2023_grads

[vast rock]

in the internal Q&A zuck specifically said bootcamp grad is frozen, they will be given small tasks to do but they just wont allocate hc for a specific team. They will still get paid and continue so until the reogs are done

the point is zuck wants to cut up bad teams

bootcampers will get rekt if they join a team that will be rekt

[wicked pendant]

i was, i canceled my final but idk if i could answer anything

[topaz elk]

Lmao

[vast rock]

google wont gimme interview

me sado

literally got googl last year

[dusty basin]

Bro ngl. I see you here always talking about giving perfect interviews but being rejected regardless. Have you considered giving mocks or something to get feedback

[wicked pendant]

ahh yeah no clue, i know some google returns still dont have offers so theyre mega backed up on processing packets but thats all

[vast rock]

internal post corrected the rumor to be 10%. 10% is official but 10% need support has always been there, it's not new.

but maybe they will pip ppl getting NS rather than being more lenient before

[uncut umbra]

google apm lmao

[vast rock]

i re-applied this year im not even getting recruiter reachout

[uncut umbra]

I have my initial call in a couple of weeks

[dusty basin]

Yeah. Communication is a bigger factor than people give it credit for in interviews tbh

[vast rock]

my goog recruiter from last year not at goog anymore lol idk who to talk to even

[young peak]

My perspective on that was that when you're in here especially, things seem way more competitive than it seems. The outside world is struggling way harder on cracking these interviews, and most don't even try to. They've settled for local jobs, continuing academia or switched fields entirely.

We're hardset grinding on this and we're all competent enough to land these positions. When I failed Hubspot and Roblox finals, I became wildly depressed but I still trugged on. Sure I sacrificed a few things here and there, namely my mental health and exercise, but I didn't just wallow in despair

[vast rock]

its so sad

[dusty basin]

Get back to work yogi

[formal fable]

Mocked on pramp and with friends of mine, one SWE III at Google who also does freelance works on contract on the side and is an expert in backend distributed systems.

Got them to review my resume, interview me a couple of times and noted feedback. Far from negative, had less than 1-2 points of improvement (basic ones) only on high level system design. I can code algos far better than them.

I try hard to not get stuck in my own echo chamber and cross-validate my "truth" from unbiased sources to the best of abilities.

I also have been working for over 4 years across 3 firms with exemplary feedback year on year after which I left for grad school. I also interviewed candidates for my last company.

So yeah, I got some data to back my hypothesis and perception of good/bad interviews.

[vast rock]

OH wait so u did none ng posting?

WAIT u arent ng then that makes sense actually if u have 10 months of exp

[uncut umbra]

it's the 45 minute phone interview

[vast rock]

yeah

i mean not entirely not like completelys eparate like amazon

but like im pretty sure i can't do what u did

[uncut umbra]

appreciate bro, gl in the process

[tardy geode]

anyone gave bloomberg phone? (1st round)

[rustic vessel]

Anybody have experience with roblox hm round?

[vast rock]

i can ping another recruiter my friend had

nah

im strictly doing ng rn

[formal fable]

Trying hard to fix my schedule mate. I stopped everything for past 3-4 months cause, somehow, my instincts tell me that if I punish myself enough, it'll lead to greater things.

But I am aware of fallacy of this philosophy. Just find it hard to execute on a better one.

[young peak]

I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about personality

You sure you got your soft skills covered?

[vast rock]

dec 2022

[young peak]

I doubt I'm a better dev than you, so that's where I'd think the biggest difference would be

[dense cloud]

u got a ng offer last year?

[vast rock]

oh wait 2021 but its for 2022 grad yes

[dense cloud]

oh i see i got return internship offer, tryna get back rn 😭

probably cant skip interviews then

[vast rock]

delayed grad (or changed from early to a more normal)

[young peak]

Yeah just lean off the LC prep and touch grass a bit bro

[vast rock]

dude i think ft experience matters a lot

[formal fable]

Well, look, I'm the one talking about myself here so obviously the data is biased. But here's my data points on that. I worked with cross-functional teams in my job 2, handled a team of non-tech folks while delivering tech outcomes to business folks.

3rd job, engaged 4 month long projects leading team of 5 engineers, a project manager and daily calls with a business (non-tech) client in a large insurance company. Got promoted within 1 year of joining to SSWE. Cannot make senior without soft skills, I think.

Now, does that make me "the best candidate ever"? Of course not. But do I need to be the best to land a 0 exp NG offer that matches the HCOL of NYC or Bay? I mean c'mon

[vast rock]

10 months of ft expereince is way better than none

esp for industry hires

[teal jackal]

tbh we all have high expectations in life

[late kestrel]

ngl just the way you type @formal fable id imagine it might be the communication stuff thats gets ya, if youre really that good at algos

[young peak]

Wtf you're applying for L3 positions even though you're senior? Also that last bit about being the best is just not true

[formal fable]

Haha. Typing here != Speaking interviews

[dusty basin]

^

[formal fable]

I'm applying everywhere mate. Need offers, right?

[late kestrel]

yeah but... like... its kinda hard to call it a coincidence

[formal fable]

L3,L4, some L5 even

[dusty basin]

It kinda does reflect your personality ngl

[slate bobcat]

What does that say about me

[young peak]

It's alright man we were all there once

I think I was worse at this point last year

[late kestrel]

i just get my interviewers to start talking about college football or basketball and boom, im in 😎

[young peak]

Different economy, different hiring bar but overall I think you're just not chill enough @formal fable

[vast rock]

wait is amazon 6 months frozen if u fail interview? what about OA?

[formal fable]

Well, we are within the context of a person being grilled for "discouraging folks from negotiating or giving bad advice". I'm obviously gonna be rather.... terse or abrasive on this discord chat. Apart from that, I tried very hard to present data points and not just plain opinion. Rest is up to interpretation.

[dusty basin]

No comment kush

[young peak]

Don't wanna discredit folks from last year since they're all great too but yeah this year is pretty rough I can't lie

[late kestrel]

nah its not the things you say, its the way you type and the vocab you use lol

[formal fable]

What good has chill done for me so far? I graduate in 3 months. I'm an international and the offer I have does not do justice to the COL of the City where the company office is.

[dusty basin]

He started interviewing earlier this year bro. When a lot of us were still getting offers. His 2023 grad date probably caused issues but @rain patio and a few others also have offers for 2023 dates a while ago

Yes this year is super rough

[pure mauve]

worst grad time

[vast rock]

the thing is next. year may not get better

2024 could be worse

[dusty basin]

But @formal fable apparently has experience

[formal fable]

Not saying last year's folks didn't put in the work. But last year's opinion is heavily skewed by a drastically different hiring climate and the advice often tends to be delusional and sometimes, too preachy to those who're struggling in a completely different and objectively worse situation.

