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Maybe I need to clear my cache or something since I have it toggled to on. Will try that thanks.
ive had dark side for a while now but it still doesnt change the problem page at all
now that you say that mines bugged af too
like I have the new UI in the menus and problem list, but if I go to any problem specifically then its the old ui
looks like youre not in the treatment
yeah same thats what dark side has been for weeks/months
oh really
😎
bro flexport has sent me 4 email reminders ab my phone today in the past 24 hours
i get it i get it
they want u dawg
they dont know imma fail this shit so hard 
Were you able to fix it? I cleared cache and cookies and nothing 
nope lmao
Maybe it's because we have Premium accounts 
how long after bloomberg phone until you hear if you made it to next stage or not
if i just apply without referrals what are the chances they send OA or give interview?
Where do u apply for Apple new grad? Can't find New Grad specific application anywhere?
no clue but if you find it let me know
I hope ur recruiter’s email doesn’t start with AA, shes been ghosting people
but from other ppl I’ve heard 1wk
uuuuuhhhhhh
let me check my emails rn
SF 😎
Wonder if meta new grad roles will still open in October lol
If they open new grad roles, I expect them to open at the start of 2023
Where can i get recruiter emails
Think someone said they plan on opening it in October at tapia
has shopify opened yet
Anyone do a netflix onsite?
thats all the problems hes solved on youtube, he said he'd include it for ez access
ayeee i have that
nice qol add
i have his pro
icky wicky
I love NeetCode
same, i love how he explains problems
Yeah because it’s impractical to memorize code
If you can understand the process it’s way easier
indeed, also is pltr a good app? like should i go for it or no
my first scheduled technical (phone) interview, it's for bloomberg new grad 😅 I'm screwed lmao
always go for everything fam
anyone got the leetcode update?
u miss 100% of the shots u never take
At this economy if you had a low ball offer would you take it or wait it out until more companies open up their new grad application?
nice lets drink coffee and do an app spree
applying for ng in late sep is late as fuck isnt it
no specific info but return offer deadlines are early oct so maybe around then?
you know, in a high interest rate environment the places that tend to do the best are banks and trading firms
already did mine but if ur buying me a coffee ill just do lc on the side

How’s your apps going? I’m finding it hard to even find places to apply to at this point lol
i dont think banks doing well will reflect on tc, trading firms on the other hand...
banks will likely increase performance bonuses
but fr can someone answer my question, is doing an app spree late sep like hella late?
My recruiter says they agree with you
Will meta rescind ng offers?
eh, like i've applied to a bunch but i check linkedin jbos daily for new postings
cant change anything, just spam now, better later than never
i like how meta went from like top 3 faang to contender for worst faang in a single year
A bunch of LCers aren’t gonna know
You mean return offers?
i've got a few OAS sitting in my inbox so im really tryna grind hard to get caught up to my LC skill set
I've got like 6 to do and 2 of them are hirevue which I really don't want to do lmao
ehhh I think that's an optimistic prediction
BlackRock OA really made me hate hirevue platform for coding
I’m at ~105 apps or so but honestly my response rate isn’t much different from last season even with an internship
oooof, good luck my g - thats ur foot in the door so its kinda blessed
LOL yo same
at least i didnt get insta rejected by okta this time
Where did u apply for Apple?
Bloomberg and c1 let me pass the screen this time. I will say that.
Same, have never not been ghosted by them
@outer radish if I get BB and you come to NYC I’ll actually get you coffee
no because performance bonuses are directly tied to profitably/performance, it's just on like 10-20% of your TC scale at banks and not 100+% like at trading firms
bro if u get bb can you actually refer me
like i'll actually pull up for the coffee
shit ill even contribute to paying for 1
I've got BB final next week in person. Apparently gonna be done on a whiteboard, first time whiteboarding for me
btw what's everyone's advice for being super cracked at LC but with only like 2/3 weeks
i'm so sad bb doesn't even pay for referring people smh
Yeah I don’t think I have problems with giving referrals if I was ever in the position to give one lol
I don't think that's possible lol
Everyone I know that's super cracked at LC has been doing it for a while
yeah its usually a net gain i feel
Ehh they pay well and wlb is good. That’s good enough for me.
maybe
Depends, where are you at now
i feel like my handle on DSA in general is pretty solid tho
finished DFS, BFS, two pointer, sliding window on grokking - kinda struggle with DFS sometimes because of recursion
Can i get a bb referral they rejected me
i'll probs have to see what bb wlb actually entails
but im solid on the other three
since im tryna maximize C++ learning and see where I go from there
Usual advice is neetcode 150 and study patterns. I like to use anki flashcards where I just put the problem statement and the pattern to solve it.
you can't get "cracked" but if you already have some DSA experience and muscle through like 40+ problems, you're odds of passing the technical will go from like 20% to like 50%
At the end, there’s gonna be RNG too.
