2023_grads

[teal jackal]

benchling is still ghosting me

[pure plank]

Has Amazon freezed hiring for New Grad for now??

[uneven grove]

How long did it take to get the reject email? If you don’t mind me asking

[hasty birch]

Pretty much

[foggy perch]

like a few weeks

[pure plank]

Anyone still getting OAs in the past week?

[wind drum]

nah i applied like a week ago tho

[foggy perch]

i dont remember since I haphazardly applied to benchling

[foggy perch]

rip

[pure plank]

Hmm.. Sad

[foggy perch]

I got pinterest oa 1 day after app rip

who has no canada

[pure plank]

I got a reject today

[foggy perch]

basically or "waitlist"

[uneven grove]

I got OA from Pinterest after 6 days

[pure plank]

Hmm. Okay

[weak latch]

Google practice OA had DP

[pure plank]

The current market is really fucked up..

Hopefully situation will improve by Oct - Nov

[old smelt]

Doesn't look like it, the economy isn't doing well

[pure plank]

I know.. We are the unlucky ones. Those who graduated last year were really lucky

[weak latch]

nah

i wouldn't say so tbh

[uneven grove]

TFW companies over hire during the pandemic

[weak latch]

a lot of them are gonna be the ones who get laid off

[teal jackal]

2021 goated year tbh

everyone was on a spending frenzy

best economy

[small mountain]

i was gonna graduate last year but shit happened so i had to take time out

FML

[rustic vessel]

I was going to graduate but then I had no offers

[uneven grove]

My company stock dropped to 1/8 it’s price from when I signed to when I joined

[outer radish]

tbh market gonna be metro booming

hit soft landing then companies are gonna be clamouring to hire

[compact obsidian]

stock dropping before you join is good tho

[small mountain]

no shot

[compact obsidian]

assuming ur company doesn't fail or lay you off

[outer radish]

people still have so much cash saved up, stock markets are gonna be booming with consumers buying the dip

[compact obsidian]

and you start vesting on join date

[rustic vessel]

Is there really going to be a soft landing tho

[teal jackal]

i just had a project idea

recipe visualizer

seems hard

[pure plank]

Damn

[outer radish]

yeah probably

[polar moat]

Anyone completed PMG aptitude test?

[teal jackal]

its all speculative, but i get what youre saying.

a lot of people signed onto companies with pretty shaky prospects

no idea if theyd survive interest rate hikes

[outer radish]

realistically, if the fed solves inflation by starting a recession

[late kestrel]

yeah

[outer radish]

it'd be the dumbest fiscal policy strategy

[modern socket]

i mean

[shrewd ocean]

thats exactly what theyre doing

[modern socket]

i think the fed just wants to slow inflation rn

[rustic vessel]

Tell me when there’s been a soft landing before

[modern socket]

imo the fact that the inflation is so stubborn points to how panicked everyone is

[polar moat]

Can you please check your DM

[outer radish]

tbh never and im smoking so much copium rn

[modern socket]

if good inflation numbers start coming, the fed might loosen up

[outer radish]

its fucked tho cause across the board, actual stats arent that bad - at least from what I've heard from podcasts and read from financial papers

its just consumer sentiment is tanked

[modern socket]

yeah that's what i'm saying

[outer radish]

idk if that'll happen anytime soon though if good numbers do come up

[modern socket]

so i think we just need to get it under control, stabilize the economy

and then try to improve the job market

but yeah we might have to eat shit for awhile

imo this is the net result of covid

[rustic vessel]

Too much money printing

[modern socket]

like in order to create that miraculous rebound we gave out a shit ton of loans and increased the supply of money which led to this otherwordly inflation

and that in turn eroded consumer confidence

[shrewd ocean]

ye pandemic money printing was insane

[teal jackal]

i think the thing that we're salty about is that it's US who got sacrificed for this

[modern socket]

yeah blame the GOP for insisting on forcing a recovery that was not going to happen as quickly as it did

[tidal mulch]

does “completing your application on untapped” actually do anything?

[teal jackal]

like the average person operates on a "fuck you i got mine lmao" mindset

dont care about screwing people over as long as it doesnt screw over too many people who can start a revolt or some shit

[modern socket]

we should've just halted the economy for awhile and let covid remain under control but instead we tried to crowbar our way back into a normal economy and society

[teal jackal]

as long as its invisible

people can be sacrificed

[modern socket]

fuck you buddy i got mine

[shrewd ocean]

i mean covid wass never a real problem

[modern socket]

lol yes it was

[shrewd ocean]

media overblew it

[modern socket]

bro in the early days of the pandemic we fs couldn't have known either way

even if it hadn't been

[outer radish]

pumped the absolute shit outta the market to force the recovery

[modern socket]

we can't just assume that it isn't

[modern socket]

fuck the GOP

fucking morons

[outer radish]

i literally shoulda graduated last year, then got 1 year fte instead of zon internship like this shit is bust

[outer radish]

FUCK THE GOP FACTS

[teal jackal]

zon has good resume value tho right

we both ex-zon

[modern socket]

bro the GOP did this bc their base wanted a return to normalcy

[outer radish]

naw they're mad smart though, cause they've gotten so many people to believe their absolute bullshit

[serene fable]

Pumping money was definitely necessary, it was probably too much though, and not targeted well

[outer radish]

yeah it does, but it aint helping this year

[teal jackal]

and the convenient thing is that everyone thinks its bidens fault

[modern socket]

and now they're gonna blame the democrats for the inflation that the fucking GOP caused

[modern socket]

YUP

[modern socket]

i know they're smart

[teal jackal]

yeah i feel that rn

[modern socket]

smarter than the fucking democratic pundits

[teal jackal]

we're in the same boat right

[modern socket]

my friend got a netflix OA with zon

[outer radish]

yeah pretty much

[outer radish]

holy shit cad or american position tho

[modern socket]

american

[teal jackal]

tbh starting full time probably would have also been good resume value

[modern socket]

are u from cad?

[outer radish]

toronto born and raised

[teal jackal]

job hop market is less cutthroat since a lot of people get content and dont want to hop so soon

[modern socket]

lmao fuck canada

[outer radish]

but canada really keeping the mandem down

FACTS

[outer radish]

plus any internship experience you have isnt counted as actual experience in job apps which absolutely sucks

[modern socket]

canada is just a weaker america with a european superiority complex

[teal jackal]

vancouver is SICK

seems like such a cool place to live

unfortunately everyone had the same idea

[buoyant fable]

what is the generally accepted optimal length of stay at a first company post grad before hopping?