[dusty basin]

Which puts them in a different position as a candidate than ng

[austere grove]

you'llt ell this story to ur kids

[vast rock]

i hesitate between going to a way lower tier lower TC company VS doing a 1yr masters (which tbh, isnt much safer)

[austere grove]

the early 20s

back when i use dto be rich

[autumn ridge]

yee it's bad out here

[peak ferry]

I’m going to be honest I agree with the others and say you come off extremely abrasive in a way that I’d be surprised if interviewers haven’t noted even if you’re ofc not as openly abrasive in interviews. I got the impression from a lot of my interviews that they tend to care rather significantly about whether you seem like a pleasant person to work with.

[autumn ridge]

It would be interesting to know the actual numbers. Like what is the % decrease in positions

[formal fable]

I'd love it if they could tell us at least what went wrong. I ask them. Was it the joining date, or some particular round? Radio silence the moment the rejection email arrives

[uncut umbra]

I asked my uni's cs major-specific career advisor who's been working since the 2000 dot com burst. even then, cs grads were getting jobs within a few months, and he doesn't anticipate there being a dearth of jobs in general so much as a dearth of jobs at the top level

[autumn ridge]

Also maybe I'm just dumb or the difficulty ramps up more than I thought from intern to new grad but the LC questions on OAs and in interviews have been way harder then I expected

[teal jackal]

yeah you cant openly act like that

or let that attitude spill out to others

[autumn ridge]

Almost every company at some point is asking LC hards now

[peak ferry]

and afaik we’ve been applying to jobs in the same time window, so it’s not like I’m from 2021/early 2022 before the market tightened fyi

[autumn ridge]

and lots of DP

[young peak]

That's such a weird way to construe advice. Bro you're a SWE, I'm sure you know how to sift through the bullshit at least a bit. I tend to give advice here because I think it's only right I try to help, but I don't want people to just copy paste my steps because I doubt it'd work today. Understanding where I came from, then trying to apply it as best as you can to your situation - that's the only thing I want y'all to do

[formal fable]

Circumstances mate, not just the hiring, but being dissected in the server when trying to discuss the hiring scene.

[young peak]

Calling out advice delusional ain't getting you offers, well not that you have any but y'know same point stands

[dusty basin]

“Not that you have any” 💀

[formal fable]

I did not go after anyone giving advice, btw. Delusional, good , bad, not my place to lecture others.

I just got lectured when I gave my advice. I might not have made that clear.

[young peak]

Bro you work at Zoom tf you mean average ,

[teal jackal]

bro even youre on the jpow hate train now

welcome aboard

[dusty basin]

🧢

[last summit]

yeah you did actually

[teal jackal]

what is even going on

[young peak]

"tends to be delusional and sometimes too preachy" idk man not my words

[peak ferry]

circumstances are different now but imho advice remains unchanged. ime in this market “perfect interviews” do not lead to rejects 100% of the time. I’ve done technically imperfect interviews and gotten offers in 2/4 cases

[young peak]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-the-cap-cap-laugh-video-reaction-youtuber-gif-18293251

[teal jackal]

how badly?

y

[safe rune]

oof

[formal fable]

Act like what? I'd love to know. I assumed by "chill", he meant like in a self-imposing kind of way. I do not regularly go around barking at everyone in the server. I discuss ongoing events, offer my thoughts, just like everyone.

I try hard to not comment on anyone else's opinion, unless, I am being put down for offering my opinion or basically slandered. Which did happen, btw. Just search my name in other channels right after I "gave horrible negotiation advice"

[uncut umbra]

because kwasi koarteng was like "what if we eliminated a gigantic portion of tax and raised taxes on the lower class"

so the fucking bank of england had to step in

[dusty basin]

Disagreement != putting someone down

[uncut umbra]

the pound dropped like a fucking stone

it's also liz truss

being fucking delusional

[teal jackal]

i think that entitlement looks bad and nobody likes that kind of mentality

its okay if you keep it to yourself, im guilty of it too and im trying to fight it

[uncut umbra]

which class?

[young peak]

I get what you mean though. Hard to fight a wave alone, and we're here to fight it with you. Just gotta understand that we're not the wave itself lmao

[uncut umbra]

may to boris to liz truss, how fucking bad can labour be

[timber rock]

When I was growing up it was nearly £1 = $2

Now we almost at parity

💀

[teal jackal]

isnt liz truss a meme

[uncut umbra]

oh yeah you have weekly homeworks now lol

[formal fable]

There's disagreement and there's piling on. You and all the server mafia knows this, especially on the other channel where we had very tasteful discussions about me.

[uncut umbra]

I hate 451 with a passion

[teal jackal]

the queen died to escape liz truss

[uncut umbra]

or at least, 451 DP

[teal jackal]

european economies are not doing very hot, euro losing so much value

[young peak]

I feel like if I said even a tenth of what I put lumen through on the daily to you, you'd leave the server

[dusty basin]

Lmfao ikr

[young peak]

Stfu and back to work zon slave

[dusty basin]

Bro forget me and you @young peak

Imagine if I talked to him like I talk to @dire yarrow

[formal fable]

Kinda like this

[dusty basin]

Two messages calling u annoying

Oh yeah. How horrible

[young peak]

Bro took a WEEK to approve my pull req

[formal fable]

Scroll down my man. You're not all just respectful "disagreements"

[young peak]

I think we've devolved from the original intent here guys

[formal fable]

Anyway. Now that we've laid out my personality analysis for your entertainment, let's get back to the industry, jobs, interviews, etc

[peak ferry]

I wasn’t here originally idk what the original intent was

[wicked pendant]

i think we were talking abt negotiating lul

[young peak]

@formal fable just gotta work on soft skills ig and @rain patio needs to cancel his OF subscriptions. @dusty basin needs to get ready for OnCall hell

We all got things to improve

[spice kestrel]

Interviewer did not show up to my Bloomberg phone interview today @ 10 AM PDT 😦

[limber vale]

Shots shots

[dusty basin]

U need to stop breaking equipment

[young peak]

Damn gotta hit where it hurts huh

[formal fable]

Welcome to the club! We have free brunch and beverages

[peak ferry]

I feel like I’ve heard this from BB from various folk here :/

[young peak]

ONE time

[dusty basin]

Did your team say anything about it

[young peak]

Really do be having free brunch and drinks at G rn

[dusty basin]

How’s your team yogi

[young peak]

Lmfaoooo jeez

[dusty basin]

Aight I’m going back to full timers

[limber vale]

Still early for me fam

Gonna go in office for lunch probs

Wbu?

[young peak]

I'd be happy to tell you over lunch at Zon

Oh wait

No free lunch

[peak ferry]

goddamn fancy tech hoes

[dusty basin]

Gl 2023 grads. Ik it’s a shit market but you’ll get something soon

[dusty basin]

I have free lunch

Manager gave me corp card

[limber vale]

[spice kestrel]

Were you able to talk the recruiter and get it rescheduled?

Lmao I wish they sent out an email

[formal fable]

I emailed them, 10 mins in.

[exotic lintel]

yo whoever DM about Paycom, DM me again

[spice kestrel]

I did as well

Did you get a response?

[dire yarrow]

I was pinged here and at a few other places

[dusty basin]

K

And?

