2023_grads

[foggy perch]

unless you're applying to HRT which requires codesignals in the last 30 days

which is so dumb

damn 1 minute

[ebon osprey]

ok yeah

my first 849 was 33 mins lol

so finish in 10 mins = finish in 33 mins

[static moth]

amazons waitlisting?

gg

[serene fable]

Same

[static moth]

its september....

[foggy perch]

also what a load of shit on how this company talks about codesignal oa

[serene fable]

My message didn't actually say I was put on a waitlist, just said that I wasn't getting a job at this time, does that mean I got waitlisted?

[foggy perch]

"This assessment will reflect the type of work you'd tackle"

[static moth]

ya

[foggy perch]

in what world does codesignal reflect anything about the work

[ebon osprey]

idk i think codesignal is pretty fair at least

[foggy perch]

apple still is

[static moth]

@serene fable 1x30 or 2x60?

[serene fable]

1x30

[foggy perch]

I wouldn't describe it as accurately reflecting the work though lmao

maybe say it's an iq test at best

[static moth]

i did my 1x30 2 weeks ago

[ebon osprey]

its just how annoying is ur q3

[elder hound]

q4 rng

[ebon osprey]

nah i dont think q4 is any rng

q3 is though

[foggy perch]

nah I got apple entry level / early career interview a few weeks ago

got rejected but they're hiring

[peak ferry]

apple process weird never know what they’re doing

[serene fable]

Any ideas for how long the waitlist will last?

[nocturne oriole]

I have Amazon 60x1 final, advice??

[dusky plover]

Stay obsessed

Cuh

Sup kirb remember me

[elder hound]

https://www.reddit.com/r/leetcode/comments/xjbil5/twosum_like_question_with_2_arrays_need_to_beat/

Plz answer then 😦 I’m 2 dumb

[peak ferry]

none of faang seems to be hiring in any appreciable volume or at least that’s what it seems like

[foggy perch]

have you ever gotten the infinite number line problem for Q4

and if so

how do you solve it

I genuinely can never get it without TLE

[ebon osprey]

sounds like difference array

[foggy perch]

so I just close codesignal

yes

that one

like I haven't been able to find a way to do it in python

which is what I do codesignal in

[wicked rivet]

dude

[foggy perch]

advice I've heard is like red black tree

[wicked rivet]

i got that

[foggy perch]

but red black tree is absurd to implement in python

for one question

[wicked rivet]

it was absurd

i think it was segment tree

[foggy perch]

ok or that

but that's so absurd

[wicked rivet]

I was thinking avl tree but thought

[foggy perch]

to implement for a q4

[wicked rivet]

no way in fucking hell they wanted me to implement an avl tree in an OA

[foggy perch]

I literally just had to keep redoing codesignals until I didn't get a dumb question like that for Q4

are they actually

[wicked rivet]

i got it down to binary search

[foggy perch]

wack

[wicked rivet]

but only got 12/20

[foggy perch]

same but that's not good enough

yeah

codesignal score is basically useless unless you get Q4 all cases

besides for places like c1

[wicked rivet]

yea

got a 730, then did it 2 weeks later n got 846

soo rng

[foggy perch]

yep

same

I'm reusing my 844 as many times as I can

[peak ferry]

is it a lc problem or linked anywhere else? Curious what it is

[foggy perch]

before it expires

so far got Roblox, Circle, and maybe Pinterest interview so that one codesignal is carrying me

[wicked rivet]

I submitted my shit one to HRt and circle :/

[foggy perch]

I did not because HRT requires a codesignal later than August

which means I'd have to rng codesignal again

something I don't wanna do

[foggy perch]

wack if circle ghosts

since I got circle phone

but I ghosted them

[wicked rivet]

nah my 730 was to circle

[foggy perch]

because circle interview sounds way too hard

oh in that case rip

[wicked rivet]

it was the one i took it for

praying on bloomberg, it's my only hope rn

[foggy perch]

rip

bb shouldn't be that bad

unless you get bad interviewers

[nocturne oriole]

[bleak relic]

Has anyone interviewed with Abnormal security? How many rounds are there and how did you prepare?

[late kestrel]

where do u ppl come up with this stuff lol 😂

[peak ferry]

LOL I think I found the problem and this is where you take a fat L for using a language without a built in bst. maybe there's a smart way to not use a bst, but with a bst it's p darn straight forward

[late kestrel]

so your guess that bb is just gonna continue interviews with no intent to hire is... you got a no show and your friend got a... short interview?

[marble bronze]

I guess that might be a reason why they're so choosy about new grads...

[late kestrel]

how short

[marble bronze]

Damn, shit really is doomed this year

[foggy perch]

later this week

[late kestrel]

alright when this happens ping me and say you told me so. until this happens lay off on the doomer shit pls

[foggy perch]

rip why'd you have to reschedule

f

should've just told them you knew what jury nullificaiton was

ez jury ban

I doubt roblox will stop hiring this month

lmao

[floral plank]

one time I reschduled an interview and they pretty much just rejected me

[foggy perch]

roblox earliest interviews were like end of august lmao

there's def still time

maybe

[wicked rivet]

i have a phone with bbg

[late kestrel]

i have VO in a week. too much doomer for my liking

[nocturne oriole]

I would be glad to interview any of you for no reason

[gray niche]

^ same

[nocturne oriole]

Just tell me u will fail the interview so we can sit in silence and i will work

Venmo to pass

[foggy perch]

for bb or roblox?

ah

[gray niche]

this chat has been very end of the world lately its not even October yet

[foggy perch]

Amazon hiring slowing was just the first horseman of the apocalypse sadly

4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse = Google, Amazon, Meta, and ??? hiring slowing

[late kestrel]

c1 closed apps, gotta be up there

[foggy perch]

bloomberg

uhh netflix maybe

[late kestrel]

yeah but theyre not gonna hire 500 ngs like everyone else

[fallen fox]

if you need sponsorship it's witch time i guess

[late kestrel]

i have my c1 powerday in a week but i havent heard anyone say anything ab c1 in a while outside of when they closed their apps

[nocturne oriole]

tbh try to understand

It’s a recession no cap

People are cringelords but this is hard

New grads last year ate good (2022)

But before that they also struggled (2020/21) when covid started

[nimble tinsel]

Apple is not hiring too

[nocturne oriole]

but this year is worst

[foggy perch]

I think they are since I got a ML Rotational Program interview from them

but idk if that counts as swe directly ig

their hiring probs super specific though

[winter thistle]

it's not even october and amazon is waitlisting people

bruh

i have amazon fall internship

idek if they will extend return offer or not

[foggy perch]

guess it's time for you to work 9-9-6 for that return offer

[winter thistle]

i guess u r right

[fallen fox]

everyone on waitlist will get an offer and those who just applied will start getting OAs soon

[winter thistle]

meta open when?

meta yield protection confirmed

[serene fable]

Any other good companies hiring rn?

