2023_grads

[compact obsidian]

that's how u know its a shit wlb company

well if it's like an automated OA or smt it's fine

[teal jackal]

damn u got an evolve interivew? congrats thats really good

i havent heard back yet

did u apply

only ppls who get recruiter reachouts regularly are genuinely cracked tbh, or from target school

yeah p much

t5 privilege is real tbh

i go to a mid tier private uni, honestly if it wasn't for the co-op program here(got me my first internship) i probably would have regretted coming here

[lament summit]

Top tier u mean

[teal jackal]

so tru

fr

yall are the reason why we're gonna be god tier as a uni

from top tier to t1

[jaunty basalt]

they didnt

i got both offers

but also the headcount for this program is very very small

like <100

split across the available locations

if it helps, do u want to md5 hash the persons' name to see if we had the same recruiter so you know its not a scam

its still a very good program, just keep in mind its still ICT2 and not all orgs participate

[late kestrel]

nah its slightly different

[jaunty basalt]

LC premium is better

i think bot doesnt get you the entire list, often not enough even if these lists are really long

[late kestrel]

for companies that do reuse qs, its good to study both tho

[jaunty basalt]

wdym by both, one is based off of the other

except the bot is always going to be older

at worst

[late kestrel]

order is different. some bot tagged qs dont show up till like wayyyyy down on the list on lc

[jaunty basalt]

right cuz its old

the frequency change cuz of time

[late kestrel]

yeah but they still use those qs, and list is shorter

for bb i got top k freq words, and on bot its towards the bottom. but on lc its like 75-100

just an example

if youve got time id look at bot and top lc

[jaunty basalt]

fair

i didnt get top 100 tagged for my bb interviews

but thats besides the point

[late kestrel]

damn thats kinda wild actually

yup all anecdotes

3/4 of mine were either top 10 lc tagged or on bot tagged

[jaunty basalt]

at least you have something to study

oh wow

thats pretty nice

wait you only had 4 problems?

[late kestrel]

yeah felt pretty lucky ab that

yeah 1 on my phone, 1 on VO 1, and 2 on VO 2

[jaunty basalt]

bruh

i had 2, 3, 2

the expectation for the one with 3 was not to finish them all

[late kestrel]

tbf the first phone was like an lc easy that turned into top freq words so technically 2 questions 😂

[jaunty basalt]

still did but thats wild

no i dont count warmup

but sure

could just be easy to you

[late kestrel]

all a luck game

[tardy geode]

cool

oh so the bot one is updated

[jaunty basalt]

no its not

[tardy geode]

oh i see

[jaunty basalt]

where do you think the information comes from

its comes from the list

[tardy geode]

gotcha

gotta study bot first then top LC tagged

[jaunty basalt]

but how frequently it updates is probably not consistent

yeah its shorter

[tardy geode]

oh i see

[jaunty basalt]

and its free

[late kestrel]

idk how much time you have but id do them in like 10 q increments

10 of bot 10 of lc, theres gonna be overlap

[jaunty basalt]

10 per session?

oh

ok lol

[tardy geode]

thats a nice strat

[jaunty basalt]

at the time, i just looked at the bot and search for it in the list

and i saw it on the list at some point so i just figured id get to it eventually

[rain patio]

[jaunty basalt]

"gonna focus on my work"

[cobalt siren]

Any idea if 2/3 questions is enough to pass Atlassian OA?

been like 3 business days and am getting worried cause a lot of people heard back earlier

[twilit wasp]

If credit suisse falls we’re all

[teal jackal]

Karat in 50 minutes

Fuck I should have scheduled it for monday

Why tf did I do it today

[austere grove]

Leetcoding

[foggy ginkgo]

anybody do gem final

[twilit wasp]

is it for palantir?

[teal jackal]

yeah

i already know there's one problem that id be screwed if i got it

[knotty folio]

What does it mean to be a "hiring manager"? Is that the manager of the team that you would be on if you get the job?

[tardy geode]

yeah i saw this on linkedin , imo its too much smh

[austere grove]

you'llbe fine

[stable wharf]

What do you guys think about not offering relocation

I want to go from Wisconsin to New York

I feel like a company should provide relocation for that

The base comp and stock is good otherwise

[late kestrel]

a company not offering reloc for fte isnt super uncommon

[autumn ridge]

I mean it's not super nice of the company to not provided it but at the end of the day you can just factor that relo cost into the offer. Also once you have an offer letter it should be pretty easy to get a 15 month 0% APR credit card for the upfront cost of moving

[exotic lintel]

which credit card should i get ?

i have BOA credit card rn, it's ok not great

[last summit]

https://m16p-churning.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/Card+Recommendation+Flowchart+v18.html

[exotic lintel]

wow

[azure zephyr]

won't your credit limit not be super high initially tho?

[autumn ridge]

Actually I just googled this and I'm wrong you can't use an offer letter as proof of income. So it's more shitty than I thought if a company doesn't provide any relo

[azure zephyr]

man i was thinking that too

i rly want to get the chase sapphire preserve card but i'll have to wait until i start my post grad job it seems

idk how ppl afford to move right out of college lmao

[jaunty basalt]

Offer letter was enough for proof of income

But yeah credit limit do be low

[marble bronze]

I got lucky with parents that knew what they were doing

[late kestrel]

if you dont have a cc snag yourself a discover it

usually pretty easy to get approved, good cashback rewards

[marble bronze]

Secured credit cards are the way to go to build initial credit if you have little yeah

[dusty basin]

Or chase freedom if you already have an account with them

[marble bronze]

Or is that the non secured

[dusky plover]

@marble bronze what offer u get crip

[marble bronze]

That was the ATT one that you saw a while back

[dusky plover]

ohhh right

i forgot 💀

mb

[marble bronze]

Really loving the Fidelity card, 2% on everything

SeatGeek rejected me after final unfortunately

[dusky plover]

keep pushin

[marble bronze]

Still waiting on Fannie Mae, no clue what the hell is going on with Cigna

Boomer F500s be super damn slow with hiring process, it's a bit frustrating

[dusky plover]

i wonder what the deadline is for most ppl to keep interviewing until they have to stop to work at their initial offer

[marble bronze]

I was thinking of slowing down/stopping but I think I'm gonna continue applying to tech companies, just not F500s and such that don't focus on tech

Unless they're airlines because I want that sweet sweet travel benefits

[late kestrel]

they have a discover it, discover it student, and discover it secured im pretty sure

[marble bronze]

🤔

[azure zephyr]

yeah i just opened a secured card with navy federal

after six months it becomes unsecured i think

[tardy geode]

i get super nervous during live coding , mess up even the easiest thing smh

[late kestrel]

i snagged a citi double cash this summer, gonna go for a custom cash next

either that or a wf autograph

[teal jackal]

3/3

[late kestrel]

idk yet, waiting a lil

[twilit wasp]

what questions did you get?