[dire yarrow]

[young peak]

Btw guys I got a rec from my advisor to be a intern host this Aug/Sep

So if you join G in Kirkland, I'm your guy prob

[dusty basin]

Oh no. Poor interns

Also, 2023 grads. Rip

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/04/amazon-reportedly-freezes-corporate-hiring-in-its-retail-business-.html

[dire yarrow]

[formal fable]

Nope. They can't schedule an interview 3 weeks in advance. I doubt they'll read an email and respond in less than a few days.

[limber vale]

Don’t cry nully wully

[dusty basin]

Yeah aws hiring

[marble bronze]

The question really becomes whether the economy's gonna get worse or better by same time next year

[young peak]

You know it's fucked when the Amazon recruiters stop spamming you

[dusty basin]

They don’t

[marble bronze]

And honestly if it gets worse I don't want to be anywhere NEAR university programs

[teal jackal]

im not optimistic

[dire yarrow]

Thank God it's not just me

[teal jackal]

we all have prior internships though

so i think we can all eventually land something

[dusty basin]

Lmao it is u

@sonic coral got hit up

[dire yarrow]

For a while I thought Amazon blacklisted me

[marble bronze]

I'm sad about Roblox though

[dusty basin]

I been getting spammed by msft but not Amazon

[dire yarrow]

[fossil jewel]

damn i got my vo next week, hopefully things are just being in a backlog rather than meeting hc

[dire yarrow]

Lmao no

[fossil jewel]

though they did mention recruiting heavily at their bloomberg 101 session

[dire yarrow]

I didn't steal anything from anyone

[calm shale]

BEZOS BALLS

BEZOS BALLS

BEZXOS BALLS

[foggy perch]

lmao applied to doordash a few weeks ago and randomly had a swe from doordash view my linkedin

guess it's time for that fat l

[marble bronze]

They be like

(*looks at LI*)
Oh hell nah

[foggy perch]

rip

tbh idk if this is a coincidence or not

but I'd like to think they viewed my linkedin because of my app

[formal fable]

You don't know the full story mate. There's a bit of missing historical context.

[calm shale]

alright time to grind some soloq

[foggy perch]

which game

[calm shale]

league

[last summit]

I don't know the full story? I was literally here?

[formal fable]

That screenshot refers to some events that happened some time ago with some specific folks. Not everyone, not most.

[calm shale]

this drama is hotter than the twitch drama 2 weeks ago

[teal jackal]

F

[marble bronze]

Softie sounds like you've just got erectile dysfunction

They gotta pick a better name

[calm shale]

https://twitter.com/neetcode1/status/1577170686178562048?s=20&t=pLKBrfbgOZcJzpTE7WpiBg
bro imagine having neetcode as your interviewer

NeetCode (@neetcode1)

I'm interviewing someone tomorrow.. what's the hardest dynamic programming problem you guys know? 😈

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2022, 5:36 AM

[formal fable]

I kinda feel he's gonna be nice about it. Given his gentle nature in the vids at least 😄

[autumn ridge]

LOL he seems so nice I feel like he would give you not to bad of a question

[gleaming fable]

its anybodys guess at this point bro

[marble bronze]

true

[calm shale]

tru but there's no bs around him lol, anything you say that's wrong, he'll catch it. Tho he could still be nice and overlook those things

[gleaming fable]

I feel like some of the fundamentals of the economy are fine, american manufacturing is fucking booming and with the labor shortage workers have more bargaining power

but we all know that whatever happens to the financial sector hurts everybody regardless

like 2008

[steep sundial]

Why has Microsoft rejected everyone? 😭

Man this is bomb

[gleaming fable]

hiring freeze

[dusty basin]

I think we still have yet to see the worst this year tbh

But ofc it’s anyone’s guess

[steep sundial]

But when I applied there was no freeze. When did the freeze happen?

[dusty basin]

After you applied

[gleaming fable]

^ midway through the process

I think it just happened a couple days ago

[calm shale]

this, just want something with a high base and load up on cash for the next year

[steep sundial]

So some people got in?

[teal jackal]

id take cash over stock

base salary will be king during a recession

[foggy perch]

so true

I'm ready for my one chance to flex on google/meta/big tech folk this recession

[dusty basin]

Assuming you get that chance

[teal jackal]

nah this man already did

in the clear now

not me tho

i gotta keep hustling

[slate bobcat]

I just need my chance with your mom, then I can flex

[foggy perch]

nah I already got a job rn with bb with a decently high base

[dusty basin]

Gonna be waiting a long time b

[steep sundial]

Man this year sucks

[foggy perch]

thus I just need stock to drop to 0 so I can flex

[dusty basin]

[steep sundial]

Everything is dry

[dusty basin]

And pics

[gleaming fable]

oop accidental reply

[gleaming fable]

I don't think msfts process got far along enough for anyone to get offers yet

[foggy perch]

i guess netflix folks are gonna be the biggest flexxers of this recession tbh

they'll be standing on the corpses of people with dead meta RSUs

[gleaming fable]

is netflix ng still open or is it frozen

[west egret]

"Someone from our team will be in touch to update you on the status of your application by no later than the end of our fall recruiting season.  "

No later than the end.....very useful.

[dusty basin]

The ones who didn’t lose their jobs

[steep sundial]

Basically no one got into them this year.

[gleaming fable]

job havers are gonna be flexing the most 💀

[wicked pendant]

ngl isnt netflix also struggling, all the news abt how they want to introduce ads and general dislike of too many streaming platforms rn

[river harbor]

Do you guys know any data structures where we can lookup by key apart from dictionary

[foggy perch]

true, but if nflx NG survive not getting fired

they'll be balling

with that cash pay

[gleaming fable]

they're getting hammered by bad press, bad strategic moves like you said, and strong competition

[dusty basin]

Netflix dying tbh

[gleaming fable]

that's a tough thing to do man netflix has some really high expectations

[wicked pendant]

ah do they not pay stock

crazy

[dusty basin]

They do

[gleaming fable]

you can choose how to divvy up your pay

most people do all cash

[wicked pendant]

oh wow LOL

[foggy perch]

barely any

pretty much pure cash

[dusty basin]

I don’t think you can do all cash

P sure it’s like a majority cash

[gleaming fable]

nearly all cash prob

yeah

[dusty basin]

And a tiny amount stock

Yea

[foggy perch]

oh yeah btw, why'd ya cancel google final for bb

[dusky lark]

Anyone has any idea about the hike %age per annum for FAANG companies?

[gleaming fable]

you get 1 single share of netflix a quarter

[foggy perch]

wow that's almost enough for a netflix subscription

[gleaming fable]

I think your pay increase is more so dependent on promo since pay raises aren't that common in FAANG

[river harbor]

Anyone?

[dusky lark]

HashMaps, TreeMaps

[gleaming fable]

when you average that out, it can be any number of rates

some people will stick at an L3/L4 position for like 7 years

[river harbor]

Hashmap is dictionary?