I got resume reject from bb mfs didnt even give me oa and resume is decent to atleast get oa
Yeah just do as much of where you're weak at
meh you can get cracked enough to solve LC Easy/Medium (Not DP) if you just grind out neetcode 150 or blind 75
Well BB doesn't do oa
I think what can help with DFS recursion in general is taking problems and physically drawing the recursive call stack. It took me a while for it to fully click for me
yeee thats the plan rn
Man why bb is it because of sponsorship
yeah i think this is prob a good idea, i was thinking of tracing the simpler ones
or smaller test cases i mean
would it be stupid to apply for ng and internships to the same company
i think people over-estimate how hard it is to get good at LC
Also I've really enjoyed binarysearch.com for just rapid fire seeing a lot of problems
everyone says 3 months to get good at LC but i feel like 1 is fine if you're going all out
That's what I thought lol, how are you gonna apply to the same company and have different grad dates without looking sus
just depends what standard you use for good tbh
I agree. It’s really just the first 10 questions I feel like
Is all out 3+ h/day?
if you mean Easy/Medium (Not DP) it's doable
It takes years in all honesty
if you want to get good at LC Hard, DP, and Greedy problems it's a lot more rough
imo
i say good is like 50% chance of getting through an interview or higher
BS is pretty great, but I heard that site maintainers don't really want to maintain it much longer
Yeah but to get good enough to interview, it’s really not bad it seems like
meh to me good means like 70-80% success rate at technicals
"cracked" is like you walk into any technical interview, slam you're dick on the table and then move to the next round
LMAO
I think it depends on how smart you are first off and then secondly what your school teaches and how far you into your schools DSA circulmn. I tried to LC during my second ever programming course at uni having 0 previous experience before college and it felt impossible
That’s my question
How quickly should I email my bb recruiter abt reminding him I have an pending offer. I don’t want to sound pushy but my offer deadline in on Monday and I just finished my EM round lol
yeah having a DSA foundation before grinding LC is pretty critical imo
Should've just been leetcoding since middle school, would've been trivial by now smh
How was EM?
like there's no point in just doing LC problems if you don't remember your search/sort algorithms or dp imo
Chill I got lucky my EM was super nice unlike some others in the discord
same
like me hearing the bb EM stories people are posting in chat is crazy to me lmao
for me my guy was super chill
was your guy an EM that worked at BB for 20+ years too
Yeah but I think that's where the difficulty comes from like imagine you've been working for 5 years without any coursework or are self taught. Like it's already hard AF for me at least now but it's brutal if the material isn't fresh
Did u hear back yet?
Nah 10+
oh ye I've been at verbal offer for a while
I'm just waiting for them to finalize the offer letter
How long after EM did u hear back?
i feel like i've had terrible rng not just in interviews but in life the last like decade or so
why tf is there a recession happening for the first time in like 15 years right when im graduating
like bruh
Gotchu u think it’s worth sending a follow-up to my recruiter even tho I had mine today? I to accept/decline my offer from from another company by Monday
Skill issue
might as well
nothing to lose
True
it's definitely a skill issue on my part that Meta isn't hiring
I don't know why but sometimes I panic about how much rng their is in technical interviews and just getting hired in general. Like lets say you have 70% chance of passing any given technical interview. Like their is someone out there who just has gotten absolutely shafted on 30 interviews in a row
You see it
I also got another offer since I talked to my recruiter. Is it worth telling them rn or should I tell them after I get my offer (if I do)?
Nah tell them at nego stage
i literally have a meta refferal from someone but i can't use it cuz there's no job openings to use it for
Yeah makes sense ty!
