2023_grads

[modest night]

i didnt think about this

[vast wagon]

Is there anyone get an OA of Full Stack Engineer from Arbor? (requires 15 mins for backend, 15 mins for frontend, 15 mins for Algorithm )

[primal pike]

can i hack into amazon and give myself an offer

[whole berry]

dont let them search u in here

[primal pike]

sql inject

[floral plank]

I also got it

Are they a good company?

[vast rock]

Arbor doesnt have full stack role right

Did yall just apply like to literally everywhere?

[floral plank]

They do

[floral plank]

Not really

[marble bronze]

Yes

Well, trying to apply everywhere

[vast wagon]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3249279499/?refId=yEczTvrdiMpwq8DJRZjOWg%3D%3D&trackingId=wJ%2FNFEDcywTBzj0ie4PXBA%3D%3D

[vast wagon]

Not sure, it is a startup I think~ and there is no much information about it

[vast rock]

Oh yeah i saw this

But it def doesnt look new grad lol

I suppose it doesnt hurt to try

[spice kestrel]

lmao what was that duolingo OA

soo hard for no reason

[primal pike]

is this a sign

[whole berry]

i hope so

[serene nymph]

how long does benchling take to reach out?

also, benchling does untapped for everyone, right?

[sweet urchin]

Unfortunatey, you need to get atleast 2/3 to move forward. Take the redo if you can

[opal reef]

@sweet urchin yeah I already scheduled was wondering if you had palantir interviews before and how did you prepare for them?

[sweet urchin]

no real way to prep other than neet 150

one thing to keep in mind is they purposely to sometimes ambiguous stuff in their problems in order to see if you can debug effectively, like storing numbers as strings to see if you notice

[static moth]

!process free chipotle through roblox

https://www.reddit.com/r/freebies/comments/xdgs0l/free_chipotle_burrito_thru_roblox_app_at_3pm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[static moth]

never knew i'd use those words in the same sentence

[small mountain]

was there DP?

[knotty talon]

did atlassian close?

[weak latch]

Has anybody gotten Microsoft OA?

[knotty talon]

this is the ind of quality content i come to this discord for

[slate bobcat]

WHO KEEPS PINGING ME

@rain patio

STOP

STOP IT

CEASE TO CONTNUE

[uncut umbra]

yes

[uncut umbra]

lmao no

[paper magnet]

How long does google take to het bavk after oa ?

[uncut umbra]

you got the oa?

[knotty talon]

pain

i didnt see the posting until today

all these companies closing in 0.2 days got me down bad

[paper magnet]

Yes

Any idea ?

[knotty talon]

[uncut umbra]

facts lol I did the apm the day it came out too

[knotty talon]

i applied with a referral too

from a really good friend who hyped me up

so im still optimistic they're just taking a minute and im not just getting ghosted forever

🥲

[weak latch]

[compact vortex]

😢

no

[weak latch]

its a 👻

[grizzled bronze]

Nice! I just downloaded and played the game, but didn't get any code. Then I realized I need to play again at either 7 AM PT or 3 PM PT since that's when they give the codes

[weak latch]

i have my oa scheduled, but my app still shows nothing yet

[compact vortex]

all my google ghosts/rejects

hoping i can manifest new grad

[weak latch]

😭

[compact vortex]

this time i got referred too

but idk if referrals ever make a difference

[grizzled bronze]

There's two types of referrals, if the person actually knows you and selected that referral type then maybe that helps at least get your app reviewed faster

[late kestrel]

where do you see this at

[compact vortex]

amazon will get back to u lol

[nova reef]

I assume you're a student in canada right?

intl student I meant

oh you're applying from those countries? must be rough

[knotty talon]

i would assume more will open, but with the shitty economy its tuff to know

[surreal shuttle]

is sudan sanctioned too?

Why is it sanctioned in the first place?

i never heard anything bad about it

[static moth]

is sugondeze also sanctioned?

[knotty talon]

sugondeeze what?? 🤔 😯 🙀

[small mountain]

joe

[static moth]

hey bro who's joe??

[compact vortex]

my guess for google is when they re-open the new grad listing, they will start reaching out to people who applied at the first window

[clever orbit]

Is HRT OA codesignal?

[west egret]

I hope they re-open. I at least want the chance to be rejected from them.

[grizzled bronze]

@static moth yo I just played the game again but still no code. How did they send it to you?

[grizzled bronze]

Oh wait, @static moth , I just got the code. Thanks! 🙏

[formal fable]

Yeah, but not necessarily GCA

[static moth]

i got 0 clue lmaooo

i don't even live in the US so i'm not eligible

[clever orbit]

GCA?

[tardy geode]

day 2 of praying for wet inboxes for everyone in this server

[formal fable]

General Coding Assessment, you get a score that can be reused if another company gives you a GCA

[clever orbit]

aaah, thanks

[static moth]

they layin off 11 percent

rip

ya huge rip

[grizzled bronze]

Ahoy

[static moth]

that is if ur manager is still at the company 😭

[tardy geode]

seeing layoff news increases my already anxiety x2

[static moth]

that's really nice

[weak latch]

are you working there rn???

[glad thunder]

Took me a week

[weak latch]

changed it to august?

they accelerated it? 😂

[sonic coral]

Tale as old as time

The c suite is untouchable

Execs need their million dollar bonuses, regular employees be damned

[old smelt]

You mean October?

[latent sun]

hey guys ik amazon is backed up

but

i did my OA2

two days ago

and i heard back today

for final round

or atleast hinting to it?

[dusky ledge]

Had a question about capital one, is it a good sign if I have a call scheduled to hear about power day updates?

[rustic vessel]

Congrats on the offer

[plush crane]

did anyone else just get resume rejected from pinterest?

[floral plank]

No

still waiting to hear back

[silk cape]

they called me to reject me last year 💀

[normal palm]

yes lol

out of curiosity, are you canadian?

[plush crane]

no i'm from us

i think this is the first time i actually got resume rejected

usually i just get ghosted

[floral plank]

When did you apply?

[normal palm]

this was for the University Grad Software Engineer (USA) role right

[plush crane]

9/9

[plush crane]

yeah that's the one

[normal palm]

weird, i got an email for it too but it didn't update yet on the actual pinterest careers page

it's also weird because they rejected me so quickly, i applied on 9/10

[dusky ledge]

Capital one

[normal palm]

did your pinterest careers update too?