[dusky lark]

Oh but there has to be an average increase every year because of inflation right

[dusty basin]

Well, you get pay raises and refreshers based on performance

[gleaming fable]

ohh yeah it'll generally keep up with inflation

[dusky lark]

Dicts are implemented using some sort of hashing i guess

[gleaming fable]

tru the big jumps are promos tho ofc

[last summit]

is there a use case you have in mind where a hashmap doesnt cut it

[dusky lark]

right

[gleaming fable]

generally you can expect them to keep up with inflation and each other though

[river harbor]

I had a interview where he said there is another data structure apart from dictionary tell me tha

[uncut umbra]

bb hit hc????

[river harbor]

Where we have key and values and it is sortef

[last summit]

maybe a hashset? but that doesn't store a value just keeps track of what you have

[dusky lark]

TreeMap

[uncut umbra]

heap

[sour night]

if he wants it sorted treemap fs

[river harbor]

He said not that

[uncut umbra]

oh lmao

my b

[dusky lark]

You don't have key-values in a heap

[uncut umbra]

you can construct the element to be like a pair or smth

[river harbor]

First time I am hearing this ds

[uncut umbra]

but at least in java it's a pain

I usually use an array and then sort on the values in the array

[wicked pendant]

didnt wanna renege bb and i dont think google would get me thru in time bc theyre so fucked

[dusky lark]

TreeMaps are usually implemented using Red black trees , You can dig deeper if you want

[river harbor]

He wanted just one data structure

[gleaming fable]

good thinking

[uncut umbra]

you can also do a heap whose values are an Entry<thing, anotherThing>, idk if Entry counts as another data structure

but yeah given all of those conditions treemap is more obvious

my b

has anyone done the disney recruiter call

[river harbor]

He said in python

[uncut umbra]

did you identify python as your primary lang or was it just a general question?

[river harbor]

Yeah i think tree maps is the answer

[river harbor]

It was the one I was coding in and he works in python so

[uncut umbra]

ah makes sense

[river harbor]

😢

Fcking hell

Sorted containers in python which is a third part library

How the fck am i supposed to know that

[foggy perch]

Fair, I'd have reneged tbh

[dense cloud]

thats dumb asf

[foggy perch]

Bb late career pay kinda rough

[lone rapids]

Ppl here getting offers so much and im just getting rejected. Suggest some masters school which give TA. That seems like best choice at this point

[dense cloud]

they have good exit opps i think

[marble bronze]

Apply to F500

[wicked pendant]

fair, i dont think ill ever go back to bb after this i just really liked my recruiter and didnt wanna screw her over lol (+ bb hit my salary target regardless so i was happy alr)

[lone rapids]

Bruh im applying to everything now. Im international

[teal jackal]

expedia's personality test is wack

on the sliding thing where you pick which personality trait you identify more strongly as its like
"i scam people for csgo skins"
or
"when i play fps games i threaten to beat people up and fuck their mom"

like what tf

i identify as neither

[marble bronze]

Oh you're fucked fucked then

[lone rapids]

Masters r not closed yet

Plenty of time

[marble bronze]

Not many companies do the visa thing, unfortunately

Best of luck

[marble bronze]

Does your school offer an MS program?

[lone rapids]

Yea need it lol. MIT doesnt do masters for ppl outside their school right?

[lone rapids]

It does

But i dont wanna go here anymore. Not that prestigious

[marble bronze]

I think they might do MS outside their school, but it's research based not course

[foggy perch]

True but those benefit mainly relevant early career

[teal jackal]

F500 companies might not necesarily have the TC, but they can sponsor often

i think?

[lone rapids]

Any t20 school is good as long as i can get TA and get that tuition off

[marble bronze]

Honestly from the ones I've applied to (top 70) not many of them sponsor

[teal jackal]

that sucks

[marble bronze]

Hell, Freddie Mac explicitly stated they won't even pay for my relocation

[teal jackal]

f

doubt tbh

[marble bronze]

I applied for BB a while back super late, no response yet

[sour night]

i really doubt it ik someone who has their phone in november

[west egret]

Are you rejecting your BB offer?

[sour night]

im negotiating rn

i want bb over stubhub

[dense cloud]

whats the standard bb package?

[west egret]

Just better wlb?

[wicked pendant]

its debatable but seems most people are getting 155 base, 17 or 23 bonus, and 10 relo

[sour night]

• prestige

[sour night]

155 base, 17 perf, 10 relocation

[west egret]

Stubhub was more money though right?

[west egret]

So 172k recurring

[foggy perch]

relevant note is relocation requires 2 years or you pay back a percent based off how early you leave

[late kestrel]

me rn so hard. em tmrw 🥴

[sour night]

correct

[sour night]

yeah im planning on job hopping after 2 years anyways

[foggy perch]

no

[rain patio]

what do they usually ask in the bloomberg em?

[late kestrel]

"possible sys design"

[foggy perch]

nice I might leave early depending on the exit opps I find tbh

[wicked pendant]

seems hr and em round are highly variable

[sour night]

makes sense

[foggy perch]

my em was literally just the dude asking about my resume

[west egret]

Also 10k shouldn’t affect your decision to switch companies

[foggy perch]

and some super basic behaviorals

lmao

< 1 week

[wicked pendant]

my hr round was very cute and my recruiter asked me about what i like in company culture and whatever and my friend was like well my hr round was 2 minutes and she just asked about offers

[foggy perch]

yeah hr round was super chill

for me it was just why bloomberg

and basic behaviorals

[dense cloud]

how many rounds are there for bb?

[ebon quiver]

jesus guys

[rain patio]

also did you guys have different length hr/em rounds? i'm seeing different people have different lengths for each of those rounds

[gleaming fable]

BB can be super rng I'll vouch

[ebon quiver]

none of the good companies are reaching out to me

[gleaming fable]

you really never know who/what you're going to get lol

[foggy perch]

lol not for me

[west egret]

What’s you say?

[gleaming fable]

oh shit I just realized I'm gonna get to see what everyone at my company is making soon

[wicked pendant]

only generalization i think that can be made for em round is that theyll wanna hear about why you made certain decisions on resume projects/internships

[foggy perch]

^

[gleaming fable]

after that CA salary transparency law just passed

we're a startup but we pay decent so I'm extremely curious what our seniors and staff swes make

[foggy perch]

huh why're you considering bb over your other offers

they seem pretty good

[west egret]

200 seems pretty reasonable with negotiation

[wicked pendant]

there's never too high, they might not be able to match exactly but also if u lowball yourself its worse

[foggy perch]

oh

[rain patio]

@wicked pendant could you clarify? i feel like in my internships the tech stack was chosen for me. I didn't get much choices

[surreal prairie]

guys i know this has been asked a lot but should I put experience or education first in my resume, I wanna highlight Google internship

[west egret]

Wlb at BB is supposed to be fantastic too

I’ll take their lowest though lol

[wicked pendant]

uhm like for mine they wanted to know about how i approached the project and made tradeoffs and stuff, if the project they pick doesnt fit theyll move onto something else on ur resume

[west egret]

I have nothing

[rain patio]

ok i think thats doable ty

[foggy perch]

really dang

[uncut umbra]

I think it's scheduling error cause I have heard of people having ghosting interviewers in early sept

and no company fills up hc in early sept

[ancient raft]

can anyone tell me what is the process of Lucid?

