2023_grads

[uncut umbra]

drw and radix

[sonic coral]

I get that but moving to a diff state shouldn’t mean you lose the car lol

[foggy perch]

omc

irl onsites sound like shit

[bleak raven]

before accepting offer ?

[teal jackal]

nah its just like im gonna be driving my dads car every day

its going to be my dads car

just i use it 24/7

like a hog

[knotty folio]

oh I think Verkada might do IRL onsite too

[bleak raven]

no

[knotty folio]

oh ok

[bleak raven]

i’ll beg i have my ways

[teal jackal]

tbh im coping mad hard rn

i respect that pov

choice paralysis is bad

once you get to that point

[foggy perch]

did you end up getting verkada offer

[uncut umbra]

you were coming off as "fuck you for having choice paralysis" which I don't think you meant, you probably wanted to say "it feels shitty hearing people complain about choice paralysis when I am not in that position"

[teal jackal]

yeah thats p muchi t

[uncut umbra]

we're all going through a mega stressful time rn and it can obviously grate on people

it be like that

[teal jackal]

yeah i dont want to be toxic

dont wanna come off that way

[bleak raven]

funky things going on there

i asked for internship

so internship team looking into it

[teal jackal]

whats wrong with the bay?

[hexed moth]

fuck the bay

lmao

[bleak raven]

u need car

[teal jackal]

ah

like seattle

[foggy perch]

gg you stockholmed yourself

aren't you trying to go to nyc tho

[teal jackal]

u need car in seattle too unless ur fine with being locked into a 2 mile radius

[hexed moth]

what do u think of pittsburgh

ye

[foggy perch]

🤔

[hexed moth]

hahahahaha

[wind drum]

spent the summer there and wasn't a fan

[uncut umbra]

FUCK SHITTSBURGH

FUCK YOUR SHITTY WEATHER

FUCK YOUR HILLS

[teal jackal]

shitsburgh lmao

im getting sick of my college

[hexed moth]

dont forget the falling bridges too

[bleak raven]

@foggy perch u missed my dating story come back to #careers it’s not the same without u 😔

[teal jackal]

im honestly tired of northeastern campus

[uncut umbra]

I never even thought about that lmao

[teal jackal]

i wanna be home again

[uncut umbra]

also you're international

[bleak raven]

what’s northeastern

[foggy perch]

you mean northwestern>

[uncut umbra]

I can at least play my skin color off as a tan if I use a really white voice

[teal jackal]

wait actually so true, i feel hella weird when theres like only one other asian

[wind drum]

bruh what i love the area northeastern is in

[teal jackal]

nah im just sick of being in college

[bleak raven]

wtf is northeastern 💀

[teal jackal]

and by association, sick of campus

[bleak raven]

oh college

OHHH right

[uncut umbra]

I lived near northeastern this summer and it was okay but definitely not a place I'd want to live in long term

[wind drum]

try being in western mass 💀

[uncut umbra]

too fucking busy

[hexed moth]

im not asian, so ive never really noticed that but i never saw asian people outside of like the immediate area of cmu / pitt

[teal jackal]

im just sick of college, thats all tbh

[bleak raven]

what company

[uncut umbra]

ooh cmu/pitt person?

[uncut umbra]

zon

but also fuck zon

no fuck zon

or maybe fuck my team

[hexed moth]

i was thinking of getting my phd there if i hate swe

[uncut umbra]

one of those two

[teal jackal]

zon fucked us

[uncut umbra]

I'm genuinely so mad at my team

nah

aws

[hexed moth]

i wonder what team imma get

probably something i will hate knowing my luck

[foggy perch]

did you renege a gf

[teal jackal]

i grew up in a town with a lot of asians, but an all white neighborhood
that made me understand why people value having other people of a similar race/cultural background in their environments

[hexed moth]

maybe ill help develop that mindfullness software they put in the warehouses 💀

[teal jackal]

living in an all white neighborhood as a kid sucked

[foggy perch]

rly

i thought it was chill tbh

[bleak raven]

i had trouble deciding which one to date

[teal jackal]

nah sucked for me, all the kids were sport jocks

aint me

[hexed moth]

me with my anime girls

[foggy perch]

"why not both"

[bleak raven]

overemployed headass

[foggy perch]

2 always better than 1

[teal jackal]

OMG FACTS BRO

[uncut umbra]

be the main character in an isekai

[hexed moth]

i watched my dress up darling

someone wanted me to put it on my plex so when i get bored i watch the random shit my friends ask for

[teal jackal]

I honestly think I can probably find a job by year end

Hn?

[lament summit]

not in this economy

i like having a job

[hasty birch]

You only need a job for like a year and you can jump after

[lament summit]

how u know its gonna last for a year

[teal jackal]

U don't

I feel like ppl can emphasize with getting laid off

Or entire company going bust

[hasty birch]

Right, but even 6 months is fine, definitely should be looking into their balance sheet and cash flow before joining

[teal jackal]

For a start-up though I'd probably wanna find a company that makes a product I emphasize with

[uncut umbra]

if you don't have an offer, here is the logic that I operate on and that I feel maximizes your benefit given some arbitrary distribution of luck.

1. Apply everywhere that a position is currently open
2. For each offer you receive, either it is the best offer you have or it isn't the best offer you have (define best for yourself, but it's usually the case that the "best" offer is limited to one or two choices)
3. If the offer is the best offer you have, then thank god you applied and take it (or figure out which best offer to take)
4. If the offer isn't the best offer you have, then use it to leverage the best offers and see if a clear best offer shakes itself out

[teal jackal]

I applied to spotify eu roles too

Since I have Italian citizenship and can work in the schengen area

Not sure about actually moving to Eu though

Have not been there in 20 years

Im mainly doing it as a coping mechanism to release salt

F

I'm taking a nap during class to release salt

[faint igloo]

cant believe those guys lost premier league rights

which rounds were u on

like initial tech screen

same

literally me

u get some keyboard question

i got the first i bricked follow up cuz i thought the solution they wanted was too brain dead/brute force

but either way theres 6 interviews so maybe not worth

the product is awesome idea

ive been told there sys design and product design

i dont even know what product design means

[lament summit]

whos ur recruiter

think shes out of office

u should email her

SH initials righ

[autumn ridge]

I don't really blame startups for having longer interview processes bc it's much more important for them that they don't make hiring mistakes. Can possibly lose some qualified applicants but I'm not sure how much that matters for new grad

[lament summit]

ohhh nvm then

i have SH initials

[lime current]

lol I also have Sh Ev

[thick grail]

Does anyone know if Uber closed their new grad application?