[teal jackal]

Graphs

i credit the mountain dew, it really helped calm my nerves

[twilit wasp]

what kind of graphs? trees & nodes or ?

[teal jackal]

Graph building and search

[twilit wasp]

how many coding qs did you get?

[teal jackal]

Everyone gets 3 if they can finish in time

[twilit wasp]

oof last year i did 1.5 lol

not sure how many i can complete this year 🤡

[teal jackal]

Godspeed my dood

When do u have it

[twilit wasp]

tomorrow

did you finish all 3?

[teal jackal]

This

[twilit wasp]

were the 3 questions on graph building then?

[teal jackal]

I heard karat problem pool is weighted more heavily towards graphs

Yeah all problems are related

[twilit wasp]

my friend interviewed on friday and his 2 qs were not related and not graphs haha, one of them was what i had last year

[teal jackal]

Weird

[twilit wasp]

didn't get to start the 3rd one

[teal jackal]

Their interview musta broken protocol, or your friend couldn't see the connection between the two qs

I'd make sure you have decent knowledge and experience with all major paradigms, going in

[twilit wasp]

just finished the second one on time and they ended the interview, so he is not sure if he is going to make it through the cut :/

[teal jackal]

F

Good luck to them

[twilit wasp]

i told him to rescheduled, but he cba

[twilit wasp]

time to dive more into graph :)))

[teal jackal]

Cba?

[twilit wasp]

i hate them

[twilit wasp]

cant be arsed/bothered

[teal jackal]

I'm not gonna do a redo

If I get rejected then that's a bruh moment for palantir, not me

[twilit wasp]

well if you completed all 3 on time then idk what palantir is looking for

[teal jackal]

also drink mtn dew during your interview

it helped me

[twilit wasp]

time to go grocery shop hahaha

[dense cloud]

i think they will usually indicate if u need a redo or not

like sometimes when u click the redo they would say something like you do not need to complete a redo

[teal jackal]

i see

i like karat tbh

[lament summit]

I got graph for only my last q

[teal jackal]

i thought it was very no bs

[lament summit]

Everything else was not graph

[teal jackal]

interesting

there is no protocol i guess

[lament summit]

Someone else got dp

So yeah

[azure zephyr]

just schedule the redo so you know if you passed or not, they cancel it if you did

[teal jackal]

im not gonna

if they fail me then theyre nuts

my interviewer said tho that it doesnt count against u

[twilit wasp]

i think they take the best between the 2 if you do a redo?

not sure

[warped cedar]

c1 powerday doesnt do leetcode right

[teal jackal]

I heard it's an ood problem, behavioral story time, I have no idea what the case is

[weak latch]

i thought it was technical (lc/ood), behavioral, case (baby sys design)

[teal jackal]

Ah

Is the case purely verbal problem solving

Or is there coding

[warped cedar]

i hope its ood and not leetcode

im praying LOL

case i heard was problem solving and like reading thru code/debugging

but i dont think u have to write code

[teal jackal]

I see

Doesn't sound that bad

I heard there's no real way to prep for it

[warped cedar]

yeah i watched a video

they sent like resources for the case interview

[teal jackal]

Wait where do u find it

[warped cedar]

i just seriously hope that technical is just ood and not lc cuz i havent been studying lc

[weak latch]

did you just get power day invite @teal jackal

[teal jackal]

Does anybody else feel like their brain grows a size after doing an interview successfully

[warped cedar]

they sent like a link to an unlisted playlist

[teal jackal]

I got it last month

[weak latch]

sorry @warped cedar was the one who got it

dude

[warped cedar]

i got it like in august

[weak latch]

its been a month since i sent my preferred dates ffs

[warped cedar]

my powerday is tmr LOL

[weak latch]

over a month

i got invited to do a powerday in august

[teal jackal]

Bro c1 power day is mad backlogged

[weak latch]

radio silence

[teal jackal]

If you ask to push up you prob can

Email someone imo

[weak latch]

i emailed the recruiter 2 weeks ago

[teal jackal]

O

[warped cedar]

guys i just want a job any job

[teal jackal]

Now that sucks

[weak latch]

"thanks for your patience, sorry for the inconvenience, we'll update you when we have an update"

[teal jackal]

That's a moment

[weak latch]

im tempted to tell them i just got another offer so i wanna interview ASAP

[marble bronze]

Every 60 seconds a minute passes

[weak latch]

even tho i didn't

[teal jackal]

Tbh I feel like you can lie and say that

[dusky plover]

dude

[warped cedar]

i wish i can just skip the interview and have an offer 💔

[dusky plover]

why do mfs flake on pramp mocks

waste of hour allocation

[teal jackal]

Pramp?

[teal jackal]

So true

[dusky plover]

its an interviewing platform

[fickle bridge]

I think pramp always allows scheduling

[dusky plover]

to practice with other students or professionals

[teal jackal]

Ah yeah makes sense

It's rude to waste someone's time when they are trying to help u

[fickle bridge]

And if there is odd number of people coming in, one person missed

E.g just one person scheduled

[tardy geode]

can someone help me out in the #leetcode_discussion chanel?

[worthy sapphire]

Did anyone do roblox final interviewscan you share how is it like?

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/stoned-walked-walking-tug-a-war-statue-gif-5660223

[teal jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844682066061819994/1024879981408555078/20220929_045636.jpg

[grizzled bronze]

It could work, but they also might end up telling you to take the other offer

[weak latch]

i'll tell them i'd rather interview at capital one

[buoyant pulsar]

Hello! today, I am happy to announce that, I cracked Microsoft's OA 😄

I have a 30 minutes interview scheduled in 2 weeks from now( behavioural interview I suppose?)

