#2023_grads

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wheat seal
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is chilling

last summit
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lol what

night magnet
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Interesting

uncut umbra
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the fact that you took that time out hurts

last summit
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with 5 roommates maybe

night magnet
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Wait idk how much is it

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It’s MORE?!

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Holy

last summit
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in manhattan bro?

night magnet
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Say like 30 mins out of Manhattan

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Train ride

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Ok so 1.5

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So that means u have 5k/mo

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How much is that

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Ya that sucks

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Like 120k seems like a lot but it just dissolves

late kestrel
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a month ??

night magnet
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Wow

ivory stratus
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Microsoft final canceled 🙃

wheat seal
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company benefits most likely will cover it though

late kestrel
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sheesh

night magnet
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Ya so that cuts ur income in half

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If u wanna eat out it’s like 4k

west egret
night magnet
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Prob

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Idk like if u just wanna live a nice comfortable life

wheat seal
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90%

night magnet
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I guess we all define that differently

wheat seal
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90-95%

west egret
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nice comfortable life is pretty subjective

night magnet
west egret
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yeah this. If I can eat out 2x a week, I already consider that a luxury.

night magnet
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Interesting

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Food at my college is like $5/meal

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So I eat out a good amount

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Nah

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Midwest

wheat seal
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thats extremely cheap

night magnet
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Ik

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It helps that I usually get pizza lol

late kestrel
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nothing like looking up what a company does 15 minutes before an interview

night magnet
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HOLY

west egret
late kestrel
night magnet
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Cannot imagine spending >$15/meal regularly

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That’s insanity

west egret
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I did it just to know my team and increase chances of return offer honestly

night magnet
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Ya that’s good

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I’m just saying

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That’s so much

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Frr

calm shale
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im in midwest and any time i go out its 50+ WazowskiStare

night magnet
calm shale
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im gonna be dropping 100 per mean when i go to nyc

night magnet
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Bro

calm shale
night magnet
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That’s crazy

west egret
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yeah but there are definitely more budget/affordable options as well

night magnet
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That’s actually insane

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What’s ur normal places to eat

lament summit
uncut umbra
lament summit
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thats 15 right there

calm shale
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bro a meal is like 20 or so, apps is like 10 it so, add a drink and tip, boom 50+

uncut umbra
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I had covid over the summer in boston and I literally structured my meals so that I could order food once and have it last for 3 ish meals at about 10 bucks a meal lol

west egret
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If you go out to a fancy place 4-5x a week, you'll blow a lot of cash fast

night magnet
uncut umbra
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let's get hammered we have to

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at least once

west egret
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I don't even get appetizers when I go out to eat

night magnet
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I’m not 21 so nice

uncut umbra
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I have also never been hammered

wicked pendant
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ive heard theres cheap stuff in nyc too, just dont go to sitdown restaurants

west egret
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Just the meal item

night magnet
lament summit
calm shale
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ive been conditioned to always get a cocktail at each restaurant lol

lament summit
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:pog

night magnet
calm shale
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i like sit down restaurants Sadge

night magnet
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It’s gonna feel so weird when I’m 21

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I’ll feel like an adult

calm shale
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id eat out everyday if im rich

night magnet
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I define rich as >250k posttax

calm shale
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when 100 feels like 10 to me rn

wicked rivet
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lol i ate at 100+ nyc restaurants over internship

calm shale
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ik Sadge i like expensive shit

wicked rivet
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nyc food scene unrivaled

west egret
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@night magnet wait C1 is only 120-130 for NYC?

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I thought they were almost 150 now

floral plank
west egret
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Do they have sign on?

last summit
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the worst lens of financial thinking is being an intern buying stupid shit like "it's not that expensive its only 45 minutes of work"

west egret
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I might have seen offer with 10k sign on or something. Maybe that's why

calm shale
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sign on doesnt really mean much right. its not sustainable

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so best to not count it

lunar jackal
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Anyone who gave amazon 2*60 new grad interview, please let me know

floral plank
west egret
lament summit
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can someone gib me a job already

ivory stratus
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After I got to final

IMG_5165.png
lament summit
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wheres my sign on

empty schooner
night magnet
lament summit
ivory stratus
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Hopefully I at least get phone/OA next time since I got to final

lament summit
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basically the same thing as startups offering stock

ivory stratus
west egret
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Gimme my return offer this week please

empty schooner
night magnet
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I consider things in terms of how much time they cost me

drifting violet
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Whats the salary? I got an OA

ivory stratus
night magnet
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If something costs me 1 hour of my life it better be worth it

last summit
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because thinking like that will automatically result in lifestyle inflation

empty schooner
night magnet
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Very good point

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That’s a great point

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I’m not at that stage yet but I’ll keep it in mind

drifting violet
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Yeah, i got their 48h test

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Cool, thanks!

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And congrats

last summit
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@queen valve are u still looking or taking imc/opt lol

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bb > imc?

drifting violet
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I got an OA from palantir but flopped it (:)

last summit
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js/hrt?

drifting violet
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How many lc did you do?

