2023_grads

[surreal shuttle]

any update on your amzn?

[formal fable]

Nada...

[surreal shuttle]

i have amzn interview in 5 hours

[formal fable]

Have tea/coffee and watch some fun videos on YouTube.

[rain patio]

theyre not doing new grad

[marble bronze]

I got phone with 2 no-name internships, sent 813 codesignal

[normal palm]

Literally nothing lol

[late kernel]

Someone from Apple reached out to me for my position before I applied. but I know interns that cold emailed, I wouldn't send your resume until they ask

[knotty talon]

This economy got me sad

[simple elk]

You didn't have to take any CS your senior year?

[dusky plover]

@cedar nebula how long did u grind lc

to be done

sheesh

[simple elk]

Like your gen eds? not even cs electives?

Ah thats what i meant by gen eds

Some silly english class, rocks for jocks, etc

lol

freelo

Just enjoy it then man

Do other apps if you want but you don't need to grind or stress out

Thats what I'm doing its real nice

It can still suck to get rejected but since it doesn't matter because i already got something its fine

[dusky plover]

so banana

what offer did u accept

[knotty talon]

How can I contribute to new grad salary sharing?

[simple elk]

True, I'm returning to a team at Zon, so I know mine is fine but it could be stressful if you dont know

[old smelt]

Growth isn't great at G

[simple elk]

You can also insta transfer if your team sucks tho keep that in mind

Manager doesn't have to approve transfer as long as you're not on pip when you initiate

[trim jacinth]

you're not going to get pip'd instantly lol

just do the 1 year grind into lvl 2 somewhere else

[pastel bane]

is there a place I can see people get which offer? there is a website called gradcafe where I can see graduate school offers.

[knotty talon]

?

[proud sapphire]

Guys any of you applied to Google? Will it be possible to share the link to the application...

[lilac siren]

it already closed

[night marsh]

Lol hi again

[lilac siren]

link for swe roles in Canada https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/77922753140662982-software-developer-early-career-campus/

and apm in the US https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/123906194302476998-associate-product-manager-university-graduate-2023/?category=DATA_CENTER_OPERATIONS&category=DEVELOPER_RELATIONS&category=HARDWARE_ENGINEERING&category=INFORMATION_TECHNOLOGY&category=MANUFACTURING_SUPPLY_CHAIN&category=NETWORK_ENGINEERING&category=PRODUCT_MANAGEMENT&category=PROGRAM_MANAGEMENT&category=SOFTWARE_ENGINEERING&category=TECHNICAL_INFRASTRUCTURE_ENGINEERING&category=TECHNICAL_SOLUTIONS&category=TECHNICAL_WRITING&category=USER_EXPERIENCE&employment_type=FULL_TIME&employment_type=PART_TIME&employment_type=TEMPORARY&jex=ENTRY_LEVEL&location=United States

[old smelt]

You can do it in the csmajors server

[native flare]

is the netflix codesignal automatic

[floral plank]

no

[trim jacinth]

bloomberg phone interviewer never called

[gilded vortex]

bruh moment

[weak latch]

bruh atlassian SWE new grad isn't on there anymore

it was there last night

[whole berry]

they received too many apps

its over LOL

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me Atlassian is done.

[dusky lance]

is google us just not hiring??

[latent sun]

they are

just got final round

[lilac siren]

idk

[dusty frost]

they are

[serene fable]

Did anyone get rejected after a 1x30 at Amazon? It's been over a week without a response

[lilac siren]

maybe they will open their swe roles in the US again

[dusty frost]

they just tend to release second wave ng in sept 15th to 30th, i heard is 19th for upcoming g job

[latent sun]

your gf is a google recruiter

aah

lolol

[whole berry]

bro u let ur gf have a recruiter? cuck

smh a man letting another man guide they gf

[latent sun]

i myself too have a gf (good friend) with a google recruiter

gluck mf

[latent sun]

anyways yessir they still hiring

[forest hatch]

Canada?

[prime palm]

Are companies still opening

When is the peak for ng recruiting

So dry lately

Nothings open

[latent sun]

i’ll bet you 10 pesos (.50 USD) recruiting will be fired up by late Oct/early nov

bc budgeting will be done by then for many companies

[prime palm]

Will I get job

[latent sun]

i’ll bet you 20 pesos (1 USD) that you will get a job by then

[whole berry]

join me at mcdonalds

submitting my app depending on how i do on my zon ng final

[vast mica]

Hey, can the people who gave Bloomberg interview tell me how many tagged questions are enough, like top 50 ?

[nocturne oriole]

LMAOOO

[serene fable]

No, Seattle, US

[prime palm]

Yessss baby

[latent sun]

actually mf i’ll bet 50% of my sign on bonus (which doesn’t exist bc meta) you’re gonna get an offer

bc you’re nedflanders twin

[nocturne oriole]

@raw wing

i was not the first apaprently

but i used to say it a lot

[prime palm]

Bet

?? Source

[late kestrel]

top 25 + the bot ones are good enough

[prime palm]

Is Bloomberg actually full wth

[late kestrel]

no

[prime palm]

So what's that silly guy Bonjour saying?

[maiden coyote]

People sometimes just troll here. Don't take it too seriously

[prime palm]

Alright. I'll be in high alert for trolls

[eager aurora]

I'm going to be graduating in Dec 2023, with my only two internships being upcoming in Fall 2022 and Summer 2023. How would you guys recommend I navigate the new grad process if I decide not to go to grad school, and instead want to get a full time job after Dec 2023? Aren't most-all new grad roles designed for people graduating in May or june?

Do I have to wait a few months after graduating?

[dusty frost]

u tell them

u want the return offer lol

oh also the ft roles, if u wanna do 2023 sept, will still be for anyone grad in dec 2023, or sept 2024. 1 -2 semester left till graduation

[small mountain]

are you a quant

[prime palm]

Did you start ft yet

[dusty frost]

yeh im ft

[prime palm]

Get me in baby

[small mountain]

bet

[dusty frost]

gotchu 👀

[prime palm]

NYC?

