is it

[tawdry snow]

RL research/engineer

i think it leans more research, but its titled as engineer

[teal jackal]

no wonder

tbh

[tawdry snow]

i just find it odd that every ML position i apply to is swamped

[teal jackal]

those postiions are pretty advanced, dont get a lot of qualified applicants

o

[tawdry snow]

but RL is usually pretty empty

outside of like deepmind/openai/etc

[teal jackal]

RL is very specific

everyone and their mom can apply if it just says "ML engineer"

[tawdry snow]

whew

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/howard-hamlin-better-call-saul-howar-hamlini-howardsus-gif-25568404

[tawdry snow]

i'm gunna take this as permission to finally stop doom spiraling

[cobalt siren]

that person attended a conference so their process is different, got a packet that says it's: OA -> Technical Phone -> Final (Coding Design, Behavioral/values interview)

[ebon quiver]

is there alike a list of good companies to work for

[tawdry snow]

define good

[ebon quiver]

good culture, smart engineers, challenging work, impactful work

maybe i should focus on startups

[hexed moth]

i mean

[tawdry snow]

impactful work

[teal jackal]

what does atlaassian even value?

they resume rj arbitrarily

but most companies do

[tawdry snow]

wait are you american

[teal jackal]

tbh most companies at the level people here are applying for have at least 3 of the 4

[ebon quiver]

yes i live in america

[ebon quiver]

what companies are those

[teal jackal]

basically all of them

[ebon quiver]

but there are also exceptions

like lots of startups

[tawdry snow]

if you're citizen, you might find some dod companies have "impactful work"

[hexed moth]

excuse me

[tawdry snow]

but dod companies usually have shit culture

[hexed moth]

work for palantir

[teal jackal]

I think smart engineers and challenging work is guaranteed for the majority of companies

[hexed moth]

they're all of the above and u can help build the mass surveillance state

[teal jackal]

however, good culture and meaningful product is something that might not be at every cmpany

[tawdry snow]

yeah especially if you're looking at pure programming stuff

[nocturne oriole]

U gonna have a hell of an “impact” somewhere

[hexed moth]

realistically though u should prolly just apply everywhere

especially with companies closing apps so quickly / hiring freezes

[nocturne oriole]

Not really tbh. Most people consider good companies tech companies, unicorn startups, stuff highly rated on Blind etc

[ebon quiver]

yeah

beggars can be choosers. esp as new grad

[ebon quiver]

ok ima j apply based on blind ratings

[tawdry snow]

whats blind

am noob

[ebon quiver]

very toxic site

its like a forum

about careers

but i like the toxicity

[weak latch]

if its highly rated on BLIND

then it must be good

[ebon quiver]

true true

[weak latch]

because blind mfs complain about everything

[ebon quiver]

oh shit ima apply to hooli

none of these companies even respond to me

i cant believe it

tbh i just care about tc

[lament summit]

damn i wanna work for hooli

[ebon quiver]

jeez im toxic af

[ebon quiver]

they give good tc

but bad wlb i heard

[cobalt siren]

I think I made it past resume only cause my recruiter also played a division 1 sport lmao

[tawdry snow]

"i just care about tc"

[ebon quiver]

sad mentality

[tawdry snow]

"i want good coworkers, challenging problems, impactful work"

pick one

[ebon quiver]

in most facses

in most cases

if a company pays high tc, then usually other things follow

obv there are exceptions

im willing to work for low tc at startups, etc

certain places

[tawdry snow]

imo high tc means they're gunna work you to the bone OR the work sucks in some way

[ebon quiver]

i dont mind being worked to the bone

[tawdry snow]

then yeah go chase tc in big tech

[calm shale]

not true lol

high tc can be chill af

all depends

low tc can also be toxic

[tawdry snow]

i never said low tc wasn't toxic lol

[ebon quiver]

i cant even read lbind

blind

im blind to blind

[tawdry snow]

i feel like the only places that have high tc and good culture are competitive as hell

[uneven grove]

How long did people wait to hear back from Bloomberg first interview?

[rain patio]

what are some eg

[tawdry snow]

google is the classic example, no?

