2023_grads

[kind galleon]

ohh ye

or maybe remote work

but at a startup, i think being remote is actually a huge detriment to productivity

maybe like, the cost of finding talent in bumfk nowhere's kinda outweighs the savings

maybe

[wind drum]

nah 2bed 2bath

and I was at an AV company there

[kind galleon]

kinda weird stupid curiousity, do u have any pics @wind drum

j wondering what 750 gets u

and there's also the short term "tax"

assuming u stayed at a bnb

[wind drum]

let me see if i have any but i just sublet from someone so I didn't have to pay a tax

[kind galleon]

ya airbnb is such a scam honesstly loll

not scam, but just kinda worse than hotel tbh

staying in hotels from now on

[lapis cove]

moved to another job?

[whole berry]

i think so

[vague furnace]

does anyone know whats different interview wise between the Front-End new grad role and the SDE new grad roles?

[whole berry]

i need to see this for myself too

man i need this job to move tf out

[lapis cove]

now u can change ur name and stop being doomer

big

[azure zephyr]

omg

i've been waiting for you to get your offer

[foggy perch]

I imagine front-end actually tests your front-end skills

while normal just tests leetcode and behaviorals

[azure zephyr]

big congrats! montreal is what you wanted right?

[foggy perch]

wait so after Amazon Final, if Portal changes to this it means you got the offer?

huh

[serene fable]

We're talking about the status, right? If it changes from "Under Review" to "Application submitted"?

[late kestrel]

just behav

[autumn ridge]

One of the questions was what do you see happening in the next 6 months in technology or something like that

[late kestrel]

breakthru tech

[green bronze]

Anyone get Netflix to let them redo GCA

Or extend

My score from circle isn’t going to leave the system in time and imma get autodenied if I submit this

@shell fern did U intern @ salesforce?

This past summer

[shell fern]

No

[solemn crag]

No Netflix OA yet😭

[formal fable]

I think with Netflix, no OA in a week means reject. Everyone's who I see getting the OA got it rather quickly.

[grizzled bronze]

Nah

Their email said they'll be sending an OA over the next few weeks, and some people took more than a week to get OA

[formal fable]

Well, I just saw someone get it in under a week, like 2 days. Here I am, waiting for close to 3 weeks now. Just need some closure. 😦

[grizzled bronze]

New grad season is just getting started

[formal fable]

The other guy who got the OA also applied after me. So, I'm not feeling too hopeful. It's simple chronological order being violated

[grizzled bronze]

"chronological order"

[formal fable]

FIFO

[solemn crag]

😭 Even a referral won't work Netflix why u gotta be so mean

[formal fable]

You're either gettin an OA, which is a basic step with minimal checks needed, so shouldn't have great variation in timelines, or you're getting rejected

[grizzled bronze]

They have fewer new grad spots, don't get too attached to one company

[quick wraith]

Let me dream

[formal fable]

Hence the speculation mate. Achieve closure, it hurts less than the dream

[quick wraith]

True

[formal fable]

Bonus points if you actually get an OA after getting closure!!

[quick wraith]

What if you are a mediocre candidate who gets called later when all the good ones pass on the company

[formal fable]

It's new grad and it's Netflix. How many good candidates do you know who'll pass on Netlfix's sweet all cash comp?

Just running probabilities here.

[lapis cove]

how do i be getting duolingo oa but not netflix oa

[formal fable]

Why would Duoling OA be any harder to get than Netflix?

[quick wraith]

I have a return offer so I am chilling

[lapis cove]

a lot more ppl in this discord got netflix oas

[quick wraith]

But I still hoped I will get some OAs

[formal fable]

I got a shitty return offer, so I'm cautiously dreaming

[quick wraith]

What’s the TC?

[formal fable]

??? Last I checked there were like 2-3 right?

[quick wraith]

Is it good enough?

[formal fable]

Netflix sent out Airtable form to everyone not OA

[lapis cove]

oh well some ppl mightve processed airtable as oa if they dumb

but i see 24 !process commands for OA

[formal fable]

7 actually I just rechecked

[lapis cove]

@formal fable

[quick wraith]

Maybe the new grad race is rigged against internationals

[formal fable]

What's the result for Duolingo?

[formal fable]

Internationals are a less than ideal hire. All that visa crap puts them off

Duolingo seems to have 6 OA entries. The prestige rises.

[late kestrel]

youre thinking too deep. its nothing more than some outsourced kid being told to press a "send OA" button when he feels like it

[formal fable]

LET ME HAVE CLOSURE!!!!

[quick wraith]

Closure chads > hopium virgin

[formal fable]

I picked closure over copium the day I got rejected after 4 perfect interviews with a company. That day, I converted to the religion of RNG

[cobalt siren]

love being edged by microsoft thinking i got an interview but it's just a microsoft edge ad

[ornate cliff]

Neetcode vs grind 75 vs grokking pls vote

[formal fable]

Is microsoft even sending out any responses? I think I've not seen any movement with them yet wrt NG 2023. Just an application that seems to be pointless so far.

[rustic vessel]

Apple interns getting screwed by hc 🙂

[ornate cliff]

What about Amazon intern who didn't finish project because he just wanted to get the resume stamp and gtfo

#copium

[gilded dust]

I have verbal offer but worried I won’t get written due to the economy

[lapis cove]

btw my friend who didnt get intern return offer asked amazn recruiter if the cooldown matters for intern from fulltime

and was told no

[formal fable]

It's a bit early for 2023 grads, so while no offer might seem shitty, I know hiring will ramp up near graduation. I've seen it over and over again. On the other hand, a shitty offer is forever a shitty offer. So.... While I'm grateful to have employment guarantees, given the international student's usual constraints, comps gotta be better. Don't have parents' place to fall back to here in the US to save rent

[smoky lodge]

How late can you renege

[gray niche]

on your first day 🤣

[smoky lodge]

Like say there’s a sign on bonus

[late kestrel]

you pay it back

[smoky lodge]

Obvsly you can’t renege after you get that right

[gray niche]

you'll have to pay it back

[smoky lodge]

what if I already spent it

[jaunty basalt]

That’s called quitting

Every place I got that gave sign on only gave it after starting

[smoky lodge]

Damn so I can’t sign on, get bonus, renege, sign on, get bonus, etc ?