[teal jackal]

stupid ass OA

crazy hard

[winter loom]

When should you negotiate an offer ? On verbal offer call ?

[west egret]

You mean like amazon?

[teal jackal]

they ask LC graph DP shit

[winter loom]

Have a call for Bloomberg

[west egret]

And MSFT albeit in early October

[delicate sentinel]

Anyone have resources to write a cover letter for software engineer new grad?

[sour night]

dont waste ur time

[west egret]

I wouldn’t write a cover letter ever

[delicate sentinel]

What do you mean?

[west egret]

They might just ghost you anyways

[sour night]

not worth the effort imo

[west egret]

Or just have a template and replace the company name at most lol

[teal jackal]

Thank you

Interesting, why that soon?

I thought most people stay at least the better part of one year

[uncut umbra]

if I am not at a company I like next year I plan to job hop as soon as humanly possible

[delicate sentinel]

Odd question, but if I'm working for the US remotely from Canada, I would be paid in USD, would I be able to exchange it for CDN dollars?

[teal jackal]

Yeah I agree

[wicked pendant]

uhm i have a friend whos an artist for a US company but lives in canada and they get USD, pretty sure they exchange it, dont know anyone in tech doing this tho

[deep wasp]

Damn. Just took my Amazon new grad sde oa. Both questions were very doable LC medium. I choked hard. New to this process and the nerves got to me

[calm shale]

thats when you phone a friend

[fossil jewel]

happens to us all

[gleaming fable]

you should be able to exchange it but you would want to maybe ask your bank and your employer about it

[small mountain]

can i phone you when i need help with twosum?

[gleaming fable]

you don't wanna lose like 5% of your paycheck to exchange fees after all

[calm shale]

i gotchu

[small mountain]

i be forgetting hashmaps

[late kestrel]

well then youd have threesum

[gleaming fable]

sometimes banks will exchange that for you for free but double check

[late kestrel]

so idk how thats gonna help

[gleaming fable]

happens to everyone man, I choked super hard on my first like 3 OAs

[calm shale]

lets have a threesome

[small mountain]

im down

[last summit]

open an account at Wise they'll give you a US bank account # and it'll convert to canadian for you a lot cheaper than your bank will

[gleaming fable]

yup just try and look for the cheapest way to get your money exchanged possible

https://wise.com/us/

their fees are super low

[delicate sentinel]

Pay to exchange currency? That's new to me. I've never had to exchange currency.

[gleaming fable]

yeah its not free to switch currencies around so usually there's fees, sometimes your banks will offer a certain amount for free a year but if you're getting your paychecks from abroad you're going to need to set something up like wise

[delicate sentinel]

Ok, thanks. I'll keep it in mind.

[gleaming fable]

np, also much cheaper to do it through something like wise or your own bank than at the airport

[late kestrel]

pain and suffering

[gleaming fable]

graph qs iirc

tiktok oa is fucking hard

in the '22 hiring season they were passing people who failed both questions

[ancient raft]

I qualified the OA and the Board game round. I wanted to know what is the last interview about?

[teal jackal]

cant tell u

idk

[forest ice]

Do we have BB VO and HR on the same day always?

[waxen bolt]

Has anyone been rejected at the final follow up phone call for Netflix?

[rain patio]

@forest ice no

[uncut umbra]

has anyone gotten the SIG phone call request? just got it rn lol

[forest ice]

Thanks
How many days after VO did you hear back for HR call? @rain patio

[rain patio]

a couple days. they said they're really busy rn

[forest ice]

Ohh okay thanks

[floral plank]

Recruiter call?

[uncut umbra]

ye

[floral plank]

I did mines a month ago and have final tmr

[uncut umbra]

oh shit is that all it is?

and do you know that if you pass the recruiter call you get moved to final?

[teal jackal]

i am applying to sig fr

not sure if ill pass resume screen

but i think i want to apply

[night magnet]

OA is automatic iirc

[teal jackal]

yeah ik

oa -> recruiter screen -> final?

thats a great bargain tbh

[night magnet]

Idk

Didn’t get past screen

[teal jackal]

yet?

or no chance

[uncut umbra]

like the codesignal?

[dire yarrow]

Bruh already?

[floral plank]

I mean that is the process

[uncut umbra]

I meant like

are there any other steps

recruiter call -> final is spicy

[floral plank]

No

[uncut umbra]

also disney recruiter is ghosting me lmao

phone call was 15 mins ago

[signal ore]

I have an interview with Apple for Privacy SWE. What are some good questions to ask them at the end?

[dire yarrow]

What is privacy swe? Is it like a cyber security role?

[signal ore]

It’s ensuring their products and services preserve the privacy of their users

[dire yarrow]

Ohkk.

I usually ask questions about company at the end

Maybe oncall, culture of team, culture of company

[autumn ridge]

inbox is dry as the saharra

[signal ore]

Thanks, also when I introduce myself, should I mention my past experience with privacy engineering or wait for them to ask?

[dire yarrow]

I'd say everything. Unless there's a reason not to. Why not?

[potent dagger]

Anyone know about optiver's oa? what kind of qs can you expect?

[marble bronze]

Inbox is wet, but with rejections

[rigid crown]

For Bloomberg phone…
If I answered the first question perfectly and the second one needed some hints to get … what are my odds ?

[chilly burrow]

I'd say decent

[uncut umbra]

I think decent

I got floored for my phone and got invited back lol

[teal jackal]

if u can finish the interview

that should be not bad

you have a chance at making it to final

[knotty talon]

for BBG phone, I got ehh

[teal jackal]

is bloomberg one phone -> one final?

[rigid crown]

🙏🏻 cuz I have nothing else going for me

[knotty talon]

i got asked LRU cache, and fumbled the doubly linked list implementation. still made it to final

[teal jackal]

LRU cache 🤮

[knotty talon]

yea that question is dumb

respectfully

[uncut umbra]

I find it not bad, but maybe that's cause I've gotten used to debugging shitty versions in C

[teal jackal]

did u do that b4

[uncut umbra]

lru cache? various versions of it yeah

disney recruiter full half hour ghost

we love this recruiting cycle

[teal jackal]

2023 season sucks ballsacks

[livid citrus]

Scheduled bloomberg phone oct 20, yall think this is too late?

[teal jackal]

mine is oct 25

tbh im paranoid about C1, but not so much for bloomberg

[floral plank]

no one knows

only time will tell

[livid citrus]

yep

[late kestrel]

yeah we cant tell you. there were people like 3 weeks ago saying bb was full 😂

[teal jackal]

how long is bloomberg process?

[late kestrel]

looked back to see if i could find the guy's message ab how confident he was that bb was done hiring, but hes deleted everything

[teal jackal]

1 phone and 1 final?