[grizzled bronze]

Me trying to interview after not having interviewed in forever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kav7tifmyTg

[static moth]

hi

best excuse for extending a deadline?

[latent sun]

hey champion

[static moth]

yooooooo

[latent sun]

Do you have a school policy for offer deadlines

[static moth]

no 😩 my school is the worst school on this planet

wouldnt help me even if my family was held at gunpoint

[lament summit]

going opff to protect my country

[latent sun]

LMAO

[static moth]

LOL

[latent sun]

Family emergency?

[static moth]

i think thats the best i can use

i need like 2 weeks more

[foggy perch]

"I've recently been diagnosed with leukemia and need a few weeks off sry"

[static moth]

my girlfriend slept with my boyfriend so i need a few weeks to cope with this sry

[marble bronze]

more like ligma

[foggy perch]

alternatively tell them that both your bf and gf died in a car crash

need precisely 2 weeks to mourn

then you're all set

[static moth]

yooooo fool proof

thanks bro will use that

[latent sun]

nah not good to cuck yourself

[worthy sapphire]

I finished two tech rounds with Bloomberg.. How many more do I have to give 😑.. Any idea

[static moth]

thanks king u right for sure

[loud olive]

@static moth u tryna extend for ddog?

[static moth]

dm

[latent sun]

ddawg mf

[cyan cosmos]

Microsoft new grad closed?

[foggy perch]

just the natural cycle of the every x year recession is how I see it

I mean they already came tbf

look at snap, coinbase, etc.

[cosmic crag]

Tried posting on the sub-reddit, but was removed because I do not have 100 sitewide karma. I would like to ask for some advice on career progression as a frontend vs backend dev. Here's my full post. Thanks in advance 🙂

[normal palm]

fuarkistan

[primal cosmos]

just did my codesignal, couldnt solve 4

[late kestrel]

[thick shell]

Did you have to send to multiple companies on this attempt?

[primal cosmos]

yeah got 761

sent to 2

[formal fable]

Are amazon wait-list emails only in reference to Canadian applications so far?

[quartz needle]

No I applied for USA and I too got the mail

[formal fable]

When did you have your final?

[quartz needle]

08/31

[formal fable]

So I guess I'm waiting on a wait-list email this week then

[serene fable]

I thought only Canadians got offers in the last few weeks

[calm shale]

wym

its #2023_grad_process

[teal jackal]

Ask Jay powell

[outer radish]

FUCK

Thats it boys

Nursing time

[surreal shuttle]

I thought I would continue applying for companies even after I get Amazon offer

But I don't feel like interviewing

How do you get motivation to keep interviewing

[primal cosmos]

by not having amazon offer

[autumn ridge]

Give friend access to your Amazon student portal and have them constantly threaten you to renege the offer if you don’t keep interviewing.

[tardy geode]

I pray everyone on this server gets a job within the next 6 months

📿

[autumn ridge]

Jokes aside. You made it man. You have an awesome new grad offer and I'm sure you worked super hard to get to this point. Just relax and enjoy the rest of your senior year.

[brazen lily]

So don't

[teal jackal]

holy shit

jay powell is destroying this country lmao

[weak latch]

YOU GOT THE OFFER BRO?????

[teal jackal]

this inflation hawk shit needs to chill

[weak latch]

THAT USERNAME 😳

HUGEEEE W BRO

600 apps later im proud of you dude

good shit

[teal jackal]

600 APPS -> ONE OFFER

LIT

🔥

[coral finch]

What contribute a boomer tech stack?

[surreal shuttle]

Thank you bro

[surreal shuttle]

Yeah I am the OG username

[floral plank]

Just got an 838 on code signal

Kinda sucks cuz I could have used it for my past companies

Rip

[maiden fable]

u solved all 4?

[faint igloo]

did u have something 800+ before?

[floral plank]

Yea

[floral plank]

819

Although I have been having bad luck with it

[maiden fable]

do u have any tips

[floral plank]

I never moved on with it

[faint igloo]

i thought as long as 800+ it didnt make too much diff

[floral plank]

Just type like crazy and read fast

[floral plank]

It shouldn't but I haven't been moving on with any company

[faint igloo]

cuz i got a few with 810+ range

[floral plank]

Circle ghosted me, seat geek rejected me, Netflix ghosted me, and Pinterest hasn't responded as of now

[faint igloo]

but i bombed them : (

bruh

i mean circle prolly depended on when u applied

cuz i got their interviews

and the rest are low headcount anyway

[floral plank]

I did this one cuz this was for Visa and I don't really care about them

[faint igloo]

and im canadian so prolly wasnt happening anyway

[floral plank]

I applied like in August

[faint igloo]

rip

[floral plank]

Also Roblox and zip recruiter rejected me

[faint igloo]

yea same

loool

[floral plank]

Yeah it did be great to get some interviews

[faint igloo]

circle i remember applying when it literally just came out

[floral plank]

But it seems like 819 isn't doing any justice

[faint igloo]

honestly good on u for improving the codesignal

[floral plank]

Yeah I applied like a week or two late

Hopefully more companies give codeisgnal and I can get interviews

[faint igloo]

same

im getting worried cuz i dont see more apps coming out

and i got rejected from the ones i did interview for

[floral plank]

Too bad there is no way I can resubmit my code signal score to past companies

As of now I have Palantir and Bloomberg

[faint igloo]

for interviews?