[dusty frost]

yup in nyc

[prime palm]

Can I crash at your cribby

[dusty frost]

xD

im backkk

[austere mesa]

got resume rejected by datadog lol
amazon on resume dont mean shit these days

[dusty frost]

lol nice to see everyone around - been dying at work

[prime palm]

When did you apply?

[austere mesa]

last week

[latent sun]

ayooo pls let me in too 😼

[prime palm]

"Why do you want to work at datadog" is important

Did u write something good for that

[dusty frost]

yo btw how did it go

did u end up doing it?

[austere mesa]

oh i dont remember what i wrote

[dusty frost]

are u waiting rn on rolling?

nah haha, i just passed him some stuff on recruiting / recruiter

aw rip, are u still hunting this year

hmu i got a list

if u aren't hunting nvm haha

yeh,

google hhh. yeah.. canada is rough

hm.

if it was US could help out 😦 rip

[latent sun]

nah bro i had a few big names and still got resume rejected it’s not just amazon

[dusty frost]

feel free hmu if u ever need anything, maybe can ask around for you to the ppl ik if they got contacts.

gl gl

hiring this year is rough again

😦 reminds me 2021

lol rlly was

hot year for hiring

[austere mesa]

do u guys actually write cover letters

[gilded vortex]

no lmao

waste of time

[austere mesa]

ive always left it blank

[prime palm]

dm me it pls? 🥺

[quartz vale]

@dusty frost heyyyyyyyyy

How we doing

It feels like last summer all over again

[grizzled bronze]

Never, only in the very few places that require it

[quartz vale]

🥺

[dusty frost]

yo really feels like it, how u been lol

[austere mesa]

hrt

gonna get resume rejected anyways

[quartz vale]

Feeling good

Time flys jezzzzz

[late kestrel]

morningstar 😡

[dusty frost]

i forgot were u intern or ft last year.. haha

[quartz vale]

Last year I was looking for intern, I graduate next year

I quit

Maxed out my credits no space for 321🥺

Rip

[dusty frost]

i forget what did u end up doing for ur internship

was it nuro or meta?

lol

[quartz vale]

Nuro

It was amazing

How was meta internship

[grizzled bronze]

Do you know when they're listing new grad roles?

[dusty frost]

haha not internship, last year was the ft for google/meta, took meta, and been great. pretty fun, working on vr/ar.

[quartz vale]

Roughly October but might not open at all…

[quartz vale]

Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[latent sun]

what a goat

[pearl rose]

cap1 just gave me a full time offer without power day 😭

[latent sun]

wait lmao i was in nyc too which floor?

[gilded vortex]

!!

[pearl rose]

its cause i did power day last year and got offer

but didnt take it

[gilded vortex]

ahh

[dusty frost]

yeh gotchu

[prime palm]

new grad this year is rough

not a lot of companies hiring

[quartz vale]

Fr, also return new grad offer is pretty hard to get for some companies

[weak latch]

W

[weak latch]

LMFAOOO

[gilded vortex]

yeah def tougher this year

[weak latch]

ohh that makes sense lmao

that's funny asf tho

[grizzled bronze]

That's nice, most companies have you re-interview! Are you gonna accept?

[lapis cove]

hypothetical scale ai vs roblox?

[weak latch]

is there some kind of confirmation for power day?

[pearl rose]

prob not i got salesforce return so most likely going there

[weak latch]

I got the email asking me my preferred dates and stuff....i sent that a while ago but haven't heard anything

lob that cap1 offer

[surreal shuttle]

roblox

[grizzled bronze]

Salesforce return is def better, significantly more pay

[pearl rose]

yea

i live 20 mins from cap1 hq

[dense seal]

didn’t swe canada just drop today? how is it due sep 9

[rain patio]

To get past the resume screen do you spam all keywords in your resume?

[grizzled bronze]

Target your resume to the role you're applying to

[rain patio]

So include general SWE keywords and also tailor to job description

And do you use word or overleaf latex

[grizzled bronze]

eah

*yeah

[hollow fable]

ong?

i might try to do that for next year 👀

[pearl rose]

ye

highly unlikely if im being honest its probably gonna be the spots that are empty that interns dont fill up

our deadline to accept is october 28 so maybe they post new grad application then?

[prime palm]

salesforce intern?

[pearl rose]

yea

[fringe pasture]

JOE

HOW DID NURO GO

[grizzled bronze]

When are decisions on return offers going out to Meta interns again? I heard only a few top performing interns have gotten return offers

[eager aurora]

so i can apply for the same roles for ng that people graduating at the end of this schoolyear, in ~june 2023, are?

and just start a bit later

[fringe pasture]

yoooo

[dusty frost]

sept ng 2022, is applicable to dec 2022/~may 2023
sept ng 2023 is applicable to dec 2023 / ~may 2024

[dusty frost]

so yes if i am undersstanding it correctly

[eager aurora]

how can you apply for ng roles starting in september 2023 if youre graduating after that, in dec 2023/may2024

or are u saying september 2023 as in the time to start applying

[west egret]

Salesforce has a new grad position up now called Associate Technical Consultant/Developer

Idk if that’s the regular SWE position though.

[pearl rose]

regular swe is associate member of technical staff

[west egret]

^

Yeah that’s what I saw on levels

So I’m assuming that consultant/developer one isn’t the same

[quartz vale]

It was niceeeee

Got a return I think I’m taking it

[dusty frost]

sorry sept is the time to apply

I always think about the timelines as how many septembers do u have lol, when i advise friends and stuff

if u have == 1 sept left ur ng, or if ur <1 year from graduating ur ng

if ur > 1 sept ur internship

b/c sept is when things usually are coming out haha

[lapis cove]

yea if u grad in dec 2023 u shld apply for internships

rnb

[maiden fable]

Is anyone doing jpm code for good in nyc ?