[foggy perch]

2-3

[modern socket]

a year

[outer radish]

i lived there this summer for my zon internship

[modern socket]

maybe 2

[teal jackal]

id say 1 year is enough for people to not side eye you for hopping so soon

[modern socket]

depends entirely on the company

[outer radish]

honestly one of the best cities to live in, but jesus fuck i bought 4 peaches for 16 dollars like how tf is food so expensive there

[buoyant fable]

what if the company is general motors

[foggy perch]

I don't think that many people are getting L3->L4 with 1 yoe job hop tho

[modern socket]

immediately

[foggy perch]

maybe 1 yoe gets you L3 -> L3

[modern socket]

leave before u even get an offer

[shrewd ocean]

so r most of yall just set on ur return or what

[teal jackal]

job hop in 1 year is more like, hopping to a more prestigious company

[foggy perch]

true

[teal jackal]

3 years is about the time to uplevel

[modern socket]

that's the point of context

at fb i'd say 1 could be enough

[foggy perch]

rly

[teal jackal]

tbh i think its reasonable to hop to a new company for prestige and pay, with no uplevel

[foggy perch]

I feel like 1 yoe fb job hop will still be very very hard

to get L4

[modern socket]

i've heard of e3->e4 in 1 psc

so half a year

nah

it's doable if you're a high performer

[foggy perch]

how would the other company know

if you're a high performer

[teal jackal]

hop to or out of fb

[modern socket]

what

[foggy perch]

since everyone will claim they're a high performer

[modern socket]

bro fb would uplevel in that time

[foggy perch]

oh are you saying 1 yoe promo at fb

[modern socket]

u can get 1/2 yoe promo at fb

[teal jackal]

wow

thats wild

no wonder fb is a cash cow for cs majors

[modern socket]

i mean

[teal jackal]

too bad c/o 23 got locked out

no meta for us

[modern socket]

my first half of my internship

[teal jackal]

[foggy perch]

wack guess we'll see if that stays the same

[outer radish]

successfactors job apps can actually die

[modern socket]

my manager said i was performing at e4 level

[foggy perch]

since I imagine Meta is going to finally have to reconsider some things

with how shit it's been going

[uncut umbra]

meta came to my uni last week

[modern socket]

at meta all that matters is if ur performing at a high enough level that u could realistically perform the next level

[uncut umbra]

and was like "yeah we plan on opening new grad apps soon"

[foggy perch]

sus

[uncut umbra]

"just gotta figure out headcount more concretely"

yeah probs sus

[outer radish]

FUCK YES

PLEASE META

[foggy perch]

they're capping

lmao

[outer radish]

I AM DYING

[uncut umbra]

I mean low odds that they accept too many people

[teal jackal]

im gonna email my recruiter from last year

[foggy perch]

I bet my left nut that Meta won't open new grad apps this month

[buoyant fable]

sorry if this is a v stupid question but do people find it likely that meta could be no longer considered a big N and a different company would rise to the forefront in terms of power/ influence in its place?

[uncut umbra]

already tried lol, my application-specific recruiter isn't responding

[foggy perch]

I think Meta will fall eventually unless they make a good product again

[uncut umbra]

i.e. doesn't read my emails

[teal jackal]

say "hi do u know if meta is planning on hiring or if theres any roles that might be interesting" or whatever

[outer radish]

why tf did zuck think spending billions monthly on a wii moji looking ass would be worth it

[uncut umbra]

verbatim my email

[foggy perch]

^

[outer radish]

on some real shit

[teal jackal]

Meta is still hiring prod engineer new grads, since nobody wants to do it

[compact obsidian]

what's prod engineer?

like sre?

[teal jackal]

also the prod engineer process is MAD hard

yeah meta's equivalent of SRE

[wicked rivet]

lol PE GE interns didn't get offers yet

[teal jackal]

i got a recruiter referral for meta PE intern last year

my magnum opus of RNG

[lilac siren]

when will they open pe roles?

[teal jackal]

failed the PE interview so recruiter got me an SWE interview

idk

[prime palm]

Why didn't you get GE,

Dude I got MA

I'm not getting off this waitiist

[teal jackal]

what's MA?

[prime palm]

Should I apply to Facebook ng when it opens lol

[weak latch]

untapped is auto isn't it

for all the companies that use it

[prime palm]

Yeah

[weak latch]

i assume everyone has to do it

thought so

[teal jackal]

99% chance its auto

[prime palm]

It's honestly possible

They're bleeding a lot of money rn

Even my manager said he didn't believe in mark's vision

2b into the metaverse and I doubt it's about to take off

But

Who knows

Instagram is still huge

[teal jackal]

i still think thats a bit absurd

[prime palm]

I didn't know this but, they're actually selling oculus headsets at a loss too

The money from headsets comes from the games

[buoyant fable]

this is true, though i see instagram taking the route of fb. very anecdotal ik but i find myself using the app less and less because of recent updates. though if its still expanding in new territories i guess that the experience for my demographic is irrelevant

[prime palm]

Which, lowkey true, I did buy an oculus and drop $50 on games alone

[foggy perch]

barely anyone's producing vr games tho

since vr games are such a niche market still

[weak latch]

microsoftttt

[teal jackal]

i dont buy anything from oculus store, i use steam games

but making VR games is mad fun tbh

[prime palm]

I like my oculus lol

Beatsaber goes hard

[teal jackal]

unityXR is lit

[prime palm]

There's no social media titan that can replace instagram rn anyways

Def not Snapchat

[teal jackal]

im actually working on an FPS volleyball game rn for my senior capstone

[prime palm]

Not BeReal

Not twitter

[teal jackal]

i want to VRify my volleyball game at some point

after i finish the project

[uncut umbra]

please do, ya boy needs to get better at his timing

tfw you tip more spikes with your head than your hands

[buoyant fable]

the people around me use social media less in general now compared to 1, 2, 3 years ago

[old smelt]

ig is a regurgitation of Tiktok at this point

[chilly burrow]

U mean TikTok Now?