Yeah I could get a Meta referral as well(doubt I'd pass) but can't use it anyways
the question for me is how long does the recession last
like does hiring go back to normal next year
or is it gonna be like this til like 2025
Anyone completed Samara OA?
it's just the GCA
What is GCA?
general coding assesment
codesignal
codesignal
code signal, it's 4 questions, the first 2 are gimmes, the 3rd is an implementation heavy question that's straightforward but has a lot of code, and the 4th is a tricky algo problem that needs to be optimal
would u guys pick amazon or forward?
forward
just amazon, forward is still tbd
whys that
oh u chillin than
but i want more 
bro
but amazon or forward?
u gotta leave some for the rest up lmao, we picking at scraps here
i would say go to amazon for 1-2 years until they start waving the pip stick and hop
id say amazon, good upward mobility and safety
thats what im thinking, forward is too risky for a ng
its good for a first, entry level job
look into their wlb on blind
just work both 4head

if its an early startup they might work u harder than amazon lmao
wlb isnt that important for me i dont mind grinding my first few years
forward might look better than amazon on my resume
there was a guy who accepted like 20-30 offers and it took months before he got caught but he made over a million dollars
plus its already on my resume as i interned at amazon
this my goal but with senior roles when im 30
homie trying to retire in a year
exactly
if working a bunch of entry roles simulataneously for a few month is enough to bring in a 1 mil, imagine what the money would be if it were senior roles
obvsly you'd never get hired ever again
but who cares
U got zon return?
Definitely Amazon over Forward. Check out @chilly burrow 's experience with Forward
#2023_grads message
What’s the comp for forward?
just take the amazon return offer and be rich smh
you basically got 200k tc from being a return intern
verbally
nah fam
are they even a unicorn
u gotta sign the docusign before confimring anything
or are they way earlier stage startup
just hit unicorn status last yr
Then u golden. I wish i got return too lol
huh
I'd only choose Forward if you could somehow Nego their non-fake money TC to be close to Amazon
i might take it if they match base of sf zon return
i hate the federal reserve so much
isnt base around 150 with tc around 200
I'd probs want them to match a bit more than that since amazon stock + bonus is real money too
since you can sell it
something like that
id say amazon stock is p gud rn, prob going to dip for a bit more but youll def get money back in a few years
so id argue for more as well
ngl id say ppl at forward are smarter than amazon
How is hrt codesignal ?
so thats what im also considering lol
normal
Is it just normal codesignal ?
I'm seeing some weird outliers on levels. Like it's from 85-120 and then theirs a couple 0 years exp 140-170
Does zon still project at 15% yoy increase
and solve the hidden fifth problem
not sure atm but id say any blue chip is good
especially if they are paying by total value and not by amount
does anyone know what samsara's cut off is?
yea thats what im wonderin
also theyre not hiring rn are they :p
hardly see anyone talk about them here
question for you guys, if someone is unsure if they can do question 4 on code signal, but am sure that they can do question 3, should they just do question 3
bcuz getting 1, 2, and 3, is better than getting 1 and 2, not finishing 4 and then not having enough time for 4
damn finally got a reply from optiver
they'll consider for austin texas
chicago is backed tf up
this a good sign ?
is akidev's lab a scam
How long does it take to get a response from IMC after their one way interview?
wut? can you get a score over 850?
Yeah easily
amazon. stay far away from forward.
shit. samsara does not accept a gca prior to april 2 so I did a new one and only got 849
whys that? ive only heard negative things about the interview process
rain forest vs onward
a company's interview process reflects on the company
i see, like i didnt have a single bad interaction so far for me at least
forward gives the vibe they want you to die for the company
i really liked everyone i spoke to
Nah better off spending as much time as you can to try to solve 4 and skipping 3 bc that still gets you into the 800’s. Only solving 1,2,3 is 750-790
i wouldn't risk it personally, i imagine the wlb will be terrible and idk if its worth the trade off, plus i heard TC is 120k in san fran, amzn will have higher offer
theres like an extra 100k in paper money
lol

ah i see
but yeah base is p low
well it seems like youre leaning more towards forward then
i think the people at forward are def smarter than amazon
at least the younger folks
120k base is good, just idk if its worth for what i feel like theyll put you through
what do you care about most when picking your first job? learning? career progression?
but it seems like a lot of cut offs are high 700s not 800
wtf is this post HAHAHAHA
hmm probably learning
but then again amazon feels like a great place to learn as well lol
is amazon good learning
just me or does it feel like coderquad dried up
yeah
cuz they throw u on the deep end
and u gotta teach urself lol
it feels like it barely gets updated
because theres not as much to update it with anymore
i know will wang the goat himself who actively updates the board is in this channel
if u see this will youre actually goated
joy
"youre ugly. how do i know? educated guess" 😭😭😭😭
well it does seem like you'd learn a lot at forward
low tc itsover
is roblox still interviewing? i finally got a 800+ codesignal
what to expect in morgan stanley hirevue video interview ?
i just emailed them for extension on the assessments and they responded instantly with a two week extension so maybe they are still interviewing?
what is the general cutoff for roblox? is 820 good enough?
shoot okay, i only did one of the cognitive assessments before i was like fuck this lmao
Codesignal is almost always before resume screen
So yes they highly consider resume
whenever i placed my resume in their matcher thing it said i was a strong match
For citadel interview, do you have to interview in C++?
