2023_grads

[lapis cove]

yea tbh thats why i judge ppl who work for palantir

[peak ferry]

personally I don't hold those values but I can sympathize

[grand barn]

bruh. there is always an option

[lapis cove]

like if u work for palantir u have the skills to get an equivalent job elsewhere

[sonic coral]

Like what

Is he supposed to work at mcds and kill his career

[primal pike]

lc skills

[peak ferry]

I personally just don't get what makes palantir so evil

[grand barn]

like keep applying? at worst to one of those consulting companies they take anyone with a pulse. tide him over for a while

[lapis cove]

they building shit for surveillance state

[sonic coral]

I mean just because he keeps applying doesn’t mean he’ll get another offer

And defense is in a whole diff echelon than witch

When it comes to setting up your career

[grand barn]

u should work for the mob. u already have the mindset

jk

[teal jackal]

Their products are used by surveillance organizations and they actively collaborate with them

Palantir isn't 100% bad but that are directly involved with ICE

[peak ferry]

that's up to the gov't and society to figure out tho. afaik all palantir does is help analyze data from the govt' and private corpos

[sonic coral]

Lmao, I’m just saying I know a friend who got a single offer and it’s not that simple, he seriously thinks he prob wouldn’t have gotten anything else

[lapis cove]

a gun seller still holds some responsibility for who they sell the guns to

[sonic coral]

It is ultimately a numbers game and many people end up with a single offer

[lapis cove]

same with palantir

they sell shit to ICE and the NSA

[sonic coral]

Yeah govcloud is huge

[grand barn]

yes but there is a big gap between that and working on bombs buddy

[sonic coral]

I mean not every defense swe works directly on weapons lol

[peak ferry]

meh I don't attribute (much) moral culpability to gun sellers. if a society wants guns out of peoples hands they should make rules (laws) about it, not just hope that individuals correctly morally assess who does and does not deserve a gun.

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah they don’t make jets and nukes

[sonic coral]

They could be in an infra org, random compliance shit etc

[jaunty basalt]

Wut da fook is going on

[sonic coral]

Most gov jobs are boring af and are just shitloads of paperwork I heard

A select number of people work on the cool/controversial stuff

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah the team I got BAH for did tax stuff

I bet yak isn’t working on controversial stuff

The mental toll that those jobs can have

[sonic coral]

whaddaya mean bro

he's already surpassed the yemeni child quota for the month

dude's gonna get a SWE II return offer

[jaunty basalt]

He can see ur messages and u can’t see his

[sonic coral]

i can actually

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz u blocked him

[lapis cove]

i heard its 100 syrian child skeletons for a bonus

[sonic coral]

i can selectively view em

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah

[sonic coral]

but he can't dm me anymore

[sonic coral]

this is what i saw when i opened discord this afternoon

like cmon man

[jaunty basalt]

I think he likes you

[peak ferry]

nationalism af people just don't like the gooberment very much

[sonic coral]

i was straight up with him lmao

[jaunty basalt]

[wary pollen]

Dude does Bloomberg reject because it’s been like 3 weeks and haven’t heard anything lol

[runic wind]

So recruiter from company A is asking company B's offer's numbers

How do y'all deal with this

[sonic coral]

did company a give you an offer

[stable wharf]

I think we should discuss this at a later time

[runic wind]

Not yet
But my final is done

[stable wharf]

That’s bullshit

[sonic coral]

wtf why are they asking for company B's numbers, did you try to expedite or something

[runic wind]

I mean kinda
But they still had like 2 weeks after my final to decide

Oh they asked before if I had any other offers
I said yes I have an offer from company B

[lament plaza]

I just got IMC one way video interview , does anyone know what to expect ?

[sonic coral]

I mean just give ‘em company B’s numbers at this point imo

Unless you prefer company b and were hoping to nego

[empty thorn]

anyone whos taken the scale ai oa how was it

[lapis cove]

not bad

[low scroll]

5 weeks no amazon OA

should i reapply

[floral plank]

You got oa?

[icy bough]

can i have a link to the discord pls

[azure zephyr]

how many jobs have yall applied to so far this cycle? i just hit 70

[floral plank]

100

[azure zephyr]

what time?

[low scroll]

do you have a list you can share?

[floral plank]

just look in repo

[azure zephyr]

tbh dont forget to apply to local companies in your area, i applied to like 10 starting last monday and have heard back from 8/10 of them

down, i'll DM you (or actually you DM me since youre priv) i can do like two hours today around 5 PST

[autumn ridge]

Has anyone ever interviewed for Amazon without going through the new grad process? I got reached out to by a recruiter for an SDE 1 position but the process seemed different then what I’ve heard for the new grad interview.

Yeah that sounds right. Damn i haven’t even heard back from my general new grad app so I’ll move forward with it. Ty for the info.

Odds reduced from 3.5% to 2.3% wish me luck lol

[azure zephyr]

don't give up hope with amazon yet! also are you interviewing with other places as well rn?

[ivory stratus]

new grad is dumb easy from what ive heard

second what @azure zephyr said. it might just take a while

[west egret]

You got return with c1, right?

[floral plank]

yea

[west egret]

I only have 40 apps or so in

[pallid kernel]

idk i just keep hearing rumors that amazon has stopped hiring and im getting extremely worried

i know i shouldnt put all my eggs in one basket but

[azure zephyr]

i feel like the best method of action is just applying to as many jobs as you can, seems like the average response rate is pretty low this year

[teal jackal]

Tbh giving up hope for something completely out of your control is a good idea

Like waiting for an Amazon offer decision

[dusky plover]

there's only like 40 or so ng apps out atm lmao

[pallid kernel]

i just want to be done with leetcode and interviews

[calm shale]

can i get a pog in the chat please score verified

[teal jackal]

Like it gets rid of anxiety

What's everyone's application to response rate rn

I'm at 0 for 21

[pallid kernel]

94 apps, 2 interviews

[dusky plover]

prolly like 8/50

[dusky plover]

do u just apply to general swe positions?

