2023_grads

[marsh sand]

I lost hope on Meta

[snow blade]

Guys are CodeSignal practice tests usually easier or harder than the real thing? I just took a practice test and now I'm scared lol

[marsh sand]

I think they’re about the same

Codesignal is actually so rng tho

[snow blade]

I keep getting like anywhere between 710 and 730 rip

[marsh sand]

I got bit manipulation and got rekt last year

Whats it out of again? 850?

[snow blade]

I think so yea

I usually get 1, 2, and part of 4 right with not enough time to finish 3

[high ermine]

did anyone give bytedance OA?

[teal jackal]

I still have it Sunday

[normal palm]

Does time matter?

[snow blade]

Yea you're scored on speed as well and theres 70 minutes for the 4 questions

[normal palm]

Whats the highest u get if u take 70min to do all qs

[snow blade]

850 is the max, idk how they measure the time but you might not get a perfect score if you take the most time on the first easy question for example

[normal palm]

Ah ok i was hoping for a specific score, hb 1,2,4 if u take 70min

[snow blade]

I have no clue I've done that before and got like 740 on the practice

You can take a practice test every day that's what I've been doing

[normal palm]

Yup

[violet badger]

Where to apply? Who is hiring? Why do I have no interviews?

[teal jackal]

better to be slow trying to solve a problem and succeed

than skip it

i always open q3

[foggy perch]

better to focus on getting all of 4 rights

your score basically completely depends on getting 1 2 4 perfectly

then 3 is extra points

[normal palm]

q3 is quite often straight forward for me but a long solution, q4 can be a hit or miss

especially when optimizing

[foggy perch]

usually it's just throw a hash map at it

tbh

[normal palm]

yee

or a double pointer solution

[prime palm]

Bad bitches in the neighborhood

[normal palm]

hashmap doesn't always work cuz space complexity too

[foggy perch]

huh i've never run into a space complexity issue

only time

[normal palm]

ah interesting, i haven't either but i assumed it could be hit

[dusky lark]

Hey folks I have a noob question, If I am supposed to graduate in June/July 23 should I apply for summer positions

[trail siren]

Anyone here who recently had a cap one power day? I have a power day scheduled this Thursday

For TDP

[trail siren]

You can apply for full time positions too

[dusky lark]

I mean full time beginning summer or fall?

[trail siren]

All of the mostly start in summer. I think you can start in August for most of them

[dusky lark]

oh

Thanks a lot

I wanted to start in August

[trail siren]

Yeah I had a friend who started last August

[dusky lark]

So summer -> August works right

[trail siren]

He started applying for full time positions last year same time

Yeah

[dusky lark]

Oh awesome thanks a lot superman

[trail siren]

No problem

Happy to help man!

[lament summit]

depends on the company, some companies u need to have a later grad date to apply to summer others dont care

[dusky lark]

later grad date as in

[lament summit]

like when u say summer position u mean internship?

or ft

[dusky lark]

FT

[trail siren]

That's for summer intern right?

[lament summit]

ah then its fine

[dusky lark]

cools

[west egret]

My BB recruiter sent confirmation for VO.

If anyone else was getting ghosted, they were probably backed up and trying to figure out scheduling.

[lime galleon]

What do you mean back up?

[azure zephyr]

LC

[exotic lintel]

change the HTML

and u can show them Offer Email

lol

[winter loom]

did they send something today over the weekend?

[west egret]

Prob that they had a lot of applicants to coordinate along with their interviewers.

[winter loom]

what have people been able to negotiate bloom upto?

[west egret]

Yeah

[winter loom]

damn

[west egret]

Depends on your recruiter though

[winter loom]

working on a saturday and still no update from my final lol

[west egret]

VO or EM?

[winter loom]

em

[west egret]

How long ago?

[winter loom]

wednesday

[west egret]

I mean that’s not a long time tbh

Just chill and wait for next week

I didn’t get confirmation for basically a full 2 weeks.

Just ask I guess. Most people here are just CS student that will give you speculative answers.

[autumn ridge]

They have an expedited process so it's possible. I got moved into the expidited process and they skipped my phone and scheduled my two VO immediately that week. I got moved into the expidited process though bc they no showed two phone interviews in a row not bc of competing offer lol

[west egret]

Yeah at that point they should give you a bye into VO lol

[azure zephyr]

does bb ghosting so much reflect on them as a company at all? i know theyre backed up but theyre still disrespecting candidates time bc of poor planning...

[west egret]

Tbf, I think they just became the new place to bandwagon after c1 and amazon filled up

[autumn ridge]

Yeah rather be lucky then good lol

[west egret]

People keep telling me to study tagged but I’m low key scared they’ll ask me some LC hard I neglected to look at

[frank wedge]

Every company ghosts

[autumn ridge]

Not for me personally. Like the recruiting process isn't even ran by engineering it's an HR issue. It's possible it could be a slight insight into overall poor management but that doesn't seem like the case at BB from what I've read

[west egret]

Yeah BB not replying to me for 2 weeks is pretty tame

[azure zephyr]

true, but to the extent bb has been ghosting tho?

[west egret]

Look at Walmart last season

[azure zephyr]

like with so many ppl

[west egret]

I swear they ghosted us for like 2 months

[obsidian flame]

Anyone received doordash VO? May be we can discuss it

[west egret]

I mean define so many people

[trail siren]

Anyone had Cap One Power day recently?

[azure zephyr]

i have no idea how the recruiting season was for internships last year (overall) bc i wasn't in this server hahaha, didn't know walmart was difficult

[azure zephyr]

ive just seen it a lot here

[west egret]

Shit happens and IMO a 2 week ghost isn’t that bad. Unless you already explicitly told them you have deadlines.

[jaunty basalt]

i think its cuz ppl barely get interviews so theyre expecting a lot from what they can get

which i get

u want to pass

and focus on other things

[west egret]

Yeah but this server is exactly the type of place where people come to complain right away.

