#2023_grads
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has anyone taken pinterest phone yet
recruiter or technical?
technical
I have mine on friday
Bois, I got rekt during Bloomberg Phone cuz the interviewer just hates me. Q1 I got ordered stream, its a LC easy, I just did it 2 days ago too. Finished in 5 mins, the guy pretended he doesnt understand for straight 20 mins, then had random ass follows that dont make sense and keep accusing my solution being sub optimal. like what the actual f. I ran out of time for Q2, cuz Q2 only had like 5 mins left, just talked high level logic. i am fucked right?
think ur issue is that u finished in 5 mins
its not about finishing fast
u need to like walk thru ur solution before u even start coding
run thru some examples
jeez what is going with bloomberg
everyones always having interviews not show up or theyre assholes
me too lmaoo
BRO ITS 20 lines of code! I talked algo out loud before I coded, he agreed it works. I coded, guy says he doesnt understand. I did like 5 sets of dry run
trust me if im not a noob at coding interviews
my bb interview also didnt understand my solution lol
then thats just unlucky
i did like 3 dry runs to convince him
like if this is a complex problem i can understand if u dont understand. Design an ordered stream is so fking simple. How in the world do u manage to not understand if u worked at bbg for 10 years and cant understand this
Mine was a trainwreck too. I didn't finish as fast but they were arguing that my solution was wrong when it wasn't too. I was so confused on what to do. Like do i try to prove to the interviewer that they are wrong or do i just accept that I'm going to lose points even though I'm right
lowkey everyone is just tripping about getting ghosted by bloomberg they are just slow. it took them 7 days to schedule my onsite after confirming. everyone that said they got ghosted just wait a little
i got bloomberg verbal offer like 1.5 weeks ago and they said it would take "a couple days" to send formal offer
it still hasnt arrived
š i think the guy just hates me from the beginning
So it took a while to get a confirmation email even after you gave your dates for VO?
bro bb interviews like p much everyone so they are definitely hella backed up
some interviews just go that way
yeah 7 days
would you need to lie? thought internships hire up to 6 months after grad
just gg go next
Iām a bit past 7 days now
most require u go back to school after the internship ends, no?
Don't think so
But guess Iāll keep waiting(not like I can do anything else lol)
how would that even work if you lie lol
Can someone describe the final round for Bloomberg new grad? What's the format?
uh u just sit at home pretending ur still in school
cause then wouldn't you need to wait to "graduate" before returning or applying for new grad lol
lol
free unpaid vacation ig
free unemployment ayo
Which final round? Onsite or EM?
Onsite
It varies
what's the duolingo untapped joke in the process channel?
Few ppl have in person (2x1hr) but most have 3 hr VO or 2x1
does anyone know if "Software Development Engineer - Automation" === SDET at Apple?
Up to 2 LC questions per round
Does anyone know anything about the Apple evolve program?
Has anyone been asked for references during interview process?
And if I want to use my manager from a previous internship do I need to ask for consent from him or her?
yes
only once
Gotcha
Iām wondering if itās bad not to use a Professor or manager? I play a d1 sport and I feel like just using 2 of my coaches
I know for sure that I wonāt get a better offer than my capital one offer
Docusign layoff 9% today
Should I still go to the interviews
why not
you might be able to negotiate
and you might find that by talking to the people at jpmc you prefer their culture/team
JPMC doesnāt negotiate for development program to my knowledge
You can do it for practice
rip to returns
But I know that I wonāt
Never say never lol
I thought so at first two but it would pretty much just be behavioral practice since from what Iāve gathered the technical interview at jpm is notably easy
Why are you so sure about this lmao
have my case study in 30 minutes any tips š„ŗ
True, I didnāt apply to JP cuz of hirevue and questions are kinda easy
JP didnāt have hirevue this year
Oh they changed it
Itās literally gonna be a business context + modifying a nested for loop or some basic math
cool thanks
The case interview is just a āare you competentā interview
You got Capital One return, I wouldn't even consider JP with that either
databricks resume reject in <24 hours š
Youāre looking at like a 15-20k difference in pay and in a higher cost of living area
And jpm from what I understand has worse wlb and a much more dated tech stack/legacy code
Yeah, but I still do practice interviews for some companies that would be a bit harder but wouldnāt take offer due to location or same pay
Yeah that's a good strategy
This is a very blanket statement that is generally untrue for almost all established companies, it depends on the team
anyone know what the teams at databricks are?
