2023_grads

[teal jackal]

i know someone whos like 200k

[lament summit]

isnt chicago much cheaper than like boston/seattle

amazon sea offer is ~180

yeahh

[teal jackal]

tru

id still take akuna vs banana

[harsh ingot]

30 min recruiter phone followed by 1 hour technical

[lament summit]

then its final?

[lament summit]

i completed both

[serene fable]

Which hft firms pay the most? Presumably Jane Street and Two Sigma?

[lament summit]

two sigma doesnt pay alot

[lament summit]

jane street and HRT

[serene fable]

Forgot hrt, of course

[peak ferry]

HRT huge bank, cit also matches offers to some insane #s

[harsh ingot]

Well it’s like 3 1-hour technicals, then I think maybe a call with leadership

[weak latch]

what a horrific question lol

[lament summit]

dude some of the behav questions they asked are SO weird

[weak latch]

so weirdly worded

[harsh ingot]

I’m not sure what exactly comes after the virtual on-site but I’ll let u know if I advance

[lament summit]

kk

[harsh ingot]

Yeah seems like a strange company tbh

[weak latch]

and i lowkey didn't know what self did in python so xD

[lament summit]

3 1hr technicals damn

all lc?

[harsh ingot]

From what I’ve heard might be system design

[lament summit]

ah whew

[harsh ingot]

But they didn’t really specify

[weak latch]

99 leetcode problems

what should be my 100th

[lament summit]

@harsh ingot did u ace the tech

i did well, but i didnt ace cuz had a small bug

[peak ferry]

why do people meme this all the time? isn't it just a top sort

[weak latch]

good thing i have premium lol

oh shit its a hard

[late kestrel]

two city scheduling

its actually a half decent bb tagged

[pure mauve]

its rough out here bois

[weak latch]

bet this alien one looks hard asf

[lament summit]

wait its only yr1?

is there no bonus yr2?

[harsh ingot]

I had a small typo but besides that yeah

[lament summit]

o same

not typo but put a variable inside a for loop when it should b outisde

[peak ferry]

250 incudes probably 50 signon, recurring for the high rollers probably looks like 200. for me it's <200

[lament summit]

my interviewer was kewl

ex-riot

[lament summit]

how was the interview

[harsh ingot]

Mine was pretty cool too, ex-zon

[lament summit]

i have my phone coming up

[harsh ingot]

Seems like they have pretty talented engineers there if nothing else

[lament summit]

yeahh

for sure

she was ex-meta and ex-riot

[peak ferry]

I did cpp and it wasn't too bad in terms of LC, but I got merc'd on C++ details

[lament summit]

but still passed?

[peak ferry]

also they are the least talkative interviewers I've ever had

[teal jackal]

Nov 29 is my c1 interview

4 hour marathon

[lament summit]

thats so far away

[late kestrel]

3 months from now ouch

[teal jackal]

yeah it is

[peak ferry]

ya I figured out mooost of it during the interview. interviewer told me to look it up on cpp reference in the middle of the interview

[lament summit]

LMAO

[teal jackal]

i think power day is my only interview tho

[lament summit]

its just phone -> final right

phone is just python details

then final is LC?

[peak ferry]

yuh

[lament summit]

word

straight forward

[peak ferry]

and uh I did cpp phone

[lament summit]

yeah (language) details

[peak ferry]

not just details was solving problem which involved cpp details

[lament summit]

ohh

any multithreading?

[foggy perch]

yo people who've had amazon final

what type of lc do they usually do

and do they include dp

[lament summit]

completely rng

[foggy perch]

sad

[peak ferry]

personally didn't get asked that, dunno if it comes up in general

[lament summit]

okok

i want akuna

have amazon return so hopefully i can use that to get more monies

from akuna

[peak ferry]

probably not tbh 😢

[lament summit]

[foggy perch]

akuna wlb sounds rough tho

[peak ferry]

I was an amazon return & had similar tech offers and they're like naw we gucci

[lament summit]

damn

LOL same

did u do the front running detector

[peak ferry]

don't know what that is so probably not

[lament summit]

ngl i had a lot of fun in that OA and is why i wanna work at akuna

[whole berry]

about to post on linkedin like WHO WANT ME

[lament summit]

LOL

r u accepting

[peak ferry]

prooobably

[lament summit]

yessirrr

[peak ferry]

need to get rejected at cit first

[lament summit]

im just tryna collect all my offers

have like 5 interviews upcoming and im already tired

LOL

[peak ferry]

interviews fucking wear you out

[lament summit]

frfr

esp a rejection after a final

worse feeling ever

[peak ferry]

I do like 2/3 interviews on a final day and I'm like yup I'm done being productive for the day

[lament summit]

same

[gloomy terrace]

uhh did codesignal get much harder

[lament summit]

u just got bad rng luck

thats all

[gloomy terrace]

no like q3 suddenly timed out

and it was a lc hard

[late kestrel]

https://github.com/yhiumy/New-Grad-2023 this one was updating multiple times a day up till this past weekend so im hoping it comes back

pls come back mr yhiumy

[peak ferry]

idk I feel like I need to defend myself a little C++ shit language LOL -- I also pointed out a lang detail my interviewer got wrong bc shit complicated language

[lament summit]

That point out probably saves u

[peak ferry]

probably helped a decent amnt

I looked pretty clueless otherwise LOL

[teal jackal]

c++ moment

[peak ferry]

I'm always happy to rant about why C++ bad -- tho I should probably go back to reading about why C++ bad so I can try to not fail my next interviews

[dusty basin]

Lol

[weak latch]

W, 100 problems ✅

[lament summit]

xdd

[teal jackal]

xd

[teal jackal]

what problem is this?

[weak latch]

Two City Scheduling

[teal jackal]

wow

[stuck siren]

Anyone know what to expect for bloomberg final round (Engineering Manager round)

[old vector]

datadog hackerrank has 5 questions wtf

man im sick of OAs

[weak latch]

https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/77922753140662982-software-developer-early-career-campus/ canada google new grad, closes September 9th

[foggy perch]

lmao another 3 day window app opening

lmaoooo

[west egret]

Still can’t believe G is closed in US already.

[old vector]

ya same wtf

[foggy perch]

gotta be monitoring job openings 24/7

[west egret]

At least give me a chance to submit my resume that will get discarded

[teal jackal]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[peak ferry]

final 14th my deadline 16th

[oak patrol]

Is Optiver OA automated?

And will they sponsor visa?