[gray niche]

yeah but not everywhere is like that my gf got her signon bonus 7 months b4 she started

[smoky lodge]

That was my plan for 500k starting new grad TC

Sign on bonus farming

[gray niche]

350k or bust

[jaunty basalt]

7 months???? Bruh I didn’t have an offer seven months before starting

[gray niche]

she different 💯

[jaunty basalt]

Lucky guy

What company though

So I can use as anecdote

[gray niche]

bro tryna dox aye mods get this mane

nah but it was a smaller company so ig its different i dunno

[smoky lodge]

Why don’t I put my skills to something more profitable than OAs

Like robbing banks

[winter thistle]

samsara is very rng

[gray niche]

but she has to work there for 24months or has to pay back prorated bonus

[smoky lodge]

Or hacking and selling information

[fresh lagoon]

common, you cant just farm sign ons and leave after

12 months maybe more common

[smoky lodge]

there was a guy who signed like 30 offers at once, got payed 30 salaries at once, and it took multiple months before they all caught him

but in that short time he netted in excess of a million dollars

honestly if i knew a guaranteed way to cheese the system that wasn't illegal i would totally do it

[weak latch]

bruhhhh i got a very very similar question to last time LMFAO

this one was defo harder

but i got it 😈

[smoky lodge]

what place

[weak latch]

i fucked up all the runtimes tho ong recursion kills my brain

[ornate cliff]

Yeah but they'll see you got not inclined what's the point 😅

[weak latch]

well i solved 2/3 questions but i think that's enough for palantir

[smoky lodge]

bro....

you were supposed to bomb so headcount would be higher

wtf

[lusty jewel]

hey

[ornate cliff]

Hi

[weak latch]

sorry 😂

[lusty jewel]

does anyone know what i can expect from my jp morgan final tmrw

[smoky lodge]

failure, because you're going to be a real one and increase headcount for the rest of us

[weak latch]

good thing they dont care about runtime 😂 😂

[smoky lodge]

with palantir

does it matter what location you apply to

[weak latch]

yeah he said completeness >>> optimal

[smoky lodge]

looking at the app right now

[weak latch]

uhhh i assume it doesn't

they'll proly just ask you if you wanna go somewhere else if urs is full

[lapis cove]

eh still worth the apply probably

does karat use same question bank for diff companies or nah

[weak latch]

wait what

so cooldown doesn't apply?

for non-returned interns to apply for new grad?

[lapis cove]

yea thats correct

[weak latch]

interesting

[lapis cove]

its a diff job posting so make sense

[weak latch]

i applied last month but still 👻

i applied on a new email 😂

[normal palm]

i think it might have been that individual's resume tho, codesignal was really good performance tho

[smoky lodge]

what tf do i say to these???

[normal palm]

i usually come up with something generic and cherry pick it for each application

i also keep a "common application question" answer word bank so i dont have to repeat myself over and over

[smoky lodge]

ngl actual interview questions on apps is the number 1 stopping me from applying to some places

[normal palm]

facts lol

[marble bronze]

I love imperialist US

[normal palm]

im such a perfectionist with it too, i end up spending like 30mins writing the answer

[smoky lodge]

do i even want to work at palantir

how much of TC is stock

[ornate cliff]

This graph is every company tho

[normal palm]

well the base you'll get will outweigh most others

kek

[smoky lodge]

-71%?????

[ornate cliff]

Also wwiii about to start so Palantir about to pop off

[tawny sluice]

Hey! Does anybody receive ng offer from amazon this week?

[smoky lodge]

nah dude think about that

[normal palm]

@cedar nebula ?

[smoky lodge]

if like you got 50k compensation in stocks from palantir

that would only be worth like

15k now

[normal palm]

kek elon with the op prediction

[smoky lodge]

massive L

[bronze nymph]

"4 perfect interviews", I get that shit happens, but generally it helps to be self critical rather than blaming rng for everything

[small mountain]

what are some always-reliable questions to ask a company during an interview?

[formal fable]

Been working and interviewing long enough to know when to self-criticize and not. I got rejected for Zon SDE 2 cause I messed up System design. I got rejected by this one cause they got spooked by my other ongoing interviews which I should've not mentioned the company of, I suppose. Humility is great, objectivity is greater.

[smoky lodge]

it pays 200k and "big data analytics" sounds cool

like what am i supposed to say the ceo is sexy

[tawny sluice]

Congrat! Could you please tell me when did you take vo?

[small mountain]

banger

how many do you normally ask

[formal fable]

Virtual onsite

[tawny sluice]

the final round

[smoky lodge]

i usually just ask the person interviewing me what they hate about the company

[small mountain]

do i take this seriously

[tawny sluice]

I had the final round on 30 aug😭 Hope to see some update tomorrow

[smoky lodge]

serious

[smoky lodge]

obvsly dress it up a little and don't be as blunt

but it's fun to watch the interviewer squirm after making me squirm

[tawny sluice]

Did you see the status 'move to another job' yesterday?

[smoky lodge]

😈

[normal palm]

what's ur codesignal on average

[formal fable]

"What are the greatest challenges you've faced during your tenure at XYZ?"

[ornate cliff]

• what do you like/hate the most about your job?
• what does mentorship look like for this position?

congrats, what team?

[normal palm]

tbh i tried asking recruiters "what do you like/hate most about your job", didnt get the best responses lol

[small mountain]

that one seems too googled

its very generic sounding

[normal palm]

true

[ornate cliff]

oh I ask the swe interviewing me, recruiters are useless

[normal palm]

i even asked an engineer that

nothing

cuz they all think they're being monitored so they have to make the company look good

[formal fable]

Those are the targets. Recruiters only need to be talked to about comp n shit

[ornate cliff]

ya that's a sign theyre a bot and there's nothing enjoyable about the job

[normal palm]

lool

[normal palm]

i mean would anyone actually say that they hate their job for a specific reason

[ornate cliff]

no obviously not but you can glean a lot from how they answer that q

[smoky lodge]

code signal is nice because once you've done it once you can study up and destroy it because it's follows a format

[ornate cliff]

and some people are just honest 🤷🏼‍♂️

[normal palm]

debatably lol

[tawny sluice]

envy u now

[normal palm]

same

[harsh ingot]

The best offers come later in the week

[normal palm]

@cedar nebula did you do 1x30?