[rustic vessel]

Interesting, applied on 9/9 and haven’t heard anything

[plush crane]

yeah same here. last year i got rejected for their internship pos on 2/11 by email and the portal updated on 2/12

[normal palm]

oh rip

[plush crane]

did you have any issues submitting your app

[austere mesa]

does bloomberg blacklist people
they didn’t send me a invite to campus event lol

i did pretty shit on interview last year

[plush crane]

when i tried logging in with my old account info, i got an error but then it worked by logging through linkedin

idk if that messed something up

[nova reef]

I just got rejected too

but I got the OA for their MLE role

[silk cape]

anyone know if twitter will be opening for new grad

[static moth]

same. i got the interview as an intern last year tho 😭

inb4 blacklist cuz i bombed it xd

[nova reef]

is pinterest actually hiring general sde new grad this year lol

the other two ppl I know got their OAs for the MLE roles as well

[normal palm]

i dont understand how my resume was "that" bad LOL that they immediately rejected me

there's no way

[nova reef]

they prob just want someone with a specific skillset I guess

[normal palm]

"specific skillset"

[plush crane]

i think i might reapply with a different email in a few months

[normal palm]

send me your resume in dms i want to see if we have any similarities

[frank wedge]

I said this before but we are mostly hiring backfill for high priority positions. I’m surprised there’s even a new grad app up. I’d say MLE and Mobile have some favorable nudge but I didn’t think they would open apps until 2023 or something

[nova reef]

yea that's what I thought too

so prob anyone who didn't have mobile experience would just get resume rejected

[static moth]

i have mobile exp but still got rejected xd

[nova reef]

dang

[static moth]

it's totally rng honestly

can't get fixated with 1 company L

we just move onto the next one

[normal palm]

i mean the fact that pinterest rejected us with pretty friggin good resumes means that it had to either be a mistake or they're only taking incredibly competitive applicants

and yeh it is rng

i'd be very interested to see who does get a pinterest reply

[nova reef]

for general sde yea

[normal palm]

i have mobile dev exp

[nova reef]

oh yea I was just guessing based on what @frank wedge said about their backfilling needs

and I did hear back from their MLE new grad role, so that kinda makes sense

[quick wraith]

applying to citadel

any fake ideas for a c++ project

[old smelt]

Sadly even ppl with 3x FAANG and top 10 CS are having difficulties getting interviews this year

[quick wraith]

itsover

[livid yew]

Hello 2023 grads! how is everyone's week going?

[quick wraith]

bad

[livid yew]

all W's I hope

oh no

why

?

[floral plank]

Bad

[quick wraith]

no interviews

[livid yew]

I see

[quick wraith]

go to a t15 uni everybody gets interviews

talking 200k+ TC

[slate bobcat]

[quick wraith]

be me with no interviews

[livid yew]

well how low are you willing to go for a SWE job?

[quick wraith]

150k

I have an offer for that

[livid yew]

not bad

what location?

[quick wraith]

Boston

[livid yew]

that is still a really good backup tbh

at some point, you will need to sit down and consider

Start 150k job, get exp and start making money, then start a new cycle

[rustic vessel]

Is citadel even recruiting

Seems like they’ve been rather silent

[floral plank]

What company?

[livid yew]

yeah then my referrals are useless to you

[quick wraith]

wayfair

[livid yew]

nice

hey @quick wraith can you get me coupon for Wayfair

[quick wraith]

it will become bankrupt in a couple years 😢

[quick wraith]

sure let me ask my recruiter 🤣

[livid yew]

bet

I have like 2k of stuff to buy lmao

[normal palm]

Bruh

[livid yew]

yeah @quick wraith I am a SWE2 and barely hit 150k TC rn lmao

you guys have your bar very high this year

but that is a good thing

I am #2020_grad btw so

[quick wraith]

where do you work? brother

[livid yew]

currently at Comcast

[quick wraith]

can I get a discount on my internet?

[livid yew]

was a worthwhile step from last job though

I went from 80K TC to 140K TC

so

[livid yew]

sure let me ask my HR

[quick wraith]

is it remote?

[livid yew]

nah, I am moving to Philly

this was a plan I had for a while tbh

I am ready to get out of the Midwest

[livid yew]

Remote is such a weird concept for me

cause my last job from 2020-2022 was all in-office

so now my temp remote situation is weird

Yup it's like NYC lite

I got connections in all the east coast cities

So when I do eventually move it's gonna be easy

Your mom is a bit sketch

[weak latch]

bruh someone in my senior design class is pitching a quantitative analysis project

with a neural network

[quick wraith]

want to move to austin to cheap out on taxes

[normal palm]

Kek

[normal palm]

Ur at zon right?

[late kestrel]

i heard back in under 1 business day for bb phone

[livid yew]

nope

@normal palm check our DM lmao

we talked about this

[late kestrel]

id give it 5 business days and then reach out. i also dk if i got the final, they have me doin a 1h zoom interview now

[floral plank]

I still didn't hear back from SIG

I feel like I am not gonna move forward cuz they said they wanted someone with C++

and I don't know that

Mine was last week on Tuesday

[late kestrel]

i meant final technical, idk if the 1h zoom interview is actually the final tech, even tho the recruiter seemed to say it was

the virtual onsite

[austere mesa]

how long after apply do u guys get bloomberg interview

i got a coffee chat like a week after and nothing since

[teal jackal]

should i reapply to bloomberg with an alt email? they resume rejected me

or would it be a waste of time

[floral plank]

Anyone did Circle or Seatgeek oa and didn't hear back?

[calm shale]

circle rejected me instantly after oa lmao

[teal jackal]

whats the codesignal threshold for circle?

is it 820+?

[calm shale]

i mean i submitted 842

[floral plank]

What was your score?

[teal jackal]

ive only seen rejects with my score(780)

[floral plank]

So OA is auto?

[calm shale]

pretty sure

[floral plank]

oh that makes so much sense

why I didn't hear back

I thought you were pretty much guarenteed a phone if you do well on oa lol

[sonic coral]

Techie got shooters in the east

[floral plank]

That sucks cuz my only other interview is bloomberg

[calm shale]

is seatgeek phone just hr stuff?

[floral plank]

Yea

How much they pay?