[pallid kernel]

i think its cuz im applying for american positions while being canadian

[teal jackal]

Same

[pallid kernel]

idk what kinda sponsorship i need

[dusky plover]

oh yea thats a big thing

[teal jackal]

I'm a us citizen and I'm still failing every resume screen

I think I'm just incompetent

[pallid kernel]

i really want an american position so i can live with my fiance :(

[dusky plover]

do u have work exp

[pallid kernel]

yeah i work at SAP currently

[teal jackal]

Can't u get green card if u marry

Is that how it works

[pallid kernel]

yeah but i dont want to marry rn, im only 23

[teal jackal]

Tru

[dusky plover]

feel like ppl graduating with no prior exp are getting axed

[teal jackal]

Valid

[azure zephyr]

15/60, but i just applied to 10 more jobs so i'll adjust my rate in a few days as far as that

[teal jackal]

Visa lottery is wack

15 out of 60 is good

[azure zephyr]

i wish companies wouldn't ghost, would very much prefer getting a rejection than nothing at all

[teal jackal]

Yeah

[dusky plover]

do yall record your apps in a spreadsheet

[pallid kernel]

yes

[dusky plover]

i just shotgun my resume and call it

[pallid kernel]

i use a notion database

[dusky plover]

ah fuck i should do that huh lol

[azure zephyr]

i thought it was bad but it seems like we're all getting screwed tbh

[dusky plover]

uses notion for ng tracking but rejected from notion ng

[gilded vortex]

Sent 90 apps. Around 40% response rate. Maybe 6-7 phone interviews, 15 OAs, 2 final and 2 offers.

[dusky plover]

🐐

[dusky plover]

do u have prev faang exp

[azure zephyr]

lol if i didn't use a spreadsheet i would be so fucked. 95% of the time when a company reaches out i forgot who they are/what the job application said

[azure zephyr]

cracked

[twilit trail]

is the google intern listing down

[dusky plover]

ok i should prolly use a spreadsheet lol

[gilded vortex]

Yeah equivant to faang

[twilit trail]

whops wrong chat

[dusky plover]

[jaunty basalt]

Cuz at that point it’s just respond to emails

[pallid kernel]

your...........10th

[azure zephyr]

no way

[pallid kernel]

i cant even get 1

[jaunty basalt]

[dusky plover]

yea he did

he just humble bragging

he showed me the emails too

bro

put me back in 2021

ill get 30 offers

[jaunty basalt]

I would write down what they asked though, spreadsheet is really cramped

[pallid kernel]

thats why u use a notion database™️

u can create seperate pages for each entry in ur database

[dusky plover]

notion salesman

[pallid kernel]

yese

[jaunty basalt]

And I find the actual important info for logistics is in an email or two

I mean notion is good

It’s too clean

https://tenor.com/view/getbonkedlol-get-stick-bugged-lol-aliabdaal-doge-bonk-gif-25583534

I see this in my mind

When I use notion

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah bro put me back in 2021

[dusky plover]

why is everyone deleting their shit

[teal jackal]

Is 2 weeks too early to worry about call backs

I applied 2 weeks ago

[azure zephyr]

@wary birch could you send that friend request again i lost it lmao

[teal jackal]

I started applying to a lot of jobs on August 25th, but I've only gotten 2 resume rejects out of 21 apps

[azure zephyr]

whenever i see that an app uses workday the likelihood of me applying goes way down

is anybody else here like that

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah I give up

Or they give up on me

[fallen fox]

especially if they make you add "skills"

[jaunty basalt]

I think that’s almost always available but never required

But it’s tedious when ur there thinking that the resume didn’t parse correctly anyways

[azure zephyr]

also, if you got 10 offers where did you end up ?

[fallen fox]

at least most workday apps dont ask for a cover letter

[dusky plover]

he accepted mcdonalds

[jaunty basalt]

They’re not similar

Nice spread for COL but I wasn’t looking for spread

I just wanted a nice place to start

[jaunty basalt]

[stone sandal]

Did anyone get 2 60 interviews for Amazon new grad?

[lapis cove]

for ng or last year?

[autumn ridge]

They use to be easy with the simply app but lately it’s been kind of janky and not filling as many fields for me at least

[teal jackal]

Workday parser is so bad

Apple parser is goated because the apple parser is spot on with identifying relevant keywords and skills

[gilded vortex]

Ng

[teal jackal]

Numbers game, as they call it

[marble wind]

Anyone have a codesignal link like the square one?

[whole torrent]

Can you renegotiate amazon offer? Or do they not do that

[gilded vortex]

It is non negotiable

[teal jackal]

Does the exploit still work

No way are u serious

Creating alts is illegal now too

Literally 1984

Tbh

[lapis cove]

damn ur cracked

I have 21 apps, with 2 rejects, an auto oa, 2 interviews

rest are ghost lul

[gilded vortex]

Yeah but when I say 40% response rate, half of those are insta rejects

Also a lot of ghosts after phone and oa

[peak ferry]

my response rate to an actual human is like ~10% lul

and I thought that was good enough

[calm shale]

scale ai oa kinda hard

[teal jackal]

Hopium for 2 interviews for me tbh

[gray niche]

my friend just got an amazon OA today I don't think if they stopped hiring they'd still send OAs you should be alright

[bright tartan]

my microsoft app was transferred on aug 25 to my school

does it mean anything / anything i should do

or just wait

okie thanks

[old smelt]

If it's the referral bonus question u can just brute force it

[calm shale]

That’s what I did. Felt bad about it tho lol

Can only

[shut fulcrum]

do u know the questions?