[smoky lodge]

1. and 2) are gimmies, 3) is a matrix question where run time doesn't matter and you have to write a lot, and 4) is an algo question all about efficiency

[formal fable]

Same problems over and over again?

[normal palm]

how many technical questions, what difficulty?

[smoky lodge]

no

[normal palm]

it does follow a similar format though

[smoky lodge]

if you blitz through 1 and 2 then get lucky with 4 you're set

[normal palm]

i've seen repetitions of questions during practice rounds

wait wth LOL

what's ur lc count

[formal fable]

I hated the message splitting problem. I mean, I liked it, since I love a chance to do fancy math solution, but it takes me too long and that screwed over q4

[normal palm]

wdym? which one?

is it actually

damn

[limber vale]

Wb neetcode

[normal palm]

snowflake?

[ornate cliff]

@normal palm you already been through amazon process lol ng isn't that different

[normal palm]

oh wait

nuro.ai

LOL

[ornate cliff]

just more rounds

[normal palm]

oh ye i see... + ood tho

ye lol

interested in how the ng process looked tho

did ng positions already come out?

[winter thistle]

samsara is rng, im interning at samsara rn 💀

[lapis cove]

they said 1-2 weeks u mfs

[normal palm]

how is it

[winter thistle]

on my last two weeks

[normal palm]

NOOOOOOOO

[winter thistle]

will know my return offer fate next week

[normal palm]

how did you find out about graylock

bruh there's a conference channel 🤯

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[west egret]

How did you manage that?

[foggy perch]

idk I've seen the same Q4 a few times in CodeSignal

the dumb infinite number line one idk how to solve

[stark portal]

Any one aware of Apple full time roles?

[wind drum]

nuro said they aren't hiring new grads when they were at greylock

[limber vale]

did you mostly get string array questions?

thats what people have been saying

[normal palm]

no one tell them that their random number generator sucks LOL

[normal palm]

rip

[livid yew]

claim extensions on your OAs/interviews etc cause queen dead lol

nah that would never fly

[quartz vale]

Wait seriously

?

[wind drum]

yes i was pissed

[quartz vale]

I asked them again and they said they will open in October

Let me just ask them again again 🤔

[wind drum]

honestly they probably have no idea

[formal fable]

Wait, what? 321k New grad at Zon? Is this USD?

[wind drum]

places like stripe were supposed to open in late august yet here we are

[tawny sluice]

@cedar nebula bro did you applied ng from amazon student program?

[quartz vale]

If you are not trolling, comp321 is a course number

🤣

[livid yew]

[peak ferry]

[formal fable]

Phew... I was like, wtf

[livid yew]

pretty nice TC though if it was that

[weak latch]

Can someone help me with runtime analysis

[livid yew]

would prob be enough to make me start looking for new job

[quartz vale]

From Nuro recruiter they said we might be opening in October but not guaranteed

[livid yew]

at Zon?

yeah if I transfer to Zon I would prob come in at SDE2 lol

or at least try

yeah but I dont really want to live in NYC lol

fine by me

I'd take the location I want over TC any day

I forget how much New Grads love to circle jerk TC lol

[peak ferry]

it’s the only I have

[livid yew]

yup

eventually you gotta take job now, and jump next year

[lapis cove]

poor mentality

[livid yew]

[maiden coyote]

It's weird coz last year I got an interview from them with a codesignals of 780 or something

[livid yew]

by this logic, you would rather live in Fargo, North Dakota with a TC of 2M than Seattle with TC of 500K

[normal palm]

I HAVE HOPE

[lapis cove]

yes

[urban gulch]

What? So are u saying you’d take 50k in Seattle over 10M in Fargo?

[livid yew]

Well I guess it scales

at some point I would take location/lifestyle over money

my interest and ambitions in Software Engineering are not motived by money. I guess I fall into the minority here.

just picked a random location

[limber vale]

LMAO, cant be making comparisons like that and expecting people to say seattle

[calm mist]

Just got a phone interview with microsoft for next week. Any tips?

[white escarp]

damn u got redirected to montreal

niceeee

[livid yew]

damn I guess I need to learn how to care about money more

I just picked a common tech hub and a random location

[lapis cove]

poor mentality was a joke tho obv u just gotta scale to CoL

[normal palm]

unless ur in toronto and tc is always low while col is high

[livid yew]

but I mean you gotta be like 7YOE + to be at 2mil lol

so

[normal palm]

not surprised lol

[lapis cove]

id still take 100k fargo just cuz yr gonna be saving so much more money

[weak latch]

YESSIR

[normal palm]

2mil at 7YOE is actually really friggin good what position is that

[livid yew]

nothing specific just a random thought, idk maybe more like 10YOE

[lapis cove]

2M at 10 YOE is still insane lmao

[livid yew]

facts

[normal palm]

ye lol

[livid yew]

but if most of that is stocks, its kinda a meme

[formal fable]

$2M at 10 YOE is kinda insane. TC is not linearly proportionate to YOE

[normal palm]

i think my skip manager was making like 700 at like 10-15 yoe (idek tho)

500 was stock, kek

[livid yew]

for fucks sack dudes, I just threw out random numbers

jesus christ

[normal palm]

this is a guess from other skip manager job postings

[livid yew]

yeah but like, you have money but nothing to do

[static moth]

2 mill? bro are u srs? thats chicken shit

50 m at 30 yoe or bust

facts bro

[livid yew]

broooo I just used Fargo as a random fucking location

[normal palm]

breh 200 + at lcol that's crazy lOL

[lapis cove]

yea google principal is like 1M tc lol

[livid yew]

yup thats pretty average for houses near me

lol

[smoky lodge]

Dogee!

[weak latch]

nah

[smoky lodge]

i like this mindset

[livid yew]

my recent job change was 80K TC (Hourly) LCOL > 135K TC MCOL so like idk anymore

[normal palm]

Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices? I didn't know BH did real estate LOL

[static moth]

my recruiter told me that he doesnt like ur mindset

and that amazon is done

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me that you're done and the hitmen have almost arrived.

[weak latch]

now that's more like it

[static moth]

did ur recruiter tell u if amazon was done?

[livid yew]

you really are stuck on Fargo lol. fine to re-iterate my point, look at Blue Earth, MN

[smoky lodge]

yes.

