2023_grads

[fresh laurel]

I have Microsoft return too

in Atlanta though

[smoky lodge]

Microsoft sucks lol

[foggy perch]

Isn't msft fully remote

[teal jackal]

at least Atlanta is MCOL

[foggy perch]

Or is that just team dependent

[teal jackal]

so not so expensive

i remember summer after snioer year of hs

friends planned on going to strip club

[fresh laurel]

lower pay though

[teal jackal]

then one kids mom found out and grounded him

we all cancelled in solidarity

[marble bronze]

Might be lower income tax as well

[peak ferry]

^^

[marble bronze]

Ah

[teal jackal]

your savings rate in Atlanta will probably be pretty good

washington sales tax is crazy though

it drove me crazy

[runic wind]

Atlanta is weirdly p expensive

But companies their don't pay well

[teal jackal]

relative to other HCOL cities? no doubt atlanta is getting expensive tho

[runic wind]

Yeah obv less than say the bay area

[marble bronze]

Community-aggregated website to see where companies are in general with their processes and such

[runic wind]

But like more than Austin, for eg

[marble bronze]

Check https://www.cscareers.dev/process-tracking/2023-new-grad for a cleaner view

[peak ferry]

ga income tax is pretty high, 5.75% >7k

[marble bronze]

Ye

[fresh laurel]

true

[smoky lodge]

i've been deciding where to apply based on TC but never took COL into account

[fresh laurel]

1/3 of my intern salary

[peak ferry]

how much do they match? questionable worth it if u get a decent offer somewhere else js

[teal jackal]

wow, thats a crappy deal then

austin tc is really good now

[marble bronze]

133.3% for first 3% + 100% for next 3%, 3 year vest

[smoky lodge]

apparently 100k in Salt Lake City is equivalent to 200k in San Francisco

[peak ferry]

oh that's actually p decent, but still only worth like what ~6k/yr

[teal jackal]

tbh i dont even doubt that

[fresh laurel]

atl is getting more expensive but the income stays the same

[marble bronze]

So about 7% total I think? Unfortunate that they lock it down - def looking elsewhere to see if I can score a better deal

[late kestrel]

3 year cliff is brutal. thats the legal maximum they can do lol

[marble bronze]

Really? LOL

[teal jackal]

SLC is super cheap since nobody but mormons want to live in mormonland

i probably would only move to utah as a last ditch

[peak ferry]

my company vests over 5yr so not accurate ...

[marble bronze]

Haven't seen much in SLC, a few in Provo though (mainly Qualtrics)

Ye

[late kestrel]

yeah thats the same as my internship this summer, they matched up to 7% of our contributions, if we come back then its only 2 years, as our internship counts as one year... so essentially a 3 year cliff lol

[topaz elk]

What's the best GitHub for Full time positions rn

[marble bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I gave up using any github repo and just started searching on my own

[loud olive]

i have applied to amazon 4 times now in the past 4 years, all with referrals, not once did i pass the "application submitted" stage

[teal jackal]

i hate to barge in on your secret, but what sites do u use

i just use linkedin

[marble bronze]

I have very low expectations

1. Google "F500 company list"
2. Click on the link to each website, or search them up
3. Check to see if they have new grad, if yes and the range isn't dogshit (I've seen some in the 55-60 range, yike), apply

[teal jackal]

55-60 what?

ah makes sense

[marble bronze]

k

TC

[teal jackal]

ah makes sense

[west pagoda]

Damn seems like a lot of work loll

[peak ferry]

job hunting takes a lot of work

[west pagoda]

Albeit you probably see some of the more lowkey positions

I guess depends on how big that list is. There’s like at least 70 companies I’d totally be down to work for lol

[teal jackal]

lawlllll same

for positions taht are non-university hiring but dont specify YOE, i dont tell anyone abt it

but i dont get any interviews from them anyways

so its pointless overall

[west pagoda]

Sheesh @rain patio save some for the rest of us 😭

[west pagoda]

Just took a peek at the process channel and see them with like 4 offers and 3 in process lol

[smoky lodge]

does anyone know how much TC is for Lucid's remote position

[formal glen]

does IBM let you code in java if you were to get a phone interview/in-person interview?

[reef lynx]

Anyone heard from their Uber HR about how long we need to wait for the hiring pause? The status in my Uber career portal changes to offered but I was told by HR there is a pause happening, I need to wait for finalizing headcounts.

[smoky lodge]

cuz for salt lake city it's 100k (which adjusted for COL is 200k in san francisco) but i can't find info about the remote

[topaz elk]

Is ibm on hiring freeze

[marble bronze]

Don't think so?

[young peak]

I left 100k untaxed sure, but NYC vs Seattle drops that difference quite a bit. Nevertheless, it was 100% a hard decision

but it felt right to me at that moment

and still feels right having started at G

[teal jackal]

wait lucid is fully remote?

[split plaza]

Is this for Online Communities

[smoky lodge]

apparently

[teal jackal]

honestly id be happy with 100k a year in a 0COL location

0COL = stay at home with my parents

[smoky lodge]

Same honestly

Cuz then you’d have no or close to no housing or food cost

[teal jackal]

0COL is goated tbh

[smoky lodge]

And if you’re parents live in a state with low taxes than most of that 100k is just getting saved

[dusky plover]

being home with ur parents means u wont grow as an adult

[teal jackal]

tbh i do not give a damn about living independently

i dont see it as a meaningful achievement

[smoky lodge]

I feel so dumb for neglecting companies based on tc without thinking about COL

[teal jackal]

how is that dumb? on god TC first

because better TC is generally correlated with better prestige

long run youll be able to grow further from a high tc company

[smoky lodge]

Like I didn’t apply to SIG (a trading firm) cuz the TC was like 125k, then I realized that in the rural area of PA it’s based in that’s actually more like the equivalent 190-200k in San Francisco

[teal jackal]

ok thats true, my sister has never moved out before and it shows\

i thought about it

eventually im gonna have to move out

[marble bronze]

I feel that its possible to have both

[teal jackal]

con: living in fuck middle of nowhere PA

[smoky lodge]

I mean if you’re seriously career driven you’re going to be switching careers every 2 years

[teal jackal]

yeah id go crazy up in that bitch

i need a suburb

i grew up in outer ring suburbs

i prefer outer ring suburbs if i have a car

but if i was gonna raise kids id move somewhere walkable with public transit

kids gonna suffocate to death in an outer ring suburb

[smoky lodge]

And honestly given the effect compounding has for you’re first few years I would pick wherever you can save the most money

[teal jackal]

💯

im gonna apply to sig

u still can i think

[smoky lodge]

Like I have an offer from Capital One and I was using the TC in the offer as a filter

But now I’m realizing that neglecting places like SIG and lucid based on that was like

Incredibly stupid

[teal jackal]

Congrats broski

when was ur power day?