[peak ferry]

asked and I'm waiting to hear back but they haven't responded in a couple days so I feel sus lol

oh wait just realized, not leadership, technical rounds

why are they so slow sadge

[vast gyro]

whats up 23 grads hows the new grad market right now?

[split plaza]

[worn drift]

Is the salesforce 2023 new grad application open?

[maiden fable]

guys is anyone here applying for machine learning engineer roles

[ivory stratus]

I honestly don't think it's that bad

[chilly burrow]

What does dis mean 🤔

[split plaza]

is Palantir first step a Hackerrank

[gray niche]

@novel rain Did you get final?

[prisma bay]

question everyone

does anyone know if Optiver is sponsoring international students?

[gray niche]

Yeah, I feel like their quick response/process time isn't the same anymore

[prisma bay]

Not sure if they do, since H-1B website says they only sponsored a handful of senior levels and quant traders for the past couple years

[fallen fox]

https://www.myvisajobs.com/Visa-Sponsor/Optiver/402166.htm dont think so

[pastel scarab]

No they don’t

[prisma bay]

but they are giving a bunch of OA's and even VO's

to internationals, like me

[fallen fox]

good oa practice i guess

[prisma bay]

so what will they do, give us an offer and ask do you need sponsorship we answer yes and they rescind offer?

[fallen fox]

you will fail background check most likely

[prisma bay]

well gg

[hexed grove]

You move on to technical round

[weak latch]

karat

[split plaza]

I just got a Hackerrank

[weak latch]

huh??? for palantir swe??

[split plaza]

yep

[weak latch]

no idea honestly, i guess the same time as the apm one

interesting, i didn't get a hackerrank at all for palantir i just got karat

[west egret]

Let's go! C1 recruiter contacted me on linkedin.

[midnight jetty]

I got this mail and heard back after 11 days for tech phone interview

[lament summit]

U get to skip hackerrank dependent on ur resume

[weak latch]

oh

nice

thank you jeffrey

[split plaza]

I am also ex-Jeffrey

yet still got Hackerrank

[weak latch]

interesting

i had one other part time internship on there

but it was a little local company so not sure how much weight that carries

[floral plank]

I got this before phone

[simple elk]

Gem L, Optiver L, Roblox L

L

[floral plank]

So many Ls and ghosts

[simple elk]

Prefer L to ghost, but it doesn't make for a good day

[floral plank]

Yea

[weak latch]

Ls to a company u really like hurt so bad

especially if its not a resume reject but an oa or final reject

[floral plank]

Yea

Also there are barely companies opening

[tired hollow]

RIP second interviewer didn't show up to my interview

[west egret]

Maybe they just pass you

[tired hollow]

😭

[static moth]

if anyone took their 1x30 recently how long did it take for portal update?

[gray niche]

yeah I just feel like it might be a bit harder to interview for FT positions during an internship

[iron lily]

is it possible for bloomberg to review resumes after rejecting me 2 weeks ago?

[west egret]

You just reminded me. Where’s Meek? 😢

[sinful tendon]

Thursday -> Monday

[iron lily]

i got an email that they're doing so for me, even though i got resume rejected on the 26th

[simple elk]

Just mald for Optiver because I submitted non optimal but came up with the 1 line difference for optimal a day late

[static moth]

did u do it last Thursday?

[sinful tendon]

No

[static moth]

ah ok yea I'm lookin for anyone who did it like within the last week

cuz apparently they're super backlogged

[sinful tendon]

not your guy for that

[static moth]

rip thanks anyways

[lavish laurel]

September 29th -> still waiting

[sinful tendon]

think I got in just in time

[west egret]

@static moth did you get your datadog return?

[static moth]

bro it's my backup trust me 😭

[static moth]

yessir

I get numbers next week

[floral plank]

He is in the C1 server

[west egret]

Oh is he just chilling on return offer?

[static moth]

I'm not a quant daddy like u

me too small brained

[west egret]

Ask for promotion to senior

[floral plank]

Not sure

[static moth]

nah I'm not yakhub

[west egret]

NYC is pog though

[static moth]

ya for sure

[somber tendon]

is there a significant difference in TC for intern-->FT vs new grad for trading firms?

[lament summit]

Levelsfyi will answer that for u

[somber tendon]

hm

is there a way to distinguish between people who converted their internship to FT vs just new grad?

[winter thistle]

when does the #new_grad_salary_sharing update?

[surreal shuttle]

No

[silk cape]

Anyone get 2/3 on palantir karat and move on?

[peak ferry]

Everyone says this but I just won’t renege

[formal fable]

How even? Levels just tells you level based compensation figure. No mention of internship conversion

[lament summit]

oops didn’t realize he was asking intern conversion

[lament summit]

I got 2 but answered 3 with pseudo and moved on

[peak ferry]

Trading firms pay is hugely variable. You have to talk with people to know what the norm is and what ranges look like

[lapis cove]

🏜️📧

[winter thistle]

similar to colleges, do companies do yield protection?

[peak ferry]

never heard of that being a thing sounds silly

[winter thistle]

why the fuck did duolingo reject me then

fuckers

[peak ferry]

I'll just drop cit if a deadline hits

[winter thistle]

duolingo pulling that yield protection bs

confirmed

[teal jackal]

Fuck salesforce tbh cockbaiting us with their listings but "current or prior intern only"

[wind drum]

duolingo just has a high hiring bar lol

[winter thistle]

nah

yield protection

[teal jackal]

Duolingo unironically cares about school prestige

[peak ferry]

renege hurts my soul I just can't

[winter thistle]

is salesforce only giving FTE offers to current interns?

[teal jackal]

Foreseeably, yes

Unless someone here knows a salesforce recruiter

Who can comment if new grad will be open for general public at some point

[west egret]

Do they generally open up NG apps for long? Or is it mostly returning interns?

[sinful tendon]

I talked with one early august and was told mid to late august and now here we are

[teal jackal]

did u specify "general public" or nah

aka anyone whos never worked at SF before

[fleet flame]

idk wtf is up with Bloomberg

I got the verbal offer in June. they say the official offer will be ready late july or early august

early august came along and no official offer. reached out to my recruiter and he said by end of august

now he is saying by end of september

bruh i fucking waited for 3 months now. they keep pushing back the timeline for the official offer

[old smelt]

i think they're still figuring out new grad comp

[fleet flame]

asked other people about what their recruiters said and shit is all over the place

[fleet flame]

idt it was ever like this in previous years

[somber hamlet]

When u applied?with refer?