Who, only places I can think of are pinterest and databricks this year
Databricks isn't doing codesignal this year for new grads
So not even
Never applied to Pinterest tho so i guess they could
then pinterest main place I know that gives it after resume screen then
Nah apparently it's resume screen then str8 to phone
I think they still resume screen after no?
I thot i saw som ppl complain getting rejects with 800s
i don't think so tbh
holy shit that first round was explained SOO AWFULLY
I thought those people were rejected at phone screen
I could be wrong though
Anyone else getting ghosted by JPMC despite doing OA weeks ago? Did they meet headcount too?
the way I've seen it is Pinterest resume screen -> Codesignal -> If your codesignal is > 820 you're basically guaranteed for phone, or if you get < 800 you might get phone with a super good resume
Wait nvm i tink u right
I was mistaken
Did OA more than a month ago, no response
I'm dming you rn. At least someone to share in my misery if you got the same question LOL
i swear they just delete half the resumes before even looking through them
someone internally told me you need 840+ or really good cognitive test scores, then they do resume review
I'm waiting as well but its only been a week
i second that
Got 100% on OA and same
they just sent me an email today telling my they reviewed my resume and would like to go further and that i have two weeks for the assessments
i applied a month ago lol
niceeee
Yeah it’s weird because the email I got seems informational more so than something to pass
Sus
wdym
as in the email you got before Phone screen?
no that's what I was thinking of
I was saying to me the recruiter phone felt informational
but apparently people get rejected after recruiter phone
Yeah like I got an email to schedule the recruiter phone
ye
And the email made it seem like the convo was going to be informational
yeah
Haven’t had it yet
and that's what it felt like to me lmao
for the interview ?
but ig they care about some of your answers
so why the gift card
Hmm I guess if there wasn’t a possibility of rejection they would just move you straight to technical?
Otherwise why have an informational call when it could be an email
But idk what they would be looking for lol
Never used Pinterest
Thanks for filling out a survey at said conference
What do they ask during the recruiter phone?
my condolences
Y?
to me it was just basic stuff like yo why do you like CS
or yo what do you know about pinterest
because they ghosted you ?
Ahh gotcha
As an intern in previous cycles
Seems hella arbitrary then
honestly I think the recruiter phone is just a vibe check lmao
Oh ya lol
I even cold emailed
But nothing 😭
The only company I'd consider taking over my current offer too
i hope that uber eats food hits brother
Piss?
yes pls dont
Is it fine to do the Citadel on-site in Java? for the technical round I was asked to do it in Python
It’s sfw don’t worry
I don't believ u
anyone else get the cap1 waitlist email
does Tesla do new-grad specific applications or do ppl just apply to whichever jobs they fit the requirements of? There's like 15000 postings on their website
I just apply to all of the ones that dont require previous years of experience
Tips on preparing for the capital one power day? Heard that they don't do much leetcode
tbh i feel like it feels hopeless to apply for companies that arent explicitly hiring new grads in masses
anyone have any tips on prepping for the roblox process
uhh when I interviewed from internship I got a lc hard so def prep
like i cant imagine fighting with so many people over a single position
Definitely, but I heard they do other stuff too, so leetcode alone might not be enough
I failed an interview with them before
I see
I have a bunch of time, my interview is dec 8
Yeah I scheduled a while back, guess they were getting backed up even then
Good luck!
whens yours again?
No LC this year, at least for ng
Confirmed by 5 different people (including me) who did powerday
tbh local companies seem more stressful than big name ones
since big name companies have the resources to train their SWEs
But yeah last yr there was a linked list hard
Can you get rejected after IMC hr call they been ghosting me
Yes
hi friend
Also for citadel onsite interviews is it better to go in person or virtual or does it not matter
:o
I'm not on campus
fuck lmaol
😅
italy elected a far right nutjob as their government
im probably gonna renounce my italian citizenship instead of renew my long expired passport
anti romani racism there is also hella cringe
ill probably do that after i get a job
Just ood then? That's what I heard
is there a diff btwn OOD and sys design?
