2023_grads

[nocturne oriole]

stay swordless

[dusky plover]

yea swe 2023 is not up

too many applicants prolly

meta shill

metamite

[smoky lodge]

GICE ME THE ZUCC

[nocturne oriole]

can you two be respectful for once

this is a public, professional forum

[surreal shuttle]

Just had my amazon OA1

And got asked a completely new question

Nothing about OA1 review

[shrewd ocean]

whend u apply

[formal fable]

Do you mean onsite?

[sinful tendon]

it is

the interviewer literally told me that was his direction

that is incredibly unlikely

it’s called a student verification interview and their sole purpose is to verify you wrote your oa

seems like a risk worth taking

yes

i didn’t

i would’ve regretted preparing

bc I could’ve been doing something I actually enjoy

i generally agree with you but the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of it being oa review

and i am personally fine not preparing and placing that bet

[tardy geode]

this

[neat shore]

I just had a karat interview. They ask unlimited questions but If i fully solve 2 questions I should be fine right ?

Could have solved the second question faster but I made some really stupid coding mistakes and had to spend 10 mins debugging

[leaden aspen]

when I did the karat for palantir, my recruiter specifically mentioned my performance on solving 3 optimal during the karat as a contributor to offer decision, so take that as you will

would consider redoing if you think you def could have done better

[neat shore]

Good to know

[smoky lodge]

Bruh if you’re an a average or above average engineer it’s in your best interest to switch employers every 2-3 years

Preparing for technical interviews will pay massive dividends even beyond the new grad hiring cycle lmao

[neat shore]

Where do I redo the karat. This is for Broadway technology btw

[serene fable]

Any idea when it's a good idea to settle? Maybe after a decade or 15 years?

[foggy perch]

settle once you have enough money to retire ez

[leaden aspen]

after i did the interview i got an email that had a button i could use to schedule a redo

might be a company specific thing if they allow redo though

palantir definitely does, idk about any others

[shrewd ivy]

Greedy algo, never settle

[smoky lodge]

Once you’ve lost the will to live and have kids

[teal jackal]

ive already lost interest in life tbh

[latent sun]

where’s my netflix OA🥺

[teal jackal]

^

[vast rock]

do yall write thank you emails to HR phone screen recruiters?

[latent sun]

i haven’t for the past 3 years

should I?

[smoky lodge]

I take them on dates

[vast rock]

lmao idk

[latent sun]

the recruiters prob have families you home wrecker

[surreal shuttle]

I mean final sorry lol

[smoky lodge]

I’m careful they never find out

[teal jackal]

the more i want an interview

the more painful each successive resume reject is

it seems like im completely unqualified

[leaden aspen]

no interviews usually means resume problem not you problem, have you gotten it reviewed multiple times?

[teal jackal]

ive begged for resume help a lot of times

everyone said its fine

i started applying around 8/26

and only one interview

i started applying 8/26 and 8/31

[smoky lodge]

How many OAs?

[leaden aspen]

reminder that it's usually only the most competitive companies that start this early, and usually only the sweatiest applicants that start this early

[teal jackal]

no non-auto OAs

[leaden aspen]

you are in pools of 25000 applying for 200 spots

[slim marsh]

Idk how resume scan works tbh, i had a shitshow of a resume and google recruiter contacted me but then i get resume rejected by walmart when it’s much better??

[teal jackal]

i feel like i should give up on FAANG and unicorns and just focus on local companies

[smoky lodge]

But are you performing well on them?

[teal jackal]

even with amazon

[smoky lodge]

also dude

I have to point this out

We’re technically early in the job process

[teal jackal]

it seems like people who applied after me are getting interview requests when im still in the dark

[smoky lodge]

I wouldn’t really be bothered unless it was like November/December

[teal jackal]

seems like my apps are just all garbage

it almost feels like im blacklisted from the industry

[smoky lodge]

Bruh massive overreaction

[leaden aspen]

cscareers users when they don't get faang offers by september

[smoky lodge]

You’ve only been applying for like 2 weeks lol

[rustic vessel]

8/26 is nothing, you haven’t waited long enough

[smoky lodge]

When I was applying for internships last year it literally took close to 2 months before my first actual interview

I’ve been luckier this year so far but it’s still early this season

[prime palm]

Does cock db hire new grads?

[teal jackal]

i think its just the anxiety of seeing a lot of people get interviews

this early on

[wheat seal]

So google didn’t bring back their interns?

[wheat seal]

Yes

They had an app last year

Through ripplematch

[smoky lodge]

Cock db???

Huh

[wheat seal]

Cockroach db

[smoky lodge]

oh.

[wheat seal]

Google didn’t bring back interns but released new grad app. That doesn’t make sense right

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me Google is done

[wheat seal]

Everyone is done?

[smoky lodge]

Google is done.

[raven ember]

[leaden aspen]

yeah google should be at headcount for l3, they even said they wanted to reduce their existing workforce https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/07/google-ceo-says-he-hopes-to-make-company-20percent-more-efficient-hints-at-potential-cuts.html

or at least implied it lol

[wheat seal]

Yea makes sense

They hired a bunch last year

[prime palm]

Penis database

[wheat seal]

Maybe even over hired

[leaden aspen]

plus intern return is usually higher priority for entry level than new grads

so if returns are affected there's almost no chance of getting in as a new grad

[wheat seal]

It says in plain writing

Oh so that was only meta then

Well makes sense meta is like down 50%

[leaden aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/202497734375112704/1017122289415880704/unknown.png

snap also

[wheat seal]

Yea snap I don’t really see how it could have presence because there’s TikTok

[teal jackal]

2023 is a shit year confirmed

[wheat seal]

Ru guys going to do masters?

[teal jackal]

im considering it

[wheat seal]

In meantime?