[marble bronze]

I really regret not starting my search earlier

[smoky lodge]

Like almost a month ago

[marble bronze]

Never heard back from c1

[teal jackal]

should i consider pushing my power day up?

im paranoid theyll close before my power day comes

mine is late nov

[smoky lodge]

Yes

[teal jackal]

i think ill push it up to mid oct to early nov

late nov is too late

[trail linden]

did anyone do technical with mastercard before? Any tips on how i can prepare for it?

[floral plank]

Is it fr?

I have their final round but don't really plan on taking their offer

[smoky lodge]

Yeah it is

[trail linden]

how was the first round technical for you?

[smoky lodge]

See this what I’m saying, using TC as a filter w/o looking at COL is a bad move

[floral plank]

I never even got one. It was OA > recruiter call > final

[dire yarrow]

[trail linden]

oh wow good for u

[smoky lodge]

The work you’d do at SIG is similar to the work you’d do at any other proprietary trading firm right?

[trail linden]

i realized they have diff process for everyone weird

[marble bronze]

Amazon and Capital One both stopped adding new people to the pipeline a lot earlier.

At the same time, I'm not sure if I would have passed the interviews if I didn't spend more time practicing.

[trail linden]

i got no OA straight first round

[floral plank]

I assume sig doesn't do remote right?

[teal jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONOL7eg5TsI&ab_channel=KeyboardCrasherTV

"im a real gangster i cheat on OAs"

[serene nymph]

has anyone done the full square problem on cs?

[floral plank]

I think return offer helps cuz I have one

[smoky lodge]

company sends proctored OA

[trail linden]

same i also have one interesting

[dire yarrow]

If you graduate in May 23 you have lot of time and opportunities

Dw

It's gonna open up again

Delaying is bad tho

Don't postpone applying because you feel under confident

Treat it as practice

[smoky lodge]

Imo if the under-confidence is real it may be warranted

[dire yarrow]

No, just treat an interview as practice

This interview isn't gonna be your last

[smoky lodge]

But if you think post-poning for a week can seriously help why wouldn’t you

[dire yarrow]

And you got a lot of time, you can maybe reapply and get an interview after cooldown in same cycle

[dire yarrow]

I don't think a week is gonna help with your confidence

[smoky lodge]

You’d be surprised

[dire yarrow]

Getting in the field and doing live interviews will

[dire yarrow]

In a week you can probably grind company specific problems, but there is a chance you'd get different question

[teal jackal]

i broadly agree with this

[dire yarrow]

I mean, do grind leetcode, but also keep in mind that this isn't the last interview you'll get.

[teal jackal]

you dont want to waste an opportunity at a job

[dire yarrow]

I gave Bloomberg interview around this time last year, got rejected, got to give it again after 6 months cooldown in April

So it happens

And I got rejected from Robinhood, palantir, so many startups, I'm really thankful looking at their fate rn

From my experience, definitely. Again, the market isn't like last year. But it's not the end. You'll get something for sure.

I got more interviews after Jan than before Jan.

My first offer (Amazon) was this April. I was graduating in May

[fast hinge]

Jan is pretty close tho

[marble bronze]

Eh

[fast hinge]

Seems scummy

[peak ferry]

personally that sounds pointless unless you think there's a reasonable likelihood they'd rescind it (ex are they a startup that may be struggling)

[dire yarrow]

Last year, this time was considered mid early for new grads ngl. A shit ton of apps opened in Jan. And hiring was happening throughout the year

[marble bronze]

Really hope this downturn just doesn't extend for long

[teal jackal]

True

Wait yeah Bloomberg cool down is only 6 months?

That's pretty sick

I'll reapply next spring if I still don't have an offer

You guys have savings right

[smoky lodge]

Isn’t the cool down for most places 6 months

[teal jackal]

I bought max contribution to my Roth ira

And bought a lot of stuff

[low scroll]

this gives me hope

[teal jackal]

True, I imagined that some places only let you apply once all season

[teal jackal]

Wow

Will some companies interview u in Jan for applications that u submitted on September though

[low scroll]

i got interviews like that for internships

I think new grad recruiting goes all year around no?

[whole berry]

did my boys get tiktok assessment?

i just got it

[fierce river]

What role did you applied for ? And when did you applied ?

[whole berry]

swe

tiktok engineering

[fierce river]

When did you applied?

[whole berry]

sep 17

[ivory stratus]

oh i just applied two days ago lol

[whole berry]

they apparently do testing every 2 weeks?

like they select a batch

[ivory stratus]

oh interesting

hopefully next week or the week after then

[calm shale]

is bloomberg phone usually from tagged

[mellow dew]

idk i have netflix in an hour but after

[west egret]

I got one tagged and one non-tagged.

Honestly with LC, I think it’s just RNG.

[dim osprey]

is there a group specifically for DS/MLE roles?

Hey, I think it's high time we create one 🙂

[smoky lodge]

actually question, if you fail an interview somewhere (cough bloomberg cough) should you re-apply in 6 months

[dire yarrow]

Haha why not

[smoky lodge]

hmmm

cuz clearly i could get past the resume screen

[dire yarrow]

Reach out to your previous recruiter

Ask them when you can apply next

[shy dock]

wouldnt bloomberg be full 6 months from now

[low scroll]

thought they hire year around

[fallen fox]

so does amazon but they are wait listing pretty much everyone

[formal glen]

nice. I applied at sept 13 and still got no OA

[round lake]

Anyone got Paycom interview?