Oh so it it more and it is in ny

Yea c1 isn't

I mean C1 is good but I definitley want to see if i can do better

[calm shale]

Does anyone know what to expect from

[floral plank]

Yea I did take amazon too

Hopefully Amazon gives oa

[rain patio]

[late kestrel]

still no zon oa 🥲

if i get bb would love to have zon to nego, but zon wont give oa 😡

god damn was that even english

[austere mesa]

what do u guys write

for why u want to work at company

i just write bullshit about wanting to make impact

and try to sound interested in product

[calm shale]

bro same

[late kestrel]

[normal palm]

Loool

[late kestrel]

yeah id consider it for sure, but i think id like nyc more than most locations zon would give

well you dont really get a choice on location

[nimble tinsel]

I got zon, but I'm scared of pip

id go for BB after negotiation, my interview coming up next week

[simple elk]

Don't be bottom 5%

ezpz

[brittle marten]

did anyone do bloomberg final?

[late kestrel]

also bb main office looks rly fukkin cool

[brittle marten]

did mine yesterday and afterwards the recruiter was like come back in half an hour for HR

[late kestrel]

think thats pretty good news

[brittle marten]

i just want an offer to not be deported 😦

fuck Nuro for not having headcount

[calm shale]

but bezos balls

[brittle marten]

whats the highest BB will go for NG lol

can they go to 90k sign on

[crude saffron]

Sold

[brittle marten]

150 30

imma tell them im expecting nuro return and ask them to match

LMFAO

recruiting so shit this year

i was recommended for one but no headcount

they said they will get back in Oct

but like im graduating in Dec

so don't want to leave anything to chances

nope 😦

[blazing dune]

has amazon or msft started interviewing yet?

[brittle marten]

oh yea

[late kestrel]

i saw someone in here got like $214k first year after negos

[brittle marten]

ayo thats not bad

220k nyc

will take it over 240k bumfuck mountain view lol

did final + HR yesterday

they said they will get back within 24 hours

[wicked pendant]

yeah i also got hr scheduled like a half hr after final

i have another round though

[brittle marten]

did it come right after?

[wicked pendant]

senior manager

[brittle marten]

fuck

gl broski

[late kestrel]

your final 3 hours?

[brittle marten]

2 coding then some HR shit

[wicked pendant]

gl u too, theyre not making u do senior manager round?

[old smelt]

Did u get exceeds? They told me they expect to have more HC in Oct but the hiring managers will likely choose based on perf review

[brittle marten]

no fucking clue

[swift urchin]

did they tell you in the initial final scheduling that everything would be in one go?

[brittle marten]

1 exceeds 2 meet lol

rip

[late kestrel]

yeah but timewise

[wicked pendant]

nah mine was scheduling like on the fly it was weird

[nimble tinsel]

Did they give feedback after your interviews right after?

[wicked pendant]

first hour of final was one day, at the end of that they scheduled a second hour for the next day, and then halfway through that i got scheduling for recruiter/hr round

[swift urchin]

gotcha, I had my first round of the finals monday and the interviewer was like wait for hr to reach out but they haven't said anything yet

[brittle marten]

no thats for nuro lol

i did 2 coding rounds back to back

then i left to smoke some weed

and the recruiter was like

pls go back

for HR round

based

[swift urchin]

not sure if I should follow up with my recruiter yet or give them some courtesy time and send an email Friday morning about it

[brittle marten]

did you do HR

lmfao i have HRT phone in 10 mins

[swift urchin]

not yet, just technical

[brittle marten]

imma be fucked like the pig in black mirror

[wicked pendant]

omg hrt pog

gl man

[dense blaze]

@reef kettle hola mi amor

[brittle marten]

just 1st phone 😦

but ty ❤️

recruiting so dry this year

i asked my msft recruiter if i could have my new grad offer from last year back

ghost since july

yea

i delayed graduation for 1 sem

lowkey should have interviewed for FB in the new new grad wave back in Feb

i got an FB new grad but not nyc not GE and didn' take it

then some motherfuckers got GE offer for NYC in the new wave earlier this year

nuro >>

[errant karma]

if this is true nothing will ever satisfy you

[blissful sonnet]

usually the offer count for international students is 0

if you got above 0, you are cracked

[rain patio]

Im so sad im waiting for final round replies from last week

Im not getting any emails 😦

[errant karma]

As an international student you just need to utilize internships for New Grad return offer

[patent gyro]

what was your codesignal score?

[pastel bane]

is indeed slowing hiring again?

[floral plank]

they never opened apps

for new grad

[unique ice]

Is it weird that I applied to a position, 3 days later I randomly got an 1 hour interview with the engineer director (recruiter never talked to me before lol)

[floral plank]

what company?

[unique ice]

amex

the job description requires 4+ YOE

but i somehow got the interview

idk if they messed up or the director liked my resume

i got 0 yoe and no internship

[floral plank]

weird

I guess just do it snd see

[pastel bane]

what is apps?

[unique ice]

i had another positon at amex but recruiter ghosted me (been 2 weeks) after my first 30 mins behaviour round

[floral plank]

I mean the application

[pastel bane]

they opened some in Japan.

[late kestrel]

best email in weeks

[pastel bane]

never opened in the USA?

[patent gyro]

u guys know any company that gives auto Codesignal OAs?

need to increase my score 😬

[night magnet]

C1

Roblox

[prime hill]

https://app.codesignal.com/get-certified?invite=TGy6wcugpm4LMFEQX

[grizzled bronze]

What does the community forum look like? Screenshot?

[latent sun]

what’s this

[prime hill]

It's for bloom institute of technology or something like that

It's like the old square/block link

[prisma basin]

hey for HRT how long after you apply do they send you the code signal?

[livid yoke]

Have any of you interviewed for Nuro full time roles?

[formal fable]

Usually 2-3 days

[late kestrel]

on mobile

[floral plank]

so its like Blind?

[late kestrel]

seems like it

[prime hill]

Hmm I don't remember getting off the whitelist but the app just let me log in with my Google account

[whole berry]

Ay man

Can I just email zon and ask for offer

[grizzled bronze]

Oh interesting

Make a post shitting on Amazon, that'll get things kickstarted

[low scroll]

has anyone done jpmc oa?

or flexport

[late kestrel]

ive done both

[low scroll]

how are they

[late kestrel]

jpmc was like 2 generic lc meds

flexport was 1 lc med, 1 api question, 1 sql, and 3 mcs

everything was straight forward except for the sql question, that one was tough asf

[low scroll]

can I dm you?