So, just LCs (presumably mediums) and no system design?
On onsite, pretty much
Thanks!
What the hell?
Bruh
š
That was a final round interview
Not me frantically signing into the portal to see if the same happened to me
Interviewer basically implied I should give up on tech š
lmao for what company
naww š
Microsoft
"Sincerely, Flick"
That's an interesting name
well yes
fr tho I'm giving up hope on full time offers
might just have to start my own business
Flick is a good name to be sending rejection notices with 
might just delay grad at this rate
same
these online interviews where there's no interviewer and you just have to record your answers are the worst
By how long lol
We donāt know 2024 new grad market isnāt gonna be worse when fulll recession impacts come thru lol
very true
my only concern is, I have to take out a loan for next semester
I don't want to do that without having a job lined up that can pay for that
Loan forgiveness
š
for US that is
I thought that was for people who already took out loans
not exactly sure how it works, but my roomate took extra loans when he heard about it
Cause it would cover then
hmm
it only applies for federal loans right?
I donāt think you qualify for forgiveness if you make over 100k though
I think so
i dont have job yet
aight I'll look into it
was lowkey just thinking of taking a gap sem, interning over the summer
if i get FT return, come back to college and finish my last sem
if no return, repeat
Yeah itās honestly not a bad plan
I was actually thinking of doing GTECH online masters
Apparently itās really easy to get into and I feel like GTECH would look really good on my resume
the worst feeling in the world is sacrificing GPA and doing poorly in classes to study for interviews
but honestly fuck shcool
Was this for new grad SWE?

like i had a higher level math exam that i basically threw to grind bloomberg tagged LCs and then still failed the interview
i had a 3.7 and was on the cusp of graduating with latin honors but not anymore
I know that feeling. I am like oh I got a bad grade, but I will get a good internship/job
Kinda glad I donāt have to deal with recruiting for school type positions soon
Cringe
college is a scam, years old experience is a lie, buy index fund. Bye !!!
but still
Like no need to worry about offer deadlines and school stuff
Yeah, new grad swe for the technical support team
gpa doesn't matter that much but lowkey i feel like grinding insanely hard in classes dramatically reduces the amount of prep you have to do for interviews
really ?
just do half and half
give them bad reviews then
half grind interviews half grind class
gotta manage ur time wisely
spending 24/7 on leetcoding probably isnt the best use of ur time anyways
like i don't have to review DSA stuff and can just go straight to grinding leetcode
whereas if i didn't give a shit about my classes
i feel like u only need to know OOP and Leetcode. Then u are good with interviews
id have to do some DSA review on top of it
like even before leetcoding i already know algorithms and runtimes off the top of my head thanks to classes which reduces the overal prep alot
true
was this for frontend position?
my 3.7 was definitely super unnecessary
holy fk is this recession going to be really bad
application still transferred.....
though I assume that means its dead in the water
sad
Banaana anything from rippling yet?
yeah but someone said HC for this year is frozen
you dont even have to put your gpa on your resume lmao
ugh
MANNNNNNNN FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY IS GETTING A NG JOB SO FUCKING HARD THIS YEAR
ffs
ughhhhhh
honestly at this point google is my last hope too lol
and i dont even know if im gonna get onsite
did anyone else here get ghosted for pinterest
see my problem is that I scheduled this semester of classes to be much easier than next semester
cuz i thought id be able to grind for jobs this semester than grind out the last of my classes
wait serious question, in the past years do the interns just not accept as many full time return offers? Is it a mix of less new grad headcount + more interns accepting?
When round?
but if hiring opens up in the first half of 2023 than i basically fucked myself
more people are accepting because its safer to accept whatever offer you can get
yeah u right L expected
and on top of that, headcount is generally lower across the board, tech is correcting
my microsoft final just got cancelled massive L bois
NOOOOO
rippling ghosted me as well š¦
wait what why?
after OA?
did they give u reason
i didnt even get OA lol
damn thats tough too
theyre saying that they will be filling HC with past interns??? like wtf
they just ghosted me
you gave so much hope for what
yeah wtf man
literally every company is ghosting me or rejecting me
with faang on my resume
idk
at this point
you have return offer right?