[livid turret]

Anyone has draft kings or Okta interviews??

[alpine matrix]

Can anyone refer me to Yahoo? Or help me to find recruiters?

[distant rampart]

i didnt get tiktok OA 😦 and i applied with a referral

[whole berry]

how so

oh yeah that 15% needs support crap ?

ya i saw that

some start ups are smart

some of em are hiring massively NOW

because now they get the cream of the crop talent

they get to sift thru thousands of applications

rather than 100s before

[chilly burrow]

https://www.cscareers.dev/blog/landing-software-engineer-interviews-through-cold-emailing

[calm shale]

tldr?

[low scroll]

which ones?

[austere grove]

People who’ve been rejected by Roblox after final (and they did well on LC) can you tell me what you think went wrong

[smoky lodge]

Is the sig OA just codesignal?

[floral plank]

Yea

[frank wedge]

I worked there, can send

[teal jackal]

economy fuckt

[lunar badger]

A recruiter from bloomberg emailed me and said he wanna call me to talk about "next steps in the interview process". I did my EM and HR interviews last friday. Is this gonna be another interview or an offer?

[foggy perch]

probs offer or rejection

[ebon quiver]

bruh i j got rejected before i got to interivew

amazon j rejected me 2 hours before my interview

wtf

[foggy perch]

what'd they say

[ebon quiver]

Thank you for taking the time to speak with the team. We are not moving forward in the interview process for this position.

this is after i set up an interview time and everything

my guess is they j frozee hiring

[lunar badger]

What did ur recruiter say when they emailed u to schedule the call? For me it was a different recruiter. His name's matthew pierce

[foggy perch]

It was a different recruiter too

[lunar badger]

What was the wording in the email? I booked the call for 3 o'clock

[strange ore]

Anybody else get a ByteDance (Lark) HackerRank where none of the dates were filled in

[iron lily]

Check Glassdoor for DraftKings, it’s pretty accurate in terms of the questions they ask

[teal jackal]

feels like the coderquad is so dried up

no more positions incoming

[timber rock]

Has anyone done the software engineer job simulation at deloitte, wondering what kind of questions I can expect?

[ebon quiver]

guys if i cant get a job, what do i do

i can take a gap year,

grind certifications

work on side projects

[lament summit]

Masters

[bleak anchor]

Anyone know if Roblox negotiates salary?

[ebon quiver]

ah good idea

[ebon quiver]

but it takes to apply and stuff right

[lament summit]

yeah ofc

[ebon quiver]

its not like i can join in a few week

[lament summit]

and gre

[ebon quiver]

oh yeah and that

thats gonna be half a year

[lament summit]

yep

[ebon quiver]

maybe i can get a job in half a year

[lament summit]

I think companies are starting to open up

So don’t lose hope just yet

[knotty folio]

I think schools are starting to drop GRE req but maybe that's still new

[ebon quiver]

bruh i j got rejected from amazon when my interview in an hour

i had decent hope until shit like that happens

[lament summit]

might b a mistake

[ebon quiver]

so frustrating

[lament summit]

Email ur recruiter

[ebon quiver]

i emailed but we will see

[lament summit]

r u still gonna go

To ur interview

I thought amazon was frozen

[ebon quiver]

i mean i got an interfview so like

why they do that to me then

ima still go

and j sit in the room

[foggy perch]

I don't remember, but probs irrelevant it was just something like scheduling a call

[autumn ridge]

Does the tik tok OA say tik tok or byte dance?

[modern socket]

tiktok oa is auto right?

so why did it take 30 years for them to send it?

[ebon quiver]

i didnt get it

[autumn ridge]

Seems likely a lot went out today

[ebon quiver]

so it aint oa

it aunt automatic

🥹

[compact vortex]

whats the tiktok oa like?

[timber rock]

Nah it isn't auto

[compact vortex]

how hard is it supposed to be

[teal jackal]

really? i thought coderquad was dried up by now

[ebon quiver]

^^

it hasnt updated in hella

[timber rock]

Very hard I've heard

[weak latch]

mine says Bytedance in the email subject but Software Engineer, University Graduate (Lark)- 2023 Start (BS/MS) - TikTok Early Careers in the email

not sure why its tiktok early careers im assuming Lark isn't tiktok

[modern socket]

consensus seems to be that it’s auto

i applied sept 7th and just got it

[ebon quiver]

if it was auto i woulda gotten it dont ya think @modern socket

[timber rock]

Maybe it's just slow then I applied 2 weeks ago and haven't got it yet

[modern socket]

when did u apply

[timber rock]

And my app status says resume screening

[ebon quiver]

9/7

[modern socket]

idk bro

i’m just telling u what the general consensus has been

[ebon quiver]

im sad

[teal jackal]

isnt tiktok oa crazy hard

[uneven grove]

For each job page it says:

Technical Assessment Candidates who pass resume evaluation will be invited to participate in TikTok's technical online assessment in HackerRank.

So not auto

Bruh I realized I applied to a team that’s meh and should’ve applied to another team

Hope I can somehow switch

[teal jackal]

nah tiktok is not auto

but OA is crazy hard

[amber jasper]

yeah, tiktok OA is fuxking crazy hard

[smoky lodge]

What is the tik tok oa like

[weak latch]

well the practice hackerrank had 3 lc hards 😂

[autumn ridge]

holy

[weak latch]

Tree, Trie, and what looks like DP 😂

[round lake]

Anyone had an interview for Paycom?

[timber rock]

Yeah lc hard dp is what I've heard

And the interview is multiple lc hards as well

[last belfry]

Rip

Lol

[autumn ridge]

Is it possible they toned down the difficulty with how much hiring they have been doing since COVID

[round lake]

For Paycom?