[azure zephyr]

i didn't apply to that many top tech places until this season, i didn't realize how frequent companies ghosting is

[jaunty basalt]

if u had mroe interviews you wouldnt be thinking about this

cuz amazon ghosted me for three months

[west egret]

Ppl aren’t going to come here to randomly leave comments like my interview process is going smoothly 😃

[jaunty basalt]

i didnt complain

[jaunty basalt]

[azure zephyr]

i also don't think its wrong to be frustrated about being ghosted tho

[jaunty basalt]

exactly

but if u had more interviews it wouldnt be the same

so i get it

but does it reflect the company?

of course not

[azure zephyr]

idk i have/had a good amount of interviews and it would frustrate me to be ghosted

[jaunty basalt]

how many

15+?

[foggy perch]

you mean post interview?

or ghosting resume

[azure zephyr]

just bc you take time out of your day, when you have a super busy schedule its hard to not feel annoyed when somebody wastes your time essentially

[jaunty basalt]

if u had like 15 in a span of two weeks ur gonna be busy

[azure zephyr]

ok 15 in the span of two weeks is 💀

[jaunty basalt]

well thats what i had in november last year

[west egret]

BB is my only lead right now lol

C1 isn’t for another 1.5 months

[jaunty basalt]

so i ignored how walmart and amazon and a whole bunch of other places ignored me

i eventually got the offers

[azure zephyr]

this is about companies who ghost you during a scheduled time

[jaunty basalt]

yeah

ik

imagine u filled out the survey to get a time and the times expire

[azure zephyr]

im sorry but with my schedule im not going to say "oh its okay that they ghosted me theyre busy and backed up!!"

[jaunty basalt]

or they say theyll get back to you in a week

right its fine to be frustrated

but saying it reflects the company is kinda not it

[autumn ridge]

anyone down for some binarysearch?

[west egret]

Basically

Shit happens and every company is going to run into situations they weren’t fully prepared for

[jaunty basalt]

some companies that were fast af for me are super slow now based on what i see

[floral plank]

Have my bloomberg phone on Monday

[west egret]

Prepping LC in summer and applying early seems like the move

[floral plank]

I am worried that I am gonna get ghosted lol

[azure zephyr]

if a company ghosted a scheduled time for be two times in a row, its going to put a bad taste in my mouth. not saying it'll make me withdraw my application and hate the company, but a company's interview process reflects on them

[jaunty basalt]

for sure

some ppl slipped in fast af

[foggy perch]

don't you have potential for a WD return too

or are those not happening

[foggy perch]

same

[west egret]

Hearing back about it in October

[azure zephyr]

rn?

[west egret]

But I still have 110 apps in

[foggy perch]

bb was fast af for me since I applieds uper early season

now they be doing the ghosting stuff

[jaunty basalt]

yeah their HR

thats fair

[foggy perch]

agred

[dense cloud]

yeah should have lc in the summer but was busy grinding internship for a return offer that never came

[jaunty basalt]

yeah i brought this up

[winter loom]

is expedia process OA => final?

[jaunty basalt]

to some ppl

the worst ive had it was with jpmc

[autumn ridge]

yee

[jaunty basalt]

two month gaps between any real action items

[west egret]

Ehh it happens. I had 1 week post internship to focus solely on LC and I just chilled instead.

[jaunty basalt]

intel too

but i can excuse intel cuz it was team specific

jpmc was all hr

[dense cloud]

yeah im just completely neglecting my school work atm to lc

[jaunty basalt]

for intel, mans had a kid

[west egret]

JPMC still ghosting me lol but I’m used to it

I think I had all TCs too

[dusky plover]

jpmc ghosted me after oa

so i used another email to apply

[azure zephyr]

sweet ill dm u

[dusky plover]

and they sent me another oa

[jaunty basalt]

you shoudlve waited

[west egret]

Imagine if they respond to app 2 before 1

[jaunty basalt]

i did the oa in september

heard back in november

offer in january

[west egret]

I did Walmart final last year

[jaunty basalt]

or not january

but like winter break

[west egret]

They didn’t reject me until 4 months later

[azure zephyr]

are you at jpmc rn? @jaunty basalt

[jaunty basalt]

two offers in parallel

[jaunty basalt]

no

[azure zephyr]

bb?

[jaunty basalt]

yes

[azure zephyr]

ohhhhhh

that makes a lot of sense now lmao

have you used the bb terminal

[jaunty basalt]

why

[jaunty basalt]

you kind of have to

[west egret]

Probably meant that you might be biased in favor of BB lol

[jaunty basalt]

oh i guess

[azure zephyr]

you probably thought i was trying to drag your company 😭

[jaunty basalt]

everyone does

[dusky plover]

lol

i thought they just silent rejected

jpmc weird

same with goldman

and vmware

[west egret]

But I think you can’t judge a company solely through a few interactions. Your recruiter, interviewers and even team post offer are all RNG.

[jaunty basalt]

when i bring up the fact that i got into apple, atlassian, amazon, microsoft etc

everyone is always tryna drag

[azure zephyr]

its not that im just rly weird about my time, comes from frustration more than anything

[jaunty basalt]

id like to see them get into the same places

[azure zephyr]

ah man i wanted atlassian so bad

i like their product

[dusky plover]

@jaunty basalt slide me into apple

[jaunty basalt]

but yeah ive brought this whole ghosting thing up to HR

[west egret]

Any reason you took BB over MSFT? I imagine pay and wlb isn’t too different.

Location with BB would be a plus I guess.

[dusky plover]

MSFT is a boomer company lol

their stack is boring too

[jaunty basalt]

bro what are you saying

[azure zephyr]

msft cancelled my final

[dusky plover]

C#

who wants to work in C#

[jaunty basalt]

bro typescript??????

[dusky plover]

what

[dusky plover]

deadass???!

[jaunty basalt]

omfg

[dusky plover]

everyone iv talked to only worked in c#

[jaunty basalt]

bro ur grounded

[dusky plover]

wtf

[graceful nest]

i got my bloomby em comin up anyone know what kinda stuff they ask

[jaunty basalt]

why

they only freeze organizations

and i heard it was hardware products

so like xbox

and older things like office

[dusky plover]

msft is so weird on who they send oas

its nto even funny

[west egret]

Hmm never knew typescript was from MSFT

[jaunty basalt]

pay for both is great, i just wanted to stay in nyc and a lot of ppl from my school come here

like EMs here are from my school

[dusky plover]

transfer offices to sf

ill be here

[jaunty basalt]

c++ as well

u get to choose ur team

[west egret]

Understandable

[jaunty basalt]

some training too

[lyric light]

Did anyone give an Arm interview recently?