It’s like a practical
Not ood (no classes)
Just write some methods
How would you study for that and the case interview then?
I bungled those last year
Case u can’t rly study for its not too hard tho this ur at least
FYI there’s 3 coding bugs to catch in the case so catch them all
Technical just know how to use hashmaps
That’s all I used
i guess most of what i thought was sysdesign is actually OOD
Is the technical an algorithmic test like codesignal q4?
No way
Significantly easier
Q2 difficulty
Oh ok then, that doesn't sound too bad then
Yeah it’s really not bad at all
🤞 for the offer
But yeah like they’ll tell u if u got it right and stuff (at least my interviewer did)
anyone have that graph that shows the average codesignal score based on which questions you answered
I remember messing up the case interview pretty bad at least, needed the interviewer to feed me issues to think of while designing a syatem
Ya 1 sec
No sys design
Just debugging+discussing pros and cons of testing
dang roblox rejections going crazy today
looking like roblox final is like <10% success rate or something
Yeah I didn’t get LeetCode at all for my power day
My technical was more of like a simplified real world problem
where you make like 4 different functions one at a time to solve a larger problem
it was actually pretty straightforward, and like a fun inteview
Yeah all TDP this year have the same technical
if a recruiter tells me to go through their connections on linkedin, how do I ask the recruiter to introduce me to some of her connects
really? That’s crazy
thanks

Yep I was super surprised when I got the exact question my friend had sent me
So goated lol
Did you get the offer?
Nicee
Good luck to both of you!
Yeah
My case interviewer was hella rude in the beginning lowkey but then at the end he said u did a great job so idk
Like at the beginning he was just ignoring my questions
Did you go to a case interview prep?
Nah
That’s goood
Been debating going to one if I could fit it in my schedule
I scheduled one, but needed up skipping
Ya idk what it could rly teach
Same
They explained everything I needed in the actual interview
Cause apparently on the recuiter prep call they said the content is on YouTube already
so I just watched the YouTube video
Only thing was this dude had a thicc accent so it was hard to understand
Which basically just said ask question and communicate
Ngl I got Scared after I watched that video but it was nothing like it.
That video was hella involved
that video was so scripted
yeah for sure
does c1 call to reject
the video is misleading
Exactly
Also would like to know
I would imagine no
But also I think the technical case is diff than analytical case

yeah th videos were for business people
I DIDNT see any tech one
anyone fail c1 powerday in the chat? did you get emailed or called?
Just gotta dm ppl who processed reject


I’m mad scared ngl

I need this

Are you referring to the technical and case interview playlist? It was attached in the interview confirmation email
yeah
Noted, thanks
if you do it lmk... i dont wanna double dm someone lol
FYI
Nah I’m not gonna so feel free
Pic>word
fourth task is mando
either that is new or outdated
task 4 is mando for a good score
Has anyone tried to get a 300
@slate bobcat just got an invitation to set up a 15 min call “powerday follow up”
and you had your pd today? damn
what the hell idk how I feel about this LC redesign
bloomberg just sent me an email to reschedule
it's not even a "reschedule" email it's like they lost their old schedule data 😂
Literally just did it like a couple mins ago lol
can i dm u
Sure but it was 5% better TC, pretty trash. Used top down dp
stripe vs databricks vs anyscale
Submit absolutely nothing
Basically the fnaf mediocrity ending
Why so LOL
Anyscale is basically Databricks 2.0
It's extremely early
Great upside
Stripe is overvalued afaik (even with it's current valuation cut)
So imo Anyscale > Databricks > Stripe
They're all very good
i think anyscale wlb is absolutely atrocious though, so keep that in mind
But Anyscale has the most upside potential imo
Isn't DB and Stripe pretty bad as well tho?
i think so, but relatively speaking i think anyscale is worse
I kno som1 at Stripe who says they work 60hr weeks minimum
Oh damn dats bad
i think stripe is kinda team dependent cuz its so big, but anyscale is pretty bad across the board
thats fair tyty, i know personally stripe is very team dependent but anyscale + db errs on the side of bad wlb
a friend of mine interviewed and said all of his interviewers looked dead inside and dodged the question when asked about wlb 💀
yea for sure, but like @chilly burrow anyscale has potential for crazy upside
much higher potential than db and stripe, but prob more risk too
Tbh I think there's not that much risk
It's the same story as DB
true, i dont think they will fail, by risk i mean waiting like a decade for ipo
For anyscale, I think the risk is a bit lower, but any liquidation event will be years away at least
im assuming they have a strong cash component regardless
Open source project made by the same dude as DB
So there'll def be vc interest
Does anyone know how long they take to get back to you
yea true, risk wasnt the right word, more of super long time to liquidate stonks
Say I'm there for you~, but I'm out of time
@jade ruin congrats on the offers though, i heard anyscale final was brutal
its been a month since i applied to databricks new grad swe and i havent heard back, not even OA... is this normal?