[smoky lodge]

No

[timber rock]

No, tiktok

[smoky lodge]

I did a paycom internship two years ago but the technical question was very easy if I remember correctly

[round lake]

Ohh okay

[smoky lodge]

Should I even waste my time on the tik tok oa

[timber rock]

Maybe you'll get lucky

[smoky lodge]

There’s no way I’m passing that shit if it has hard DP problems on it

[modern socket]

take it and tell me what questions it has

they ain’t bro

you just suck at leetcode

yeah i know

[smoky lodge]

Bruv the tik tok oa is due in 5 days

[teal jackal]

yeah ill never get into tiktok

[weak latch]

same im not even gonna do it bruh 💀

there's no point

[smoky lodge]

You’re right

But wait what’s this

[teal jackal]

gedeon doing tiktok too?

[marble bronze]

Wake up to SeatGeek reject email

Damn

[slate bobcat]

If I have a JPM offer is it worth doing Ibm and Expedia OA?

[teal jackal]

same, but tbh its ok seatgeek has a shitty name anyways

seatgeek just sounds ugly as a name

[smoky lodge]

So wait

Should I just wait for the next batch and grind DP

[teal jackal]

yeah id try to wait

and grind DP

tiktok loves dicktok dp

fuck

tiktok is insane

[autumn ridge]

I feel like graphs are difficult because of the long tail of possible algorithms you need to know for certain questions.

[timber rock]

Bro I got 17% on twitters oa last year

[teal jackal]

yeah p much

[smoky lodge]

Did you fail

[teal jackal]

wasnt twitter oa auto

yeah i remember

it was crazy fr

[floral plank]

What is imb?

[timber rock]

Pretty sure all my points were edge cases as well like if input is 0 return 0 type shit

[calm shale]

do yall know about tiktok 996

and how its terrible if you don’t speak chinese

[slate bobcat]

I meant ibm

[calm shale]

it sounds 10x worse than amazon

[teal jackal]

W for me tbh

chinese speaker W

[ebon quiver]

i passed the twitter OA and the fuckin interviews just to get renegged

twitter is a dogshit company

i wouldnt wish that fuckin shit on anyone no cap

ive heard bad things from engineers too

tbh i think of it as a good thing

[autumn ridge]

is their a way to turn off autocomplete for the new LC?

[ebon quiver]

yeah lmao

thats why im here >_>

im with u

tbh it was prolly karma cuz i have renegged in the past

back for internships

smart smart

thats true

jesus bud congrats

ig he moved the deadline

damn bruh. i got a msft offer sometime last year too. i rejected it

how much i regret that 😦

[smoky lodge]

Is it possible to bomb the tik tok oa and still pass

[ebon quiver]

twitter bruh i took twitter

[elder hound]

Anyone else's TikTok application say "Ended" but got no rejection email 😦

[elder hound]

😦

[ebon quiver]

and now no company wants to touch me

[ebon quiver]

mine too

[ebon quiver]

tbh its fine bud. it looks like we woulda both failed the oa anyways

[elder hound]

I had a frontend role last summer @ G but it's not what I want to do long term so I've been applying to Infra / BE jobs. I think that's making my hit rate lower but I'll take it if that's what I need to change trajectories

[teal jackal]

does Ended mean Resume Rj in tiktok speak

[ebon quiver]

bruh so u have a return offer ?

[teal jackal]

so lucky

[ebon quiver]

i thought we on the same boat

[teal jackal]

lucky to have a job at all

[ebon quiver]

[ebon quiver]

fucking fax

fuck me

bruh

[elder hound]

technically not yet passed HC but my org hasn't come out with headcount (like the majority of google orgs) so no one knows how G interns will fair

[ebon quiver]

j do internal transfer

[teal jackal]

honestly ive realized that everyone in this chat with a return offer seems like an imposter to people who dont have one to fall back on

[ebon quiver]

easier shit ever

[ebon quiver]

i swear im in the same boat as u. i have nothing. i went from flying in the clouds with multiple faang offers to now nothing

around this time last year, i had twitter, msft, meta

and now i have literally nothing

its insane how quickly things can change

[teal jackal]

bro last summer i did kinda well, i had meta, zon, spotify, anduril, hubspot interview and others

[ebon quiver]

just be grateful if u have an offer guys

[uneven grove]

Thought I dodged a bullet not taking meta return offer to intern somewhere else

[teal jackal]

my response rate last year was better than my current response rate

[uneven grove]

Then I got fucked still

I’m cursed

Everywhere I intern they have hiring freezes after

[ebon quiver]

everones experience prolly

[teal jackal]

its so ass rn

[uneven grove]

It is now my duty to work at TikTok to bring that company down

[ebon quiver]

same bruh

[teal jackal]

im getting routinely out-competed in the resume screening phase

[ebon quiver]

lmao can i ask u to work twitter so u fuck em too

[ebon quiver]

classic

[teal jackal]

u too?

[ebon quiver]

yeah

@teal jackal j keep working hard man

get ur lc skill up. that way when u do get an interview

u will get it

[teal jackal]

i hope

[ebon quiver]

also apply to more than 67

[teal jackal]

i honestly dont feel like grass touching anymore

[ebon quiver]

i have applied to 200+

[sour night]

Did anyone not receive a tiktok OA

[teal jackal]

ive lost interest in social events

[ebon quiver]

me.

[teal jackal]

because i just want to grind

[ebon quiver]

same.