[static moth]

oh

[lapis cove]

my recruiter is inside your walls

[smoky lodge]

my recruiter is inside your balls

[late kestrel]

no, thats where my pee is

[smoky lodge]

*blood

my pee is all red

[lapis cove]

🎣

[wheat seal]

80k an hr, u ballin 🤑

[livid yew]

read the text

[wheat seal]

Ik I’m joking lol

[livid yew]

tbh I just made a guess

[smoky lodge]

80k an hour is rookie numbers

[eternal hatch]

Guys, could I get a gf if I work at Zon?

[normal palm]

based on personal experience, no

[livid yew]

I think my hourly rate was more like $30/hr when I left

so whatever the total would be cause, like 40hrs + 5-6hrs of OT pay

[eternal hatch]

I thought all handsome mfs work at Zon?

Isn't that why we take a selfie for OA?

[livid yew]

yeah I would be making decent money tbh

damn 80/hr I would prob be over 200k

with my average of 45hrs/week

[normal palm]

well now that you mention it, there was a floor in zon's toronto office with a bunch of attractive and well dressed folks, i think they might've been on the business side of things

[livid yew]

[urban gulch]

I think so many ppl work at Zon that a lot of handsome ppl work there. That’s not saying anything tho, is just math

[eternal hatch]

Thanks, hope I make it

?!!

[livid yew]

gotta google that

playa vista? Cali somewhere Im going to guess

ah

makes sense

just say LA then

lmao as someone who has never lived in a metro, idk

[foggy perch]

only attractive people at any tech company are the HR folk

fact

depends, the more technical they are, the lower the attractiveness

[livid yew]

I mean if you count the suburbs of Chicago as Chicago, then sure

but that is pushing it

[foggy perch]

simple equation really

[livid yew]

I'd move to LA

[jaunty basalt]

the LA office is the one that was a hangar right

[livid yew]

do you currently live in LA?

[jaunty basalt]

yeah it looks sick

[livid yew]

I would not mind a 30-45min commute

like bus/metro/subway

oof

yeah I could stand an our on a train

but bus

nah

it gets better with LA 2028

[weak latch]

you guys think i'll have a chance with PLTR to pass the karat if i solved 2/3 questions but got 1 of the first runtime questions totally wrong and then the runtime of my final solution for Q2 totally wrong 😂

or is it time to give up hope

[livid yew]

I mean I start work at 9am every day, and am awake by 7:30am at the latest so 🤷

[weak latch]

basically any runtime question that had recursion i got it wrong

[smoky lodge]

I’m a senior cs student with a high gpa and I still cannot handle recursion

no this is actually serious

[gray dagger]

Yeah recursion sucks

[smoky lodge]

like i can do recursion problems but it aint ez

[gray dagger]

Use stacks

[livid yew]

recursion in practice is nice

you think I remember anything from my math or discrete classes

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[weak latch]

facts

i can write recursive code but i don't understand it

[livid yew]

if it works, you don't need to understand it

[jaunty basalt]

thats how you met selena right?

[smoky lodge]

"just think about"

[kind galleon]

ya and induction is just recursion

[smoky lodge]

bad news guys

my recruiter told me bloomberg is done

[winter loom]

were you in the interview loop for it?

like how did they tell you

did she just cancel your upcoming interview or what

[latent sun]

fax

I got my phone scheduled for august 15th today

[winter loom]

bruhhh

i have my onsite on 9/13 but idk if its even worth studying now

they havent reached out to me to tell me its canceled

whyd they even interview you if they were filled

[latent sun]

wdym? bloomberg is done hiring

[latent sun]

yeah idk

[neat shore]

Breh I interviewed last Tuesday

Still havre heard back

@winter loom u rocking with this ⁉️

[azure zephyr]

companies that do things like this (interviewing after headcount) don't give af about our time lol

[neat shore]

How did they finish so early. Their apps opened mid august

[lapis cove]

they are trolling bro

bloomberg is not closed

[winter loom]

theyre wasting time too thats wack as hell

[neat shore]

Bloom is prolly slowing down

No way they finished hiring in 2 wells

Weeks

[smoky lodge]

Aww buddy you mad

[old smelt]

this guy needs to be banned lol too many people believe him

[neat shore]

My recruiter told me Amazon is done and is rescinding intern return offers

[small mountain]

[smoky lodge]

you'd think people would stop falling for it after 31 jokes

one of my life goals was to have sex with the queen of england so this is a collosal L

[outer radish]

No

Shot

Bloomberg is done

Or im pulling up to nyc rn to have a talk 😤😤😤

[dire yarrow]

My recruiter told me Bloomberg is done

[small mountain]

shut up cokehead

[floral plank]

All companies are done hiring

[dire yarrow]

And then they killed themselvees

[floral plank]

No more new grad roles sorry

[outer radish]

[solemn crag]

My recruiter told me iphone15 specs

[floral plank]

Yeah we already know

[small mountain]

they gave me all the offers my bad y'all

[neat shore]

On a serious note I had my phone bloom interview last Tuesday but still haven’t heard back. Emailed my recruiter and nothing. Is this normal ?

[smoky lodge]

my recruiter told me Atlassian is done

[solemn crag]

My recruiter told me usa is done

[small mountain]

[ornate cliff]

Come to Canada... ez 60k

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me the economy is done

[small mountain]

psh 60k canadian is like 20k usd

[smoky lodge]

i haven't seen Wini the Pooh since i was like 5 what episode is this from

[sage sluice]

im trynna apply to amazon rn and i think its using a resume i uploaded last year for a different application

anyone know how to change that

[solemn crag]

My recruiter told me there is a hc in UK because the person in that position just passed away

[quick wraith]

My recruiter told me to kill my self 🐐

[exotic lintel]

is this true

[ornate cliff]

don't play with my heart

[exotic lintel]

🥹

i was planning the next 10 steps if this is true

[grizzled bronze]

My recruiter told me Coinbase is posting new grad next week

[lapis cove]

meta is at a uiuc career fair next week but might be just for intern

[exotic lintel]

my recruiter told me you guys are nice people

[small mountain]

whats hc

[ornate cliff]

my recruiter told me to do my best 🙂

[exotic lintel]

hiring committee

we should ban tiktok from US, everyone know they are listening

[livid yew]

tiktok is so stupid lol

I can never wrap my head around the format

[ornate cliff]

tiktok is evil genius...