[autumn ridge]

same here

[lime current]

she didnt respond to emails either

[autumn ridge]

she responded pretty quick to me but I had phone screen earlier

I did tech screen 09/30

[lime current]

yea at first very quick

after that so slow lol

[cold matrix]

Whats better prestige wise: Bloomberg or Roblox?

[night magnet]

Roblox

[night magnet]

https://prestigehunt.com

[sonic coral]

Jesus Christ

[night magnet]

SWE

Or you can accept SDET then renege

But if you become SDET then you’ll be focused on making the switch to SWE1. If u accept SWE1 you’ll be focused on making SWE2.

Yeah some stuff is messed up

Idk why rentec is so low

Also bbg above DE Shaw is major cap

There should be a site like this solely based on TC

Then it would be reasonably useful

No but

Wait is there rankings there

I thought they only have salary based ranking for ng

[uneven fulcrum]

Can I use previous Codesignal score after retaking? I am planning to retake Codesignal in the hopes of improving my score. In case I get a lower score, can I still share my previous score to the other companies which ask for it?

[unkempt glacier]

If anyone got Bloomberg offer, what is the TC? And what sort of questions are being asked in the interviews?

[wind drum]

roblox final in a couple hours

anyone got any advice

[loud olive]

Don’t overthink their lc questions, they should be pretty easy

And behavior is really important

[wind drum]

haha yeah ive been prepping for a lot of their weird behav questions

[trail leaf]

^ curious about this too, i just found out about re-using your codesignal score

[loud olive]

Ya I aced behavior but really fucked up technical by over complicating things lol

[wind drum]

like thinking there was a better time complexity or something?

[loud olive]

Like making the problem way harder than it actually was lol

[wind drum]

gotcha yeah their tagged q's aren't bad at all except the weird calculator ones

[loud olive]

Basically the question I was given was a way easier version of a question I’ve seen on an OA, so I went into it thinking it’s the same question

[wind drum]

fr like that question is awful

[loud olive]

I don’t think u will get that

[lament summit]

if u ask basic calculator

ur a terrible person

ill take dp over basic calculator

anyday

[wicked rivet]

rentech rank 29 lol

nuro 35

[wild igloo]

is it a mistake to schedule a karat on the weekend? do you think the interviewers are harsher lol

[loud olive]

Also in the creative problem solving one I thought ur suppose to get asked something sys design related., but mine was all behavior

No I don’t think that’s normal, I think ur suppose to get asked something sys design related

I think my interviewer just didn’t ask anything lol

[wind drum]

wait really no one else i talked to got sys design

[lament summit]

should b

but i didnt do roblox

im assuming 🙂

[small mountain]

how the hell is verily 94th

[vague kraken]

people don't know what it is

[small mountain]

😭

[late kestrel]

bb em round was legit 15 minutes of talking about my resume and then 15 minutes of him selling me on the program... imma nut 😩

[small mountain]

the cool ass google subsidiary

[loud olive]

Fr? On Glassdoor they all had to do it

[vague kraken]

Looks like the rankings are determined by anybody who uses the site

[loud olive]

And my roommate who got final last year had to design an elevator system for it

[lament summit]

its def not accurate

[wind drum]

aight i guess i'll prep a bit for that then

[small mountain]

your email is there btw

[hasty birch]

Email showing

[stable wharf]

Fine

[lament summit]

hope ur ready to get email bombed

[late kestrel]

wisco boy 😩

[stable wharf]

I just want my damn offer

[lament summit]

who doesnt

[stable wharf]

I know. I feel like shitposting relieves the anxiety a little bit

Slightly therapeutic

[small mountain]

mood

[lunar hatch]

Wondering if there is any hr at two sigma that replies

[stable wharf]

I’m thinking about emailing this recruiter with a fake deadline

[lunar hatch]

Tried three different hr and no reply

[stable wharf]

This dude has got to get off his but

[lament summit]

what r u waiting for

[stable wharf]

Vanta. I did the final round and I should be getting feedback very shortly. I can’t stop watching my outlook.

[lament summit]

when did u do the final round

[stable wharf]

Monday

[lament summit]

ohh

wait till next monday then followup

[stable wharf]

I’m impatient

[lament summit]

[cold matrix]

is this accurate in the sense of maybe resume screening? or is this strictly because of TC

[lunar hatch]

Been two weeks since my final rounds and my ddl is coming in 2 days😢

[waxen bolt]

It's based on user data. There's a head to head system

[torn escarp]

Guys, how can I cope with rejections better? I'm feeling a bit discouraged after getting rejected after final rounds at 2 startups

[hard flare]

Anyone know if u have to accept bb offer to attend their discovery day?

[wicked pendant]

no

its there to make ur mind up so technically u shouldnt be there if u alr accepted i think actually lmao

[lament summit]

u should followup

[rain patio]

isn't the whole point of prestige to get more pog reacts from clueless redditors

[late kestrel]

so you can walk around campus name dropping the company duh

[night magnet]

ya but what if there was rankings based soleley on TC - wouldn't that be useful

where u input yoe and it ranks by tc

[late kestrel]

like the people that come back from ghc with citadel sweatshirts lol

[night magnet]

like ya u could figure it out from levels but

[night magnet]

ghc?