[ebon quiver]

i heard its 3 hard dp. so maybe we dodged a bullet. they think we to dumb anyway. they prolly right too

[teal jackal]

only social itneraction i feel like i still give a damn about is my family

[ebon quiver]

9/7

[smoky lodge]

Get fucked by the resume screen scrubs

[ebon quiver]

frick u breh @smoky lodge

lmk when u can do dp

[smoky lodge]

I can’t and won’t be good at dp before the OA unfortunately

[ebon quiver]

not such a big deal u got the oa then

ur resume must be nice tho

[smoky lodge]

it really isn’t

But this does boost my ego

[ebon quiver]

lmao

until u realize u cant actually do the oa

then ur below then what u were before @smoky lodge

[smoky lodge]

I’m gonna pay thousands of dollars to access sketchy Chinese websites to see the questions and cheat

[ebon quiver]

u mean chegg

i friggin applied to chegg

[smoky lodge]

no I mean actual Chinese websites

[ebon quiver]

and even they rejected my ass

[smoky lodge]

What was the tc

[ebon quiver]

free chegg premium

so basically unlimited

chegg = unlimited tc

any hw ,any oa, any answer at ur fingertips

https://tenor.com/view/lick-gif-22129306

[smoky lodge]

Would anyone ever hire you if you worked at chegg

[ebon quiver]

it doesnt matter cuz ull have the answer to the interview question before they ask it

thats the power of chegg

u will also have gotten a 4.0 in school.. naturally

[arctic pine]

TikTok oa is proctored I think

[ebon quiver]

gg

[smoky lodge]

memorize the answers from sketchy Chinese website beforehand

[ebon quiver]

got his ass @smoky lodge

[ebon quiver]

can u please show me said website

[smoky lodge]

No I don’t even know what it’s called by jomatech mentioned it in a skit so I assume it does in fact exist

[austere grove]

im so worried about roblox

fuck

yea i just had it

im worried about my last behavioral lol

for q1 the dude said he wasnt convinced by one of my responses to one of his followup questions, but said he'd move on int he interest of time, for q2, the dude didnt verbalize but didnt seem convinced, for q3 the dude seemed fairly happy, anyone who took roblox have some insight ?

they were fiarly easy

i finished them all quickly and answered the follow ups

behavioral 3 was great, really liked my interviewer

ydha

i'd be more worried about the behaviorals

they are the more challenging part imo

idk fi ti's high it's just very odd

i mean i didnt get asked anyhting about games or roblox

i didnt do star, ifeel like it's pretty weird

i just phrased my answers like a story

and answered honestly

idk they behaviorals are pretty standard

yeah

i guess probably

i did do some prep but i've done a lot of behaviorals already

so i am prepepd from the past

2 of the interviewers seemed pretty impressed by my HFT experience LOL

oh wow

not really, i feel like you just gotta think on ur feet well

and be likable

i didnt get weird quetions

but i did get some very specific follow ups

that's fine

yeah

exactyly

i mean i 've done a lot of behaviorals so i am fairly well versed on what's on my resume/in my stories

yeah, but they also just seem curious about it

i assume it's both

[foggy perch]

I think the website was a lintcode joke lol

[austere grove]

the lc i got was like really easy

nothing complicated

[teal jackal]

no fuck

i hate my life

[austere grove]

idt they have a set amount

it just what the interviewer wants

[teal jackal]

yo do u have an 830+ codesignal?

[austere grove]

848

im looking at all the random crap i bought on my internship tc, and i was thinking that these are relics of a bygone economic era

one day ill look back and tell the story of when everyone who coded was rich

[stone latch]

did ebay resend codsignal? I had submitted my score few days ago but got a fresh OA invite today

[night magnet]

GCA

General coding assessment

[austere grove]

link to ebay app?

ic ant find it

[slender apex]

yeah i got another ask, sent them the same one

[slender apex]

its on ripplematch i think

[forest galleon]

balance words?

did you get all the test cases right?

[calm shale]

just regular

[stone latch]

cool, I will also do the same

[timber rock]

No

[slender apex]

no but it hard af

[calm shale]

bb phone wish me luck (if the interviewer decides to show up this time )

[late kestrel]

do not underestimate the chinese my goodness

imagine conducting an interview one time and suddenly your next candiate knows literally everything about you

[celest whale]

U know what gets ur hopes up in vain? U receive an email from IMC recruitment and upon opening it, it’s just an invitation to attend their fucking seminars

[foggy star]

Server reduction cost

[late zephyr]

hi, whats the difference between hrt algo dev and algo swe? (especially in terms of interview content)

[uneven grove]

Bruh she’s been ghosting me after my OA

[young peak]

lmfao saddest thing is

Most of these interviews are gonna look for LC skills + soft skills

sure you can optimally solve the problem, but if you can't form coherent sentences together then its gonna be rough

[hallow depot]

how long did it take for you to receive the email?

[wicked rivet]

i don't think it is

when's your technical

i sent my availability like 4 days ago n they still haven't scheduled it 😭

ya i did too

nah idts

they're pretty small

oh did you not get the email

for scheduling technical yet

ohhh

i think i got it either by the end of the day or the next

lemme check

ya i got it at 10pm the same day

also im p sure we have same recruiter

since he does it for all unis i think

[lament summit]

for forward if they ask if im interviewing elsewhere

do i just say no

lol

[foggy perch]

might as well say yes

pressure for more $

[lament summit]

#2023_grads message

they already know i have an amazon offer

and app they get annoyed if u say ur interviewing elsewhere lol

so ill say no

XD

kk

really?

LOL

they said that to u?

i thought u didnt try to nego

oh

didnt they say money is just a formality

LOL

so shouldnt it not matter how much they pay then

LOL

yeah

[fervent drift]

@west egret how was your interview with netsmart? I got a 30m behavioral and 45m tech

[lament summit]

whos he, ur recruiter or the head of engineering dude

[foggy perch]

lmao this is a kool aid drinking startup

[lament summit]

yeah thats who im meeting in 8 mins

lol

[teal jackal]

where did u hear that

[foggy perch]

obv accept and renege them immediately for big dick energy

[teal jackal]

no wonder why they ask "why do u wanna work at forward"
thats a mad pretentious q no lie

bro if i wanted to work for a mission id make hentai porn games and i would work for myself, not for some ungrateful startup ceo

[foggy perch]

so true

invent the first high budget hentai game

[teal jackal]

reality be like = mfs work for a paycheck not for fun

if u want us to work hard then pay us for it

should i even bother applying to forward, ive been sitting on applying to that shit because idk how to write the "why forward" paragraph

i bet id get screened out anyways

[azure zephyr]

no forward is awful

[lament summit]

the head ofR&D called to give you numbers?