[normal palm]

Bruh that’s wack

[deft crow]

Anyone know if TikTok asks tagged questions often?

[fossil jewel]

bombed codesignal bc family loud

free rent do be nice tho

[west egret]

I know that feel

[smoky lodge]

PREACH

[west egret]

Except I think I would have missed q3 and q4 even if it was quiet.

[fossil jewel]

questions werent even that bad, just had issues gathering my thoughts

[floral plank]

It happens

[primal pike]

nyc?

[floral plank]

Isn’t that only for interns?

[fossil jewel]

i alr live in nyc

[fleet flame]

Yeah

[fossil jewel]

neat

[smoky lodge]

i negotiated a 75k salary into a 475k salary so yall have no excuses

[fossil jewel]

smh its not 500k so not good enough

[smoky lodge]

btw y'all

just heard back from my recruiter

Amazon is DONE

D

O

N

E

your dreams of being whipped by Bezos are just that

dreams

[fossil jewel]

oh well good thing i got the L on the code signal

[normal palm]

Wdym?

[fossil jewel]

im not going to the south lmao

[smoky lodge]

[late kestrel]

ive always wanted to work in argentina

[fossil jewel]

daddy bezos wants ppl to work in the warehouse so better get that leetcode grind on to deliver prime

[smoky lodge]

ok

the Zucc has new combat feats

he's training MMA

and looks decent

can he beat Bezos in a fight

[languid charm]

done ?

[smoky lodge]

Freezing hiring

[languid charm]

so they won't process any application ? what about scheduled process ?

[languid charm]

you got offer or they have put you in waitlist ?

[smoky lodge]

D.O. N. E.

[normal palm]

Yessir

[peak ferry]

read the dude's name

[smoky lodge]

[smoky lodge]

19th time making the joke in 7 days and still just as effective

[languid charm]

are you serious ???

[smoky lodge]

If I put 100% troll in my name people do you think people would still fall for it @peak ferry

[smoky lodge]

50/50

[peak ferry]

bruh I didn't think people would still fall for it now

[fossil jewel]

50/50 is just 1, 100% chance of you getting trolled lmao

[glad thunder]

Has anyone done Microsoft codility

[smoky lodge]

I’m not even switching the company just saying Amazon lmao

[smoky lodge]

It’s been two weeks and I haven’t heard back from MSFT yet

[glad thunder]

I just got it today and I applied like the day it came out

[smoky lodge]

~27 times

Btw atlassians new grad SWE link is up

[ripe marsh]

That’s so cap I got an OA yesterday

[maiden torrent]

@smoky lodge thought u were trolling and i double checked

[teal jackal]

Shit

[maiden torrent]

u r indeed not trolling

[floral plank]

When did you apply?

[teal jackal]

Y'all getting OAs for Microsoft?

Fuck

[maiden torrent]

https://www.atlassian.com/company/careers/detail/977df53a-539d-4b6c-9fbf-0167d8ffd83b atlassian link is up

[teal jackal]

Crickets for me rn

[ripe marsh]

Like a week ago

[teal jackal]

I applied a few weeks ago

[smoky lodge]

yep

[west egret]

I applied today

[smoky lodge]

Atlassian is open now

[teal jackal]

I hope Microsoft rolls out OAs in phases

[smoky lodge]

see this is the fun part

some times im serious and giving good advice

but you cant tell

[gray dagger]

How the fudge

[floral plank]

Applied two weeks ago

[maiden torrent]

hahahaha bruh

ur the worst <3

[ripe marsh]

Aug 29 is when I applied

[floral plank]

Applied on the 19th

[gray dagger]

I applied on 4th lmao

With a referral 😮‍💨

Still nothing

[ripe marsh]

Well then ig they’re not really going in order lmao

bastards

[gray dagger]

I guess I’m shadow banned or something

[floral plank]

Maybe by experience?

[gray dagger]

I didn’t hear from them for the internship either

[floral plank]

Sophomore year I heard back after six months and last year I heard back in a week

[maiden torrent]

@floral plank what company?

[gray dagger]

Yeah well I interned at a unicorn this summer and worked full time for about 6 months at a fortune 50 company prior 🥹

[floral plank]

Amazon

[maiden torrent]

just wait a while

[gray dagger]

It really is rng

Lmao

[maiden torrent]

every year amazon is rather delayed in responding to people because they have to calculate headcount based off of

how many people accept/reject return offers

[floral plank]

I could see more accepting return offers this year

[maiden torrent]

yea way more

last summer its like

hella people got intern offers or intern return offers and rejected em for Meta Lol

[floral plank]

It is a very competitive season this year

[gray dagger]

The worst part is that I keep getting emails from Amazon recruiters but they don’t reply back 💀

[maiden torrent]

very veyr competitive yea

[ripe marsh]

So is that Lyft (all teams, all levels) listing for new grads or nah

Title sounds like yea but description says 5+ years experience

Weirdos

[gray dagger]

No idea never heard back from em

[floral plank]

I think Lyft doesn’t hire new grads

[smoky lodge]

oh what's that? you weren't able to get 5 whole years of experience while doing your degree?

lmao

what a pleb

[fossil jewel]

they had the apm program but not swe

[prime palm]

@fleet flame ayo

can I dm

[chilly burrow]

Ppl who reneg Amzn r so selfish

Smh

[peak ferry]

Y tho more spots for people later lol

[chilly burrow]

Bezos cries over every reneg

He has to wipe his tears with $100 bills 🥺

[peak ferry]

shit maybe renege good u changed my mind

[smoky lodge]

"NOOO DON'T RENEGE IT'S BAD FOR YOUR CAREER"

people who don't care and do it anyway:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[peak ferry]

renege literally the easy way out smdh

[fleet flame]

Sure

[smoky lodge]

in theory it supposedly ensures you'll never work for that company ever again

[peak ferry]

varies but that’s the worst case. allegedly amazon doesn’t care that much

[grand barn]

Wouldnt think amazon would care. They need the numbers lol

[peak ferry]

I mean honestly it’s a bit silly bc it encourages reneging if u have that reputation but whatever I’m not losing sleep over bezos

[smoky lodge]

im losing sleep over bezos

i would love to work hard for such a chad

[peak ferry]

that’s fucking great

[smoky lodge]

bruh my SWE intern application to Yahoo from Freshman year is still "under consideration"

[hasty birch]

And in theory it doesn't matter since you're choosing another company over it anyway. There's really no downside to reneging imo, as long as you know that you didn't really want to work there in the first place

[peak ferry]

well if it’s not a shit company u might want to go back. also the boomer mentality is reputational damage which I haven’t actually seen substantiated but maybe

I just don’t as a matter as principle— maybe I’d renege some truly dogshit companies but no one I have an iota of respect for

[serene fable]

What about going to a job and only working a bit before leaving? Is that as bad as reneging?