Could anyone answer a couple of questions I have regarding the interview process? How many rounds etc. I am from Europe btw.
I would highly appreciate it, thanks in advance

[weak latch]

how'd you even get an oa

oh eu

hmm

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah they said the outcome will be out 1 month after the next interview

which outcome? like, the offer itself?

i'm confused lol

[weak latch]

???

i asked how you got the oa lol

bc they've been ghosting me

for 2 months

[buoyant pulsar]

ive heard that someone heard back even after 2 months

dont give up

[weak latch]

they said they're canceling all interviews

at least for US

[buoyant pulsar]

sh1t

[weak latch]

so it's pretty much a dead dream lol

this was an email someone sent in here a while back

[buoyant pulsar]

it's not over until you receive an email like that too

😉

[weak latch]

only people who are actually interviewing would get that

[buoyant pulsar]

btw, are u familiar with the interview rounds? are they different from those in europe?

[ivory stratus]

Not all interviews

[weak latch]

how am i supposed to know if i can't even get an oa bro

[buoyant pulsar]

Idk maybe you've heard from someone else or you've read it somewhere haha

[rapid dawn]

Hi anyone got phone interview from valkyrie trading?

[clever orbit]

do companies ever look at your online hacckerank assessment?

[teal jackal]

yes

[clever orbit]

o

lol

[teal jackal]

oh man im so excited abt the long weekend
gonna go to vermont
for foliage
with family

[clever orbit]

are you joking or?

[teal jackal]

nah on god

joking abt what

[clever orbit]

companies looking at ur hacckerank code

though they just look at the score

[teal jackal]

ah

thats what u meant

[clever orbit]

yh lol

[teal jackal]

they might still look at it

but usually no

[clever orbit]

hopefully thye dont

cuz i cheated the fuck out of that last one

[teal jackal]

if your code is fine and optimal

just ugly

wait hackerrank does have like cheat flagging

or some shit

like if its sussy

i think

[clever orbit]

I used a seconday laptop lma

lmao

oh yh the code is susy icl

[normal palm]

bruh why is everyone in this channel getting bb and i get straight up resume rejected LOl

[teal jackal]

visa? sponsorship

[clever orbit]

these mofos gave me a dp question

was aids

[teal jackal]

idk

try alt email

i got resume rj first

and then tried again

success

[normal palm]

ye im canadian

bruh

how easy are bb interviews

lc easy-med?

[crystal delta]

2 lc med

[hasty birch]

Does this actually work for most companies? Do you also change the email on your resume when you do this?

[lone rapids]

Yea i got bb resume reject too. I need sponsorship too

[static moth]

lc plus sys design

[static moth]

my friend got bb interview but needs sponsorship too

[lone rapids]

Idk how it works

[static moth]

i got resume screened this year as well xd

[lone rapids]

Ill try alt email but seems like too late now

[teal jackal]

Might not work at some companies

[static moth]

i got bb interview 2 years ago with nothing on my resume lol. with 2 big tech on my resume this year i got screened

[teal jackal]

But at bbg it works

I confirmed

[grizzled bronze]

Microsoft isn't cancelling all interviews for US. That screenshot someone posted was for a Technical Support role.

[livid citrus]

anyone know if getting 1/2 on Peak6 OA is enough to get the next round?

[teal jackal]

Yeah Bloomberg has absolutely NO methodology to resume screen

Confirmed

[weak latch]

o??

[grizzled bronze]

Says so in the email

[livid citrus]

by 1/2 I literally mean 15/15 on the first question and 0/15 on the second question

[weak latch]

but the email made it sound like the 2022 intern class overall was strong

didn't rly specify

[weak latch]

bloomberg logic

[lone rapids]

Will alt email work for bb this late?

[teal jackal]

dew it

if it fails the second time, it probably just wasnt meant to be

id let it be after 2 tries

[grizzled bronze]

That's referring to that specific Technical Support role. The recruiter only recruits for business roles, not SWE.

[calm shale]

how long did yall wait after first bb phone?

[west egret]

Wait, BB asks system design?

[hasty birch]

Rng

[west egret]

I’m just a LC monkey

[static moth]

heard it's in the EM round i think?

[late kestrel]

im realizing if you need to do some cs student advertising for a company just interview a shit ton of students

theyll be constantly talking about you

[west egret]

I’m not there yet. Virtual on-site isn’t for another 1.5 weeks. Hope it’s just RNG.

[late kestrel]

seems to be completely random. mines on thursday so hoping for the best 🥹

[dusky plover]

yo

is anyone interviewing with oracle rn

for an entry role

those mfs never reply

[night magnet]

Ong

I want oracle dawg

[dusky plover]

same cuzzie

[calm shale]

this is big brained

never would have found out half the companies if not for this sub

[azure zephyr]

bro oracle recruiter reached out me weeks ago and was like i wanna interview you, pushed me to final round and said that he'll get back to me next week for scheduling details...

[lament summit]

Why oracle

[azure zephyr]

that was like 2-3 weeks ago and haven't heard back since 😂😂

[lament summit]

why u guys want oracle

[azure zephyr]

he emailed me a week ago and said oh we're still finalizing headcount but will get back to me asap 😐

[foggy perch]

oci big pay

but also desperate times

[lament summit]

but shit work

[azure zephyr]

wlb is decent i hesrd

[lament summit]

I burned my bridge with oci

[foggy perch]

Money > Work

[lament summit]

can never interview again probably

[azure zephyr]

im supposed to be interviewing with the global business unit if they ever get back to me

oracle: good pay, decent wlb, not an insane interview process based on what i read

[foggy perch]

any offers to compare with yet or nah

since didn't you have a million interviews

[lament summit]

I think only oci is good pay

and oci is shit wlb

[azure zephyr]

🍌

[foggy perch]

o

I highkey think amazon > normal oracle

[lament summit]

Id take banana over oracle easily

[night magnet]

^

[azure zephyr]

wait they all pay differently?