[late kestrel]

sure

[prime palm]

How long after Palantir karat do you hear if you move forward or not?

[shrewd ivy]

Guys how does Bloomberg virtual on site work? I finished phone 9/1 and just now got an email for virtual onsite

Is it lc? I heard bbg ask system design?

[pastel bane]

surprisingly I found Indeed is actually not a popular company in the US.

[floral plank]

Not surprised

Their website looks like it was made in 2002

Apparently Zip Recruiter Pay is pog

[west egret]

Indeed does look pretty outdated

[calm shale]

sql cringe

[west egret]

I don’t think I ever used it during internship recruiting

[shell fern]

I don’t know one person who uses it tbh

[floral plank]

I used for when I was applying to tutoring jobs during highschool

[west egret]

How long did it take for JPMC response after OA?

I think I did mine last Monday or so

[late kestrel]

havent heard anything yet. its been like a month too

[west egret]

Granted I wouldn’t take it if I get my return offer. Just wanted something as backup though.

[grizzled bronze]

I use Indeed often, not for submitting my resume but searching up latest job listings. LinkedIn is better for that, but there are times when Indeed has some listings showing up first.

[knotty talon]

do y'all know how much datadog can be negotiated? mostly wondering if they can match/compete w/ bloomberg (208k first year, 178k recurring)

[late kestrel]

did u nego bb +$28k base?

[wind drum]

lmao notion recruiter told me to straight up take an ft offer and renege it later if i do their internship and get a return offer

[knotty talon]

bet

how much is it?

actually

levels i guess is non-updated

[frank wedge]

Is that 178k base?

[knotty talon]

nah

it's with the target bonus

its like 155k base, 23k target bonus

30k bonus FY

🤝

[wind drum]

they can definitely give you more first year but i think recurring would be around the same

[knotty talon]

bet bet

this economy just got me perpetually down bad in terms of getting more offers

o well

it b like that

[maiden hornet]

are you returning to ddog?

[knotty talon]

the opposite. That's my returning offer for bloomberg

but im in the process for ddog rn

[latent sun]

pog

i got the 1x30

amazon

i’m in the queue for scheduling

[knotty talon]

it was definiely a welcome surprise

[rain patio]

same here its been like 2 weeks

[lapis cove]

its higher than u wld expect from a financial company like that imo

[sonic sand]

Anyone has given ThoughtSpot interview? Or know the process?

[late kestrel]

its more fintech rly. their main money maker is literally hardware+software

[knotty talon]

bloomberg makes a shitton of bread and they have essentially no competition

[late kestrel]

bloomberg terminal

thats about it

thats their money maker

[knotty talon]

damn i was trynna apply to palantir solely to see if i get an offer to negotiate, and they ask for essays and shit when all i know about them is that they help deport children 😔

[green bronze]

What did u get on OA1 and who did you email?

[knotty talon]

y'all think i can say that in their why palantir essays

[serene fable]

It's officially been 2 weeks since my Amazon 1x30, emailed them today and haven't gotten a response

[ancient holly]

me with no response from amazon

[serene fable]

There should be a group for people waiting on amazon responses

[ancient holly]

may i ask when did u apply?

[floral plank]

Same

[ancient holly]

heart broken

[floral plank]

By next week it would be a month for me

[serene fable]

I applied in July, everything's felt pretty smooth until now

[ancient holly]

18 would be a month

for me

[ancient holly]

smartt

[late kestrel]

yall are getting oas?!!?!?!

[floral plank]

Last year I felt like I applied too early

This year I applied too late

[late kestrel]

i got 17 bitches but zon oa aint one

[ancient holly]

last year i applied early and got into that aws shit

never knew a recruiting team can be fired during the recruiting process

[dusty frost]

nah

as long u apply to amazon in sept, i think is optimal time

before that, even if u get the amazon interview, ur killing ur prep time imo

unless ur already ready to interview

[serene fable]

Took about a month from application to oa but only a week from oa to interview scheduling

[floral plank]

Yea I feel like this time I ready for oa

[weak latch]

What the hell is WayUp

[late kestrel]

yet another job app site

online resume site

[proud sapphire]

Guys, how are you doing? Anyone applied to DocuSign yet? I will appreciate it if you can send me the link to the application…

[weak latch]

I just got an email from them saying
“A recruiter from Expedia Group just sent you a message on WayUp

Hey <redacted>,
I saw your profile and think you’d be a great fit for the Data Science, Analytics I – New Graduate with Expedia Group that was just posted.

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Is it a scam site

I don’t remember ever making an account on WayUp

[late kestrel]

sounds like you have a wayup account

and no its not a scam site

[weak latch]

Weird

[late kestrel]

but those are essentially just spam, i dont think they actually help at all besides letting you know its open to apply to

[weak latch]

Maybe some company uses it that I applied to in the spring

And I just forgot

[latent sun]

i got all test cases

and i have a recruiter assigned to me

[floral plank]

Not a scam

But most of those emails mean nothing

[ripe marsh]

CodeSignal just now verified my test after rejecting it for “technical issues” last week

Lmao

[outer radish]

does anyone feel like they're squeezing juice out of a cumquat this recruiting season

[formal fable]

They send these a lot. 99% of these are bullshit jobs. They're more spam than anything else

[weak latch]

I figured as much

[formal fable]

I get an email a day from them

Started off with internships, but now, I get anywhere between random tech jobs to even door to door salesman

[floral plank]

ripplematch

they always recommend me companies where I said I don't want to work for them

like Nokia

[serene fable]

Lol are we all fucked

[formal fable]

Ripplematch is ridiculously shitty. First, their onboarding folks will lure you in on LinkedIn with a legit looking job post. They'll ask you to create a profile. Then, their shitty recommendation UI will throw up like 3 relevant jobs, and then for the rest of the year, you get like 1 useful SWE job in 6 months, and everything else is some bullshit seminar or random job

[formal fable]

They don't have any companies other than the 3-4 they got probably a year ago when they were founded. Yet, they have the audacity to email me to check on "new jobs" every month.

Less spammy than way up though

[autumn ridge]

Practice vs actual RIP. Are the practice code signals easier?

damn yeah it felt easier then most of the regular codesignals lol

[floral plank]

I got 819 on thier oa and still didn't hear back

[azure zephyr]

has anyone taken the expedia hackerrank? Or the AT&T one

[autumn ridge]

Yeah I took both so far

[azure zephyr]

cool if I DM?