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Before getting an offer from optiver and other companies

loud olive
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Talk about a power couple

drifting violet
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I am from the UK so not sure how it works in the US

split plaza
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Yes

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For some US applicants

lament summit
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wtf straight up power couple

drifting violet
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Damn

lament summit
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optiver gf js bf

drifting violet
lament summit
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whats not power about that

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jane street

drifting violet
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Oh

lament summit
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powerr coupleee

last summit
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you get swag @ final so that ones definitely better

lament summit
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must b so nice to do mocks and study with ur partner

loud olive
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Sending this to my girl

last summit
crude saffron
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Is he dev or trader?

uncut umbra
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if I could fuck myself I wouldn't need to get rejected from 100 companies

lament summit
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wait whyyy

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y u turning it down

last summit
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just take it and renege

lament summit
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u would take bb over optiver?

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ohh

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just do long distance

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career > relationship

crude saffron
uncut umbra
crude saffron
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Waiting for 2s?

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Where ru waiting for?

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IMC wlb is elite

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Gl hrt I have a final this week

lament summit
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If ur moving to nyc for him for a lower tc he better help offset some of ur costs tbh

crude saffron
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I will get offer and turn them down to protest their terrible recruiting process

loud olive
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Split by income? Like whoever makes more pay more rent?

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Wait fr lmaoo I didn’t know that

lament summit
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Yeah exactly make her pay 3k and u 500$

crude saffron
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It’s so slow

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They had their first onsites last week for algo dev

azure zephyr
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alright time for rippling oa

crude saffron
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It took me a month to get oa

austere grove
crude saffron
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Idk how many devs they’re looking for

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Not a lot tho

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Most places overhired last year

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Icic algo eng might have more hc

austere grove
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they will ask systems trivia

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lots and lots of systems trivia

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maybe not for algo eng tho

rain patio
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How long after OA did you get phone screen?

austere grove
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it's probably 45-55

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as any quant place

ivory stratus
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Fuck this year bro

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This economy sucks

crude saffron
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They are

ivory stratus
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I just want a job

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I am bro 😭

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Busting my ass on lc

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I’m legit pushing off grad just so I can hopefully still grab some new grad interviews next year

rain patio
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Ah i see, might have to do the same since I have an offer expiring in 2 weeks

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lmao wtf, not even oa?

crude saffron
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Desco for nyc seems cool

loud olive
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Is gem hiring new grad this year?

lament summit
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this year absolutely sucks

last summit
lament summit
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even amazon is rescinding offers

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I mean like interns who got told they were getting offer ended up getting declined for headcount reasons

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but this is just for amazon robotics*

teal jackal
autumn ridge
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seems somewhat split. I would say it's 60% codesignal 40% hackerank for me this season

teal jackal
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why is finding a good job so hard

night magnet
lament summit
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Maybe not good job more like amazing job

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good job is 150k+ HCOL, 40hrs

teal jackal
timber rock
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cries in uk salary

twilit wasp
teal jackal
sonic coral
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Honestly I’d argue 120k hcol is still a good job

teal jackal
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Tbh if I was mentally able to settle for 90k new grad I'd probably stop caring and just do the job search later

timber rock
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I saw a full time grad role for 19k yesterday lol

teal jackal
twilit wasp
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where in uk?

timber rock
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Yeah uk can't remember which city

teal jackal
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Italians are broke compared to Americans, growing up in the USA I could never imagine being stuck there

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So glad my dad immigrated to the USA

twilit wasp
lament summit
twilit wasp
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but even that, like avg salary in ldn for swe is £35k PepeHands

timber rock
hexed canopy
twilit wasp
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sound like it's in the middle of nowhere hmmm

timber rock
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Don't think too many people are wanting to move to hull

teal jackal
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I'd survive but wouldn't be the happiest man on earth

twilit wasp
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i saw companies with £24k for Edinburgh :)))

teal jackal
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Damn the UK is such a ripoff

sonic coral
rain patio
timber rock
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24k in edinburgh is such a scam

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I wouldn't accept anything under 30k

twilit wasp
lament summit
twilit wasp
timber rock
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People here saying c1 pays 140k in nyc

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In London it's 45k

twilit wasp
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idk if 45k is enough for ldn

teal jackal
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I know I can achieve them, but it'll be a hard and uncertain path to achieve it

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Don't even know if I will

timber rock
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45k is fine if you have flatmates or live in zone 3-4ish

teal jackal
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I just don't like feeling like I missed out on my potential

timber rock
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My bare minimum for London would be 35k

twilit wasp
teal jackal
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How much is rent per month in London

rain patio
teal jackal
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Does London also have crazy expensive rent

twilit wasp
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1k at least

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800 is considered cheap and lucky

timber rock
teal jackal
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That sucks

twilit wasp
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in zone 1-2

timber rock
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Alone

teal jackal
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I thought that London was supposed to be first world tbh

twilit wasp
smoky lodge
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Guyz this is such an easy problem just don’t be born in Europe lol

teal jackal
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I'm surprised that life in London is a crappy value proposition

timber rock
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You could probably get 1k in zone 1-2 with flatmates

teal jackal
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So glad I don't live there anymore tho