[peak ferry]

idk haven’t heard about that much, I don’t think it’s wise to do that to avoid reneging

Also what’s a little bit?

[serene fable]

Maybe 3 months or so

Not sure if that's too small a gap to switch jobs over

[peak ferry]

pretty shifty, can’t say I have any good insight on it tho

[serene fable]

Does it get any more reasonable if it goes to 6 months or so?

[peak ferry]

maybe? I don’t think there are any hard and fast rules about this type of thing

[late kestrel]

thats the fun part. at will = no rules

[peak ferry]

legally ofc it’s just a question about if u care about potential burning bridges or not

I don’t think there’s even any moral compulsion to stay if u don’t like it

[ivory parrot]

Has Anyone been able to successfully negotiate amazon ng offer?

[west egret]

I mean legally they can’t include anything stopping you from reneging because it’s at will employment.

[peak ferry]

not a thing afaik

[serene fable]

It's just really inconvenient when you get responses from different employers at wildly different times

[teal jackal]

that means u got a chance bro

theyll send u a time machine to intern in summer 2020

[west egret]

No they give them intern offer when they’re working FT

[late kestrel]

bruh cmon lever captcha

[jaunty basalt]

This is the OA

Take ur time

[late kestrel]

[exotic lintel]

369

[fossil jewel]

got lost in yahoo mail

[late kestrel]

there was a second page too 🙂

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah usually there are two problems

Idk what company that’s for

[late kestrel]

lion engineering with amazon rainforest

theyre branching out into new animals

[rough vapor]

I have c1 tomorrow, wish me luck 😭 It's at 9 am, hopefully I won't fuck up case study or technical

[teal jackal]

Gl broski

What are the 3 rounds for c1 anyways?

Technical, behavioral and case study?

What is the case study?

[weak latch]

Love you too @normal palm

[rough vapor]

no fucking idea what case study is

it's different for TIP and TDP

for TIP they MIGHT throw some shit code and ask you to fix it

for TDP they ask you to design a full stack app/system (abstractly)

but I know some people got asked TDP variant for TIP....

so I have no idea what I should expect lol

[teal jackal]

What's tdp vs tip?

Shit

[dense tulip]

anyone take bloomberg on-site interview ?

[teal jackal]

That sounds stressful

[rough vapor]

TDP is full time

after grad

undergrad

TIP is their SWE internship

[jaunty basalt]

yeah you only get the tip for intern

[teal jackal]

ah

i get that

[sour canopy]

headlands is doing virtual for me fwiw

old mission was in-person though, can confirm

[jaunty basalt]

damn omc is in person

[sour canopy]

I think you're given the option to do remote too

[jaunty basalt]

hmm ok

[sour canopy]

one person I know did remote

[jaunty basalt]

a recruiter reached out

not that im doing it

[sour canopy]

too bad we both got ghosted after the on-site

[jaunty basalt]

[sour canopy]

this is even after they emailed saying they want to go over feedback

[empty thorn]

how was the omc final?

[sour canopy]

prepare by studying linux/systems/networking

it was very conversational

[empty thorn]

how was the time length? also what resources did u use to study if u dont mind me asking

[sour canopy]

I just looked up youtube videos

2 x 45

[empty thorn]

wow that's really not that long for having u come onsite lol

[small mountain]

if you put OMC on your resume an unsuspecting recruiter will think you meant IMC and didnt check for typos and reject you

[peak current]

Hey Everyone! I had Amazon's final 30 minutes interview last Tuesday and it says in the email that I will hear back in five business days but the portal still says Under Review and haven't gotten any email. Does anyone know what's going on or if you interviewed with Amazon last week did you hear back from them yet?

[lament summit]

just send them a followup

[marble bronze]

Are you able to provide me some insight on the interview process? Like rounds of interviews you went through? Super appreciate it 💛

For at&t*

[jaunty basalt]

its been a while

i think it was phone screen

then a "take home" which i bs together, u go over that with an engineer and then a behavioral interview with a manager

[marble bronze]

🤔

I've done an OA, and now I have a 30 minute coming up

[jaunty basalt]

im not sure if i remember an oa

[marble bronze]

The take home was a design question, part of the OA

[maiden torrent]

Has it been 5 business days?

What day u interviewed

Did u get “moved to another job” on your portal ?

[sour canopy]

how do you cope with an 8-hour long onsite bruh

[pallid kernel]

its been 8 business days for me with no update

very sadge

[peak current]

Yes. I interviewed on 8/30 and the portal still says under review

[harsh ingot]

@peak current I interviewed on 8/29 with 1x30 and am in the same situation

[clever orbit]

Omc

[peak current]

Yeah. I emailed them today lets see if they reply.

[lucid otter]

if anyone here got an intuit 2023 new grad offer, did you try negotiating it?

[clever orbit]

What is omc*

[empty thorn]

old mission capital

[shell fern]

should I apply to this again since it's on the official website or is the Tapia link good enough https://www.atlassian.com/company/careers/detail/977df53a-539d-4b6c-9fbf-0167d8ffd83b?trid=1e0b9127-2df6-4b3d-8bc4-d81ae332a601

[normal palm]

how'd you guys find out atlassian was open?

[dark cloak]

Has anyone done a Microsoft codility yet? How’d it go?

[teal jackal]

microsoft resume reject?

holy shit

how bad is my resume

[polar moat]

Can we reschedule amazon final?

[untold lava]

anyone do palantir phone screen? i failed last year any tips?

[polar moat]

I provided availability but got confirmation today for tomorrow morning’s interview

Is it possible to reschedule it?

[ivory stratus]

I have to do mine by next Wednesday lol I’ll let you know how it goes

[teal jackal]

holy shit

am i blacklisted by half the industry?

I have had the worst resume screening luck imaginable

I'm planning on takign an extended break from leetcode to do projects
my resume clearly isn't passing me

no point in leetcoding if there's nothing to leetcode for

[peak current]

I think they explicitly say in the email that rescheduling would be difficult.

[dreamy cliff]

have you posted your resume in #resume ?