[teal jackal]

the recession is pretty bad

[wheat seal]

It is, only few companies hiring now

[teal jackal]

no room for an applicant like me

[wheat seal]

For experienced ppl it’s not really much to worry about

At least when it comes to switching

Jobs

[shrewd ocean]

u dont have return backup?

[teal jackal]

sadly no

[wheat seal]

Venture firms aren’t the industry average tho

With tech

Oh ok

Mb thought u meant some company lol

Type of company

Oh ok I see

I don’t really see meta tho opening apps again for awhile

Maybe google and def amazon

Netflix is hiring new grads right now though

Probably because it’s cheaper lol

How is a ng gonna know system design

[old smelt]

its probably a very simple question

they won't expect you to go in depth, just have an overall idea of how to design software systems

[wheat seal]

Oh ok I see

[leaden aspen]

+1, my sys design round with palantir was pretty high level and not that hard

[wheat seal]

Do u need TS or confidential for palantir?

[leaden aspen]

No they do security clearance after offer if you are under us government

[frank wedge]

Netflix system design round is on the lines of design a parking system

[wheat seal]

Do u have to do govt work?

Or depends on team

Also palantir was mostly mediums u think?

Or hards?

[leaden aspen]

they have different applications for different branches of work (us government, civil liberty privacy whatever, etc.)

and the only leetcodes for palantir were the karat questions and one during hiring manager, all med or easier

[wheat seal]

that sounds nice

When does palantir stop hiring ng season

That’s for past year ng? Or just this season

[leaden aspen]

this season

[wheat seal]

Oh ok

[leaden aspen]

I finished process early august

[wheat seal]

I graduated earlier this year

Have ng job but not too sure if company will layoff

Like with qualtrics

So always keeping an eye open ig

Check out this job at Palantir Technologies: Software Engineer, Environment Platform

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3214138004

Like this post @leaden aspen

This is for all experience levels

But would u be given a harder interview though?

[leaden aspen]

Yeah this should be for more experienced

They have specific new grad apps

[wheat seal]

Oh ok I see

[leaden aspen]

Palantir does flat leveling so no levels within roles

[wheat seal]

So basically ppl with 1+ year experience

[leaden aspen]

Yeah

[solemn tinsel]

sigh it hurts that Netflix won't send OA when the only thing I have going for me so far this season is good GCA score

[livid yew]

more than 1YOE? sign me up

2020 grad fuck you guys

we had it worse

[prime palm]

Ur all good fam

[livid yew]

bro nobody knew what to do in March 2020

[wheat seal]

Yea nobody was hiring

[normal palm]

I wish i had a good gca 😭

[wheat seal]

I graduated with 2021-2022 season which was probably the best year so far in this past few years since 2020

[normal palm]

Yee

[wheat seal]

2024 grads will probably experience something similar tbh

[prime palm]

2020 and 2022 are just cursed

[wheat seal]

Mass hiring for 2024 grads

[prime palm]

if year[-1] % 2 == 0: return cursed

[wheat seal]

But even then apps will open again soon so should be fine

[dusky plover]

holup

this is the only wave of oas netflix is sending out?

[grizzled bronze]

Doubt it, recruiting is just getting started

[static moth]

seems like theyre resume screening after the codesignal

didnt get phone despite 840+

[grizzled bronze]

They did say:

The results from this assessment will be used as just one additional data point to determine who will be invited to the interview rounds.

[static moth]

ah there u go

banana ofc

honestly idk

ofc!

im jk

idk honestly

[dusky plover]

lmao
wealthfront res rejected me this year for newgrad when they sent me an oa last year + i had a shittier resume too

[static moth]

oh man i havent seen this list in forever

2021 throwback

[low scroll]

mindgeek

where's schlumberger

[dusky plover]

oh shit who tryna buss for mindgeek

[crude saffron]

Drw is below f

[low scroll]

tell me about yourself and why you're interested in working for mindgeek?

[livid yew]

does Spotify pay well?

[crude saffron]

Drw trader return rates

Ficc options were 1/13

[chilly burrow]

Twitter is now S+

Elon is buying it

So it should be S+

[normal palm]

[somber tendon]

anyone know how belvedere trading pays compared to other chi firms? Seems to be significantly less than other firms.

[normal palm]

Was buying it**

[coral relic]

Les goo. First resume reject (Databricks)

[teal jackal]

Data bricks moment

[coral relic]

I looked through some databricks rejects on the server and I'm not entirely sure what they're looking for

[somber tendon]

Doesnt matter. onto the the next. if theres a large pattern of u getting resume rejected, u should prolly take a look into it or else most of this shit is rng not worth thinking about

[latent sun]

no netflix OA but atleast i have 75% off my orders

[fallen fox]

thanks for the code?

[latent sun]

it’s tied to my account lmao

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[coral relic]

Facts

[normal palm]

Big facts

[teal jackal]

Databricks is just notorious for arbitrarily resume rejecting

I think I'm just being hit by a lot of bad rng at once

[coral relic]

I have bananna and a decent ish internship so I'm happy with my resume

I did the best I could

[teal jackal]

Other people with banana are getting good interviews

[somber tendon]

what is banana

[tardy geode]

only thing that is free in amazon

[coral relic]

Amazon

[somber tendon]

o

[tardy geode]

free coffee and banana

ez

[somber tendon]

most places AT LEAST have free coffee lol

id hope

[normal palm]

Not in toronto’s office 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[glossy basin]

anyone knows if Neuralink provides sponsorship or not

[coral relic]

The free coffee is temporary for amazon

Its going away soon

[normal palm]

Fr?