[empty thorn]

anyone know the scale ai full process

[calm shale]

I just spent a lot of time trying to do it in 1 pass

Ended up bfsing on each employee lol

[lapis cove]

yall prob shldnt talk that in depth about an oa problem

dont think its really allowed here

[calm shale]

Bruh

[azure zephyr]

just had an interview with a local company thats looking to hire an entry level software engineer on a regular M-F 9-5 schedule. they want me to basically start right away working full time for them and they provide mentorship from senior engineers. i only have two classes left in my degree (capstone I this sem & capstone II next sem) thats all done online/over discord. im working a shitty part time job rn so should i take the opportunity to work full time with this place or...?

i feel like i should bc min wage sucks lmao

[calm shale]

I’d do that for sure

[gilded dust]

@azure zephyr yesss

[calm shale]

So you don’t technically grad until May 23?

[azure zephyr]

^ yeah, and they know that

[gilded dust]

@azure zephyr why wouldn’t U take it

[azure zephyr]

this recruiter reached out to me on linkedin & its only a 15 min drive from me

[calm shale]

If you don’t have a lot of experience from big tech then take it. Otherwise I’d say just focus on LC and interview

[azure zephyr]

im not sure tbh. i guess the jump from part time to full time is a bit scary to me since im in school rn, but i literally only spend like an hour on school a week now

[runic wind]

How much are they paying, lol

[azure zephyr]

im not sure she said they start around 65-70k, i only make $15/hr with my job rn so im pretty sure this would be a step up lol

[runic wind]

It'll be hard to interview with a ft job + school tho

On-sites usually end up taking the entire day for me

Or atleast half a day

[runic wind]

Yeah 65k-70k is a lot for sure

[patent gyro]

what happened tho?

[azure zephyr]

yeah this is something else im worried about as well 🤔

she did mention that theyre very flexible with hours since its hybrid so maybe on days i have long on sites i can WFH

[late kestrel]

lol just them saying theyre gonna start looking at applications this week

[azure zephyr]

i have experience from a big defense company & a fortune 100 company, nothing FAANG level tho. i also have an offer from amazon for after grad

[runic wind]

Yeah
Negotiate PTO tbh
Ask for like 30 PTOs or something lol

[patent gyro]

are you waiting for a return offer or you just applied?

[runic wind]

Bruh
Now that 65k doesn't seem all that worth it lol

[jaunty basalt]

Just don’t take it

U don’t really need the money right

Just chill

[azure zephyr]

i pay for my own bills so yeah

i dont work part time now just for fun 😂

[jaunty basalt]

No I mean the increase

Idk what this part time job entails either

[azure zephyr]

its just fast food

[jaunty basalt]

U seem to be able to manage it well rn

Cuz there’s also the fact that u don’t seem to be set on Amazon

That means ur gonna interview

And just taking a full time job and leaving is kinda sus

Or being mia on the job cuz onsites

[calm shale]

u already got amazon??

[azure zephyr]

maybe i'll see if i can work part time for them as an intern instead bc the part time job isn't enough anymore with inflation

[calm shale]

brother i'd just relax

oh didn't see u pay ur own bills and shit

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah this sounds more manageable

[azure zephyr]

yep i think that's what i'm going to do, i definitely need the money and have been looking for a job anyways im eating up my savings like crazy rn lmaoo

[calm shale]

or since u alrady have zon, you shouldn't have to worry about interviews right? so you can do fulltime i guess and not be stressed about time

[azure zephyr]

yep

[azure zephyr]

i'm just seeing whats out there, i'm basically waiting on microsoft tbh. paramount sounds rly cool too

[jaunty basalt]

I get that, I did the same thing

That’s how I rack up

[azure zephyr]

i decided that i'm going to talk to them about doing moreso part time. or maybe work 4 days out of the week instead of 5 so that i can have time to interview when needed

bc it seems like only downside of taking this is less time to interview

[azure zephyr]

i'm not exactly trying to rack up offers but i really want something with good culture/wlb and amazon doesn't rly seem like the move based off horror stories, if i get good team im chilling

[sonic coral]

Amazon highly depends on team but there is a slight chance you end up on a dumpster fire

[jaunty basalt]

I mean I wasn’t trying to rack up, I just needed options and I was already on-site deep

So light as well finish

[azure zephyr]

where did you end up? if you dont mind me asking. or are you still interviewing

[jaunty basalt]

Bloomberg

[sonic coral]

Lol I feel this, I just wanted shit other than zon and ended up with several other offers

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah also zon is much better than what I had

For return offer

[sonic coral]

100%

I was content with zon

[slate bobcat]

Anyone know what to expect from a JP Morgan super day?

[low scroll]

@azure zephyr can you dm

[sonic coral]

Just wanted options

[jaunty basalt]

A joke

[slate bobcat]

Is it super easy?

I’m hella nervous

[jaunty basalt]

It’s not even a real interview

[late kestrel]

just applied

[jaunty basalt]

The technical part just be confident and they won’t even let you finish solving the problem

[slate bobcat]

I’m so scared now

[jaunty basalt]

If they don’t send you an editor have one ready

[slate bobcat]

it can’t be this free

[patent gyro]

they haven’t even started giving out return offers yet😭

[jaunty basalt]

It is

U just can’t get ur time back

[slate bobcat]

Can I dm you?

[jaunty basalt]

[grizzled bronze]

A day that is super!

[slate bobcat]

[split plaza]

bruh lmao

why isn't it clickable

this is probably a good sign for Nuro though

[slate bobcat]

STOP

PLEASE STOP IT

LUMEN

@dusty basin

I SEE YOU

[smoky lodge]

https://www.mmaweekly.com/mark-zuckerberg-shares-mma-training-footage-ufc-fighters-react

Zucc?

[cobalt siren]

mark zuckerberg training for the jake paul fight

[buoyant herald]

Prepping for streetfights with ex meta interns

[fossil jewel]

2 interviews back to back

one behavioral and one technical, both of which were pretty easy ngl

though i did it for the internship

dk if ng is two as well or if there's an extra interview

[misty fable]

checked email

same old same old

[vital meteor]

Zon? :sadcat:

[misty fable]

zon was looooong ago

this was circle

still 0 offer gang

[vital meteor]

Its k more apps will open up you will get something

[misty fable]

inhaling copium by telling myself that canada hasnt started hiring for summer 2023

which is becoming less and less true

[teal jackal]

are u canadian or american

[misty fable]

intl studying in canada

[bleak raven]

not banned we good

[teal jackal]

did u get to keep your 846?