[jaunty basalt]

like if ur a benefits hunter, then go MSFT

cuz they have HSA, mega backdoor, better 401k, more money for fitness

and other random benefits

but we also have other random benefits

[jaunty basalt]

ur grounded though

has the third highest market cap and ur stuck on the boomer part

actually second cuz we only do USA

yes but c++ teams willing to take you, thatll vary

just headcount mostly

teams naturally have preferences but thats for senior hires

in all offices yes

but some offices have better food than others

the food in nyc is ok

[graceful nest]

wat office got da best food

[jaunty basalt]

i havent been to all of them

but im guessing its probably princeton

dubai looks fire too

[graceful nest]

i see

[night magnet]

LinkedIn

Hands down

[hearty perch]

rly

[marsh sand]

How is BB in terms of interview difficulty

Do i have to do sys design?

[hearty perch]

??

[thorn walrus]

dont you have optiver and imc

[rustic vessel]

Thoughts on startup vs big tech? Leaning towards startup rn

[thorn walrus]

which big tech and which start up

[rustic vessel]

Verkada v apple theoretical

[hearty perch]

lol

thats what happens when you tamp down inflation old boy

tech stocks are down

-> less money and need to be more lean

[bronze nymph]

imo apple hands down esp in this climate

[marsh sand]

Smh shudve gone to google

[rustic vessel]

Where’s my apple hc

[smoky lodge]

Working in tech post dot com bubble Tech from like late 1999 - 2009 completely sucked. We’re entering a similar period atm it seems

[wicked pendant]

sucks rn since companies had to recalibrate right at the start of ng season but im sure months wait times/delays wont be normal going forward

[vital meteor]

there was a freeze though

[lament summit]

bigtech now startup in the future

[vital meteor]

it was just lifted recently

[smoky lodge]

working for a startup seems incredibly stupid right now

[hearty perch]

why

[nocturne oriole]

probably won't

[vital meteor]

im still waiting

i did onsite june

passed hc july

yea but doing G + Zon same time shows you the huge gap in their process

i got zon offer after like 1 week

[nocturne oriole]

This is kind of wishful and hopium but it's good to be hopeful lol

[vital meteor]

yea they were like the only ones hiring

[exotic lintel]

what questions did u get for G and Zon ?

dang

[ivory stratus]

well mostly zon. granted they hire because they can't hire fast enough

so like. you end up with people cheating on their OAs and then at least last year getting the 1x30 interview

just to explain a solution they don't write/don't understand

[exotic lintel]

Random number generation ?

[ivory stratus]

oh for sure

[vital meteor]

roblox is still hiring iirc

[exotic lintel]

PIP

[ivory stratus]

but it still bites them in the butt because people just use zon as a stepping stone and use it to grind leetcode for a year before they know they are gonna get piped

pipped*

wait seriously?

so then the real move would be to just quit before your year mark

[jaunty basalt]

They’re pretty big, they have to have some unregretted attrition somehow

[ivory stratus]

i mean. it's honestly kind of a win win though

just imagine

[nocturne oriole]

Cuz it's one thing to say "I'm a goated swe and I will find a job"
But you are saying you are extra goated cuz u will get a GOOD job

at a good company

[ivory stratus]

you just get finished ramping up

[nocturne oriole]

this market is shit

[jaunty basalt]

No cuz not only is it like what banana said but there is unregretted attrition

[vital meteor]

pre sure you can get in again after time period its not some permanent thing

[ivory stratus]

then you just get pipped

[vital meteor]

like 1 year after you get pipped you can apply again

[ivory stratus]

yeah but what's the likely hood that you get hired again after being pipped that soon

daaaaaaaang

[nocturne oriole]

I think the safest speculation is the economy for tech is "stabilizing." if you know how tech has boomed then you realize stocks exploded so it's just going back to "normal"

[ivory stratus]

so yeah basically unless your uncle is a VP or something youre screwed

[jaunty basalt]

What? Is that reply to me? That’s not what unregretted attrition is about

[ivory stratus]

what nah

i was saying imagine getting ramped up and then getting pipped right after

[vital meteor]

getting remote for L4 requires L10 VP approval but it happens

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah I see. But Like U can get just flagged for being cheeks

[ivory stratus]

making me weary about taking zon oa lol

[jaunty basalt]

And that’s not even pip u just left quick

But ur still cheeks

[jaunty basalt]

Bro take what you can get

[ivory stratus]

no iknow youre just making me weary about wanting to work there lol

[ivory stratus]

yeah that's what im doing. currently have final for msft and nsa and oa for zon

[jaunty basalt]

NSA

[ivory stratus]

yeah but

[ivory stratus]

security clearance and then hopping over to FAANG

[ivory stratus]

big $$$

[jaunty basalt]

[vital meteor]

saving this post for after i rejoin after getting pipped

[outer radish]

but i swear everyone just fails pip

[ivory stratus]

i mean that's literally what it's for

[ivory stratus]

so they don't have to keep paying you stock options

[outer radish]

yeah but there was this blind post that essentially said they fuck new grads that join certain teams

[ivory stratus]

imagine if most new grads/new hires got their full stock options

[jaunty basalt]

Just pass msft, thinking about all this hopping is pretty tiring

[outer radish]

cause everyone on the team is already experienced and buddy buddy but they have quotas or some shit they gotta meet

[ivory stratus]

lol im worried about the final being hard

[jaunty basalt]

It’s a shaky plan usually

[vital meteor]

its focus -> pivot (pip) if you fail to get out of focus and put in pivot your already fucked

[jaunty basalt]

Bro don’t worry it’s not hard

[ivory stratus]

im taking what ill get but just worried about microsoft being a tough interview

[jaunty basalt]

Just pay attention to who ur interviewers are to see what product ur on

[azure zephyr]

is interviewing with vanta rn a mistake?

should i be worried?

[ivory stratus]

im like. 30 questions through blind 75, should finish it by next weekend then doing tagged

[jaunty basalt]

Tagged didn’t do shit for me

Just do the popular lists

[ivory stratus]

im just nervous bro

[jaunty basalt]

And if you really have time go for the tagged cuz u have time

[ivory stratus]

yeeee

[azure zephyr]

ik you got this bro

[ivory stratus]

like if i get array and list questions, walk in the park

[outer radish]

do you guys redo questions that you had to check neetcode solutions for?