[eager aurora]

ok i see

so maybe start applying for ng during my summmer internship, so i have 2 internships on my resume

its a bit late but better than nothing

[hollow fable]

so its safe to reject c1 right now and save for new grad?

[lapis cove]

yes

for reference im graduating december 2022

and applying rn and its completely fine

[night magnet]

Really?

[dusty frost]

yea u can do that, tho i think june / july tends to be bit early. i think better to just apply in late august / sept, closer to the end if not after the end ur summer internship

[night magnet]

I’m thinking of applying for 12/2023 ng jobs bc my last semester is super chill

[eager aurora]

so you might be able to graduate in december and not have to wait much at all to start your role, is that right

[maiden fable]

guys do companies pick their codesignal questions or its random based on what codesignal gives you?

[dusty frost]

i think first two is the same, last two can change is what ive observed in the past

so i think is like a company bank maybe

[gilded vortex]

yeah they can choose what bank it comes from

[eager aurora]

i want to mke sure im understanding you correctly, the timeline could look like: Its september 2023, i just finished my summer internship. I apply to ng roles. Once I graduate in december 2023, i could have a ng job lined up for like January 2024, a month later?

[zenith moss]

https://zoom.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Zoom/job/XMLNAME-2023-Software-Development-Engineer---New-Grad_R10542-1

[dusty frost]

1. Your internship happens in summer of 2023.
2. You apply to ng jobs late august / prob sept 2023.
3. You get an offer sometime between Oct to March (just depends how deadass slow companies are) but ull prob get it from Oct to Dec of 2023
4. 1.5 to 2 months from getting the offer, usually they can give u a start date (just due to logistic / bg check etc)

[eager aurora]

Ok awesome i see now

so in general, if the job search is successful, i would probably be able to start within a few months after graduation

[thorny pier]

how long does it take after capital one final for them to get back to you

[dusty frost]

yup

[ashen musk]

my bloomberg phone interviewer hasn't showed up for the second time

[dusty frost]

Wow. YIKES

[late kestrel]

are you sure its not your phone lol

[dusty frost]

even after sitting on the text editor they just dont show up>

yikes

[ashen musk]

no, last time the recruiter said the interviewer had an emergency but system didn't work to assign a new one

[small mountain]

what do you do if in a behavioural you're asked about a situation that's never happened? "tell me about a time you had a disagreement with a manager"

[late kestrel]

oh gotcha. damn thats super unlucky

[lapis cove]

just say, i havent really ran into that but heres how i would handle it

or if u think u can bullshit convincingly in a way that makes u look good try that

[small mountain]

this is good

[autumn ridge]

bloomberg emailed me today that my interview for today was canceled but my interview is not until Monday

Then I followed the reschedule link and it says no slots available

[quick wraith]

soft reject

[dusty frost]

rip prob contact the recruiter directly

[ancient holly]

why did some ppl get google reach out before application open

[quick wraith]

former google interns

[dusty frost]

for august apps maybe? or if they did the fall process -> and getting moved over

[ancient holly]

is it bc they were in team match last year?

[runic wind]

Nah, that's not sufficient

[quick wraith]

applied in August heard nothing back

is it over?

[dusty frost]

what do u mean reach out?

[dusty frost]

nah.

[ancient holly]

everyone has strong experience

[foggy perch]

you already finish interview?

[ancient holly]

same same

the pain

[dusty frost]

last year i applied in august and i started the process i think late sept / early oct

so no worries 😛, it just slow af

lol

[runic wind]

Same

But this time they are probably gonna hire way less

[quick wraith]

I believe

[autumn ridge]

Yeah I just did. I didn't even apply directly though the recruiter reached out to me on linkedin and moved me straight to phone interview so it's weird if it's really a soft reject lol

[ancient holly]

everywhere is hiring way less

[lapis cove]

yea i had it last monday

[foggy perch]

nice

think you aced it?

[lapis cove]

ehh first technical i cldve done a bit better but thought it was pretty decent

and second techical and behaviorals went very well

[foggy perch]

were the technicals all leetcode, but worded in roblox scenarios

[lapis cove]

yea

[foggy perch]

nice

were they questions on Leetcode?

or unique

o

was it a LC hard

[lapis cove]

one was unique

nah

[foggy perch]

oh thank god

if there's a lc hard in roblox i'm donezo

[ancient holly]

roblox oa killed me

[quick wraith]

roblox oa automatic?

[foggy perch]

yes

i'm hoping Roblox OA was the hardest part of the process and Interview is ez

[runic wind]

Am I the only one who didn't get the Roblox OA lmao

[foggy perch]

yes

[ancient holly]

4 hrs of my life and part of my soul gone

[runic wind]

But my grad timeline is correct

[quick wraith]

for an OA?

[foggy perch]

also if it is browser

that question is so free

I hope i get that

[ancient holly]

they also auto reject if you are not graduating from a us school

[lapis cove]

they shld just put batches of ppl in a roblox obstacle course

and then person who gets first gets offer

[foggy perch]

this but irl squid game

whoever fails gets sent straight to amazon

[lapis cove]

lmao

[azure zephyr]

has anyone taken the seatgeek codility oa?

[foggy perch]

same

my original date was late october/november but I emailed

and they moved it to late september

[tacit grove]

When you apply to Microsoft does your application also get put down in the inactive section as well?

[runic wind]

I am

[lapis cove]

i like to pretend that every company i get non automatic response from is an offer

so thoughts on roblox vs duolingo vs scale ai

[chilly burrow]

I'd say Roblox over Scale

[lapis cove]

i have offers from none but hypothetically

[chilly burrow]

Esp in dis economy

[latent sun]

Thought this was a zoomlink for a conference call or group call lmaooo

[foggy perch]

scale prob has more money potential tho

if you are down to take the risk

[chilly burrow]

True

It depends on the person

I think Duolingo comp is much lower than the others.