[glossy basin]

That is so bad

it is just some money for coffee

jesus christ

but yea no surprise

[coral relic]

The cafe in my building is free for now just to entice people back into the office

[glossy basin]

they put frugality in the company leadership principle

[normal palm]

Probs not in toronto ‘s office cuz they partner with wework for some floors

[teal jackal]

No way

The Barista made coffee being free was awesome

[coral relic]

And that is exactly why it will be gone

Because events and perks mean nothing to amazon

[normal palm]

I think it depends on the org

Audible’s great at all of the above for instance

And they have free food

[coral relic]

Audible is not a separate org tho

Its a subsidiary

[normal palm]

Ah ok

I wasn’t aware of the difference

[teal jackal]

Yeah

Mainline Amazon has shit perks

The pay IS the perk

Which tbf, can't complain about that

[coral relic]

^^

Pay is a nice perk

But I'm working at a place with nice perks and it does feel better

[teal jackal]

Tbh I'd be lucky to get Amazon tier pay

[glossy basin]

Anyone knows about Audible?

Like do they have PIP too

[rain patio]

bro uber had same pay and more perks than amzn

[shrewd ocean]

y

[teal jackal]

Is hubspot office and culture nice?

[rain patio]

the pay is a perk is huge cope

[shrewd ocean]

hubspot new grad isnt out right

[urban gulch]

How r things going?

[teal jackal]

Yeah I'll think about that when I get past resume screening there

[urban gulch]

Just had my last day today haha @coral relic

[teal jackal]

Amazon hires the most and takes on the most as candidates

[coral relic]

It is nice

[teal jackal]

That's what's important IMO

[coral relic]

Really relazzxed

[teal jackal]

Hubspot cares a lot abt culture

[coral relic]

Good but I'm kinda deflated from how impossible it seems to get a return offer

[teal jackal]

Don't u already have Amazon?

[coral relic]

My team has 4 people in it already...

[urban gulch]

Did they say there aren’t going to be returns?

[coral relic]

No but its a big team so less headcount I'd assume

[coral relic]

Yes but seattle do be kinda far from parents

I would like to spend time with my family

As they grow older

[urban gulch]

Dang HubSpot would be perfect for that ngl

[coral relic]

Yeee

[teal jackal]

Ah, you'd rather work on east coast

Same tbh

Idk tbh I feel like Seattle felt like a half measure as a city

I didn't like Seattle as much as I thought I would

[teal jackal]

Hubspot wlb is supposedly good

[coral relic]

Yes 😢

[teal jackal]

Yeah I get why u really want hubspot

Good company too

[normal palm]

Yeah, i mean a lot of companies pay more than amazon anyway

[teal jackal]

a lot of companies are also harder to get into

with much tougher/RNG resume screens

[fallen fox]

amazon still hiring or nah

[static moth]

@smoky lodge

his recruiter has the answer

[normal palm]

true

[shrewd ocean]

huh

[wheat seal]

Actually it’s here

Software Development Engineer - 2023 (US) - Job ID: 2080728 | Amazon.jobs

https://amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2080728/software-development-engineer-2023-us

[bleak relic]

Is the new grad 2023 posting channel not working?

[primal pike]

thx

do they auto reject kanada

[gilded breach]

Wow Epic Systems.. what a long ass OA

I need a drink after that

[hexed moth]

lmao

i have a 3 hour interview with publicis sapiant friday

i think ill have had a total of 6+ hours of interviewing with them

[night magnet]

bro frrr

so extra

did mine this morning

and they only pay like 120 & they make u move to mf wisconson

I'm only doing it for negotiating power I would never accept an offer w them bc im not tryna move there

[gilded breach]

Yeah and apparently they only bring like 3-4% of the test takers to onsite?!

[night magnet]

bruh

[grand barn]

But doesnt 120 in wisconsin get u far?

[night magnet]

definition of annoying

[night magnet]

yeah ig so but I want to FIRE and 120 (let's say 90k after taxes --> save like 40k) won't get me there

[gilded breach]

It does. Imo madison isn’t so bad, but it’s all relative ofc

[grand barn]

Here in canada 100 after taxes is 70k

[night magnet]

also I'm planning on being overemployed and if I'm in a deserted place like wisonson it locks me out of some opportunities
ex: if im in NY I can work multiple hybrid jobs in NY

[grand barn]

I just wanna die lol

[gilded breach]

Take me with u

[night magnet]

same ngl

fr life is so boring

[grand barn]

Really started to look into that. That subreddit is unhinged lol

[night magnet]

lmao yeah the sub is retarded but i just wanna do it

[grand barn]

Is it really viable tho? Especially as ng or early career

[night magnet]

i mean idk but y not

[gilded breach]

How do u think u did? I hate that they u cant even test the code

[night magnet]

I know I did amazing

because

I found this doc that had all the answers online

[gilded breach]

Lmao WUT

[night magnet]

before I took the test

[gilded breach]

Tf i shouldve googled smh

[night magnet]

yeah so I just speedthru that doc and tried to memorize as much as I could

[grand barn]

Really wanna do it

But i dont even jaywalk

[gilded breach]

All i found were useless forums like codecup

Carrercup*

[night magnet]

wait not these

here's the link

[gilded breach]

Which one

[night magnet]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw7ktL-88iT6NUdVeXBxS2hwVlk?resourcekey=0-rWT0WuSVfcn8BEwjFJ3cgA

this one

[gilded breach]

Bruhhh

[night magnet]

plus I'll just prioritize like 2 of my jobs and then if I get fired from the other ones idc

[gilded breach]

Wtf wish i couldve found this before

[night magnet]

its so goated

they cahnged some numbers but I remembered most of it

idc if I got 100% but pretty close

[grand barn]

U wanna be in ny right? Doesnt that state have lots of taxes tho

I wanna move to a place with less taxes

[night magnet]

source?