LMAO i have spotify on resume still major Ls
good thing i have a return offer
just accept the return yeah you're fine
yeah
where is ur return
lit
you have literally 0 to worry about
tech hiring not pog
for you another offer is just extra credit
for those of us without returns its desperation
naw naw its not like that i just wanna see i can get something better honestly
sorry for sounding like that
i am def greatful
uh oh my light is flickering š
for my offer
rip my power
get lost bozo
damn i wish there weren't so many technical issues my first interview with expedia, my second interview went really well (prob the best technical i've ever given), but i feel like my first interview is holding me back here
okay is it worth applying to expedia with a capital one offer
most of the meta interns are getting interviews lol
cuz most companies know
the situation there
expedia closed apps
also capital one offer?? congrats!!
They only reason why I am not taking is cuz I did have to relocate and spend on housing
they just posted a bunch of stuff on linkedin
my friend had a good time there last summer
oh nvm yeah apply
yeah fr
the OA is rly hard tho heads up
idk how brex is ranked No.4 top startups in the US, especially since they shit the bed earlier this year and cut ties with small businesses, which is essentially the focus of their mission lmao
What did they do
Prob ranked that hi bc of their valuation
Tyrannosaurus Brex
what is this?
blind memes capital one so hard and i dont know why
Why did the bot violate me like this
Someone process offer then deleted it
Probably
yes
That's smart
is there a discord for Amazon new grads?
Wdym by that
ty
Is palantir oa automatic?
No
like companies know that most of them didnt get offers. i heard some of their managers gave them advice and told them to leetcode or something
and connected them to their contacts
thats what i heard idk if its real or not
does palantir give OAs this season
to some people
I got one, many others did not
this year I just got resume rejected
shits weird man
that was me last season
for intern
yeah it seems like most people went to karat instead of oa
we just suck I guess LOL
what does transferred mean on a microsoft application
It means Iām going to Puerto Rico
whats ur sign on
my recruiter said hurricane is done though
hurricane?
17k
Iām memeing the whole āmy recruiter said ā¦.ā
ur TC's still like 190 right?
my recruiter said that Jour de Bon is done
oh kek
im kinda done, i accepted my offer, we'll see tho
no 182 y1, 172 recurring
Where at?
let me guess
guess
amazon
LOL
thats lower than what ive heard previous guys get
the vast majority of people with offers they like seem to be amazon or c1
ik which is why im surprised
u cant nego?
Zon has a waitlist and c1 closed off their job post lol
vast majority of people in this server yes
mans are broken in this server
Itās just moving it to recruiters assigned to ur area/school
Companies meeting headcount in Sept what a time to be recruiting
people in this sever are probably the top like 5-10% of all cs majors
last year i just got straight up resume rejected w/o transfer so is this a good sign or bad sign
ngl I had a tough convo today with a friend... He wanted a referral but his resume was so shit
I wonder if recruiters love or hate this type of season
yeah its negotiable
Had to tell my mans no sadly
It means nothing
breh lol, to who
Iām a monkey that googles things. I donāt know anything.
Probably hate
Can google take referrals after applying? I just found out a close family friend of my dad has a son that works at google but Iāve already applied and done OA
Some guy from my country tbh
Donāt they get commission on offers?
No
At least you had the tough convo
Damn rip
from ur country lol, that boils things down
it honestly does lmfao
the fact that your on a career prep server with a large number of FAANG-sexuals probably means you're not an average CS major and at the very least are more motivated than the vast majority
are you from monaco
true I think it'll help him down the line
Close enough lmfao
breh lol
Is that what your recruiter said?
yes
like i read that the average CS major doesn't do an internship before graduating
how wtf
which should automatically tell you a lot about how the people on this server compare to average cs major
They prob spend more time touching grass
gotta remember bud, you just being here makes you a much bigger try hard than most CS majors
you can do all of these things and grind cs stuff yk
Tbf you can do a lot of that while youāre doing an internship
that's what im saying
I got laid, went to parties and had a fun ass college life.. Got 8 offers during before graduation 
i got laid exactly once in college
exactly it's just good time management
Quality over quantity my dude
gimme referral instead
and i pretty much gave up on all video games
One top shelf multiple times (hopefully forever) is universes better than a bunch of shitty one night stands
it was also not a good experience

same
the way he touched me
but he said I was the only one
you have ur c1 offer now go get laid homie š
me too 
you do know that yahkuna is a girl right 

lies, female cs majors aren't real
It has been confirmed to be true
Hello everyone, why would you think interviewers ask graduates if they want to pursue a master's degree? They basically asked me if I can give them a rough master's graduation date. (I'm currently 4th year in my BSc)
id just say no
They wanna see if you have other plans so they can gauge what offer can pull you in
100%. CS majors on average may be higher but I doubt it's very common still to have an internship before graduating.