[foggy perch]

si

[calm shale]

whats oci

[foggy perch]

oracle cloud stuff

[night magnet]

Cloud

[azure zephyr]

oh i didnt know that lmao

[lament summit]

oracle cloud infra

[foggy perch]

also dang you a return amazon intern

[azure zephyr]

idk how to keep up with all of this lmaoo

[lament summit]

Id pick aws over oci

[foggy perch]

or did you apply super early

[lament summit]

Easily

[night magnet]

Same

[azure zephyr]

im not a return, i applied early ig

[foggy perch]

nice

[calm shale]

damn didn't know oracle pay is decent

i just assumed its 🥜

so never even checked

[lament summit]

Nah it’s faang level

[calm shale]

is it boomer tech tho

[lament summit]

I reneged them last szn

[azure zephyr]

but dont wanna go to zon bc the wlb is so team dependent its such a gamble, dont wanna go somewhere where its hire to fire

[bronze nymph]

i didn't read context, so you might have been joking, but this aint true

[night magnet]

180 ng iirc

[night magnet]

Facts

[foggy perch]

nah for me this is true

[lament summit]

Can go up to 220-230 with competing

[foggy perch]

I'd gladly take a boring 500k job over a 200k fun job

[azure zephyr]

looking for good culture and good pay hopefully

[night magnet]

Sheeesh

[bronze nymph]

that's different, like for oci vs amazon specifically

[lament summit]

But do u really wanna work there tho

[bronze nymph]

the marginal short term difference

you're prob bottlenecking yourself in the future

due to the lack of knowledge

[foggy perch]

meh amazon beats oci in both I believe

[bronze nymph]

if someones paying you 500k youll be doing good work

[calm shale]

? define good

[foggy perch]

^

[night magnet]

Cap

[bronze nymph]

there's no definition, im just saying like if the gap is 300k, you're not going to be given trash

[night magnet]

I know so many ppl making 500+ doing jack

[calm shale]

^

[night magnet]

Like <25 hrs/wk

At faang especially

[bronze nymph]

idk man, either their underselling what they're doing or they're all insanely lucky

[foggy perch]

are you saying good as in learning experience

good as in interesting

or good for the world

[bronze nymph]

LMAO not for the world haha

[calm shale]

tc != work tho most the time

[foggy perch]

okkkkk

I wasn't sure which good you meant there

[bronze nymph]

like learning i mean

[foggy perch]

probs true

[nocturne cedar]

oci pays more tc i believe than aws

u get more stock

[foggy perch]

does it

[bronze nymph]

no tech company is good for the world pretty much

[nocturne cedar]

its like 185 vs 195 for seattle

[azure zephyr]

damn i dont really know anybody in the tech world 😂 im like the first in my friend group to aim for big tech

but a lot of my friends are stem but not cs majors or liberal arts majors

my sis who's a recruiter at aws said average lifespan of an engineer there is 9 months to a year

[foggy perch]

sounds about right lolll

my interviewers basically confirmed to me AWS wlb is very not good even though they tried to downplay

my first interviewer was from aws and I directly asked them about on-call

they casually said they worked 36 hours straight before

[night magnet]

Wtf

Where are these people

[foggy perch]

afterwards they were like "oh but it was chill because I got extra time off afterwards"

[night magnet]

I hear about AWS horrible wlb on blind and online but in person everyone I’ve met has been totally chill at AWS

[foggy perch]

and I was just thinking 🧢

idk I got different vibes

[night magnet]

I live right next to HQ2 so I know hella ppl at AWS

[nocturne cedar]

same experience it really is team dependent in aws

[azure zephyr]

well ya know usually ppl only talk about the negative so the online feedback can be skewed

[foggy perch]

Interviewer 1 vibe was "Oh on-call happens like once every 1-2 months, but don't worry everyone is suffering with you"

[night magnet]

And they’re all so chill but everyone online says AWS is horrible

[azure zephyr]

how's rippling comp in US?

[foggy perch]

good

[azure zephyr]

i still need to do the hackerrank

[night magnet]

220 I think

[azure zephyr]

but idk how to prepare for the api question

[ivory stratus]

I mean once every month or two isn’t bad

[night magnet]

HR is pretty easy

[foggy perch]

ehhhh

[night magnet]

It’s not bad

[foggy perch]

if it's on-call to 4 AM once every 1-2 months

[night magnet]

Just know how to use requests package

[foggy perch]

I'd rather not

[ivory stratus]

If I knew I got time off for it though I wouldn’t mind

[foggy perch]

since the way amazon on-call works is you're potentially on-call for the entire week?

[night magnet]

140k base

Rest is paper

[foggy perch]

so you have to be wary of being called at 2 am every day for that week

i'd hate that

[night magnet]

Dang

Jesus

Wow

That’s so good for CA

Holy

[foggy perch]

uh isn't half of the pay

uh

fake money

since rippling is still private right

I'm looking at the top result you gave which is 152k base

128k stock

fair

i think 280k def misleading tho

unless you have a lot of confidence

in rippling ipo

[night magnet]

Yeah

It’s a gamble

Same thing as picking ur own stocks to buy

[azure zephyr]

can somebody explain to me how paper money works

[night magnet]

It’s gambling

Ur getting that the company will ipo

If they don’t it’s worth zero (unless they have a secondary market/buybacks)

[azure zephyr]

so if youre getting 50k in stock a year from a priv company, youre not actually getting the 50k? you have it but it can't be liquid until they ipo?

[night magnet]

Yeah. can also be liquid if they allow a secondary market or buyback the stock themselves.

[azure zephyr]

so basically its useless?

unless they ipo then that 200k could potentially be worth a lot more

it kinda seems like rippling with ipo in 2-3 years

hm okay thats pretty confusing but what im getting is that at least for the present future, joining a pre ipo company means any stock you get from them aren't rly worth anything until they ipo

which could either be a big gain or big loss depending on how that goes

buybacks are when the company will buy it back from you?

[slim agate]

Yes

[azure zephyr]

yeah my vanta recruiter was going into that friday but i didn't really understand so i just didn't ask questions 😅

okay that makes a lot more sense now, thank you

[static moth]

bro that's most probably fake

levels isn't accurate anymore lol

i can go and put in a 400k offer for burger king and it'll go thru

i'm sure even stripe in canada isn't 150k USD base lol

ur going off ONE submission too for toronto. my hunch is it's obviously probably in CAD and not USD if it was even that high in the first place

has to be it bro

150k usd base in canada is just an exaggeration

[lament sail]

Rippling is 150-160k ish base depends how u negotiate. RSU is like 160-190k ish RSU based on how u negotiate also over 4 years. No sign on. 5k relocation if ur outside 100 mile radius of an office. RSU will be evaluated at 9b or 11.3b. Depends when u join

[lament summit]

sheee

thats crazy offer

[lament sail]

They also don’t base offers on location I believe. They will ask you to relocate to an office within 40 miles. If you choose to be remote u take a 10% base salary cut

[static moth]

yea makes sense for the US. but canada 150k usd base is just unbelievable

even stripe isn't at that kind of money in canada

[lament sail]

U will get that base even if ur based in Canada. There’s remote workers in Canada 🙂

But since there’s no office in Canada. With their new RTO policy everyone takes a 10% pay cut I think

[static moth]

maybe 150k cad

doubt it's in usd

lol

[lament sail]

Gets replaced with $600 WFH stipend lol

[lament sail]

I know people who work Canada 🙂. It’s USD

[static moth]

oh damn wtf

[lament sail]

Could range from 190ish - 215ish with 9b valuation for rsu

It’s like 215ish -230 at 11.3b but any valuation rn is absurd

Has like next 1-2 years baked in

Yea the high base is nice for this market rn

Promotion trajectory and refreshers plus whatever merit bonuses u get are quite nice too

Think it’s roughly 35% base increase + whatever rsu refreshers u get

From new grad to next lvl

Promotion for new grad is roughly 6months - 1.5 years I think

[teal jackal]

based

[lone rapids]

BB is not codesignal right?

[calm shale]

no oa

[west egret]

Nope

[lone rapids]

Then hopefully they are still open cuz Im about to use an alt email

[forest ice]

is 833 good for roblox?

[teal jackal]

Good enough

I wouldn't bother retake for any company

833 implies 4/4

[calm shale]

i thought 4/4 is 840

[gray niche]

n o p e

anything above 825 is 4/4

all depends on speed after that

[teal jackal]

Is lucid trolling with their oa

It's actually hard

[unborn orbit]

has anyone interviewed with verkada

[tacit grove]

straight phone interview

[thorn walrus]

can rsus be sold on the secondary market if it isn’t 6 months post ipo? (double trigger vesting)

[teal jackal]

Fuck lucid lmao

They don't deserve a graph dp solution

[thorn walrus]

so double trigger rsus are just completely illiquid until both clauses are met

i see

feeling less good about my return offer 😢

[teal jackal]

Lucid chart is stupid

Who tf is asking graph dp

[timid steeple]

hey people.

I have a quick question.

Has anyone here gotten an offer from Dropbox Canada yet?

[lament sail]

Without the double trigger, you'll have to pay taxes on RSUs u cant sell and maybe not able to afford, its up to you what is worse

[teal jackal]

honestly lucid left a bad taste in my mouth
Who the FUCK is asking that kind of problem

[grizzled bronze]

lucid

[teal jackal]

it seems that other people here also got unreasonably different problems from lucid

[night magnet]

What was the question lol

[teal jackal]

graph dp

[night magnet]

Sheesh

Straight from LC?

[teal jackal]

its not from LC

[night magnet]

Dang

[teal jackal]

its an in house problem from hackerrank

[night magnet]

TC better be over 180 or they’re 🤡

[teal jackal]

levels.fyi moment

[night magnet]

I’m on it rn lol

No way

This is actually 🤡

This must be a joke

What typa company

[coral finch]

bruh Utah

[hollow condor]

Yeah, I got their offer and they said it is based on cost of living.

I mean, it is a med col and you would make 6 figures TC with great benefits so I got no complain

[lone rapids]

Bruh slc has pretty high cost of living

What are the benefits?

[vestal pelican]

Lowkey if your company provides free food, transportation, gym, etc it's pretty easy to save a lot in bay area

[teal jackal]

i feel like we increasingly have the tendency to underestimate the COL in places like texas, slc and denver

[hollow condor]

Oh it is not exactly in SLC, their office is in Jordan

[marble bronze]

A quick search on apartments.com shows like a MCOL-ish

So like $1600-1800 for a 1bd?

[hollow condor]

You got this in your final?

[teal jackal]

i can dm u the problem

[azure zephyr]

denver is so dope

[night magnet]

Also interested

[night magnet]

Why lol

[night magnet]

He said in the OA

[teal jackal]

i already sent

[night magnet]

Oh myb

Thx

[azure zephyr]

its just so pretty lmao, like colorado is one of the prettiest states ive been

also there's a ton to do, the food is really good, if smoking is your thing then there's that too

basically if you're a fan of the outdoors i recommend denver (plus its a lot cleaner than most cities)

[teal jackal]

i like colorado too

[night magnet]

Is it better than Seattle/PNW for nature

[azure zephyr]

ive never rly explored seattle nature wise

[ivory stratus]

I would say Seattle/PNW is better but Colorado has way better slopes for skiing/snowboarding

Actually I would say they’re pretty similar for nature stuff

[calm shale]

Seattle really pretty too

[floral plank]

Does anyone have any good resources to prepare for Palantir system design round?

[chilly burrow]

https://github.com/donnemartin/system-design-primer

[floral plank]

Thanks

[vital meteor]

How do I prepare for roblox

[chilly burrow]

https://www.roblox.com/upgrades/robux

[vital meteor]

Is the 139.99 tier enough

[teal jackal]

got an 812 codesignal
finally defeated q4
q3 whooped my ass tho

my best yet

is 812 enough for most places

[delicate cloak]

has anyone interviewed with Apple? My pipeline might be unique and different from typical NG, but the recruiter was really vague about what the interview would entail

[chilly burrow]

Mayb?