[night magnet]

well I wanna be in nova bc that's where all my friends are

I just gave ny as an example

[grand barn]

The fact that the gov takes 30-37% of my taxes drives me nuts

[night magnet]

frr

I just multiply salalry by .63 to get real TC

[grand barn]

Nova? Whats that

[gilded breach]

Saw it on the epicsystems subreddit from some current employee. Not sure how accurate

[hexed moth]

bruh

taxes r important

[night magnet]

northern virginia (dc). Where AWS is based

[hexed moth]

the funds from it may be grossly mismanmanged

but i feel like a ton of us are here because of the public education system lol

[grand barn]

Omggg bro i aint against taxes. But 37% is too much. Take taxes out of the millionaires or billionaires who wont even feel it. Not a poor pleb like me trying to make it

[hexed moth]

if ur getting taxed 37% i dont think ur "poor"

[grand barn]

Thats the standard for canada lol

[hexed moth]

oh

[night magnet]

thats insane

thats the standard holy

price of healthcare

[hexed moth]

in the us 37% is 520k+

[grand barn]

Higher end i should say

[river scroll]

absolutely bombed the doulingo OA Just manage time ya'll when you do it

[grand barn]

The others are 35% 32%

Other provinces

[grand barn]

It shouldnt be honestly. Have fam in europe. They get taxed the same but the services are way better. Dunno wtf they are doing with my taxes

[night magnet]

yeah europe is solid but its so hard to be rich there

wait what u guys get taxes same as EU

[hexed moth]

why do u wanna be rich though

[night magnet]

to not have to work

and be a wage slave

[grand barn]

I dont wanna be poor bro or under the mercy of this fkn economy where u are disposable no matter what u do

[night magnet]

why tf would u wanna be poor regardless

dumb question tbh

money is god in todays society love it or hate it

[hexed moth]

i feel like it's more than poor or rich

id be more than happy if i was somewhere in the middle

[grand barn]

All ppl want is security

[hexed moth]

especially in a place like europe

[night magnet]

how would more money make u less happy

in a vacuum

[grand barn]

U cant have security where u can get fired for no reason

Ur generatuonally rich

U dont have to work

Coz mommy and daddy will bail u out

And ur fams money is tied up in so many investments ur money makes money for u

[hexed moth]

id hate to live in london

[night magnet]

why??

[hexed moth]

too many cars

[weak latch]

Hello cuties

[night magnet]

london seemed awesome when i visited

[night magnet]

cappp

[grand barn]

Assume its full of snobby ppl?

[night magnet]

they have no car zones in london (essentially, bc theres a high toll to bring cars inside a specific zone so no one does it)

where u can just walk and theres no cars at all

[weak latch]

London looks awesome

I really wanna visit

[hexed moth]

id go to paris

[grand barn]

Dont

[hexed moth]

or most of spain

[grand barn]

Its dirty and stabby

[hexed moth]

i used to live in paris

[grand barn]

Then u know

[hexed moth]

id argue london is dirtier

[grand barn]

Never been to london

But paris is so overrated

French ppl are rude. I speak french so i hate the mfs

Yes italy is the best

[hexed moth]

i should have gone to paris

italy*

[grand barn]

But like if ur poc in italy dont even try it lol

Doesnt mean there isnt racism bro

There is a loooot of it there

Blatant too

[night magnet]

100% agree

[grand barn]

No no european racism is another kind

[night magnet]

london sm nicer + cleaner

parisians racist toward muslims

hella

[hexed moth]

lots of spain's coast is nice

[night magnet]

agreed

[hexed moth]

• good climbing

[grand barn]

Parisians racist against any poc black brown asian etc

Are they claiming to be the bastion of western free thinking tho

French the ppl who would lecture u as qe are the country of human rights bla bla and be racist to u in the same sentence

[hexed moth]

you're absolutely right lmfao

[grand barn]

I would totally live in france if french ppl would just be quiet

And not speak to me

[upper socket]

anyone hear back from gm or disney?

[grand barn]

Also their food is overrated there i said it.

[hexed moth]

yeah gm told me to go die in a hole

[grand barn]

Have tried selling them ur firstborn

U might get an oa

[hexed moth]

i did the OA

i just didnt get any further

[upper socket]

they ghosted?

or u get a reject email

[hexed moth]

nah they rejected me after

like 3-4 weeks later

[upper socket]

i just straight up havent heard back

zzz

[hexed moth]

kinda annoying

[normal palm]

[hexed moth]

but its ok amazon loves me

[upper socket]

havent gotten oa from amazon either

[hexed moth]

pain

what does gm ever pay for a new grad

[normal palm]

gm gives contract work like rain in a thunderstorm, but they dont hire?

[upper socket]

85k?

[hexed moth]

damn

if u really want a job

[normal palm]

i think it's 100 starting no?

[hexed moth]

apply to publicis spaient

sapient

[upper socket]

unless they recently upped it. ive heard gm is low af

[hexed moth]

those dudes got back to me in a fucking HOUR

[grand barn]

Have u guys reached a point where u have no hobbies and all u can think about is work and more work? And that doesnt even bother u?

[hexed moth]

dawg that is bad

[teal jackal]

doesnt publicis sapient pay peanuts?

[upper socket]

consulting company?

[hexed moth]

yeah they're tech consulting but they seem pretty desperate

i think they pay 90~100k

[normal palm]

this was several months ago and im not entirely sure either

[grand barn]

Is 90-100k the new 85k or what. Everyone is paying it even bank now

[lapis cove]

by inflation yes lol

[hexed moth]

yeah

[grand barn]

Damn. So whats the measure of a good ng pay. Before it was 100k and up. Now its what 120k and up?