No oa
They go str8 to phone after resume screen
Also they have a very high bar
does sound kind of peculiar, most people got either rejected super fast or given a phone
took about a week for me
I think I did pretty well but you never know
Like multiple FAANG bar
I'd say
Or relevant experience
Bullshit?
just rng
What FAANG?
if you go to an early stage company like anyscale, are you trapped there until they ipo or get acquired? which cant take years?
cant be getting a new job every 1/2 years then
not really, I think most pre-ipo companies allow you to keep your options
tho you may not be able to participate in internal buybacks
for like 3 months no?
Nah, most allow you to keep them forever*
You gotta exercise within certain time frame I think you can hold stocks tho
Yep, you may be forced to exercise tho true
I gotta exercise within 6months of leaving 😭
Retool is killing it tho
I'd exercise
drw codility is hard
i got rejected within 24 hours with zon 🤣
twitter and meta
dumb i got ghosted. even worse
lot of vidos on youtube
Tbh I know a guy who had Google and Snowflake who got rejected
Did anyone attempt Intuit coding challenge on karat platform?
So it's tough out there
databricks dum af
i applied 200+ places
and i have gotten 14 oa/interview
Ya you would think Snowflake would get him in
I only got an offer thanks to a techfair
what offer
since when are tech fairs worth it
I meant compared to a public company
Greylock Techfair, which was super worth imo
oh nice havent heard of it congrats
M is always there
isnt
Ehhhh
they opened for like 5 days and closed right back uo
Who knows 🤷♂️
Google? Yeah.
Experience
250k tech vs 350k quant swe, what would y'all pick
tech for me
i'd choose the latter
Wait why
but if it's over 400 i'll go quant
How much money would it take for you to change that answer
Hm
If you're after career progression, you probably don't care about wlb all that much
i think people overrate the speed at which tech salaries catch up to quant
I feel like it takes a while and by the time you reach the 10-20 year mark quant people will have probs made way more
or even are retired
I wanna do tech too
But it'll be really hard to say no to 100k
for quant it depends on how good you are, for swe @ quant the difference isn’t as high unless you get into super elite firms
true, when I hear quant I assume people mean the super elite ones like Jane Street, Hudson River, Old Mission, etc.
yea^^^
Yeah assume elite quants, lol
exactly
you can hit a 1mil bonus (arbitrary number) if you make enough for the firm as a quant, this is near impossible as a swe
Yeah QR salaries are ridiculous if you're good
But believe me tech people are paid really well too, especially at high freq desks
Like 2020 bonuses were insane
eh even quant swe make a good chunk
yea for sure, no question
You'd be surprised if you look at 2020 numbers.
i probably would be, but i’m making more of a blanket statement which is probably inherently flawed
Which isn't the norm, but there is gonna be recession soon hopefully lol
can you give me a example 2020 number to surprise me
include YOE if possible
I know 2 cit swes with 3 yoe that got 1M+ bonus in 2020
f that's thick
Low latency teams
I assume they'll get similar this year
Does databricks call to reject
This is bs
i think for your case specifically it comes down to interest. if you like tech and want to stay in it, you certainly won’t be broke
but if you want to chase the bigger quant bag more power to you
Oh I thought it was call only to reject
Yes, people jumping from and to each other are common
Will that be a career setback tho
yea quant firms definitely headhunt from tech heavily, but you have it in hand now and it’s hard to pass up if you want to go in that direction
going from one to the other probably takes some adjustment, but i’m sure it’s not too bad
i don’t have any experience in this front 
idk how many people would know, but it’s worth a shot
Is datadog worth considering over google?