[jolly raptor]

Is msft sending interviews?

[ivory stratus]

i've seen like. 5 people tops get finals for msft

[jaunty basalt]

I hear some are pretty wild

[azure zephyr]

i didn't realize neetcode was applying to jobs the entire time he was making videos

what a legend

[jaunty basalt]

Like my Apple one picked language on my resume to use

I can’t use use python

[jolly raptor]

any1 gave intuit Oa recently?

[jaunty basalt]

Dw I passed

[ivory stratus]

sounds like apple ngl

[jaunty basalt]

But like that stuff can break you

[azure zephyr]

this was true for zon but thats it

[old vector]

has anyone had any linkedlist problems in an interview this season?

[dusky plover]

They sent u na oa?

[azure zephyr]

oh i havent done rippling oa yet

[wintry sedge]

yo whats the karat meta? i have my interview in a few days, so i’m not sure what the move is with retakes and stuff

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah exactly, the thing is though it’s a broad list so it helps in the long run for sure

[ivory stratus]

my msft OA was straight off of some popular leetcode questions

not blind 75 though

[old vector]

thank god rippling is scheduling interviews at the end of this month

[small sinew]

wait how the hell did you get microsoft lol

[old vector]

more time to prep

[small sinew]

thought they're barely hiring new grad rn

[azure zephyr]

i got msft

[small sinew]

when yall apply?

i couldnt even find ng posting

[ivory stratus]

they are lol. i know a lot of people getting return offers

[azure zephyr]

but then they cancelled it but it was luck of the draw, i applied aug 4th i think

[ivory stratus]

i applied right when it opened

[old vector]

im still going through neetcode 150 lol

[ivory stratus]

literally the day it opened

[jaunty basalt]

Why?

That’s toxic

[small sinew]

yeah i heard about returns but not regular

[wintry sedge]

anyone take a karat interview and got tips?

[small sinew]

well congrats bro

hope the final goes well

[old vector]

karat is rng

[dusky plover]

I got this email from rippling

[azure zephyr]

they sent me an email and said they didn't expect so many of their interns to accept return offers, headcount is fucked up etc etc

[dusky plover]

Does this mean I pretty much get final

Pog

[ivory stratus]

thanks fam. tryinig my hardest lol

[ivory stratus]

rippling?

[jaunty basalt]

Bruh, don’t they decide this stuff after it’s over?

[young peak]

Ayo can I just say guys it's so good on the other side. Job security is such a blessing and being in a good company that cares is such a privilege. Hope all of y'all can join soon

[old vector]

where are u at rn

[ivory stratus]

where are you at now?

[azure zephyr]

i agree its helped me so much! i really need help getting better at dynamic programming tho lol it wasn't rly taught in my DS&A class

[young peak]

Seattle homies

[ivory stratus]

what company?

[azure zephyr]

msft

[young peak]

I just spent yesterday exploring the city/hiking. Last time I had the luxury to do that was like 2 years ago lmfao

[young peak]

Google

[azure zephyr]

somebody else in here got the same email as well

[ivory stratus]

Seattle is the only not remote area im looking at since im from there and my gf is too

[azure zephyr]

wow is G working you that hard?

[young peak]

tf you mean?

[ivory stratus]

i heard G is pretty chill depending on team

[ivory stratus]

my friend works 30 hours tops

[young peak]

I meant like I grinded hard to join Google

I work barely 20 hrs ...

[ivory stratus]

my friend said same thing lol

[azure zephyr]

oh you said you had luxury of walking around city for first time in two years

thought it was bc of work

[ivory stratus]

i would if they had remote positions

or seattle positions

[young peak]

Yeah because I spent the past two years grinding LC, college, life being tough etc

[young peak]

They do my homie

@dusty basin is remote at zon

[ivory stratus]

for new grad?

[azure zephyr]

ohhhh i understand now. that's awesome that you get to relax now

[young peak]

and I'm half remote, but the team I talked to said I could just not come lmao

[young peak]

yeah

[ivory stratus]

fuuuuuuuh

[dusky plover]

Do it

[ivory stratus]

i mean id be happy with anything at this point

[dusky plover]

Dude google send me an oa

[young peak]

I've realized it's all I wanted man. Not having to worry to death over money, not having to grind period and just being able to actually ENJOY the job I wanted

[young peak]

we're on a hiring freeze rn

[dusky plover]

I'm a diversity hire

[young peak]

Jan/Feb is when we might have more headcount

[young peak]

we got plenty of those

[vital meteor]

hopefully thats me in few months

[azure zephyr]

ugh that sounds soooo nice. was it hard to get adjusted to having more money? like how did you handle that

or is it a situation where bc you and your wife are making good money that it's not even a problem straight up

[ivory stratus]

im considering delaying grad till next semester so hopefully lol

[frank wedge]

Is that one of those special pipelines?

[ivory stratus]

i mean yeah but also like. it's hard not to want more things when you make more lol

that's easy though

once you get into faang

esp if you move to google or somewhere else with good wlb

[young peak]

My spending actually went down after getting more money lmao. You got into the mindset "oh I could buy that whenever", instead of "if I don't buy/eat this Imma die or feel like shit"

[azure zephyr]

ive noticed that a lot of times making more money == more expensive lifestyle, so just adjusting to having self control with $$$ lmao

[vital meteor]

theres also team rng: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCEROZ2BiUY this guy went from zon -> g

[young peak]

delaying grad is expensive tho

[azure zephyr]

jake ur gonna get msft

no need to delay grad you got this

[young peak]

yeah just chill guys its literally Oct 1st

I got my first phone round late Sept

For Hubspot & Roblox iirc

[vital meteor]

this lmao, i thought i would go ham and buy everything i wanted but so far ive just been spending on ubereats/food

prob because i have no time to enjoy other things

[azure zephyr]

no buying fancy things?