[hexed moth]

man i think 100k is still good

outside of hcol areas

[normal palm]

ye depends on city

[hexed moth]

my friend is a senior software engineer at a small tech company and is making ~140k

[teal jackal]

yeah 90k is the new 80k

imo

[normal palm]

i know ibmers with 20yeo making like 180

lol

(canada)

[grand barn]

We are a joke honestly

[teal jackal]

even in the US, tech boomers cap at around 200k or so

my dad is a tech boomer

[grand barn]

Tec boomers never did lc in their life. Thats what they deserve

[hexed moth]

LOL

[upper socket]

lmaooo

[hexed moth]

honestly though

that's why im chasing the highest offer

[normal palm]

i mean...most tech boomers could care less about their TC

[hexed moth]

because of the pain lc inflicted on me

[teal jackal]

yeah tech boomers dont care cuz they bought houses when they were affordable

[normal palm]

all the ibmers over 20yeo on my team had massive houses and were going on vacation every now and then

yee

[grand barn]

I worked in a bank

And all the higher ups bought houses in a row

And go on vacation togetehr dor years

[normal palm]

lol bruh

damn

[grand barn]

I am like wtf do u actually like each other

For the past 20 years

Thats horrifying

[teal jackal]

yeah tech boomers have fundamentally different values than us

tech boomers just settled down and bought nice houses, and focused on living comfy lives

[hexed moth]

do u guys have a go-to cs youtuber

for concepts u wanna brush up on

[upper socket]

neetcode or a random indian guy

[grand barn]

and now spend their days complaning that the new generation are good for nothing idiots

[hexed moth]

i got into it the other day with an interviewer

about the space and time complexity of a solution

[upper socket]

but have u taken the roblox one

[hexed moth]

that sounds terible

[teal jackal]

tbh my dad realized that everything is expensive now and that the average kid was dealt a bad hand

but to me, he says that all my failures are skill issues

[grand barn]

i feel ya but lol thats so funny

the moment u realise u cant please ur parents and do whats best for u. u will feel relieved trust me lol

[lapis cove]

^^^

[livid yew]

lmao even at age 24 I am already less focused on my TC

but yeah tc is important tbh

[normal palm]

why are you less focused on TC

[livid yew]

I should clarify

I am more focused on TC now than when I graduated in 2020

I was interested in CS for the sake of learning, and not really the paycheck. plus I learned about LC and grinding super late in college lol

but yeah with COVID happening the last 2 years, and still sorta existing, I see why a higher salary is important

TC not so much, I care about base pay, stocks are like a fun bonus to me, I would never make a decision with that factored in

[normal palm]

true true

need those liquid monies

[runic wind]

Well
Pay is nice, COVID or not, lol

[livid yew]

not really

[normal palm]

wdym

[livid yew]

I mean I could go back to my family for money if needed

[livid yew]

but that is half-ass move

[normal palm]

brehhhhh

[livid yew]

huh

[normal palm]

how much money are we talking here

[livid yew]

I am not that low to do something like that lmao

[normal palm]

idk if it's low to do something like that lol

[livid yew]

a whole $5

[normal palm]

they're your family after all

[livid yew]

true true

shit just costs more now because of inflation

because of COVID

if the Chinese government had never cooked up the virus in their labs, then we would not be here with inflation

[livid yew]

I guess I try to have stronger ethics 🤷

and moral

I mean I started doing basic JavaScript work in middle school but it was all volunteer at that point

[normal palm]

i see

[livid yew]

cool pfp btw

@rain patio dont worryweird me

you know its true

[livid yew]

tbh my parents are currently in the process of having a new house built

[teal jackal]

cap lmao

[livid yew]

so their money is kinda wack

[normal palm]

plot twist, house built for you*

[teal jackal]

its really implying any other country in the world could have contained covid effectively, if covid started in their country

[livid yew]

well maybe

I have not thought that far into the future

about 30% of me believes

yes I have mental disability, but this is separate from that

nah dont delete your message

pussy

[teal jackal]

sorry mb

[livid yew]

idc

[livid yew]

what are this emotes?

[teal jackal]

dw i have a mental disability too

[livid yew]

the fuck

[fresh lagoon]

[livid yew]

its so cursed

have a good night

stay safe

[livid yew]

yeah idk tbh, that is far into my parents future

like I only know bits about my status in their will

[teal jackal]

im getting a car when i graduate

my parents just giving it to me

[livid yew]

that happened for me during college

they got new car, and were like well

[livid yew]

what kind of car

[normal palm]

i want to get a jag f-type after i grad but i'm likeeee im gonna be broke for the next few years and i wanna buy some good real estate so....

[teal jackal]

infiniti

[teal jackal]

ah yeah

[livid yew]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-car-drive-thug-life-gif-9933565

[teal jackal]

buying house in canada

gl bro

[normal palm]

or at least a condo above 500 sqft

[livid yew]

tbh I am said to be leaving my LCOL area

[normal palm]

which state?

[livid yew]

750sqft apartment for $1,200/month

[livid yew]

Wisconsin

I am way out here lmao

[teal jackal]

canada is interesting, since canadian neighborhoods dont do single-family detached houses only within the entire neighborhood

[normal palm]

in dt tho?

[livid yew]

?

[normal palm]

downtown

[teal jackal]

north vancouver is really beautiful and really nice but

its evidently crowded

[livid yew]

I mean the city I live in has a population of 70k

so

[teal jackal]

green bay?

[livid yew]

[normal palm]

oh haha

[teal jackal]

thats p nice

[normal palm]

tryna make sense of this sentence

[teal jackal]

like in some american neighborhoods, residents NIMBY the fuck out of any attempt to build apartments in town

[livid yew]

Canada is a interesting place

[normal palm]

well thankfully, apartments kinda suck

lol

[teal jackal]

massachusetts is pretty based tbh
fuck what residents think, 10% of new homes MUST be affordable

[normal palm]

why

[livid yew]

you live in MA?