[teal jackal]

zuck has a lot of anxiety over tiktok but tbh i dont see tiktok outright replacing instagram

nah

bereal is corny and not actually real

that shit gonna die

[uncut umbra]

low odds tiktok replaces tiktok u right

[teal jackal]

mb

granted, i do not use bereal and never will

i do not need more social media in my life

[prime palm]

Ehhhh I still like the photo sharing aspect of instagram

Your feed, stories, are nice

I will say every 3 posts is an ad

Going through stories are also ads

[buoyant fable]

instagram feed is all annoying reels from influencers now

[prime palm]

Reels from accounts I don't follow are all over my page

[uncut umbra]

I have a lot of social media but it's just to chat

I don't really use it aside from like reddit and idk if that counts

[prime palm]

I love Reddit

[modern socket]

i didn’t do any work after midpoints

[uncut umbra]

I want all social media aside from the one I'm currently using to die

[teal jackal]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/329/641/46a.png

Pretty much instagram now

[modern socket]

spent a lot of time w my gf and not a lot of time doing any work

[prime palm]

I couldn't sneak my gf into the fb office unfortunately

I thought they'd allow visitors this summer

Cringe

[modern socket]

lmfao

[buoyant fable]

even home isnt my stuff, though maybe i just dont follow people who post much so i get the reels on my home as well

[whole berry]

damn bro

i had this problem over the summer

but not anymore

im now self made

self made goofy

[calm shale]

snuck my gf into cb office lol

registered her for a meeting and just walked her right in

[uncut umbra]

dump the girl, get the dough, that's the strat

[buoyant fable]

what are ur guys thoughts on affinity groups at companies? worth ur time to get involved?

[uncut umbra]

except in my case my gf is smarter than I am

[late kestrel]

if you align/are interested then why not?

good way to make friends or at least make a difference

[prime palm]

San frna office?

[calm shale]

ye

[vestal pelican]

Had anyone here done the Quant trader IMC phone?

[rich night]

HRT OA auto?

[lilac siren]

yes

[lament summit]

wheres meta ft at

[night magnet]

ong

[uneven grove]

How long did people take to hear back from Duolingo or Palantir OA?

[thorn walrus]

got perfect on duolingo oa still haven't heard back

[dreamy elbow]

does anyone know if the HRT codesignal is GCA?

[thorn walrus]

for core yes

[dreamy elbow]

I don't see an option to use an old score

[thorn walrus]

it has to be a test past a certain date

[modest night]

source????

[uneven grove]

Yeah same

[dreamy elbow]

hm it was 10 days ago

should be fine

[thorn walrus]

oh hm idk then

[modest night]

bro im so desperate rn ill da work anywhere 😭😭

[dreamy elbow]

hm thanks doe!

[clever orbit]

how many codesignals can you do in a weeks span?

[uneven grove]

I emailed the Duolingo recruiter about finishing it as a like a small nudge and still nothing lol

I tell myself they’re not interviewing yet

[thorn walrus]

did the same, told them i had a deadline

ghosted

[uneven grove]

I only mentioned early phone screens and ghosted lol

Smh

Also hoping to hear back from flatiron health

[frosty shoal]

any idea what this means

my job status changed but i havent gone through any interviews?

this is for amazon btw

[thorn walrus]

do you go to a t10 @uneven grove

[modest night]

sorry to say

[uneven grove]

Nah

[modest night]

but you may have been rejected

[frosty shoal]

yeah i thought so too

[outer radish]

good

that measn good usually

[frosty shoal]

oh

wow what a rollercoster of emotions lol

everyone i see online that gets this message is usually after they interview, its so confusing to me that i got moved before any interviews

[teal jackal]

wait

"moved to another job" is becoming bad now?

[frosty shoal]

no idea

[teal jackal]

i thought it was only good

[uneven grove]

You guys are getting amazon application updates?

[frosty shoal]

lmfao

[uneven grove]

[frosty shoal]

if i manage to get this job without interviewing ill acc die

Oh

How long did it take to hear back after the status change?

[elder hull]

databricks calling me in 10 mins

hope they don't call to reject

[frosty shoal]

Ah ok thanks for the info

[chilly burrow]

Gl 🙏

[soft edge]

General question: which companies (like c1) have closed new grad apps?

[elder hull]

google

[teal jackal]

google 2023 ng is a scam

[dense seal]

google ng will open again, i went to an event today and someone asked the recruiter

[lilac siren]

yes

[uneven grove]

Aren’t they on a hiring freeze?

Friend saw it on blind or something

[lilac siren]

the google recruiter also told me that

but they dont know when they will open again

[blissful sonnet]

Will Google review apps submitted in August?

[lilac siren]

and they confirm they are not processing our applications

[uneven grove]

So they’re on a hiring freeze but will also open up NG apps?

Ig they’ll look when they’re unfrozen?

[azure zephyr]

good luck to you homie

keep us updated

[elder hull]

yeah call's in 1 minute

thanks bro

[frosty shoal]

calls are good

usually recruiters ghost me lol

[elder hull]

except for those ass companies who call to reject

[frosty shoal]

LMFAO

[outer radish]

how tf are you guys linking all these recruiters

[maiden ice]

It seems right now only ppl that were reached out by recruiters went through the process

[teal jackal]

i had referral so i hope im front of the line

if they ever restart

[wicked rivet]

how long does the oa take to send to u after pinterest next steps email

[elder hull]

got it

[lament summit]

LETS GO

congrats

[lament summit]

should be instant

[chilly burrow]

Yoooooooo 🔥🔥🔥

Congrats

[lament summit]

return? or na

[elder hull]

not return

[lament summit]

sheeesh u passed db in this time

mega cracked

did u get any dp

or hards

[elder hull]

interviewers are nice

[chilly burrow]

Solace is da 🐐 no 🧢

[elder hull]

no

pretty straight meds

but a lot of testcases

you have to think of by yourself

[lament summit]

damn

thats nice

[sage sluice]

anyone interviewed with Kaseya?

[lament summit]

why the sob

LOL

[azure zephyr]

slay

gonna take it?