[misty fable]

so that lowers the number of apps i can even send

[teal jackal]

or any of them

or is trying the exploit not worth the risk

[misty fable]

considering it might be tied to your info

probably not

might still need codesignal in the future

[teal jackal]

Thank you for your application, we greatly appreciate the effort and thought you put into this role!

We have evaluated your skills and qualifications, and have decided that we needed to use your application as toilet paper to wipe our ass with and will no longer be able to consider you as a candidate.

Thank you again for applying, and we sincerely hope for the best for your endeavours

this is honestly how every resume reject reads to me now

like just say that my app was shit

[dire yarrow]

That is not true

just ignore resume reject

simple

🙃

[whole berry]

has anyone ever got an offer from square/block?

[teal jackal]

no

which is why i used to always abuse their link

[misty fable]

should we start triangle

what shapes do we have so far

circle, stripe, square

[teal jackal]

im gonna start a company called rhombus

rhombus(sy)

[misty fable]

sign me the fuck up

[fossil jewel]

creative

[teal jackal]

ill take rhombus or heptagon

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/6e/b5/726eb5305ce3a655056ef38ff6c59b07.png

[fossil jewel]

taken

[teal jackal]

fuck

ill take heptagon

https://heptagon.in/#:~:text=Heptagon is the digital catalyst,associate company of Quess Corp.

nope

they beat me to it

[fossil jewel]

[teal jackal]

https://media.istockphoto.com/vectors/basic-geometric-shapes-vector-id900920780

QUATREFOIL

NOPE

someone beat me to that too

[fossil jewel]

no way

[teal jackal]

fuck it we going 3D now

https://pixfeeds.com/images/math/1280-813053080-set-of-geometric-shapes.jpg

[late kestrel]

ngl i just kinda realized stripe is actually a thing and not a name they made up

oops

[teal jackal]

EVERY SHAPE IS TAKEN

[fossil jewel]

! process dodecahedron reject

[teal jackal]

!process pentagrammic prism reject

[cerulean basin]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[fossil jewel]

make a company and just call it shapes

[slender apex]

just wanna ask a quick question: how does one get better scores in codesignal tests?

i know ppl say to go 1,2,4 and than go back to 3

some ppl say skip 3 entirely if only 20 mins left etc etc

[misty fable]

LMAO

[slender apex]

just watned to get the best way to approach it to max out lol

[teal jackal]

For q4, I'd recommend study algo patterns and just throw all the patterns you remember at the problem and try to get it to work

[misty fable]

no fucking way

pensive emoji

[teal jackal]

[fossil jewel]

[misty fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/775882778486636554/947397268900831242/cryroll.gif

we'll get job

might not be the best but could always jump ship

[fossil jewel]

i never did a codesignal before so idek what to expect lmao

[misty fable]

it's just another LC test

[teal jackal]

Of course you want to be smart with what patterns you attempt to apply, only apply patterns where the input data is relevant to the pattern

[misty fable]

straightforward prompts, no essays (looking at you amazon)

[slender apex]

tyty

any other advice

[marble bronze]

Bro I'm fucked

[slender apex]

how much do they weigh time compared to questions solved

[marble bronze]

Eh

[slender apex]

ive heard ppl getting 780s without even looking at q 3

[misty fable]

i got 719 on codesignal should i still even attempt roblox's cognitive tests

[late kestrel]

codility is ass ab that. literally every one ive had has been like 16 paragraphs

[marble bronze]

I mean, you could

[dusty basin]

Get 1, 2, and 4 done and iirc u should hit low 800s

[late kestrel]

everyone typin rn got white pfp its thrownin me off

[eternal mortar]

@slender apex yoooooooo wassuppppp vic

[slender apex]

wassup lol

[slender apex]

thanks!

[teal jackal]

time is overrated tbh

they score based on getting q4 right

dont worry about time

spend all the time u need on q4

[lapis cove]

no company emails today :/

[rugged spindle]

vmware reject today :/

[lilac siren]

3 reject emails today :/

[teal jackal]

crickets for me

[fickle bridge]

damn the soonest available time for my Circle phone is a month from now

That sucks

[lapis cove]

💀

[rugged spindle]

ok u win :/

[teal jackal]

sorry michael but what was your codesignal?

[slender apex]

chirp chirp in the inbox sadge

[split plaza]

is it fair to say that people who applied to Netflix on 8/23 and haven't heard back yet have been resume rejected

[gray dagger]

Anyone got Crabel Capital OA?

They expect me to use C++, I haven't touched it since 2017 :/

[floral plank]

Yea

Garda?

[gray dagger]

Garda?

[lapis cove]

no one knows

[teal jackal]

CHOWDA

I NEED EMPLOYMENT

[floral plank]

I thought you meant Garda

[autumn ridge]

LOL no fucking way

Ah yeah I could see it being a reasonable question if it's phrased correctly.

[smoky lodge]

Got past the resume review and got an optiver OA but I’m gonna do it

[floral plank]

Isn’t that auto?

[runic wind]

I really like 400k chicago

[smoky lodge]

I mean this could be bullshit but it’s been like 2 weeks since I applied

[runic wind]

Wait optiver does hft stuff with Java?