[lapis cove]

duolingo pays like 180k+ in pittsburgh

[chilly burrow]

Oh damn fr

I swear it was around 140k

[lapis cove]

disposable income after rent taxes and expenses is like the same as 250k in SF

[glossy basin]

that means buy a house in 2 years if live in pittsburg

[chilly burrow]

Damn then Duolingo may b a motive

[glossy basin]

I think even more

300K in SF

[lapis cove]

nah, maybe if ur considering house prices

[glossy basin]

tax is high as fuck especially santa clara county

[quick wraith]

for the roblox app do you have the type the same info three times?

[lapis cove]

but i just did calculation of after tax - average rent of 1br - projected other expenses

[glossy basin]

hey is anyone done interviewing VO with Pure Storage?

[foggy perch]

wym

[quick wraith]

https://jobs.roblox.com/careers?pid=137451388296&domain=roblox.com&recommended=1#apply

[lapis cove]

yea but there are offers above that in pittsburgh with 0 yoe

[glossy basin]

me 2. I will live in Pittsburg happily

maybe buy a mansion in Pitssburg

but Duolingo never replied to my application

I applied in day 1

[lapis cove]

true cld be phd cld be negotiation

wld be interesting to consider if it is that high tho

[calm shale]

fucked up duolingo oa

[weak latch]

Same

[calm shale]

shit was kinda hard

[quick wraith]

thanks for failing it

maybe I will get an OA next week

[lament summit]

netflix is gca?

[bleak relic]

Those whose bloomberg interviews got cancelled / interviewer didn't show up, when did you know it was cancelled lol , did they email a few hours before the interview?

[west egret]

They told me I had to reschedule but this was last week. I'm set for next week rn.

[quick wraith]

the roblox oas seems like a pain

they don't even take a look at resume till you finish it

passing on roblox 😈

[grizzled bronze]

When a rejection email goes in to your junk email

[bleak relic]

o

I'll give it just for practice it they don't cancel lol

[quick wraith]

maybe I will just do the code signal for practice

[solemn tinsel]

same with 849, 3x FAANG, and referral

foxes and cars are everything to them

[quick wraith]

what is "foxes and cars"?

he isn't

Bloomberg is overrated and pay less

they start early

150k 🥜

caring about wlb at 21

[maiden coyote]

Why is the salary sharing channel for 2023 not open yet

[quick wraith]

you will burn out

I will burn out for more money

I am just sad coping

[peak ferry]

is bb 150 ng? huh I thought it was higher

[quick wraith]

I have a 150k offer but it is from a not so good company

[peak ferry]

ya that's what I thought

[maiden coyote]

Hmm, last post in that channel is from Jan/Feb 2022

[dusty frost]

i think is like 155 for base

their bonus around 25K

so it came out to around 170K to 180K tc

if i remember

they do

i just didn't bother

i heard last year someone with HFT got it up to 300K haha

i was shook

forgot which goat that was

was it yogi? lol

[quick wraith]

going for the 200k bag

[dusty frost]

damn

[peak ferry]

guessing yogi used his cit offer?

[dusty frost]

ik friends who got it to 210K

i think that more realistic

[peak ferry]

don't know what cit offered him lol

[dusty frost]

depending how u value the "end of year bonus"

[peak ferry]

chill seems like a good reason

[dusty frost]

maybe yogi can tell us haha i forgot if there was a reason reading it

[quick wraith]

how hard is bb resume screen?

[peak ferry]

I'm hoping that's gonna be me in like a few weeks

[dusty frost]

i feel as long u just email the recruiter

u can go thro lol

[peak ferry]

I got merc'd by bloomberg, but I might have also applied late for 2022 don't remember

[dusty frost]

the recruiters are quite responsive

[quick wraith]

dm the email senpai

[peak ferry]

"yea so I'm actually a chicago boy so I'm gonna need at least 400k to move to nyc for sure"

[rain patio]

yeesh 5 hours for dbricks onsite

[peak ferry]

damn

where he at now? cal?

[dusty frost]

wild does he get that TC or close to it else where tho?

[calm shale]

going there with anything less is just a dumb financial decision

honestly going there at all is just a dumb financial decision lmao

[dusty frost]

so true..

nyc eats my money

honestly earn half what i do here, then what id did at seattle post taxes and shit

[calm shale]

trade money for more money bro

[quick wraith]

flexxing discord nitro on the peasants

[teal jackal]

i have no place in this world and i am okay with that

[pallid quarry]

I thought I got ghosted by Bloomberg but they got back to me like 9 days after first technical oof

[tacit grove]

Yeah 😂

[foggy perch]

did they reject or move to next step

[pallid quarry]

Move to next

[foggy perch]

nice

got part 2 of final amzn interview in 10 minutes woo

[outer radish]

yo what do you guys say to recruiters and HMs

[foggy perch]

ez offer

thanks

they gave me the easiest lc medium for the first interview

so I have faith in the offer

really it says offer or not within 5 days

but also my Interviewer really said

that they had to work 36 hours straight one time for on-call

[dusty frost]

Yo I am rereading the old msgs from Yogi, what a GOAT haha. I remember him getting all the crazy offers

but the way he negotiated is pretty amazing

[foggy perch]

what offers he get

I feel like I've seen mips have the most goated offers/interviews in 2023 grad postings so far lmao

[dusty frost]

g/meta/citadel/draftking/tiktok/bb/uber/+

[foggy perch]

huh

[rain patio]

no offers yet...still interviewing ;

😉

just return offer

[bold pier]

First technical was video call right? How's the difficulty?