[outer radish]

anyone with a referral do any better in the amazon process

cause i got three of them mfs stacked but idk if that makes any difference

[late kestrel]

period bitch

[late kestrel]

yeah i got 17 referrals and got 14 offers

might need to work 560 hour weeks but for the TC, we'll make it work

[weak latch]

can men go to GHC

i'd lowkey wanna go bc it looks like a lotttt of companies go there

it's in my city

[lilac siren]

 u need ticket

[weak latch]

cringe

[azure zephyr]

so to me GHC is an opportunity for women to have a safe space in tech since, lets face it, its a very male dominated industry and women can sometimes feel less than. idk how welcome you'd be intruding (in a sense) on that

[weak latch]

the networking tho

what other conferences are there that are at a similar scale to ghc

not really any

maybe just tapia

[azure zephyr]

somebody earlier said its not as hype as it seems anyways

[weak latch]

fair

[tulip mountain]

anyone else just kind of eternally ghosted

[dusky plover]

werent people getting directly hired at GHC lmfa

[azure zephyr]

idk apparently not big tech companies doing that

[weak latch]

yes

[lament summit]

yes

[weak latch]

people do final interviews on the spot and get offers 😂, i think you submit your resume and companies will send OAs, then the final happens at the convention and you get offer 😂

[dusky plover]

i get ghosted hella

but i just apply to like 200+ apps by now

[weak latch]

yeah bro it's tough rn

[teal jackal]

i created a new resume with a fake email

not fake

[dusky plover]

this my pipes

[azure zephyr]

im at 96 apps kms

[teal jackal]

an alt email

[lament summit]

im at 79

[weak latch]

im almost at 40 rn

[teal jackal]

57 apps -> 1 interview -> 0 offers

[azure zephyr]

what was your pinterest oa score btw?

[weak latch]

slackin

[dusky plover]

844

[lament summit]

thats not ghost

[dusky plover]

turned in an old one

[weak latch]

when did you apply to vmware?

[teal jackal]

geez thats pretty cracked, 13 interviews

[weak latch]

they just ghosting me

[dusky plover]

like a long ass time ago

[lament summit]

whats on ur resume

[weak latch]

that's a lot of OAs tho, impressive stuff

[dusky plover]

they ghosted me since i turned in 100% oa

[teal jackal]

men dont get any of the perks of ghc

[weak latch]

make sankey

[azure zephyr]

hmm im wondering what pinterest oa cut off is. you think anything 800+ is good?

[weak latch]

sadge

[dusky plover]

no big n just like 4 intern exp

[dusky plover]

should be good ya

[azure zephyr]

i just got 820 on practice codesignal but i literally skipped Q3 lmao

[teal jackal]

i think nothing is stopping men from going to info sessions, but the on the spot interviews arent for men

[azure zephyr]

which i now see is the way

[weak latch]

where is my arabs in tech convention

[dusky plover]

bro where is my east asians in tech con

[weak latch]

good luck lol

[teal jackal]

wheres my italians in tech

[weak latch]

they're already trying to limit y'all 😂

mama mia

[sudden sequoia]

anyone get past ziprecruiter codesignal?

[weak latch]

make a sankey

[lone rapids]

Zip recruiter is a shitty company anyways

[azure zephyr]

what big tech companies haven't released apps yet? stripe, square, meta come to mind rn

[teal jackal]

asians be suffering from self-made success

[dusky plover]

ok later

too lazy rn

[lilac siren]

I heard stripe will not hire NG this season

[teal jackal]

im really not surprised they arent

[dusky plover]

gusto isnt hiring

meta released intern apps

[lilac siren]

all the hc are for intern return

[dusky plover]

bruhhh

[modest night]

i think meta will but they prolly wont take anyone

prolly just gonna put it up to not gonna media backlash or sumthing

[lilac siren]

I have applied a square non-NG role and wait for the reject

[lament summit]

ah 4 intern i see

[dusky plover]

yea

i mean i can send it to u if u want its nothing that special tho

[lament summit]

same here i didnt even get rippling oa

two of mines are big n

[dusky plover]

oh i was at the rippling open house thing

[lament summit]

ohhh

[dusky plover]

i prob wont have gotten their oa if i didnt go

[fallen hornet]

hrt not sending codesignals anymore?

[split plaza]

does Pinterest ghost

[teal jackal]

Tbh people would still gladly accept even if they don't get return offer

Meta resume value is still a cut above Amazon

[teal jackal]

Nah

They resume rj

Fast turnaround too

[split plaza]

been 10 days and I haven't heard back

[weak latch]

my sankey

[lament summit]

what is "Next Steps"

[weak latch]

hirevue for example

where you submit video answers

[teal jackal]

I'll make one for myself

[dusky plover]

bro this is fucking goated for only 35 apps

[teal jackal]

Hirevue counts

[weak latch]

some kind of "next step" but not rly an oa

[teal jackal]

Bro Darth does this also count automated OAs

[weak latch]

a couple were automated yeah

[teal jackal]

I'm convinced I'm on a federal watchlist and that's preventing me from getting a job

[weak latch]

3 OAs were auto (Cap1, Cisco, Roblox)

[modest night]

bro it does not help

trust

[teal jackal]

I was unfortunately in group chats that did a little too much trolling

[modest night]

i have had 0 ppl hit me up

[teal jackal]

Damn

[teal jackal]

Same

[lament summit]

i think now u need at least 2 big Ns

[weak latch]

My resume is basically just amazon lol

I don't rly have amazing projects, just a web app project i did for a class 😂 with a group of 5 people 💀

[teal jackal]

Me neither

[modest night]

like for example, jane st

[teal jackal]

Nah js rejects everyone

[modest night]

i applied to jane st and even went to one of their office hosted events and won the entire event

and i still got fukin rejected

[weak latch]

You guys think i can submit a recursive top down solution to a google oa 😂

[teal jackal]

I just mean I want to apply to other big n companies as a new grad

[weak latch]

it says prioritize correctness 😂

[teal jackal]

Competition is brutal. I should have applied harder to fall internships

[weak latch]

Also, y'all think being a TA for DSA class is valuable for resume?