I said I was considering a masters during nego, even tho I had no interest
Getting internships is tough
It doesnāt feel like that but it seems to be true
before I joined this server I thought it was normal to start applying in spring semester
I j got the email to schedule an interview via Karat with Palantir
Depends on the internship
any advice?
and now Iām applying to jobs a year before they open
i think getting the first internship is tough
getting @pulsar mural wasn't hard tho
I think some people donāt realize it is not that hard to get an internship
I mean since they emailed me for that then it should be good news.. like they're actually considering me
Thereās a lot of local/smaller companies that are usually easy to get into
Yes, that's generally a good sign
But most people donāt really know to apply to them
A little but getting first BigN is definitely the hardest
they also wanted to confirm my BSc graduation date, if that helps
getting any internship paying 40$ and hour or more is incredibly hard
but if you didn't care and just wanted an internship with no respect to compensation it would be mad easy
If you spend all of your time on discords where people go specifically to omegajuice their careers, then it def does feel like that.
Same, couldn't get any. And Amazon is constipated for HC right now
Same
There's a stat, FAANG grads have like a 5x chance of getting laid after graduation
ayo who started pogging this
in my experience i had a lot of trouble getting my first internship bc i just wasn't super competitive but i struck up a random conversation with a guy at a career fair, applied to a different role at the company that wasn't on his team. got a call months later saying that the guy specifically asked if he could have me as a intern on his team
amazon isn't a real faang and sucks
after i got my first internship, getting the second one was a lot easier since i had that experience on my resume
I wish our University had a better support system. The last stem fair we had Qualtrics and Guitar Center on campus
Hiring for SWE*
Working out consistently, dressing well and touching grass gets you there easily my dudes
guitar center no way hahaha
SWEs really do be overcomplicating the game
Literally booth next to them was asking business majors to sell wine or some shit like bro
bro imma be real idk if hitting the gym rly has much correlation on getting girls
honestly I feel like a lot of it is about starting early
there for sure is
as a girl, and all my friends i've talked to its not about how in shape they are etc
not necessarily grinding early, but just putting in a little bit of effort early towards your career
the gym isn't really about being shredded, it's just a confidence boost thing
if there's a correlation i'll say its moreso guys who to gym = more confidence. confidence is whats truly attractive
Getting girls is like applying to new grad jobs, you send out 100 applications, hear back from 3 and then try not to fail the interviews
^^
well maybe not better body = more girls, but working out makes u more confident, which can result in better conversation skills, which can result in more girls
we said the same thing lmao
based
Imo it's all in the momentum. I had the gimped CSSI and got STEP phone interview, but then year after because I didn't get an internship (tbh just lazy) next year I got nothing
bro a lot of guys are just fucking weird tbh
Lol
like just act like a normal human being š
I'm married, but I really advocate just finding 1 super great person forever
It's a LOT more fullfilling
Me.
dont remove the leg curl comment lmaoo
This is just what your brain becomes after 200+ solved LeetCode
ez 4 hachiyuki
My second time was with assisted dips
I went down on her pretty well
Eh I found that getting over 200k is like getting your first internship
anyone done the Palantir Karat? I just got the email for it just now
Once get one offer, it becomes a lot easier
This is about getting girls
fair lmaoo
Especially when they cancel them two weeks before starting. Itās so awesome š¤©
Is that why Andrew Tate has a harem, you just keep getting offers after the first
my recruiter told me girlfriend apps are closed for the season
i literally treat dating the exact same way i treat new grad applications tbh
Getting a girl with 200k TC is hard
Wife do be making more than me 
yogi can't believe youre a whole ass married man
it's recent but thanks 
Stay at home dad is based
i feel like you have to also be making 200k TC or higher tbh
yogi if you dont mind me asking how old are you
does it feel any different from when yall were just dating
i couldnt imagine getting married while at college
he's graduated
Not at all lmao
at the big G i think?
Yeah G in Seattle
oh shit
I just turned 22 and am unemployed

honestly i wouldn't marry someone with sub 200k TC
im turning 22 in two weeks and i can't even imagine getting married the year after that
my recruiter says your chances of getting with a girl of any TC is low
Hey whats going on here btw
Her income fluctuates because of her job but I make like 265k, she makes around 300k?
my bf was like how do u feel about a proposal after graduation and i was like absolutely not lmao
I've heard the term "Spoogler" for spouse of googler is this true
How come?