[smoky lodge]

I just haven’t had good luck with HFTs so I’m wondering if I care enough to do it

Anyone know what its like to get non-new grad HFT roles?

thinking of giving up on HFTs and trying again in 2-3 years

[runic wind]

It's considerably harder

[smoky lodge]

I figure but I also barely know C++ right now

So even if it’s harder I would be better

[peak ferry]

learn real quick that's my plan

[runic wind]

Getting calls is harder

HFT -> tech is much easier, atleast till L5ish

But that's also probably because of how big tech is (no pun intended)

Who tf uses auto&& tho

[foggy perch]

I've heard Bloomberg -> HFT is a decent feeder but idk

[runic wind]

Messed up a phone today

[foggy perch]

that's my goal at least

[hasty birch]

I've heard the same

[smoky lodge]

I’ve finally realized a little too late that it’s important to know what technologies a role involves

[foggy perch]

huh

[runic wind]

Does sig pay well to it's quants

[foggy perch]

why is sig pay so low then

smh

[runic wind]

Because swe pay is kinda sad

[foggy perch]

^

sad

other HFTs pay swe mad bucks still tho

even if they focus on quants

[runic wind]

Swe at Akuna also pays mid

[smoky lodge]

is a SWE at a quant firm even a SWE tho

Like if all you ever do is improve latency and speed are you even a developer

[runic wind]

But imc also paid 20k to some swe interns as sign on

[foggy perch]

I mean I'd say so

well

at least a software engineer

I guess if you consider engineer different from dev then no

[smoky lodge]

Nah you’re a financial technician at that point

“Engineer” my ass

[runic wind]

You engineer money

[foggy perch]

meh to me engineer just means engineering a solution with software

so I count it

[buoyant herald]

Would yall take a 200k amazon offer or 275k citadel offer

[foggy perch]

cit

[simple elk]

What cities

[buoyant herald]

Amazon sunnyvale, citadel miami

[simple elk]

Zon

ezpz

[runic wind]

But cit offers are like 350

And 75k is pretty darn significant

[simple elk]

Couldn't pay me enough to live in florida

Cali kind of an L too tho

[buoyant herald]

florida man 🗿

[sonic coral]

its miami tho

which is a whole diff ballgame i think

@tall solar

[runic wind]

I mean def not as expensive as SF

[simple elk]

Actually average time at Cit is less than 1 year

Miami would be fun for a year

but no more

[runic wind]

Is it more at zon?

[sonic coral]

ask our boi @tall solar he's in miami lol

or rather was, idk if he's still there

[simple elk]

I think theyre around the same but I heard Cit < 1y Zon is18mo

@runic wind

[sonic coral]

zon avg turnover is 1.5 years ye

[runic wind]

Wow

That is kinda surprising

[simple elk]

Or get pipped if they don't hit it in 2 years

The thing that would be hard is Zon Denver vs Cit Chicago

Exactly

[runic wind]

Is cit gonna keep their Chicago office

Why y'all shitting on Chicago

[simple elk]

Once they figure out a way to deal with the homeless in a humane manner

[runic wind]

Trump Tower looks amazing

[simple elk]

Rn they send the cops to move the every few weeks

and the camp pops up somewhere else

[simple elk]

I Not shitting on Chicago

Denver vs Chicago is harder than Denver vs NY

This is true

I was just saying you get pip if you dont get SDE II i 2 years

you have to be in that 6% for that

[rain patio]

anyone know how long to hear back after roblox final?

[rain patio]

it was like 2 weeks for me

[foggy perch]

around 2 weeks for me for codesignal -> final time

maybe a bit more

[rain patio]

i did my final today lol

[foggy perch]

nice

[rain patio]

when did you do your final?

[foggy perch]

mine's on 22nd

[rain patio]

like yesterday or last week

oh ok

[foggy perch]

oh yeah was the weirdly named interview they had like sys design

[rain patio]

no it was just behavioral for me

[simple elk]

Does roblox ghost

[foggy perch]

oh ok

nice

was it like project deep dive behavioral

or like "Tell me about a time you disagree with your manager"

[runic wind]

They def resume reject

[foggy perch]

type behavioral

[rain patio]

more that type

like a time you failed, etc

[foggy perch]

oh ok

[rain patio]

theyre trying to learn how you think

[foggy perch]

most importantly

was the leetcode they asked

DP

if so I'm kmsing immediately

[rain patio]

nope

[foggy perch]

ok thank god

well

praying all of us here get the offer

[rain patio]

it was like not too leetcode either

it was like roblox themed questions lol

[foggy perch]

huhhh

idk if that's a positive or not in difficulty

which one

the deer std or the car

or both

I think i did roughly teh same on car

deer std I was confused too

idk if we all have the same car problem though

[swift wave]

is google new grad open for NA? I can only see positions for switzerland or sth

[foggy perch]

was open for 3 days

then closed

[swift wave]

wtf

are they gonna open again

[foggy perch]

🤷

Nah I used referral for roblox

Oh

[runic wind]

No

[prime palm]

from a recruiter: the role will continue to open and close so you should check back once in a while

[foggy perch]

I'm pretty sure roblox oa is auto

Resume screen only happens after oa

[runic wind]

I literally got resume rejected before OA

Like

[swift wave]

this is so fucked lmao

but thanks

[prime palm]

i know

i just applied the first time they opened

[foggy perch]

Maybe it detected your graduation date as messed up?

[smoky lodge]

What is the Roblox oa like

Thinking of taking a nap then doing it

[floral plank]

Oa is codesignal

[runic wind]

Dang I did not think that
That's messed up wtf

I graduate in spring 2023

[foggy perch]

Could be it idk

[runic wind]

That's what my resume says as well

Auto rejecting based on ats parsing is

Yeah I did not add my Roblox id

[late kestrel]

my account turned 10 this year and they still rejected me

[smoky lodge]

You have a Roblox Id 🤡

[chilly burrow]

Wait

I didn't get oa either

Pretty sure you gotta email them

If you don't get it

[foggy star]

Just did Palantir karat, got 3/3 2 passed all test cases, 3rd one got the code but didn’t run and verbally verified approach and it worked

For anyone who’s gonna do it know bfs, dfs, queues, and hashmap counting

[lament summit]

wtf

thats a lot of steps

[blissful sonnet]

are you supposed to get a confirmation email after applying to amazon new grad? I just realized I didn't get one

[winter aurora]

Is the a list of companies which what their processes look like? Like how many rounds and which round is what?