@autumn ridge

[autumn ridge]

yeah go ahead

[languid charm]

how many days does amazon taking for updat after final interview?

[serene fable]

Depends, if you're in the US it's anyone's guess

[gilded vortex]

yeah really depends

mine was exactly a week later

[fresh rock]

US location?

[gilded vortex]

yeah

[fresh rock]

Then I should get it today * fingers crossed *

[eternal hatch]

Within a year

[fresh rock]

Also was it 1x30 or 2x60?

[gilded vortex]

2x60

[serene fable]

When did you interview?

[frank wedge]

Their recruiter connections aren’t bad though, idk if that’s specific to ripplematch but I’ve received super fast connections applying through them

[shell fern]

https://jobs.lever.co/spotify/7a4e5b83-aaae-4af7-86b1-2f5f47b042b1 ? potential entry level role? not really a python guy so thought i would share

[frank wedge]

Ebay, Pinterest, Affirm, and Sap I can speak for at least

[gilded vortex]

got offer 2 weeks ago, interviewed 3

[sudden depot]

im not understanding the wording of this question

do i say yes, if im an us citizen?

[ivory stratus]

Yes

[gilded vortex]

yeah

[sudden depot]

ok thx

[serene fable]

Maybe you got in before the crunch then, sounds like people haven't been getting responses since 2 weeks ago

[plush crane]

What does bloomberg’s unnegotiated comp look like?

[rain patio]

how long does it take to hear back from Palantir after HR round?

[lament summit]

few days

[late kestrel]

like 150k base + 20k signing + 10k reloc

[lapis cove]

im betting on roblox

[late kestrel]

is that for the normal signon or just bc of the additional

[peak ferry]

prorated over 2 yr is meh, 1 yr vest p common

[gilded vortex]

at least it is prorated, i have an offer where you have to refund the entire amount if you leave before 2 years

[peak ferry]

oh ya ik but I mean vest in terms of keepsies

no perf bonuses? unfortunate

o so like ~180 recurring? not too bad

had a v similar offer in tech it's ight

getting 200 recurring has been like fucking pulling teeth everywhere I go

[worthy sapphire]

how does the first round of bloomberg be? I got a hacker rank link and a zoom link. Did anyone attend recently?

[plush crane]

Is the perf bonus on top of base, sign on, and reloc for year 1

[low scroll]

did expedia open for a few hours then close? I can't find their application

[gilded vortex]

are you required to be in ny for bloomberg

[late kestrel]

its on wayup still

[low scroll]

what's that

[peak ferry]

are u planning on signing palantir? I'm pretty meh on it

[late kestrel]

https://www.wayup.com/i-Internet-j-Software-Development-Engineer-I-New-Graduate-Expedia-Group-432774072713546/?clickcastid=30508319-35357&utm_source=jora&utm_medium=jobxml&utm_campaign=JoraXML-APPS-Austin-TX-3230291-30508319&refer=joraxml-JoraXML-APPS-Austin-TX-compid-3230291-pk-30508319-Main Campaign-cid-41398819348&cid=41398819348

[peak ferry]

they fucked up scheduling and I didn't bother following up (again)

[formal fable]

How many? I've had a couple of swift connections as well, but that was over 6 months ago and they've had like 3 new relevant jobs since then. Their problem is wasting everyone's time by onboarding onto another platform with barely any traffic

[peak ferry]

meta GE is busted tho, yuge growth just not guaranteed 100%

also if you avg yr1/yr2 good enough lol

[formal fable]

I've had more Bloomberg interviews than I've had connections via Ripplematch

[peak ferry]

yea was gonna say I think that's overall avg

do meta returns do team matching again?

o wait I literally know a return, yes LOL

[lament summit]

if u get GE it would be 280k

so id take meta

o

then probs pltr

[peak ferry]

ngl I'd need to learn more abt palantir, but I might still take meta bc perks and other shit is nice at meta

[late kestrel]

no idea i dont think anyones gotten thru their process yet here

[peak ferry]

one of my homies in NYC had their team take basically a workcation to menlo park for close to no reason LOL

[dense cloud]

ur im told u?

[stark portal]

Hello, does any one has experience interviewing with ADP? It would be great if you could me on the process!

[dense cloud]

inhaling massive hopium for the return offer rn

[peak ferry]

ye, and he gets a bunch of random shit comp'd by work like gym and some other crap

[dense cloud]

idk man but id take palantir for now and decide later

[peak ferry]

metamates lets go kekw

[late kestrel]

@next crescent @shrewd ocean hows expedia offer lookin

[dense cloud]

meta has good career growth though but its just doing p bad atm

[peak ferry]

idk exactly how palantir's business works but they basically seem like a glorified consulting company to me mid/10

[azure zephyr]

you got meta return?

EE?

ohhh gotcha

[peak ferry]

oh ya, not specifying ur role, just their general business seems like consulting which I don't see explosive growth in

[azure zephyr]

im curious what is most important to you guys in choosing an offer?

[solemn tinsel]

I'd accept and renege if needed. Idt EE's are getting offers anytime soon

[compact obsidian]

TC, wlb, company name/product

[peak ferry]

How neat is the work, how much will I get paid, do the coworkers seem chill, career growth, comp

[compact obsidian]

in that order

[solemn tinsel]

I really liked my Meta team

so I would

[shrewd ocean]

touching 150 first year then 140 recurring, this is for seattle btw

[peak ferry]

exit op = stonk print or?

[late kestrel]

cool thanks @misty thunder theres your answer

[peak ferry]

gotcha

[azure zephyr]

oh expedia offer sounds nice then

[peak ferry]

yea I forgot about that, I attribute some value to hft firms for that resume value

[azure zephyr]

it seems like wlb is good there too from what i read on blind

[west egret]

Didn’t know Expedia was offering that much.

[late kestrel]

wonder how much expedia chicago would be

wouldnt mind that at all

[shrewd ocean]

ye wlb is very chill there

[azure zephyr]

i know back in high school there was a lot of hype around expedia, amazon, and boeing for seattle companies lol

but that was five yrs ago, idk how covid impacted them

[compact obsidian]

no msft lol?