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Even a mid job I'd be unhappy with in America would pay me better than a good British job

twilit wasp
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but yeah, i dont think you will have much left after paying rent, bills, tax and council tax

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and transport to work

timber rock
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Yeah

twilit wasp
night magnet
timber rock
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London sucks ass for new grads but smaller cities can be better

night magnet
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Quality of life is higher even if Pay isn’t

timber rock
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Like I know jp morgan in Glasgow pays 42k to new grads which is quite a lot for glasgow

twilit wasp
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no they dont

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it's 37k base salary (a friend told me that was her offer)

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i know barclays paid 40k for interns in glasgow

teal jackal
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Wow

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40k pounds?

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I know the pound used to be worth a lot more than the USD

twilit wasp
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goldman sach new grad for next year will be 55k base salary

timber rock
sonic coral
twilit wasp
lament summit
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fr

teal jackal
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Shit I need to come up with something funny

twilit wasp
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im a scottish highland coo

timber rock
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Really

fossil jewel
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im a doge too

twilit wasp
teal jackal
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I'm a wise oak tree

marble bronze
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We're in the endgame now

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timber rock
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Baby one lives near me

twilit wasp
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hehe, are you based in scotland?

lament summit
timber rock
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Yeah

teal jackal
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As in everything is screwed?

winter thistle
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is meta rescinding return offers now?

twilit wasp
grizzled bronze
timber rock
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i just saw ur in the discords

twilit wasp
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Oh really?

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Ahahahaa just saw that you’re in the sdp channel, fun times

timber rock
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god help me

austere grove
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fax

timber rock
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i actually enjoyed sdp tbf

twilit wasp
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What courses do you take?

twilit wasp
timber rock
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blockchains, bioinformatics, intro to dbs

twilit wasp
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I met a lot of people, which im close friends now, but apart from that, i hated everything else

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Doing bioinf as well

teal jackal
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I don't feel like the people who I considered my friends are my friends

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I don't like my "friend group" anymore

winter thistle
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same

austere grove
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as soon as i get a tech offer i am cancelling all my quant interviews ong

uncut umbra
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got bb next round

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after flopping the phone so hard lmao

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it's physically on campus lol

austere grove
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bbg bar is on the floor

uncut umbra
twilit wasp
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Bloomberg or?

foggy perch
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a good chunk of people seem to be getting bb rejections tho

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so ig they have some bar at least

sweet urchin
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i had a pretty good interview and got rejected after final

teal jackal
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How does job hops work?
Main problem with the job hop world tbh is that there's no hand waving when it comes to what you want, like what interns and new grads get.
You have to know exactly what you offer to the company and exactly what role you have to fit into.
Which is why I feel immense pressure to do it right the first time

sweet urchin
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i think the ones you see getting offers are people that wouldnt normally go for BB under other economic circumstances

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you also do see people bragging about their rejects lol

uncut umbra
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yeah in gates I think

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next week

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unless OCI is a campus location

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will do lmao

foggy perch
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ask for a free bb subscription 4head

nocturne oriole
wicked rivet
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what is roblox process like

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just got vo after oa

uncut umbra
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I mean they fucking might

austere grove
foggy perch
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2 technical 2 behavioral

wicked rivet
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o shoot

foggy perch
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if you're fringe

austere grove
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JS rejected me during the onsite

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no ididnt

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day 10 no swag

teal jackal
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is that like the third chance?
first chance being intern, second chance being new grad

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interesting

austere grove
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they asked me some mathy question

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and i did the math wrong

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-> reject on the spot

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im so retarded i forgot how to calculate weighted averages

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no swe

uncut umbra
teal jackal
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but i feel like from intern->new grad->job hop, career expectations against you become increasingly focused and you have to be more specialized to have those chcances

weak latch
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Bloomberg on-site is in person?

uncut umbra
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for me yes

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they have a presence on campus

weak latch
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Weird

austere grove
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wtf

teal jackal
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even as a new grad, i feel like new grad apps ask for a lot of very specific things

uncut umbra
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idts

calm shale
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wait did meta rescind offers?

uncut umbra
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they're coming onto my campus

weak latch
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Top 5?

teal jackal
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its a lot more specific than intern expectations

uncut umbra
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so they'd want the onsite then

nocturne oriole
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If anybody wants a “math” interview question i got it was to solve how many steps a given number is from 1 using the Collatz Conjecture

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Wont say who asked

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And whatever solution you’re thinking of is not optimized