[young peak]

Trying to max out 401k in 3 months man

but fr tho I'm just getting myself a tiny nest before I start splurging

[ivory stratus]

honestly the only thing i care about is a fun car lol. dont care about a super nice apartment or anything

[young peak]

i'm kinda the opposite

[ivory stratus]

dude this. 401k maxing is KEY to a NICE retirement

[young peak]

found an apt I really liked

[ivory stratus]

me and my gf are moving to a decent apartment. i just want to save and buy a house in around 10 years

[jaunty basalt]

nah bro mega backdoor is

[young peak]

but I kinda wanna just lease a tesla

[ivory stratus]

this too

[azure zephyr]

nah i dont care about cars i want to sell mine so bad lmao i was born to be a passenger not the driver

[vital meteor]

yea i dont rly have interest in cars

[warm jacinth]

im graduating dec 2023

when should i start applying to new grad

[vital meteor]

if i make a big purchase its prob gonna be a 4090 or something

[warm jacinth]

postings

[young peak]

This is easier than you think, since you'd normally get promos that put your pay up by 50k-100k each level

[ivory stratus]

i have a leaf right now cause i was spending so much money on gas that it made more sense to pay for a car than it did to pay for gas

[warm jacinth]

im applying to 2023 Intern rn

[young peak]

how you liking it?

[warm jacinth]

like june-july?

[ivory stratus]

fair. but in hawaii buying a nice like. 4 bedroom house is around $1.5mil

[azure zephyr]

okay but this is tempting too i read somebody on here leased a tesla with their internship money...

[young peak]

wtf why hawaii lmfao

[ivory stratus]

i love it. never pay for chargin and im spending around the same amount i was on gas with my gas guzzler

[azure zephyr]

omg i forget youre in fucking hawaii bro

[ivory stratus]

family is here and her family is on big island 50% of the time

[young peak]

Oh nice

Hawaii is expensive as shit

so come to Seattle my man

[ivory stratus]

yeah but we're both scuba instructors and i love surfing lol

[azure zephyr]

i want a nice apartment and a corgi lol

[ivory stratus]

i still love seattle and we visit her parents pretty often. we grew up there and we're going there over christmas

[young peak]

I mean you're gonna be a SWE, so I'd say just enjoy those things during your PTO/holidays

[ivory stratus]

hoping to hit up some slopes while we're there too

[azure zephyr]

have you ever dived in cozumel? so beautiful

[ivory stratus]

no i really want to though

[young peak]

my wife and I are heavily considering a poochon puppy

[ivory stratus]

if i land a good paying job, im going to tahoe with some friends then might go down to cozumel

i've been saving up for a graduation trip

[azure zephyr]

i had to google what a poochon is how did yall hear about them?

[vital meteor]

ive been watching so many of those yt videos of diving accidents

[young peak]

We had a friend that had one

[azure zephyr]

you should watch caving videos

[young peak]

Samoyed is also another great breed but they're expensive..

[ivory stratus]

it's usually people that are dumb and don't follow standards tbh

[vital meteor]

caving/diving/mountain climbing are the ones

[young peak]

poochons are smart af plus they're always small

[vital meteor]

alot of videos are like pros and experienced people dying

[young peak]

I have a tiny bit of trauma from being attacked by a guard dog when I was small

[azure zephyr]

"i could buy that whenever"

[young peak]

so I'm trying to not get a big dog as my first

[young peak]

4k minimum + upkeep makes it like 10k a year .-.

[ivory stratus]

i taught a guy the other day, we do this thing called discover scuba where we can take people down up to 40 feet without being certified and this guy got all the way down and on the way up, he panicked, spit out his regulator and starting shooting up super fast and i grabbed him, shoved his reg in his mouth and told him to stop and he tried doing it again and i did the same thing. finally he stopped but holy shit i was so scared lol

[young peak]

but yeah you right

I could technically buy it whenever

[azure zephyr]

?????????? whatttttt

[low scroll]

get a rottweiler

[jaunty basalt]

any breeds in mind?

[ivory stratus]

i have a medium sized aussie mix

[young peak]

Big? Samoyed. Small? Poochon

Nicest dogs I've ever seen

[azure zephyr]

get the poochon, so cute

[jaunty basalt]

samoyed is very pog

im not that into small dog

like smallest is shiba

[ivory stratus]

This was him as a puppy

[jaunty basalt]

the rest are just poms

[vital meteor]

yea the scary part of those videos was that even with how good these people are, 1 mistake or bad rng got them killed

[ivory stratus]

yup

[ivory stratus]

unfortunately it happens

[ivory stratus]

luckily i havent seen anything too scary. ive only been in like. 3 scary situations

[azure zephyr]

scuba diving is essentially glorified floating imo. im a terrible swimmer but i still passed certification

[ivory stratus]

you don't have to be a good swimmer at all lol

[ivory stratus]

as long as you can float and survive you're gucci

like obviously if you can't swim you probably should learn lol but you have a life jacket basically

[azure zephyr]

yep

during the swimming test i struggled so bad and the guy was like 😄 yep looks good

[ivory stratus]

i literally did back stroke for my swim test lol

[ivory stratus]

im an ok swimmer but not great. im just comfortable in the water

ive taken 6+ feet waves to the head surfing, held under for around 20 seconds and been like "well guess im breathing. that was fun"

[tardy geode]

got my first phone . LFGO

@azure zephyr gotta need your blessings 🐐

[azure zephyr]

homie i punked out of a palantir final bc i didnt feel like i was good enough LMAO

[dusty basin]

Sup

[dusky plover]

So glad I'm entering the swe industry at a young age, in a few years I can fulfill my dream of being a caveman and sniffing dirt off the ground

[weak latch]

huh

😭 damn

[azure zephyr]

i got so nervous 😭

im trying to do more mock interviews on pramp bc i get so freaked out by finals

[vital meteor]

🙏 it will pay off trust, i did 2-3 pramp everyday for 2 weeks and that really helped me get in the groove

[ivory stratus]

daaaaaaaang

[weak latch]

do you have an offer yet?

Even if you're really nervous, an interview is still great practice. If you continue to keep the mindset that you can't do an interview, and never do them, then it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even if it doesn't go well, it's good practice and experience

[old vector]

interviews are like cheating on hw w ur smart classmate

[azure zephyr]

yeah i have an offer from amazon

and yeah you're right, the palantir thing happened almost two weeks ago and ive been doing all my finals since then

[jaunty basalt]

honestly ur gonna have to go through it

just try to move ur interview days

as best as you can

[azure zephyr]

wdym by that?