[weak latch]

honestly

googles recruiting process just sucks

its way too slow

and the resume screen is way too hard to pass

[ebon quiver]

shit i remember when i had a google final

i got waitlisted

[weak latch]

im still waiting on oa feedback

[ebon quiver]

i feel like if i got another chance i could pass now

[weak latch]

😢

[teal jackal]

Damn we got an athlete here

I play csgo zombie escape

[tawdry snow]

i mean their process is a pain because they get 10 million applicants for everything

[teal jackal]

I put that on my resume

[ebon quiver]

whats arch ?

oh i just know basic linux lmao

the penguin just scares my ass

tryna get over it

[weak latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/677708212677640239/999060218149351585/jeli-1.gif

[dusky lark]

xGSDJAHGSDJH

[ebon quiver]

guys i j want free food

fuck tc and everything else

and free haircuts

man i want a free haircut

[worthy sapphire]

Any roblox offers here? How long did it take for them to get back to you?

[ebon quiver]

how did yall even pass the oa breh

friggin wolves getting sick was so hard

[sharp stream]

Are the modern hire assesments (liberty mutual) just random questions?

what do I expect here

[wind drum]

my roblox interviewer yesterday did not know what CI/CD, kubernetes, containers or docker was lmao

[ebon quiver]

fax. way too hard

[ebon quiver]

breh

[wind drum]

tbf those games don't matter if you get 840+ on codesignal

[ebon quiver]

oh fr

breh i didnt know that

[wind drum]

but yeah their pre final process really isn't comprehensive enough

[ebon quiver]

wait breh

is it too late to start from the begining of the process @wind drum

[wind drum]

idk, my interviewers were saying they were interviewing a shitton of ppl this month, but if it's still open you might as well

[ebon quiver]

ok fuck it

[ebon quiver]

can u help me on the stupid wolf bs

[wind drum]

i thought it was easy if you just divided into a grid w the filters and look for patterns

[ebon quiver]

i applied

lets see ig

what other company is still hiring

[wind drum]

3 and 2 i think

but i don't know if everyone gets the same courses

848

[acoustic berry]

I got an 843 and got rejected

[ebon quiver]

code signal hella uck based

[wind drum]

that is def not representative of my leetcode abilities i just got easy Q3 and 4

[foggy perch]

nah that's 🧢

they definitely reject with bad cognitive game scores

even w/ high codesignal

[ebon quiver]

thats dumb af

[wind drum]

they do resume review after oa too

[ebon quiver]

i need someone to help me on the cognitive game breh

i dont have a brain

[wind drum]

yeah if you do bad actually it might hurt you, but i heard from someone internal you either need 840+ or really good cognitive scores to move to resume review

rng

[foggy perch]

from what I've seen, you need good Codesignal + decent/good cognitive scores to get to resume screen

[hexed moth]

i built 4 robots

[bright mountain]

before all the hiring freezes and recession how long would a normal new grad recruiting cycle last?

[hexed moth]

prolly until early spring

[bright mountain]

is that like

april lmao

[hexed moth]

hmm

[exotic lintel]

just did TikTok OA, 2 multiple 3 leetcode
i solved 2 leetcode only

[rustic vessel]

I did 6 + 2

[hexed moth]

id have to look, i was interviewing with tiktok for example, in feb i think

and google late december

[rustic vessel]

How long does tiktok take to get back after oa

[hexed moth]

i had a referral

so i moved real quick

[rustic vessel]

Same

[hoary kraken]

work life simulation behavioral questions

[deep wasp]

Damn.

DoorDash OA was hard

[errant gorge]

Draftkings makes a deal with espn👀👀

This is huge for draftkings

[late kestrel]

dk may have resume rejected me but since it got legalized in my state 2 months ago, ive withdrawn over $400 from a $30 deposit

who's the real winner here

[sonic coral]

Gotta clarify what companies you mean because before the recession there were even companies that hired year round

[autumn ridge]

why wont DD send me the OA

amazon no OA, DD no OA, netflix no OA

[small mountain]

i'd completely stop searching for a job if i got BB honestly, like 0 chance they rescind

job hunt is hella draining

you're a better man than me @autumn ridge

[autumn ridge]

I just want at least 1 more offer so I can negotiate up BB.

but I'm way less stressed about it so that's been nice

[foggy perch]

I feel like I've been soft ghosted by doordash when they even had a swe look at my linkedin but still didn't give me oa lmao

[small mountain]

but yeah london scene kinda dead too expedia hasnt sent the hackerrank yet

[chilly burrow]

I was gonna keep doin the job serch

But i lose all motivation after 1 offer lol

[timber rock]

Companies just slowed down like a week ago for me

I havent progressed to the next round in any company for ages

[exotic lintel]

same
but they can still revoke it so be careful

[chilly burrow]

Ya it worries me too...