[teal jackal]

people gotta live somewhere tbh

not everyone affording a house

[livid yew]

I will stay in apartment til im like 28 or so

[normal palm]

i mean i guess it depends on the avg income of that neighbourhood

[teal jackal]

its either people who cant afford a house live in an apartment, or the region as a whole has no space for them

[livid yew]

cause house is too much work

[normal palm]

true

in high density areas it's necessary, but with low density areas houses are fine i think

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree

[teal jackal]

tbh yeah i agree

my dad does so much shit

[normal palm]

what kinda work

[teal jackal]

like some blemish there on the house

something else is leaking

something else is drafty

the heater broke

[normal palm]

ou rip lol

[tardy geode]

MA is nice except the weather

[teal jackal]

its not even as cold as it used to be

the blizzards before 2010 were LEGIT

though in MA there's days where fairbanks alaska is warmer than boston

[livid yew]

nah winter is pog

Winter is my favorite season

[teal jackal]

i like fall

mild cold, bugs are all dead

[tardy geode]

na

[normal palm]

facts

[livid yew]

so much fun stuff in winter

[tardy geode]

summer and spring

[livid yew]

Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years

snow

snowman

[normal palm]

fall is the best season by far

[livid yew]

skiing

sleding

eggnog

this song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAkMkVFwAoo

so much good stuff with winter

holiday music

[teal jackal]

winter do be fun tho

but i feel like fall is the most liveable

[tardy geode]

i hope all the peeps in this chanel get their desired TC

[normal palm]

winter is nice but it's too much work, too many layers, but fun sports gotta give it that, and it's different which is always a plus

[livid yew]

look I grew up in Chicago, so I know my way around winter

[tardy geode]

ahh

chicago has that green water stuff during st patricks day

[livid yew]

and I currently live in Northern Wisconsin

so I am cold blooded

[teal jackal]

spring = alright, but the bugs are starting to come out
summer = holy fucking shit BUGS
fall = mildly chilly, bugs are gone
winter = snow is cool at first, but snow is nasty after exactly one day and its mad cold

[livid yew]

I mean its currently 52F outside

[tardy geode]

Minneapolis has the harshest cold climate right?

[livid yew]

getting cooler

[livid yew]

its tough up here

yeah

blizzard driving is no easy task

[tardy geode]

damn

[livid yew]

requires every once of your brain tbh

like

[teal jackal]

midwest life eh

[livid yew]

yes its mid

[tardy geode]

Arkansawww

[livid yew]

but this was the card I was dealt

for now

[teal jackal]

boston isnt even that cold on avg anymore

apparently boston is on the brink of becoming a "humid subtropical" climate

we used to be humid continental solidly

[livid yew]

what is cold to you? I am curious

like when do you feel cold

[teal jackal]

like 25F

[livid yew]

at what temp

ok

fair

I would say 14F

lmao

I will be wearing shorts until about 28F

[teal jackal]

does it drop to negative fahrenehit for u often

[tardy geode]

how do people go for a run in snow that too with just a tshirt and shorts on

[livid yew]

with or without wind chill?

but yes both

[teal jackal]

at night in massachusetts, sometimes itll be like -10F in winter sometimes

like 2am outside, -10F

crazy

[livid yew]

the cool air when sleeping

window open

very nice

so fresh

and in my experience more drinking happens in winter around holidays

so I am naturally feeling warm from the booze lmao

even though alcohol actually lowers your body temp

its a big brain trick

[teal jackal]

damn

[livid yew]

you gotta try it once

pretty fun

[rain patio]

wow

got taken down

it was up in the morning

I was on bus, planned to apply tonight

its down

😭

[tardy geode]

one thing i learned while applying ng roles , DO NOT WAIT.

[rain patio]

Ya Allah, learnt it the hard way

Allah have mercy on us

[main condor]

wallah same brro

[rain patio]

[normal palm]

[frank wedge]

Lmao how did we open apps on Friday

[night magnet]

You can just auto sell RSUs as soon as allowed

[livid yew]

I know iknow

which is sometime next year

[whole berry]

Wdym

New apps unlocked ?

[dusty frost]

depends how early u got the offer but, u can sometimes force their hand

by saying u have other offers placing u in nyc

can they look into it to move

[simple elk]

Ik lots of return interns to ft request nyc

lots of them are months without hearing back about second offer

or like a month not months lol

[dusty frost]

wym second offer? like with a diff team?

hmmm 🧐 this year is weird but honestly make the request early see what they can do

[simple elk]

More of my point is lots of return interns are requesting NYC and not hearing back about it in a timely manner

Suggests more demand than capacity

[dusty basin]

Afaik they don’t really care

[dusty frost]

oh, interesting. guess just ask

[dusty basin]

Yeah. I mean, worst u get is a no so +1 on that

[frank wedge]

#grad_postings_old message

But we’re only backfilling high priority, so I’m wondering what this is

[pastel bane]

is answering every question in an interview an accomplishment? or am I just supposed to answer every question?

[hexed moth]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[pastel bane]

thank you.

is there a discord server where I can ask simple CS questions?

[fickle bridge]

Tf is this OA I have an O(n) solution and it's still TLE (def not a binary search type question)

[sonic coral]

As someone who went through the return intern location transfer process this is less due to demand and more just completely black box amazon hr

People who requested other locations also had to wait a long time

Or a short time

It was completely random

Mine went through in like 2-3 weeks iirc

But yeah it’s like as a return intern you have the option of declining your original offer, waiting a few days for a location survey, filling out your top 3 locations and praying lol

Oh lmao mine was way quicker actually, 4 days

[simple elk]

You don't have to decline anymore

So a ton of people requested

Especially for NYC

[sonic coral]

Oh wtf yeah that would def make the amount of location transfers explode

[simple elk]

Yeah, its probably part of a plan to reduce renegs lol

[sonic coral]

Yeah a lot of kids intern in Seattle and don’t like it and then transfer lmao

Myself included lol

[simple elk]

^

I interned Denver, loved Denver adn don't have to fuck with any of it 🙂

[sonic coral]

You from Denver?