[foggy perch]

to where

[dusty frost]

def going to steal his negotiation tips lul pretty good

[rain patio]

plaid

[foggy perch]

that implies we need to have as many goated offers as that guy

lmao

[dusty frost]

haha, well according to him, he bluffed initially, said he would stop G if they raised

then he continued G

and then went back to BB and asked them to raise again

Hahaha

[foggy perch]

meh doesn't matter that much then

[dusty frost]

and also he didn't provide hard numbers

[foggy perch]

I'm just using Amazon to negotiate bloomberg

[dusty frost]

just let them keep chasing upwards

[foggy perch]

and bloomberg offer letters not even out yet

[small mountain]

there are no job openings on weekends right?

[foggy perch]

imagine google actually hiring

i guess at least google isn't as bad as meta

psh return offers are fake

also I wonder

is it possible to negotiate your amazon new grad location

or no

if you get offer

or is it just gg

damn

nah

I'm not in it to slum out at a bad city for a year

but also i'm not even planning on accepting

I just want amazon nyc

so I can max out bbg offer

[knotty talon]

i am also onthis grind

[teal jackal]

tbh i have never felt like this much of a loser in my life
relative to my goals, i am completely failing to achieve anything

[knotty talon]

i will probably accept BBG, but want to get litrally any other good offer to negotiate it out

[foggy perch]

like regardless of us location

[knotty talon]

negotiate it up*

[foggy perch]

Amazon new grad offer has to be at least 170k

right?

[dusty frost]

u can

[teal jackal]

everyone more succesful than my ass

[knotty talon]

but BBG new grad pretty spicy

[foggy perch]

what you at

[dusty frost]

190K, i estimated it about 195K for NYC

[foggy perch]

I got the 150k 20k 10k for bloomberg

base bonus relocation

for initial offer

[knotty talon]

im a returning intern, so I get also a 20k signing bonus

[foggy perch]

nice

[knotty talon]

so 208k first year TC

[dusty frost]

just say u want NYC and not anything else

[foggy perch]

I need that nyc offer

uh

I already am interviewing at amazon final

so might be late for that

[dusty frost]

yeah

[foggy perch]

sadge

[dusty frost]

when u get it

[foggy perch]

oh

[dusty frost]

just say u only want NYC

[foggy perch]

I can do that

hm

I'll see

[knotty talon]

and then 178k recurring

[foggy perch]

as long as Amazon offer is greater than nyc

[dusty frost]

Just talk to them more lol

[foggy perch]

it's good enough for nego

since bloomberg requires competing offer letter to nego

[dusty frost]

my mentee they prev told him in the past they dont got nyc

[knotty talon]

but if i get any good competing offer i know bloomberg can get it to 220k

[foggy perch]

really

[dusty frost]

then he said well i got other offers for nyc

so can u move it

[foggy perch]

huh

I have faith I can get this amazon offer to nego

aight i'm out interview part 2

[knotty talon]

and if it's google it's even better because bloomberg loses a ton of talent to google

so they're paranoide

idk, i'd assume so (?)

[foggy perch]

Yes

I asked and they require letter

[knotty talon]

i dont think they'd lightly be like "yea bro we belive you got an offer tha beats our 208k"

considering how much taht is in the first place lol

[foggy perch]

Yeah

[pallid quarry]

It was just over phone, LC med

[knotty talon]

but yea i just want another good offer to squeeze out that TC

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me 2023 new grad hiring is done

[tawdry umbra]

which firm?

[smoky lodge]

All

[blissful sonnet]

Is applying to tiktok and bytedance considered different companies? We can apply for up to 2 jobs only

[tawdry umbra]

[teal jackal]

I had a recruiter from bytedance china in my linkedin

how do i ask her to redirect me to a recruiter for bytedance/tiktok US

[gilded vortex]

google translate haha

[vast rock]

lmao

[gilded vortex]

i have heard that some teams are stopping hiring, but overall I do believe that amazon is still hiring

[teal jackal]

ill ask my mom to do it for me

[smoky lodge]

Amazon is DONE

[runic wind]

JORJI

[teal jackal]

Arstotzka so great, passport not required

[runic wind]

Glory to Arstotzka

[dusty halo]

Anyone who applied to bill.com with a referral? Did you get an email confirmation?

[vast rock]

yall has anyone been getting phone interview for bloomberg lately? applied like 2 weeks ago, it's kinda gettign ghosted. I talked to a recruiter at career fair they just told me to wait

[gilded vortex]

schedule could be packed

I scheduled my phone interview for the 14th

and I did that last month

[weak latch]

Welp

That was quick lmfao

Did the redo yesterday

[floral plank]

Have my redo in two days

[frank wedge]

Oh it was a 6 leg, I thought you meant straight up

[weak latch]

I think Palantir is probably filling up then lol

Rip

[quick wraith]

got this a week back. should I start harassing the recruiters?

[floral plank]

not surprised

[prime palm]

You can redo the karat?

[weak latch]

Yeah

Bruh there’s a 6 month cooldown to reapply for PLTR after getting rejected from Karat

That’s what the recruiter said

[night magnet]

Do you guys consider it unethical to interview with a company for the sole purpose of TC negotiation

[weak latch]

Wdym

[night magnet]

I'm in the process with a company that I would never join (requires onsite and I don't wanna live in the area) but if I get an offer from them I would use that offer to negoatiate w another comapny

yeah i am

just wondering what u guys thought

[serene fable]

Not like they would know unless you tell them outright

[weak latch]

Yeah no one cares if you do that you’ll be fine

[night magnet]

also

my friend who accepted an S tier offer is planning on continuosly interviewing even after he starts to keep his skills up

I'm lowkey thinking about that also

at least for like a year

[serene fable]

Probably a good idea if you can keep it up

[lapis cove]

SS tier or bust

[night magnet]

prestigehunt used to be good now its trash

[serene fable]

Is levels.fyi the new tier list?

[lapis cove]

S tier: where I work F tier: where you work

[night magnet]

spotify?? zon??

what is this cap

oh its a meme

im stupid

[serene fable]

Top tier probably means faang, hft, and top of levels.fyi

[night magnet]

lmfaoo mindgeek

imagine

bruh

this is how much phub pays devs

ru kidding me

[quick wraith]

Got resume rejected from Duolingo

It’s over

[bleak relic]

Do large tech companies care if you have an offer from a startup for nego?