[late kestrel]

grace hopper

[night magnet]

ahh

[west egret]

So chill af?

[night magnet]

omg the cloutchasers on linkedin

[late kestrel]

yup. could not have gone better or been easier

[night magnet]

"Im so blessed and foturnate to have been able to attend GHC. My life was forever changed and I met so many new and amazing connections!!"

[late kestrel]

linkedin moment

[modest night]

YEO

[grizzled bronze]

I mean, nothing wrong with that? They're just excited, and it is a good event for women to connect and get jobs

[modest night]

GUYS DOES SEATGEEK CALL TO REJECT?

[late kestrel]

it is a really good event, the "My life was forever changed" is usually a little over the top though

[last summit]

https://www.levels.fyi/leaderboard/Software-Engineer/All-Levels/country/United-States/

[night magnet]

idk how I missed this

thx

wtff clubhouse pays that much holy

[west egret]

I never bothered to make a LinkedIn post after internship. Basically just said to my team that I had a lot of fun and that they were very supportive in-person.

[night magnet]

ya

i just find it cringe but ig you do you

live ur best life

[west egret]

Let’s face it. People aren’t going to be on LinkedIn every day to check for your post.

[modest night]

Yeo pls someone advise

plssss

[west egret]

They’ll remember you being chill about it during the last team lunch prob lol

[night magnet]

dang didn't realize $HOOD pays so much for ng

are they even a thing anymore

[lament summit]

probably not

congrats on offer

🙂

[waxen bolt]

Maybe. But if you were scheduled for like a 30 minute call odds are you aren't gonna be rejected. Why would they schedule 30 minutes to reject you 🙂

[lament summit]

did they put a smiley face in the email

thats v importnat

[late kestrel]

thats across all levels

[night magnet]

ya so

wait what does that mean

thats like median for all swe's

[late kestrel]

not just new grad

no

[night magnet]

which is crazy

ya still

the median person makes 720k

[modest night]

its a quick call

[late kestrel]

oic

yeah thats pretty wild

prob only hire senior and up like netflix used to

[waxen bolt]

Those people are getting like 400k stock. Clubhouse isn't going to survive

[waxen bolt]

Well I'd still take it as a good sign. The recruiter could be doing better things than just rejected you 🙂

[night magnet]

326k base is cracked

ya this makes sense

if u said rsu is 400, and Tc is 726

wait ya its 230 base

nvm

ya i just did

230

[lunar hatch]

Followed up three times this week

[night magnet]

ik

[lunar hatch]

No single reply

[night magnet]

ya

ya

[waxen bolt]

Only if you're not the recruiter

[low scroll]

probably

[night magnet]

they booked meetings for the whole team and stuff

and blocked off time

[marble bronze]

🗞️ money

[night magnet]

wow I didn't realize G paid SDE2 more than amazon

I thought zon was the highest FAAG SDE2 pay

[wheat seal]

Can negotiate

[lament summit]

just say ur sick

[night magnet]

ya lowkey these #'s are super interesiting

[lament summit]

say u have foodpoisoning or something

[night magnet]

bc my friend got 240k SDE1 in NY

so I imagine SDE2 in NY is much higher (close to 400)

and bay/seattle is prob similar comp

[floral plank]

sig interview was weird af

Has anyone done on campus interview for bloomberg?

does on campus mean in person?

[lament summit]

yes

no to ur first question

[wheat seal]

Nah not 400k. That’s like senior swe

[late kestrel]

bro in my bb hr interview we talked about college football for legit half the interview 😂 😭

[wheat seal]

Other interviews went well?

[late kestrel]

yeah got lucky with em, rly easy behav stuff

[outer radish]

yo how often are you guys reviewing past leetcode questions

[wheat seal]

Not often. U don’t want to memorize

[tawdry snow]

if 2023_grad_process is for updates, where do we go to see process data?

[outer radish]

what if you have trouble with a question that you did in the past

but fully understood at the time

[calm shale]

the website

cscareers.dev

[timber rock]

that's fine but don't redo it over and over to the point that you start memorizing

[night magnet]

Ya ur right, median for sde2 NY is around 300

[outer radish]

naw i was thinking of doing a first/redo/done type thing for each question

[wheat seal]

Chances are u may not have unless it’s a LC easy.

So just wait awhile

like maybe even a month

And just do other questions in mean time

Ofc if ur studying tagged then just do it sooner

[timber rock]

oh i misread ur question

[wheat seal]

But if ur trying to learn

[timber rock]

i thought u meant redoing questions that you didnt manage the first time

[wheat seal]

Then it’s best to wait a long awhile before looking at it again

[regal parrot]

did facebook officially send emails saying no return fulltime offers for interns?

[wheat seal]

They just announced layoffs

So basically they won’t be yea

[outer radish]

yeah pmuch

[outer radish]

and ah true thats a good idea

[autumn ridge]

holy fb 15% layoff

[wheat seal]

It depends on ur goals. U studying tagged or trying to learn

[night magnet]

Is it true that fb is rescinding intern offers?

[winter loom]

is this something new or are you talking about the 10% mandatory NS rating

[night magnet]

I saw this some places but is there a reliable source?