[jaunty basalt]

the more you do the better youll feel

i mean ur saying u are anxious

mocks dont feel the same to me at least

[azure zephyr]

no i meant by move ur interview days

[jaunty basalt]

oh that

push it back

u made it far enough right

[azure zephyr]

ohh yeah gotcha

[jaunty basalt]

not too far back

[azure zephyr]

yeah after palantir two weeks ago i moved a lot of my interviews back, so im just now doing the interviews and i still get anxious but you're right that it gets better which each one i do

[jaunty basalt]

yeah like even if u fail it u still went through it

just dont burnout

[weak latch]

and worst case

[azure zephyr]

i just need to trust in myself more lmao even in my internship this summer for my final eval my manager was like youre doing a great job the only thing is that you need to be more confident in your ability

[jaunty basalt]

but there is an exception

[weak latch]

lob me some of those finals

[jaunty basalt]

dont get blacklisted

[weak latch]

😎

jk jk

[jaunty basalt]

sounds like a nice manager

or on the flip side it could be super generic and it applies to almost everyone

[azure zephyr]

nah he was a great manager i grew a lot bc of him

i prob wouldn't even be going for most of the roles i am if it wasn't for him believing in me lmaoo

tbh

[jaunty basalt]

[lament summit]

[azure zephyr]

already accepted, planning on reneging

[teal jackal]

LMAO
a company that resume rejected me
gave me an interview when i applied with my alt email

this resume screen shit really is rng
fuck this clown ass world lmaooooooooo

im trying more apps with my alt email

[thick shell]

Do you change the email on the resume too?

[teal jackal]

ofc

[thick shell]

Bet, imma try that

[teal jackal]

i have 3 versions of my resume now

1.) main resume
2.) alt email resume
3.) resume that emphasizes my game dev projects(for game studios)

[thick shell]

Is there a big difference in terms of content between the main resume and the alt resume?

[teal jackal]

no content diff at all

[thick shell]

Oh wow

Yeah resume screens are RNG then lol

[teal jackal]

honestly yeah, many companies that do university hiring get too many applicants anyways to keep track if you applied already or not

so id say reapplying once is worthwhile

[low scroll]

some guy was saying that gets your blacklisted

[teal jackal]

unless u pass the second time

that meant there never was one in the first place

[low scroll]

fuck it

i might as well apply with an alt email

[tardy geode]

App Link?

[vital meteor]

Zon merges accounts so unless you have 2 legal names it wouldnt work for that

[low scroll]

merges accounts?

[vital meteor]

They will merge that 2nd alt acc and link to your first acc

[low scroll]

how are they going to know

[vital meteor]

All the info is the same except the email

I applied using diff email before and it got merged to my other acc

[low scroll]

during internship cycle, I tried alt email with zon and got OA on one email and ghost on the other

didn't get merged

[grave wolf]

HRT told me to do GCA in cpp/python before next week, but I can't until 12 days later. I've done a GCA several days ago, CodeSignal tells me to wait. Any suggestion?

[low scroll]

make a new account, do the GCA, then link accounts

[grave wolf]

I tried to click the link with another CodeSignal account, and it said invalid

anyone successful in doing so before? I might try again

[low scroll]

https://app.codesignal.com/get-certified?invite=TGy6wcugpm4LMFEQX

this link?

[grave wolf]

Bloom Institute of Technology? is it the same?

I can access your link

[wicked pendant]

email codesignal support for reset and explain situation

[low scroll]

yeah thats GCA

[grave wolf]

ya I'll write a ticket to the support team and hopefully sb would be online during the weekend. before that I would just try your GCA link lol

thanks guys

[clever orbit]

Anyone have any info on HRT Algo engineer codesignal

3 q's 2h10mins

[sage current]

yeh its really easy

[clever orbit]

are u trolling me

[weak latch]

yes

it was insanely hard

[sage current]

nah

[weak latch]

3 LC hards

[clever orbit]

gg fucc dat

[sage current]

more like 3 lc easys lol

[weak latch]

3 LC hards

[clever orbit]

whose passing this shit idgi

?

[sage current]

everyone. if you not passing OA, I dont know what to tell you

[weak latch]

this dude just said if you dont get final at a literal quant

"idk what to tell you"

lol

[clever orbit]

hes trolling dawg

[weak latch]

i mean i was trolling too becuase i haven't taken it but

i really don't know fella

[sage current]

yeh lol jk, it was soo hard

[clever orbit]

what type of ds came up

[sage current]

why does no one post in the new grad salary sharing thread anymore

[ivory stratus]

i think it's broken but idk

[sage current]

oh lol

[thick shell]

Is account merging for CodeSignal actually patched? Can someone else confirm?

[teal jackal]

a friend got temporarily banned for it

backw hen merging was a thing

merging is probably dead now

[thick shell]

Fuck

Figured it was a matter of time

Guess the best way is to grind Practice Test’s then

[night magnet]

Did cap1 call to reject anyone? This cycle

[marble bronze]

What do you mean by TC sucks

[teal jackal]

its not that bad, its at the top of non-tech

c1 beats most local/smaller companies

theyre also hiring a ton

[sage current]

its 120k, right?

[teal jackal]

they take on a shit ton of interviews too

so thats why a lot of people talk about it

[marble bronze]

That's top 10% of median household income in the US

[teal jackal]

tbh get real bro, economy sucks

c1 is great

[west egret]

people in this server act like whole families don’t live off of less than six figure income

[smoky lodge]

*150k

[teal jackal]

i feel like c1 would still be enough to set me up with good growth in the future and good economic stability

[teal jackal]

depensd on COL

150k in HCOL, 120k-130k in mcol

which even then

dont hate on it

its not bad

[smoky lodge]

In NYC and SF it’s 160k+ if that’s what you mean by HCOL

[teal jackal]

yeah and whats the hiring bar for that

[keen grove]

stop responding to this dude lol

obviously wasting time

[teal jackal]

youre literally trolling bro

[keen grove]

he is

[teal jackal]

im wasting time on u

[west egret]

Dude sounds super elitist

[smoky lodge]

Where do you have offers from?

[teal jackal]

this jason kid is trolling

fuck it idc

discussion over

[sage current]

amazon, microsoft, datadog, IMC, etc...