[teal jackal]

When the competition for big n new grad roles have done 3 good internships, it's hard to compete with only one

[weak latch]

im wondering if i should make space for that

[celest whale]

It is more valuable when applying for academic roles

[modest night]

this economy aint goin back to normal till like 2-3 years later

[teal jackal]

I kept TAing on my resume to display soft skills

[weak latch]

I guess the value in it would be that it's for a data structures/algos class

[dusky plover]

I JUST WANT A JOB CUH

[teal jackal]

I have enough space for my 2 internships, my TAing, and 3 projects

[low scroll]

FR CUH

[weak latch]

I have 2 internships, 1 project, a little bit of coursework, education, and tech skills

[low scroll]

where'd you intern at

[weak latch]

i have some whitespace on my resume so i can defo fit some more on there

[teal jackal]

Da zon

[cobalt siren]

Are we all listing our resumes or something

[low scroll]

where else

[wind drum]

i have been ghosted i think

[teal jackal]

Small IT devops company, still paid 30 an hour tho

[celest whale]

If u have space then might as well add it. No harm imo

[ivory parrot]

Since amazon is slowing hiring + waitlist, do you guys think I should just accept their offer even though the deadline is in a month and a half?

[low scroll]

drop your resume on thread, maybe your formatting is off

[low scroll]

yes

just renege if you need

[ivory parrot]

Accept and renege later🤔

[weak latch]

bruh i worked at a relatively decent sized defense company (~500 people) and got paid $15/hour

non-negotiable

[low scroll]

😭

[ivory parrot]

Any reason why? Do you think they are capable of taking their offer back? if they going to rescind, i think they will do it regardless whether you have signed the offer or not

[weak latch]

it doesn't matter if you've signed or not

when it comes to them rescinding

they'll just rescind it anyway if they really wanted to

don't overthink it, accept the offer

[low scroll]

really

I thought signing would make a difference

[weak latch]

nah lol

[low scroll]

because you made everything official

signed contract

[weak latch]

they can still rescind

[low scroll]

yeah but I'd assume it's more troublesome

[weak latch]

doesn't mean they won't do it

it doesn't make a difference

[ivory parrot]

Which is more likely? Rescinding signed offer or taking back proposed offer?

[weak latch]

dude

don't overthink it

if this is your first offer just accept it

[wind drum]

i'd bet on proposed but i bet it would be very similar odds

[ivory parrot]

I just feel reneging will look bad. But yeah I will probably just accept it.

[weak latch]

the only reason you don't accept is if you wanna negotiate, which if this is amazon, you can't even negotiate anyway

get it out of your head that reneging is somehow a bad thing

worst case scenario you get blacklisted from the company, who cares

you're another number to these big companies

they don't care if you renege

[outer radish]

I'll trade u an offer for a moon cake

[untold lava]

would you ask for referral from your team if you reneged

like for reference check in future

[weak latch]

???

that doesn't make any sense

ask my team at amazon for a reference after reneging amazon?

[untold lava]

yea

[late kestrel]

3 and youve got a deal

[weak latch]

the only way you can have the scenario is a return offer

[outer radish]

u drive a hard bargain but im game

min 200k tc offer tho

moon cakes are expensive tehse days fam

bare inflation

[untold lava]

this is true

would you tho

[late kestrel]

ok. ill give you my unpaid revature janitor internship offer. its worth $250k for the soul @outer radish

[untold lava]

hypothetically

[weak latch]

I'd only renege if I had another offer, so i wouldn't need references by then

[marble bronze]

Sorry, CCP banned inflating their prices.

Though my mom said "they renamed them celebration cakes in HK to get around it"

[weak latch]

And if its further in the future, i wouldn't need to ask that team for references because i can ask my more recent team

[untold lava]

some offers require 3 reference checks tho

[compact obsidian]

how tf do u make a nice looking sankey

mine looks jank af

[untold lava]

man this is a rip

[marble bronze]

God damn 3 offers

[compact obsidian]

1 is return tho

so really only 2 offers

and spacex cant match msft in terms of wlb

and havent got formal offer from bb yet but i dont think they can match smft either

so really only 0 new offers that matter

[marble bronze]

Oh it can, just the other way around

[weak latch]

that's impressive, 2 non-return offers in 81 apps

[compact obsidian]

ok but fr tho what program do yall use for sankey

i jsut used some online editor

[weak latch]

https://sankeymatic.com/build/

lol

[compact obsidian]

o

the same

lmao

[marble bronze]

Help me budget better

[sweet urchin]

Candles

[weak latch]

i recreated yours @compact obsidian

i think i fucked up a couple of the numbers tho 😂 oops

[compact obsidian]

dang that looks better

squiggls

o dang

yeah 240 is p good

idk what CoL adj from redmond to nyc is

online it ranges anywhere from like 15-60%

[weak latch]

okay i fixed it lol

[sweet urchin]

bro what

[compact obsidian]

i told bb recruiter i had 191 offer from msft so we'll see what they reply with

[late kestrel]

has anyone besides that one dude last year gotten higher than $220k tho

[weak latch]

isn't bb higher tc than msft?

bb is like 200 right

[compact obsidian]

ye bc nyc col >>> redmond col

[late kestrel]

no nego its around $180k

[weak latch]

fair

honestly i'd take microsoft

even if bb is higher tc

[sweet urchin]

yeah, no, BB is like 180 recurring with neg

[compact obsidian]

i'll take bb if i get like 230+ from em

[sweet urchin]

and any bonuses

[compact obsidian]

msft no free food >:(

[modest night]

anyone ever gotten seat geek final😭

[weak latch]

msft is the dream bro

[marble bronze]

no

[weak latch]

tell msft to respond to my app 😠

been almost 2 months

[sweet urchin]

im in your same position, return from MS and in BB loop

[compact obsidian]

gl my brother 🤝

or sister

[weak latch]

what list of apps are you guys using to spam

[compact obsidian]

or non-binary-ster

[sweet urchin]

did you use BB to neg MS

[compact obsidian]

ye

[weak latch]

my guy, gal, or non-binary pal

[lament summit]

That’s all u need

[compact obsidian]

got +20k in stock over 4 years, +20k in bonus over 2 years

[sweet urchin]

ah gotcha

[lament summit]

R u already done

[weak latch]

that's not mine

[lament summit]

Or r u still recruiting

[weak latch]

that's @compact obsidian

[lament summit]

O

[sweet urchin]

so 118.4k/160k/55k?

[weak latch]

i haven't even done a final interview yet 😂

[compact obsidian]

129/130(+20)/30(+20)

[sweet urchin]

oh im dumb, got it

[compact obsidian]

ye im also dumb

[sweet urchin]

did you neg for L60?