[outer radish]

currently trying to grind to learn

or improve my overall skills for graph and tree type questions

[wheat seal]

They literally said that they will be reducing headcount for 2023

And that there will be reorgs

[wheat seal]

It was on the news

[wheat seal]

Yea then wait a month before looking at it again and in the team meantime do other questions

What I like to do too is take a glance at the discussion section for a hint

And then put the problem off for awhile

This is if u have loads of time

If ur interview is close then yea, not the best strat. But the best way to learn imo

[nocturne oriole]

The fb 15% thing is complicated yeah

PIP quota is real

Being fired as a result is debatable

But most cynics including me see it as a death sentence

In this climate if u get PIPd just get ready

@winter loom @autumn ridge

All big techs are tightening the belt one way or the other rn

Btw

[night magnet]

I wanted meta so badly last yr and they didn’t even open up ng this yr 😭

[regal parrot]

i spent 3 summers at fb but now they're not giving return offers lol

[night magnet]

Jesus

[night magnet]

This is insane

[lament summit]

Damn

[regal parrot]

yeah 🙃

[night magnet]

That’s actually one of the craziest things I’ve heard in this market

[stable wharf]

The market is going down boys

Facebook, Amazon, Google frozen

[timber rock]

wegot a year or two to grind lc

[stable wharf]

It’s a shit show

[night magnet]

I’m just happy to have a job thank god

Picked literally the worst year in human history to graduate early

[nocturne oriole]

Msft too

[stable wharf]

It’s hell fire out there

[regal parrot]

i decided to do a masters which is why im graduating this year instead of last year

[wheat seal]

Ull easily find something else tho

[regal parrot]

i haven't leetcoded in like 2 years tho so im hella rusty 😭

[thorn robin]

do yall usually cold emails HRs if not hear back after 1-2 weeks?

[night magnet]

At least msft is giving returns

[weak latch]

goog?

src on that pls

[night magnet]

G has been frozen for L3

[calm shale]

got zon offer today not frozen

[stable wharf]

They announced it very recently

[night magnet]

Congrats!!

[low scroll]

congrats bro

[stable wharf]

Congrats

[regal parrot]

congrats!!

[tawdry snow]

Huge

[floral plank]

congrats!!

[wheat seal]

Company?

[honest sundial]

Only Zon consumer/retail is frozen

[wheat seal]

Oh gotchu

C1 is nice

TDP program?

[night magnet]

Ya

Idk all my friends are at better places 😭

[honest sundial]

AWS is still hiring, which is a majority of the SDE roles

[wheat seal]

I’d take that for stability tho

[night magnet]

Ig

[wheat seal]

1+ yr ft experience

Tho

[night magnet]

I just want aws so bad. Praying for an OA every day Fr Fr

[honest sundial]

Student programs can place u into AWS

[wheat seal]

Which?

From target schools?

[night magnet]

2080728

[wheat seal]

Haven’t heard of that before

[night magnet]

Normal SDE1

[honest sundial]

Student programs = the general intern/new grad pipeline

[wheat seal]

They froze that

[night magnet]

🧢

[wheat seal]

That’s why I was saying they are only hiring 1+yr experience rn according to the apps they have available

[night magnet]

He literally just said he got an offer

[wheat seal]

Ik

But he interviewed before

Now

[night magnet]

Oh u mean right now

I see

[wheat seal]

Yes

[ivory stratus]

They’re still opening up for new grads

[night magnet]

Is 2080728 closed?

[crystal fern]

If a company know I have a full-time offer, would they be less likely to consider me for a winter intern position?

[night magnet]

Yes

The case in general

[wheat seal]

Haven’t seen anyone here do an interview recently

[night magnet]

Bc intern is for ng

[ivory stratus]

My recruiter posted positions for new grad last week and told me she would process me when she’s done moving

[foggy perch]

student programs (FT) seem frozen in general tho

[ivory stratus]

Maybe it’s just for vets but should be ng

[floral plank]

over what?

[timber rock]

amzn resume rejected me once and has so far ghosted me for another

[night magnet]

Wdym

It’s open

[wheat seal]

I mean c1 is good for stability. Not comparing

[night magnet]

Banks/finance in general ig but I’d take zon over c1

[wheat seal]

Yea it is but it’s extremely slow rn. Ig it isn’t frozen

[night magnet]

Source?

[wheat seal]

I mean I would just chill tbh. With c1 in this market

[night magnet]

Ya

[ivory stratus]

They’re just getting through the waitlist first

[wheat seal]

There’s a waitlist

[night magnet]

I’m so curious how the RNG OA system works

Bc it’s def not by application date

Wonder what other factors it takes into account

[calm shale]

recruiters still resume screen right?

[floral plank]

What is the process for bloomberg after on campus interview?

[late kestrel]

think its still generic, em/hr after

[night magnet]

Not sure when the recruiter screen happens tho. Is it pre OA1, OA2, after OA2, idk

Bc my friends (target school) have gotten zon offers with literally zero experience (fr, just fast food and retail experience) by doing well on the OAs

[calm shale]

ya it's pretty random

[floral plank]

Amazon resume screen before OA, they just send more compared to others

[night magnet]

Interesting

[calm shale]

i still havent received SDE oa yet for this season

[old vector]

has anyone used the @lru_cache decroator for dp problems during an interview? or will they not allow that?

[sudden depot]

is anyone else dealing with this on linkedin when u click on the "Jobs" tab?

[night magnet]

Same

[floral plank]

I have seen freshman gotten in amazon depsite no expereince

[calm shale]

even tho last year i got OA for internship

[uncut umbra]

try reloading?

[calm shale]

and this year I have cb on my resume

[uncut umbra]

also could be linkedin servers down

[sudden depot]

i have lol

[calm shale]

last year i had nothing

[uncut umbra]

cb? coinbase?

[wheat seal]

Coinbase?

[calm shale]

ya

so idfk how they do their screen

[wheat seal]

CB from 2021?

[calm shale]

cb this past summer

[wheat seal]

How lol

[calm shale]

wym

[wheat seal]

Didn’t they just do layoffs in march?

[earnest summit]

clear cache and cookies

[wheat seal]

But u were still able to get summer 2022 cb internship

@calm shale

[night magnet]

I know other ppl who got cb offers for summer

[wheat seal]

Oh that’s really odd

[prime palm]

just flopped scale ai phone ama

😔

[night magnet]

But I did hear they rescinded some offers (not sure if intern or FTE)

[wheat seal]

They rescinded a bunch in march/April

[calm shale]

layoff was in june, and it was fulltime

[wheat seal]

Oh I see

[calm shale]

150 ppl still joined as summer interns

no one was affected

fall interns are alive and well rn as well

[wheat seal]

Oh interesting

Are they hiring ng?