Ew no wtf 
spoogler
putting "you have to make 250k" on tinder makes you way more attractive i promise
they better get the hats tho
Does FAANG have good merch?
that's the first question you ask on a date too
I care about merch quality a lot
i told him my preferred timeline would be engagement when we're like a year or two into living together after grad just bc there's so much change that happens after graduation, i would want to grow together through that as both individuals & a couple before bringing marriage into the equation. i also want a long engagement, like 2 years
"do you make more than 250k?"
"no"
"all right have a good life"
and then you leave
didnt u just say ur unemployed
they do 
I start work in a month
Most stable Blind user
lmao
googcat
so true
girlboss
No cats allowed on campus 
where does she work
she's independant
Thats so fucked up
brb never applying to google
ok but seriously though if you're making like 3-4x as much as your spouse doesn't that hurt a relationship
naw I think you can bring it, but its not advised
it shouldn't
because the cats get spooked with the sheer amt of dogs
some people dont place that much emphasis on cash
bullshit
Naw it really doesn't
arent you a highschooler? i wouldnt expect you to get it
Wat 2 much time on Blind does to a mf š
Sounds like it would only matter if they're a bad person which hopefully they're not 
Most of my friends donāt tell their s/o how much they make
if it's a problem it probably comes from a place of insecurity
Money is amazing af so why would I be mad if they're bringing in more of it
like personally, i would never be sure if they just liked me for my money or not
exactly
but also i think they should prob know this, esp if living together
is he actually LMFAOOš that explains a lot
deadass bro
imo im prob gonna make a lot more than my bf starting out, that just means i can spoil him more hahaha
also, if you're an engineer at a FAANG, do you really think your spouse would be clueless on how much you bring in
bro worry about this when u acc have money š
I donāt think it matters how much they make, also they usually cover all the finances themselves regardless
hes like a junior too
i know im just saying hypthetically
i told my gf that if im making more than her, then we pay whatever percentage of our income towards rent vs both of us paying half
fuck knows wtf he does in 2023 grads... in case you didn't know, 2023 grads means college grads, not high school @smoky lodge
holy fuck pinterest recruiter call earliest appointment is 10/17
why is everyone applying
stop applying
fuck i need to do my OA
We want money š° š¤
i tried to tell my bf this but he rly wants to go 50/50
what's sh
lol why
Whenād you get email?
i'm not in high school wut
Recruiter initials
jsut now
like if i made less, i would not want to pay half. not fair
GZ
Ah
CAP
Yea this is a p logical arrangement
but i mean hey if he wants to pay half by all means lol
I know mine was out of office until around then for pin
sent 840 codesignal last friday
Ur literally drinkin monster energy in ur pfp
Big hs vibes
thats what i thought too!! but ig the plan would be to find a place that fits both of our budgets
i'm 5'11, but since it's close to 6' I can just say im 6'
but since 6' is indistinguishable to most people from 6'1, I can just say I'm 6'1
which means i can say I'm 6'2
which means i can say I'm 6'3
yes.
Homie tryna use induction on his height š
i guess that's fair. i told my gf that if i make good money i really want to live in a nice place
imagine having an S/O hahahahahahahahhahahaahaa 
Ur height is a ratio?
what age did you guys move in with ur SOās
im 5ā 2 (two measurements btw)
R u American?
bri ish
Nvm suks
my condolences
Ohhh i c
thank you

i wish there were more brits here i feel alone and scared
is it easier to get a job after your first one?
im here bby :(
good thats wat u get for being british
Yes?
if i was below 5'10" I'd probably just give up at life and live on welfare since there's no point
im assuming it's just dumb harder to get a job with 0 experience
@smoky lodge so what year of uni r u in
are you british too!!??
yeah, scottish
dm
first semester senior
Aren't u 5'11 dats basically da same ting
shut up
if he insists and is part of picking I think itās fineā only a problem if u want a nicer place.
ya boi just wants good money. wanting to hop to FAANG asap to make them big boi moneys
personally donāt want a handout lol
not sure why me having monster energy in pfp means im a high schooler
when half the full timers have anime PFPs
Average Costco shopper
Yo I'm so glad Costco sampls r bak
Don't worry I usually take more than 1 too
Anime is for adults
Monsters pretty good too
anime is for high schoolers
I can sav so much muni by jus eating sampls
Actually tried it for the first time over the summer
like explicitly too
yea plus we probably moving to seattle so if we both contributing 1.5k for rent thats more than enough to find a great place
One of the internās reccomended it to me
Impossible
Costso?