[compact obsidian]

miscalcuated like 5 times

[sweet urchin]

or were you given it?

[compact obsidian]

nah im masters and i think msft auto gives l60 for all masters

[sweet urchin]

ah

[compact obsidian]

ye see above

[sweet urchin]

im a bacholers and im asking for L60 and 160k/60k lol

used BB to neg aswell

waiting to hear back lol

[compact obsidian]

honestly u could do it

i heard some dude just lied about having a google offer and he got like 200/75

[sweet urchin]

i had good performace duing intern so idk we'll see

yo he lied about that shit?

[compact obsidian]

msft never asked for my bb offer details or letter

[night magnet]

Goat behavior

[weak latch]

giga chad behavior

[compact obsidian]

ye

[sweet urchin]

his name start with a D?

[compact obsidian]

dunno

[sweet urchin]

nope, did final and feel pretty confident, didnt get invited to HR after tho some im sussed out

[compact obsidian]

apparently not

or if they did then he was able to BS his way through it with photoshop or whatever

[sweet urchin]

i told my recruiter I passed tech screen so hopefully it wont matter and ill get what i want from MS lol

[compact obsidian]

no just ask me here lol

[rancid sun]

most masters got l60, but they wont do 150k rsu and 50k sign on anymore; they said they ran out of mone

[compact obsidian]

yeah i asked for 170/70 and they gave me 150/50 😔

i should've asked for 200/90 :^]

[wheat meteor]

if anyone has gotten to the final round of 4 interview for amazon robotics please let me know, I am in need of help ;-;

[late kestrel]

someone go get a draftkings offer and fix their app my god it doesnt load

[rancid sun]

lol recruiter said 145/55 is easier than 150/50 so i go tthat instead

[compact obsidian]

well doesn't really matter to me

i aint staying at msft for 4 years

at most 2.5 years

[sweet urchin]

thats the idea lol

but i will say

our stock gunna vest right near the bottom of this recession prob

[rancid sun]

im leaving once i hit l61

[sweet urchin]

its gunna be nice af

[compact obsidian]

dunno i only have verbal bb offer rn

[rancid sun]

I just had call w recruiter like 30min ago

[bronze nymph]

bloomberg wont go this high with msft offer i dont think

[rancid sun]

they r lowering down on their negotiation number because earlier interns took all the money

[bronze nymph]

maybe 200-210 first year, that's about it

[sweet urchin]

BB none-neg offer is 155k/0k/17k i think

[rancid sun]

no sadly im PM and all the pm recruiting timeline is hella late this year, i had solid interviews which helped(Bain for consulting and optiver for trading)

yeah LOL she was very direct abt it, was like nah we cant give out those numbers anymore

[formal fable]

I don't get it. Vesting is basically is getting those stocks at the market price right? If we're vesting at bottom of recession, while getting allocated the stock numbers at a higher value right now, won't that mean we're getting less than whatever the current estimated value?

[sweet urchin]

so dumb bruh

[sweet urchin]

our stock is vested when you start

so for most people, sept 2023

[coral finch]

Location?

[rancid sun]

im p sure i can get offer mid october but thats after my deadline so i think ill just sign tbh

[compact obsidian]

1 week for me

[coral finch]

How long do you want

[compact obsidian]

oh

wait nvm im dumb

[coral finch]

Then enforce them

[compact obsidian]

i meant 1 week to offer decision as in how long it took from final round to offer

not 1 week to sign

[coral finch]

Ohhh

[compact obsidian]

1 week is insane lol

[coral finch]

Should be mandated for offer to last a year

[bronze nymph]

they don't

[blazing crystal]

Hey Guys,
I recently applied to Bloomberg with a referral and received a resume rejection a few days back. Is it advisable to apply again? I am graduating in December, so can someone suggest what should be the right time to apply again? Thanks a lot.

[bronze nymph]

whoever said that is misinformed

last year there was one offer at 300k negotiated with cit (i think)

you cannot get bloomberg to 240 with 99% of tech companies

[coral finch]

Bruh how

I got referred and they gave me a interview

[compact obsidian]

most companies will blacklist candidates for like 90 days after a rejection

even if they don't it's a good idea to wait for a bit

[coral finch]

I think they just reject you and set up an interview

They did for me cause I applied twice I think?

[bronze nymph]

155 base + ~20k bonus yearly -> 175 recurring, all you can usually negotiate is signing bonus

[blazing crystal]

You got a rejection earier?

earlier*

[lone rapids]

I got rejected from bb. They don’t sponsor or what?

[coral finch]

Referred by senior SWE yea, but I applied earlier than the referral they reject my earlier application and interview me anyway phone

[bronze nymph]

yea its def good, just not 240 in most cases

[lone rapids]

Man how do i get bloomberg to give me interview after reject ? Do i apply again?

[quick wraith]

recruiting is hard

[vast rock]

Yall can someone gimme a samsara link plz how tf r yall applying i cant find the job link. I have been spamming this lately no one wants to tell me plzzzz

[quick wraith]

thought having an internship will help me from getting resume rejected

[floral plank]

Let's go finally got pinterest phone

Thanks

[coral finch]

Everyone one and their mother interned somewhere

[floral plank]

At least my codesignal worked for once

[quick wraith]

fucking population rise

need a culling

[hexed moth]

dawg learn to use the search function it took me thirty seconds

https://boards.greenhouse.io/samsara/jobs/4475858?gh_jid=4475858

[vast rock]

Wait

HOW

[floral plank]

3 days

[lone rapids]

Pinterest doesnt sponsor

[vast rock]

ok im bad at maximizing this discord lol

[lone rapids]

😂

[vast rock]

didnt realize u can search this discord like this lol

[quick wraith]

even harder

[lone rapids]

^

[vast rock]

ty!

[lone rapids]

Samsara pls phone me

Like there r so many applicants it’s ridiculous

[floral plank]

They also haven't resume screen yet

[rain patio]

is 820 good enough for zipcruiter and pinterest?