[azure zephyr]

dont do it

[teal jackal]

but they seem too pretentious to be worth applying to

[lament summit]

not the recruiter?

wtf

[teal jackal]

now THATS properly awful

[lament summit]

when did u know u got the offer

[teal jackal]

exploding deadlines awful

[foggy perch]

your school a T5?

[teal jackal]

forward is asking to be reneged

[lament summit]

like during the interview?

[teal jackal]

i think im gonna apply to forward anywaysa

i will not care if i dont get an interview

[lament summit]

forward lowkey is tough tho, the interviews?

[teal jackal]

and if i get an exploding deadline offer ill jsut take and renege

[lament summit]

the interviews are hard

imo

[foggy perch]

nice

I think the hardest interview I've ever had was at Roche Genentech for a Data Science Internship position

where they asked me how I'd improve a word embedding library

lmao

[teal jackal]

i feel like a company that asks "why do u wanna work here" either makes something so interesting that coming up with an explanation is easy, or is pretentious

[foggy perch]

i want to work here because I sure do wanna lick mike bloomberg's shoes

[lament summit]

im just gonna say im not just ready to make a decision, make up some lie about how my family is on the east coast

need to consult my family first

u think thats good?

[teal jackal]

yeah thats a really good excuse

[lament summit]

perf

[teal jackal]

i think anyone who doesnt understand that is a sociopath

[azure zephyr]

idk how you can even seriously consider joining forward with the things they say to candidates

[chilly burrow]

Forward is such a toxic ass company

[azure zephyr]

i was in the middle of the interview cycle with them and withdrew bc the vibes were just too weird for me

[knotty folio]

I have my phone interview with forward in 3 hours... should I just cancel?

[chilly burrow]

Tbh if you got nothing else 🤷‍♂️

[fossil jewel]

they seem pretty backward

[chilly burrow]

I had no offers on the table, but I had such a horrible experience I was willing to drop it.

[azure zephyr]

im just saying in this case bc he has another offer

[chilly burrow]

Thankfully I got an offer a few days l8r lol

[fervent drift]

anyone done IMC OA?

[teal jackal]

god forward sounds AWFUL, i might just apply for fun

i genuinely dont care about resume rj from them

forward health seems to pretentious and condescending

[azure zephyr]

how tf do you say money is not important at all?? esp in the current economy? it just comes off as privileged asf

[chilly burrow]

Yes 😃👍

[teal jackal]

like they act like the company is hot shit
and they think anyone who doesnt agree exactly with their stupid cult is a dumb moron

honestly forward health is perfect for morons who think hard work without any backbone is good

[fossil jewel]

yeah from company perspective it sounds like they wanna undercompensate and overwork

[teal jackal]

but tbf most people who work hard are smart enough to value themselves

i do not work hard, but i think both highly of myself and think im a moron and a failure

the duality is hilarious

[last summit]

maybe their mental health product isnt doing well so they're trying to create customers by torturing employees

[chilly burrow]

I rmbr 1 of the interviewers said they only were looking into health tech when they found forward. They were acting like me looking into other industries was a bad sign. Like I don't have a job? I can't just look at health tech and hope I get a job in it?

[azure zephyr]

when i was interviewing one of the guys (who was 10 mins late anyways) was like "why do you have experience in so many different areas? seems a bit indecisive to me...."

[chilly burrow]

Sammmme

It's so weird

[teal jackal]

thats so horrible

[azure zephyr]

like homie im literally in college isn't the entire point to try different things omg

[teal jackal]

i thought that was the point of an internship

[chilly burrow]

They legit told me the culture was painful...

[teal jackal]

to learn shit

and if u hate the work u know to look elsewhere

[fossil jewel]

when i did superday last year with jpm, the lady said "i like how you explore different things" 🥺

[chilly burrow]

They seem to have no concept that we as college students operate differently than people coming from a job.

[chilly burrow]

That's what a good interviewer would say lol

[teal jackal]

is jpmc good? only thing that i dont like is that you have to wear suits and show up in person

[fossil jewel]

lol i showed up in tees and sneakers

most tech folks showed up in polos, jeans, and sneakers

my schedule was hybrid, wfh mondays and fridays

[floral plank]

didn't they get rid of that

[teal jackal]

ah

thats nice

aite

applying to jpmc then

[fossil jewel]

i liked my internship experience it was pretty chill

clocked out the second it was 5pm

[floral plank]

same

people pretty much left around 4:30

[fossil jewel]

ye they have pretty decent WLB

obv some times you gotta work extra when you're close to a deadline but not for the interns

[west egret]

Oh I never did an interview with them lol

it was just resume reject

[fossil jewel]

fyi nyc base is 110k, 20k sign on, 10k yearly

[teal jackal]

not bad, but not great either

[fossil jewel]

yeah its pretty decent

my safety net honestly

[fervent drift]

oh

fook

[west egret]

no 😦

Are you a previous WD intern too?

[teal jackal]

damn

karat sends an email Every day

reminding me

[foggy perch]

i wonder if docusign interns are dying rn

with the layoffs

[teal jackal]

Probably

I'm not surprised that docusign is screwed rn

How many engineers do they really need to make an e signature platform

[last belfry]

No that’s false it’s casual

[teal jackal]

Which bank was it that makes mfs show up in formal wear

I guess I heard wrong

[late kestrel]

uline in wisco has everyone come in wearing business professional. nutjob ass company on so many levels

[teal jackal]

Wd as in western digital or workday

[dusky plover]

whoever made this question is both a weeb and a gamer

[nocturne obsidian]

Im Finna yolo my Palantir interview

[teal jackal]

Gl

Can u guys make their application process from workday portals less shit

[fossil jewel]

fix workday

[teal jackal]

Like I shouldn't have to sign and date the whole "no I do not disclose any disability" shit

Annoys me every time tbh

[fossil jewel]

maybe they keep it shit so that ppl dont apply 🧠

[late kestrel]

wd is fine if you use that extention

simplify* i think

*not sponsored

[fossil jewel]

simplify is goated

[west egret]

Agreed. I’ve been using simplify on WD apps this season.