[weak latch]

Leave the server weirdo

Shut up

we don't care

[smoky lodge]

can I have referrals?

[weak latch]

if you're just gonna shit on people for taking or wanting an offer from perceived "low TC" like you say, then you have no purpose being here

don't be a dick

[teal jackal]

this kid is trolling lmao

[weak latch]

You're not funny

[smoky lodge]

Can I have referrals?

[sage current]

i have not accepted offer syet

[sweet urchin]

Leave him alone, hes obviously compensating for something in his life lol

Ur mad cause im right

Ayo chill

[weak latch]

@smoky lodge stop just let him be dumb lol

ignore

[smoky lodge]

let me play with him

[teal jackal]

so anyways, does karat usually ask graph questions?

[smoky lodge]

how big is your penis.

[sweet urchin]

Lol alright, its ab obvious troll

[teal jackal]

what should i prep for with karat

[sage current]

LC

[teal jackal]

i know graphs is important

do they ask problems with like hashmaps, heaps and that kinda stuff?

its easier though to prepare for interviews by paradigms than by a data structure

a data structure doesnt tell me what the common pattern/approach is

really scraped the bottom of the barrel with that insult tbh

[smoky lodge]

he's messing around im messing around

why are you such an insecure little piece of human garbage

pls don't

i still need them to send me an oa

that's going too far

[compact obsidian]

i have an offer from your mother

TC: 1M

[fallen fox]

zon waitlist is moving boys

[winter loom]

Email?

[smoky lodge]

can i please just have an amzn oa

[lilac siren]

Where did you see it?

Is it 2023_grad_process?

[fallen fox]

my ex-ta is currently an sde manager at aws. he said they're slowly working through the waitlist

[neat shore]

So when r they gonna send out OAs again

[serene fable]

Hopefully other teams have openings too, aws will be rough

[grizzled bronze]

My ex-Discord buddy is an L6 at Amazon and she confirmed that

[fallen fox]

dunno but i can dm you his linkedin if you wanna connect and ask him stuff

[nocturne oriole]

@sage current if even @smoky lodge is calling u out for being toxic u fucked up

Your deleted comments are toxic af we generally ban for that

Go process the ban offer you gremlin

Cuz u just got it

Hope i never have to work with u

[hazy egret]

Uh oh

Poopy

[split plaza]

Wtf happened

[smoky lodge]

wait why did you ban him he was funny

[hazy egret]

Spill the tea

[dire ore]

What he say

[serene fable]

Pretty sure he was being elitist about capital one, at least

[grizzled bronze]

Have you followed up? If it's been more than a week then follow up again

[wicked rivet]

ive also been ghosted

[smoky lodge]

i literally only have a c1 offer and i think this ban is unwarranted he was funny

[wicked rivet]

who should u follow up to

ya same

[grizzled bronze]

Oh I was assuming you meant after final round

[serene fable]

Didn't actually see the comment myself, just the responses

[dire ore]

I visited the ddog office

And man

That place is amazing 46h floor of NYT building

[wicked rivet]

anyone still waiting for pinterest after submitting codesignal score

submitted an 840+ like a week and a half ago, heard they resume screened b4

hmm hopefully

[wet coral]

is apple new grad out?

[sage current]

Is anyone down for a moc interview?

[chilly burrow]

Yes

[night magnet]

Yes

Submitted Tuesday

[static moth]

floors 45 46 49 and 47/48 (can't remember which one of those 2)

they got 4 floors

heard they're looking to expand even further

[fossil jewel]

did you visit at the boba event bc i was there too lol

they rejected me after hr call

[crude oxide]

What was your timeline?

[ivory stratus]

Imagine being one of the families that owns just one of those buildings in NYC

[grizzled bronze]

This is so dumb but also funny

[dire ore]

Visited at like 9

[stuck siren]

does apple do competing offers? the tc varies a lot on levels

[foggy perch]

i've heard it's mainly because ai/ml team pays sig. more than others

[prime palm]

@static moth

[prime palm]

Did you sign new grad ddog

[static moth]

yoooo

i think @dire ore was leaning google

[static moth]

wait was this q for me or for him

[dusky plover]

bro

the best blind post this week was the do you like anime guy

[dire ore]

No I did final on Friday

/ yesterday kekw

But I visited the office with friends

[static moth]

thoughts about it?

[dire ore]

The snack bar is better than google for sure

Sick view

[static moth]

they apparently have free boba now

and other shit

[prime palm]

Bruh let me in

@dire ore get me into datadog

[static moth]

guessing u gonna go G over doggy?

[dire ore]

95% yeah to google

Unless DDOG allows remote

[static moth]

ya ik ppl who are doin remote ng

[grizzled bronze]

I'm glad Google rejected me, otherwise I wouldn't achieve my weight loss goals

[dire ore]

Is tc the same even doing remote

Or do they adjust for COL

[static moth]

well the only 2 ppl i know who had the option of doin remote as ng were gonna do it from the bay area

same tc in that case

[dire ore]

Was gonna live in Texas

Probably big COL adjustment

[static moth]

ah ok no clue

probably

[dire ore]

Dude i can’t believe there’s free protein shakes there

Fucking hell that’s so good

[static moth]

at G office?

[dire ore]

Ddog

[static moth]

oh wtf

didn't know that

[dire ore]

Won’t ever have to worry about daily protein requirement

[static moth]

their ice tea bottles are crack

[dire ore]

You won’t believe the haul we took from ddog

Ice cream, 5 packs of teriyaki jerky, 5 protein shakes

Made it out like bandits

[static moth]

hooooly

[last summit]

i think you could pay swes 5m/yr and they would still steal $3 protein shakes

[kind galleon]

pog wait was it onsite final

i had no idea i was passing by ddog office this summer when it was just the NYT building

the NYT building is really pretty

surprised it isnt entirely occupied by the NYT

[vital meteor]

theres something about free

[kind galleon]

they also have a jollibees like right across lol

[vital meteor]

that feels good

[kind galleon]

yesss

[dire ore]

Having to pay is a

[kind galleon]

lets work for free

it'll feel good for the company

[static moth]

i thought they served left overs tuesday and rhursday?