[teal jackal]

yeah

[normal palm]

send resume nao

[dreamy cliff]

im no resume expert but ill try to help brb

[teal jackal]

yeah

[ivory stratus]

Yeah

[peak current]

I applied to Microsoft as soon as the application was opened (with a referral). Haven't heard from them yet.

[polar moat]

Yeahh. But is it possible to move it to next week or something?

[lament summit]

referral is useless (from what ive herad)

[teal jackal]

^

[chilly burrow]

Most ppl haven't

[teal jackal]

they wont tell u if u got resume reject

u have to manually check

[dreamy cliff]

i think the feedback they gave you is good, imo rewording your bullet points will help out a lot of you havent already

[teal jackal]

what feedback?

[dreamy cliff]

the stuff smof23 said

[teal jackal]

i revised my resume with that advice

i tried to focus more on impact with my most recent edition

[pallid quarry]

yeah I also just have bad luck this time

[normal palm]

companies nowadays have the highest expectations lool

[pallid quarry]

Last year my resume was bare bones and I heard back from all these companies for internships and this year with Amazon and another big tech i am getting resume rejected from them

[normal palm]

it's crazy out there

[normal palm]

what's ur other big tech out of curiosity?

[pallid quarry]

LinkedIn

[normal palm]

oh jeeez

[teal jackal]

i hope i spend all my bad RNG this month and get good RNG ssoon

Resume rejected with linkedin on your resume?

holy crap

[pallid quarry]

yeah it's sad

I have palantir onsite later this month and just hoping I pass that, I'm not in any other interview processes

[teal jackal]

All I have is C1

[marble bronze]

Damn that's rough

[coral relic]

Genuinely I think a lot of rejects for good resumes are just shit parsing

[marble bronze]

I just want something though, 0 expectations lmao

[teal jackal]

microsoft lowballs without good negotiation leverage anyways

whatever

[coral relic]

But obv resume rejects are instant so the good ones will come in later

[teal jackal]

they still pay 5 figures in atlanta 😂

🥜

[normal palm]

yoo it was so weird

i changed my linkedin header to include "senior" and i got insta-rejected from Riot Games internship LOL

[teal jackal]

i wish riot games hired new grads

they get 100% of new grad headcount from interns

sucks for us....

[marble bronze]

Senior intern

Staff intern

[normal palm]

loll

[sinful tendon]

100% it is. msft has said as much

[latent sun]

Resume reject from Yext even with 2 big tech on resume wtf

[marble bronze]

If they so much as look at my resume with referral I'm fine with that

The fuck is Yext

[normal palm]

bruhhh i HAVE to see that resume lol

[latent sun]

I'll send it

[digital osprey]

lmk if I posted this in the wrong channel to post this in -> but wondering what ppls thoughts are of this situation
-> my current internship came back with a return offer (bank in midwest)
-> but I'm set to graduate until 05/2023 (could possibly push to 12/2023 to try to squeeze in another season but idk) -> should I just accept it or should I try for another round of internships / new grad roles?
-> This is my only internship -> don't really have much else and guess I'm just worried about trying to land a tech job later in the future

[marble bronze]

Start applying now

[digital osprey]

new grad?

or internships?

[teal jackal]

having Amazon on resume feels like a minimum now, not a plus

this year is brutal

[marble bronze]

New grad, I'm doing something similar. Tiny company internship, just going full force on new grad

[teal jackal]

people said 2023 grad search would be a cakewalk with amazon on my resume

[normal palm]

im kinda in the same situation where i want to sneak another internship in but i dont want to extend my grad date beyond 2023 summer

[marble bronze]

There's no guarantee pushing back your grad date will make it any better

[teal jackal]

i realize that people stacking 7 internships with some fancy shmancy AI shit before graduating has FUCKED up the job market for tech

[prime palm]

@ me fam

[digital osprey]

yeah - I wasn't too sure on pushing back the grad date either

how has the new grad search been for y'all so far?

any sys design questions?

[teal jackal]

[digital osprey]

lmao

[teal jackal]

all i have is C1 in late november

3 resume rejects

[normal palm]

tbf if i had someone telling me to do anything besides lifeguarding in my first 2 years of uni i might've gotten somewhere lol

[prime palm]

2x faang + 1x unicorn

not many oas / interviews

i am a canadian looking to work in the states though, so needing visa sponsorship probably shoots me in the foot a little bit

[pallid quarry]

bad

[teal jackal]

if u can get more interviews than a US citizen, that means youre somewhat cracked
getting h1b shit still sucks tho

[prime palm]

canadians have it easier than H1B. we can get a 'TN' visa instead which is 100x easier

[pallid quarry]

does roblox sponsor? i think no right

[prime palm]

yes they do

[pallid quarry]

ok I'll do their OA then

I was pulling it off thinking they don't sponsor

[prime palm]

it's really rough

[pallid quarry]

codesignal right? like 830+?

and the cognitive shit

[digital osprey]

damn seeing all these "bad" responses got me thinking maybe I should just accept and move on

[lament summit]

pretty much all companies im interviewing with has at least 1 round of sys design

[pallid quarry]

Idk they're coming to my campus directly so recruiter invited me to an event, hoping its an easier process

[weak latch]

oh no are they sending out rejections? 😭

[teal jackal]

they dotn send, you have to check portal for it

[prime palm]

needing sponsorship

when there's so much talent companies can nab without needing to do extra paperwork

[teal jackal]

honestly i just recommend u dont bother check your portal

[prime palm]

i got insta rejected by databricks lol even though as an intern i got their interview

[prime palm]

who has sys des?

[lament summit]

palantir, forward health, akuna, applied intuition

[prime palm]

noooo not pltr

dude idk wtf is up with pltr

[static moth]

screw forward

[prime palm]

everyone skipped their oa and did their karat

[normal palm]

i had a coworker that used to just put "no" for needing sponsorship lol cuz TN is so easy to get

[static moth]

sus company

[pallid quarry]

^ I got recruiter phone from databricks but resume rejected after that, same with scale AI

[prime palm]

but i had their fucking HACKERRANK

[prime palm]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[weak latch]

fuckkkk........

let me go check then......

[prime palm]

that's lowkey a yikes. but i might have to for fucks sake

[weak latch]

im scared.....