[serene fable]

Depends on if you're willing to go there instead

[night magnet]

yoooo

is there like phub premium or smth

i wonder if they get free access to whatever subscription service phub offers

fr

probably a top 100 site in the world

jesus

holy

[quick wraith]

Do you get access to shoots?

Makes it better

😈

[night magnet]

lmao how they paying devs so little

[night magnet]

or is that a lot for montreal

[chilly burrow]

Wtf does this mean?!

[night magnet]

just ask what time

[old smelt]

Doesn't seem like a legit offer

[old smelt]

Seems positive

[autumn ridge]

holy shit is the nike app bad

[lapis cove]

roblox recruiter scheduling call after final :O

[foggy perch]

damn that fast

[lapis cove]

its been almost 2 weeks lol

[foggy perch]

oh

I thought you interviewed this monday

rip

[lapis cove]

nah on the 29th

[foggy perch]

damn

I didn't even know they scheduled august interviews

lmao

[urban gulch]

What is the context?

[foggy perch]

think you're gonna insta accept the offer if you get it?

[lapis cove]

recruiter reached out to me so i had one of the first onsites

[foggy perch]

nice

or are ya still waiting for other offers

[lapis cove]

not sure

still in process with duolingo and scale

but roblox so good

[foggy perch]

fair

[foggy perch]

i think scale >= roblox but idk about duolingo

depends what you value tbh

[frank wedge]

Do you go to a t5?

[lapis cove]

yes

[foggy perch]

classic

ik people going to t50 who've gotten scale oa though

just need cracked internships

[frank wedge]

Not scale, duo they’re on some bs even with internships

[foggy perch]

nah I know people at my school which is t50 have gotten scale ai oa

they just have a bunch of faang and unicorn stuff

[lapis cove]

duo is the one thats more selective

[foggy perch]

^

[frank wedge]

I meant duo is the one I was questioning lol

[foggy perch]

ah

[lapis cove]

at least for oa, scale gives out more than duo

[foggy perch]

nah I know a decent number of people at my school who've gotten scale ai

but barely any who have gotten duolingo oa

ehhhh

I think scale and duo screen way harder

resume wise

fair

[frank wedge]

Duo won’t give me oa with Yahoo and Pinterest. Rip

[lapis cove]

yea i mean roblox is the only offer i actually have (unless they calling me to reject or schedule another interview lol), but scale and duo both have interesting points

duo has really cool culture and product is actually kinda doing good in the world, tc is competitive when u adjust for CoL

scale has that IPO upside

[foggy perch]

I just want roblox so I can end the job search

[foggy perch]

biggest downside is that it's in pittsburgh

[foggy perch]

roblox calling to reject would be so scuffed

[frank wedge]

That’s happened to me before, hope it doesn’t happen to anyone else

[foggy perch]

really

by roblox?

[frank wedge]

Square

[foggy perch]

oh

[lapis cove]

databricks called me to reject after final last year lmao

[foggy perch]

hopefully Roblox ain't as evil

[lapis cove]

soulcrushing

[foggy perch]

oof

I wonder what roblox offers are like this year

[lapis cove]

there is a decent chance its to schedule another interview tho

[foggy perch]

really

[lapis cove]

i know someone who had another one scheduled after final

[foggy perch]

really

huhhh

I assumed final was as its name implied

final

[lapis cove]

yea sometimes companies will do another tho if they really on the fence

[latent sun]

Thats clutch tbh if you have one more chance

Had similar thing happen with me

[foggy perch]

maybe

[latent sun]

the ball is in your court

[foggy perch]

I prefer accept vs reject process actually tbh

extra pressure sounds annoying

at least I probs got bloomberg and amazon as backups if roblox fails

[teal jackal]

I have no offer right now

And only interview is late November

I do not know what went wrong with my life

[shrewd ocean]

which company

[teal jackal]

C1

[latent sun]

Bro what you have offers from them?

[shrewd ocean]

its literally sept 9th relax

[latent sun]

if so you're chilling

[teal jackal]

It's been about 2 weeks since I started

Do the resume rejects come fastest

[shrewd ocean]

yes

[teal jackal]

Do the phones and non-auto OAs take longer

Ah

[shrewd ocean]

ya bro ur chilling

[lapis cove]

yes

yea ur good bro

[teal jackal]

I think I'm just stressed from seeing other people get interviews when I don't

[lapis cove]

couple years ago it took like 5 months for me to hear back from amzn

[teal jackal]

Makes sense

The timeframes for hearing back usually don't make sense anyways

[foggy perch]

I have Bloomberg verbal since letters aren't ready yet

just finished Amazon today

and I think I probs got it

unless one of the interviewers hates me or smthing

I really like the idea of the extra money from Roblox tho

[late kestrel]

zon giv oa pls

manifesting monday morning oa

[foggy perch]

amazon backlog rn must be insane

lmao

all the tech interns who thought they were gonna get return offers trickling in

[teal jackal]

Lmaoooo

With Amazon tho, y'all lucky you guys don't have Amazon return offer rejects to compete with

We can't apply for another 6 months

[white escarp]

Cant u apply for sde1?

[teal jackal]

Cooldown

6 months according to reject email

[white escarp]

But uni != industry

[teal jackal]

True

I should apply to individual teams hiring for sde1

[white escarp]

U can talk w a amazon recruiter that is hiring for sde1

Cold app sucks

[teal jackal]

Yeah that makes sense

[white escarp]

I cold applied like 50 apps all rejectef

[teal jackal]

My dad has a friend at aws Boston

I might talk to em

[white escarp]

Yeee

[teal jackal]

I feel like my dad's friend would feel bad pipping his friends son

[white escarp]

Take me toooo

I simp banana

[teal jackal]

Truth

[chilly burrow]

After final

I got this email

[teal jackal]

I didn't know that the 6 month cool down only applied to Amazon university hiring, rather than general Amazon as a whole

[urban gulch]

Ohh i think any time its a call usually its good right?