[dire yarrow]

Interviewer is gonna be American tho

[small mountain]

that'll show em

[ornate cliff]

brain dead format that makes way too much money

[livid yew]

maybe If had used Vine in HS I would enjoy tiktok now

[exotic lintel]

honestly i dont use that much tiktok so idk what kind of content they provide

i have an idea

[livid yew]

I re-install the app every couple months for like 5min

same with Instagram and Twitter

then get bored

and delete social media lol

[exotic lintel]

same, i simp for asian girls

[livid yew]

like I made some random YT comment the other day, some dude responds that it was offensive to him

like bro

its the internet I dont give a fuck if I offend you lol

[late kestrel]

anyone know when enron ng is gonna b out

[jaunty basalt]

[outer radish]

how tf do aall ya'll mfs have recruiters

google recruiter told me to check the job site 💀

[exotic lintel]

they called me

[exotic lintel]

u prob have shit resume

/j

[outer radish]

they told me to get amazon on my resume

then i got amazon and now they aint want it

[rare jetty]

Has anyone received a palantir offer? Can they share the TC breakdown?

[lapis cove]

proof or ban

[smoky lodge]

Proof or ban

[rare jetty]

didnt snap stock drop like an insane amt and they are still recruiting for new grad lmfao

[jaunty basalt]

Better.com told me to apply next week

[sonic coral]

Wait wtf is this real

[jaunty basalt]

That’s why it’s the best

It’s too real

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter told me coinbase is filing for bankruptcy next week

[green bronze]

LMFAO just tried my hand at a few junior positions and got denied on all of em

This shit is gonna be tuff season

[sonic coral]

My recruiter told me Safelite repair, Safelite replace

[green bronze]

Cisco said apply to NG not SWE 1😔😔

[slate bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-laser-eyes-angry-cat-cyclops-nara-gif-26030753

[sinful tendon]

my recruiter told me that if you or a loved one has been diagnosed with mesothelioma you may be entitled to financial compensation

[smoky lodge]

my recruiter just offered me a bag of cocaine as condolence does this mean i got the offer?

[calm shale]

plz give return offer

[urban gulch]

Wow I almost believed u

And then I read who sent the msg

[green bronze]

Anyone done the two sigma pipeline?

[serene nymph]

bro i wouldn't waste my time applying to coinbase honestly

and getting laid off randomly lol

[quick wraith]

Any international bros here

[serene nymph]

moi

probably many more lol

[quick wraith]

How’s the full time search going on?

[serene nymph]

also, not wasting time with atlassian, they said no sponsorship support

so far so good i think

the new postings channel helps a lot

im colecting codesignal things, stalling my processes as much as i can

[quick wraith]

Me too got a circle code signal

[stable wharf]

I feel like coinbase would be such a shitty company to work for

[serene nymph]

grinding lc

yea i got circle like a couple minutes after applying

but i wan linkedin 🥲

post ng plz

[quick wraith]

LinkedIn has opened for recruiting for 2023 grad?

[serene nymph]

dont think theyll post this year, afaik

[quick wraith]

Do you have any return offers ?

Thinking of accepting then renege next year

[serene nymph]

rn im just grinding lc and hoping google gives oa sometime soon

[quick wraith]

I will give up my kidney for a google OA

[serene nymph]

lool

[quick wraith]

Just give me a chance google senpai

[serene nymph]

i didnt get return offer, but i wasnt looking forward to working at amazon that much

[quick wraith]

I got an offer but worried the company will rescind or go bankrupt

[serene nymph]

if theyre small, probably reneging wouldnt be a great deal

[quick wraith]

It’s wayfair

[serene nymph]

ive heard that sometimes companies complain to universities' career departments though

not sure howd that play for f1

uhhh, idk, i dont think i can advise you lool

but if you dont trust the company, apply elsewhere

regarding reneging, idk, trust your heart LOL

i know amazon is hella petty, so im glad i didnt get a return offer

partially glad*

they may blacklist you and whatnot

[livid yew]

so renging is basically accepting offer then not doing it?

[serene nymph]

reneging is accepting and then emailing saying "sorry, im going elsewhere"

[livid yew]

but how do you even have time for that lol

most places want you to start within 1-2 months after accept

[serene nymph]

if youre an intern you have a quarter/semester to find new offers

[foggy perch]

Nah most new grad big tech has a lot of months

[livid yew]

I see

[foggy perch]

From start date vs offer letter tiven

Like people are getting new grad offers now when they don't graduate until may

[quick wraith]

I need to accept now and start working from June

[livid yew]

oh I always say 1mo lol, i dont wanna be jobless that long

[serene nymph]

yea

[livid yew]

btw I am 2020 grad, so I was curious how the current process works

[serene nymph]

companies secure the assets asap

amazon gives return offers 1 week after internship

and gives 1 week to accept lol

[livid yew]

cause I didn't know about LC or reneging when I graduted

[serene nymph]

they dont want you applying elsewhere

[rustic vessel]

Accept and reneg. If you reneg you don’t want to work there anyways

[livid yew]

tbh I am the kind of person to get 1-2 offers and then be good lol

[foggy perch]

Monkey paws moment, time for you to pass google interview, but never escape team match hell

[livid yew]

like I cant be always job searching

[serene nymph]

i also am pretty focused

i like to find a couple companies i like and apply

i dont apply everywhere loll

[foggy perch]

Idk I just optimize for the highest paying job I can achieve rn

[serene nymph]

^ that too

[quick wraith]

Why does this happens anyway?

Need to kiss ass of the team members ?

[foggy perch]

Google has bad hiring process that they don't need to change bc plenty of people circle jerk it

[serene nymph]

bc google is drinking the cool aid and has a tedious team match process lol

amazon just randomly puts you somewhere lol

[quick wraith]

So you interview again with the team members ?

[livid yew]

big tech HR is just a cluster fuck tbh

[rustic vessel]

Sometimes teams aren’t interested in you

[foggy perch]

Yes and it's random if any teams decide to interview you

Or if there is even headcount

[serene nymph]

headcount and interest

ive also heard theres something like an algorithm

[quick wraith]

Inefficient system

[livid yew]

don't they verify headcount before posting the position though?