[teal jackal]

Formula 1 is sponsored by workday, a system for finance, hr and planning.

🔥

[foggy perch]

same

honestly only justification for workday hiring is like

security people

imo

[late kestrel]

dont most big companies have teams that literally own singular fields

enjoy working on the submit button for the rest of your life

[river harbor]

When do we hear back after bloomberg vo?

[last belfry]

Why is Amazon doing career fair still if they are full lol

[late kestrel]

i heard back this morning after taking my 2nd 1h VO thursday morning. but ive seen it take over a week too

[dense blaze]

?avatar @late kestrel

[earnest warren]

Avatar for cheddy#7744

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[late kestrel]

keep my name out of your whore ass mouth

[river harbor]

My Friend just had 2 vo now

[livid yew]

hello NGs

how was the interviews this week

any juicy offers?

[marble bronze]

Rejected from seatgeek at 7am local time

[livid yew]

seatgeek, damn have not heard that name in uhhh like 9 or 10 years

[teal jackal]

what even is the big deal with seatgeek

seatgeek is a hideous name for a company

[livid yew]

oh I might be thinking of StubHub

same thing basically

[teal jackal]

its like calling a company that sells gasoline GasWeeb

[marble bronze]

130k base would have been a step up from my ATT offer

[late kestrel]

2 finals this week 2 finals next... just need 1

[teal jackal]

ah yeah i bet

[marble bronze]

Hard to negotiate without any competing offers too

[teal jackal]

seatgeek is just such an ugly name for a company

[livid yew]

what did ATT give you

[marble bronze]

88k Dallas base, 3k sign on, 9% company bonus that can be modified at any time

[livid yew]

oof

[marble bronze]

Definitely a comfortable salary, but I'm just fishing for more really

[livid yew]

I mean but better than nothing

[marble bronze]

Also their 7% 401k match has a 3 year vest which is bullshit

Honestly I'm more mad at that than anything else

[livid yew]

I have 6% match, Idk if there is a vest period

I should msg HR about this

nobody explained it too me

[slate bobcat]

[teal jackal]

u can do better than 88k probably

[late kestrel]

3 year cliff says "we dont actually want to match but need to give you the option so we seem nice"

[azure zephyr]

88k in dallas is super good tho

[livid yew]

oh

well my place is already actively matching

at least my last 3 pay checks

[late kestrel]

well but if theres a vesting period you could lose some or all of that match

[livid yew]

fuck if I know

you NGs know so much about the money stuff

its crazy

[late kestrel]

my internship matched 7% on a 3 year cliff but if you came back it counted as 1 year

so it would only be 2 years after ng start

[marble bronze]

All things considered the FIRE time is still on schedule, but I just kinda want more

TC goblin arc

[azure zephyr]

not the spreadsheet for FIRE 💀

[livid yew]

what age you looking to retire at?

I am hopping for like 45-50ish

[livid yew]

wdym

explain

[late kestrel]

i think these are the current legal limits

[livid yew]

I am still trying to understand the term vest lmao

[late kestrel]

so its no worse than this. you might 100% vest in a year, or even as soon as you start

vest = money is yours even if you leave

[livid yew]

my last job had no 401k match, or RSUs

so this is very new to me

[fervent drift]

@distant rampart yo how was the IMC OA?

[livid yew]

I mean I plan to stay at this job for at least 2 years

so 🤷

[late kestrel]

so if its a 3 year cliff youd lose the matching %

[livid yew]

makes sense

[late kestrel]

you keep whatever you put in, but lose the employer match

[marble bronze]

"The company match becomes vested after 3 years of service. If you terminate prior to becoming vested, you will not be entitled to your company match."

Oof.

[livid yew]

so they take the money back?

is that legal?

seems illegal to me

[late kestrel]

my 401k from the internship kept the employee match and my money separate, so i know how much is mine

[marble bronze]

Not sure if they take it back or if they just don't inject the money until the end

[livid yew]

you got a 401k during a internship damn

[marble bronze]

That makes sense

[late kestrel]

its not technically yours until it vests

[marble bronze]

"The holidays include New Year's Day, Martin Luther King Jr Day, President's Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, the day after Thanksgiving and Christmas Day"

No day off on Juneteenth

[late kestrel]

and my pension started as well 😂

if i was to come back ofc

[livid yew]

a lot of places dont take juneteeth off yet

@marble bronze

its a newer holiday

[late kestrel]

then my internship would count towards it

[marble bronze]

Isn't it a federal holiday though?

[livid yew]

yeah

but only since like 2021

so

[marble bronze]

Or is it up to the states/company? to actually like make it a holiday

[livid yew]

idk

what state you live in?

check their docs

INb4 international person

[marble bronze]

Work happens in yeehaw state

Texas*

[livid yew]

yeah I know where ATT HQ is

I have been there before

Dallas IIRC

for context: I work for one of ATTs competitors

[marble bronze]

Yeah, how is it? Honestly kinda looking forward to being on a large corporate campus for the first time

Until I get tired of it and burn out

[livid yew]

I work at comcast in Philly, we got uh 3 giant buildings

pretty cool being in the city tbh

the office has a bunch of cool spots to chill

[oak patrol]

People who got tiktok OA, is it for ML or SWE?

[marble bronze]

I wonder if the AT&T building's food court is free/discounted for employees

[dusky plover]

did anyone get this weird ass email from synop

[uneven grove]

riiip got an interview invite with forward

I'm into health tech but after hearing about the horrible experiences from chat

idk anymore

[calm shale]

damn that was kinda hard

my sol not optimal at all

F

[fervent drift]

yo is the IMC OA dificult?

[floral plank]

it is not bad

First q was very easy

[fervent drift]

okay okay nice

[uneven grove]

xd lgtm!