I'd buy as much as possibl to b sure

[lament sail]

Ofc, but I disliked my exp at Amazon too

It won't

I can't tell you too much info but it won't

Nope US

It's the same as the US actually lol

Only differing is Denmark???/China/India

I forgot if Denmark or Poland offices

I can't say too much cause internal info, but Rippling is good for 5 years if they have 0 growth and ARR doesn't change

yep

Ya, Rippling's TAM is huge. A lot of new products with huge potential to 2-4x ARR every year. Pulling it off well is another question lol

Tbh I think it's too quick for some people

Some people are promoted to EM very early and some might not have all the skills you would expect from someone at that level due to lack of exp

This + a LOT of ownership could be good or bad for some people lol. Someone onboarded during the same time as my internship and they quit before my internship was over lol

[wheat seal]

amazon is a great company, last mile is great i heard

[lament sail]

U get the CEO bugging you a lot so visibility is high but also stressful asf

[wheat seal]

yes its a new amazon team

probably has the best culture

its in bellevue

[unborn orbit]

Hey! I'm getting really worried about the fact that I will not end up with a job (i'm also international). I was thinking I have a better chance of getting an internship for 2023 while trying for a new grad role. Is anyone trying to do this? do you think i can apply to the same company for new grad and intern with 2 different emails

[wheat seal]

nah its with delivery

helps business with final step before goods get delivered to customer

u got amazon?

us?

or canada

[static moth]

wait isnt rippling in a hiring freeze rn

[vital meteor]

How do you motivate yourself to grind while already having an offer

I've been trying but I'm so dead after work and want to chill weekends

[teal jackal]

offer good enough?

to be honest i wouldnt bother grind if youre at a satisfactory point in your new grad process

[vital meteor]

Zon + waiting G tm but I have roblox OA

[teal jackal]

tbh if youve made it decently far with google

you probably dont need to grind extra hard for roblox oa

[vital meteor]

Roblox 260ish TC 1st year so good though

[teal jackal]

i wouldnt put in extra effort to grind

just do your OAs and go to your interviews

[vital meteor]

Just yolo it?

[teal jackal]

hm

idk how to help u

im hyper motivated but even then i have a hard time concentrating

hyper motivated since no job

[vital meteor]

Yea its def tough to push through

It will be worth it though

[teal jackal]

For where

[static moth]

ahh

[teal jackal]

Canada tax rate is high

Where is rippling office

[static moth]

well most of that is paper tho

[teal jackal]

What city is rippling in

Anywhere in NA

I see

USA or Canada

They don't care?

Wow that's sick

Tbh USA better if u can get a visa in

[whole berry]

you gotta put your address down somewhere that has like sub 10% tax

and just live there on paper

thats atrocious

you pay taxes for absolutely nothing of value gained by those taxes

[teal jackal]

Yeah live somewhere on paper

[whole berry]

everything publicly funded is garbage

[teal jackal]

Have a paper address and in practice live somewhere else

[whole berry]

this

150k in taxes for some profiting companies to get bailout funds

ffs

im livid on behalf of you

[teal jackal]

Honestly economic recovery always goes towards businesses first, not people

Businesses hold all the cards and leverage

Politically

No bailouts for the people

[whole berry]

shouldnt be like that at all

yeah literally

[teal jackal]

Only cold hard "personal responsibility bro"

[last belfry]

Anyone do Expedia Oa?

[teal jackal]

Oh shit I still need to do that

[lament sail]

Gotta divide RSU by 4 lol. Rippling is only 190-215ish TC recurring at 9b valuation. Also RSU is double trigger so no tax, but time vested

Oops that in CAD. I forgot lol

U wont pay any taxes on the RSU since its double trigger

0 value until IPO

But I believe you keep it after it time vests for the first trigger. Not sure how long u have for the grant to last. Maybe 7 years?

[teal jackal]

I heard some pre IPO companies have pretty nasty policies towards paper stocks

Like it is not yours at all

Until company IPOs

[lament sail]

yea for some if you leave its gone if before IPO

[whole berry]

and some quite literally fire you

before they IPO

heard horror stories with that

[lament sail]

powerful handcuff

[marble bronze]

Unless they're 0% until vest, that isn't a massive deal IMO

You keep any vested shares even if they aren't public, right?

I could be wrong about that

[lament sail]

Depends on the company

[whole berry]

ya

but rule of thumb should always be that you sit with a lawyer and discuss the terms

pony up the hourly rate and go over the questions you have

this is only for companies that are pre IPO

[teal jackal]

paper stocks are a golden handcuff

talk here long enough and youll know

^

[floral plank]

Bloomberg phone is video right?

[lament sail]

most people just wanna get rich and pre-ipo is one of the ways to do it lol

nah

[teal jackal]

yeah if youre at the right company

and youre there long enough to see it ipo

you get rich so quick

[lament sail]

or acquired. Figma moment xd

[austere grove]

Lmao

[uncut umbra]

yep

[west egret]

Yeah zoom with camera

[austere grove]

People should talk about their post tax TC instead

[west egret]

1 - 2 questions depending on interviewer

[austere grove]

Sounds a lot less impressive to compare 120k and 200k than 180k and 400k

[west egret]

People like to avoid mentioning how much money they lose to taxes and rent in HCOL cities

[teal jackal]

tbh i associate HCOL TC with better prestige

[wheat seal]

whys that matter

[austere grove]

We’re human beings

That’s why

[teal jackal]

it matters to some people

doesnt matter to other people

[austere grove]

It matters to eveyrone

People just lie to make themselves feel better

[wheat seal]

i mean working from the same company

but lcol

i wouldnt really care tbh

[austere grove]

No one in the world is not gonna be more impressed by a Google employee than some random company they’ve never heard of

[wheat seal]

i wasnt talking about company

[teal jackal]

i think its purely a matter of preference

[wheat seal]

google is in lcol too

[teal jackal]

some people also like living in big cities

theres something about the big city lifestyle they just prefer

[wheat seal]

id rather have remote

[austere grove]

I thought he meant the better companies are hcol

[teal jackal]

this too, usually

ive been location agnostic for my job search

[austere grove]

Hcol is just a more fun area

[teal jackal]

ill go wherever hires me

[austere grove]

Lcol places are boring with less to do

[wheat seal]

austin texas is nice though

seattle is okay

[teal jackal]

i think HCOL areas tend to have a higher proportion of prestigious jobs, and HCOL areas are more "fun"