[serene nymph]

like if youre ex amazon or ex meta you can only go to certain teams

from all these horror stories ive heard lately, currently they dont check headcount before posting lol

[livid yew]

bro wtf

thats dumb

[serene nymph]

exactly

[foggy perch]

If I can get companies that pay equal to Google there's a 0% chance I ever interview with Google again with how shit team match is lmao

[serene nymph]

google is kind of a mess rn

[livid yew]

Google pay would be nice

but for me, not worth the stress rn

[quick wraith]

Honestly Netflix > google so Netflix senpai give an OA please

[serene nymph]

they pay very well, but application is a true pain in the ass

[foggy perch]

Google pay is nice but it's not that unique anymore imo

[serene nymph]

no, netflix fires on the spot

not good for f1

[foggy perch]

Ah

[quick wraith]

Seriously?

[serene nymph]

google is for stability

[foggy perch]

Idk any visa stuff

[exotic lintel]

i want google

[serene nymph]

yea, netflix is 100% cash 100% fire on the spot

no pip no dev plan lol

[exotic lintel]

if i have google i can flex with my friends

[livid yew]

lmao

nobody cares about your job

[exotic lintel]

my friend doesnt know about netflix (they dont live in USA)

[quick wraith]

Only reason to join google

[livid yew]

flexing is such a zoomer concept

[foggy perch]

Meh to me HFT or High paying unicorns > Google

[livid yew]

like bruh

[exotic lintel]

im gonna flex my salary too 😤

[foggy perch]

Same

Lmao

[exotic lintel]

u are stuck with Google ?

[serene nymph]

google is messy rn

[livid yew]

I could not give less fucks about any other humans daily life lol

[serene nymph]

google cloud is aws basically

[exotic lintel]

lol

damn sorry man

[livid yew]

this is what I want tbh

[foggy perch]

Same

Netflix hiring bar so much higher tho

[serene nymph]

and its hard to get a promotion in google not cloud apparently

[livid yew]

like I am too lazy to deal with stocks and RSUs lol

[serene nymph]

bro nobody wants this lol

itll wear you off eventually

[livid yew]

all cash?

[exotic lintel]

well they just started hiring new grad so prob not in a hurry .. maybe they will change

[serene nymph]

cant perform at 100% everyday

yea netflix is 100% cash

[livid yew]

yeah

I would rather have that

[exotic lintel]

so like no bonus ?

[serene nymph]

yea its better than a ridiculous vesting schedule

[livid yew]

no you get bonus

[serene nymph]

bonus comes as cash

[livid yew]

yeah

[exotic lintel]

agree

[serene nymph]

amazon has an abusive esting schedule

[livid yew]

maybe I have a warped mindset from always working hourly jobs lol

[exotic lintel]

🤔

[gray niche]

very abusive

[livid yew]

depends

[gray niche]

5% is crazyyy lmfao

[exotic lintel]

just fire them before they reach 1st year. no stock for them

😘

[kind galleon]

serious q

[serene nymph]

shits crazy

[kind galleon]

what's stopping companies from j doing that

[livid yew]

what do you define as 100% @serene nymph

[serene nymph]

100% is 100% lol

[livid yew]

no

like

[serene nymph]

companies can do whatever their reptiloid ceos want

i never trusted facebook

[livid yew]

100% effort, like what does that mean to you specifically @serene nymph

[serene nymph]

i had a feeling the would fail sooner or later lol

[exotic lintel]

uhm bad morals for the team ? unjust firing ?

[modest cloak]

does optiver give extensions for OA?

[serene nymph]

that depends on you and the base expectations

[livid yew]

true

[serene nymph]

at amazon, the base can be pretty high

[modest cloak]

I got in a car accident and Akuna wont give me extension sadly

[serene nymph]

f

[livid yew]

f

[modest cloak]

idk if i should talk to optiver

[exotic lintel]

so many ppl hate Zuker

[serene nymph]

hope ure good man

[livid yew]

I think I usually exceed 100% daily effort

[modest cloak]

no big deal but i just had to take care of my car :/

[livid yew]

but I am one of those nerds who would do software engineering for less pay

[serene nymph]

i dont hate him, but i dont trust him lool

[exotic lintel]

will insurance pays ? start collecting evidences

[serene nymph]

go to amazon

ull learn ure correct or terribly wrong lol

[exotic lintel]

last time i have flood cause pipe burst, my insurance pay over 5k

[livid yew]

yeah I plan to re-apply to Zon sometime next year

prob in Spring

[serene nymph]

best of luck

[exotic lintel]

i applied to AmazonCare and Amazon will shut AmazonCare down end of this year 😂

[livid yew]

lol

[modest cloak]

i only have to pay for deductible

[livid yew]

like I don't know maybe your right

[exotic lintel]

noice

[livid yew]

but I like to think my 4 years of retail sales work gave me good work ethic

[serene nymph]

the thing is hard work aloen doesnt always cut it

[open blade]

Does anyone know if there are Meta job postings for new grad?

I'm looking, and I don't see any

Is the hiring freeze still ongoing?

[livid yew]

I mean I did spend like 2 hours today doing work that was not even on my weekly tickets lol

but I see what u mean

[exotic lintel]

yes

[serene nymph]

yea, idk, everyones different as well, but amazon is really performance focused and cutthroat

probably other high paying companies as well

[livid yew]

idk prob do fine

[serene nymph]

yup

[livid yew]

the money is not a factor for me really

[serene nymph]

yup, everyones got different incentives

but let me know how it goes, hoping the best for you

[livid yew]

yeah my current 135K TC in MCOL is fine for now lmao

[serene nymph]

nice

[quick wraith]

Is Austin MCOL?

[livid yew]

idk

maybe

[serene nymph]

bro meta may go bankrupt soon lool

not a bad idea to jump ship

but a good sailor sinks with their ship

[outer radish]

yo this actually killed me

[serene nymph]

return is 240k base?

wtf?

whats ge?

ohhh

whats base?

[foggy perch]

isn't the thing this semester that only GE are getting return offers?

or did I hear wrong

[serene nymph]

meets expectations is 240k? f

[foggy perch]

F

[serene nymph]

at amazon all return offers are like 190k i think

or 185

[outer radish]

wait is this for seattle?