[late kestrel]

phone -> virtual on site -> hr/em

[teal jackal]

gedeon? i remember he used to hella troll about "company is done"

[late kestrel]

nah diff guy

[teal jackal]

every new grad process is so long

long interview proceses, short dick

wish it was other way around

[waxen bolt]

Anyone rejected after final Netflix? Was it done through a scheduled recruiter call?

[late kestrel]

this guy got ghosted on his bb phone so he was convinced they were done hiring

[teal jackal]

bloomberg is just being mad incompetent this year

[late kestrel]

fr fr

im lucky ive had no trouble so far

[floral plank]

bb does take long to reach out though after phone, right?

Like last year I didn't hear back till like a month later

[ebon quiver]

pause.. what

[teal jackal]

i said what i said...

[late kestrel]

sometimes. this season ive seen as fast as 1 day or as long as around 2-3 weeks

[ebon quiver]

explain the second part please

[uncut umbra]

cheddy got it in a day, I had my bb phone on friday and got the invite yesterday

[teal jackal]

do i really have to explain it

[topaz elk]

Bloomberg negotiated offer came back

215 the first year, 195k recurring

holy shit

[ebon quiver]

um yeah cuz p sure ur dick wont get bigger as u go from new grad to mid level does it

[uncut umbra]

they call him slikk cause he finishes so fast you forget you were getting fucked in the first place

[topaz elk]

i didnt even have a concrete offer in hand

i just told them im in two sigma final

[uncut umbra]

cra-acked

[teal jackal]

nah, my interview processes are so long, i wish my dick could be as long

too bad my dick is short

[late kestrel]

wtf thats a crazy strat

[teal jackal]

[ebon quiver]

whats the metric there

[teal jackal]

idk

bro issa a joke

[ebon quiver]

i feel like majortiy of companies ask

[teal jackal]

im just memeing

[uncut umbra]

today I was asked at radix where my finals are at, and I said bb, stubhub and goog

goog is a half-truth

[uncut umbra]

[ebon quiver]

shit ima start capping

ima jus say i have fucking citadel

boost the shit outta my ofer

[uncut umbra]

yeah just throw out all the names lmao

[ebon quiver]

oh wait

[uncut umbra]

I hope I get an offer

[ebon quiver]

dont have an offer

🦗

[uncut umbra]

how's the inbox lookin

[ebon quiver]

dry as a bitch

except for epic..

[marble bronze]

Ocean of rejects

[uncut umbra]

epic software?

[ebon quiver]

srry but not tryna go to madison

[uncut umbra]

just had my call with them this morning

[marble bronze]

Epic games or epic systems lol

[ebon quiver]

fuckin systems

[uncut umbra]

honestly fuck it lol, might be able to do grad school at madison

[ebon quiver]

fuck i woulda love to play fortnite all day

[marble bronze]

What's the TC?

[ebon quiver]

its decent for madison

[marble bronze]

Or are you not at that point yet

Oh nice

[ebon quiver]

but nah i dont even have an offer there

i dont have an offer anywwhere

[teal jackal]

epic games is lit, i would love to work on unreal engine

[ebon quiver]

thatd be unreal

[teal jackal]

fr

[ebon quiver]

[austere grove]

yo can i ask you questions about the hm

my on eis pretty soon

[ebon quiver]

no top tier companies reach out to me

it makes me sad

[uncut umbra]

reach out to them first

go around your suburb with a resume and a dress shirt

knock on doors

[runic wind]

Looks like MSFT stopped hiring AND fired all university recruiters

[ebon quiver]

no top tier companies in my suburb

[wind drum]

really doubt it was all of them, in that case they would have no interns lol

[runic wind]

Yeah just that my LinkedIn feed is full of them

[floral plank]

rip cold emailing them

[dusty basin]

It’s mostly contractors

[knotty talon]

yooooooo how'd you negotiate?

with which offer

[uncut umbra]

what on fucking earth

[knotty talon]

rn I have 208k FY, 178k recurring

[uncut umbra]

my meta uni recruiter hasn't responded to me in a month

[ebon quiver]

damn where

[knotty talon]

lmao got it

[knotty talon]

bloomberg as well

[ebon quiver]

no where did i ask

[knotty talon]

but that negotiated offer is crazy though

[ebon quiver]

jk jk congrats

[knotty talon]

[ebon quiver]

srry im bit salty nowadays

[topaz elk]

dude im just shocked

I didn't even have a concrete offer

[late kestrel]

whatd you nego this with

[knotty talon]

lmao need me that

[topaz elk]

I did really well in the interview rounds though

like

[knotty talon]

it's returning intern offer

[topaz elk]

Ive never had a interview that good before

[ebon quiver]

did u have ez question /

[topaz elk]

kinda

my VOs were mostly whatever

my HR phone was amazing

[ebon quiver]

bruh i wish

they would reach out to me

[topaz elk]

We literally just talked about keyboards videos and loving NYC

[ebon quiver]

how did u get two sig to reach out to u

i had a referral and still nothing

[austere grove]

what the fuck

[knotty talon]

same

[austere grove]

arent they contracted

?

wdym fired

[topaz elk]

theyre at my school which is shocking since we're a t50

our school be like

[austere grove]

i htought most recruiters were done once their contracts ended

[topaz elk]

old mission and two sigma

but like

[ebon quiver]

must be nice

[topaz elk]

the best faangs we get are microsoft and fb

weird school

[ebon quiver]

to get an interview

[austere grove]

quants have ot recruit more tahn some plac elike google

no one knows what old mission is

everyone knows what google is

[runic wind]

Yeah okay I'm not sure if they are contractors
Most posts say they were laid off

[austere grove]

wow

that's insane

[ebon quiver]

im thining about cold emailing

is that shit worth

[austere grove]

recrutiers have to ahve it worse than us

[uncut umbra]

what on fucking earth

wait how'd you neg that though

[knotty talon]

like that's the standard intern return intern offer

pretty good, not as crazy as SJ's tho

[runic wind]

Standard offer limited to aca btw

[knotty talon]

naa my intern pals got same thing i think

[uncut umbra]

that's insane

[cobalt siren]

@topaz elk mind sharing the break down for your bloomberg offer?