[lone rapids]

Zip recruiter no

U r gonna get rejected from zip recruiter no matter ur score

[rain patio]

lmaooo tuff

did they close their applications or something

[lone rapids]

What if i apply for pinterest masters new grad as a undergrad. They do sponsor for that lol

[valid fable]

Does everyone get Pinterest technical after recruiter phone screen

[floral plank]

I had 819 and moved on for Pinterest

[solemn tinsel]

when did all the ppl who got rejected from nextdoor today initially apply?

I literally didn't know about the app until yesterday

[scarlet kernel]

^

[cobalt siren]

How do y’all do problem 4 on codesignal

I can never get it

Rather very rarely

[ivory stratus]

it's rng tbh

[floral plank]

^

[cobalt siren]

I rarely get lucky I guess

[ivory stratus]

i think i saw someone with like. a 758 and moved on too. im debating if i want to submit if i get between a 750 and 800

[azure zephyr]

thats my current study focus rn. this has been helpful https://github.com/Leader-board/OA-and-Interviews/blob/main/Online Assessments.md#codesignal

[modest night]

all BB heads

if BB scheduled a phone call after the final wat does that mean?

[thorn walrus]

guessing offer

[modest night]

do they call to reject?

[thorn walrus]

does bb offer not include a relocation bonus?

[teal jackal]

someone said somethiing about resume feeback to me that was a MASSIVE game changer

tl;dr: my resume is too game-devy
for companies more in the creative space, a game-y resume is a plus
for other companies, like services/apps/big data/cloud/etc, it looks bad

[whole berry]

just did akuna OA

didnt finish

L

[teal jackal]

FUCK I wasted my chances at 50 companies

[last belfry]

Yo people who have done a karat before what topics show up (Palantir)

Are they similar to blind 75 questions?

[wind drum]

bfs dfs

[last belfry]

So I’m assuming trees or graphs

[wind drum]

yes

[last belfry]

Would you say they are from leet

I have mine Saturday night so just wanna know best way to prep

[indigo raft]

Is the karat before or after recruiter call?

[wind drum]

kinda not really but if you've done the graph and tree problems on b75 you should be fine

[last belfry]

Thank you

[last belfry]

After

For some reason I had two recruiter calls lol

[prime palm]

they love graphs

hella fucking graphs

i had to do 4 questions in 45 min

all graphs

[wind drum]

4 lmao

[teal jackal]

yeah thats true

[last belfry]

4 in 45 lol yea I’m not moving on 😂

[wind drum]

nah you just need 2.5 to move on

[split plaza]

Wait wtf

4?

[last belfry]

Oh bet

[split plaza]

Is this SWE or FDSE?

[last belfry]

I feel like you have to be ultra gamer to get 4 in 45

[split plaza]

also I had 60 minutes lol

For just 3

[last belfry]

Well gonna grind out the graphs and tree questions on neetcode 150

[elder hull]

not sure

[last belfry]

Hopefully can move on lol

[elder hull]

waiting for cit and rblx

just finished vo for both

[teal jackal]

you guys in the chat said real factual shit to me
i need to tailor my resume for the job
i can keep a game on my resume as a project
but i cant let 2 of my 3 projects be games

[wind drum]

how was the roblox one

[teal jackal]

can u pass roblox with 780 codesignal?

[cerulean nebula]

does anyone know what's the nature of Circle's Recruiter screening call?

[teal jackal]

ive seen people pull it off

so presumably

[elder hull]

one of the bq was kinda awkward..

man asked me challenges in work and I talked abot one

he said this sounds not very challenging

[wind drum]

damn

[cerulean nebula]

lol

[wind drum]

i feel like they shouldn't even say that if they believe it

[uneven grove]

lol f that dude honestly

[young peak]

You can make anything sound like anything -- it's all about wording. When you say game-dev ish what do you mean?

[teal jackal]

can i ping u to the thread

[cerulean nebula]

got any update after that?

[elder hull]

yeah he said he's pushing me to tell more about myself

[young peak]

sure

[elder hull]

but it's still awkward

[elder hull]

it's this monday so noy yet

[latent sun]

Hello hello for those interested:
ScaleAI Interview Process

(I am currently in the tech interview process for those curious/wanna dm me)

[prime palm]

the first 2 were like piss easy

like write 1 for loop easy

other 2 were like mediums

[gilded dust]

Graph qs are ez plz

[cyan cosmos]

does anyone know if applications for bytedance and tiktok are separate? if I applied to tiktok do I have to apply to bytedance separately?

[azure zephyr]

2 of my projects on my resume are games and i'm doing okay haha

[blazing crystal]

Do we need to give proctored codesignal for roblox?

[ivory stratus]

i only have one project on my resume but it also got me second place in a state coding challenge lol

[latent sun]

Ya'll they call Google mock interviews (ones for onsite prep) "Champion" calls thats actually so cute

[teal jackal]

interesting

i guess im not that panicked then

i think i just need to hold out and be patient

but i think they made a really good point

im gonna create two resume versions

[azure zephyr]

interviewers love stuff like that

[teal jackal]

i hope interviewers like my graphics engine

[ivory stratus]

yeah but i always feel like i need more projects lol

[teal jackal]

im making a 3d graphics engine from C++, SDL2 and Opengl

[ancient holly]

asking once again

[azure zephyr]

thats very cool

do you use unity?

[teal jackal]

i do use unity a lot, but im working on an in house engine too

[modest night]

what does the HR call entail?

is it basically offer?

[azure zephyr]

apply to microsoft

[teal jackal]

i already did

[ivory stratus]

when?

[teal jackal]

i bet you can guess how that tunred out

8/20

i think i applied for seattle location

resume rj 9/9

[azure zephyr]

wow interesting

[teal jackal]

i think they have other locations open to apply to

like remote

[ivory stratus]

did you try aplying for remote?

[teal jackal]

ill reapply for the other position too

[azure zephyr]

my resume is very game dev heavy as far as projects, and i got oa for seattle

[teal jackal]

are u cs+game dev?

or nah

[azure zephyr]

nope im a data science major

[teal jackal]

i feel like game dev is just a natural way to enjoy coding in free time

[bleak raven]

if netflix doesnt get back within 2 days after phone does that mean reject 😭 😭 😭 😭

[azure zephyr]

but i also founded a small lil game dev company with my friends so

[teal jackal]

its a lot more natural tbh than coming up with web apps(i cant come up with one for shit)

[azure zephyr]

i just love video games tbh, never get to play them anymore tho

[teal jackal]

MS referral is a waste of time, right?