[fierce river]

We don't get that usually

[winter aurora]

Confused on wtf the !process means lol

[late kestrel]

just a way to crowd source that information

[teal jackal]

i need my 840 codesignal already

but codesignal's 14 day cooldown playing

should i take my chances with a 780 on roblox

or wait

[latent sun]

just wait

[teal jackal]

i was thinking too

its either i fail with bad score, or roblox closes

[fast hinge]

wait

[teal jackal]

waiting gives me the better odds

fuck the 14 day cooldown

[simple elk]

Wait for an 8hundo

[teal jackal]

how do i prep for Q4s

[simple elk]

Theyre just LCs basically

[teal jackal]

Every algo paradigm but dp right?

[simple elk]

Yeah

but 9/10 times hashmap/set does what you want

the other times are like 2 pointer, or binary search in my experience

[teal jackal]

The last problem I had was a min heap problem

With intervals

[simple elk]

skill issue /s

[teal jackal]

I figured that out AFTER I took it

[simple elk]

I need to practice heaps

python heapify()

[bleak relic]

Any tips on pair programming interviews?

[simple elk]

Talk

Make a plan before you start coding

[teal jackal]

The problem with saying that a proBlem is a hashmap problem is that it's still kinda vague tbh

[simple elk]

and stick to your plan

[teal jackal]

But usually you can tell when you need to hashmap something

[simple elk]

Hashmap is like "Oh I will need to refer back to previous values while i iterate over this list"

[teal jackal]

Yeah pretty much

[simple elk]

Sometimes thats dp

but no dp on codesignal

[teal jackal]

You want constant time access to the existence of the object, or another object the current object is paired with

[simple elk]

ye

[teal jackal]

Heap is like

You need the smallest/largest of a set

Log time is acceptable

I hope I get an ez hashmap problem next time

[simple elk]

Trust

youll get a classic O(n) using a hashmap in a loop

i beleive

[teal jackal]

Thanks broski

[misty fable]

gl!

[teal jackal]

Thanks broski

[outer radish]

I need some time to ramp up LC

ya'll think I should apply now, and LC at the same time. Or LC then apply

[exotic lintel]

apply now, and LC at the same time

[lament summit]

apply and lc at the same time

interviews generally come a month AFTER u apply

[teal jackal]

Resume screening takes a while anyways

Start now

And then scheduling interviews will take a while too

[exotic lintel]

and you can reschedule

[lament summit]

and the first interview is usually behaviorial

[teal jackal]

If you're not confident just stall once you actually get an interview

Push back as far as reasonably possible

[teal jackal]

Makes me feel better about myself rn

1 weeks 5 days in, 22 companies, zero interviews

[lament summit]

those are some rookie numbers

im 1 month 10 days in

[teal jackal]

I need to be patient

I should live and enjoy life while I wait

[lament summit]

35 companies

applied to

9 interviews

so far

[bleak relic]

So same phone interview tips or should I do anything differently?

[outer radish]

ah true

aii sounds good

its grind szn **everyone

[azure zephyr]

yeah i started applying aug 11th and things are just now starting to really roll in

[lament summit]

yep

i already faced heartbreak in the season

[outer radish]

anyone have the links to all the repos with the new grad postings?

[ivory stratus]

yeah right now i have 3 interviews

yeah one sec

[low scroll]

pinned

[ivory stratus]

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023

oh lmao

oh well

[outer radish]

blesssss thanks

[azure zephyr]

and rem that this process is no way representative of ur worth. its literally 75% luck and 25% skill imo

[ivory stratus]

yuuuuuuup

just hoping to bank $100k total comp starting out

[outer radish]

oh i feel that big time

[teal jackal]

Truth

[outer radish]

got done dirty with a team at amazon for my last internship

[simple elk]

Theoretically for a pair programming the interviewer should be more talkative and collaborative.

[teal jackal]

Yooooooo vruh I've met a lot of other people who got screwed over for the Amazon return offer

[simple elk]

The goal isnt to see you pump out an algo even if you could for the problem

[teal jackal]

I'm people

[outer radish]

LMAO

[simple elk]

its to see how you work with someone else

[teal jackal]

Wat?

[azure zephyr]

my prediction is that the ppl in here who are currently applying will have something locked down by mid oct/nov

[misty fable]

why is an intern working 996

[ivory stratus]

bruh i freaking hope

[misty fable]

cries in canada

[outer radish]

another team left me on read for an entire month so i had to rush to finish when they did respond

[teal jackal]

Believe it or not some interns actually do that

[azure zephyr]

im really thinking by nov a lot of us will know 😭

[jaunty basalt]

thats ambitious lol

[azure zephyr]

well i mean the people who are currently applying right now, that's two months from now to go through interview processes

[ivory stratus]

yeah. im feeling good. ive been grinding leetcode and studying a lot so im hoping i just nab something good

[teal jackal]

That's pretty ambitious, I'd say by like February or so IMO

But maybe I'm a bit more of a pessimist

[jaunty basalt]

i felt like most 2022 ppl were chilling by february

[ivory stratus]

i heard microsoft OA is pretty easy so im really hoping i can get final at least

[azure zephyr]

ah man, i just figured that a lot of big companies will have hc going into the holiday season

[teal jackal]

It's a numbers game

Given ten interviews, for sure you'll pass at least one, and for sure you'll fail at least one

[azure zephyr]

facts

[ivory stratus]

true true

[jaunty basalt]

the offer i took i got in january

[misty fable]

Your results and code are currently being reviewed by the hiring manager, and I will have feedback and next steps for you asap.

[jaunty basalt]

the offers i was seriously considering i also got in january

[outer radish]

anyone have any good tips for prepping for NG?

was planning on running through grokking then blind75

[ivory stratus]

bro just grind leetcoe

[outer radish]

mocks every weekend

[ivory stratus]

blind75 and company tagged

[azure zephyr]

b75 got me zon

[misty fable]

this's post karat so i dont really know what this means

hopefully positive

[outer radish]

grokking b4 or naw

[azure zephyr]

never done grokking

[jaunty basalt]

pretty sure they interned at zon lol

[azure zephyr]

ohhh jake nvm lmao

[ivory stratus]

to what?

[azure zephyr]

you interned at amazon?