[timber rock]

Also I keep getting invited to these insight day things as if I'm gonna fly down to london to see an office that I probably won't even get hired at

[river harbor]

Got rejected by Bloomberg fucking asking data structures not even implemented in python

[timber rock]

None of them pay for travel lol

[ebon quiver]

guys i had my bb phone a week ago

should i reach out and ask for feedback

i prolly got rejected huh

[rain patio]

Figma still hiring?

[river harbor]

Yeah

But i didn't knew something like sorted containers existed in python

I gave heap soln he said he Don't want heap

[keen grove]

there's a 3rd party lib called sortedcontainers which implements it

[river harbor]

No he said in the end sorted containers do that and I was like wtf is that

He said earlier that it is one of the base ds and when i said set he said yes

But then i got confused how tf set

[sharp stream]

Thanks

[river harbor]

I won't he forgetting this Library anytime soon now

[keen grove]

lol, it's probably fine to forget tbh

I would think that most interviewers don't expect you to know about it. but you can mention it as a bonus from now on

cheap trick from bbg imo

[river harbor]

Yup that's what made me sad like you are a senior engineer and you may have used this library but how do you expect Everyone to know about it

[keen grove]

it's more likely that they're nearing the headcount goal and need a way to filter out more people

[small mountain]

companies hella stingy in the uk

[lilac siren]

I applied for dd with referral but still haven't received untapped invitations yet

[small mountain]

most dont offer a relocation either

[lilac siren]

[small mountain]

even those companies that offer it in other regions

[lilac siren]

same story for databricks

[autumn ridge]

That's fucked up if he said it's a base data structure when it's not lol

[honest sundial]

wait is untapped required to move forward? i never bothered to create an acc

i thought it was spam lol

[lilac siren]

idk lol

[river harbor]

Yup I got really confused after that sentence thinking which base ds has keys and values with key in sorted order

[calm shale]

its been fun here boys, gl to everyone, you got this officially done with recruiting

[ebon quiver]

where u going

congrats bud

[calm shale]

am gonna take zon 🍌

[ebon quiver]

damn thats lit

tc ?

if u dont mind

as a motivator for the rest of us

[ebon quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-drool-gif-24799775

[ebon quiver]

is this from jojo ?

[keen grove]

ya

[calm shale]

seattle 180-175/per year

[ebon quiver]

awesome stuf

[calm shale]

weird bc of rsu schedule and first 2 year sign on

[ebon quiver]

well congrats man

[prime palm]

I'll miss you jz

[lament summit]

congrats

[wind moat]

Amazon vs Audible. Which one is better for NG SDE? 🙏

[night magnet]

AWS?

[honest sundial]

Amazon for stability, can transfer to other teams

[foggy star]

Backend or front end?

[rain patio]

Audible for wlb

But I doubt itll be any different

[sick trellis]

Did you end up doing an Arm interview (I’m just seeing this message from a few days ago)?

[distant rampart]

is seatgeek phone just hr call?

i just got asked to schedule 30 min phone call

[slate bobcat]

TLE CHOPPA

[teal jackal]

TLE is what all my leetcode solutions are

[sonic coral]

Over seatgeek ny?

[calm shale]

ya still a startup, id rather at least have amazon on my resume first

take home at the end of the day will also be better

[sonic coral]

I’d hesitate to call seatgeek a startup it’s basically a small tech company now

[calm shale]

startup as in not ipoed yet

[sonic coral]

Oh shit they postponed their ipo

I thought they IPOed lol

[sour night]

Was able to bump up BB 1st yr TC to 205k

[calm shale]

ya so tc is just 130 base basically which isnt bad in nyc, but definitely not great

[sonic coral]

I mean it depends on how badly you wanna live in ny

You can def make 130 work

[calm shale]

tru

[sour night]

Sign on + perf

[night magnet]

Hey guys so I have his interview with a company near where I live. TC is only 85 so I’d never accept the offer, but I did want to go home soon, and they’re offering to fly me out

Is it bad to use them as a free vacation

[sonic coral]

EZ clap do it

[calm shale]

lmaooo

go for it king

[sonic coral]

Free ride home

[night magnet]

Ya lol and $100/day for food + free Uber anywhere

[autumn ridge]

Did you have another offer and how much where they able to move each? Ty for the info!