[serene nymph]

yea

[outer radish]

cause return interns in van are 160 tc

[serene nymph]

for bay probably 210

yea its like 180-19

but all return get the same salary

no, just one time 10k bonus

welp, it amazon lol

[west egret]

Customers

[livid yew]

nah

Facebook has money

metaverse? yes that is a passing fad

[bronze estuary]

Didn’t know how to find optimal solution for this

[rare jetty]

i got 210k for amazon bay area

return offer

anyone know palantir new grad tc

been asking around but all these people are pussies and don't wanna reveal their TC

[green bronze]

this got me crying

@jagged ravine how come u aint call him out for this

[elder hull]

does deshaw give less than cit?

I thought deshaw would be richer

[livid yew]

not bad

facebook, the parent company still has cash

sorry *meta, fucking zoomers and their political correctness

[grim forge]

anyone know drw or citadel offer this year?

[simple elk]

i think its 220?

[autumn ridge]

This is what's on levels for the past month for new grad.

[gray niche]

im so dead 🤣 what do you gain from hiding your TC on an anon discord server lol

[livid yew]

true

like who cares tbh

what, I am going to track your personal info down from a single number

[autumn ridge]

idk it is palantir lol

[livid yew]

tbh Palantir would be cool

work in Denver

skiing all winter

[autumn ridge]

yeah i love the comp vs location I feel like Denver is perfect where theirs enough stuff to do but it's still realistic to buy a house some day

[livid yew]

denver is cool

[outer radish]

doesnt palentir deport people tho

[livid yew]

fuck if I know or care lmao

[outer radish]

money say jump i say how high

[calm shale]

What’s most exciting to you about Palantir and why do you want to work here? wtf did yall say for this

[serene nymph]

they pay 220k denver?

f thats like 300k bay lol

[serene nymph]

exaggerating, maybe 250k

[calm shale]

155 base + 45 stock + 30 signon + 10% perf bonus - @jagged ravine

[serene nymph]

doesnt matter

all that matters is getting a job

everything is secondary

[livid yew]

lmao ok basic white bitch tiktoker

nice

thats a lot of stress though

so much random BS on the internet

I see

[late kestrel]

ok but why max tc when u can sports bet

[livid yew]

damn OF not hiring SWES rn

[split plaza]

is there an LC tagged list I can grind for Palantir Karat

[latent sun]

my brothers in zuckerberg anyone have insights how wlb is for Old Mission?

[rustic vessel]

Take the oa first before asking

The oa is terrible

[dusky plover]

the one on LC has like 10 questions lmao

WE OFF DA GRID GRID GRID

[nocturne oriole]

@pulsar mural

dont react

to other users like that

disrespectful

[pulsar mural]

STOP

MAINE COON

[dusky plover]

bro

[nocturne oriole]

wow is that

simba

and scar

[dusky plover]

stop wazowski my lyrics

my kanye lyrics

[livid yew]

go the fuck to sleep @pulsar mural

[autumn ridge]

Do you need to be able to get a security clearance for palantir?

[foggy star]

From blind I saw that they offer a like 10k bonus if u have one but not needed

[mystic glacier]

Amazon vs. Atlassian new grad?

[grizzled bronze]

Atlassian

[mystic glacier]

That’s what I think too 😸

[lapis cove]

how much does atlassian pay

[mystic glacier]

Similar to Amazon

But I heard it’s much better in terms of WLB

[dusty basin]

It was mufasa bro

[potent cape]

has anyone here interviewed w glean before?

[weak latch]

is atlassian even open?

[ivory stratus]

yeeee

[mystic glacier]

Yes

[gilded vortex]

like glean search?

[potent cape]

yup! have a technical w them soon so was just wondering

[gilded vortex]

no idea, our company uses it so that's how I kinda know

gl

[potent cape]

ah gotcha ty 🙂

[fresh lagoon]

scio

[jaunty geyser]

long shot but anyone did codesignal for data analyst with c1

[gilded vortex]

sent codesignal so long ago

but for swe

no response

[jaunty geyser]

super confused if swe and data analyst code signal Q will be different

acc to online they ask you sql and python for data analyst and not LC algo

[gilded vortex]

makes sense

[jaunty geyser]

but idk what I should be preparing and focusing on LOL

[gilded vortex]

swe is using the General Coding Assessment test bank

[jaunty geyser]

which makes sense

also, if you have no work rights in US and you live in Europe (and have work rights there), can you work for a US company remotely

[weak latch]

is it tapia only still?

[lapis cove]

no

[weak latch]

Oh word

Send link

Actually wait I think I have a referral link somewhere

[lapis cove]

https://www.atlassian.com/company/careers/detail/977df53a-539d-4b6c-9fbf-0167d8ffd83b?trid=1e0b9127-2df6-4b3d-8bc4-d81ae332a601

[weak latch]

Thanks

Gonna apply tomorrow

Wait

Uhhhhh

Apparently gap sent me an OA on September 2nd 💀💀

And said do it in 3 days 💀💀

I didn’t even see it until now

[whole berry]

nice

[pure mauve]

Perfect HRT algo OA and then goes to reject

Sadge

[formal fable]

Such is HRT

[whole berry]

damn

dont feel too confident going into this zon final

might as well grab that fries salter app

[formal fable]

You went past OA? When did you give your OA?

[neat shore]

Lmao my codesignal score got disqualified (I was on another website for like 5 mins). I was doing goofy shit last last codesignal but it still got validated. Do you think I can email Netflix asking for a codesignal re do ?

[vast rock]

Wtf i got rejected after palantir HR call what the actual fuck

I have never heard of someone doing that

How in the world

[rain patio]

I know like 4 people that have gotten rejected after pltr hr call

[vast rock]

“Thank you so much for your interest in Palantir. After careful consideration, we regret to inform you that we do not have a position which currently matches your background and experience at this time.”

But because of what?