[ivory stratus]

nah i wish lol

[ivory stratus]

how many questions did you solve without looking at solution and coming back to it?

[bright tartan]

zon

lol

[azure zephyr]

the jungle

[teal jackal]

Grokking is good for recognizing circumstances for certain approaches to problems, but tbh you need to do practice outside of grokking too to make the most of it

[azure zephyr]

it depends on the subject tbh. dp & graph questions i still struggle with :/

[teal jackal]

Or else you won't be as good at recognizing when a pattern should be used

[ivory stratus]

fair enough. im aiming to be done with blind 75 by the time i have final interviews

[azure zephyr]

but by the time i was at 40+ problems i could do a lot of meds in like 20 mins, which was my goal

[outer radish]

with this being said, you think its a good idea to do grokking section by section then doing the assocaited leetcode tagged? Or to speed run grokking, then just do as many LC as possible

[ivory stratus]

heck yeah

that's where i want to be soon

[azure zephyr]

i still have a lot of work to do though i literally just got rolled by a lc hard this morning

in an interview

[pseudo creek]

Anyone done Broadway Technology karat?

[misty fable]

startup idea; carsharing but for people who are willing to split the speeding ticket

for people who needs to go to the office asap or something

[sonic coral]

It’s just called Speed

[misty fable]

hahahaha

the 10 passengers agreed prior pickup that they'll be sharing the $368 ticket (in canada BC) prior to pickup

[azure zephyr]

i hope i hear back from microsoft soon, ik some ppl been getting oas

[ivory stratus]

you got it fam

[teal jackal]

I'm doing section first, then some tagged

[azure zephyr]

you heard from them today right?

[ivory stratus]

yeah. got an email this morning

[azure zephyr]

fingers crossed then!

also good luck

[ivory stratus]

thanks. i heard the codility is pretty easy and you need at least 60% to pass

[azure zephyr]

really? maybe the hardest part with microsoft is getting the interview/assessment

[ivory stratus]

i just hope its final after this though lol. would hate to have another interview unless it was just review of codility and no more problems

[ivory stratus]

that's what ive heard honestly. i heard microsoft is pretty easy as far as the itnerview goes

my SWE intern interview for first round was print all nodes in a binary tree

[teal jackal]

i wonder how to pass resume screening there

i probably just need good luck

[ivory stratus]

i honestly think it's mostly luck

[azure zephyr]

lmao my first round wasn't even coding based, just a conversation

[ivory stratus]

yeah i heard that for some people too lol

[azure zephyr]

im just hoping that since i got past the resume screen last year, i can pull it off again this year

[ivory stratus]

i'm sure you will

[teal jackal]

thats a good sign

[ivory stratus]

esp if you got past it last year

[sonic coral]

They’d never be able to implement it in Poland that’s for sure lmao

[teal jackal]

unless you make your resume worse than it was last year

[azure zephyr]

yeah the only thing is that i withdrew my application before the final last year

[sonic coral]

Traffic fines are in the thousands there now

[misty fable]

oh bruh

[jaunty basalt]

pretty much

[pallid quarry]

I got an offer from msft last year but the recruiters email is inactive this year

[jaunty basalt]

but it is org dependent

you could be interviewing for an org that wants more out of you

[azure zephyr]

...like i got so nervous that i took another internship offer that i already had and scrapped my final with msft like a week before it was supposed to happen

[jaunty basalt]

but you might not get put there in the first place

[azure zephyr]

so uhh hopefully there's no hard feelings there

[pallid quarry]

Hopefully I get an oa this time

[jaunty basalt]

when did they start giving out OAs?

i didnt get one last year and i got offer

[ivory stratus]

what was your process?

[jaunty basalt]

phone final offer

[ivory stratus]

daaaaaaamn

[pallid quarry]

last year I had phone on-site then offer

[ivory stratus]

im hoping OA final lol

[pallid quarry]

No OA for me either

[jaunty basalt]

wait new grad?

[pallid quarry]

No last year intern

[jaunty basalt]

i only ever applied new grad

[pallid quarry]

This year I’m new grad

[jaunty basalt]

yeah ok makes sense

[teal jackal]

i applied to 5 roles for apple new grad today

[runic wind]

Does apple nego against another apple offer

[pallid quarry]

I haven’t heard back yet after apple phone last week

[teal jackal]

no idea

[mystic glacier]

Just took my first OA/CodeSignal of this year…720

[pallid quarry]

Feel like I’m ghosted or rejected

[teal jackal]

youll get em next time

[mystic glacier]

Will it be possible to get a 800+ by November

[teal jackal]

yes

[mystic glacier]

[teal jackal]

yes, but youll have to roll the dice every 14 days

[runic wind]

Only need to do 1,2,4 for that

[teal jackal]

do a retake as soon as u can

[ivory stratus]

bro you got this

[teal jackal]

and study LC paradigms

a good q4 is very luck dependent

[mystic glacier]

I solved 1, 2…passed 10/10 on 4 but got exceeded time when submitted..and 3/10 on 3 coz ran outta time

😩

Was hoping to see a 750+

[teal jackal]

time limit exceeded for 4 is exactly whats supposed to happen

10/10 are the base cases that can be brute forced

the rest of the cases need a smart algo to pass

[jaunty basalt]

pretty sure they dont move you on with multiple roles

[mystic glacier]

Changed to hash map but still got time exceeded..Time to grind LC

[teal jackal]

yes

[jaunty basalt]

my recruiter asked if i wanted to proceed with the current one

[teal jackal]

grind hard bro

[marble bronze]

What did you get with that?

[mystic glacier]

Looking forward to taking it again in 2 weeks

[mystic glacier]

720

[jaunty basalt]

getting a phone is crazy

[runic wind]

Yeah haha I was kidding

[marble bronze]

Dang, that's rough

[jaunty basalt]

after phone is final

and you can split it cuz its long, at least for me

[runic wind]

Different for every team

[jaunty basalt]

ik

i got offer

[mystic glacier]

You work at Roblox?