[simple elk]

No from southeast

Just a weeb for the west coast

Specifically Colorado

I was born there tho

[sonic coral]

Ah lol, yeah I’ve got some relatives in Denver it seems like a chill mountain town

[simple elk]

My moms parents live in the mountains there too which is hype

[sonic coral]

It’s like completely surrounded by mountains isn’t it

[simple elk]

Mountains to the west plains to the east

SLC in Utah is completely surrounded I think

SLC is nice too but mormons and because of the mountains all of the pollution is trapped in the city

poor air quality

[sonic coral]

Lmao

[simple elk]

Also Stripe and Plaid are only offices i think

[sonic coral]

Goldman too apparently

[simple elk]

Not super interested in banks tho

[sonic coral]

Sounds like the best thing for you is a fully remote gig in Denver lol

[simple elk]

Yeah, I'm still doing apps to see if I find something more exciting than going back to Zon in Denver because my team is chill but not super interesting. If not I'll go ski for 1.5 - 2 years then probably move to a bigger city and switch jobs as SDE2

[sonic coral]

To me a jobs a job man so live life if your team is chill then hop elsewhere lol

Are you sure your team is chill for FT tho, like have you talked to the FT people to see what it’s like

Because my zon team was unbelievably chill for intern but my mentor was swamped with oncall

So I could tell it would be kinda hellish for ft because of all the legacy shit

It was mad chill people but the tech was horrible which led to really bad oncall

[pearl rose]

cap1 offer not bad

127k in mclean va is solid

[shrewd ocean]

its alr

[sonic coral]

Is that base

[shrewd ocean]

its pretty close to DC

[pearl rose]

yea

i live 20 mins from mclean

[shrewd ocean]

whats tc

[pearl rose]

but my parents would make me live with them

so not doing it 😭

[simple elk]

We got slack notifications for CRs over the whole summer there were probably 1 or 2 done after 5 pm or on a weekend, I don't think people had to use pto to call out sick and stuff like that

[pearl rose]

12k signing bonus 3-6k yearly bonus

[sonic coral]

Ok yeah that’s a good sign

And your mentor overall seemed ok

[simple elk]

Yeah he and I were bros I have his number

[sonic coral]

Like my mentor I asked him something once, he got back to me at 7pm saying “sorry was really swamped with oncall today”

[sonic coral]

I was bros with my mentor too, I could tell dude was struggling tho

[simple elk]

RIP

Yeah by chill i didn't just mean it was chill for me, from what I could see all the FT engineers had real good balance too

[clever orbit]

how common are dp q's?

[sonic coral]

Yeah that def exists at zon, my buddy got a return offer recently and his team was quite chill

[small mountain]

pretty common

[clever orbit]

fk

[surreal shuttle]

I was asked dp in amazon 1x30 😩

[clever orbit]

what q was it

[surreal shuttle]

Also why is everyone copying my username 😩

[autumn ridge]

I'm still not great at DP questions but if you have a decent grasp on backtracking you can get pretty far by just understanding what the repeated state of the function call is and implementing a top down solution

[lapis cove]

anyone know what san mateo is like

[surreal shuttle]

Jump game

[clever orbit]

I found neetcodes solution to houserobber weird

[surreal shuttle]

Just go to LC discuss

[lapis cove]

isnt jump game greedy not dp

[forest crystal]

does any body know why i still receive the miss information notfication email from amazon after I have already finsihed my interview?

[static moth]

wait multiple ppl who did 1x30 got a new problem?

woah

super unlucky

woahhhh i think i dodged a bullet then

i did mine on wednesday and just got regular oa1 review

yeah maybe its that

[shrewd ocean]

bruh why hasnt zon sent me an OA yet

[static moth]

my interviewer was a 5 YOE amazon dude

so probably knew that 1x30 was like that

nah what u said makes sense tho

could be interviewer rng. or maybe i just extremely lucky

who knows

i did on wednesday. so hopefully monday is portal change

[smoky lodge]

are there any consequences to rescheduling a bloomberg phone interview?

guess ill withdraw my app

ok im not gonna be a bitch and reschedule

the phone is just one LC med + behaviorals right?

[small mountain]

1 knapsack hard

[wary folio]

When did you apply

[rustic vessel]

Wait just 1 lc med? They changed it?

I remember last year getting asked 3 questions and bombing

[smoky lodge]

ok how late do they give offers

as far as i can tell is that the only downside to rescheduling my phone a few days later would be im at greater risk of them filling out their headcount

[tardy geode]

praying for amazon oa day 2

[lilac siren]

nearly all the amazon interviews became more difficult this week

[shrewd ocean]

when u apply

[tardy geode]

yesterday

😢

[shrewd ocean]

lol

thats gnna b a long wait

[lilac siren]

...

[shrewd ocean]

if theyre not full by then

[cedar gulch]

I had part of my final the other day and the interviewer said there’s a ton of ppl in the pipeline rn so it might take them longer to get back to people for Bloomberg

[smoky lodge]

i applied on August 27 and I haven't heard back

[tardy geode]

honestly its rng

[late kestrel]

you probably wouldnt be able to resched for like a month out

if not more

[tardy geode]

my friend applied on aug 3 , he got an OA within 2 weeks

[smoky lodge]

I have it thursday this week but Im thinking of pushing it back to the following Tuesday just because I could use that weekend to grind out and review bloomberg tagged LC questions

[late kestrel]

i doubt theyd have that available

but idk ig

[smoky lodge]

they do which is why im asking

[late kestrel]

o damn im surprised

then i dont see why not if you rly wanna be prepared

[tardy geode]

intern positions get full by march thats for sure

[smoky lodge]

if i get an email on like friday saying they're done with phone interviews i am going to murder you

[late kestrel]

after all youve trolled about that, youd deserve it

[smoky lodge]

[tardy geode]

i feel i am too late to apply for amazon ng

[late kestrel]

but i dont think companies usually do that, they just let everyone in the process go thru and close new apps

[smoky lodge]

ye

[tardy geode]

you saying to me?