[rich night]

citadel technical LC tagged or?

[calm shale]

no

[wheat seal]

Okay. So as interns u worked in projects that go to prod?

[rain patio]

how do satisfactory reference checks work? would i need to provide them and should i be scared about it?

[wheat seal]

Im guessing

[calm shale]

yes? lol why

[wheat seal]

It makes sense

Most of the time intern projects never see prod

[night magnet]

Holy

150??!?

That’s massive

[wheat seal]

?

150 swe intern

[night magnet]

I feel like that’s so much

[calm shale]

ya that's how much they hired last fall, so everything was good

[night magnet]

For a company of cb size

Idk maybe not

[calm shale]

they didn't rescind any of the intern offers

[lime current]

pretty sure they rescinded every new grad offers except for returning interns

^ coinbase

[calm shale]

^correct

[lime current]

source: 3 friends work there

[wheat seal]

Oh so return offers were still good

[lime current]

yea

[wheat seal]

But with coinbase, it’s like in a bad state rn tho no?

Like market just crashed

[sudden depot]

that worked. thanks!

[wheat seal]

Is coinbase b2b or b2c?

[lime current]

both

[calm shale]

lmao

[lime current]

they have institutional trading targeted for trading firms

[calm shale]

thats like asking are we in a recession rn?

[lime current]

and then coinbase.com for peasants like us

[wheat seal]

But I mean oh that makes sense then for why they didn’t layoff massively

Cuz Robinhood did

[lime current]

the situation at CB is bad rn

they dont have enough headcount

[wheat seal]

No I just mean like I thought they were purely b2c. And was suprised they didn’t layoff like Robinhood

[lime current]

PRs take forever to be reviewed lol

[calm shale]

they literally did, 18%

[wheat seal]

Wlb is shitty ? I wouldn’t mind tho.

[calm shale]

i would say a fifth of the company is massive

[lime current]

@calm shale did you do IXL OA?

[wheat seal]

18%? Expensive engineers?

U said they took return interns

And even had interns

So seems like

[calm shale]

ya

[wheat seal]

They just wanted cheap engineers

[calm shale]

not mutually exclusive

basically

[wheat seal]

Yea ik

[calm shale]

i didnt lol, i forgot to do it

[wheat seal]

But they just kept low levels like SDE 1 and 2

But then sacked everyone above ?

[calm shale]

no 18 was across the board

[wheat seal]

For all levels?

[calm shale]

all levels, all orgs

[wheat seal]

Oh damn

Cb is really weird then

How they lay off and hire

Seems a bit odd

[calm shale]

zucks actually living his best life

[wheat seal]

He should give up half of his net worth for thinking of metaverse. And give it back to his company

Since tbh one of the big reasons why the company is in a bad spot

They lost billions already

To metaverse

U don’t really want revenue to be up no? U really want profit to increase

Right

Yea they are losing out to TikTok

But also metaverse was a dumb idea that caused them to lose massive amounts

Billions of dollars

Like I think 10 billion

But it won’t really work because meta doesn’t value privacy

It’s just an odd position to be in

Most ppl are

I think

[calm shale]

nah

most ppl are not

they like to think they are, but are not

[wheat seal]

50% of instagram accounts are private

[small mountain]

...

[calm shale]

bc then you wouldn't use tiktok, google, g suite, amazon, etc

if u really cared about privacy

[small mountain]

merely using instagram means you dont care

[calm shale]

^

[wheat seal]

How so?

[small mountain]

you just proved this

have you ever read their terms and conditions

[calm shale]

you are giving up privacy by uploading photos to meta servers and giving your user behavior to all the ad agencies they sell to

[wheat seal]

By that definition no 1 has privacy

[calm shale]

there's no privacy on the internet lol

[small mountain]

check out tosdr.org for a summary on top corporations' privacy policies

[wheat seal]

And also that wasn’t even the question

People prefer privacy

[calm shale]

meta is just as bad about privacy as any other company

[wheat seal]

It’s the truth. That’s part of the reason why meta has been losing so much cash

[small mountain]

theres definitely good practices that protect you heavily but yeah theres no 100%

[wheat seal]

No it’s worse

Meta is literally in legal trouble

[small mountain]

meta is far worse honestly

[wheat seal]

Because of it

That’s why metaverse wont succeed honestly

Whose trusting them

[calm shale]

idk i think metaverse is a cool idea

[timber rock]

not to mention the entire metaverse thing being the dumbest idea ever

[calm shale]

they might be too early for it to take off

[wheat seal]

It’s a cool idea but not for meta. Too many privacy violations

[stable wharf]

I want to send my recruiter an email but I feel like it would sound desperate

[calm shale]

but who knows if they keep hacking at it for the next 5-10 years what will come out of it

[timber rock]

its "cool" but its never going to be mainstream lol

[wheat seal]

Yea like just go outside

[calm shale]

like if what's in ready player one becomes partially true, i think tht's pretty pog

[small mountain]

lol

[timber rock]

no chance im ever sitting with a vr headset on to go to meetings

[wheat seal]

It’s depressing just to be on the internet

Lol

Yea they can

[small mountain]

not even the owners, any other server member also

[calm shale]

hows that different from pulling up google meet or zoom or whatever

[wheat seal]

I don’t post anything that would give up my privacy so no it hasn’t

But that’s not the question tho

[calm shale]

the vr meeting demo meta did is better than the video meetings we have rn i think

[small mountain]

VR headset has a high cost barrier of entry. they're not cheap enough and widespread enough

[timber rock]

cause i can just open zoom and turn on a camera

[wheat seal]

People prefer privacy lol

[small mountain]

unlike a smartphone or laptop to join a meeting

[timber rock]

no need for vr headset and a fkn virtual avatar lol

[wheat seal]