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It has to be optimized

austere grove
teal jackal
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i see

crude saffron
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Mage had hrt to get past js screen

nocturne oriole
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Bro this guy is right like 50% of times, wait

teal jackal
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i think im fucked for new grad, so im gonna just gigatryhard for the first job hop

austere grove
crude saffron
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Mage is quant hater now tho

teal jackal
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start spam applying 9 months ino

austere grove
weak latch
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Uh oh

austere grove
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now

nocturne oriole
austere grove
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before hrt -> i love quant, afger hrt i hate quant

crude saffron
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Hrt had low core rr

marble bronze
crude saffron
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Mage got unlucky

austere grove
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i feel like the work is long and hard and pay is great but not great enough

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idk about the algo eng side of things

crude saffron
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QOL doesn’t rly increase linearly wrt pay at a certain point

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Certainly sublinear

austere grove
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and it's not like fuck u money pay

teal jackal
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i think im fucked for new grad, so im gonna just gigatryhard for the first job hop
the day i reach the 8 month checkmark at whatever job i can scrape together, i spam apply to job hop positions
spam study the most advanced leetcode principles, study systems, networks, and sysdesign and OOP principles
know EVERYTHING
spend every minute hustling

austere grove
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it's just a moderately more than faang swe fro the first 4ish years

bronze nymph
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i agree 100%

crude saffron
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1 month ago i was dumb tc clout chaser now I’m stuck outside the us with no friends and no dateable population

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Rip

azure zephyr
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no way

crude saffron
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I should’ve done swe

austere grove
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"no dateable population"

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is chiraq that bad

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wtf?

crude saffron
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I’m in the Bahamas…

austere grove
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what the fuck LOL

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i forgot

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alameda

teal jackal
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Damn

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wat

crude saffron
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Job

austere grove
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wait

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doesnt the bahamas get like rich girls vacationing year round

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cant be that bad

crude saffron
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Yes

austere grove
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just go tot he beach

crude saffron
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Yes

austere grove
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alameda pays a shit ton after y1 i think

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and it's a lot y1 too

rain patio
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Crypto mm firm

austere grove
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@crude saffron how many years are you gonna do it

azure zephyr
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i've never heard of a company rescinding intern offers

austere grove
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this cant be a long term play right

azure zephyr
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how much shit is meta in jeeze

crude saffron
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Until I get burnt out

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Then I’ll go chill at some chill firm idk

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Or retire

winter thistle
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is the codesignal method patched?

austere grove
weak latch
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Amazon would never

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Kek

rain patio
crude saffron
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No I’m dumb

winter thistle
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amazon is lit

nocturne oriole
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There was a good article recently on why meta is in the shitter but yeah like 5 bad decisions and 10 external factors

austere grove
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god

nocturne oriole
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It’s stock is doing twice as worse as typical tech stock

austere grove
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does roblox reject early

winter thistle
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i believe in amazon supremacy

grizzled bronze
austere grove
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the worst thing about working at roblox seems saying you work at roblox

nocturne oriole
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Wait so swe at quant pretty much scales same as swe at faang? Is what ur saying?

austere grove
winter thistle
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who tryna get a job at meta?

austere grove
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yeah traders/researchers will out earn the swe by a lot

lament summit
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hows quant researcher wlb

austere grove
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the moral of the story is there is no free lunch

lament summit
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but u need phd no?

crude saffron
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No

lament summit
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undergrad works?

austere grove
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@crude saffron no shot this is true ?

crude saffron
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Just be good

austere grove
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at hrt a lot of qr interns seemed to work 12/day

teal jackal
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i guess i am overthinking it then
a lot of the jobs at the first job hop level are still fairly generalist
"experience working with full stack apps" doesnt specify what tech stack and shit
and what exactly about full stack did you work on

crude saffron
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Yea cause they wanna get paid

nocturne oriole
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I mean sounds like swe at quant worth it for high floor at junior and mid level

crude saffron
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It takes a month or two if ur efficient with time

nocturne oriole
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But sure if u work 60+ then u get fucked

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Ur mental gets fucked

crude saffron
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Yea

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That’s what I did in the summer

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I was pre med and didn’t wanna do medicine

austere grove
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the math isnt that advanced right?

crude saffron
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So I grinded a summer for quant

austere grove
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stop the cap

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you dont need a couple pubs

crude saffron
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I was at js and I’m dumb

austere grove
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you just need to pass their interviews

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correlation

crude saffron
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Oh no qr u actually have to be smart

austere grove
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oh qr at js b ar is pretty high

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trader

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seems hard btu doable

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if u grind a lot

crude saffron
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7/9 qr were from mit iirc

teal jackal
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jane street reallly wants true geniuses

austere grove
crude saffron
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Trader is easier than dev

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I can’t do dev

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Trader is just high school math

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But then they realized I’m dumb so no ro

austere grove
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the first question for me for js swe was also high school math

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i fucked it up tho

crude saffron
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55%

austere grove
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im too dumb to do high school math

smoky lodge
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still not rejected by microsoft

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us

slate bobcat
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I’m actually so mad about Microsoft being full