[austere grove]

Yeah but it’s not lcol exactly

[teal jackal]

seattle sucks

[austere grove]

Seattle is shit

[teal jackal]

i lived there

it was dookie

[wheat seal]

yea im there now lol

[austere grove]

I don’t know a single person who likes it there

[wheat seal]

seattle is okay, not amazing

[teal jackal]

yeah taht sums it up

i come from boston so i feel like seattle just SUCKS compared to how great boston is

[wheat seal]

nyc is amazing

but offices are really small

[waxen bolt]

I'm from nyc. Seattle is a complete joke of a city

So boring

[wheat seal]

what do u do in nyc that makes it different from seattle

or more exciting

[teal jackal]

i am not a very social person

[wheat seal]

i just like nyc more because its more diverse

[teal jackal]

so i dont make good use of cities

[wheat seal]

and nyc is just better overall for meetign ppl

[wheat seal]

seattle doesnt even have a mall

[teal jackal]

yeah i feel like nyc is the iconic city

id be lucky to live there someday

[wheat seal]

yea

bay area is really bad too

[fossil jewel]

nyc got best food

[teal jackal]

does nyc have a lot of egirls

i realized that my preferred type for dating is egirls

[wheat seal]

probably its hella diverse

[waxen bolt]

I think you hit it on the head with the diversity. I'm a fairly social person and I love to go out and try different things. New York has everything. Every artist will stop by, you have like 8 major sports teams, cool museums/popups, cool theatre, and then some of the best clubbing and bar scene in America

[wheat seal]

yea and street performers

its just nice

[waxen bolt]

Seattle also just feels slow. I don't get the vibe that anyone is hustling

Like it doesn't have passion or energy in it

[wheat seal]

everyone is inside coding lol

or walking their dog

thats the vibe i get from slu at least

[waxen bolt]

Haha yeah slu is interesting

[wheat seal]

if i move to nyc one day im going to astoria

i feel like when you are more experienced its easier to get into nyc

i mean you have lots of great companies there palantir, mongodb, spotify, etc

disney streaming

[waxen bolt]

A lot of dope food and culture in Astoria

[wheat seal]

yea also rent isn't insanely high

dream for me would be working at mongodb

living in astoria

[teal jackal]

SLU is mad boring

literally stock art for a city but irl

[wheat seal]

Yea u pretty much walk to walk to belltown/downtown/cap hill to do anything

Exciting

It’s a good place to be around everything though

[urban wyvern]

ayo

anyone done blackrock

the wording implies theres no time limit for the first round assessment

but im sus of that and i dont wanna open it at 1am and find out i gotta finish it by 1:30

[heady pilot]

why this year become so difficult

[rapid dawn]

Anyone applied Deutsche Bank?

I received this. Not sure if I need to finish

[vital meteor]

smh fast food competition increasing now

[dusty halo]

Even I received it. Seems like everyone would have got it. It wouldn't hurt to finish it.

[cold matrix]

Have an offer call with Bloomberg tomorrow. Should I negotiate during the call or should I wait and email the HR a couple days after the offer?

[hasty birch]

Lol I would personally not touch DB or Credit Suisse now that they might go under

[hasty birch]

No time limit, just 5 days from when you applied

[rapid dawn]

haha I'm thinking if this would not affect application result then I'll just ignore it

[hasty birch]

Wait, negotiate over email once you get the full offer details

[prime palm]

Credit sussy?!

sussy?!

[cold matrix]

Gotcha, any specific reason why?

[hasty birch]

More time to think and review what you want to say. Very easy to slip up when you're speaking live.

For BB specifically I'm pretty they only negotiate if you have another offer. You can get them to raise their offer w/o actually showing them the offer letter tho

[chilly burrow]

Tbh I always take these posts with a grain of salt

Also it's only October

Plenty of small companies still haven't opened

Also they said they applied to only about 100 applications with no prior exp and only 2 projects on your resume

My first internship took me like 400apps

[calm shale]

how to yall come up with 10+ stories for amazon LP

i have like 5 and i feel like i cant possibly squeeze any more out of me

[chilly burrow]

Just think of a few that are extendable to multiple

For example you could make a story that combines customer obsession, ownership, and the fact that leaders are right

Ex. "I was working with 3 others on a project. We were doing it one way, but I was sure that the way we were proceeding would not be ideal for the customer. However, my team wasn't listening to me. So during the next team meeting with the customer I showed the customer my proposal and they loved it."

^ this story works for multiple lps

You just emphasize the parts that work best for the lp thr question focuses on

[tulip mountain]

i got rejected quickly by boeing but i think it's because they had a question on their app "will you graduate by may 2022"

the position was posted like 3 days ago so im pretty sure that was a typo

either way i answered it for what it was and i assume it was indeed a typo because of the seemingly-automatic rejection

they thought i wasn't gonna graduate by may '23, despite the fact that i am

[calm shale]

i saw someone say the interviewers go back and discuss your stories. so if you use the same one, thats gonna look bad

dont know how true is that

[ivory stratus]

That’s so dumb lol

[ivory stratus]

Like you come up with. 24 stories for each LP and get back to me lol

[low scroll]

what gca score do I need for samsara

[teal jackal]

Tbh this guy needs to gun every app humanly possible

[dense cloud]

not having any internship exp as a new grad is super tough in this job market

[teal jackal]

i think this person is already being smart

delaying grad to do one

[dense cloud]

yeah

tbh i dont think hackathons are that useful though

[teal jackal]

i think hackathons are useful for creating projects of substance

they motivate u to make projects

but the success of a hackathon is REALLY dependent on team quality

[dense blaze]

?avatar @teal jackal

[earnest warren]

Avatar for slikk#9035

Link as

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[teal jackal]

a lot of hackathons end up being duds

because team has no idea what its doing

team cant pull itself together to come up with a strong idea

[twilit wasp]

do you guys still dress up smart ish for karat interviews? lowkey tempted to just go in with a hoodie

[teal jackal]

i just wore a hackathon shirt

[winter loom]

has anyone gotten a bloomberg decision expedited with another offer

[vestal pelican]

Also they make a great topic for behavioral questions about collaboration or something

[surreal shuttle]

Did anyone write TikTok OA?