[teal jackal]

Well that changes a lot to me

[urban gulch]

Otherwise would just be an email reject

[chilly burrow]

Idk 😭

[tardy geode]

i will boost this server till i die if i get an offer from amazon

[chilly burrow]

Just gib me job plz

[tardy geode]

i pray everyday to get an oa from amazon

[urban gulch]

Wait were u actually resume rejected from Zon?

[chilly burrow]

Not enough experience I guess 😔

[tardy geode]

wait fr?

[urban gulch]

Dafooq

[old smelt]

Uber?

[urban gulch]

Do u have a pulse?

[tardy geode]

i am confused

[chilly burrow]

Atm ya

[urban gulch]

That’s the amount of exp u need for Zon

[teal jackal]

Wait how does Amazon resume reject?

[chilly burrow]

They send a reject

Without giving you oa

[teal jackal]

I've occasionally seen people with no prior work xp get an OA from Amazon

Wack

[tardy geode]

wtf fr?

[teal jackal]

I didn't think it was possible tbh

Wow someone who broke my record for being unlucky

[chilly burrow]

I have 3 prior internships

[lilac siren]

Maybe u can try to reach out to a recruiter

[urban gulch]

Les be honest

[chilly burrow]

1 at a decent company

[urban gulch]

@chilly burrow should not be settling for Zon lol

[teal jackal]

That's wack

[white escarp]

Math.random @ amazon

[urban gulch]

They rejected u cuz they know

Ur going to get a better offer

[tardy geode]

i understand linked list theoretically but when it comes to coding probs on it , i suck . what do i do? 😢

[white escarp]

U got rejected by banana?

[lilac siren]

I saw an example that amazon's ats identified an NG resume as an experienced one

[chilly burrow]

Amazon lets you fill in exp so it doesn't matter

[lilac siren]

So that guy cannot receive his OA

[teal jackal]

Bloomberg resume rejected me with Amazon on resume

Do they just hate former Amazon interns? Or just me

Probably just me

[lilac siren]

And he reached out to a recruiter

And was asked to apply sde 2

[glass cedar]

which day did u interview on? im stuck in the limbo rn like u were

[late kestrel]

yeah i was gonna say u might accidentally clicked something on the app that was an auto reject

[teal jackal]

400k tc time

[lilac siren]

All the ats are shit

[teal jackal]

Apple ats is the only good one

Apple is really good at identifying key skills and keywords

[lilac siren]

Yes but they hire less NG

[tardy geode]

i have decided that I would run naked around uni if i get a FAANG offer

[teal jackal]

True

[lapis cove]

8/29

[teal jackal]

I will buy a Barbie Jeep power wheels and drive it around campus if I get a job that's really good

At least as good as Amazon for pay

[glass cedar]

that means only 2 more days until i get r

[rain patio]

dang i gotta wait like 1.5 weeks then

[grizzled bronze]

Not worth getting on a sex offender registry list just because you got an Amazon offer

[late kestrel]

its fine everyone in zon is already on that list

cant dispute the facts

[raven spoke]

what does it mean if after roblox interview the recruiter wants to hop on a zoom call lol

[exotic lintel]

really ?

[dusty frost]

zoom call? lol

ive never heard this interesting lol

let us know hh

[lapis cove]

i got offer from that

but some ppl have gotten additional interviews so not guaranteed

[foggy perch]

You finished call?

[lapis cove]

yessir

[foggy perch]

Nice

What the comp details be like?

Is it still 250k tc y1

[lapis cove]

lil bit more

[foggy perch]

[weak latch]

Holy fuck lol

Massive W

[grand barn]

has someone tried karat before? how was the format?

[lapis cove]

i dont think duolingo or scale can compete with that so might just cancel them lol

[dusty frost]

is karat the third party phone interview?

if it is, its just write working leetcode code, u can run as many times, not as much bs of talking, just write write write. and if u finish 2 questions is a pass. if u dont then u dont pass

[grand barn]

the video interview yep. I think I have an hour interview with a person tho?

[dusty frost]

Yup

It just Leetcode for 1 hour

get thro two questions and ur solid

about low mediums to mediums

[grand barn]

you have to explain to the interviewer too right ?

[dusty frost]

u talk to them initially for like 2-5 mins

no need to over explain it tho

just code

[grand barn]

anyone did karat for broadway recently ?

[dusty frost]

is ur focus lol

they really are more heavily can u write working code

[raven spoke]

ye like recruiter emailed asking for times i’m free next week

no mention of like interview or anything

[weak latch]

1 minute introduce yourself
10 minutes runtime questions or “here’s a possible implementation for some problem, would it work?” Type questions
45 minutes coding, up to 3 questions total, each following up on each other. First question is pretty easy, second question is around a medium, sometimes using the first questions result as part of it, and the last question is a tougher medium or easier hard

[dusty frost]

even tho there is up to 3 questions, 2 is passing.

3 is just a bonus lol.

[grand barn]

so I should just do blind75

[grizzled bronze]

Kirb 300

[grand barn]

no special subset to focus on?

[dusty frost]

maybe leetcode assessment

[grand barn]

whats that?

[dusty frost]

around strings / arrays / dfs / bfs/ trees

Leetcode has an asessment section where they just spin up questions for u

[weak latch]

Both of my karats involved some kind of dfs/bfs on a matrix or tree

[dusty frost]

accurate

[grand barn]

whats that? r u trolling? i never know with this server lol

[dusty frost]

it a troll / joke haha

[weak latch]

Nah Kirb 300 is real

[grand barn]

lmao.

[weak latch]

#2022_summer message

[grand barn]

this is what you mean by leetcode assesment https://leetcode.com/assessment/ ?