[lament summit]

sys design are easier than lc

IMO

[normal palm]

yee facts lol]

[exotic lintel]

why

[teal jackal]

dont bother

theyll come to u if u get OA

[lament summit]

sys design really proves that u can do the job instead of being an lc monkey

[prime palm]

lowk agree. my friend said it's very hand wavy + based a lot on 'confidence'

[marble bronze]

Ignorance is bliss

[prime palm]

pretend like you know what you're doing

xddd

[pallid quarry]

palantir is like my only hope if i dont get anything else, dont wanna work there but I need an offer

[weak latch]

okay it still says application transferred

phew

[teal jackal]

[static moth]

what about linkedin return offer?

[prime palm]

gl with their process dawg. it sounds soooo rough

[exotic lintel]

hmm, do u dislike Peter Thiel ?

[weak latch]

@pallid quarry how tf were you getting hella interviews with nothing on the resume and now with amz + linky nothing

that's so strange...

[pallid quarry]

Idk, they start giving them out late oct

[prime palm]

amazon and linky?

sheesh

[static moth]

oh rip

[marble bronze]

Da linky

[prime palm]

@static moth bro you're actually a goat

[static moth]

nah bro thats all u

[prime palm]

no dude like

it's so hard to get returns this time around

4/6 of my friends at amazon didn't get returns

☠️

[teal jackal]

id rather work for government surveillance and human rights abuses than make less than i did as an intern at amazon

[exotic lintel]

wait can you explain ?

[lament summit]

damn rip

[normal palm]

4/7

[teal jackal]

if it was palantir or a low TC company, palantir here i come

[teal jackal]

HOLY SHIT FORREAL?

[exotic lintel]

ok thats understandable, they offer high salary if u change yr mind

[weak latch]

you talking about capital one?

[teal jackal]

c1 does that?

[weak latch]

return intern -> full time the bar raised a bit this year

[normal palm]

but amazon return is like 75% no?

[woeful basin]

how hard is scale oa

[normal palm]

are you sure??

[teal jackal]

yeah they raised the bar for sure, you need to meet a lot more LPs this time

[weak latch]

no i mean "making less than i did as an intern", cap one pays less?

[exotic lintel]

what does it mean ? they passed all interviews, but no offers from Hiring Committee ?

[static moth]

ya its actually cancerous ngl bro

[teal jackal]

nah as an intern, the rate was 105k a year

[weak latch]

yeah my manager mentioned that the bar was high for intern -> FTE

[static moth]

2023 is such a bad year to graduate

[teal jackal]

C1 is like 120k a year

[weak latch]

intern -> intern isn't bad

[lament summit]

frfr

[teal jackal]

oh they raised the bar? No wonder......

[weak latch]

at least the bar was high for me

[teal jackal]

holy fucking shit

nah i believe u darth

[normal palm]

2020-2022 was probs the easiest tbf LOL

[teal jackal]

ive seen a lot of people not get returns

including me

[static moth]

dude the bar to getting the new grad amazon offer is easy as shit externally

i had my 1x30 today

literally nothing during the interview

[pallid quarry]

For linkedin's eval I got exceeds at midpoint then everything was going well but for final somehow my evaluation wasnt that great

[weak latch]

if you get 1x30 its a free offer

[static moth]

"alright tell me about ur oa"

yeah

[pallid quarry]

I'm still confused

[exotic lintel]

2022 has bunch of hiring freeze

[teal jackal]

former amazonians, lets just wait 6 months for cooldown to end

and reapply

[weak latch]

i wonder what determines whether you get 1x30 or 2x60

[normal palm]

1x30 is a joke LOL

[hasty birch]

OA2

[normal palm]

100% on oa

[teal jackal]

if we cant get an offer in 6 months, im reapplying

[weak latch]

i already reapplied 😂

for amz new grad

fuck it

[static moth]

2020 was covid year - a bunch of companies rescinded iirc. airbnb was one of them
2022 had hiring freezes as someone else said

[static moth]

i didnt get perfect on oa1

[teal jackal]

lmk how that goes, lemme know if u get auto-filtered out or get in

[weak latch]

i didn't get insta rejected or anything so i think its just sitting there

[normal palm]

technically when i say 2022 i meant the apps last year

[weak latch]

for a couple weeks now

[static moth]

i didnt get 4 test cases in the second question

still got 1x30 xd

[exotic lintel]

yes, 2021 has it easy

[normal palm]

oh dang ok

[static moth]

ya seems like it

[teal jackal]

c/o 2021 had it ez compared to us

[normal palm]

2020-2022 was quite bullish for tech

[hasty birch]

Yeah as long as you ace OA2 you should get 1x30

[weak latch]

@teal jackal

[hasty birch]

OA1 not as much weight

[static moth]

ya makes sense

[exotic lintel]

LOL

[weak latch]

I think that app is just gonna sit there until my 6 month cooldown ends

[teal jackal]

meta resume bar was so much lowered in 2021/2022, i got an itnerview even

before their stock just died

[weak latch]

i got meta codesignal/phone overnight when i applied with referral in february

[static moth]

ya and u just needed to study top 50-100 tagged and high af chance that u got problems straight from there

[weak latch]

that was pretty funny

[exotic lintel]

they removed the job i applied for lol

[teal jackal]

yeah pretty much

[exotic lintel]

wow

[static moth]

well the summer 2022 interns got screwed

so rip

[normal palm]

amazon intern last year gave tagged too but i was an idiot and just did blind 75, it worked out tho LOL

[teal jackal]

on the "bright" side, meta has better resume value than amazon

[latent sun]

Yo for the fellow spanish speakers -> https://www.shpe.org/uploads/images/general/PDF/NC22-Exhibitor-List-090122.pdf

the list for this conference goes kinda hard.

• Google, Meta, Spotify, Amazon, C1, Bloomberg, Apple, Tiktok, SpaceX, Nintendo, Zoom

[teal jackal]

i remember at amazon as an intern i mentioned to oother interns that i did interview at meta and they were like WHAT

[whole berry]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

you got that shit huh

[weak latch]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[exotic lintel]

really ?