[floral plank]

But Bloomberg I haven't even done first round and Palantir is Palantir

[floral plank]

Yea

[faint igloo]

looll

[floral plank]

I also have ddog phone but I will see

[faint igloo]

so 819 is getting u stuff

whats the issue then

[floral plank]

Those companies don't ask for codesignal

[faint igloo]

cuz for most of these ive alot of ppl didnt get anything with 848s

[teal jackal]

Bro it's lit

Im happy for u

So much suffering

And finally an offer

It was a long time coming but I'm happy

[faint igloo]

either way u seem u have some call backs so just smash the interview 👍

[floral plank]

Yea Roblox and Zip seems to be like that

Yeah I guess I can try

[faint igloo]

u got this chief

[gilded breach]

Damn dude congrats. Where is the offer from if you don't mind sharing?

[brazen lily]

What are your stats? Internships, gpa

[autumn ridge]

same lol

[autumn ridge]

I bombed the codesignal for all those companies as well except pinterest. I finally got a good score a couple days ago

Actually nvm i didnt get the codesignal for netflix

[floral plank]

I did 2 internships at finance type companies. GPA is fine.

[floral plank]

I am still waiting to hear back from Pinterest

[teal jackal]

Just like me fr

Reject everywhere

[night magnet]

Sorry had to get that off my chest

[tacit grove]

they're super lucky

[floral plank]

codesignal is trully rng

last year all I got were dp/backtracking quesitons

this year it seems more like just read and code

[tacit grove]

Has anyone done Roblox's OA?

[floral plank]

it is a codesignal

[tacit grove]

all 3 parts?

[floral plank]

Nah 1 one is

the other 2 are games

[tacit grove]

yeah what is this exactly?

[floral plank]

just games

pretty much just try to do well

[tacit grove]

okay

[thick cave]

Do you guys think trading firms have more challenging OAs than other tech companies including FAANG? I took IMCs OA today and the second question was a little tricky.

[floral plank]

depends on the trading firm

like wolverine and sig OAs are a joke

[thick cave]

Really

[floral plank]

but they also pay less

so it makes sense

[thick cave]

I got a SIG OA. Like compared to Amazons OA would much more easier or difficult do you think it is?

[floral plank]

citadel OA was a joke but they resume screen very hard

[floral plank]

Easier imo

SIG resume screen though

[lone rapids]

Is resume screen manual ?

Waiting after perfect sig OA for weeks. Havent heard anything

[floral plank]

wym? like yea recruiter looks at it

[lone rapids]

Some are like parsed through computer

[floral plank]

I mean recruiters still looks at it

[lone rapids]

Which automatically rejects selects

[brazen lily]

HRT was standard code signal gca

[lone rapids]

Would make more sense for all this wait.

[floral plank]

maybe auto screen for some stuff like school/gpa/experience

[rustic vessel]

Most of these oas are a joke unless they’re like old mission capital with os trivia

[lone rapids]

IMC also making me wait after video round which I really hate. Just want to get the hr phone and onsite

[winter thistle]

yoo group anxiety attack

lessgoo

[thick cave]

Which job did you apply for at HRT? I applied for Algo SWE and they sent me a hackerrank assessment in like June or July I’m pretty sure

[winter thistle]

hrt sent me gca

[lone rapids]

Do recruiters reach out to u guys for swe opportunities

[winter thistle]

No @lone rapids

I have only been reached out for contractor roles weirdly

[lone rapids]

Anyone had success msging recruiters managers and getting a response back?

[winter thistle]

Do you mean, cold messaging people to get into the interview process?

[lone rapids]

Yea cold mesaaging with maybe notes and messages

[floral plank]

last year I did that alot

and it did work

[winter thistle]

Yes

It worked for me

[floral plank]

not really for this year

[lone rapids]

Oh nice. So per company how many people you reached out to?

[winter thistle]

Try 3-4 per company

Use LinkedIn

Or look up emails using something like

rocketreach.co

[lone rapids]

Oh never knew about this site

[brazen lily]

Core engineering, or whatever the non algo SWE one is called

This was recent though

[thick cave]

what do you say usually? Bruh I be thinking I’m writing a super sincere message and then these mans don’t respond

[winter thistle]

Don't be sincere

With cold messages

[floral plank]

having return offer helps

[winter thistle]

You need to be confident

You need to market yourself

You are selling yourself

[brazen lily]

Lol

[winter thistle]

That's the purpose of a cold message

Helped me get referrals at various companies this season

[thick cave]

I see, so pretty much making yourself look as good as possible

[winter thistle]

Yes!

[low scroll]

😂 😭

[winter thistle]

You are advertising yourself

You are the product

😈😎

[thick cave]

Ty ty good sir 😎 ima spam like 3 recruiters per company w a properly written cold message

[winter thistle]

Try normal engineers on LinkedIn

Since everyone is spamming the recruiters

But if you reach out to engineers

They will refer you

Also try reaching out to people on Blind

I got a Meta intern interview because someone on Blind referred me

Although I failed the interview lol

[teal jackal]

Cold messing works

Blind referrals are a flop generally

[radiant juniper]

anyone know how many questions Circle's codesignal is?

also is the proctoring just them recording you?

[stone latch]

4 questions, yes they record you

[radiant juniper]

oof

man I be gettin like 740ish on these darn codesignals

I have been waiting to do Circle and Benchling's Codesignal assessments but at this point it's just gonna be luck of the draw. Might as well just get some sleep and gather energy to tackle another day of grinding for OAs

[mystic glacier]

I heard if you solve 1 and 2 SUPER FAST and solve 4

you'll get 800+

[floral plank]

^

[radiant juniper]

dang

I thought about this too cuz I usually solve 1 and 2 fast, but I usually spend too much time on 4

[mystic glacier]

the good thing about CodeSignal is once you get a 800+

SEND IT TO EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM

[radiant juniper]

Do y'all suggest just doing 1 and 2, then moving to 4 and then submit without doing 3?