[peak ferry]

nope, but interviewing rn. just a cit final, did akuna a bit ago

[next crescent]

Can confirm

[peak ferry]

cit final is my last technical actually

[azure zephyr]

sorry msft too

[peak ferry]

I'm home free and idk what to do anymore

[dense cloud]

damn cit just asked me lc hards lol

during final

[peak ferry]

cit barely asked me lc in my finals guess they really are hella random

[dense cloud]

but os is study-able just grind ostep

[azure zephyr]

enjoy senior year 😭

[peak ferry]

I'm graduated I have nothing to enjoy

[dense cloud]

lc hard needs eureka moments

[west egret]

What’s Expedia process like btw?

Just OA -> final?

[peak ferry]

got a sys design (didn't prep at all), some concurrency, and I literally don't remember what else I got asked LOL just random small problems with edge cases and crap

[compact obsidian]

no flexibility on adjusting locations?

[peak ferry]

do they have locations in ur preferred place or nah? if u wouldn't even consider the offer u may as well bail unless u need practice or smth

[compact obsidian]

u dont like those locations?

[azure zephyr]

if u dont wanna work in that location and you already have offers in the preferred location, i'd say withdrawal tbh no point in doing interview for funsies

[lament summit]

anyone else feeling burnt out already lmao

failing two finals at the start of the season isnt really helping motivate me

[peak ferry]

yes interviews exhausting

[next crescent]

That's only for intern, for SDE I+ its usually OA, 2 technicals then team fit as a final

[lament summit]

[solemn tinsel]

@jagged ravine what'd you work on at Meta?

[azure zephyr]

yeah i just keep telling myself that im setting myself up for the future

[peak ferry]

I've done like 5 finals and I'm dead af 💀

[dense cloud]

damn

[peak ferry]

oh shit that was you, that project is hella cool

[dense cloud]

i wna work on instagram too

[peak ferry]

optimization goes brrrr

[late kestrel]

this makes it sound like its still OA->final

[azure zephyr]

was it hard to implement?

[next crescent]

Hmm, maybe my team is just unique then

[azure zephyr]

sounds complicated

[dense cloud]

how did u end up in that team

[peak ferry]

eh I'm sure misc people do it, intc compiler is fancy too, nvidia has their cuda compiler etc etc, but yea much more niche than general swe

[azure zephyr]

wow...thats amazing though you were able to learn a lot. im sure its helping u rn in interviews lol

[shrewd ivy]

actual dp on the job

[high ermine]

anybody got IMC OA full score?

[peak ferry]

ya lots of things are more sexy than compilers lul

[solemn tinsel]

yea IMC OA was fun

[azure zephyr]

makes me wish that meta was doing new grad

[peak ferry]

I wish recession was canceled too

[azure zephyr]

i love graduating into a recession

[west egret]

I don’t even get the chance to be rejected by Meta/Google

[lament summit]

my recruiter said they will

[azure zephyr]

lets make an extremely competitive field even more competitive by limiting big tech jobs

[peak ferry]

I got the chance to be ghosted by google :)

[west egret]

I mean wasn’t 2020 worse overall

[peak ferry]

2020 was worse but also short and bad, couple months later market was hot

[dense cloud]

my recruiter has no updates

[azure zephyr]

i thought this recruiting cycle brings some different anxieties tho. like we have to worry about getting our offers reneged like a week before starting lol

[small mountain]

100%

[lament summit]

Proof:

[small mountain]

i dont think i'll be excited if i get an offer bc of this

[peak ferry]

isn't that right now

[lament summit]

:/

[small mountain]

late summer

its nearly oct

wtf

[azure zephyr]

never though twilio would lay off 11%

[dense cloud]

whats the chances of market recovering anytime soon

[peak ferry]

recruiter info is meh, the only exclusion I heard of was for certain ML roles otherwise their freeze is pretty solid (as of a while back tbf)

[west egret]

Yeah that’s one thing that’s been in the back of my head this season.

[floral plank]

sometimes recruiters says apps don't open till a month later but then the next day it opens lol

[rain patio]

💀

[west egret]

Even if I get some a really good offer. Who knows if it’ll be taken away due to “business needs”.

Probably gonna keep up in LC even after I get offers.

[shrewd ivy]

meta won't do external new grad because they still have tons of interns without return offers.

[wicked pendant]

meta confirmed their new grad was opening in october at tapia

[peak ferry]

I was mid interview before the freeze and they never got back to me lol

[wicked pendant]

yeah im also dubious about the amount of ppl theyll actually hire but just confirming there will be an app

recruiter also said itll be codesignal

[thick shell]

For Meta New Grad?

[wicked pendant]

yea

[thick shell]

Damn so no more straight to Phone 😔

[stable wharf]

I mean it’s tough they really overhired and then the macro env changed

So yeah it’s just a shit year to be a see

Swe

[ivory stratus]

yeah im just hoping for a job then once the job market gets better, hop over to a bigger company for better tc

[stable wharf]

When the market ramps up again and they need to hire if you survive this you can really squeeze them

Because they’ll have shut the talent pipe for a few years and it’s just gonna be you

[ivory stratus]

yeeee

[kind galleon]

Ahoy!

[ivory stratus]

my goal is just to get a job then aply for ng again next year

[stable wharf]

Fuck meta

[ivory stratus]

i mean yeah but that tc

[prime hill]

Fuck meta

[blissful sonnet]

what company is it?

[teal iris]

is there anyway I can get a free codesignal?

[lament summit]

[lament summit]

gotchu

[blissful sonnet]

I thought meta won't be giving even return offers to interns?

[lament summit]

https://app.codesignal.com/get-certified?invite=TGy6wcugpm4LMFEQX

[blissful sonnet]

At least the last time that's all I heard

[teal iris]

tysm ur a legend

[pure mauve]

damn what a beast

[autumn ridge]

I heard they are giving return offers to GE interns and then like the poster above still undecided on EE interns.

[tardy geode]

zon has the worst application form

[prime hill]

GE interns have been getting offers 1-2 weeks immediately after end date (although ppl are reporting longer delays now). EE & MA are still waiting

[tardy geode]

what's MA?

[quick wraith]

Is citadel OA auto?

[past lagoon]

is bloomberg onsite the final round?