Trust me who the hell is going to say they don’t want privacy

Ofc ppl do

[calm shale]

true its far from viable

just talking about in 10 years or more

i think it's dumb to say it'll never take off

bc who knows

ppl said tvs would never take off, but look where we are

[grizzled bronze]

I find it hard to take seriously if people are joining as video game characters in meetings

[small mountain]

that depends on how profitable they can prove it to be and how many other corporations jump on. doesn't seem likely at all, rather just a new phase like NFTs were

[wheat seal]

It’s just going to add more depression. Ppl need to touch grass and enjoy life more

[maiden ice]

How much is J.P. Morgan ng

[calm shale]

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/jpmorgan-chase/salaries/software-engineer?yoeChoice=junior&yacChoice=new-only

[calm shale]

ya tru that

[night magnet]

No one wants to walk around with a VR headset

[calm shale]

im just slightly more optimistic about it i guess

[night magnet]

That’s the main issue imo

[timber rock]

i think it matters more what the workers think of it

can you imagine trying to teach 90% of people over the age of 40 how to use a vr headset

half of them can barely work zoom

[grizzled bronze]

Not to mention VR still sucks right now

[small mountain]

i get hella motion sickness

[grizzled bronze]

Screen door effect is still there

And it requires powerful computers for "good" VR

[wheat seal]

Yea ik

All those things I said

I could easily be lying tho

So really doesn’t matter lol

[small mountain]

unlikely if all those bits of information accurately profile to a real person

[wheat seal]

?

Yes I know all the things I said

But it doesn’t matter I could easily be lying

And Ud never know

[small mountain]

it isnt a lie though is it

[wheat seal]

Okay I work at google now actually

2022 google new grad

Lol but seriously. I could be Qualcomm or qualtrics or anything

Ud just never know

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-chicanery-breakdown-gif-25422432

[timber rock]

my name is walter hartwell white i live at 308 negra arroyo lane

[vestal pelican]

can someone share the radix trading new grad posting

[night magnet]

This is act crazy but not surprising

[floral plank]

what a sick joke

[night magnet]

I know ur a Canadian at twilio that’s about it. Could prob dox tho if I looked harder

[small mountain]

one of the best scenes in the whole universe imo

[night magnet]

Wait

Challenge

Can u guys try to dox me

I’m curious

[calm shale]

half of us shared linkedin in #socials lol

[wheat seal]

I mean tbh I could be at Qualcomm or another company. I really could be anyone

So that’s why I don’t really care to post that

Stuff

[floral plank]

breaking and bcs are so good

watched it over the summer and it was a journey

[wheat seal]

Yea I remember everything I post here

[small mountain]

waltuh

[wheat seal]

But I could easily lie about my race and school

Not unless u know me

I could easily pick a profile from online and say it’s me

[calm shale]

gave my best 3 min shot, no luck

[wheat seal]

It’s silly really to argue this lol

[night magnet]

Nicee

@cedar nebula do me

[wheat seal]

Not really

Ppl can easily lie

[sudden depot]

is it just me or have companies as of late slowed down in posting new grad listings?

[timber rock]

yes

[wheat seal]

Discord isn’t merged with LinkedIn

[calm shale]

recession bro

[timber rock]

lots of companies not hiring

[wheat seal]

There’s literally no way to actually confirm it for sure. Unless u know me

[stable wharf]

I did it

[timber rock]

i know you

[sudden depot]

yea lol but some companies were posting. now I dont see anything haha

[wheat seal]

Ppl do care about their privacy. I wasn’t saying they are turtles though

That hide from society

[small mountain]

and the uk seems to be very delayed, companies that would be open by september havent even opened

[timber rock]

i've pretty much applied to every grad role on linkedin and i check daily

and im not even at 30 yet

[calm shale]

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023

[small mountain]

but they prefer convenience over privacy

[calm shale]

pretty sure theres more than 30 there

[timber rock]

those are like 99% US lol

[wheat seal]

Yes

[calm shale]

ohh didnt catch the uk part

[wheat seal]

That’s a good way to put it

[small mountain]

i suppose the bar is lower in the UK though?

[timber rock]

probably

[small mountain]

the competition seems far lower in my limited experience

[night magnet]

Why

[timber rock]

we usually have less rounds i think

[small mountain]

the US is cutthroat

[night magnet]

Less supply?

[timber rock]

its usually just oa > 1 final interview

[small mountain]

yep

[small mountain]

plenty of supply but we also get paid peanuts, and theres far fewer applicants in general

[wheat seal]

Also u need a school email to join

So that wouldn’t work

Unless u know someone at my school

And u use their email

U get an email confirmation

[bleak raven]

drumroll please

[wheat seal]

Cuz if not then everyone would just join in every school server

[bleak raven]

it is time for a name change

[small mountain]

privacy doesnt just mean between users, corporations make profiles of you that they track you with across all major platforms on the internet. say you signed up with your main email or your phone number

[wheat seal]

Offer?!

[bleak raven]

no

i changed my name back

fuck the west coast

[wheat seal]

Yea which is why Facebook got into legal trouble

[bleak raven]

nyc it is

[small mountain]

google and tiktok are just as nefarious

[wheat seal]

Nop lol

Facebook is worse

Facebook has 0 sense of privacy

[small mountain]

and legal trouble doesnt stop them because the penalties are a few million which is just the cost of business for them

[wheat seal]

U literally have to use ur real name

[small mountain]

google is just as bad homie

[wheat seal]

On fb

But even still no company is perfect

Facebook tho being a social media platform and not sticking to privacy is what is alarming

I think every company has their flaws though ofc

[timber rock]

i'll sit here and shit talk fb all day for privacy concerns but at the end of the day they pay enough money for me to ignore those lol

[small mountain]

yeah i'll sell my soul to the devil

palantir tho 💀

[delicate cloak]

so do they expect you to verbalize your thought process while coding during a Karat interview? I feel like their FAQ has conflicting info on this

[calm shale]

urf is back

[calm shale]

they are improving the world

[small mountain]

srs?