[loud olive]

No do 3 if u can

[mystic glacier]

yes, only circle back to 3 after are done with 4/or pretty damn sure you cant solve 4

but yea when all starts align, solve 4/4

[radiant juniper]

sadge

thanks for the tips guys

ugh this would all be solved if I can just get into Google Product area matching next week and pray that I get matched lolll

My main motivation would then be getting offers to up my renegotiation leverage haha

Recession be hittin hard

[pastel bane]

What skills should I have to apply for a PM job? the job description didn't say it very clearly.

[coarse kraken]

Does Pinterest accept a codesignal score older than 6 months?

[pastel bane]

How many years of work experience are usually required for a Juninor role?

[rain patio]

Still gonna get rejected by HRT🥲

[pure mauve]

Damn HRT never sent me that OA

[maiden fable]

Guys last year for optiver intern i got the oa automatically after applying, this year i havent got it, did y’all get within couplw days after applying? I wanna know if theres sth wrong with my resume cuz i changed the format

[exotic lintel]

is this true ?

Once you grind enough leetcode you can work at Grindr.

[slim mortar]

As a gamer, I can confirm that this is indeed, true

[dense blaze]

[slim mortar]

DUA LIPA

[teal jackal]

12min on q2

feel that

sometimes i just get an absolutely rotten q2

[knotty talon]

i hate codesignals

shits so RNG

[teal jackal]

should i warm up before a codesignal

planning on taking one 2day

[knotty talon]

just rawdog it

nah im playing. warming up nverh urts

[tardy geode]

[teal jackal]

how do u guys recommend i warm up

[upper portal]

YMMV, but last year I also got the OA after applying, and this year I got resume rejected by them with a quant internship

[teal jackal]

good idea

[unique wolf]

anybody get to the gm final and get rejected, had it yesterday and it went ok but I can't find anyone on here rejected after they got to it

[rain patio]

It was a implementation heavy question and my code was missing an edge case with n=1, took nearly 5 minute to figure out the bug

[round lake]

Anyone got paycom OA?

[vernal dome]

I got resume rejection from paycom lol

[teal jackal]

Yeah, rotten q2.

For some reason I feel like people are getting lengthier q2s now

[prime palm]

Why is #grad_postings_old dry as fuck?

[paper magnet]

Is 820 good for codesignal or should i retake ?

[lament summit]

For

What company

[weak latch]

how are y'all just casually getting 800+ on codesignal 😭

i'm ass

i got 825 one time and it was on a practice test where #3 was really easy

[wicked pendant]

if you complete 1 2 and 4 its always over 800

i never even look at 3

[weak latch]

#4 always cucks me

with TLE

annoying as hell

[wicked pendant]

yeahh ive gotten partial on 4 a lot

[weak latch]

like on my visa codesignal i had an o(n) algorithm but pythons built-in remove from list function was too slow

my solution was perfect but removing an element from a list has to be o(n) using the built in functions at least

i tried doing list[0:i] + list[i+2:] as well but that was too slow

[hasty birch]

Here's a trick: swap element with last and pop

That's 0(1)

[weak latch]

but it needs to preserve the order of the other elements

[unique cargo]

Youre cracked, solving 4 questions in 27 min

[hasty birch]

Oof

[weak latch]

Yeahhh

so basically it was like this
[1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5]
going through the list you notice the pair of ones so the list becomes
[2, 3, 3, 4, 5]
keep going until you see the pair of 3s it becomes
[2, 4, 5]
now you're done

but you need to do more work on each removal so its not as ez as dump it all in a set, if its contained remove all instances

[rustic vessel]

Your removing is not the optimal solution

Use a stack

[weak latch]

ayo

hold up

a stack is actually kind of genius

that woulda worked now that i think about it damn 😂

[lament summit]

yeah i got that question my last code signal

it was ezpz with a stack

[hasty birch]

I always get shit RNG for Q4 lol

[rustic vessel]

Can’t always blame rng…

[wicked rivet]

yeah i got the same q i think, used a stack

[rustic vessel]

Where are they sourcing these photos from lmao

[calm shale]

they have the wildest prompts

[late kestrel]

bro i had one the other day that was "cat swimming in a pool" and they were the cutest pictures ever

[calm shale]

one was pick horses that are currently moving, some of the pics i genuinely had no idea lol

[late kestrel]

yeah some are awfu

"pick which lion's eyes are closed"

[calm shale]

i got that this morning

i wonder what theyre training for

at least reCaptcha is like traffic lights and fire hydrants, so u know it's for cars

[shell fern]

the images literally look like dalle generations

[calm shale]

why they wanna know which lions eyes are closed

[shell fern]

go back to traffic lights

[calm shale]

maybe they just want general ai

[chilly burrow]

I've been getting a lot of animal ones recently 🤔

Mayb they're makin an animal huntin robot?

[indigo raft]

An intern this past summer had the same question and our recruiters didn’t even know something like that existed, but were happy to accommodate

[pure plank]

Anyone have experience giving interview for Fidelity investment for Aws position??

[hexed moth]

Can you elaborate on that?

damn i wish my school offered that lol

[cold matrix]

I just finished my 2nd on site technical interview for Bloomberg, and I was invited to the HR round of (1 hr 15 minutes). What kind of interview is this? and does everyone get sent to the HR round?

[scenic mason]

Some companies don't enforce this, but most larger companies will

but tbh, just renege if they don't enforce this

If they're gonna enforce your university rules then you don't need to adhere to theirs

[normal palm]

how many practice codesignals can you do in a day?

[scenic mason]

I don't think practice codesignals are the same as the actual GCA

[brazen lily]

One unless you make new accounts

[foggy perch]

they ip track you or something tho

since ik someone who got caught and got their tests all wiped

and banned for x time

oh not for practice codesignal, for normal codesignal

[calm shale]

i brought it up once for an internship and it worked

[indigo canopy]

could I apply for internships and new grad roles at the same companies if I’m not sure if I’m going to graduate in the spring or do a 5 year masters

[teal jackal]

Is it RNG how long it takes for a company to get back to you after an interview

I know most companies ghost

[knotty talon]

anyone here has taken datadog OA?

[knotty talon]

i think i missed one of the multiple choice. L or still a chance?

i think i got everything else

o well ill just assume L

[tulip citrus]

has anyone had a fidelity offer?