If I was below 6ā0 Iād give up on life
basically a FAANG tier company cause of free food
If youāre a guy below 6ā0 thatās an L
i agree
Hell if youāre below 6ā2 thatās an L too
Except they stopped doing free food recently
Kek
Wat company?
Itās only Thursdayās now
Vangaurd
if ur taller than 5ā3 thats an L
being below 6' is an L being below 5'10 is like a consider doing cocaine
Damn dat suks
It was an incentive to bring people back in office
If they don't got a degree from a Beijing school I don't want them
(For legal reasons this is a joke)
i think i have to add troll back into my username one sec
he still cant spell it right its been 8 months
So bein below 5'10 is good š¤
i put every penny i save into costco stock
If they paid more then they could spell it right
if I take JPM then I donāt need to worry about spelling
Vangaurd is actually so hard to spell
That comp is genuinely depressing though - 80k? Unless it's lcol, I don't recall where their main office is
ew cod
Itās like 88k total
not great
AT&T is giving me 87 base in Dallas, smaller sign on though. Is most of that locked up in sign on?
Nah itās 80 base 8 sign on
That really sucks imo
AT&T offer is basically my TC
Yeah they like to low ball
And I donāt think I got a raise for return intern
Which is kinda dumb
Itās same as non return intern
Tell them you'll short VOO if they don't increase TC
shorting VOO will do literally nothing bruh
hey guys, anyone know when to nego salary
I'll short VTSAX too and tank my own net worth
When you get offer
like when one receives the verbal offer or written offer
I think written
i haven't negotiated but i think written
U can start negotiating when u get the verbal offer
Thatās what Iām doing rn
Are there any tech companies that are ābetterā than google?
Whatās dn
Deez Nuts
Nice one
Proud of 2023 grads
only been ghosted by them
Yo ur on this discord too
I'm the one who told you about this discord lol
Nah I was here a long time ago like 2 yrs
Oh huh lol
Ye I was on the grind
Clearly paid off with that back2back internships
Lmfao ty
same thing happened to me in April lmaoo
It's gonna feel so wierd to be back to school work
I'm still in summer mode lol
Fr Fr itās gonna be even weirder for me
i shouldve just done 410 last semester and graudate in winter
im mad chillin in terms of workload tho cuz i dont have many classes left
Ya but do u plan to start google then after fall? Or take a break
if i get google i wanna start in early august
taking like 2.5months off. that is enough
has anyone taken the expedia hackerrank?
i got bloomberg verbal offer like 1 5
is wells fargo interview just behavioral?
Ye thatās my plan too with either g or msft
lowkey since both g and msft are the same, location is the only thing i would really consider
for msft u are in seattle and g would be in nyc right?
MSFT is Bellevue and yes google would be nyc
just for the fun of it, does anyone know any good companies in switzerland i could apply to
that isn't google
Amazon
that like isn't a popular company in the US
swiss cheese
i literally dont know any euoporean tech companies besides BeReal lol
and thats French
Verbal offer
wtf is this take
MSFT == G? 
only fans :))
nah i say G > MSFT but not enough to simply just choose that
you can still negotiate the written offer right?
location should be the biggest variable in choosing when u have msft and g
are you just saying negotiating at verbal offer is preferred
Yeah but it's gonna be harder for your rec to do so. They need manager approval in order to go back and change the written offer
Whereas a verbal offer, they're still in the process of filing your case to create the written offer so there's a lot of flexibility in the middle
ah ok...
i goofed then
Usually -- and I say usually because I've tried many times -- they won't even bother to listen to your appeal on getting more after you get the offer letter
TC, team and location
TC is generally higher in NYC/Bay area, but so is COL
Negotiation is more open at G if you have a good offer, then even places like Seattle/Chicago are good places
just use Google to neogitaite MST and then use MST to negotiate Google
MSFT anywhere not in cali is gonna give you an unideal TC compared to G, and negos aren't as flexible
CERN
Swiss Bank 
G doesn't do back and forths
You send it once, it's a done deal iirc
š§¢ MSFT gave me a decent package
Or niantic, the ppl who made pokemon Go xd
I speak from experience my dude idk
Anyone else noticing the trend where more and more companies are asking multiple choice in their hackerranks?