[ivory stratus]

i dont think so

[teal jackal]

like i should just apply and not even bother

[ivory stratus]

i would, doesnt hurt

[teal jackal]

my dad knows a senior sdm at MS

[ivory stratus]

that's how i got my internship interview

[azure zephyr]

i honestly dont know whats happening with msft tbh

think theyre hiring very slowly

[ivory stratus]

yeah it seems like that

[teal jackal]

I had a Microsoft employee of 20+ years refer me, and I didn’t even get an interview. (got many others at other FAANG+ without referrals) He said that his entire team has been frustrated by the referral system for decades. He’s referred a half dozen people, none of whom even got interviews. According to him, the referrals do literally nothing and he has brought this up as a complaint to upper management before.

[azure zephyr]

like i got all test cases on oa last night but dont expect to hear back for like 2-3 weeks

[teal jackal]

yeah im not gonna wait

im just gonna reapply for remote

and other locations

[azure zephyr]

go for it

[ivory stratus]

yeah just gotta apply for all of me. doesnt hurt

[ivory stratus]

you just did oa last night?

[teal jackal]

my dad knows an OCI director too, im definitely taking that referral

[azure zephyr]

yep i wanted until the last day lmaoooo but the interview said next steps won't happen until 2-3 weeks

[blazing crystal]

Is roblox codesignal proctored?

[azure zephyr]

i actually just got email from OCI bc i was supposed to interview, apparently they haven't finalized hc yet

[teal jackal]

always proctor imo

even ifi ts not mandatory

[ivory stratus]

daaaaaaaang. i did the same thing though. the email i got said i should hear back within 48 hours of oa submission and sent an email to my recruiter and was like "yo where's my results" and got the final interview

[blazing crystal]

Cool

[teal jackal]

when does it expire

u can try but u dont have to really try very hard

[ivory stratus]

bro if i were in your shoes id say screw it and just coast

[azure zephyr]

damnn this is what was in my recruiter email. how many test cases did you pass btw?

[ivory stratus]

dude i only passed 1 or 2 visible test cases on the last question

passed all on the first two

[azure zephyr]

i was expecting for the third question to be the hardest bc of your experience by 2 & 3 were easy and the first is what i struggled with 😭

[teal jackal]

dont bother tbh, amazon doesnt rescind

[ivory stratus]

i think as long as you get 60%, you move on to final

[lavish laurel]

what are the language options for gm OA?

[azure zephyr]

i passed all test cases for all questions so i think im good. i wonder how they calculate the score tho like is it just: number of test cases passed/number of questions given

[ivory stratus]

i think so. it sucks that there are hidden test cases though. so dumb

but im sure youll be fine

[ivory stratus]

final is 4 or 5x45

[azure zephyr]

literally dont know why hidden test cases exist omg

[teal jackal]

ive been drinking milk as water all day
the carton in my fridge's sell by date is tomorrow and i dont want to throw it out

[ivory stratus]

its such a dumb practice honestly

[azure zephyr]

so long

[fleet flare]

you gotta do what you gotta do to

[teal jackal]

id rather drink it all than throw it out
i not even lactose intolerant

[azure zephyr]

so somebody got pinterest phone with 780 so im guessing 750+ is good? i thought 800+ initally

[ivory stratus]

that's what im thinking

[ivory stratus]

gonna retake cause im at a 706 right now lol

[late kestrel]

yeah im waiting 10 days to take it again

[modest night]

codesignals weird

[teal jackal]

yike

i feel like some companies understand that sometimes people just get bad q4s

and they cant count that against the applicant as a whole

if the applicant is good overall

[signal meteor]

Think I'm just unlucky or is Pinterest not moving as fast as people here make it seem? Sent an 841 on Tuesday and haven't heard anything

[foggy perch]

just unlucky

probs

[latent sun]

Does anyone know how long it takes to hear back from benchling after phone interview

[ivory stratus]

Prob just not moving fast

[azure zephyr]

it seems like pinterest is moving hella fast tho i was gonna take the actual GCA in like a week but im scared im moving too slow 😭

[rare jetty]

Looking for a leetcode God to carry me in technical interviews

[modest night]

just pm anyone whos processed a trading firm offer

[late kestrel]

damn at&t scheduled a phone less than 24 hours after i took the oa

pretty fast

[rare jetty]

Bet

😩

[small mountain]

but they'll be so rich you wont be able to bribe them enough

[upbeat quartz]

Will google ever processes first-time applicants this year?(new grad)

[dusky plover]

bro

wheres my microsoft oa

boomer company

[fierce river]

Anyone who got interviews for New grad roles in Data Engineering?

[sonic coral]

Microsoft takes absolute ages lmao

Last year I applied end of July, got my phone interview email mid sept

[blazing crystal]

Still pretty early as per their standards

[sonic coral]

Yeah they take their sweet time that’s for sure

[night magnet]

good amount of options

[crude saffron]

In general, how high is the corr between starting tc and future expected tc? How high is the corr between starting tc and prestige on resume?

[calm mist]

anyone done the ATT technical assessment?

like wtf is the second part lol

[compact obsidian]

i remember doing at&t oa like a year ago for intern

i hated it so much

like 15 behav questions that the recrutier will never look at

[whole berry]

yo

whomever posted this video earlier today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsIzwrEZG8U&t=48s

thanks

this is goated

[lament summit]

more stocks

depends on the comnpany

[west pagoda]

Do parsers ever merge two experiences into one for y'all?

^ experienced this often with workday/linkedin resume builder parsers, but haven't with other kinds of parsers (msft or tiktok)

[marble bronze]

Skills don't get combined, but my exp. kinda gets mashed together

[west pagoda]

That's not as bad as losing an experiences into another altogether lol

[marble bronze]

Honestly God bless simplify for solving that

[west pagoda]

Is it worthwhile starting a resume as scratch for this?

[marble bronze]

No? I mean the resume parses weird but I haven't had issues with getting callbacks or anything due to it

[west pagoda]

I am having p major callback issues lol, not sure if parsers are reason why tho

[marble bronze]

What's ur resume like

[west pagoda]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1022578974704021585

[maiden ice]

Does anyone know the Mastercard interview process

[marble bronze]

Do u need visa

To work in US