How was it?

[sour night]

I’m currently on track doing this rn I just messaged my recruiter my deadline and he said he’ll get back to asap

[indigo raft]

Is karat tagged or rng?

[obtuse night]

Did anyone apply for Uber and got the pause hiring email after on-site?

[winter loom]

When was your final?

[sour night]

thurs

[winter loom]

Gotchu did mine Wednesday hopefully we hear back soon

[lone rapids]

How hard is draft kings oa

[serene gorge]

Does / will Airbnb offer new grad roles?

[modern socket]

palantir is potentially offering to just move me straight to the hm round 🙏

[teal jackal]

from where

[deep glen]

Is microsoft giving OA’s still?

[vestal pelican]

Amazon sent me an email reminding I am still in consideration

Do you usually receive the OA after this email

[late kestrel]

lol same. probably not. just a "we may still need you to feed the machine, dont forget us" kinda thing

[formal fable]

Were they ever?

[formal fable]

Was this after waitlisting?

[deep glen]

ya wondering this actually..

[vestal pelican]

No clue I applied to Amazon in August or something and completely forgot about them

[vestal pelican]

I swear Amazon only gets back to me when I'm done with the season. Way too slow

[formal fable]

You would know if you gave a final interview and subsequently received a waitlist email. I suppose you're not.

[vestal pelican]

I haven't got the OA yet

[late kestrel]

oh well, nothing we can do ab it

just a long work styles assessment

[timber rock]

It's like 40 "rank the responses" questions

[modern socket]

from applying

they're just gonna move me straight to onsite or final

no OA or phone screens

[small mountain]

have you heard anything back?

[timber rock]

Nope

Workday still says in progress

[modern socket]

deadlines + previous renege there

[weak latch]

MSFT never giving oas

[hasty birch]

You don't need MSFT you've got citadel

[nocturne oriole]

@modern socket

Look bah a new emote

[river harbor]

My friend got reject from bb even after solving all questions in vo, not sure what they wanted

[nocturne oriole]

Bb is lowkey tough ur friend coulda done everything right

But they want near perfect

I have never felt so carefully studied than bb

[tardy sable]

Woke up super early for my bb interview coz i'm in the western timezone, interviewer didn't show up

[floral plank]

Have mines later on today

[river harbor]

What exactly are they looking, even after solving everything they reject

Maybe the language my friend used for solving questions could be an issue

Because 1st interviewer asked question why python

[river harbor]

And he seemed really dis interested in the overall interview hardly giving any feedback

[modern socket]

wool

[late kestrel]

imo they value communication higher over actually solving the question

[modern socket]

i guess i’m just a cool guy or something

[late kestrel]

but yeah its also just luck on who your interviewer is

[modern socket]

good value for a renege

[modern socket]

that was a good thing imo

like it felt easy and i felt like they cared what i said

[calm shale]

How do you answer tell me about a time you failed, when i've never failed at anything

[late kestrel]

never ever ever?!

[lament summit]

tell them u never failed

[last belfry]

How long does bloomberg take to reply after phone?

[calm shale]

1 business day for me

[last belfry]

Ok cool

[teal jackal]

I always feel like this is a trick question

I feel like the correct answer is temporary failure => eventual rebound towards success

[calm shale]

never know what to say

also like when couldnt u deliver something

what if i always deliver huh

[signal ore]

Has anyone here taken a Privacy Software Engineer interview?

[teal jackal]

I feel like this is a trick question too

Too much social engineering needed to find an acceptable answer

Honestly this is why I hate behavioral

[twilit wasp]

my 2 questions for palantir were not graphs hahah

[calm shale]

frfr

anyway

zon final in 10 mins

in the chat

[lament summit]

[late kestrel]

[knotty ivy]

Has anyone taken scale ai's technical phone?

[sonic coral]

It really isn’t tho, shit happens, nobody is perfect and they just want to see how you handle failure

[teal jackal]

but you have to moderate it

moderate the scope of failure

i feel like companies will still judge it

ionno

i dont trust it

[sonic coral]

Well yeah that’s the point they wanna see how you handle failure, if you don’t handle failure well on the job that’s def not good for your perf ratings either

I personally think it’s a fair question

[teal jackal]

i think its a trick question

how am i supposed to know when its okay to fail and make mistakes

and when it goes too far

i am biologically incapable of reading social cues

unironically

[sonic coral]

Failing to deliver and doing damage control isn’t anything to do with social cues

It has to do with taking up responsibility and coming up with an action plan for what to do now

[fresh lagoon]

I feel they are more interested in ur response than ur mistake

[teal jackal]

i think the trick question about the "tell me about failure" problem is more like
temporary failure with rebound

[sonic coral]

You ever heard the phrase “it’s spilled milk”

[teal jackal]

but they don't state that they want to hear more about the rebound

[sonic coral]

Oh if you’re talking about the question “tell me about a time you failed” those are definitely more difficult

Where you have to come up with a specific example from your life

I meant more of the hypothetical ones where they setup a scenario for you

[teal jackal]

for problems like "tell me when you failed to deliver" and "tell me about a failure"

i feel like those are more about asking for a rebound story

they dont say they only care about the rebound story

[sonic coral]

Well yeah the idea is you focus on how you moved on after the failure

[teal jackal]

no tbh this is why i hate society

they cant just be upfront about shit

its all social engineering bullshit

[sonic coral]

I don’t think you understand what social engineering is

In my opinion “tell me about a time you failed” isn’t exactly an easy question, it does require some prep beforehand unless you’re reallly good at figuring out examples on the spot (most aren’t) but it is a fair one

It’s a reasonable question to ask

Because how someone handles failure on the job itself is important

[teal jackal]

yeah i get it

[sonic coral]

Mistakes are what make us human, it’s how we move on after them that matters

[teal jackal]

i just think behaviorals are frustrating, the questions seem so hand wavey and they seem like a test of if you got the right cues from the questions and know what to loo kfor

[sonic coral]

Really the most important things to remember for that question are what steps did you take to try to prevent that problem in the future and what did you learn from the experience

[teal jackal]

fortunately, behaviorals are generally really linear

and i can memorize answers to questions