[smoky lodge]

also am i over-confident if im like 90% i can get amazon as long as they send me an OA

[late kestrel]

no this @tardy geode

[shrewd ocean]

yes

[late kestrel]

me applying on 7/29 and no OA :/

hopefully i passed BB phone thatd be ideal 🙂

[smoky lodge]

like i didn't get the internship offer last year but if the new grad process is similar then I should be fine cuz I've leveled up dramatically

[shrewd ocean]

what q u get

[tardy geode]

do referrals matter for zoom?

[late kestrel]

two parter, one easy and the 2nd was top k freq words

@shrewd ocean

[smoky lodge]

bro Zoom is a dead company

[tardy geode]

dude i just need a job , i can't be choosy here

having an offer in hand is better than none

[smoky lodge]

sure, but if you work at Zoom you're not gonna have that job for long

[shrewd ocean]

lol ez pz

[late kestrel]

dumb take. they got a shit ton of gov contracts

[tardy geode]

i will work my way out , pretty confidant about that

[smoky lodge]

imagine getting paid in stock by zoom

fat L

[shrewd ocean]

nows a good time to join then no?

buy low sell high

[smoky lodge]

the only reason they popped off in the first place is because of COVID and at home working, so there's 0 reason to think it will rebound

like there's no way demand for their service will return to what it was

[late kestrel]

hopefully. i was a little slow and the input/output examples were awful so i had to ask a lot of clarifying qs

[tardy geode]

back to LC , see ya fellas .

[shrewd ocean]

did u do the tag qs

[late kestrel]

yeah i tried to do top 20 lc tagged and as many as i could of bot tagged cuz theyre a little diff

pretty sure top k words freq is a tagged q

interviewer was cool tho, american from the SF office working in the london office for a year

[sonic coral]

I mean prior to Covid it was a medium size corporate video conferencing firm

So they’ll still exist

Just not at their current scale

[young peak]

I used my HRT final lmfao

iirc I didn't have my cit offer during my bb nego

but yeah 350k for cit, 300k for bb

[smoky lodge]

Which means their stock will not rebound

[sonic coral]

Yeah but that doesn’t mean they’re gonna immediately lay everyone off

They’ve got a good base in any case

[smoky lodge]

This is such cope lmfaooo

[sonic coral]

My guys literally employed lmao

[small mountain]

if an established company cannot ride a wave of a correction on the stock market without laying off their workforce they'd never expend beyond a startup lol

[tall solar]

the stock going down is a sign of layoffs

only because of mass hiring during covid

they hired due to massive stock growth

yeah u def need to look at more

big one is cash

nah apply

thought this was based off choosin offers

[vast viper]

I will be graduating in Dec'22. Can i apply to '23 roles?

[foggy perch]

You got 300k at bloomberg what?

Was this for a senior role

[autumn ridge]

Stock going down doesn’t by default mean their will be layoffs but if a company expanded aggressively due to huge growth bc Covid and they aren’t growing anymore it’s definitely something to be concerned about.

[lapis cove]

anyone know what san mateo is like?

[foggy perch]

i've heard it's quiet and safe but somewhat boring

[livid yew]

I still cant wrap my head around the expanding because of COVID

[foggy perch]

that's just from googling though

[livid yew]

like the companies knew it was a temp event right?

like

bro

[lapis cove]

eh

still better to expand and contract

[livid yew]

I guess

[lapis cove]

then to not expand at all

and let someone else take market share

[livid yew]

idk they way I see it, the expansion seems stupid lol

[foggy perch]

just companies yoloing to get as much profit as they can during covid because they have no idea when it ends

[livid yew]

Like long-term

[foggy perch]

more immediate profit is what the shareholders want

shareholders dc about long-term

just get stock profit and sell

[livid yew]

but I guess many people only care about short-term gains

[autumn ridge]

idk my only exposure is from Snap and it didn't seem like they did. I think it's hard for companies though bc a lot of times the value of the stock isn't just about current profitability it's the potential upside in the future so I could see it being easy to convince yourself that the changes from covid were permanent

[foggy perch]

true

I've heard it's closer to 45 minutes though

so probs not ideal if you want to go to sf and get super drunk

[lapis cove]

sounds not horrible if ur not single

[rustic vessel]

San mateo is more suburban imo

SF is what you’d expect from a big city

[lapis cove]

yea ik ive lived in SF

[rustic vessel]

Was in sf in the summer, in san mateo now

The only thing is san mateo weather is scuffed when you got no ac

[primal pike]

[livid yew]

you work at Snapchat? that is poggers

[foggy perch]

Just have an ac then smh

[frigid ember]

dude lied and is surprised he got fired

[foggy perch]

What else is a swe salary for

[livid yew]

[livid yew]

people on blind seem to have 0 game sense

skill issue

[foggy perch]

who goes to cali and thinks it's livable without ac

[weak latch]

damn you get auto rejected if ur from those countries?

rip

[foggy perch]

rip

[livid yew]

Damn A/C on today would be crazy for me

currently 57F outside

[foggy perch]

rip

[livid yew]

nah

this is comfy weather

[foggy perch]

thought you were in boston

[livid yew]

[foggy perch]

rip