[dense cloud]

meet (all) expectations

[lilac siren]

Yes

[quick wraith]

Hopes dashed

[blissful sonnet]

I've been applying for 5 weeks and already got exhausted af

[weak latch]

there's another tapia?

how do i sign up

or do you mean at the tapia that happened, they made an announcement about it

[wicked pendant]

oh no i meant that like

they confirmed it when i talked to them at tapia

i just asked a recruiter at their booth

[dusty halo]

Can anyone share the expedia new grad link? Can't find on their website.

[coarse quiver]

@slim agate how is the grind going?

[slim agate]

Started doing some LC

Still pretty rusty

[coarse quiver]

do u want to schedule bs sessions?

I'm quite rusty too

[slim agate]

Need to start with bs

Yes

[coarse quiver]

how do you want to schedule?

[slim agate]

I’m free in the mornings after 10 AM PT time

Usually

[coarse quiver]

I'm grinding return offer at G

[slim agate]

You’ll get it

[coarse quiver]

• my team is filled of grinders

[slim agate]

How’s it going?

[coarse quiver]

so I'm at home at 8pm

Excellent

[slim agate]

I’m hoping for a return. Still waiting for HC

[coarse quiver]

Writing my design doc . I did some codelabs the first 3 weeks

[slim agate]

Yeah, same

[coarse quiver]

do you still have access to ur google account?

[slim agate]

Nope

[coarse quiver]

I was going to message u

[slim agate]

Lol, maybe during full-time

[coarse quiver]

That's perfect, it's 7 pm here in Zurich

so we can schedule daily bs at 11am or 12 pm

[slim agate]

Works for me

[coarse quiver]

Did u finish your project?

[slim agate]

Yes, finished project + stretch goal + another feature

[thick shell]

Can anyone let me know if the J.P Morgan New Grad OA has a deadline?

[coarse quiver]

By finishing do you also mean implementing monitoring, logging, ...

[thick shell]

I got it around 7 days ago and want to be prepared as possible

[slim agate]

Yes, implementing + used in prod

[coarse quiver]

Did u do 996?

[slim agate]

Nope

12 to 6

[coarse quiver]

lmao

cracked

[coarse quiver]

How long did you take to finish your main project?

[slim agate]

Around 9-10 weeks

From the start

[coarse quiver]

When did you start coding on your project?

[slim agate]

Around 4th week

[modest night]

does bloomberg have a system designs interview for new grads?

[coarse quiver]

yes

[modest night]

how difficult is it?

[coarse quiver]

When did you start writing a design doc?

[coarse quiver]

🎲, are u familiar with system design?

[slim agate]

mid 2nd week

[coarse quiver]

[modest night]

nope

im a LC maniac

[slim agate]

Or prob 3rd week

[coarse quiver]

I started my 4th week

this week

[slim agate]

That’s fine I think

[coarse quiver]

yeah

my internship lasts 3.5 months

my manager asked me to focus on properly onboard before coding

[slim agate]

that’s pretty cool. You have a lot of time

[coarse quiver]

I should start coding tomorrow

on my project

not dummy CLs of codelabs

[slim agate]

CL reviews take the most time

[coarse quiver]

Were you using CiderV?

[whole berry]

Bro anyone get a zon update so far ?

Any rejection or anything

[slim agate]

Yes

[cedar zodiac]

Does Mastercard call to reject?

[modest night]

almost no one ever calls to reject

[hasty birch]

It's easy, just do it. Maybe do tagged LC if you want be extra prepared. Don't think there's a set deadline tho

[hollow bluff]

Anyone knows what Autodesk's TC is for swe ?

[thick shell]

Aw nice, thank you very much!

[lapis cove]

tablecloth

[errant gorge]

uiuc represent 😤

[quick wraith]

umich represent

[small mountain]

its what the man said

[floral plank]

No way

I moved on for Palantir after Karat

How

[small mountain]

[native spruce]

anyone do the brex oa? how is it?

[marble bronze]

Time to play the waiting game with amazon application to OA

[hushed ember]

How long to get flexport oa

[floral plank]

Anyone got rippling email?

It says OA coming soon

[latent sun]

anyone done vanta oa?

[low scroll]

i did

[quartz vale]

I heard 200k plus

[static moth]

is rippling oa email auto lmao

[knotty ivy]

Anyone also waiting for roblox after final?

[hasty birch]

No

[low scroll]

how do you know

[nocturne oriole]

I dont mean to discourage u but i know like 4 goats who crushed finals and only 1 got offer LOL

Palantir is soooo tough

[hasty birch]

That rippling OA isn't auto?

[foggy perch]

there's at least one person ik in this chat who recently finished final, forget their username but they have a gecko pfp

[low scroll]

yeah

[foggy perch]

another person got offer

[wind drum]

lmao that rippling email is such a bait

[foggy perch]

I'm doing my roblox final next week lmao

[knotty ivy]

I did my final 8/29 but one interviewer didn't show up so I did the make up last Wed...

[hasty birch]

Everyone would be getting them then, but looks like they resume screen before. Takes a while to get from application to OA, which we're seeing here

[foggy perch]

big rip

think you got the W?

also I'm assuming the lc wasn't too bad

[floral plank]

Yea I heard about it. Honestly still it is good experience.

[foggy perch]

since from what I've been hearing roblox lc questions ain't bad

[knotty ivy]

I think I did fine

[foggy perch]

nice

[floral plank]

Never know it may help for another interview

[knotty ivy]

but you never know lool

[foggy perch]

that's true

roblox's behavioral interviews sound weird

[nocturne oriole]

Good attitude u will make it far

U will be the winner of this recession

[late kestrel]

expedia oa had a lc hard

[foggy perch]

well they have weird names

since Roblox has 4 Interviews I believe

2 are Leetcode

2 have weird names

oh yeah

[knotty ivy]

They said they'll have this creative round but I didn't get it

mine was just two normal bq

[foggy perch]

one of them is called the "Value and creative problem solving" interview

that's the weird one I'm thinking of

other behavioral is just called a normal behavioral interview

[fallen hornet]

bro

[foggy perch]

rip what do you think you messed up on

[fallen hornet]

that email was so stupid

like why does it seem like i was going to be rejected

[foggy perch]

rip

[fallen hornet]

no one reached out for me for rippling

[foggy perch]

idk I'm just curious what roblox dislikes and likes in behavioral answers

[static moth]

yea got it too

[fallen hornet]

also i applied to amazon and keep getting survey emails but no OA emails

did i get screened out pre OA

[wind drum]

same

[foggy perch]

I'm still getting Amazon Interview Scheduling emails even though I already finished Amazon Final lmao

[fallen hornet]

like damn i thought i had okay experienxe

[foggy perch]

Amazon automated emailing is so scuffed

[knotty ivy]

Honestly no idea...