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I was really hoping I could secure them

austere grove
compact sundial
austere grove
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a few weeks ago

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that all these places will be full soon

teal jackal
austere grove
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everyone said not to worry and not to believe me lmao

teal jackal
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GEDDEON GONNA BE THE ONE GUY WHO GETS IT

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😻

slate bobcat
smoky lodge
floral plank
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But definitely will

nocturne oriole
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This is peak 2023 new grads right now

low scroll
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damn bruh

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MSFT layoffs

nocturne oriole
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We got the goats like mage, gedeon, and el gato

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@pulsar mural is the only real disappointment

foggy perch
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dont you need more math skills

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for trader

ivory stratus
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Dude I feel so bad for next years new grads

teal jackal
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I felt that too

west egret
late kestrel
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go train to be a commodities trader. those guys make a shit ton too and the bar is way lower 😂

austere grove
west egret
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It was still transferred about 2 h ago

foggy perch
ivory stratus
grizzled bronze
ivory stratus
west egret
low scroll
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not sure if it wlil get better next year

rain patio
night magnet
austere grove
floral plank
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Rip Microsoft

teal jackal
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I think Amazon raised the internal bar this year to promote interns to new grads

rain patio
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Oh yeah, no way its gonna repeat itself

west egret
austere grove
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yeah not for another 10ish years probably

west egret
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It’s only October too

crude saffron
rain patio
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Still find the numbers insane, always thought quant was the highest for grads

crude saffron
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It’s also degenerate af

austere grove
crude saffron
#

Nat gas has a higher implied vol than btc

austere grove
#

yeah ofc it does

#

gas is an actual commodity

#

bitcoin is just speculative gambling online magic

#

oh wait

#

vol as in

#

volatliity

crude saffron
#

I agree my new job is scamming kids

austere grove
#

or volume

west egret
#

With the way things are going, I think I’ll still leetcode after I stop interviewing

rain patio
#

Hi guys! Do you have any list of companies you wish to apply for? I need all of them tech, finance, ai related 🥺

night magnet
#

Holy

west egret
#

Can’t be too safe in this economy

austere grove
#

is it really more volatile than btc?

#

that's crazy

floral plank
night magnet
grizzled bronze
west egret
rain patio
#

are the applications for new grads 2023 in US closed? i'm european

austere grove
night magnet
#

Many are closed

ivory stratus
austere grove
#

IBM

#

JPMC

#

FIJ

teal jackal
#

Just woke up from a coma, I can't wait to apply for 2023 new grad at meta

#

😻

rain patio
#

and netflix too

#

mmm stocks going to 0

austere grove
#

TCS and accenture sponsor

waxen bolt
austere grove
rain patio
#

Would u guys pick IMC or a very new crypto mm firm that’s offering 50% more first year? Really not sure about what to do, since IMC is way safer and (probably) chiller, but the upside with this crypto firm can potentially be insane

low scroll
#

what do you guys think about consulting roles

late kestrel
#

stocks very green today, me like

night magnet
crude saffron
#

Which firm

rain patio
night magnet
coarse quiver
rain patio
ivory stratus
waxen bolt
# night magnet Ya

Most stuff opens in August but yeah ideally you apply the day they open

west egret
icy rover
#

has anyone done drw technical for c++ role?

crude saffron
#

K

floral plank
#

Has Samsara reached out to anyone after oa?

crude saffron
#

Dev or trader

icy rover
#

dev

autumn ridge
#

how long should you wait after technical phone screen to follow up with recruiter?

night magnet
west egret
#

That reminds me I need to take codesignal for Samsara

floral plank
west egret
#

Prob get rejected anyways but might as well

blazing crystal
#

has anyone given TikTok/ByteDance OA yet?

night magnet
#

734

rain patio
#

did you see if there are some leaks from coding challenges for 2023?

floral plank
rain patio
#

i will have one at optiver and im pretty nervous

autumn ridge
late kestrel
blazing crystal
#

Any idea?

floral plank
#

Probably some rng but idk

#

The mc was also dumb af

late kestrel
#

dry inbox today angrykirby

blazing crystal
austere grove
ivory stratus
#

With rejections 😎

rain patio
#

Lmao wtf

floral plank
austere grove
#

workbalance

autumn ridge
calm shale
#

Yo what companies don't sponsor? ima apply to them and flex evil_kermit

autumn ridge
#

I think I'm just to dumb but how many people can actually solve hard dp questions they haven't seen before? It feels insurmountable to be able to get to that point

calm shale
silk cape
#

does NASA have new grad?

calm shale
last belfry
#

If it’s first phone when did you take it?

past path
#

Guys, just gave Expedia new grad OA... Was able to get 8/15 for the first ques n all for the second. Should I reapply or is there a chance?

pure mauve
#

when did u apply?