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural

[wheat seal]

U work at fb?

[timber rock]

no

[wheat seal]

Yea I’d work for palantir still lol

I was just saying that people care about privacy but aren’t hermits

[timber rock]

but there arent many jobs i wouldnt do for 200k

[dense cloud]

palantir is evil is copium ill only use if i get rejected

[wheat seal]

Like u said convenience over privacy

@small mountain

But they still care

[small mountain]

amen

[modest stream]

Got a hirevue request from Boeing. Is this progress or does everyone get it?

[ivory stratus]

Not everyone gets it

Also hirevue sucks

If you can’t go back, once you see a question it gives you 60 seconds to prep then 4 minutes to respond. You can close out of that tab and it will stop time so if you want more time to prep a question, just close tab and open interview again

[timber rock]

look up firevue

cough cough

on github

vodafone's hirevue thing was the worst

they make you watch a video and respond to it but your 60 sec preparation time starts counting down before you've even clicked the video

[small mountain]

one-way interviews are the bane of my existence

[timber rock]

and it feels like every company does them

[dusky plover]

LFGGG

[bronze nymph]

you can probably find it

it obviously won't be as liquid as amazon

id guess 130-140 liquid comp per year, rest paper

i doubt it's 160k cash, but it's possible i guess

maybe y1 with sign on, but don't think its recurring

[smoky lodge]

Ayo guys it turns out that if you're a student you can collect like ~$1000 in anti-inflation stimulus under the federal unemployment tax act

Google “FUTA inflation” to learn more

[uncut umbra]

bruh as someone who used to be on deviantart and tumblr in their respective hey deys.

fucking don't.

[bleak anchor]

the next day for me as well

[tawdry snow]

Hello, I am 2 for 2 on applications leading to final interviews

lazygang rise up

[bleak anchor]

How many new grads does Roblox hire?

[small mountain]

@autumn ridge fucking congrats dude

[autumn ridge]

ty!

[small mountain]

i remember when they were ghosting you consecutively lol GG

[dusky plover]

@cedar nebula from what i hear they are reducing comp this year

20% reduction
190-200

150 base and like 170/4 + no signing bonus bc CTO doesnt want it

ye

is linkedin jobs web page fuckin broken

wtf

[jaunty basalt]

I would take Amazon over

But still interview

You never know what you might end up liking

[lime current]

anyone got pinterest/circle recruiter email lmao

[dusky plover]

oh this is for US fam

[lime current]

my recruiter not responding :((

[dusky plover]

🤨 thats a fat cap

holy shit

im sorry every1

my NA brain assumed u said 200usd

yea it checks out

[normal palm]

stripe does too i think? or at least near it

and pinterest if im correct

oh base

[dusky plover]

pinterest is higher

[normal palm]

i thought u meant tc

idk if i wanna work for stripe

i went to a career fair and talked to one of the engineering managers there, was incredibly rude to me

[faint igloo]

isnt stripe not hiring ng anyway

[dusky plover]

why do i automatically associate stripe with plaid 🤔 yea neither company is opening this fall imo

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz they’re the same

[dusky plover]

bro isnt BB just a newspaper company :3

[jaunty basalt]

[west egret]

Bro I’m seeing so much talk of Bloomberg. Legit scared it’s going to fill up before I even have VO finished.

[dusty basin]

He’s not wrong ^

[west egret]

Worst case they ghost you. Best case they respond.

[late kestrel]

bro my recruiter today was like "youd join 20-40 other peers in our nyc office next summer" and im like "theres no way in hell its max of 40 ppl"

[west egret]

Bro if it’s 40 I’m fucked lol

[foggy perch]

i'm actually so curious how many NGs there'll be lmao

[west egret]

There’s probably 30 BB NGs from this server alone

[jaunty basalt]

That’s the size of ur training class

[foggy perch]

altho i'm joining before summer

oh that makes more sense

[jaunty basalt]

We don’t have any revenue in news

[late kestrel]

he rly made it sound as if that was the whole cohort

[west egret]

@jaunty basalt if you’re our interviewer will you give us two sum?

[late kestrel]

but yeah coulda interpreted it wrong

[jaunty basalt]

I’ll give you one sum

[knotty talon]

I had the phone screen w/ Datadog this monday

And I haven’t heard back

[foggy perch]

I'm ready to give all t10 cs school people LC Impossibles

[west egret]

But I never did that question

[knotty talon]

although I answered both questions

[west egret]

🥹

[knotty talon]

Should I panic

[foggy perch]

maybe

[knotty talon]

I’d feel dead inside if I got rejected after answering both their questions

O well

[late kestrel]

give all the strongest warriors their toughest battles fr fr

[foggy perch]

gotta level the playing field obviously

[west egret]

“Design BB terminal in 30 minutes”

[foggy perch]

if you're a cmu kid and can't give me binary search in O(1) time insta reject

[deep wasp]

Hey I’m really new to this. What can I expect them to ask?

[weak latch]

technical questions

probably lc

[stoic belfry]

this true?

[smoky lodge]

Yes.

[lilac siren]

yes

[smoky lodge]

Can confirm

[normal palm]

trust me bro

[ivory stratus]

Very much true

Few of us in here had finals and they got canceled

[dusky plover]

what comp?

oh wait im blind its f5

[fallen fox]

is amazon still sending oas for the winter?

[gleaming fable]

https://otta.com/rocketlist/us/2022 for peeps trying to get into a startup

def a good list to check out

[stoic belfry]

dam wth

[teal jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512551721952608266/1027682081163182180/unknown.png

[iron storm]

anyone do radix?

[floral plank]

For Bloomberg final, did they tell you guys to apply again?

[glacial pine]

no?