[foggy perch]

rip

guess we'll see

I'm tryharding for that roblox offer so I have more disposable income to make bad purchases

[azure zephyr]

STAR method homie

[fallen hornet]

bro i just want amazon for leverage

[knotty ivy]

I'm counting on roblox offer rn

[blissful sonnet]

rippling doesn't sponsor right?

[lapis cove]

are the parts and terrains on the roblox assessment random

cuz i was watching my roommate do that shit and i swear there was only one possible configuration lmao

[fossil yarrow]

Hey friends!, anyone from the Tampa bay area familiar with how salary is for entry level SWE?

[foggy perch]

I would assume so since I hear wildly different answers

like some people claiming they got like 13 cars in one course

while I passed with like 2-3 cars per course

[brittle marten]

has anyone did EM round for bloomberg

[unique cargo]

Austin

I got offered 119k base, 20k bonus, 40k stock, undisclosed relocation bonus assuming 5-10k for Expedia in Austin

Looking at Amazon salaries online it seems similar

Not sure if they upped their offers for new grads lately though so I don’t trust the numbers I see online 100%

[abstract sandal]

I got an initial offer from Amazon for 187k/yr. Is this good? It seems higher than average. Should I try negotiating?

[lapis cove]

yea idk there was this branch terrain and only 2 diff configurations worked on it, that both needed 2 parts

[abstract sandal]

Seattle location

[foggy perch]

oh

[lapis cove]

so had one free part for each, but of trying every part in that free slot only one worked

[foggy perch]

I think I got that one

but I was so frustrated when I only got like 2

and was spamming possibilities

[unique cargo]

187k total comp?

[normal palm]

you can negotiate amazon??

[unique cargo]

Yea Expedia new grad is non negotiable

Is that common?

[pallid kernel]

when did u interview?

[weak latch]

Lmfao. I applied to Expedia new grad SDE after I got this, already resume rejected

[abstract sandal]

Yeah 187k year 1 & 2, years 3 and 4 about 10k less

I’m new grad

[pallid kernel]

how did u get an offer when portal hasnt changed for anyone in like weeks

[normal palm]

returners don't get that kinda treatment eh

[weak latch]

Expedia logic be like
Me applying with 1 part time internship: OA
Applying with amazon internship: resume reject

[pallid kernel]

none, probably gonna take 2 months now

[normal palm]

industry hires living the good life

[pallid kernel]

amazon recruiters got PIPd

[abstract sandal]

Yeah

[pallid kernel]

probably like 2 people handling all the hiring now kek

[abstract sandal]

I tried to negotiate but recruiter hasn’t replied to me for a few days I’m nervous

[unique cargo]

I got an offer after interning with them, they might be more selective to external hires

[weak latch]

Interesting

[abstract sandal]

I’m scared of offer getting rescinded haha

[weak latch]

Idk it’s just wild how I got resume rejected in a matter of hours

That’s crazy

[pallid kernel]

186k for which location

[normal palm]

from where?

[weak latch]

Expedia

As soon as I got that recruiter spam email for data science I applied to SWE

[normal palm]

I got rejected within 4 days from pinterest i'm like bruh

[weak latch]

And within 5 or so hours resume rejected lol

[normal palm]

rip

[abstract sandal]

Not as good as Amazon. It’s my #1 choice. Negotiating makes me hella anxious

[unique cargo]

Yea the internship there was great and it seemed like a lot of the interns got full time offers

[pallid kernel]

which location is this for @abstract sandal

because 186k is a lot tbh

especially if thats USD

[abstract sandal]

Seattle HQ

[normal palm]

they jealous of your grind

[abstract sandal]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking

[unique cargo]

187k total comp sounds about right for Seattle

[normal palm]

grass is always greener kek

im applying to places but ghosting their OAs lol cuz i suck at LC rn

[abstract sandal]

I already sent the negotiation email 3 days ago. Should I wait for a response at this point or just go ahead and sign the offer letter

[normal palm]

pinterest's reject still stings though

[unique cargo]

The LC grind is dreaded

[abstract sandal]

Yeah

[wicked pendant]

im pretty sure amazon is non negotiable for new grad unless theyve changed stuff

[abstract sandal]

Seattle HQ

How is it odd?

[fickle bridge]

Anyone knows what to expect for "Group Coding Exercise: You will work alongside fellow candidates to demonstrate your coding abilities"

2 hours and a half final coming up

[unique cargo]

@abstract sandal how is the 187k broken down? What’s base and bonus and all that

[abstract sandal]

The numbers are very similar, but slightly shifted

I don’t want to share specifics for obvious reasons

[unique cargo]

Wth

They pay the same for Seattle and Austin

[pallid kernel]

they pay 150k canadian

canadians getting shafted

[normal palm]

fax

[abstract sandal]

I’m not a returning intern. But I’ve graduated already.

Also stocks are much different, I think it’s because of stock split? I got around ~100 shares

[normal palm]

same value though?

[unique cargo]

From what I’ve heard Amazon is very intensive and expect you to climb the ladder very quickly

[pallid kernel]

how are people given shares? through their brokerage account? i dont even have one lol

[abstract sandal]

I’m just trying to figure if 187k is a top band offer for Seattle

[pallid kernel]

that do be a lot of money

i think the average american makes like 60k

[abstract sandal]

Life changing really

[unique cargo]

Fast promo, fast fire

Double edge sword

[unique cargo]

I’d say for Austin that is amazing but I’m not too familiar with Seattle

[jaunty basalt]

I think so, technically no cuz I think the max base is 160 and the people who get those have almost 2 years of experience and take SDE I

[unique cargo]

Pretty sure Netflix offers 190k+ to new grads

But they only recently started hiring new grads

And they’re also located in LA and San Jose

[fickle bridge]

Or even in general - did anyone have experiences with group interviews recently? I had one two years ago, but we solved the challenge in 10 minutes and it was just a math question

[jaunty basalt]

Apparently they’re treated as the same

[unique cargo]

I meant in terms of how good the pay is in comparison to cost of living in the city