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TC and location?
Just tell us how much you got, we're pretty open here
I got into G with 265k at Seattle
What did you nego g with
Bloomberg and Citadel
Do these include Em, or they are scheduled later ?
Did anyone interview at DISCO?
If I have a quant trader offer, will g nego?
Not too sure since mine were SWE offers, but I'd assume so
@loud sphinx what was your msft package my guy
pls tell us
Later
Nowhere near ur gs
yeah u use g to negotiate mst and then use mst to negotiate g
The best MSFT offer this cycle so far and in general on levels
This is for Redmond, WA which is nuts
now
exact same app cycle, slightly different area but still in WA
and these are just manually reported cases, there's tons more on company specific disc servers
I was a bit wrong, MSFT does give pretty nuts top band offers
but it looks like it still falls a tiny bit short from G (especially in averages)
Iām sure this is return offer too
my BB offer isn't standard at all
BB is super fast either way
G on the other hand takes months
ngl that's still enough time 
I did my onsite for G on october, got the offer on December 21st
when i negoed bloomberg my recruiter moved my signing deadline to be 24 hrs this cycle btw
but some folks wait MUCH longer
200k
Ah for BB I did onsite late September and had the offer like 10days later
The highest standard offer this cycle is 220k
last year it was 215k
maybe? i didnt push that hard and didnt have amazing competing offers. my other offer was like 185k in seattle
not that I know of
Yeah they do but it's rare
and I don't recommend people go off outlier TCs like mine
i think return gets a 20k sign bonus but you can nego sign bonus
standard offer is no sign bonus
Both but nego definitely stronger
idk if my recruiter was lying but was told 185 is the highest initial offer i can get (interview performance, pre nego, etc)
Yeah plus my HRT final and other offers
I renegoed like twice
so it jumped each time
I think standard offer I had was 185k
then I negoed once to 200k, then again to 215k then again to 300k
yeah
which is like I said why I don't rec people using outliers for their own negos
its good to know it exists but thats about it
respect
ugh believe me I still get tech managers in my LN profile views every month 
ya i think u gotta be a real hardass to nego multiple times bc my recruiter was pressuring the hell out of me on nego number one
wanted a verbal accept before they would go nego for me
I never sent offers or told my actual values
Only company I did that for was G
Yeah
yeah i told them if they match sign on ill accept since that was the plan anyways
My recruiter was the same, it's a lot of pressure so if you feel uncomfortable with it then I highly recommend doing emails
LMAO i saw my recruiter in person at a career fair and negoed face to face
def not a great idea but i got smth so im cool
Yeah just be upfront about expectations before you jump in
don't think of numbers DURING the nego 
Here's my slanky
I ended up with 8* offers
pretty proud of em and really willing to help so lmk if you guys have questions
They can't pressure you if you tell them you want some breathing space to consider their offer
Thanks!
Companies I got into btw for the uninitiated: Google, Meta, Bloomberg, Citadel, TikTok, DraftKings, Uber and a Series A startup
Last season was way crazier than this year
Holy
Damn bro, how did you study
I feel you guys tbh which is why I wanna help
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My LC count isn't high but top tagged + Blind 75 is good
this season sux, i just took smth from my current offers even tho i have google and apple in progress bc i really just want a job and not to be screwed over
I had around 60 LCs done when I started my OAs, then I ended up having like 80 OAs so I stopped prepping
Yeah just renege if it works out, it's chill
How do I nego if my only other offer is lower?
@young peak which offer did you end up choosing
It's close tho
Mostly mediums?
You tell them you have a competitive offer from a great company that you're interested in, but that this company you're now negotiating with is more in line with your career objectives
That's it
no showing offers or telling them specific company names unless its a big company
u_u dont wanna renege bc my other offers are from companies i like too.. just gonna chill since my salary is within where i was targeting anyways
Yeah focused more on mediums
They're both startups
Tanks 4 da advice
Why don't you wanna renege?
then why not just take the offer?
It's not burning bridges, just a new opportunity showed up
oh wait nvm i see u have google and apple
thats what im planning on, just cancelling google and apple
doesn't google take a really long time though
yeah i dont trust either of them LOL both are kinda weird rn
What's this company you have that you're willing to just stop G and Apple for?
like once you pass interview it could be months to get team matched?