Depends on what teams
imo no
Just catered lunch on a few days
mans lowered google's bar and still got a return
outside of a much much better team, i don’t see what datadog has over google
imaginative stock upside
perhaps 
sorry I mean stock upside only in imagination
wtf is this Lucid OA bro
haha yea i got you
yea imo it’s a no factor in all seriousness
google tc non nego is i thibk higher than ddog by 10k first yeah atleast. don't know recurring google tc
also ddog has catered lunch mondays wednesdays fridays but they serve leftovers tuesday thursday from the previous day
The intern return offer yes
Holy shit it's the mod
Even normal fulltime i might consider. Look into their culture. If u like office life good food and i guess u think team will be good
Datadog is great
From what i hear
Honestly take the $
And keep eye on stock. Ddog seems thriving and stable tho
If it was bad then G
True but google doing wack things like slashing budget for business travel
Before u know it they not serving food they are serving lunchables
That's um
Better than laying off 11% of their workforce
anyone know the capital one process?
@nocturne oriole would love ur advice, can i pls dm if that's cool with u 🙏
OA then final
Ok lol i gotchu
My advice is always the same hit the gym and eat garbage
saw people getting amazon offers, are they pulling people off the waitlist??
love u bro
I think their product is solid. Idek if the valuation is right and all that stuff lol
hey i need advice too
i was wondering how to be less cool and fun and approachable
its just so exhausting being so popular
and having so many ppl that love me
join toelands
4 year average for google NG is 200.38k in NYC and Bay. It’s 220k first year w/relocation
congrats now nobody loves you everyones jealous of that 800k+ TC
The vibe at Datadog seemed chill
but does the money jiggle

I literally live across the street from the Datadog office in NYC. I did not know it was there till someone told me cuz it’s in The NY Times building
It’s a pretty lit area
And Microsoft NYC is also there
2 streets down
ahh. for ddog return interns the avg over 4 years is 187.5. so yeah there's a tc difference
I interned at ddog and google
Tbh they are both super similar. Ddog is like a mini google lol.
yooo that's the prefect person to help u
lmao wow this server is goated
THATS THE SAME INPRESSION I GOT FROM THE INTERVIEWS
how well do you need to do on gca to pass seatgeek
Wtf
i interned at fb and meta
btw
once when they were fb and then after when they turned into meta
like we can find someone in here working at any company ez
But I think we can also find someone who jumped from A to B for any A, B
@dire ore i would probably just go to the team/manager you like more 🙂
By mini-google you mean it’s just google with less bureaucracy
Yep exactly
@echo finch can you quickly interview and get an offer
LMFAO on it bestie 
Old team at google seemed like there was a lot of stuff to do. Our org was created like a year ago so everything that was being done was new
It wasn’t rest and vest for sure tho
Read the internal google Blind
lmao
@dire ore did you accept google return offer?
PA matching tho my manager guaranteed me an offer once headcount is decided in 2-3 weeks
I’d say when are you available to start is a good sign
What PA
why not accept roblox and renege if g gives u offer
Yeah it can go that high
You need a counter offer right?
Do they match upto 280k automatically?
hi guys
Like if you submit a 280+ offer
i have a question
Depends if the competing offer has IPOed or not
Or is all cash
They discount paper money. Someone for example with 297k stripe offer will get a counter offer of 274k from Google. This is a real datapoint
Roblox recruiter responded to me. Just asked an update to an random recruiter
Internal said this was cap so idk
what's an MK?
and how do they know if it's cap
idk what an MK is but the milk thing from the fridge isn't true
That's atleast what a few people in mountainview were saying
how would you know
not like people are tracking who's going to the fridge 24/7 right
Each person in office would go to the fridge, check if it has half full milk
or CCTV
I just asked the recruiter when will i receive update after oa. He said within 2 weeks.

but also why're people assuming it's mountainview
and why would they check CCTV just because someone chugged milk from the fridge lmao
Us Seattle/Kirkland folk barely have access to the offices
Handshake
aren't there plenty of other offices tho
like nyc, austin, etc.
lmao i'm just saying
dang that's pretty good
this seems like a hard thing to disprove happening at least somewhere
in a google office with how many there are
They also discount sign-on bonus, I had 350k at Cit with a large chunk of it being signon so my Seattle offer ended up at 265k
wtf lol
lmfao idk
Isn’t that max band for Seattle
350k != 265, sign on or not
you can nego base for cit but it's not the norm
Tbh I'm not even sure what the thought process was for the number I received, they just said they reviewed it with the team and boom
Cuz in Bay Area the max is like 280ish
max bands like 270k now I think, this is from last year
I started this Aug
man likes tech
I'm pretty open with it no worries
I had a lot of reasons. WLB, internal mobility and future career trajectory were major players
Can't you just go back to tech after 2-3 years anyway?
or is it more about wlb in that regard
Like wasn't leaving ~100K hard
swe?