[kind galleon]

i can't tell if ur joking

[dire ore]

They gotta do free food 5x breakfast lunch and dinner

[static moth]

oh lmao

[dire ore]

I would heavily consider

[static moth]

free food xd

[kind galleon]

benefits:
stocked pantry
leftovers on tuesdays and thursdays

[vital meteor]

no food for zon

gotta line up at breadlines

[dire ore]

I’m interning at zon and there’s snacks and food

[kind galleon]

wdym, bananas are good enough for sustinence

[dire ore]

Just you gotta pay for it

[jaunty basalt]

How much though

Isn’t it cheap

[dire ore]

Actually yeah

[prime palm]

Why don't u wanna be in person?

Just curious

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz Apple and msft are similar

[dire ore]

7 dollars for a whole pizza

[jaunty basalt]

U gotta pay

Bro that’s not bad

But yeah obviously free is much better

[static moth]

wait msft no free food too??

[crystal delta]

some teams have snacks

[static moth]

bruh

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah they’re don’t have unless ur in Bay Area

[crystal delta]

but someone still has to go buy them and then manager reimburses lol

[jaunty basalt]

I got Redmond so

[dire ore]

Cuz living with family is quite nice

[static moth]

fair

[quick wraith]

Is it impossible to get an offer now?

[dire ore]

Part of the reason why im@interviewing

[quick wraith]

[dire ore]

Cuz google no remote

[static moth]

wait snacks are normally not free too?????

[dire ore]

[crystal delta]

nope not free in general

it's really shitty

[static moth]

wtffff

surprised apple and msft are doin this

[crystal delta]

even msft has free snacks/drinks i think

[static moth]

like i'd expect amazon

[prime palm]

True

[dire ore]

Frugality has spread everywhere

[prime palm]

Do u want to live an office life tho

[dire ore]

I’m like 70/30 in preferring living at home to office life. Wouldn’t mind living office life if I had to do it but I’ve been getting homesick lately.

[fossil jewel]

they also had IPA's it seems???

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah

[fossil jewel]

lol i stole snacks when i went too

[jaunty basalt]

You know Apple ICT2 is hourly

[static moth]

i think they did have a bunch of booze ya. heard ddog parties get wild

[jaunty basalt]

Like the base they gave me is based on 40hrs/week but it does leave the opportunity for overtime

[fossil jewel]

sadge they rejected when i had a referral too but it is what it is

[dire ore]

I took picture of the CEOs desk

From far away

He sits in open office seating so it looks like you can just walk up to the CEO anytime

[static moth]

ya C suite is out in the open iirc

[quick wraith]

They sit with the peasants

[fossil jewel]

seems that they have really nice culture honestly

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/god-i-love-trampolining-rats-rat-kfc-deep-fry-gif-25163212

[mystic glacier]

the last #grad_postings_old was 20+ days ago

[teal jackal]

check coderquad

[compact vortex]

is slack doing new grad this year?

[teal jackal]

salesforce as a whole is not

not yet at least

but my hopes are low

[ashen musk]

Anyone received doordash VO May be we

[teal jackal]

salesforce is being super annoying about it

"only prior interns can apply for new grad"

[compact vortex]

what the fuck bruh ok

slack seems so cool

[spring ledge]

slack

[compact obsidian]

ye i saw a slack new grad app

[spring ledge]

what makes them seem so cool to you?

[compact vortex]

culture is just cool lol

[compact vortex]

its for prior salesforce interns lol

[compact obsidian]

nah a new one opened like 2 weeks ago

looks like its closed now tho

[spring ledge]

nah

maybe dec 2023

but not this cycle

already speedrunning it for 2024

[weak latch]

no fucking way

[runic wind]

Lmao which company's OA is this?

[weak latch]

Citadel

[stuck siren]

wtf really

[weak latch]

yes

[kind galleon]

Are you an expert on data structures?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

[thick shell]

Isn’t this the hackerrank practice test lol

[weak latch]

man let me troll

:(

[thick shell]

Sorry chief

[teal jackal]

did leetcode crash

[thick shell]

Yep

[grizzled bronze]

Under maintenance. Hopefully dark mode finally works.

[tardy geode]

Leetcode down

i can touch grass now for a while

[teal jackal]

im probably gonna go to bed

f1 singapore gp is tomorrow

[tardy geode]

pog

[teal jackal]

i like redbull the drink, but im anti redbull f1

verstappen fanboys are atrociously insufferable

[low scroll]

amazing quali in singapore

[teal jackal]

hamilton in p3

[smoky lodge]

what's the cost of living in san diego vs san francisco

[teal jackal]

i can support

[hasty birch]

Pretty sure it was because of the contest, usually goes down for few mins immediately after

[austere grove]

all the swe will be moving there then

priced out of their homes

we are the investment bankers of 2008

[marble bronze]

Yeah I can't imagine the area around La Jolla being cheap at all

Or at least cheap to that extent

[marble bronze]

...I just realized that I think I signed up for Fannie Mae Tech program in Plano TX rather than Reston VA

[sonic sand]

Also, I am not sure, whether it is appropriate to send this message here. LMK if I need to remove.

[coarse charm]

this season

[smoky lodge]

Why tf did I waste so much time on my gpa instead of leetcoding

[wild spear]

anyone awake

[smoky lodge]

hello there

[night magnet]

Really?

I didn’t realize they had that option

Lowkey might select that option instead of Reston (Tysons)

Dallas is nice

[teal jackal]

im up watching f1 rn

[twilit wasp]

what hackerrank questions did you get in the end?

[weak latch]

FizzBuzz.

[teal jackal]

i had a funny dream last night
i got a job offer after a 30 minute chat with some random guy
and i felt mad bliss

[autumn ridge]

Asking the important questions ^

[teal jackal]

pretty good

115k base, 20k stock, 20k bonus

[austere grove]

If credit suisse falls we’re all completely fucked right

The entire banking system will implode (again)

And senior swe at google will start getting laid off

Mcdicks burger flipper looking likelier by the day

[teal jackal]

im pretty pessimistic too

about how bad the recession might get

[austere grove]

If a major bank falls it will be 2008 over again

Which was terrible

For employees

Im@gonna apply to my local Pizza Hut in advance

[tardy geode]

is the LC bot on the server same as LC premium

[teal jackal]

i dont have any

weekday or weekend

[compact obsidian]

spacex :omegalul: