2023_grads

[forest crystal]

thats the normal change, i changed also

[foggy perch]

is it the normal change?

[forest crystal]

yep

[foggy perch]

to me I didn't get the change until waitlist

so idk if it's normal

[forest crystal]

no worry

[foggy perch]

until I got the waitlist letter my portal had the Location listing Seattle, Washington

it only changed to Under Review after that 🤷

[forest crystal]

no worry, just wait

i m the forgotten one

fk it

[analog tree]

Is goldman still hiring NG？

[fallen fox]

their app seems to be still up

[marble bronze]

Pinterest is past 6 months

I think default is past 6 months, with some companies being more restrictive than others

[indigo raft]

they asked a question like this for google apm internship, I’ve been traumatized since lmaoo what book is this?

[grand barn]

anyone has a codesignal q4 where you had to jump bewteen cells of an array if they respect the condition numbers[i] == numbers[j] and i-j < diff ? I could never get these types of questions

so i wanna know the pattern for it for the future

[rare jetty]

just jump bro

easy

[night magnet]

Example?

[feral briar]

Is a 250/300 basically a 0/300 for a codesignal Q?

just did a practice test and got 1, 2, 3 perfect, but for the life of me could not get more than 250 on q4

[last belfry]

Is union find really common on interviews?

[uneven grove]

Ahhh idk

I didn’t read all of the paper

[feral briar]

yeah i only tried it this time because my 3 was ez af

yeah my implementation was O(n^2)-ish with a lot of DP skipping, I guess that still wasn't fast enough ;-;

ah okay, so don't click next when you're done with Q2

got it

okay i'm very stupid so bear with me

my solution was essentialy a O(n^2) loop

but for (i, j) term you could also calculate value for (j, i) term

yes

yeah

😛

I can't think of a quicker way to do that Q but i'm sure there is

[young peak]

Q4 weighted extremely highly

I remember there being an equivalence chart somewhere, but iirc Q4 alone is like doing Q1, Q2 completely and partially doing Q3

[feral briar]

got it

ty!

[young peak]

np man

codesignal can be rough but anything 780+ is a great score!

Just that quants and some companies might not accept anything below 810-820

[uneven grove]

Yeah it looks like 4 is the only “algorithm” question

123 runtime don’t seem as important?

[crude saffron]

What is code signal

[foggy perch]

no

[young peak]

oh sweet summer child

[feral briar]

it's like hackerrank assessments if you've doone those, but worse and proctored

[crude saffron]

Hrt had me do one but it wasn’t proctored

I also didn’t get a score

[young peak]

Company specific ones are different based on the company

The general one is what fucks a lot of folks over

since you can't retake it quick enough

[foggy perch]

true

it's so pog when you get a good general score tho

since you just chill with codesignal reports for a while

[sudden sequoia]

ye tru nice to be able to reuse

anyone know how long it takes to hear back from amazon after final

[foggy perch]

Uhhh rn amazon is waitlisting everyone after final if they pass

But around 2 weeks

[serene fable]

Not everyone, some people got offers

[foggy perch]

Did they? As in after the waitlist emails started being given out

Or before

[sudden sequoia]

wait whatt rlly?

[last belfry]

Anyone got last min tips for karat

[serene fable]

Someone in the Amazon waitlist discord said their friend who interviewed 9/7 got an offer on 9/22

[last belfry]

I’ve got it tonight and have only 102 leet done

[sudden sequoia]

so basically if u did rlly well u wont get waitlisted?

[serene fable]

Presumably, don't know how likely it is though

[foggy perch]

Huh interesting I wonder if it's based off location too

Like I wonder if they chose less popular cities

[marble bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene fable]

Maybe, I'm not sure

[marble bronze]

But it's not a good sign if there was only 1 person out of dozens waitlisted

[foggy perch]

^

Average offers gonna drop this year because can't use Amazon to nego sad

[chilly burrow]

Lie 😎

/jk

[marble bronze]

Meanwhile I be like

"It would be really nice to get an offer of 120k TC"

[young peak]

^ which btw is still a nice offer lmao

[marble bronze]

Oh yeah for sure

[weak latch]

shit i'd even take a 100k tc offer bro

i just wanna secure a job already

[marble bronze]

For sure

Waiting on AT&T is super anxious

Especially as it's my first offer that doesn't come from alumni/professor startups @ university

[serene fable]

What's the minimum offer you're willing to take?

[marble bronze]

Probably mid 80 at the moment given the loops I'm in, but I think given what's coming through I will probably easily clear that

Hopefully

[young peak]

For me it's around the 400k mark

Y'all I rejected a 350k offer to go to G, I'm not gonna bounce unless its worth it

[marble bronze]

My sibling in christ this is a support group for CS majors who can't find jobs

[young peak]

Fellow child of faith, this is more like a gathering for SWEs (aspiring or otherwise) from all walks of life

but I feel you, I was in your shoes just last year so that's why I'm here -- to help basically

[chilly burrow]

Wya now?

[young peak]

Google

[untold lava]

Do you think it’s possible to survive as ng in nyc or sf with 120k base

[marble bronze]

Yes with roommates

[chilly burrow]

Wait u rejected an offer from Google while you work at Google?

Was it for a diff org?

[young peak]

No, I rejected an offer from Citadel to work for Google

I graduated last year

[young peak]

or live farther out into brooklyn or something

[marble bronze]

Yeah fair

[chilly burrow]

Oh i misread ur initial msg 🤦‍♂️

[untold lava]

You think this was right decision?

[young peak]

Yeah I'm happy with my decision

[eternal mortar]

touch grass

[serene fable]

How much are you making at google

[young peak]

265k

[untold lava]

Touch me boy

[formal fable]

Depends on what survival means to you. People with all sorts of income live here. Compromise on location, commute distance, apartment size and you can manage in NYC (without sharing even). You just need to know the right neighborhoods and need to toil hard to find a good deal as they disappear fast

[quartz nest]

oh no, they might have to live in queens, the horror 😱

[young peak]

but I'm in Seattle, so taxes are a lot better here

[chilly burrow]

265k in Seattle is insane 😳

[serene fable]

That's a lot for only 1 yoe

[young peak]

ikr I'm blessed

[marble bronze]

Fair point as well.

The more I hear about NY the more I realize how much I underrated the Chinatown there. Sounds like an awesome place - I'll have to visit some time.

[young peak]

I think for a single (most likely asian CS major from UC Berkeley) dude in his early 20s living as a SWE, there's a certain lifestyle they wanna live in NYC

[formal fable]

Horrible place to live

[young peak]

so while you're right, I think maybe it's worth considering that too? idk

[quartz nest]

Which Chinatown? Manhattan Chinatown kinda dead after COVID. It'll be extra dead once congestion pricing hits

[calm shale]

it's low, but doable. it's equivalent to 50k in low-med col areas

[young peak]

There's plenty of good offers out there straight out of undergrad besides quants, and I really like to express my transparency as a gateway to let folks know that

[serene fable]

Even this year? Seems like most of the good ones are all closed rn

[young peak]

Literally just saw a dude get 260k at Roblox like 2 days ago

[peak ferry]

no shot that math doesn’t add up lol

[marble bronze]

There will always be opportunity for those who are so good that they can't be ignored

[peak ferry]

They do dumb shit like apply a constant % factor but that doesn’t accurately describe cost differences

[untold lava]

Goddamn bruh

[marble bronze]

Unfortunately there isn't as much this year for the rest of us

[serene fable]

Forgot to mention I got rejected from a some of the ones that are still open, like roblox and bloomberg

[young peak]

And if you're in this server, chances are that's you

[calm shale]

is there a better calculator tho?

other than just personal experience

[peak ferry]

not really I estimate by doing taxes + rent but that’s just because my spending pattern makes that the biggest factors

[young peak]

yeah for me Seattle just seemed like the better choice

The apts are lowkey better than the majority of NYC apts

[formal fable]

I'll put it simply with NYC vs Bay vs Seattle based off my second hand knowledge and research. With NYC, you are paying a hefty amount for the "life", and for the young-ins, the "night life". The city has iconic sights, but those are for tourists. What you'll most likely fall for is the sheer density of cultural variations in a relatively small land mass. Fiscally, most stable folks would put themselves in Seattle (min. tax, reasonable COL). But for someone in early twenties, I would suggest to give NYC a go. It's memorable, the city has tons of experiences (food, festivals, sights, bars), especially with a healthy social circle. There's more to do in the city vs anywhere else in the world.

But, that comes at a cost and that usually is the size of your apartment. So.. ask yourself what's important at this time.

[marble bronze]

I dunno, appreciate the sentiment but it's hard to get a feel for how good I actually am relative to CS majors/grads at large. Definitely a bubble in here, but even then Big N companies still feels like a moonshot with where I am in technical prowess

[peak ferry]

yea like how much you eat out will impact the COL impact

[young peak]

when in unit washer driers are a luxury, you know you got a problem

[calm shale]

i feel like nyc being twice as expensive as med COL cities is pretty accurate

[weak latch]

google is the dream i really fuckin hope i get the on site 😩

[marble bronze]

How feasible would it be to commute in from NJ with the public transport?

[peak ferry]

But if ur making big buckeroos like most SWEs you probably aren’t spending all your money anyway so discounting saved money is stupid

[calm shale]

can you carry in NY

[frank wedge]

what you trying to carry

[calm shale]

your mom

[young peak]

One sad reality I had to face was that my technical prowess had nothing to do with my chances of getting a job. It was all just LC prep, sounding like I'd fit in with their culture and spoofing my resume to the point where the line with between lying and telling truth were razor thin.

Nowadays, there are really strong steps you can truly take. It's all luck in the end, but you can pivot yourself forward quite a bit

[formal fable]

It's massive, so safety in NYC is like asking safety in an entire state. Depends on where you are. But on an average, given its size and population, NYC is pretty safe. TOns of gullible students end up here, but there doesn't seem to be a major problem with crime so long you hang out at the right spots (which are majority)

[peak ferry]

Like in my current budget has me saving ~40% of my income, doesn’t make sense to say I should save less in nominal terms in a LCOL city

[restive cedar]

don't walk around in downtown manhattan at night alone or homeless people will throw things at you

source: me

[marble bronze]

I should say that LC prep is that "technical prowess". I feel that once you're in, even the minimum amount of time before they realize you're a bad hire and try to PIP you is enough runway to actually get up to speed.

[marble bronze]

Throw things back at them

[restive cedar]

i live in SF rn and yea i wouldn't either

[chilly burrow]

Dis is just any major city tbh

[young peak]

I ate burnt toast today tony

hope you feel good about yourself

[peak ferry]

Friend also was accosted by a homeless dude in NYC

[peak ferry]

It’s hella dumb but I plan on doing this in Chicago until something bad happens to me

[restive cedar]

although SF homeless just leave me alone for the most part
NYC they get pissed if u don't acknowledge them lol

but texas

[marble bronze]

Also I realize that sounds weird - what I mean is that when I say "my technical prowess is shit" I mean "I can't really do leetcode too well"

[chilly burrow]

What major city

[young peak]

You hitting bottlenecks? Like you can't do most meds?

[formal fable]

I would say otherwise for NYC. The city is ripe for fun in the night. So.. be with your friends and ignore the few creeps you might encounter, cause the Night is when you truly enjoy the city.

For serious crimes, Manhattan is not a big target, especially south of Harlem. Most happening areas like LES, or Hell's Kitchen or UES are packed with college students as late as 2 AM

[peak ferry]

American city

[restive cedar]

when i was interviewing for new grad, i said "i don't know" to every single question for an entire hour in one of my interviews

still got the offer

try your best and be honest and things will happen

some parts of india have an even worse homeless problem than US cities

[formal fable]

The only seriously dangerous areas I know of that I wouldn't be found hanging out (alone or otherwise) are North of Harlem, south of Prospect park in brooklyn and certain areas in Queens

[young peak]

my advice is try to not outright lie, but no need to be too honest

[peak ferry]

Significantly significantly less crime and homeless folk in other countries it’s not a binary yes or no homeless people

[frank wedge]

Yeah some recent grad was gunned down a few blocks from me for absolutely no reason. Same school and age as me. Creepy af

[marble bronze]

I can do meds (notion document seems to suggest a 25-27% of peeking at solution though) after about 90 solved, it just...doesn't feel like it's enough? Perhaps that's something that just never goes away. At the moment I'm in loops, so I'm just studying previous problems mainly

[peak ferry]

there’s also pestering vs concern about your physical safety

[marble bronze]

LC stats are at 41 easy, 90-ish medium, 6 hard

[young peak]

You've done enough lmao. In all my interviews, I barely had LC hards and the meds I got were relatively simple to solve. Only companies I had hards for were Google, Citadel and Roblox

[marble bronze]

Didn't Austin vote to like move all the homeless to a different part of town in a NIMBY type beat

[young peak]

In BB, I only had LC easies

[foggy perch]

same

maybe mediums

[frank wedge]

I’m not mature enough to carry lol

[foggy perch]

rip

I kinda want a concealed carry license one day just for that extra safety tbh

[serene fable]

Basically where I'm at rn, not good enough to consistently get mediums or codesignal q4s

[foggy perch]

probably gonna be nigh impossible to get in california though

[peak ferry]

During the day I haven’t (visiting), but friend was threatened with violence to go to a store and withdraw cash for a dude when he was walking at night

[formal fable]

There's a marked difference in the US and Indian average homeless though. In the US, homelessness is usually a result of broken systems screwing over few or drugs or some sort of mental illness. Almost all of those tend to make them rather comfortable to committing crimes.

In India, I've noticed, homelessness is usually a result of generational poverty. Few of our poor are homeless and most seem to have a decent support system from their equally poor family members. Not the case in the US, where it gets lonely and therefore, mentally taxing. So, I don't associate a ton of our homeless in India with crime

[marble bronze]

Perhaps I'll look back at my words one day and laugh. At the moment, I just feel super anxious because I have 0 job offers lined up, and graduating this year means that I'm running out of time to get something. I supposedly have 1 offer on the way from the AT&T but I don't want to believe it until I actually see it in writing.

I really appreciate the insight though, thank you.

[fallen hornet]

seatgeek

[marble bronze]

Damn, that's unfortunate.

[foggy perch]

tru, most of the danger probs not gonna be at home tho

[young peak]

I'm not the best to get LC advice from since I didn't prep as crazily as some folk. I did around 60 LCs right before the cycle started? My take was that doing top tagged was great and Blind 75 helped a lot

[young peak]

All it takes is one. I think you can find me ranting and crying about having no offers one week, then I suddenly have 4 the next lmfao

[serene fable]

Don't you need leetcode premium to get top tagged questions for each company?

[marble bronze]

Such is the way of life.

[foggy perch]

if I get a Roblox offer I'm ready to quit the internet

still waiting and praying

[peak ferry]

I have an illness of the mind, I signed an offer and I’m still gonna be anxious until I’m settled in, working, and get paid

[young peak]

LC prem is 35$, your future TC is 6 figs

idk it seems worth it to me

[peak ferry]

It’s $100 but split it with the homies

[frank wedge]

It’s $35?

[foggy perch]

it's 100 for a year

[frank wedge]

Wtf did I pay

[foggy perch]

ish

[young peak]

LC prem was prob one of the best ways I spent money

[chilly burrow]

https://leetcode-company-tagged.vercel.app/

[foggy perch]

true the odds of both are pretty sig tho

i personally would never take my chances

[wheat seal]

then it turns to meth/heroin

[serene fable]

Any tips on going from needing to look at the leetcode medium solutions to not needing to? That's my issue rn

[foggy perch]

learn patterns

[chilly burrow]

practic makes perfect

[fallen hornet]

what are some crypto/web3 companies hiring rn? I have web3 experience so those will probably be the easiest to get past the resume screen

[foggy perch]

circle

[peak ferry]

After you do enough you should be able to recognize patterns— how many meds have you done?

[frank wedge]

LC premium has a 1000x ROI

Minimum

[wheat seal]

i mean its everywhere bay area/seattle

[fallen hornet]

did the oa, havent heard shit

it really is

[chilly burrow]

i paid 130ish for the fy plan got a 145k offer

[foggy perch]

rip did you get 800s on Codesignal?

[chilly burrow]

can confirm

[young peak]

Here's the ole slanky from last cycle. I think one thing I wanna mention is that I had a great interview rate, since my LC sucked but my soft skills closed the gap quite well

[fallen hornet]

807

[marble bronze]

Just don't be like the person on the CSMajors subreddit that was like "I solved 85 problems by looking at the solution after 10 seconds of thinking, why do I still suck"

[foggy perch]

i dang 84/121 crazy response rate

wtf

[chilly burrow]

wat kinda internships did u hav?

[fallen hornet]

my response rate rn is so bad holy shit

[formal fable]

The thing I'm trying to highlight is the support system which in case of my country, is usually family members, unlike most homeless in the US who are lonely. Mental illness by default doesn't make you dangerous, neither doees unemployment or any other homelessness factor. But when you feel desolate long enough, you lose empathy or to put it blunty, "shits to give" about the rest. There's a reason why people are surprised that slums in India, with their massive populations, aren't necessarily crime havens (at least violent crimes). And this is in stark contrast to the poor areas of the US, where drugged up junkies or someone desperate or stressed or hopeless enough will consider drastic measures to address their situation, which unfortunately isn't the same as having as support circle

[young peak]

I have a few companies in mind, what kinda web3 stuff have you worked on? Any good with smart contracts, NFTs? Solana exp is quite good

[peak ferry]

Soft skills underrated if you’re competent ish at LC.

[fallen hornet]

dming

[frank wedge]

I think my response rate was kinda similar, just less apps. Resume was hitting last year

[young peak]

DMs are blocked my brother, just lmk in a thread or something

[fallen hornet]

ah

i worked on cloudflare's web3 team

[young peak]

Oh my resume had an insane hit rate

[chilly burrow]

wat kinda insane resume did u hav?

[young peak]

But you're cracked asf armhad

[young peak]

It's pretty mid ngl

[fallen hornet]

i worked on cloudflare s web3 team

[peak ferry]

Cit rejected me even tho I gave competent technical answers lol. I didn’t get super hard techs tho

[serene fable]

Gotta admit, I'm probably closer to this than I should be, moving past it is difficult

[frank wedge]

bro

[young peak]

📸

[foggy perch]

I mean seeing as you folk got Citadel/Google/Pinterest/etc. your resumes are obviously way more cracked than the avg person lmao

[chilly burrow]

ppl say dat an den hav like 3 faangs 😭

[serene fable]

Anybody here got into a big n without any big name companies on your resume?

[young peak]

Naw I got zero FAANG/Big Ns lmao. I had 2 no name internships, some TA work and some freelance

thats all

[chilly burrow]

bruhhh what

[foggy perch]

inb4 no name internship turns out to be a unicorn

are you a T10 Uni person

[chilly burrow]

dis yr is so fucked 😭

[foggy perch]

out of curiosity

[marble bronze]

One thing I will say is that MANY of the medium problems build on easy problems, if not directly use them as intermediate functions. It might be helpful to revisit some of those concepts in easy problems if you don't get the medium ones.

[young peak]

Barely T50 lmao

[chilly burrow]

i hav a >10% response r8 wit a big-name tech

[young peak]

it certainly felt like it last year when a fuckton of people got Meta/G at once

[frank wedge]

Who

[chilly burrow]

Snapchat

[foggy perch]

well now we see the hiring consequences of that

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[frank wedge]

Before yahoo I think my response rate was fucking 5% lol

[foggy perch]

those fuckers overhired so much

last year lmao

[peak ferry]

ime (bc everyone learns differently) how much are you actually thinking about the solution when you implement it? Do you reference the solution when you are coding? My 2c is that it’s best to only read the approach and not the code at all, understand how it works and then implement it yourself. Preferably later after you forget some of the finer details.

[foggy perch]

google and meta really thought covid growth was infinite

so hire everyone

[marble bronze]

Number go up

[frank wedge]

Gabi who interned there last year seemed to get mad interviews with Snapchat on his resume

[chilly burrow]

Ya i've talked 2 em

[foggy perch]

btw random side note, what were the most common lc patterns you saw in pinterest 👀

asking because I scheduled tech

[chilly burrow]

idk, i tink its just harder dis yr for new grads

a lot of companies arent hiring

or hirin much less

[frank wedge]

Do you have a domain interest?

[chilly burrow]

tbh nah not rlly, wich may b bitin me in da ass

[frank wedge]

Yeah it’s harder. I’ve only gotten response from 2:4 so far for 2023

Airbnb and sofi

[foggy perch]

huh

[young peak]

I kinda disagree because I think all it meant was that there were more qualified people in the pipeline than previous years

[foggy perch]

i'm surprised airbnb still hiring

[chilly burrow]

isnt it doin well?

[young peak]

More desperate folks, so they tried harder. More grads from 2020, 2021 and 2022 all backed up etc

[chilly burrow]

for ft

not ng

[frank wedge]

No that was for ng

[young peak]

Airbnb lit y'all that remote work policy is king

[foggy perch]

is it? I assumed airbnb is getting worse rn with its pricing becoming worse

[chilly burrow]

wait arent u a fulltimer?

[frank wedge]

Just started but I applied to them before I started

[serene fable]

I try to, and I do think I'm making progress, but I still have some problems I still can't get, particularly greedy and sliding window problems

[frank wedge]

Before I had remote lol

[chilly burrow]

i thot i herd dat it was profitable for the first time recently

[frank wedge]

Pinflex is lit

[foggy perch]

greedy is sometimes just impossible without seeing the problem beforehand

[chilly burrow]

or smth like da

[foggy perch]

sliding window probs doable

[peak ferry]

Sliding window p systematic

greedy is cursed

[foggy perch]

mannn that's so free

I think

[chilly burrow]

i luv tries

my fav ds

[foggy perch]

graph, trie, tree, and linkedlist problems are my favorite

monotonic stack problems suck

so do greedy and dp

[young peak]

@frank wedge really be the only dude in this server to even pass the Pinterest resume screen

[peak ferry]

I’ve never been asked a trie in an interview. actually never did any fun ds in interviews

Mostly boring algos like dp or smth

[marble bronze]

Greedy problems are ass, like it's just pure fucking gut feeling

[foggy perch]

really? I feel like pinterest resume screen is super chill this year

their interviews sound like the big filter

[young peak]

They did me so dirty. Sent my app, went to be bed and woke up to a rejection email

[frank wedge]

I passed Plaid, chime, Airbnb, pinterest and square resume screens that was crazy lol

[peak ferry]

yea greedy is actually can you intuit the solution and convince yourself it works quickly

[marble bronze]

I'm waiting to hear back from Pinterest recruiter post phone call

[serene fable]

Has anyone made a codesignal q4 pool of leetcode questions?

[chilly burrow]

plaid aint doin ng dis yer 😭

[foggy perch]

really? for me they gave me the email like 2 hours after the phone

[young peak]

Literally none of em passed my resume

[foggy perch]

rippp

[young peak]

Then there's Twitch, pushing me to their L5 pipeline

[foggy perch]

was Pinterest doing the codesignal system last year too?

or did they have diff oa

[marble bronze]

Yeah nothing to me, that's either a good thing or a bad thing

[weak latch]

amazon L5? sounds like hell

[frank wedge]

Damn you could’ve gift me some subs

[foggy perch]

big $$ tho

[marble bronze]

I assume reject until I get followup

[young peak]

It was pretty bad yeah

[frank wedge]

Yeah

[foggy perch]

huhhh I wonder if they relaxed resume screen this year

[young peak]

Just so you could give it to pokimane? naw 💀

[foggy perch]

since like me and 3-4 other guys all passed resume screen a few days ago at the same time

and posted it in processes lmao

[marble bronze]

Honestly I'm really bummed out about Qualtrics. One of the only companies that visited us on campus

[young peak]

armhad really be a tier 3 sub

[weak latch]

im still waiting for oa from pin

i think its an L

[young peak]

Gonna use that Pinterest TC to buy her a tesla

[foggy perch]

honestly Pinflex sounds OP

when they mentioned it I was like damn

that sounds pog

[weak latch]

wait @young peak are you the guy who used to join vcs and do random mock interviews

[marble bronze]

I think they do it in waves, seems like a ton of people got it at the same time

[weak latch]

i swear i recognize ur username

[foggy perch]

If I get Pinterest I'm definitely living in NYC

[young peak]

Yeah dude!

I try to do that whenever I get time

Feels like it helped? idk

[frank wedge]

Phone screen was just a recruiter call? You should’ve asked what teams are hiring

[thorn walrus]

@foggy perch you got Pinterest technical 2 hours after recruiter?

[weak latch]

yoooo that mock interview you did even tho it was brief and cut short deadass set me straight to know what to do in interviews and i landed amazon intern because of that

thanks!

[foggy perch]

huh didn't really know what to ask, since idk really know pinterest teams and would be down for most lmao.

[marble bronze]

I think it's OA -> recruiter -> final or reject

[foggy perch]

Phone screen was pretty chill

[young peak]

Fuck dude that's great! Glad I could make a difference to you guys

[foggy perch]

just them asking really ez behaviorals to make sure I wasn't insane

that and Sponsorship stuff

[young peak]

Honestly man that makes my day thank you

[frank wedge]

No I meant I thought they weren’t hiring anyone but backfills

[foggy perch]

I got the email to schedule it yes

[foggy perch]

oh idk, since they opened the NG apps

[weak latch]

soon i'll join you at google tho 😈

[young peak]

Fuck yeah come right ahead

[thorn walrus]

goddamn recruiter seemed really on board with moving me on but it's been 2 days and no response

[foggy perch]

I just applied to Pinterest NG Apps and got the OA + Interview so I assumed they're hiring and not faking

[young peak]

Make sure you join Seattle

[thorn walrus]

i really want pinterest

[weak latch]

im studying dp right now and aboutta start the snapshot 😂

[young peak]

Oh don't we all

[foggy perch]

oh yeah pinterest recruiter call also asks you about your desired TC which I think is pretty interesting

[young peak]

Once you pass the snapshot, it gets a bit easier

[thorn walrus]

recruiter initials SH?

[foggy perch]

si

[buoyant fable]

are codesignals practice questions on graphs worth the time?

[marble bronze]

I think everyone has SH for new grad lol

[young peak]

G really loves their tree problems, so prep that if you can

[frank wedge]

That’d be cool af if they honored ng just because. Ngl people don’t know this but they make some crazy ethical choices for a social media company

[marble bronze]

I feel bad for her, she's gotta be insanely overloaded

[foggy perch]

uhhh so if you guys haven't scheduled a call with them yet

you're either gonna get transferred or idk

[weak latch]

i hope so, the floodgates haven't opened too far yet in terms of other applicants, im pretty early to the snapshot so i hope that even if worst case scenario i don't do amazing that its more lenient to get to on-site

[livid yew]

talk to @frank wedge

[foggy perch]

since they're on vacation next week

lmao

[thorn walrus]

oh ig @foggy perch has a diff one

[austere grove]

Is amazon rescinding offers

[foggy perch]

no I have her

I just said I have her lmao

[young peak]

Yeah this server makes things pretty skewed, most folks don't even know Google started yet

[thorn walrus]

oh

fml

[foggy perch]

that's what the si meant

[weak latch]

Any company can rescind an offer any time

[thorn walrus]

guess i got rejected

[marble bronze]

Can't rescind offers if you never give them in the first place

[livid yew]

G nas NG apps open

get in there everyone

[austere grove]

Doesn’t answer my question

[livid yew]

GL

[weak latch]

its closed already lol

[foggy perch]

yeah my recruiter mentioned pinterest has been pretty smart with not overhiring so I'll assume that's true?

[livid yew]

oh

[weak latch]

is it open again?

[livid yew]

well

idk

[young peak]

Internet Explorer has entered the chat

[weak latch]

googles ng was open for like 5 days 😂

[livid yew]

bro fuck if I know, I am 2020 grad

[frank wedge]

Yeah it’s true, also they’ve never done layoffs and are pretty smart with their money

[surreal estuary]

people from 2022 ng still stuck in team matching

[livid yew]

I don't touch NG stuff anymore

[surreal estuary]

[young peak]

It's okay boomer techie

[foggy perch]

pog ok nice

[livid yew]

fuck right off

[foggy perch]

I'll probably just do my Technical phone in like 2 weeks from now

[livid yew]

[young peak]

bruh fr?

[foggy perch]

so I have time to see if I get a Roblox offer or not

[surreal estuary]

yeah look at the G discord lmao

[weak latch]

yeah google team matching is fucked at the moment lmaooko

[young peak]

lmk if I can ship you a beer and steal your 3070ti

[livid yew]

[young peak]

that's super fucked

[foggy perch]

google team matching sounds so hellish to me still

[weak latch]

i think they're still evaluating head count

[livid yew]

interesting proposition @young peak

[surreal estuary]

i was told PA match is paused still too and that the recruiter doesn't know when it'll continue

[weak latch]

honestly if i pass google on-site just put me on a random ass team like amazon idc, put me anywhere 😂

[foggy perch]

I've already been burned once by google team matching by not being team matched in Intern project search

[livid yew]

can you ship alc? is that legal

[foggy perch]

so never again

agreed

[peak ferry]

basically nobody will let you/explicitly not legal with usps

ofc if you just don't tell them they also proobably won't find out

[livid yew]

@young peak what kind of beer

[foggy perch]

honestly assuming I can easily find companies later in my career that pay >= Google, there's a very low chance I ever bother with the google process again

it's just so intentionally annoying

[young peak]

Corona always

[livid yew]

don't send me any of that weird west coast IPA BS

fuck that

[foggy perch]

just send over homemade moonshine

ez

[livid yew]

good choice

[young peak]

im kidding tho

I only drink Guiness dark beer

[foggy perch]

fair

[livid yew]

I made moonshine in college

[foggy perch]

did you feel like a bootlegger

[livid yew]

Guiness is also good choice

[peak ferry]

lmao I'm considering throwing a handle or two of alcohol in my moving boxes

would be a really stupid way to lose my shit tho

[livid yew]

nah was just a broke freshman

[marble bronze]

When I turn 21 what should I try first

[young peak]

you sold moonshine? tf

[livid yew]

did not sell

[foggy perch]

if the alcohol isn't strong enough to kill you it obviously ain't worth drinking

optimal way to drink alcohol is clearly vodka shots

Alcohol always tastes like shit, so find the most efficient way to get it down

[livid yew]

we tested it, came out to 32%

[young peak]

I'm doing HR training rn

[austere grove]

Should I apply to investment banking

[young peak]

so I skipped some msgs lmao

[peak ferry]

ime everything will taste like shit when u first start lol

[livid yew]

well either you get into vodka or dark liquor

like whiskey

[foggy perch]

just have a will written beforehand if you do IB

[peak ferry]

that's what I say at night and then I wake up with regrets, ex today

[livid yew]

sign me up

[foggy perch]

nah I've never gotten an alcohol hangover yet

so I feel invincible

I've only ever drank too much once

[livid yew]

lmaooo

[foggy perch]

when I went from 4-5 shots average -> 8-9 shots empty stomach

[livid yew]

not the case for me

[foggy perch]

I died that night

I did not wake up with a hangover tho

[livid yew]

maybe the 3rd week of college, I blacked out

[foggy perch]

so I'm still vibing

[peak ferry]

I've only gotten hangovers when I don't sleep right/don't hydrate. unfortunately kinda easy to do when you yeet down shots

[foggy perch]

yeah I blacked out for like an hour

I woke up fine tho

it was like my body purged all the alcohlo while I was fainted

[livid yew]

yep there are decent gaps of my time at college, that I dont remember

[foggy perch]

it was great

[livid yew]

the #1 rule, 2 cups for water, for every 1 cup of drink

and you will be fine

[austere grove]

I think the investment banking job market is looking better than the swe job market rn

[livid yew]

but as a broke college student we only had bottom shelf stuff lmao

that stuff gives everyone headaches lol

[split plaza]

Inability to process alcohol gang

[livid yew]

now I only have umm $40 + stuff

[austere grove]

I think the HFT C++ core developer job market looks the best actually

[livid yew]

my new apartment is much lighter than we had in college

only the necessities

[marble bronze]

Thai tea is the best in general

[peak ferry]

1. fuck bicardi shit rum made me think I didn't like rum
2. where's the gin

[foggy perch]

where the tito's

[livid yew]

yeah I have better rum, but the Bacardi is for guests

[livid yew]

I hate titos

[foggy perch]

y

[livid yew]

titos gives me hangover

idk why

[foggy perch]

rip

[livid yew]

i know, my dad loves it

[foggy perch]

I just know titos is the vodka that tastes the least like alcohol to me

or has the least burn

[young peak]

Naw I'm just behind a few weeks on onboarding, so I'm catching up as best as I can

[foggy perch]

compared to cheaper ones I've had

[young peak]

I hate being left behind

[livid yew]

I used to get one called sobieski

polish vodka

good stuff

[peak ferry]

friends don't serve friends bicardi. plantation is cheap and 100x better imho

also agreed fuck titos taste like shit and isn't cheap

[livid yew]

I looked for that, did not have at store

alcohol is weird here in Philly

like the laws

oh

not bad

might pick uop

[peak ferry]

plantation 5yr is gr8 I love it

[livid yew]

good rec

will look next time I head up there

[peak ferry]

do they have handles? It's like 35 or smth here

but not at my local store

[livid yew]

this is the stuff we had in college

[peak ferry]

if I'm being cheap vodka is an easy W tbh

[livid yew]

ok back to CS chat

plz

[marble bronze]

Well the alcohol is how we cope with this new grad cycle

[livid yew]

this tbh

[marble bronze]

Deadass when someone posted in the subreddit that they left a package somewhere on campus people were out there tryna find it 💀

[livid yew]

I also keep some Jack Daniels and spiced rum somewhere in my cabinet, but that is for the real friends

my friend groups go-to in college, was chilled fireball shots

[peak ferry]

can't do whiskey or spiced rum tbh

[crude oxide]

wait ho wyou know

[marble bronze]

What's the classic

Lukewarm jagermeister

[peak ferry]

basically anyone I invite into my home I'd be willing to share my good booze with tbh -- I don't have any actually insanely fancy booze.

tanqueray 10 is the only moderately expensive spirit I regularly stock

[livid yew]

kettle one and grey goose are not even that expensive, but good enough quality for a all-around

[peak ferry]

meh don't usually think fancy vodka is worth it at all

[wheat seal]

drinks are overpriced poison lets be honest lol

id take my homemade smoothies anyday

[peak ferry]

like my luksusowa just fine. tried a handle of belvedere and it was ight but prob wouldn't pick it up again. also fancy tall bottles stupid hard to fit in freezer

[livid yew]

Stolichnaya

russia #1

[peak ferry]

[livid yew]

true

[wheat seal]

my parents have like 50yr bottles of wine

[livid yew]

I was going to go out this weekend, but I am so new to Philly I want to learn more about the city first

rather than yeet right into bar scene

[mystic jay]

Anyone know which course this ss is from?

[livid yew]

yep prob next weekend

I think our team is doing some happy hour stuff

company paid drinks

So I have family who lives in Philly, so I already know quite a few people

one of which works at Dropbox, so he is gonna show me some tech places

[exotic lintel]

messaegecouldnot be loaded

[livid yew]

huh

sorry I am boomer, and slow

idk I have not gone to any philly steak places yet

bro I moved in Monday and Tuesday, and worked Wed-Fri

[marble bronze]

Philly cheese steak hit diff

[mystic jay]

I'm wondering about which course this ss that you sent is from

I'm trying to improve on sys design so Im looking for resources and this seems really interesting

[young peak]

Idk about y'all

but I've realized alc just ain't it for me

[vast rock]

yall does Square have any open NG positions?

I think I see a few thigns like 0-2 yrs YOE???

[frank wedge]

Just went to steak 48. There’s del Friscos, capital grille, butcher and singer, Chima’s, Barclays prime. I love restaurants here

Unless you meant cheese steak

Philly

[knotty talon]

i got this next week actually, not sure how to handle that question lol

what's my desired TC

😳

[crude oxide]

who is your recruiter aca

@knotty talon

[snow blade]

I've heard that the "right" thing to say is to ask what the range is

and then negotiate from there

[marble bronze]

I told her "I don't have a specific number in my head right now, but I'd love to come back to this question later in the process." I guess it was good enough for her.

Never give a number until you're balls deep into the interview loop

And even then wait until they actually send an offer

[knotty talon]

gabrielle something

[knotty talon]

yeah i was thinking of saying something similar

ill go with that

interesting that they ask for that tho

do y'all know how to prepare for pitnrest? as in, do they ask LC tagged?

[crude oxide]

o same when did you get oa and email to sched phone?

[marble bronze]

I never got an email after the recruiter call

[knotty talon]

is it possible to fail recruiter call? 😭

[crude oxide]

yea

wait LOL i just realized this is NG channel

[knotty talon]

o lmao

[snow blade]

I got a new grad oa but haven't taken it yet bc I'm scared lol

anyone know what the questions are like?

for pinterest

[knotty talon]

it's codesignal

so

codesignal type quesitons lol

[snow blade]

isnt that just like leetcode?

[knotty talon]

kind of

it's LC style, but codsignal always follows a certain pattern

q1 and q2 are easy

q3 is not that tough but involves writing a lot of code

q4 is tough

[snow blade]

ok you know of any resources to prep?

I'm used to frontend interviews which aren't usually algo-based

[marble bronze]

Do these problems https://www.techinterviewhandbook.org/grind75 and you should be good to go

[hushed ember]

Isn’t this just blind 75

[marble bronze]

Yes, but not sorted by pattern, and there are about double the questions in the longer version (169)

[serene fable]

Here's an overview of all the coding assessments, has some problems to give you an idea of what the codesignal problems might be like: https://github.com/Leader-board/OA-and-Interviews/blob/main/Online Assessments.md

[robust nebula]

Anyone take the OA for Atlassian?

[weak latch]

bruh google oa was so fuckin easy hello

i was expecting some wild dp and shit but it was way easier than the practice one 😂

we take those

[teal jackal]

being home for the weekend made me remember the things i live for and the things im grateful for

being in college made me forget those

[normal palm]

Wdym, lc meds??

[weak latch]

low med or even easy

[normal palm]

Im in college rn and im about to burn out 3 weeks in

[teal jackal]

i enjoy spending time with my family, tbh

[weak latch]

if you wanted optimal for one of them it would be a medium for sure lol

[teal jackal]

i cooked hibachi style sliced ribeye in the air fryer today

it was great

[weak latch]

bro i spent like 5 hours studying graphs and dp for no reason

[teal jackal]

i heard that google OA is RNG, but the odds of getting a hard OA is less likely at google than it is at amazon

[weak latch]

strings and array 🤣

[normal palm]

Only 5 hours 👀

[teal jackal]

so people regard google oa as easier than amazon

[weak latch]

just today lol

[teal jackal]

since amazon can throw some real stinkers

[weak latch]

honestly i feel like i've been getting so lucky with OAs

my amazon oa for intern was also easy

cisco was all LC easy

[teal jackal]

too bad getting return wasnt ez

[weak latch]

TRUE

💀

[teal jackal]

nah we both the same

[slate bobcat]

[normal palm]

Breh why didnt i do, i ghosted that oa kekkkkkkkkkk

[teal jackal]

cisco USA right?

[autumn ridge]

anyone doing lc contest?

[normal palm]

I think so

[primal pike]

do interns have oa2

[teal jackal]

honestly i realized i dont wanna go back on campus

i like being home

i feel lonely and feel like im putting my energy towards nothing on campus

[weak latch]

yes

oa2 is pretty simple though most of it is common sense and LPs

[normal palm]

Breh uni is useless without campus life

[weak latch]

i only go to campus for class

maybe talk to one or two people after for like 5 min then i leave immediately

i see no point in staying on campus "for fun"

[teal jackal]

based

[weak latch]

like what's fun about campus lol

granted im not in any clubs or organizations at all so maybe that's why i find it so boring

[teal jackal]

tbh if i didnt have a girlfriend in freshman year i would have had an existential crisis too

[weak latch]

I got rejected

by brennan dielsing

[teal jackal]

wat

[weak latch]

i thought it was meant to be when we met on ripplematch

made it all the way to final but failed HR round

😔

[teal jackal]

o tru

[weak latch]

she said i need to get more TC first

[teal jackal]

i think its hilarious that brennan delsing is an actual person

[weak latch]

wait what

[teal jackal]

but her name is being used on all the auto emails

[weak latch]

there's no way

is brennan dielsing not just a bot name

[teal jackal]

youll see

literally just google "brennan delsing"

tbh when im on campus i feel like the loneliness makes me feel like my future is bleak if a miracle doesnt work out

but when i go home i realize how much i have(the privilege of a happy and supportive family) and that failure is relative and temporary when i have good support in life

[rich night]

how many interviews is palantir?

[teal jackal]

i really dont wanna go back tomorrow night
i dont wanna suffer in loneliness with a hopeless job search

[primal pike]

well my common sense is fucked then

is there LC for common sense

[teal jackal]

read up on leadership principles

[last condor]

Hey, does anyone know Optiver’s new grad Tc? Just thinking about if i should take an Optiver internship over Roblox (if i pass the final)

[marble bronze]

Cisco was LC "does your brain function"

[last condor]

I meant optiver internship vs roblox internship

Im a junior

[teal jackal]

inb4 no return offer -> back to purgatory

[marble bronze]

Wrong channel

This is #2023_grads my friend

[last condor]

Yea I’m trying to see if anyone knows optivers new grad tc lol

Swe

[rustic vessel]

Optiver swe is around 400k return I heard

[signal tiger]

Hey guys. A random question, it there any discord for Amazon waitlist victims? It seems to be a place place for me to share anxiety XD

[weak latch]

honestly 😭

[signal tiger]

Okay, seems that everyone is suffering from that...