Yogi showing the way just like a yogi lol
Yeah but they heard the company names and didn't care too much
gave me lowest possible offer for the role...
350k
naw
recruiter kinda laughed tbh 
atleast they considered nego lmfao
also has anyone heard back from paramount?
Meta straight up rejected saying they don't nego lmfao
only thing I got changed was getting to NYC office
but damn they were really adament about the no nego thing
i had atlassian and bloomberg, took bloomberg. google isnt hiring for nyc and apple ict3 nyc will pretty much be the same tc and im not great at interviewing regardless
I'd be more bullish with quants looking back, maybe just say hey I'd like $X more and I'll sign rather than doing it the normal way
any reason why bb over atlassian?
i cant do full remote im soo shit at focusing LOL
You got atlassian and bloomberg, I'd say you're good enough tho. Either way BB is a great place to be starting out so congrats!
LOL gotcha i wanna do remote but i know it's rough as an ng
@wicked pendant btw how did you do on atlassian OA? I did 2/3 wondering if thats enough
They are pretty booked
yeah ofc i did such shit on atlassian oa
i got 1/3 full and partial on the other 2
I got mine two days ago that it's all the way in mid October
damn
Bloom is like 180k right?
yeah around there
@wicked pendant do you mind if I dm you about atlassian?
idk what factors they use to calc it but it goes up to 185k
i got reached out to early august and im just now wrapping up my VO if that gives u any perspective
What school?
sure ill send a req
Holy shit whats ur resume looking like
Just a random T50
Oh d#amn
Where did you intern?
Pretty standard -- 2 no name internships, some TA work, some freelance exp and like 2 small projects
if u get into faang at 21. is cs degree worth it
For all ur apps did u only apply to top companies?
yeah
this final classes are killing me
Yeah I tried to target companies that could sponsor
I'm international so that was really important to me
Sheesh
Full time or for intern?
Iāve got 2 big ns on my resume and am not getting even near close to the response rate as urs
Just finish it lol
year diff
help me
this app cycle sucks ass
i have money
@cedar nebula are you Cito?

If you can probably worth it to finish the degree especially if your close but if you have finical commitments or have to take out a bunch of loans then might make sense to drop. You can always do WGU or something online.
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Yeah said I got moved on to DN
I've heard some people were extending out college by underloading so they can wait till next year to apply new grad
thats so bad lmao
What is this expedia strength based assessment
Right they are missing out swe salary + paying tuition
They see which candidates can bench press the most and then go onto squid games
That is easily 250k+ wasted
And the benefit of 1 yoe
You're worried they'll stop hiring by the time you interview?
Tru
How they low balling?
you'd get higher standard offers at all the other FAANGs generally
but thats with no competing offers
Ahhhh Iām sure with competing offers itās probs competitive af
but canada as a whole kinda sucks for SWEs tho 
did anyone else get asked for a number (how much u want in your offer) in the hr round for bloomberg, and if so how much did u say?
Canada just sucks
use amazon to nego google up lol
Doesnāt Canada have higher taxes than the US too
rblx said decision by EOD today... it is almost EOD and no email 
a rblx recruiter viewed me on linkedin earlier today lol
oracle is so messy lmao
one of my interviewers had my resume
becusse my recruiter messed up so I had to manually email them my resume and give them time to read over it
bro you know how many emails like that they get lol
oh there you go
id use that line, def
aye yo
Apologies for the delay. We were asked by leadership to hold off on moving forward with candidates while they made changes to the interview process and training. I'm hoping we can jump back into things in the next 3-4 weeks. I know that feels a bit far out, so I understand if you have to remove yourself from the process, but I'm hoping we can reconnect soon once we have the green light. If anything changes on your end, please let me know.
Thank you, and have a great week!
Best,
Adriana
Full on hiring freeze from rippling
good night its over
will join anyone that pays lmfao
didn't they raise 400m š¤
Damn
i feel like all these freezes are artificial
like none of these companies are actually strapped for cash
yeah just precautionary measures
except maybe coinbase lol
Easy, LC meds
When did you apply?
can anybody tell the Space Complexity for this?
ig overvalued isnt a good term but rather for being an unicorn it doesn't have much room for growth anymore as other unicorns
this metric is somewhat bias to newer social medias
Wouldnāt it just be O(n)
more people have been spending more time on phones over time so ofc newer apps would break the fastest record