Yeah
What is it 👀
Won’t say exact but somewhere in the range 450-550k
It’s crazy
Depends on interview perf
damn I'd do a lot of things for 450-550k a year
Apparently his citadel final interview was a joke too
2 mediums and 1 basic system design interview
meh quant trader pay being super high makes sense to me
since if you fuck up you just get insta fired right
I think they don't even get to trade for like 6-8mo
not rly
Man I hope my cit interview is a joke too 
dang
maybe I'll try to job hop to HFT once I get better at C++ and systems
since they care a lot about C++, systems, and linux stuff in hft swe interviews right
what's expected promo velocity for new grads at google?
y’all said google starts interviewing late september
passed w/ 807
Average 2.5 years
to midlevel??
holy lol
dang imagine being the 1 year guy
I imagine they must've had yoe elsewhere or smthing
Has anyone gotten Final Round request after 2 VO rounds from bloomberg? The title of the email says final round request but it's 45 min with a senior engineer. Doesn't mention anything about engineering manager. Anyone know whats up? Idk if this is my EM round or if I didn't do well enough in VO so they want an additional VO round
so at datadog, to midlevel it's usually a year to a year and a half (according to my recruiter). but return interns have gotten it in a year or "within a year" according to my manager's manager. idk how accurate it is or if he was just tryna entice me to come back lol but ya
sounds like EM round
Probably true tho the stats I got were from internal google stats rather than from a recruiter
I’m pretty suspect of recruiters nowadays
I’d imagine it is pretty slow tho
IIRC the people who got promoted in 1 year from l3 ->l4 is a extremely small number
job of a recruiter is just to bait you in after all
Like ~2% of the l3s who GOT promoted that year did it in 1 year. Not just the entire population of l3s
ya very true
the benefit is l4 at google holds much more weight than l4 at most other places
Has anyone given Expedia new grad 2023 OA ?
did you get q4 or no
kinda hoping 780 is good enough for some places
but I do want to try another codesignal sometime for a company that won't dick me lol
Now that's hella funny
Since they resume screen first
I'd suck horse nuts for 450k tc tbh
What’s the interview process like for citadel?
pretty good credit score
oh lmao
Applied to pinterest on september 12th and no OA, am I SOL?
well its been almost 3 weeks
OA, tech phone, 3 round final
is there system design on the final?
yes
Yes
fuk
Seems like a lot of people got it after 2 weeks just not sure if anyone got it a little longer
GCP and TI like u
A GROUP system design

can someone link seat geek app?
r u not capable of google?
no, thats too hard 
is there any way to tell if palantir hm will be technical or behavioral?
Just got app rejected and I don't understand
hey can someone help me w this?
Compute the crc checksum for:
data: 10101010
generator: x^6 + x^2 + 1
Me neither on god
nro
bro
has anyone noticed
in the past few days
there has been no major newgrad app release from any companies
agree
Same supply of new grads, less demand
Oh yeah I was bitching about that earlier lol
Are you studying in Georgia tech?
I am
Nice
Really only 1 of 2 outcomes
- New financial year comes, budgets are renewed TC refills to come extent (good ending)
- New financial year comes, budgets are rebalances against a stalling economy and ongoing inflation, and a decision is made to kill the TC for new grads for the upcoming FY, or at least for the upcoming 1st half.
I'm actually here for a course project lol
Oh yeah 100%
even more, with those ppl that didnt get ROs
NG roles will def go first to current interns, and if there are any left then new grad
haven't heard of anyone who got an offer from any FAANG
But if HC goes down, then chances of any left over is even less
I think a lot of us who can't get a big n company will be killing each other over the better local companies in late season
unless returned
Rip to those who didn't expect this cycle to be that doomed and apply later in the cycle
yeah holy shit, i am not ready
Some people have been getting amazon offers
do people think that the 1-2 year job hop will be cutthroat too?
or is that just the bubble of cscd
from where
because i feel like a lot of people here will be unhappy with their result and be motivated to try harder
so probably
Assuming I sign with AT&T it's not like I can go anywhere, locking up my 401k match until I work 3 years 
whats ur offer deets for at&t bro
microsoft is rly good