But I have cute cat as avatar, so I feel good

[prime palm]

lmfao

me rn

; - ;

[serene fable]

#2023_grads message

[signal tiger]

I used to believe I'm fast but now I see I'm not

Thank you Ryu

who need a bot when you have Ryn in our channel

[teal jackal]

tbh isnt that most internships

internship work is usually isolated from product-facing tasks

my internship was isolated from product-facing services

i was doing internal tooling shit

my internship was kinda boring

at amazon

it was internal tooling

everyone on my team did internal tools

[primal pike]

literally didnt help

[teal jackal]

F

fuck

[wheat seal]

Where is the oa?

Oh nvm they closed it

[uncut umbra]

I didn't have a gf freshman year and def had an existential crisis

[teal jackal]

now that im a lonely senior who doesnt feel close with my friends

and has no job

i have an existential crisis

[weak latch]

Be based and use Java 😌

Java > Python

[weak latch]

me asf

i get you

[teal jackal]

do you think ill land multiple interviews this season? out of the 46 companies i havent been rejected from already

[weak latch]

Only Ymir knows

[teal jackal]

tbh with the season

im not counting on it

[weak latch]

well even if you don't believe in yourself, and even though you don't know me, i believe in you

[teal jackal]

tbh i should buy MW2, i need to remember that theres more to life than this

the idea of "i cant afford to be distracted" is a bad mentality

fishing is lit

i just preordered mw2

and am downloading the beta rn

gonna play tonight

[modest bobcat]

Hey guys, I got referred at Amazon for a 2023 new grad role. However I did not get an email about the same. I searched online and came across this Blind thread saying that the referral email comes a day later https://www.teamblind.com/post/Amazon-Referral---do-you-get-an-email-Zd3TQJa4
Is this accurate?

[marble bronze]

Yep, you get an email first from amazon jobs and then amazon student programs. After you fill out the latter, it's a waiting game.

[modest bobcat]

I checked my job portal and saw that I do have a "Draft Application" for the same role, but I'm hesitant in applying directly from that draft because I think that may void my referral

[marble bronze]

sigh

[modest bobcat]

Roughly how long does it take to get the email?

[marble bronze]

24 hours

[modest bobcat]

Okay, so do I wait for the email or do I fill out the application draft from the portal?

[marble bronze]

Not sure on that one. I would say te keep it as-is, I think as long as you didn't submit it you should be eligible for referral ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Only submit once you receive the email

[modest bobcat]

The thing is, I didn't even click "Apply" on the posting directly. I started seeing that application only after my guy said he referred me

[teal jackal]

tbh i realized that going through the full new grad process builds character

like we're going to be battle trained and we will know the ins and outs of the interview process

by that point

[brazen lily]

lol

[modest bobcat]

Only for a serious candidate though. I still know people in a CS major who can't write hello world

[marble bronze]

It's funny that CS degrees are simultaneously the best thing to get to pursue SWE and at the same time the least important thing to prepare you to actually land interviews and get the job

[weak latch]

seeing students submit hello world to assignments gives me life

[weak latch]

my school has this class called Problem Solving Techniques and Group Dynamics but it's basically just competitive programming class where every friday you do 3 leetcode hard level questions

[marble bronze]

The course that introduces students to Git, VS Code and unit testing comes as a third year course.

[teal jackal]

leetcode, sysdesign, language + low level systems trivia

[weak latch]

for my school at least these are side effects of classes, there's no class that just teaches this

[teal jackal]

those are the 3 families of interview qs

[weak latch]

Btw does google ask sys design at all?

[marble bronze]

I haven't had system design come at me yet

[weak latch]

not sure if anyones done the ng interview this year yet

[marble bronze]

But I believe SeatGeek will ask that

With seatgeek? Not yet.

Google hasn't reached out to me at all

[wheat seal]

Intern getting asked sys design?

Since when?

Oh ok

[teal jackal]

man MW2 is so much fun

[wheat seal]

How’s that even work tho. Don’t u need ppl to help u tho

Through the process

[modest night]

anyone apply to morgan stanley?

yes to my q or something else lol

[wheat seal]

So ur saying the actual interview was way harder than the job itself

[vast rock]

I use cpp and its simply the master race over java and python

[wheat seal]

Yea it’s great. Like siege and bo1

[weak latch]

cpp is valid but java still based

[modest night]

i use python and i agree

[wheat seal]

I think it just depends ig who u get as an interviewer

[marble bronze]

I think I did Hirevue and then haven't had anything else

[modest night]

when did u take the hirevue?

[marble bronze]

Immediately after I applied

[modest night]

I did the hirevue effortlessly last year and they rejected me

like it aint even hard just few basic ass behavioral qs

[marble bronze]

Honestly I really hate hirevue

Something about it just feels off

[modest night]

same but it is wat it is lmao

[radiant juniper]

My recruiters from google always say you're not supposed to be asked system design questions

[weak latch]

I figured as much, the recruiter I talked to didn’t mention system design

[radiant juniper]

I did the new grad interviews for google

[weak latch]

Oh shoot can I dm you then real quick?

[modest night]

for that q i was like its basically a game of hot and cold

[weak latch]

I wanna double check some things

[teal jackal]

man MW2 beta is LIT

this is a better use of time than vaping

[radiant juniper]

sure

[modest night]

beyond the dumbass hirevue for imc anyone know if the interviews hard?

depends im a dumbass to atm

being a dumbass is very relative

holy shit u gotta do math?

[teal jackal]

Mw2 AND smoothie

now thats lit

[crude saffron]

quant doesn’t rly have enough granularity tbh, qt and qr are p diff

[teal jackal]

to many dumb ass every game mode in cod is tdm

man mw2 is LIT
i can not wait to play more of this shit

tbh as a fast paced fps it has a learning curve to it for someone new

but this game is a lot of fun

im excited to play more throughout the year

rust is interesting

seems like a headache for my monkey brain though

we have to do typescript for the software dev class at my college and i already hate it

[marble bronze]

At least it's not plain JS

[teal jackal]

i will say i get why TS is needed

plain js is just

[calm shale]

there's nothing to hate : |

[wheat seal]

TS is hella nice tho

@rain patio u have any good green smoothie recipe

Does that taste good tho?

Why u don’t put almond milk

Too

U know what would be good tho

Frozen avocado

Kale

Whey protein

And banana and almond milk

Imma actually try that tmr

[calm shale]

yoo avocado in shake sounds hella good actually

[wheat seal]

Sautéed right

It looks hella dry

Also I forgot almond milk btw

Always put almond milk in smoothies

Unsweetened

[obtuse schooner]

yes, see std::collections

[clever orbit]

does hackerank do more tests than the hidden ones?

[teal jackal]

Mw2 is awesome

[rain patio]

Hi! I'm in my last year of university and I don't know yet what to choose. To apply for a new grad role or to pursue a Master's degree and continue to apply for internships for this summer. I haven't practiced algorithms for a year and I don't know system design at all. I'm concerned that a month is not enough to prepare for interviews. Also this year is a tough one since most companies have reduced the number of positions. What do you recommend to do?

[teal jackal]

You're not gonna be getting a lot of interviews anyways

Cycle is brutal

I'd apply for jobs now and start prepping

If you took algos and ds a lot of it will come back to u

[rain patio]

and what other topics you recommend to learn?

i heard that niche companies also ask you about operating systems, low-level, etc

[weak latch]

typescript >>>> javascript

ReactTS 😳

[weak latch]

don't let "oh i feel like im not prepared" be the reason you spend $30k on a masters

A masters is a big financial commitment (without scholarships that is) so you should only do it if this is what you actually want

if you really wanted to avoid the new grad market this year, you can take up a job at a small local company, which should be easy to get, then apply for a bunch of new grad roles next year. Most of them say graduated within 12 months anyway and you'll have a bit of money and experience by then

[rain patio]

I'm in a country where we have 99% public universities, so money are not the problem

[weak latch]

I see

[rain patio]

is there any resource with the questions asked in OAs and interviews at niche companies? (other than MAANG)

also, can I still apply for internships in US? I'm from Poland and I heard that in US the recruiting is earlier than in EMEA, for us it has just begun

[austere grove]

How do you get food stamps

[teal jackal]

Object oriented principles, Systems and networking principles, and programming language trivia

[teal jackal]

Wait you need a visa right?

In that case start applying for grad school too

[knotty talon]

Anyone has any tips to prepare for Pinterest?

Do they ask LC tagged?

[uncut umbra]

seems like to have the best possible chance at any company's OA you gotta know java, python and cpp to avoid the complete dicking

[timber topaz]

Any channel or links for Entry Level/New Grad data science roles?

[short shadow]

guys, has anyone here interview with IMC for the SWE Intern role in amsterdam? (not chicago)

[civic summit]

DraftKings Oa doesn’t allow python

[uncut umbra]

draftkings, plus trading companies like cpp

and java is a good OA language cause nearly every non-trading company is okay with you knowing java as a starter

[weak latch]

Like I always say

Java is BASED

[autumn ridge]

Whatever state you live in should have a agency that handles government assistance. I believe every state is different but in AZ you have to be under a certain income threshold and working.

[austere grove]

so im thinking about selling plasma, getting foodstamps, and collecting unemployment until i can get a job again

[autumn ridge]

I think you should 100% take advantage of any government assistance available to you.

[livid yew]

fair but a LOT of places still use java

bet get used to it

[normal palm]

[weak latch]

Java is still a top common language in the industry rn

[teal jackal]

Does anyone have any thoughts on working at OCI vs something like Oracle netsuite

[livid yew]

it will be for at least the next decade

[vast rock]

Alright yall java ppl hate to break it to ya cpp simply the supreme

[lament summit]

hate to break it to ya python simply the supreme

[lament summit]

dont go oracle

in general

[teal jackal]

bro

im doing it for the pay

youre really implying i have a choice

[lament summit]

then pay -> oci

[teal jackal]

id be lucky to even get an oracle interview

[lament summit]

oci pays so much better

oci pay is kinda nutty

220-230 in texas ng

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree

is oracle culture tolerabe

like does anyone think working at oracle is a nightmare

on another topic, MW2 is fun. i kinda missed call of duty as opposed to playing the traditional 5v5 fps game.

in CoD you can still have fun even with a bad team, its better for solo players

[teal jackal]

finna play search and destroy
this is probably gonna be the game mode that mentally destroys me

yeah i already lost my will to live

[rain patio]

S&d is boring

Play demolition

Spawn trap

[lament summit]

regular oracle ull just be hanging with old ppl

oci its just another aws/gcp/azure vibe

[teal jackal]

Ah makes sense

I'll talk to my family friend about his advice

If I can apply for all roles I'm gonna apply for all

[teal jackal]

search and destroy is like csgo with shit maps

[austere grove]

I applied to regular Oracle and oci with referral

Ghosyed

[teal jackal]

I'll probably be ghosted too

[uncut umbra]

did twitter close permanently for next year or smth

[teal jackal]

probably

tbf what does twitter even need that many engineers for

i wanna work at activision now

CoD is LIT

[uncut umbra]

to break down democracy further

[teal jackal]

im gonna work on my game dev portfolio

and apply for game dev companies

and i hope to work on a game like CoD

one day you all will see my name on the credits

[lone rapids]

People who require sponsorship, are you getting any phone call or interviews?

[cobalt siren]

Anyone able to share how atlassian OA was?

[teal jackal]

mw2 search and destroy sucks

since the average player plays with a tdm mentality

[rain patio]

Me

[austere grove]

I need to escape the job hunt asap

I feel like I’m slowly losing my humanity day by day

[shrewd sparrow]

pretty straightforward implementation questions, not really that much thinking algo-wise

[cobalt siren]

Gotcha thanks! Still LC style tho right? And this was for SWE not SRE right?

[shrewd sparrow]

yeah still lc style, but trickier in implementation than algo, and yes this is SWE

[cobalt siren]

oof that sounds worse to me haha, what difficulty LC were they?

[shrewd sparrow]

easy to medium

[cobalt siren]

gotcha thanks so much! Did you move past

[shrewd sparrow]

yep, got all test cases and moved on

[cobalt siren]

Sweet good luck! how long did it take to hear back? And do you know what the overall process is after OA?

[teal jackal]

mood

yo play mw2 bro

u can probably affordi t anyways

[austere grove]

I need to wait for my next unemployment check to come I

[lone rapids]

which company

So you got phone or interviews with all of them?

Damn goated

how many internships on ur resume?

[teal jackal]

Honestly call of duty is awesome

It's helped me cope with how awful of a recruiting season it's been

Call of duty is my mental equivalent of grass touching

CoD Reminds me to enjoy life

[cobalt siren]

touching grass is even better

but games are still fun

[teal jackal]

I'm not an outdoors person

So I play vidya instead

[low scroll]

the amount of cope I'm seeing

[teal jackal]

How did u tell

Lmaooo

Honestly it's a mix of school prestige, actual resume skills, and luck that's why I'm getting screwed this season

The latter two mostly

[outer radish]

wb 3 internships and A

[teal jackal]

First point isn't that important but probably would have done a bit for me

[outer radish]

and A. Deez Nutz

[oak patrol]

People who interned at Affirm this summer, anyone got a return offer from them?

[devout plume]

so i know faang and similar tiered startups are the name of the game but what's the climate like with companies below them

[misty night]

Has anyone given the 2x60 format interview for amazon? I have mine lined up for day after tomorrow. No idea what to expect

[azure zephyr]

what are some examples of companies below them?

[serene fable]

What companies are in between those two?

[teal jackal]

fuck im so bad at cod

what companies are attainable with prior amazon internship

[serene fable]

Probably no companies in particular, it just raises your chances overall

[last belfry]

Is jpm a good new grad job ?

[static moth]

ya

[sonic coral]

Literally most

[teal jackal]

not me tho

im built diff

[sonic coral]

I mean yeah you still gotta pass the interviews

But getting interviews is quite doable with an amazon internship

It’s still faang after all

[solemn crag]

bloomberg final tmr🙏

[normal palm]

not really lol

[teal jackal]

has not worked for me lmao

[rustic vessel]

Recruiting season has been dry

[sonic coral]

I mean fair enough, I was mainly speaking to my experience last year