ivory stratus
floral plank
last belfry
#

Can you update me when you get a response, will do samw

teal jackal
#

the dumb personality test

#

or the coding oa

night magnet
#

Are AWS certs useful

foggy perch
#

no

waxen bolt
#

I feel like there are way better things to do than get AWS certs

obsidian quartz
#

If I graduate on december 2022, can I apply for 2024 new grad positions?

waxen bolt
#

Really doubt it. Usually new grad is considered at most 6 months out of college

foggy perch
#

what 2024 positions are being released wtf

#

just apply for 2023 stuff

waxen bolt
#

Unless you're doing grad school

foggy perch
#

^

late kestrel
#

@foggy perch have you done a bb discovery day/are planning to

foggy perch
#

m

#

lmao

late kestrel
#

o

foggy perch
#

I could ask my recruiter but I don't care that much

teal jackal
#

the job hop seems more intense

late kestrel
#

gotcha jw yep

foggy perch
#

i'm also giving myself some wiggle room incase I renege so I don't look too bad lmao

teal jackal
#

i wanna get it right on the first try

#

i feel like the further you defer the whole "im gonna get it right this time in life" thing the harder and messier it gets to do so

obsidian quartz
teal jackal
#

theoretically nothing is impossible, but it gets a lot harder and a lot messier over time

foggy perch
teal jackal
#

perhpas

waxen bolt
#

I don't think you need to spend a whole year studying LC to get a job...

foggy perch
#

either way waiting for 2024 positions probs not the play

teal jackal
#

yeah just try your best now

#

and honestly, ive seen people job hop from somewhere mid to somewhere amazing in as early as like 4 months in

night magnet
#

And even if u get a bad SWE1 position u can job hop to a good SWE2 position

#

Zon SDE2 pay is cracked

teal jackal
#

do u see local company employees at the SE1 level hopping to other companies too for SE2?

night magnet
#

Ya

#

I’m from Arlington, VA (where HQ2 is) and there’s sm local employees hopping to zon SDE2

teal jackal
#

i heard that at a higher level, relative to the pool of qualified applicants, they take on more people to interview

faint igloo
#

i feel like sde 2 at zon depends alot on sys design portion

night magnet
#

It’s interesting

#

I think high tech pay has allowed more people to retire early

#

Which means the # of seniors is always going down more than before

#

Not sure if that’s a major factor but I think it might be

teal jackal
#

ive never been one to trust the process

#

but i think i should be qualified at the bare minimum level for job hopping

#

no matter where i end up

#

spend first year at mid company > another year in school

past path
teal jackal
#

i think its because i am naturally unable to just "trust the process" and leave shit to fate

#

like i hate the feeling of being a sitting duck

past path
teal jackal
#

nah i geti t

#

i agree with u

ivory stratus
#

How old are all y’all?

livid yew
mint ember
#

i didn t this was my initial offer and i

austere grove
austere grove
weak latch
late kestrel
#

let it be known that if visa sends phone invites on or before 10/11 i win $5 from @weak latch

unknown.png
weak latch
#

LMFAO

livid yew
#

Damn

weak latch
#

I'm telling you they're gonna be slow asf

#

easy $5

austere grove
#

yeah swe industry is finished

#

regression to the mean

#

now swe will be teh saem as accounting

#

everyone will have 60k jobs

#

no recovery

livid yew
#

Lmao just try again in like 2 years ffs

#

You don't need to have big dick 200k right out of college

austere grove
#

or ever really

smoky lodge
#

wait i thought "demand is crazy for experiences SWEs not new grad SWEs"

austere grove
#

plenty of average ameriacns

livid yew
#

Yep

austere grove
#

live on 60k a year for life

livid yew
#

Yep

smoky lodge
late kestrel
livid yew
#

My first SWE job started at 65k,left at 80K

smoky lodge
#

i still see junior and senior swe openings even at places like meta just not entry level stuff

livid yew
austere grove
#

yeah i was big dick incoming 475k out of college, now i play league of legends for a living

crude saffron
#

my tc is also 1/2

livid yew
#

dogesmile me over here chilling at 140K

austere grove
#

incoming incoming *

stone kettle
#

anyone know what expedia process is like?

lavish laurel
#

Sure there are a lot of new grad cs students. But a lot of them are incompetent and did nothing to prepare for the workforce. 150k+ salary roles aren’t going anywhere

smoky lodge
#

i can feel the 475k coming inside me

stone kettle
crude saffron
#

its not 475

austere grove
crude saffron
#

its 435

austere grove
#

oh

#

i thnk it's 420 exactly

late kestrel
crude saffron
#

wanna trade @austere grove ?

austere grove
livid yew
austere grove
#

you can take my spot

stone kettle
#

thanks! i hope i move on from OA

austere grove
#

i take urs

smoky lodge
#

the expedia OA is also hard as balls

stone kettle
#

i got OOM for 1 test so 14/15

smoky lodge
stone kettle
livid yew
#

Lmao

austere grove
#

what's the bset retail place

livid yew
#

Simple modern code

austere grove
#

to work at

#

walmart vs target

livid yew
#

Target maybe

austere grove
#

vs costco

#

costco is good right

livid yew
#

Target

#

Or Costco

austere grove
#

costco has the best benefits

#

anyone know how to get a job at costco

#

unironically better than swe

livid yew
#

Does Costco give you free membership?