[floral plank]

2nd q isn't bad but kinda hard to understand at first

[fervent drift]

how many hours of lc do i need

[floral plank]

just do it

[fervent drift]

cause i got another interview comin up on thursday

[floral plank]

unless if you have never touched leetcode

[fervent drift]

ive never touched grass

[late kestrel]

if you solved it its probably good enough, as long as your communication was good

[autumn ridge]

My solution was shaky for my q2 as well and I still passed so don't freak out yet lol

[wicked rivet]

i thought i failed but got vo

to give you some hopium

unoptimal solution and lots of hints

[calm shale]

my guy didn't talk at all which was so wack

also is bad for mentals

[slim mortar]

Anyone heard from google?

[ebon quiver]

bruh

i j had my amazon interview

sooooo yeaaaah

2 interviews

the second one was perfec. finished 30 mins early

the first one was like ... yeah

the dude was like my dad. HELLLLA stone faced and mean

if thats my manager its over

[foggy perch]

rip I think only hope of an Amazon offer rn is if you picked an unpopular city in location preferences

Else waitlist shadow realm

[ebon quiver]

i can work anywhere

i j need a job

plz

the first one wasnt that good tho negl

i spent the last 5 mins coding up a bst instead of j using a treeset

[foggy perch]

I think there was a location preference thing you had to fill out in initial app

[ebon quiver]

but i think he got the point i hoppeee

u think i got the offer guys

or at least past the interviews

[late kestrel]

you both have gray default pfps this is throwing me off

[ebon quiver]

yeah same

@foggy perch change ur shit bud

[austere grove]

Google is doing layoffs

[foggy perch]

I'm the og default pfp smg

Smh

[ebon quiver]

hella nah

ah hell naw

[late kestrel]

im just gonna pretend you are talking to yourself

[ebon quiver]

no im talking to u

[austere grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/973714160707846164/1025468343748145202/024BDE0A-FA6F-45CF-8ED3-E91430901771.jpg

[slim mortar]

i thought it just pip

[foggy perch]

I've had a default pfp since discord released

Back when Skype > discord

[ebon quiver]

ive had ur mom since u were born

got em

jkj k

ill proly switch

@foggy perch

[late kestrel]

recruiter?

[foggy perch]

Nice

[late kestrel]

theyre the first to go no?

[austere grove]

We are doomed

[ebon quiver]

u thikn i got offer tho

[late kestrel]

oh daddy

[ebon quiver]

can i dm u

[late kestrel]

uh oh

[austere grove]

https://tenor.com/view/doomer-doomer-sad-depressed-gif-15543940

[foggy perch]

Probably but most likely waitlist

[late kestrel]

sure why not

[ebon quiver]

😦

but like

im p sure the team needs people

why else are they interviewing

[foggy perch]

I've only seen non waitlist people in less popular cities so far like Austin and Denver

[ebon quiver]

like its for a specific team its not general

[foggy perch]

Oh

Idk then

[kind galleon]

bird L

[azure zephyr]

was tiktok oa auto?

[kind galleon]

prob is

[fair zinc]

same

[kind galleon]

lolol

[foggy perch]

Yall got duolingo oa but didn't do it?

[distant rampart]

i just got it

[foggy perch]

Rip

[ebon quiver]

wait

[kind galleon]

ya

[ebon quiver]

imc is STILL HIRRING

wwhat the fuck

[kind galleon]

eh didnt want duolingo that badl ytho

[ebon quiver]

gotta be shiting

[foggy perch]

Imc oa is auto right

[kind galleon]

but still sucks

[ebon quiver]

give me

[foggy perch]

I think so

[crude saffron]

Last year people were getting offers in dec

[foggy perch]

Duolingo pay to col ratio unironically king tho

200k in bumfuck nowhere pittsburgh

[last summit]

yea but the catch is you gotta be in bumfuck nowhere pittsburgh

[azure zephyr]

are you target school?

[foggy perch]

u right

[sour night]

What’s a good pay for HCOL like NYC

[mossy niche]

0k

[late kestrel]

$5 maybe $10

[foggy perch]

Meh duolingo recruits from non target schools just a lot less likely

[last summit]

whats duolingo's NG offer

[kind galleon]

idk tbh

[foggy perch]

Approx 200k

[kind galleon]

ya tbh duolingo offer is rly good

[foggy perch]

I think

[fair zinc]

Duolingo sucks

[kind galleon]

but like idk the product isnt that exciting

[foggy perch]

Ik return interns are getting like 215k

[fair zinc]

only gave 5 days to complete OA

[kind galleon]

ya

[foggy perch]

Gotta just Yolo those oa

[kind galleon]

i didnt realize it was a hard deadline

also

well IMC had exploding 2 day oa

[azure zephyr]

im assuming you prob have other offers

[kind galleon]

before

[fair zinc]

same. I asked for an extension for 4 times

Duolingo sucks

[azure zephyr]

i say anything 120k+ is above average

yes

[late kestrel]

here come the out of touch cs kids 👀

[azure zephyr]

lets be real yall get out of the top 1% cs bubble 😂

and i still double down on 120k

[teal jackal]

you probably want at least 120k base to live comfortably in nyc

[azure zephyr]

^

[teal jackal]

even then your savings rate will suck

[ebon quiver]

is it normal for ur amazon interviewer

to j go on his phone

[azure zephyr]

obv im talking about base salary

[ebon quiver]

during the interview

[shrewd ocean]

we want to retire early

[ebon quiver]

like r u friggin srs

ima hurt this dude

[late kestrel]

doesnt c1 pay like $140k in nyc? and c1 is one of the better if not the best non techs

so yeah id say 120k is a good average

[azure zephyr]

yeah i think they're like 150k right? TC

[mossy niche]

C1 upped

their pay bands

it's 145k in chicago now

[azure zephyr]

if you get 120k base in nyc thats rly good, obv theres outliers like quant

but idk maybe im just being delusional hahaha

[mossy niche]

Im pretty sure its

160-170 now

Yea in Nyc and SF

[fervent drift]

This morning right?

[mossy niche]

Lemme check my friend got the offer

[late kestrel]

i didnt think they got that high this year

[mossy niche]

What was ur offer

NYC?