[uncut umbra]

195k recurring is cracked

[knotty talon]

congrats @topaz elk btw

[topaz elk]

155, + 30k + 20k + 10k, base, recurring, sign on, relo

thanks yall

[knotty talon]

hope ya get two sigma anyway lol

[topaz elk]

oh wait

i calcualted it wrong

185k recur

whatever

[uncut umbra]

two sigma can two suck my balls

[knotty talon]

still crazy

[gilded dust]

Seeing a lot of Bloomberg this yr

[teal jackal]

honestly C1 and bloomberg cohort is gonna be so cracked in 2023

[marble bronze]

Sigma balls lmao gottem

[uncut umbra]

that's my reaction every time I see figma

also fuck figma

don't even give me a rejecc email

[ebon quiver]

fax

i have never heard back

from so many companies

like not a single time

oracle

figma

like fucking never

maybe there is a red flag on my resume somewhere

[tardy geode]

APPLY -> GRIND -> REJECT , when will this cycle end 😭

[uncut umbra]

it's that you haven't already worked for 4 years in the industry

[tardy geode]

2023 finna gonna be 2020 Lite smh

[ebon quiver]

i have like 4-5 internships

it literally makes no sense

like im a catch

the fuck is wrong

[compact obsidian]

tiktok OA is trivial if u aren't dumb like me

dunno why ppl were saying it was hard

[uncut umbra]

jfc that's insane

[teal jackal]

figma is a ghoster

aepic, same boat as u bro

[ebon quiver]

clearly it doesnt fucking matter

[teal jackal]

tbh

[uncut umbra]

this guy's deciding between js, hrt, citadel and optiver for full time

[teal jackal]

wait tiktok oa is crazy hard

[uncut umbra]

is it the uni? that's the only rationalization

[compact obsidian]

maybe i got easy qs

[ebon quiver]

i go to a top 5 cs schoo p sure

[compact obsidian]

spent like 5 min on first 2 coding qs

last q i could've gotten in like 30 if i had spent some time thinking

unfortunately i am code money and i do not think

[old smelt]

This year is fucked, it's extremely competitive and there's always people with better resumes. Last year you wouldve been drowning in interviews

[compact obsidian]

so i spent like a solid 1 hour 30 min coding solutions that didnt work until i got it

[teal jackal]

wait WHAT

how are u getting screwed

and i thought i had it bad....

[ebon quiver]

yeah i guess but still

[uncut umbra]

how much time do you get?

[compact obsidian]

120min

[uncut umbra]

oh wow

[ebon quiver]

i feel like i should get at least an oa or interview for the majority of companies @old smelt

[teal jackal]

start a resume review thread, feel free to ping us for it

ping us for it

[azure zephyr]

when did you start applying?

[ebon quiver]

VERY VERY EARLY

srry for caps

[ebon quiver]

im about to f this

[uncut umbra]

aepic checks all the boxes except the luck one

[ebon quiver]

im v uncluky

[old smelt]

Post resume

[azure zephyr]

😂😂 whats ur applications -> oa/interview rate?

[teal jackal]

excluding auto ones, mine is 5.6% LOL

so far

[cobalt siren]

4.2% sounds pretty good

[compact obsidian]

including auto OAs my rate is still like 10% lol

[old smelt]

I have 4 no name and 1 big n, have been getting some interviews but expected a lot more.

[teal jackal]

my bad its a bit higher

5.6% with lucid(OA reject)

[cobalt siren]

same tho Im sure the recession doesn't help

[teal jackal]

i agree,, i realize its just tough rn

[cobalt siren]

I have c1 on my resume and everyone I talked to from previous years got interviews at most of the fangs

[teal jackal]

i cant hate myself for it

[old smelt]

Yea that's what I mean, market is chalked up rn

[teal jackal]

just unlucky m8

[compact obsidian]

ye fang this year is nogo

[still bison]

Anyone made it to the final round for Red Ventures?

[compact obsidian]

msft and amazon had some interviews but they're both basically closed now

[azure zephyr]

i'm at 27.5%

[compact obsidian]

google and meta basically closed from the start

[azure zephyr]

yes but i didn't feel like doing the take home lmao

[teal jackal]

the A, F and the G are out of commission, and microsoft is also DOA for 2023 recruiting

[cobalt siren]

jesus

what do you have on your resume if you dont mind me asking?

[teal jackal]

that is crazy

[cobalt siren]

@old smelt which big n?

[teal jackal]

i have zon on resume

[old smelt]

Nuro

[west egret]

Did MSFT even give out interviews in the first place?

[teal jackal]

yes but like 2

[compact obsidian]

ye msft had a couple

[azure zephyr]

nothing crazy my two internships were raytheon and a F500 company

i'm also a data science major applying for swe

[ebon quiver]

250 interviews

250 apps

like maybe 20 oas

from there like

5 interviews

[teal jackal]

damn nuro is amazing

[ebon quiver]

bout to

[cedar gulch]

hey guys, if I take a codesignal now for a company but score lower than a prev score, can I still submit the prev?

[azure zephyr]

i just started hearing back from more places the past two weeks. i'm at 102 apps & 29 responses

[marble bronze]

Oh for a second I thought you meant 100% rate LOL

[teal jackal]

use bloom link and defer the request for the company u care abt

[teal jackal]

including auto OAs?

[ebon quiver]

bruh i wish

that would be fucking insane

[teal jackal]

or excluding

[cedar gulch]

do y’all adjust your resume for each app you submit? Or just submit the same one

[compact obsidian]

thats too much work lol

ig u could do it

might be worth now that econ's gone to shit

[teal jackal]

same one for the most part, i add new keywords to my resume when I see a company care about a new keyword and i raelize "oh shit thats important"

[uncut umbra]

why is google out of commission?

[azure zephyr]

uhh idk which ones were auto

[uncut umbra]

isn't it opening up later

or more so later

cause it's already collected the resumes

[west egret]

The application was out for like a week at most and closed lol

[azure zephyr]

maybe 9 OAs being auto? i can look at my spreadsheet rn and see

[compact obsidian]

google app closed a while back

[teal jackal]

im at 11% including auto

[compact obsidian]

im gonna guess they're gonna wait to see acceptance rate for returns first before starting general interviews for those who did apply when it was open

[cedar gulch]

I need to crank out a lot of apps this weekend

[teal jackal]

tbh i dont see many people turning down their return offers

google is v good

[compact obsidian]

but my google intern friends still haven't gotten formal offers yet (sample size of 2)

[floral plank]

I mean who would wanna re recruit in this season

[uncut umbra]

I've heard that they should have heard earlier? my google friends got their info in august

[compact obsidian]

ye they got verbal offers

not formal tho

[uncut umbra]

like the mentor/manager should have figured out a decision at that point

oh I see

[west egret]

It's just diminishing returns if you already have a big tech return offer

[teal jackal]

honestly if i had a zon return offer, the minute i realize how fucked the 2023 season is i probably would have given up and just taken amazon, no questions asked

[azure zephyr]

i think 7 of my OAs were auto

[uncut umbra]

this was my plan until I got the gigantic dick

[teal jackal]

at first were u also like "no biggie, amazon on resume will boost my prestige. ill have enough choices that i wont need the amazon return offer anyways"

that was me at first

[floral plank]

Yea I would have done the same if I had a Big N offer, even that was my plan originally if I got a big n internship

[teal jackal]

until i started applying

and reality hit

[uncut umbra]

absolutely true

I think amazon is carrying me less than uni name

[azure zephyr]

what's the consensus on DoorDash? I'm in their process rn and I'm not sure where they stand as far as wlb, culture, stability etc