[sonic coral]

Bro is this even a question

[teal jackal]

🔥

do it

[night magnet]

What if I cancel the interview after taking the flight 💀

[sonic coral]

People would do this constantly before zoom interviews

[calm shale]

my gf was accepted to a couple grad programs, and they usually fly you out and wine and dine you to convince you to join their program. She had no intentions of joining most of them, but still went for the trip lmao

[teal jackal]

nah id just go to interview for practice

[night magnet]

Frr

Interesting

[sonic coral]

This is where they might ask you for an invoice

So I’d def stick with the interview

[night magnet]

Ya not worth

[night magnet]

I’d just say no 💀

But ya I’ll go

It’s only 3 hrs

[sour night]

Yep I had a competing offer that was 170k base, 10k sign-on, 320k RSU but BB doesn’t match RSUs

[sonic coral]

You really gonna go to collections over an interview

[night magnet]

They don’t have my credit card or Ssn or a contract lmao

[autumn ridge]

Damn nice! Do they only negotiate if the actual dollar amount is higher?

[night magnet]

How they gonna send me to collections

Then I could just go around sending random ppl to collections

[teal jackal]

has today been a dry inbox day to anyone else

[sonic coral]

Seems all they need is an invoice that you didn’t pay and your name/contact info like phone email

[teal jackal]

[sour night]

Yeah I tried to use my JPMC sign-on as leverage bc I got 20k sign, but my base was only 110k so they straight up said they wouldn’t even consider it 💀

[sonic coral]

http://unitedobligations.com/what-information-does-a-debt-collection-agency-need/

[teal jackal]

same tbh

i feel like the first wave of recruiting season is slowing down

[night magnet]

Tldr

[sonic coral]

See message above

[autumn ridge]

Damn I wonder if they would nego with flexport in chicago

Hopefully I get snap return bc I feel like they would def nego with that

[sour night]

What’s breakdown?

[autumn ridge]

This is flex but they are private and haven't extended any offers this cycle yet

And this is snap also haven't extended any offers this cycle yet

That's kind of silly if they don't nego with RSU's from public companies

[sour night]

Yeah same with StubHub they’re private so stocks are paper money unfortunately

[night magnet]

My friend got an offer (return)

[autumn ridge]

Oh damn nice did he share the TC?

[night magnet]

Lemme check w him

[safe rune]

whats the difference between flexport ng undergrad and masters

[night magnet]

I’ll lyk

[safe rune]

is the masters one like sde 2

because 167k is not worth 6 hr of interviews lol

[lament summit]

thats what i did with my spacex interview

i would never work for spacex but i took their free flight and free food

[night magnet]

Ya it’s so weird this company is giving $100/day for food but they don’t actually provide food at the onsite Interview

Makes no sense

[low scroll]

dude thats fire wtf

[lament summit]

just take the free trip

[low scroll]

$100/day for food is all michelin star meals

[night magnet]

Ya I am

[night magnet]

Cap

Never been to a Michelin star place but I feel like it’s more

Bc a nice steakhouse + drinks can be 100

I think

(I don’t drink but)

[teal jackal]

yeah this

a nice steak is around $60 or $70

and then the drinks add up

and then the tip

this is why i just cook my own steak

or go to texas roadhouse tbh

im not into gourmet shit

[night magnet]

Ya same

[neat shore]

If I delete my codesignal account. It shouldn’t affect the companies that I already sent my codesignal to correct ?

[night magnet]

Never been to a steakhouse lol but maybe this is my excuse to finally go

[lament summit]

who says u need to only spend 100

just use the 100 to offset ur costs

[teal jackal]

"gourmet" steakhouses are mid tbh

i dont big fan of em

[west egret]

@late kestrel congrats!

[teal jackal]

wait cheddy is finally out of this job search purgatory?

congrats dude

[lament summit]

damn everyone getting offers but me

[late kestrel]

thank you

[safe rune]

letzgoooo

[west egret]

Don’t worry I still have no offer

[calm shale]

you ever had kobe beef?

[azure zephyr]

congrats bro!

[ivory parrot]

Figma ghost about final round💀. Anyone heard back after final?

[azure zephyr]

i would've never though bloomberg would be dominating the recruiting cycle like this

they're getting some amazing talent this year

[calm shale]

fr

never even heard of them in terms of tech until this season

thought they a news company like ny times or something lol

[azure zephyr]

also @calm shale im curious, how was the front end amazon interview?

[calm shale]

pretty chill

[azure zephyr]

imagine they force you to solve lc in js

[calm shale]

kidna lol

[oak patrol]

Amazon if its AWS

[lament summit]

what

why do u want to work at aws

i would pick audible @wind moat