[foggy perch]

Scale definitely can

I think

At least based off levels

[dusty frost]

yo

didnt know kirb made that

ive really been out of sync lol

[foggy perch]

Any non-nda advice you have on passing roblox onsite now that you passed btw?

[lapis cove]

eh i mean it was very standard technical questions and behavioral

[foggy perch]

I.e. good behavioral stuff to focus on

Oh

[grand barn]

will never doubt you guys ever again lmao

[lapis cove]

i used grokking the coding interview and grind 75 to prep technical

[dusty frost]

yeh, grokking is the best tho

lol

[lapis cove]

ye but so much of it is in options

[dusty frost]

but yeah for karat just grind ur dfs / bfs / matrix / strings / arrays

[foggy perch]

true

a good amount of roblox tc is in options too though

right

or at least RSUs

[light tusk]

@foggy perch did you hear back from Bloomberg about official letter?

[foggy perch]

no

I haven't emailed them again about it recently though

[light tusk]

Can I dm you?

[foggy perch]

I'll probs email again next week if I get amazon offer so I can nego bloomberg

sure

just re-sent request since I ignored last one

[light tusk]

Thank you

[lapis cove]

yea the rsus are public stock so basically cash

[foggy perch]

can't he sell scale options back to scale?

idk how it works

oh

if he can't sell scale options

then yeah roblox > scale

idk

hmmmmm

idk tbh

I think scale ipo could be big

but idk enough about it

[old smelt]

they do data labelling for AI, they have a lot of big tech clients

[dusty frost]

dunno, scale im not too big on

[old smelt]

but they're tryna expand to an ML platform product

[dusty frost]

skeptical on a data labeling company

[old smelt]

like an "AWS" for AI lol

[lapis cove]

scale recruiter said they cant tell me much until later in process but basically said that ipo wld be the first liquidity event if i worked there

[foggy perch]

meh I'd just choose roblox then

if you can't sell scale pre ipo

unless you have 0 faith in roblox stock

[lapis cove]

^

worth at least like $20k

more if stock goes up more

[dusky plover]

anyone heard back from intuit after applying?

also how accurate is this lmfao

yeee but just replace that with the newgrad repo for us

[foggy perch]

really damn

I feel so motivated to ace roblox for the money now

[calm shale]

whats the atlassian link

[foggy perch]

I wonder what percent of people pass roblox onsite

I can't tell if they screen a lot or not many with oa

[dusky plover]

isnt the oa ridiculously hard

its the only one i kept in the bucket list lmao ive been avoiding it

[weak latch]

Unpopular opinion: Simplify is terrible

[foggy perch]

yeah

they give it to everyone though

so idk how much of a screen it is

[serene fable]

Codesignal is always hard

[dusky plover]

really? it saves mroe time than it wastes so i use it

[serene fable]

And they have pretty high standards

[foggy perch]

yeah

roblox also rejects based off the other parts of oa

[serene fable]

Harder to tell what you did wrong with the cognitive section though

[foggy perch]

yeah

it's rough

[serene fable]

On the subject of codesignal, what type of questions can you get for question 3? I've gotten matrix questions and text parsing ones

[foggy perch]

matrix usually for q3

[serene fable]

Don't know if there are others

[foggy perch]

ehh

you need at least 800s to pass codesignal

I think

i havent heard of anyone below 800 codesignal hearing back at least

[serene fable]

I got a text parsing question for my roblox codesignal question 3, read the commands and execute certain directions based on them

[foggy perch]

oh yeah

I've gotten that before

that's a chill one

q4 is always rough

has anyone else gotten the infinite number line question for q4

and actually passed it

[serene fable]

Still screwed it up though, took too much time, probably brought down my score a bunch

Q4 sucked

[foggy perch]

q4 is all that really matters

q3 is a lot less low impact

you can get an 800+ with q1 q2 q4

[serene fable]

I thought the point was to focus on q4 more because q3 was harder, not because it was worth less?

[night magnet]

Sheesh

I sent the official code signal white paper a while ago

If u look in my sent and scroll up you’ll see it

[foggy perch]

nope

q4 is way harder than q3

q3 usually more code but q4 usually harder conceptually

[serene fable]

This just for roblox or in general?

[foggy perch]

roblox uses the general codesignal

same for every company

codesignal official rubric says 1 2 4 weighted the most

ye

that's what I said

[serene fable]

Any good way to study codesignal q4? Just keep doing dp leetcode mediums?

[low scroll]

q4 is dp for gca?

what do they usually ask for gca

[foggy perch]

some q4 are just weird though

like the infinite number line requires a red black tree or something

[serene fable]

Checks out, my roblox codesignal had an array problem for q4, tried to use dp but it probably should have used a sliding window solution

[jaunty basalt]

Some are just insane

[foggy perch]

^

[jaunty basalt]

Like clever tricks

[serene fable]

I do suck at sliding window and greedy problems

[foggy perch]

I got lucky with a codesignal a few months ago

which I used to pass roblox oa lmao

[jaunty basalt]

I never had good luck with those

I was gonna square link it but you know

[serene fable]

I did pretty well on a practice codesignal but screwed up the actual coding test

Still only an 818

[jaunty basalt]

I feel like they’re not even similar in difficulty

Or maybe it’s a mental thing

I’m going in there knowing it’s practice

[serene fable]

Can't find the white paper, does anyone have a link

[jaunty basalt]

I think it was a pdf but I don’t have the link

[serene fable]

Maybe it should be pinned somewhere

[dusky plover]

only ppl that got fasttracked afaik

is it possible to be in process for multiple elon subsidiaries

like be in pipeline for tesla and neuralink, etc

[late kestrel]

theyre separate companies

[dusky plover]

fsho

time to apply to neuralink and make SAO real

[calm shale]

no one got the atlassian link?

is it filled already?

[nocturne oriole]

wrong company

need metaverse