[hexed moth]

u coudl try searching for it

[rain patio]

But eventually will get rejected by HRT

[old smelt]

Hrt doesn't care about codesignal, mainly resume

[lament summit]

does hrt ghost or send rejection emails

still havnet heard back after submitting code signal

[proper geyser]

me neither, i guess they are just ghosting

[sweet urchin]

god damn its an hour and 15?

[rain patio]

[elder hound]

I got reject after OA

[lament summit]

so i stil have a chance

[polar moat]

Does referral after applying for a job counts? on workday?

[lament summit]

no

need referrral before u apply

[polar moat]

okay. can I email them and ask if they can add referral to my application? Or I need to ask referrer to refer me with some other email

[lament summit]

i think its too late to get the referral

u needed to get the referral before u apply

u could try using another email

[polar moat]

okayyy

thanks

[tardy geode]

Nope

[clever orbit]

what should I do after blind 75?

[calm shale]

neetcode 150

[fallen fox]

apply to jane street

[calm shale]

interview coming up in a bit

wish me luck boys

[clever orbit]

GL

[chilly burrow]

[late kestrel]

glglglglglgl

[lament summit]

gl

seems like ziprecruiter is just trollin

they not interviewing anyone lmfao

[polar moat]

McKinsey OA auto?

[neat shore]

Will Bloomberg allow full remote for new grads

[glacial pine]

they reject

[fossil jewel]

nah just had the phone

i asked her and she said they require in person (3 days per week in person) but they're flexible if you need to work remotely sometimes

[lament summit]

pog

[neat shore]

Does “flexible” mean that if ur team agrees u can get full remote ?

[modest night]

ngl we should stop being picky wit that considering its dumb hard to even get a job in the first place😭

[fossil jewel]

eh mostly means that if you need to work at home in some occasions, you can ask the manager

jpm is the same thing

[modest night]

if bloomberg tells me im workin in the dumpster on the back alley of the office building and dev setup is a raspberry pi with 2by 3 screen im all fine widdit as long as that 160k tc hitting my bank acc

[formal fable]

Almost all firms I've spoken to prefer a hybrid model. I think that's reasonable as I know first hand, the inefficiencies of remote work, especially in anything requiring daily collaboration. A meeting setup for a 5 min discussion is far less efficient than walking over and talking things out in-person

[fossil jewel]

yeah i didnt do much the days i was wfh

commute sucks but i honestly just read a book or listen to music

[neat shore]

Damn how much does BB negotiate up to for new grad

[young peak]

For folks applying to Google, the Gbus shuttle system is elite and comfy af

[modest night]

a lot

[neat shore]

Irrelevant g is on an hiring freeze

[young peak]

skies the limit my friend

[modest night]

ive heard a dude negotiate up to 300k

[formal fable]

WFH is good, only if you've got significant home responsibilities or commute constraints (like kids in the suburbs). But an office environment is refreshing provided you genuinely like your work and team and you collaborate heavily

[young peak]

ah fuck fr? I'm from last cycle

and I work for G rn so Im just putting my 2 cents

[formal fable]

For new grad? I doubt

[neat shore]

Word I heard New grad BB negotiates up to 220k ish

[formal fable]

300k is Senior SWE range

Those require min. 2 YOE, median 3 YOE at BB

[neat shore]

170 based and 30 bonus is negotiable for BB NG

[young peak]

Well not always as I saw but yeah thats the general norm

[modest night]

ik thought it was fake too but then heard the whole breakdown of how he negotiated

[young peak]

hi

[neat shore]

What’s the process for negotiating BB

Like can I use a 160k offer to negotiate

[formal fable]

There is no work for new grad SWE at BB that's worth 300k. Seniors would lose their shit and feel undercompensated

So I call BS on that figure

[young peak]

You ask em for cash, they measure your dick size and everything goes from there

[young peak]

Obviously it's all up to you to believe my friend

I don't spend my time bullshitting the folks that helped me

all just for transparency. It's unfortunate that I didn't end up accepting the offer, so I want someone cracked to get it too

[formal fable]

You got 300k TC new grad offer at BB?

[young peak]

Yeah

[formal fable]

Which team?

[modern socket]

bro i’ve only gotten offers at 3 places and the best is bloomberg

[young peak]

No teams bud you go through onboarding and choose

[modern socket]

i want 200k ng

[modest night]

care to share ur stock with me 👉👈

[thorn walrus]

what 3

[young peak]

[lament summit]

r u masters?

[thorn walrus]

also doesn't bloomberg go up to 200

[young peak]

naw undergrad

[lament summit]

wtf

what team

ML?

[modern socket]

p&g, bloomberg, and jpmc

[young peak]

I think the general highest is 220k this year

[lament summit]

so hows it possible u got 300

[young peak]

the role is SWE but my specialization is ML yeah

[spring gate]

Bet they have other trading offer

[young peak]

I'm cracked?

[foggy perch]

probs not since since default offer is like 180

[modern socket]

just kill me

[young peak]

Yep

[spring gate]

HRT and citadel etc

[young peak]

[teal jackal]

is it better to cold contact recruiters from email or linkedin

[young peak]

I get one technical manager or whatever every month minimum

[young peak]

I went up to HRT final and got Citadel offer

[lament summit]

whats the breakdown

[young peak]

so you're not wrong

[lament summit]

for ur 300k bb

only first year

[modern socket]

google > bb imo

[young peak]

No, I got 265k for G in Seattle. Just diff values to me ig

[formal fable]

Yeah, that's not true. I have interviewed with multiple teams of theirs and they all have different interview processes. They even do the screening separately. The AI group had ML System design as round 2 whereas the Dev Efficiency tooling team had VO after just phone screen. So NO, there are distinctions across teams

[iron storm]

anyone know anything about anyscale process?