[teal jackal]

imo meta seems a little less dime a dozen

[weak latch]

this, except for AWS i think AWS is better

but meta > non-aws amazon

[teal jackal]

at the level of jobs we're targeting, i feel like amazon is the minimum to pass

[exotic lintel]

but AWS has bad work life balance

[weak latch]

true the full times on my team literally would work 10 hours a day minimum

[exotic lintel]

i think for Junior and New Grad, Amazon is the easiest

[weak latch]

prs coming in at midnight or like 4 am 😂

that happened a lot

[fossil jewel]

ya no thanks

[weak latch]

my 1:1s with my manager were at 6 pm bruh

[latent sun]

Honestly having a big tech name is on an equal level for all companies. What differentiates you is the team/skills used and if they are best fitted to the application you're going for

[weak latch]

💀

[fossil jewel]

for jp the second it turned 5pm i was out

[normal palm]

tbh teams shouldn't review CRs after like 6, that's what our practice would be

[fossil jewel]

if i got an email at 5:01p its for the next business day

[teal jackal]

I'm used to non-career hustlers telling me that "you must have amazon on your resume, you must get so many interviews"

if only they knew, amazon is the bare minimum now, it's not an advantage

[exotic lintel]

imagine if amazon cock block u when ur gf come over 💀

[normal palm]

facts

[exotic lintel]

yea good advice

[teal jackal]

but it can be argued that meeting the minimum > not having it

[teal jackal]

thats true

[slim mortar]

i got confirmation for my amazon final

[hasty birch]

Being a slave to Bezos >>>

[slim mortar]

but it doesnt have any time

how do i find out?

[teal jackal]

not sure what i get rejected for when the position just says

Requirements:

• Have a pulse
• Know how to type

[exotic lintel]

maybe Google Calendar ?

[fossil jewel]

can't type right i bet

[exotic lintel]

Overqualified is a thing

[slim mortar]

its it on amazon chime?

[teal jackal]

i should probably just accept that the process is very rng

[fossil jewel]

its a weird year tbh

[teal jackal]

there's probably no real methodology to it

[teal jackal]

seems like shit luck tbh

[normal palm]

keep at it man you got like another 10 months to get an offer

[latent sun]

yeah its actually a thing. I deadass have not been hearing back from any small local companies even those that reached out on linkedin

[fossil jewel]

like i think i'll just stick to jp for ng and then just study up for better roles

[teal jackal]

yeah, tbh we're gonna have to settle down, and focus on our job hop to SE2, where there's a lot of demand

I'm feeling it when they say that CS is getting saturated

[exotic lintel]

well say you like Big Tech, but you feel like you are a sand in a big wheel
you want to create impact in startups and shit

[exotic lintel]

i think there are like 50,000 CS student finishing school every year

[fossil jewel]

last year and the one before i had better luck with nothing but mid ass projects

[exotic lintel]

in USA

[marble bronze]

CS entry level will always be saturated

[exotic lintel]

😦

[teal jackal]

If I can just get a C1 offer I'll lose my anxiety and start touching grass again

[fossil jewel]

good luck

[teal jackal]

SE2 is where applying to jobs is greener pastrues

[exotic lintel]

touch grass first, and success comes later

[split plaza]

wait did you not get Amzn return

[teal jackal]

i got screwed lmao

they raised bar

[split plaza]

god damn

[teal jackal]

the full time conversion bar is super high now

[latent sun]

Thats the move. And tbh at the end of the day its not that bad. You'll be fine. The main issue is we are literally comparing ourselves to those who are NG 2022 and before. And it isn't fair to think we will be at a similar pace to them. It is what it is

[teal jackal]

I should accept that I'll get paid less and have fewer interviews.

^

[exotic lintel]

can anyone explain ?
so they failed their onsite interviews ?

[latent sun]

its depressing af but its actually not that bad. One year or two of experience and you're golden. plus i'm sure internships in your resume from big tech will play a long ways too

[exotic lintel]

yes

[teal jackal]

they failed the intern evaluation at the end of their internship

[fossil jewel]

economy is weird too, just gotta wait till this slug passes over

[exotic lintel]

oh i get it, thanks

[marble bronze]

I mean, is it bad that you'd only earn 120k? Like it's still a ton of money imo

[fossil jewel]

wait amazon ng not paying well??

[latent sun]

exactly

[teal jackal]

bro i cant go to amazon rn

[exotic lintel]

well maybe the worst hasn't come yet 💀

[teal jackal]

bro the economists arent even calling the current slump a recession, they say the real one is coming soon

🔫👌

[exotic lintel]

:biden 🔫

nah im kidding

[teal jackal]

Jpow is the one responsible for driving the economy into recession

[exotic lintel]

i hate being unemployed, worst time of my life

[wheat seal]

u guys think qualtrics would do layoffs?

[exotic lintel]

oh i think Cisco will have layoffs

[ripe marsh]

doom and gloom is all speculation -- tech is here to stay long term

[wheat seal]

im talking about qualtriccs

qualtrics will layoff?

[fossil jewel]

final or phone? i just have the 60 minute one coming up and dk what to expect

[wheat seal]

u think?

[exotic lintel]

i know, im talking about Cisco

[wheat seal]

whyd u mention cisco

[exotic lintel]

cause u remind me

[wheat seal]

ok

but ur opinion on qualtrics?

[fossil jewel]

ah good luck

[wheat seal]

or ur guys opinion

u. think layoffs?

qualtrics is b2b

but idk

what u guys think

[latent sun]

Anyone know any resume parsers to test out ATS

[frank wedge]

Which state

[exotic lintel]

i dont think anyone here know the answer man, use Blind app instead

[lapis cove]

yea wtf some random ass new grads gonna know about qualtrics

[wheat seal]

blind is terrible lol. Trolls and bad advice

[wheat seal]

i mean like based on the current market

[glad thunder]

If you check #2023_grad_process I have taken it

[exotic lintel]

lol really ?

[fossil jewel]

i hear its all nothing but a pissing contest about who has the biggest TC

[wheat seal]

qualtrics being b2b but stock price down but its projected to go up according to over 90% of analysts

but idk

[exotic lintel]

and the one with biggest TC will receive hates

[wheat seal]

like qualtrics stock is under $12 rn

because missed quota from earlier this year

[exotic lintel]

i remember Google doing good with their Q2, and then they have hiring freeze lol

[wheat seal]

cuz google pays top of the marke

ig

idk

[wheat seal]

it is

ppl write TC like its a signature

[marble bronze]

Plano TX and Reston VA type of thing, maybe other places too. Probably won't go as far in HCOL areas. Can't say what the take home is in that case

[wheat seal]

yup

not good at all

[exotic lintel]

hmm cool

[marble bronze]

Blind is 4chan for people who managed to get a tech job or something

[frank wedge]

Well ofc 120 base is fine in those places lol

[teal jackal]

pretty much

[fossil jewel]

120k isnt bad for a HCOL if you know where to look

[marble bronze]

How bad is it in like SF, Seattle, NYC? Never been there so IDK

[exotic lintel]

with great anonymity comes with great trolling

[fossil jewel]

well i can only speak nyc but if you live in the hyped up areas, then ofc its costly

[exotic lintel]

Amazon will pay higher in SF and NYC
they are more expensive
Seattle doesn't have income stax

[frank wedge]

Manhattan not good, but surrounding areas you will be fine. sf 120 is still fine for now, Seattle you definitely should be okay I think

[fossil jewel]

manhattan is 4k for a closet lmao shits crazy

[outer radish]

[teal jackal]

nyc more expensive than sf now?

intern salary of 7k(post-tax for me) gets by fine in seattle, seattle COL isn't the worst in the world if you're a rentcuck

[iron lily]

you can get apartments for 2k in fidi and the upper east side too

and various other areas

[fossil jewel]

you just gotta know where to look

[frank wedge]

Pretty sure it is and the options are better in sf for the price imo

[fossil jewel]

i thought the bay area is the worst cost wise?