[teal jackal]

idk

[azure zephyr]

would it be a safe company to join rn

[compact obsidian]

according to blind shit wlb but good pay

[azure zephyr]

same questions about nextdoor as well

[azure zephyr]

noooo really? that really sucks

a lot of the things i saw on blind were from like 2020 so i wasn't sure if its still the case

[teal jackal]

should i get a slice of buffalo chicken pizza for snack later

i think i shall

[ebon quiver]

guys i posted

[compact obsidian]

o did u lose ur blind acc or smt

current reviews

basically ok for everything except wlb lol

[uncut umbra]

oh fun

I hope they send me the OA soon

[ebon quiver]

@uncut umbra https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1027307983442554941

did that link work

[azure zephyr]

no i didn't lose if but i just joined it a month or two ago i guess i didn't realize that blind had reviews, i was just looking at posts

[uncut umbra]

yep

[compact obsidian]

fellow gt student 🤝

[ebon quiver]

👋

[ebon quiver]

u getting rekt like me

[compact obsidian]

nah i got return offer

so i b chillin

[azure zephyr]

nextdoor seems a lot better

[rain patio]

just had my bloomberg em round and they asked a fucking math question

[uncut umbra]

what kinda math

[rain patio]

it was insanely hard

[austere grove]

Nextdoor is a sinking ship

[uncut umbra]

...oh. was it like information security

[ebon quiver]

damn congrats where

[compact obsidian]

personally i'd take doordash if u get offer

like the money is worth the low wlb imo

[uncut umbra]

or play them off each other to neg

[compact obsidian]

msft

[uncut umbra]

renege so we can get smth pls

[compact obsidian]

if i had gotten roblox i would've

but i am trash at behav

so i did not get roblox

xd

[teal jackal]

can u guys check aepic's thread for resume

[uncut umbra]

if that's the only reason you didn't get roblox you are cracked beyond reason

[teal jackal]

that is CRACKED

on jah

[compact obsidian]

roblox technicals were easy tho?

well not easy

[grizzled bronze]

If you fail at behavioral, you're not "cracked"

[compact obsidian]

but they were LC meds

and i think i had 841 for gca

which is p good but not like 845+ cracked

[azure zephyr]

could you elaborate on this more

[compact obsidian]

roblox behav i got asked like 15 behav questions and i only had like 8 stories prepared

so i got fukd

[dreamy urchin]

how long did u spend on answering each q

[azure zephyr]

why not just make up stories for the other 7?

[compact obsidian]

bc im trash at behav xd

[compact obsidian]

uh like 2-5 min

[azure zephyr]

ahh gotcha

[gilded dust]

Google culture is becoming like pip culture

[dreamy urchin]

damn how long was the behavioural interview

[compact obsidian]

the way i prep for technical and behav interviews is i just memorize answers for the top 50 questions

[dreamy urchin]

recession culture

[compact obsidian]

and roblox did not ask any behav questions that i had prepared for

[azure zephyr]

my behavioral has always been strong, i'm jealous of ppl who can LC with zero problems. i still struggle through some meds sometimes so the LC grind is still on for me

[compact obsidian]

2x 45 i think

[warped needle]

am I doomed to exceed time limit on CodeSignal Q4 forever?

[dreamy urchin]

damn thats so long

[azure zephyr]

are you going with roblox? or netflix

[austere grove]

Just look at the company’s financials

They barely make any money

[dreamy urchin]

how much is NFLX offering

[compact obsidian]

i think roblox doesn't care about the technical for interviews bc they already filter pretty hard on gca

[austere grove]

And probably never will

[compact obsidian]

so they really only care about the behav part

[austere grove]

Like not high costs they just don’t have revenue

[dreamy urchin]

205 base??? sheeeesh

[teal jackal]

what world do u live in bruh

[dreamy urchin]

rblx is 153 base

[teal jackal]

830+ is all the same, 1200/1200 is the same, 841 and 849 are the same

nobody cares at all

[dreamy urchin]

does nflx not have stock or bonus

oh wtf

[austere grove]

Roblox technicals are pretty easy

[dreamy urchin]

okay then yeah rblx def more

[austere grove]

It’s like lc easy medium

[dreamy urchin]

hmm

[austere grove]

Lol

[dreamy urchin]

rblx is 15k relo 22k sign on

[compact obsidian]

uh leme find the graph but according to codesignal like 10% of ppl get 840+

[austere grove]

The behaviorals seem to be the real filter

[grizzled bronze]

Behavioral is better to be stronger in though, it can carry you through even if you mess up on your LC

[dreamy urchin]

you have IMC?

[compact obsidian]

so once you hti that range you really need those last new points to distinguish yourself if companies care

[teal jackal]

honestly its because people try enough times that eventually they have good rng for agood score

codesignal is about good enough

you dont need to have a godly score

[dreamy urchin]

sheeesh congrats

what are the numbers for imc

[grizzled bronze]

How are their behaviorals? Do they want you to be showing a lot of enthusiasm for working at Roblox or what?

[dreamy urchin]

i have imc video oa in my inbox rn

[austere grove]

It’s weird random shit

[topaz elk]

@uncut epoch is imc final really only java

[austere grove]

I didn’t get anything too weird personally

[topaz elk]

lol

[austere grove]

But others have

[dreamy urchin]

whats IMC recurring

[austere grove]

And sometimes the interveiwer doesn’t like you

[dreamy urchin]

legend

[topaz elk]

fuuk

i need to applky

[dreamy urchin]

huh

what would u pick between imc and roblox

[low scroll]

yo when someone refers you to amazon, how long does it take to get that link?

[dreamy urchin]

i feel like WLB at IMC prolly aint worth the marginal TC boost

[compact obsidian]

so 840+ is pretty good but you're still in a 8.3% bucket

which is a decent number of ppl

[crisp sun]

do you still rmb what did they ask? I heard of some super weird prompts

[azure zephyr]

i would much rather have that insanely high netflix base than rely on stock for a large chunk of my income

[compact obsidian]

ye but i cant share bc of NDA

[crisp sun]

oh nw thanks tho

[low scroll]

its just a short term thing

[ivory stratus]

yeah but they'll bounce back, esp for big companies

[low scroll]

stocks always gonna go up

[dreamy urchin]

wish is a penny stock now

i dodged a bullet not going to wish to intern lel

wish cancelled their waterloo internal postings

[low scroll]

it will always go up long term

[dreamy urchin]

no more wish interns

[azure zephyr]

fr lol

[compact obsidian]

tbf like big tech salary is def enough to live off of

[azure zephyr]

can't buy a house with stock that's not vested

[austere grove]

I’m living in a van

Tbh

[low scroll]

short term thinking is dangerous

[austere grove]

Fuck housing

[low scroll]

all im sayin

[austere grove]

A trailer

Can you park a trailer in Manhattan

[low scroll]

dude fr

[outer radish]

cap

big growth

[earnest summit]

Capital one

[outer radish]

also im boutta interview with them so pls

[low scroll]

but some mfs wanna bathe in wine daily and have models feed them grapes in bed

[austere grove]

Ok if they reject you then it’s not cap