[formal fable]

And I suspect the only roles that justify 300k new grad at BB involve quant or ML or distributed systems

[young peak]

Bud I just did a phone screen followed by 2 interviews, an HR round then an EM round

idk wtf you're smoking

After tax, it's a bit better? idk man I just chose it last minute

hot potato-ed with so many offers my brain melted

[spring gate]

They demand justification😅

[formal fable]

Perhaps that's the new grad route as those processes ar standardized. But 300k has to be very very team/role specific

[modest night]

seatttle 265 wayyy better

[modern socket]

bro where is even hiring rn

[modest night]

ny got state income tax

[modern socket]

this economy fucking sucks

[modest night]

i believe seattle doesnt

[formal fable]

I've never heard 300k new grad at BB, so I have to assume that it's some niche role

[modern socket]

i want 250k

[modest night]

bro u got 3 offers man🤧

[modern socket]

bro the best offer is 182k

[modest night]

thats better than nadaa

[modern socket]

and that’s with 10k relo

[young peak]

I mean I'd love to connect you with my recruiter, you can ask him. I was just told that I had some amazing qualifications, and that I'd ideally be joining an ML adjacent team

[modern socket]

i’ve never failed a technical interview idk

[lament summit]

3 hr interview in 10 mins, wish me luck yall

[sweet torrent]

Me

[lament summit]

[modern socket]

this is like the minimum that i expected

[formal fable]

Is your role specific to ML Infra or engineering?

[modern socket]

ain’t no way

[young peak]

I guess engineering? it's honestly been a while ago man

[teal jackal]

bro economy is actally fucked

[young peak]

I signed the offer in Oct last year?

[modern socket]

bro ofc i got resume rejected at hft

[formal fable]

Also, @young peak at the time of the interview, did you have prior experience? If yes, then how much?

[modern socket]

even with fb

[crude saffron]

Market is implying 75 bps

[young peak]

Ah right so I do have contracting experience in the ML and crypto space. That equates to about 1 YOE roughly?

plus internships, TA exp and so on

[crude saffron]

It’s probably 10% that it’s 100 bps

[teal jackal]

Holy shit

whats bps

[sweet torrent]

I did

[formal fable]

That's not your typical new grad though. ML pays above the standard SWE mark and no standard backend SWE can negotiate 300k at like 0-2 YOE at BB imo. Best I've heard is around 250k range

[young peak]

Now the best you've heard is 300k

[foggy perch]

google hiring process 10x worse tho

more torturuous

[modern socket]

doesn’t matter imo

but yeah

[formal fable]

For ML. Which, I can try and leverage as well, but unlike you, I do not have 1 YOE in ML

[young peak]

Ugh believe me the G hiring process can def use some fine tuning

It's hilarious because OGs remember I posted the literal offer in chat

[crude saffron]

What does Bloomberg use ml for?

[foggy perch]

absolutely does matter lmaooo

[modern socket]

i mean

it matters

[foggy perch]

when google takes half a year to finish hiring you

[modern socket]

but the job is still better

[foggy perch]

and requires team matching

it's a relevant consideration I'd say

for comparing two places lmao

if you have offers at neither

if you have offers at both sure it's irrelevant

[young peak]

barely an G then lmao

[sweet torrent]

Did you take it?

[young peak]

Team matching isn't exactly a thing depending on which onboarding path you enroll into

[foggy perch]

wdym

pretty sure team match is a thing the moment you pass interviews for Google Intern + NG

[young peak]

You either do Product Area matching and you join ECI or you do Team Matching and you join GTI. There's a difference

[modest night]

oh shit that was u?

[round lake]

@sweet torrent not yet

[foggy perch]

is product area matching for swe?

[young peak]

Yeah

[foggy perch]

or what is ECI and GTI?

[modest night]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[dusty basin]

This year is very different

[modest night]

@young peak

[dusty basin]

@young peak would be out on the streets today

[foggy perch]

I also imagine 300k offers probs a lot lower now with the stock drops

[young peak]

What is ECI (Early Career Immersion)? What is GTI (Google Tech Immersion)?
All new grads go through an onboarding bootcamp where they’re encouraged to learn Google tooling and processes. This was normally a 3 week bootcamp called GTI. This year, another pathway has been introduced called ECI that is approximately one year long and has specific start dates (March, August). In ECI, you will complete 8 weeks of training followed by 9 months of two 4.5-month rotations. Afterwards (or during one of your rotations), you will permanently convert to a team. It does not seem possible to switch from ECI to GTI or vice versa. The decision to be placed in ECI vs. GTI is not based on interview performance, it is primarily based on background, experiences, and skillset.

[dusty basin]

K

[young peak]

jesus fucking christ fr?

y'all fucked

[modest night]

we might be hearing news bout them soon

[foggy perch]

for NG before you even get a google offer I believe you need to be team matched though?

[young peak]

No

[dusty basin]

Aws hiring

[foggy perch]

i'm kinda confused by this explanation

since you have to be project matched for Google Intern right

so is team matching not a thing for Google NG now?

[dusty basin]

If u don’t mind slaving away and pip

[foggy perch]

what're you saying

[dusty basin]

Aws direct isn’t ng hire

[sour night]

What does Bloomberg HR ask during the VO? Is it generic q?

[dusty basin]

Apply through normal amazon.jobs

Sde 1

[foggy perch]

usually need 1 yoe+ for those

[young peak]

You get HC approval then your rec lets you know either you're doing a team matching or a product area matching. IF you get the former, you're in a cohort called GTI and if you get the latter, you're in a cohort called ECI

the difference is explained above like I said

[foggy perch]

huh ok

[dusty basin]

That’s what they say

[foggy perch]

ok so it sounds like team matching is still a big thing in google then

unless you get rng and get the other option

[young peak]

really generic, mostly about projects you've had tho if you wrote some down

its healing already as far as I can see

[foggy perch]

is it

I feel like we haven't hit rock bottom yet

[dusty basin]

Nah

[foggy perch]

since the real recession only starts once inflation slows down right

since that's the whole point of a recession happening

which is the goal

[knotty talon]

773 in pinterest codesignal

[sour night]

This means I passed the 2 technical for VO rounds right?