[outer radish]

yo recruiting 2023 kinda chaulked

[frank wedge]

Probably. I don’t live there, just speaking from my apt search before I chose remote

[teal jackal]

its ass

idk why 2023 hates me so much

[outer radish]

someone take me back to end of 2021

naw bro dont say that

just trust the process

applications and leetcode grinding

[old smelt]

you will be fine, start cold emailing 2-3 weeks after applying to positions

[fossil jewel]

also not all places are open yet

[outer radish]

you got internships?

[grizzled bronze]

That's like 8 months away, recruiting is just getting started for new grad

[primal pike]

is vector calculus hard

[peak current]

I graduate in December 2022 with 0 offers currently

[fossil jewel]

its just a lot of formulas

things like stokes and greene, get comfy with your multivariable integration, spherical and cylindrical coords and all

[lament summit]

can anyone tell me if akuna wlb is good

this doesnt tell me at all

[teal jackal]

cold emailing is boosted, it gives you a second chance to resubmit your resume if the resume you sent is dogshit

[primal pike]

yea im screwed

[old smelt]

ive had a lot of success with it 🤷‍♂️

[lament summit]

what language is this

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree it works

[fossil jewel]

not cs

[teal jackal]

it got me an instant interview at meta

what companies have very responsive recruiters

[primal pike]

i think ive more chances of getting faang than passing math

[fossil jewel]

engineering got me taking extra classes

[lament summit]

wired diff

[lapis cove]

this chat in a doomer mood rn

[coral relic]

Not much going at meta now unfortunately 😢

[teal jackal]

tragedy

[marble bronze]

Meta is bing chilling

[exotic lintel]

mark zukerberg is investigated for tax fraud

and suspicion of being a lizardman

so Meta is busy rn

[teal jackal]

u find a recruiter

[exotic lintel]

i go on LinkedIn, I searched Technical Recruiter of Meta

then i just picked randoms out of that list🤷‍♂️

[smoky lodge]

and ask them for sex

[dire yarrow]

or find someone who has been reached out by recruiter

and beg them for email

[exotic lintel]

"i hope i can send your resume once we are connected"

[smoky lodge]

works every time

[dire yarrow]

recruiters are less likely to reply on linkedin coz everyone will ping them there.

for all big companies tho

[exotic lintel]

yes
but i mean the success rate is low so 🤷‍♂️ i think 1/10 recruiters answer me

my Clash Royale clanmate works as recruiter for Meta

[dire yarrow]

yea for most companies this is the case

[exotic lintel]

how do u do that ?
do you google Hardvard Meta tech recruiter ?

i haven't emailed Meta

[dire yarrow]

there's something called socializing

talk to other humans around you

[exotic lintel]

so u go to Career Eopo ?

[dire yarrow]

yea that works too

[exotic lintel]

none of my friends or anyone i know in my year went to Meta 😂
majority are Amazon (yea it was not the best uni)

[dire yarrow]

I actually got email of some west coast recruiter and she forwarded my email to my recruiter, so I'd say email any recruiter. (for meta actually). 22 grad tho

use any emails you got

yea true

[marble bronze]

I feel like apple low-key hardest faang to crack, not necessarily because of difficulty

[exotic lintel]

no one told me that until today lol

[exotic lintel]

Amazon easiest

[dire yarrow]

you can send another email tho

lol

to another person

I mega fucked up meta last year tho

oh yea

[exotic lintel]

50+ emails a day ?

or 50+ emails to an organization in particular

[dire yarrow]

I for email of my uni recruiter, but wrote "I'm interested in google new grad position" instead of "meta new grad position"

[marble bronze]

Oof

[exotic lintel]

Meta recruiter called me, i sent my resume, and he said "nah, bye"

[dire yarrow]

didn't get reply

then I sent email to some other rec, she forwarded it to my uni recruiter (same person)

and I got interview

but ended up failing phone

[exotic lintel]

BRO SAMEEE

i beg this stranger to refer me, but i wrote "Uber" instead of LinkedIn

EDIT : i wrote an entire email for Uber, and not LinkedIn

[dire yarrow]

[mystic glacier]

bloomberg vs. amazon, which one would be a better launchpad for a new grad?

[dire yarrow]

I sent linkedin message to almost 50 recruiters last year (mostly amazon and meta), but only 1 local company rec replied to me

[lament summit]

amazon

• better tech

[mystic glacier]

I am interning there this Summer and I didn't enjoy it

[foggy perch]

Meh I'd do bloomberg for better quality of life

Bloomberg you're more likely to get a good team

[lament summit]

change teams

[foggy perch]

Since you choose your team

[mystic glacier]

Yea I want something like Atlasssian

I heard it's nice there

[mystic glacier]

will try

[lament summit]

friend worked at atlassian and amazon, chose amazon

[dire yarrow]

tho, both are pretty good you can't go wrong with either.

[mystic glacier]

it's always a crapshoot

[exotic lintel]

atlassian is full remote now right

[lament summit]

but its always day1

[lament summit]

no clue

[mystic glacier]

my team at amz is also fully remote

[exotic lintel]

i want full remote + FANG salary + good WLB

😳

[lament summit]

then i hope uve been lcing

[mystic glacier]

Apple?

[lament summit]

apple bad salary

[dire yarrow]

good wlb 💀

[shell fern]

apple doesnt do remote

[lament summit]

G

[mystic glacier]

oh thats right

[lament summit]

is the only option

with the three of those

[dire yarrow]

I don't think you get fully remote option as new grad at G tho