smoky lodge
livid yew
#

As a employee

fossil jewel
austere grove
livid yew
#

I mean @austere grove where do you currently work?

austere grove
marble bronze
#

Just tell them to use unsaturated fats then, it's not complicated lmao

austere grove
#

retail, we too hard

livid yew
austere grove
#

wdym hs

smoky lodge
#

@normal narwhal how long did it take you to hear back after the OA

livid yew
#

Oh I thought you said you were 17

compact sundial
austere grove
#

nah i graduated college w/o a job

livid yew
#

Well target yeah is easier work prob

#

Target SWE starts around 85-90K KEKW

austere grove
#

i meant cashier

livid yew
#

Oh then it's gonna be like $12-17/HR

austere grove
#

cannot wait

livid yew
#

My last cashier job in college paid uhhh $12.50/hr

austere grove
#

i might do deliveries too tho

#

or drive uber

#

doordash seems ez if oyu have a bike

#

in nyc

livid yew
#

Yep

austere grove
#

@paper valve do ynou have a bike?

#

doordashmax time?

livid yew
#

I have car, so I could deliver on the side kermit_think

#

Aldi is goated

austere grove
#

hm yeah ill look into it

livid yew
#

I go there like 2-3 times a week

#

Aldi is my bae

austere grove
#

get one and start getting to work then

#

i remember leaving 30 dollar tips to doordash drivers

#

now i am the driver

livid yew
#

Kek I give like 20% tip

#

Fuck that

austere grove
#

we had a large dinner credit i just tipped the rest

livid yew
#

I usually leave it on the default

austere grove
#

if i dont spend it the money disappears

#

so i'd alway sjust tip the rest of my credit

livid yew
#

If it's snowing or something, give more

#

Oh I see

#

Credit yeah

austere grove
#

I KNEW IT

#

QUANT SUCKS MAJOR DICK

#

AHHAHAHA

livid yew
#

Multi tasking they said

#

kermit_think wonder if there is anything sus in here

weak latch
#

FUCK NOOOOOO

livid yew
weak latch
#

microsoft finally rejected me

livid yew
weak latch
#

I wanted my hopium sadge

livid yew
#

I'll give you something better

ivory stratus
livid yew
#

Bro it's been raining for like 5 days straight

#

The fuck

low scroll
weak latch
last belfry
#

Microsoft still has not rejected me

#

Is it final that they are on a freeze

#

Or they still interviewing some people

weak latch
#

yes

last belfry
#

Yes to they on a freeze or still interviewing people LOL

ivory stratus
weak latch
#

yes

#

its a freeze so no interviews

last belfry
#

Got it

ivory stratus
#

You can either wait for the email or just reach out to your recruiter

last belfry
#

Okkkk

livid yew
#

Well if they are on freeze, they should remove postings from their website. That is very mis-leading

last belfry
#

Lol just checked portal it says not selected

#

Screw this market

livid yew
#

@last belfry where else did you apply? like outside FAANG?

weak latch
tepid delta
#

About to do Amazon's OA 1, dumb question but does "Do not leverage the print screen functionality as your session will be terminated" mean no print statements aren't allowed? Or are they referring to printing the actual screen?

livid yew
weak latch
#

200k+ tc or bust

livid yew
weak latch
#

i only apply to faang

#

😤

livid yew
#

I know your joking, but its too funny

weak latch
#

its funny because some people actually do that

livid yew
#

yep

weak latch
#

and look down on those who don't 💀

#

seen it in here a lot

livid yew
#

idiots

#

fucking should be removed from this earth.

#

People who only applied to FAANG do not deserve the covid vaccine

#

too far?

reef wyvern
#

About to do Amazon s OA 1 dumb question

last belfry
livid yew
foggy perch
#

tbh I relate to the faang or bust mindset, but I'd apply to local places if I got rejected everywhere

last belfry
#

Return looking better every day 🥵

weak latch
#

bruh you got a return

#

take that shit and never let go lol

livid yew
#

just take it, and get going

last belfry
#

Yes 😈

foggy perch
#

where's the return for?

livid yew
#

$10 is more than $0

last belfry
#

Just gonna wrap up the current processes

#

And I’m done

last belfry
foggy perch
#

oh ok

#

that's decent

#

you could keep applying for fun if you wanted to tbh

#

otherwise I'd just take a break

smoky lodge
#

i don't think i would stop applying no matter what ofer i got

foggy perch
#

i would

last belfry
#

I am just going to wrap up my current interviews and call it a day

foggy perch
#

if I get Pinterest I'm stopping applications

#

fair

#

where do you gotta interview for

livid yew
#

yeah if you keeping doing interviews/applications, you will never have time to do your current job KEKW

last belfry
#

Bloom, Palantir, Pinterest and c1

foggy perch
#

oh ok nice

#

would you take C1 over JPM?