My behavioral skills aren’t bad at all i had so many freaking behaviorals lately

[neat shore]

Palantir is almost filled

[rain patio]

I think pltr is just really picky with behavioral

[vast rock]

And Facebook plus amazon with full stack plus ML plus distributed systems not enough for background and experience? I mean like it’s not that crazy but I expect myself get rejected in HM round or something if anything

[vast rock]

But in what way? I feel like she didnt ask me anything. It was like tell me about yourself. Then asked about why palantir then its just q&A lol

[rain patio]

Maybe your why pltr wasn’t strong enough

I can’t say cuz I don’t know what happened in the call lol

[vast rock]

Interesting… i thought that part was bad lol cuz they asked me to write why palantir essay when applying

I just went with the same idea i wrote done since… well if it passed thru initial screening then ya know

[vast rock]

I feel like this could be why as well

Cuz the person that referred me said the same thing

[latent sun]

What the fuck

i got rejected from datadog but got their offer last year ☠️☠️☠️

[static moth]

yo 💀

[latent sun]

RESUME REJECT

WHAT

what happened my boy sojin was backing me up 😿

[static moth]

fwiw, they havent even given the return offer numbers yet for all the return interns (were supposed to be given mid august lmao). so delays all around

probably lower headcount for ng too then

but resume reject is weird if u got the offer last year lmao

[latent sun]

yeaaah 😦

i mean atleast keep me in the loop this was one of my shots for NYC

not get rejected

[static moth]

[wicked pendant]

i also have strong behavioral skills imo and didnt pass hr call, it was in june so they werent even full

i think for me it was bc i wasnt specific in my answers about what i wanna work on and stuff

bc idk what i wanna do lol

[gaunt crescent]

No Visa sponsorship 😦

[prime palm]

Oh

Holy duck

[static moth]

next week ya

just delays all around

i wish not a quant daddy like u

ya i think

[candid juniper]

@coarse quiver , you interned at JPMC, right?

they sponsored your visa or you already had work auth?

[neat shore]

Just sent an email to Netflix asking for a re take cause my codesignal score was not able to be verified. Do you think I have a chance at a re take

[late kestrel]

just finished my bloomberg phone, not sure if i did good enough. if its any consolidation, my $10 to win $275 on the bills game yesterday hit 🙂

[pastel bane]

I'm curious, for interviews, do they give you scores for every independent question and add them up? Or is the score based on the overall performance?

[cedar gulch]

oh okay, so let’s say if you make it to a final EM round, can you still be rejected after that based on like your phone screen or first technical?

[tardy mica]

it depends

if there are many qualified candidates, they may further filter on previous interview results

[buoyant fable]

waking up to a duolingo rejection email followed by another duolingo email telling me to take a french lesson on their app

[frank wedge]

Uhhh how were the odds that large?

No way it was greater than like +300

[pastel bane]

thank you!
may I ask why you are pretty sure about it?

[clever orbit]

how common are dp questions?

[formal fable]

Per interview, there's not a strict criteria of per question scoring as there's no consistent number of problems or questions being asked. That being said, each interviewer gives feedback on your performance for their round.

In some cases, the feedback is used to eliminate at each round, in which case only the last interview's feedback matters. In most cases, the feedback from onsite from multiple rounds is cumulatively considered, with obvious limits such as no bad ratings (veto for bad performance), and the overall accumulation of all feedback might impact the offer as well (at least for mid sized companies).

I've seen such a form (my friend worked for an ecommerce giant). It's a consensus across all rounds with multiple metrics being measured at each round.

[late kestrel]

6 leg parlay with a 40% odds boost lol

bills ML, allen 250+ pass yrds, bills 3.5+ TDs, bills 2+ pass TDs, kupp any time td, bills 3+ sacks

only ones that were close was kupp td and bills 3.5+ tds

everything else got blown up

[pastel bane]

thank you!

[late kestrel]

may have used all my luck this week. in that case, rip bb

[west egret]

bro I don't even hear back from WD return until later Sept or Oct lol

[vast rock]

interesting. is this just your guess?

I wonder if I can email HR to see what i can do to improve

like i actually really wanted this company out of all

[tribal falcon]

Has Plaid opened new grad apps

[wicked pendant]

yeah its jsut my guess

last year they told me i was a good culture fit and had good reasons for being interested in palantir so idt it was my why palantir

they gave feedback last yr so worth it to email

[vast rock]

oh darn cuz i really wanted to email

ty friend!

[floral plank]

they said they should be open by late august but they never did

[west egret]

Just me or is Tiktok's resume parser nice af?

I didn't have to adjust anything

[tribal falcon]

Damnb

I want to go to SLC

[surreal shuttle]

It is indeed nice

But i hate how they only allow us to apply for 2 jobs

[latent sun]

My mom said Google is done hiring

[west egret]

I generally only apply for one position per company. Do they normally allow you to mass apply to all of them?

[west egret]

Sept btw

[sonic coral]

Go to GS like slum lol

[kind galleon]

lmao do u get blacklisted for not accepting

damn

yield protecting

[coarse quiver]

Yep, jp sponsored me. There were actually quite a lot of interns from India at jp

[jaunty basalt]

Is this a thing

Cuz colleges ik do it for sure

[kind galleon]

it's a meme

from ya colleges

but there cud be potential

if like they kno for sure they can't compete w/ ur offers

it's mutually un-beneficial to proceed

[late kernel]

How high is SeatGeeks hiring bar lol, first auto rejection with two Apple internships 😢

[jaunty basalt]

How do they know though

[dry cedar]

for people who have 2023 NG offers, did you continue applying for jobs ...?

[rain patio]

at least you heard back
ive been applying to apple every year since 2019 never heard a peep from online app only via cold email

[waxen bolt]

Yes

[gray niche]

ofc

[lapis cove]

almost 2 weeks since my final

[formal fable]

Can some internationals here give their thoughts on the hiring practices of investment banks like JPMC or Goldman Sachs? I'm getting a feeling that there's automated rejection at play with their software dev positions.

[late kernel]

Apple's hiring process is team dependent. Every team has different standards and processes, cold emailing people on linkedin is the best way to go tbh

As of right now there is no headcount on my team, but could potentially open up in December, wanna get a backup offer jic

[tribal falcon]

Hell nah

[outer radish]

Yo is amazon on the resume not worth anymore tf

[late kestrel]

everyone slow rn i wouldnt worry too much

[late kestrel]

i kinda want GS to get back to me just cuz chicago

[rain patio]

is databricks just 1 technical phone before final?

[iron lily]

wdym? pretty sure the OA is auto for both

[spare summit]

When you cold messge people on linkedin, do you send them your resume right away?

[polar moat]

netflix new grad referral matters?

[formal fable]

So far it's been auto reject from them while easier OAs from FAANG and alike

[iron lily]

Goldman and JPMC don’t sponsor afaik

That could be the reason

[surreal shuttle]

yes

[formal fable]

That's why I specifically asked internationals to confirm