[nova vale]

Would you guys cancel on sites if you got an offer you would take over it, or do it for experience

[glacial pine]

cancel lmao

tired of interviewing stress

but unless the other company is open to negotiate

[floral plank]

did you have on campus interview?

[glacial pine]

no i did the whole process remote

[floral plank]

ok

[foggy perch]

cancel lmao

i'm burnt out enough from this shit

no way am I doing interviews for places I don't even want offer from

[timber rock]

Do it in case the other one starts rescinding lmao

[grizzled bronze]

I would cancel unless it was a better offer that I'd renege the other one for

[chilly burrow]

I rejected a startup on dis list for a startup not on it 💀

[west pagoda]

Idk I would do for experience. Who cares, it’s like 1 hour

[nova vale]

It’s 3 hours and I’m interning rn

So it’s kind of a large commitment, but I think it’s worth it and there’s not too much of a downside

[foggy perch]

idk what 1 hour onsites you're having

onsites I've seen are usually 3+ hours

[livid citrus]

anyone hear back after peak6 oa?

[late kestrel]

yeah. a mf reject 🥱😎

[livid citrus]

how long after?

[late kestrel]

idk maybe a week or two later

[delicate cloak]

can someone who did Palantir Karat interview redo + cancellation elaborate on the cancellation part

i'm seeing a lot of that when i search lol

[last belfry]

did ur recruiter get back

[floral plank]

yea

[last belfry]

VO?

[teal jackal]

Don't read too deeply into it

[floral plank]

Mine is on campus

[teal jackal]

Anyways some recruiters will cancel the redo request if it's good enough the first time

[last belfry]

oh wat we go to same school lol they on campus

[floral plank]

I guess

[lament summit]

T10?

why doesnt bloomberg come to my campus

[delicate cloak]

how far apart do people schedule the redos that the recruiters have time to look at the results and cancel the second

i solved 2 during mine and feel like i should redo but not sure when to schedule it

[teal jackal]

I did mine 2 days apart

[solemn crag]

Just got Palantir Karat

But not sure for intern/NG cuz I applied both

[floral plank]

No I am at a state school

Idek if it is in person or nah

[last belfry]

when they coming?

[floral plank]

I can't even schedule it

Seems they have ran out of dates or something

[teal jackal]

Don't a lot of us pass screening anyways

[trail siren]

Does anyone know how long does C1 take to reply after powerday?

[teal jackal]

So school prestige not that important for bbg

[floral plank]

Yea you pretty much need to have some experience

[solemn crag]

What's Palantir process like

Is that the same for intern

(Applied both out of panic)

[clever orbit]

Is getting 2 questions correct good enough for palantir karat?

[solemn crag]

How many questions are there for karat

[floral plank]

3

[calm shale]

is bb terminal the only product at bb?

[solemn crag]

thx

[calm shale]

*profitable product

[last belfry]

is your recruiter initial TB?

[indigo raft]

I did 2 + talked through 3rd and passed

[delicate cloak]

I did mine 2 days apart

[floral plank]

yea

[delicate cloak]

apparently, i solved 2 just now, scheduled a redo, then immediately got the cancellation confirmation that they're going to move forward

[lament summit]

for 2 it depends how well u explained ur solution

ive heard ppl who solved 2 and failed

[delicate cloak]

yeah it's probably not black and white

they score you on multiple things

[solemn crag]

Does karat score you?

[ebon quiver]

has anyone heard of pee oee

pee pee

the company?

j finished a five hour onsite Jesus

[jaunty basalt]

Can’t wait for the comedians to come around

[wicked rivet]

do uk if i got to hm round during intern but dropped, if they let u skip

if so, i might message my old recruiter lol

[timber rock]

what did people write for palantir when they ask why you chose swe over fdse

[jaunty basalt]

There you are

[night magnet]

troll?

[timber rock]

my reason is that fdse sounds like living hell but idk if they wanna hear that

[night magnet]

dont wanna be client facing

[timber rock]

my passion is for building products!

[jaunty basalt]

[whole berry]

how is headlands OA?

[ebon quiver]

has anyone heard of the company we pay?

how is hot not on careers tf

[teal jackal]

i dont hate client facing necessarily, just i wouldnt have the heart to do it at palantir

i dont want to work with the government on some dystopian ass shit

[last summit]

i hear "i dont like any of palantir's clients" is the cheatcode to skip you straight to onsite

[teal jackal]

palantir does have many legitimate businesses as clients though

yeah id mentally quit if i got put with the ICE

[timber rock]

might give this one a shot

[teal jackal]

bro wasnt that supposed to be ironic

i wouldnt dare to say that

[timber rock]

obviously

[teal jackal]

ah im just dense

[timber rock]

i have heard that they often dont tell you how long youre away for lol

[delicate cloak]

yes, but you don't get to see your score obviously

pretty much every tech interviewer uses a rubric

[teal jackal]

for why palantir i said that i thought that palantir has an interesting idea and product

[timber rock]

i want to be an swe so that i can destroy the government's processes from within

[teal jackal]

software to assist with decision making shit

peter thiel is kinda sussy tbh

[timber rock]

cant do that if im stuck in rural italy working on some water well's website for 6 months

[teal jackal]

dystopian fascist

[waxen bolt]

Be careful palantir is probably reading these messages

[timber rock]

surely they value honesty

[ebon quiver]

anyone heard of we pay

or not

[timber rock]

yes ive heard of it

[twilit wasp]

is your recruiter charlotte?

[ebon quiver]

what have u heard about it

[river scroll]

anyone who had a bloomberg interview last thursday hear back ?

[timber rock]

i just know its a payment service

[ebon quiver]

rip

breh i j had a 6 hour onsite

6 friggin hours

why is every tom dick and harry

asking for 6 hour onsites

[west egret]

What company?

[ebon quiver]

we pay

[timber rock]

if you're asking me i haven't sent my app yet

[west egret]

Never heard of them

[ebon quiver]

sad

me neither