[dusty basin]

It’ll probably get worse in the coming months

But ofc no one knows for sure

[young peak]

yeah for the phone round you gotta pass the 2 technical to unlock the HR round

they'll let you know that you gotta stay for another 15mins or something

[naive chasm]

Is there a google sheet template for jobapps people use

jobapps tracking

[sour night]

Yeah the dude told me hop back in a bit for HR

[foggy perch]

I feel like there's still a greater peak that can happen with tech giant layoffs like Meta and Amazon though

since those're bound to happen eventually

[knotty talon]

codesignals suck so much on god. the rng has me sweating every time

[young peak]

they say anything about an EM round?

[foggy perch]

no

[young peak]

they usually let you know immediately

[foggy perch]

really

for me I got emailed about EM a few days after my HR

[sour night]

Would they lmk during HR?

[foggy perch]

i dont think so

they didn't for me

really

I feel like meta layoffs are likely at some point

but that's just my outsider view of it

[young peak]

they let me know during the interview and I got confirmation in an email about a day later

[foggy perch]

meta's cash positive still?

[sour night]

Bet I have a pending offer so hopefully they can expedite my process

[foggy perch]

I feel like they super overhired during peak covid

since they assumed growth would be nonstop

[dusty basin]

They did

[naive chasm]

Is there a google sheet template a something like that for jobapps tracking here someone could point me to

[young peak]

Ah yeah they're very flexible

[young peak]

Go to pinned

[sour night]

How long after EM did they lyk abt ur offer?

[foggy perch]

a few days afterwards

< 1 week

[young peak]

a few days

3 days iirc

[foggy perch]

something around there

I feel like EM round is basically the show you aren't a crazy person round

[young peak]

BB super quick with it

[foggy perch]

unless you get a dick manager

[sour night]

EM is just behavioral?

[young peak]

I actually had fun y'know

[foggy perch]

yeah

like mine was chill

it was a person who worked there for 20 years

so they just asked some basic behaviorals

[young peak]

Depends on where you're interviewing but if its for anywhere in the US then it's most likely a behavioral mixed with OOD

[foggy perch]

and I just asked about how they liked the company

and stuff

i personally had no programming questions

for em

at most they asked me about a project/internship deep dive

but idk if i'm the common or uncommon case for this

[sour night]

Yup in US hoping for behavioral only

[young peak]

For my EM, I did 30mins of OOD and then the rest of the time I did behavioral

[foggy perch]

oh wack

[sour night]

I’m assuming tagged was good enough? Their top qs are all OOD more or less

[foggy perch]

did you actually have to type out stuff

for the OOD?

[dire yarrow]

I did not pass that round

[modest night]

tell that to meta man. I got screwed cuz im not GE🥲

[foggy perch]

guess you failed the vibe check

[dire yarrow]

Am I a crazy person?

[young peak]

I didn't really prep much aside from top 10 tagged

[foggy perch]

wait so did they make you type out a program in your EM?

[modest night]

i think everyone in this server including me is crazy.

[young peak]

Btw here's my slanky (it's 8 offers now) since y'all are new

[young peak]

Naw we justed talked about best usages of data structures for building a casino etc

[crude saffron]

How do you make those?

[foggy perch]

huhhh so did you renege any of the 8 offers or were you lucky enough to get them all at the same time

[young peak]

reneged BB

[sour night]

Lmfao for who?

[foggy perch]

which offer you accepting rn?

google i guess

since you mentioned it

[young peak]

I'm from last year but yeah Google

[foggy perch]

ohhh last year

[sour night]

Oh makes sense

[foggy perch]

nice

i was gonna say damn google this year

that's hard

[young peak]

ayoo wtf

[foggy perch]

im tryna nab roblox rn so I might renege bloomberg for that

[young peak]

Google last year was hard too 😭

[young peak]

Roblox final fucked me over

[foggy perch]

ok but this year we can't even get google interviews

[young peak]

fair

[foggy perch]

ripp how so

[young peak]

But yeah

[young peak]

Ended up with shit interviewers

[foggy perch]

f

[young peak]

mostly LC hards

[foggy perch]

huh

I've heard it's usually lc mediums

rip

[young peak]

My offers: Google, Meta, Bloomberg, Citadel, TikTok, DraftKings, Uber and a Series A startup

[foggy perch]

did Google give you more TC than meta?

[young peak]

yeah

[foggy perch]

or did you choose them bc other reasons

really

that's wack

i assumed meta would ez outbid google

[young peak]

Meta doesn't nego new grad is what I was told

[foggy perch]

rly

[young peak]

got 220k in NYC

[foggy perch]

huh

nice

220k recurring or 220k y1

[young peak]

y1

[foggy perch]

is y2 more or less

[young peak]

A bit closer but still less

[foggy perch]

huh ok

if all else fails i'll just chill at bb for 1-2 years

then tryhard apps again for 300k

[young peak]

Yeah BB is a great place to be man

[foggy perch]

true

[young peak]

All the people I talked to were chill and the WLB seems really ideal for anyone living in NYC

[foggy perch]

for me BB just feels so underwhelming because BB was literally my first NG app

I got emailed 2 days after applying

[sour night]

Ppl take BB > zon right

[foggy perch]

then I immediately got a bb offer before I even started applying anywhere else

lmao

[young peak]

they're too quick and efficient that people often get em mixed up for being ez

[foggy perch]

you don't know amazon team tho

if you apply for general New grad

it's rando team I believe is what I was told

true

[young peak]

and you don't know BB team either unless you apply for specific roles right

[foggy perch]

you choose your bb team

since you're put in training at bb

for 3 months

then you get to pick a team

you liked

[young peak]

Yeahhh that's what it was

I didn't really get a choice in my product area at G sadly

[foggy perch]

so I feel like BB you have a much better chance of a good team than amazon since BB you have a say in it

[young peak]

hoping to transfer to YT

[foggy perch]

I bet everyone odes

same for I imagine a lot of people at amazon who are NG probs want twitch

whatttt

youtube shorts is fine

[young peak]

Naw bud

I need to be able to rewind on that shit

[foggy perch]

I get less thirst traps on youtube shorts than tiktok tho

so that's what really matters

[neat shore]

Does anyone know about about cubist quant academy SWE. Is it as good as the top tier quant firms

[young peak]

that's just your recommendations bud

[foggy perch]