#

in my mind they're pretty similar

last belfry
#

Depends location

foggy perch
#

there are locations you prefer over nyc?

last belfry
#

If they give me nyc 🙂

livid yew
#

pin altough seems like dying social media

foggy perch
last belfry
#

Id take anything east coast tbh

foggy perch
#

but they're still pog to work at

livid yew
foggy perch
#

so true

livid yew
#

it will never be meta for me

#

even if I work there

#

Im putting Facebook on my resume

#

confuse the fuck outta people

last belfry
#

LOL

wicked pendant
#

in my exp no one talks abt how they use pinterest but a lot of ppl do use it

#

me n all my art friends save photo refs there

foggy perch
#

^

livid yew
#

there will aways be a new wave of HS girls that use Pintrest

foggy perch
#

in my mind people who use pinterest are just non-outspoken about it

#

like stay at home moms

livid yew
#

i dont know many straight males that use pintrest

foggy perch
#

same

runic wind
#

What team

foggy perch
#

when my recruiter asked me about how I knew about pinterest

livid yew
#

or i guess extra gender, cause there are more than 2 now sadge

foggy perch
#

I had to say I only know about pinterest because a female friend uses it for fashion

runic wind
#

I'd take a really nice systems research team at IBM over c1

lost ether
#

Try to get into IBM quantum 👀

waxen bolt
#

IBM 😂

floral plank
#

It depends on where you want to live

foggy perch
#

I'd choose IBM NYC

livid yew
#

was talking to a netflix engineer today at work thanospog

waxen bolt
#

IBM is very poorly managed from what I've heard

foggy perch
#

I've heard IBM tech is super boomer

#

yeah

last belfry
#

Nyc anyday

foggy perch
#

my amazon interviewer spent like half of the interview trash talking IBM lmao

last belfry
#

Wat you gonna do in Virginia 😂

livid yew
#

the netflix guys seem overworked lmao

waxen bolt
livid yew
#

DC is $$$$

foggy perch
last belfry
#

Yea but then drive 😭

foggy perch
#

they get paid big buck tho

livid yew
#

DC not worth it

last belfry
livid yew
#

fuck being that close to sleepy joe

last belfry
#

So I can stay in dc

livid yew
#

nope

#

too lib in DC for me

waxen bolt
#

Bruh DC and NYC are like the same thing

#

Politically

dusty basin
livid yew
#

fine

last belfry
#

Working in nyc is lit

#

So much to do

livid yew
#

but that is something I consider when relocating lmao

#

I mean did any of you even vote in 2016/2020?

last belfry
#

Datadog office view is super nice

dusty basin
livid yew
livid yew
vital meteor
livid yew
#

deadmau5 is from Canada thanospog

last belfry
#

Why is Amazon still having career days when they have a waitlist lol

vital meteor
#

We have too many rights these days tbh do we even need em all

livid yew
#

I am blocked today at work sadge ,waiting for PRs to get approved

last belfry
#

Where you work 👀

livid yew
#

dn

#

the full title is uhh Comcast-NBCUniversial, cause I work on both sides lmao

last belfry
#

🥵

magic acorn
#

I made a small mistake in my bloomberg interview and was rejected. Should i ask for reinterview ?

last belfry
#

What was your mistake lol

late kestrel
#

"i called my recruiter a bitch"

foggy perch
#

unless your house burnt down or something

loud olive
#

I wish I can reinterview every time I made a mistake

dusty basin
livid yew
night magnet
vestal pelican
#

do you think its possible to bribe a recruiter so say that a competeting offer is still active to nego with another company

livid yew
#

that sounds sus

#

and possible illegal

#

idk

waxen bolt
#

Wdym bribe lmao

rain patio
#

@night magnet (or anyone else who got a C1 offer) how long did it take for you get the actual offer letter after the verbal offer? It's been >1 week for me.

dusty basin
vestal pelican
foggy perch
#

just lie at that point

#

competing companies don't message your recruiter lmao

lost ether
#

Yeah always lie, companies like to lowball anyways 😂

foggy perch
#

i probs wouldn't lie unless I was willing to lose the offer in worst case scenario

teal jackal
#

yeah p much

#

yeah i changed my mind

#

honestly if u feel confident enough that you can find a good itnernship

#

tbh just amazon as prior work xp is enough for most internships

#

new grad is just more cutthroat

autumn ridge
#

What do you do for the year before you are allowed to start again though? lol

opaque mango
rain patio
#

How long does it usually take for a company to give offer letter after verbal offer?

opaque mango
#

it was hard af fosure tho

night magnet
ancient holly
night magnet
#

I got the verbal, and then my docs were released in workday right afterwards like the recruiter said they would be

teal jackal
ancient holly
#

yesyes

teal jackal
#

palantir, bloomberg, c1

ancient holly
#

where is c