I can use tiktok as much as I want and I'll still get thirst traps

uh huh

nahhhh

youtube shorts is working fine for filtering thirst traps

[young peak]

bro caught on 4k

[foggy perch]

smh this is a bogus witch trial

smh

I browse cs content, but now that just means I get asian dude or women thirst traps instead

that's so depressingh

[sweet urchin]

has anyone who didnt get told to stay on for an hr round ever not get rejected lol

[foggy perch]

also rn I still can't tell if bb is selective or not

[sweet urchin]

i passed the technicals pretty convincingly but they aint say nothing

[foggy perch]

since it feels like their process is so fast

oh yeah

[hexed moth]

lmao

[foggy perch]

I've always done that

I google reddit (question)

otherwise I get quora garb age

people need to ban quora

[hexed moth]

lmfao or some blog

with 10 reasons why you should buy x y or z

[foggy perch]

but the thing is

reddit search algo also garbage

but googling reddit (question) works so much better

than directly looking a question up on reddit

two negatives make a positive

[hexed moth]

i feel like that is changing very fast

[foggy perch]

this is why we need yahoo to be great again

[hexed moth]

they're hiring 🙂

[foggy perch]

yahoo resume screen so hard tho

I get insta rejected everytime smh

passed google intern resume screen but couldn't pass yahoo lol

[formal fable]

Really? What do they want? GPA? How come they getting picky being Yahoo?

[primal cosmos]

overqualified

[foggy perch]

No idea lol

My GPA's fine at like 3.6

Maybe they're looking for specific buzzwords

[formal fable]

I'm betting on overqualification

[late kestrel]

im underqualified and got resume rejected 🙂

[fair zinc]

Any companies offering sponsorship in NYC still hiring?

[foggy perch]

Bloomberg probs

[fair zinc]

yeah I am interviewing with BB

[late kestrel]

only 11 ppl have reported offers on the process tracker tho

[thorn walrus]

true

at least they're interviewing

[foggy perch]

Guess we'll see when bloomberg hiring ends

[low scroll]

did you guys email bloomberg interviewer or recruiter after interview to thank them?

[foggy perch]

So far the great c1 and amazon seem to have fallen

[night magnet]

C1 is alive

Wdym

[foggy perch]

Is it

I heard c1 interviews are booked now

[late kestrel]

just looking at the 2022 offer numbers... i know its not even october but theres no way we get to those numbers right...?

[foggy perch]

To the brim or something

[night magnet]

Yeah but they’re still hiring

[late kestrel]

they closed the app too no?

[night magnet]

Like for ppl in the pipeline

[dusky plover]

bruh

[foggy perch]

True

[neat shore]

My c1 interview is end November

[dusky plover]

there's like 1 newgrad app for like every 60 newgrads 😂

[night magnet]

Ong

[late kestrel]

my c1 is a week from today o.O

[night magnet]

Same

[latent sun]

Anyscale interview process:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZQPmjOTU5D6x63oBsnnxGY7PnQl4JMyI42x_4cYmc9U/edit

[thorn walrus]

more like 1 for every 1000

[late kestrel]

you preppin at all?

[latent sun]

Lmaooo they have a fucking ML design question

I'm fucked

idk deep learning

[slate bobcat]

fuck

[fair zinc]

applied to Anyscale. no update yet

[slate bobcat]

Gusto isn't doing new grad

[floral plank]

Confirmed?

[dusky plover]

bro

i got rejected after stubhub recruiter phone wtf

i thought it went great

[slate bobcat]

yeah I was at a career fair thing and the recuiter said were looking to fill up our new grad roles with return intern

[late kestrel]

why they at a career fair then lmaooo

[floral plank]

Oh damn

Rip

[dusky plover]

F

[floral plank]

I had final round with them last year

[slate bobcat]

for interns

[dusky plover]

C

[late kestrel]

ah ic

[foggy perch]

Guess they gotta keep up company image and pretend like they have a reason to not lay off recruiters

[slate bobcat]

hopefully interns choose not to return

I went to the applied intution booth and asked how to standout in the process and they just have internships like Google/Meta or well known startups

I didnt wanna tell them I only interned at Vangaurd

[thorn walrus]

applied intuition was at your school?

[dusky plover]

what do u mean lol

[lilac siren]

I have, still get ghosted

[thorn walrus]

do you got to a t10 @slate bobcat

[slate bobcat]

nah it was an online career fair

[slate bobcat]

T70-80

[gilded dust]

Who here has a ng offer

[wicked pendant]

did u reach back out to ur apple recruiter? my apple team didnt have headcount but my performance was fine so theyre trying to get me in on different teams

[fair zinc]

no. I want to work in US east. My team only has offices in Cupertino

[dusky plover]

is apple even hiring rn

[slate bobcat]

nah but orange is

pear is releasing new grad roles next week too

[grizzled bronze]

Which company still offers laundry services as a perk

[rain patio]

Does anyone know what CodeSignal score is good enough for Pinterest?

[unique cargo]

Damn we have CR7 and Edinson Cavani in here. Looking for a career after retiring from soccer

[wicked rivet]

wait verkada makes you retake code signal?

it's like, different

[foggy perch]

yeah i'd probs agree for the most part

amzn final interview was ezpz

even though they're waitlisting now

[fair zinc]

you remember me?

[foggy perch]

agreed I'm just so sad they're waitlisting now because I was gonna use amzn to neg bb to 200k smh

damn

sad

signing bonus big tho

[simple elk]

do you all prefer bb over zon?

[foggy perch]

if idk Amazon team I prefer bloomberg

[bronze nymph]

most cases yes

[teal jackal]

Honestly a lot of things piss me off more than when people abuse the "important" flag on emails but it still annoys me

[pure mauve]

Sadge

[fair zinc]

2 years? not a year?

[foggy perch]

if I know Amazon is confirmed to be a good team

[bronze nymph]

that's ridiculous man

[foggy perch]

I'd prefer Amazon over bloomberg

[simple elk]

wild

[fair zinc]

that's not good

[bronze nymph]

i agree with this

[foggy perch]

ehh I think you're probs gonna stay at bb ng for 2 years anyways

I don't think it's a huge deal

[simple elk]

ah fair enough