[jaunty basalt]

thing is theyre still pretty long

[mystic glacier]

I just got an extension for Roblox

[low scroll]

what company

[jaunty basalt]

just what they ask changes

[jaunty basalt]

apple

[low scroll]

damn

congrats

[mystic glacier]

Congrats!

[runic wind]

ICT1/2?

[jaunty basalt]

2

idk what 1 is lol

2 is entry level

[runic wind]

Lol you're cracked

Oh wait
I guess I meant 2/3?

Is 2 hourly

[jaunty basalt]

yeah i get what you mean

yes

2 is hourly

[runic wind]

Yeah okay

Does apple pay well

[jaunty basalt]

yeah of course

[runic wind]

I know some ai/ml teams do

[jaunty basalt]

my offer wasnt in HCOL though

so i didnt take it

[runic wind]

Austin?

[jaunty basalt]

yeah

[runic wind]

Hm, Austin has mostly hw/systems teams afaik

[jaunty basalt]

you know more than me about the teams lol

[teal jackal]

id take Apple austin tbh, its kinda hcol now but an apartment with 2 parking spots is attainable on an apple salary

[jaunty basalt]

literally knew nothing

[teal jackal]

im a MASSIVE car enthusiast

[jaunty basalt]

cant find anything online

[teal jackal]

i want to get a miata on top of my current car

[azure zephyr]

you can live anywhere just fine with an apple salary

[foggy perch]

apple adjusts its salary way down in texas tho

I think apple texas is usually 120k-130k

[teal jackal]

120k base?

or tc

[foggy perch]

from what I've seen on levels at least

tc

[teal jackal]

120k base is good

[teal jackal]

🤮

fr?

[jaunty basalt]

oh hell no

[teal jackal]

thats kinda lowball

[jaunty basalt]

thats much lower than what i got for austin

[marble bronze]

It's always interesting to see just how ambiguous my profile description is

Developer on Roblox !== Developer at Roblox

[mystic glacier]

😂

[mystic glacier]

Sorry I’m not smart

[foggy perch]

is it

huh

[mystic glacier]

[foggy perch]

actually ig 120-130k was a bit of a low guess

[marble bronze]

Eh, you're not the first one to ask haha

[foggy perch]

140-150 more accurate based on levels

[teal jackal]

theyre stingy on bonus and stock

damn

but austin is affordable for the price

im gonna buy my miata

and have 2 parking spots

[runic wind]

Two parking spots will cost you more than your Miata lol

[teal jackal]

https://www.autotrader.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/257779-1.jpg

[mystic glacier]

Between Capital one and Amazon, which would y’all choose

[teal jackal]

amazon

[marble bronze]

Probably Amazon

[foggy perch]

amazon

[split plaza]

Amazon

[runic wind]

Zon no contest

[runic wind]

Wait where are you going then

[mystic glacier]

What about salesforce vs. Amazon

[jaunty basalt]

i took bloomberg

[foggy perch]

this website exists just to hate on c1 lmao http://desudesudesu.io/

[mystic glacier]

Microsoft vs. Amazon

[teal jackal]

depends on microsoft TC

[teal jackal]

salesforce

[runic wind]

Niuuuu yawk

[runic wind]

Tough, I'd choose according to the team

[jaunty basalt]

yeah gotta stay here

[foggy perch]

you don't know amzn team before accepting offer tho

so pure rng

[simple elk]

Msft pay < Zon normally

[runic wind]

Not if you get l60

[teal jackal]

if you can nego MS to get close to zon, id take MS

[mystic glacier]

I’m interning

[foggy perch]

oh

[mystic glacier]

[jaunty basalt]

my L59 was higher than ng zon

[foggy perch]

did you try nego?

[simple elk]

and antidotally growth/getting responsibility is slower at SF and Msft than Zon, but that also. means better WLB

[foggy perch]

I feel like amazon would match msft with nego

[mystic glacier]

where is this L59

[jaunty basalt]

amazon doesnt negotiate student program offer

[mystic glacier]

Bloomberg?

[foggy perch]

really

[jaunty basalt]

the only place with that leveling scheme lol

[foggy perch]

I assumed amazon negotiated with competing offers

[simple elk]

What was it?

[jaunty basalt]

msft

[simple elk]

Nope

[jaunty basalt]

redmond

and seattle

[mystic glacier]

Roblox vs. Amazon? Im guessing Roblox

[simple elk]

Were you return intern or just NG offer at either

[mystic glacier]

LinkedIn vs Amazon? LinkedIn right?

[teal jackal]

no contest roblox

[teal jackal]

no contest linkedin

[jaunty basalt]

nah i didnt intern at any of these places

[simple elk]

How much higher was msft than zon ng

[runic wind]

Man LinkedIn is so pog

[teal jackal]

id turn down MS for zon tbh if MS lowballs for TC

[runic wind]

I'd legit take LinkedIn

[simple elk]

< or > 5 or 10 k

[teal jackal]

id rather work at zon for 170k than ms for 150k

[mystic glacier]

anyone tried linkedin OA before?

[lapis cove]

linkedin vs roblox tournament final

[teal jackal]

blox

[simple elk]

They said Msft was higher than zon

[jaunty basalt]

i didnt negotiate msft, but i couldve

it was like 15k higher i think

[teal jackal]

i heard MS can also lowball sometimes

[simple elk]

Msft 190 in Seattle?!?!?!?

[jaunty basalt]

i mean they cant really skimp on the base right cuz thats how you can tell ur level

[bronze nymph]

no

[jaunty basalt]

u can increase stonks and signon

[glad thunder]

I interned at both zon and sf and I think the growth/responsibility is team based

[foggy perch]

roblox without even a debate lmao

roblox pays more

and has better wlb

[simple elk]

If it was 15 higher than Zon student programs then its 190

[jaunty basalt]

this is 2022

not 2023

[mystic glacier]

OA due on 9/22

[bronze nymph]

^

[mystic glacier]

will try my best with the wolf games this time..

[simple elk]

oooooo

[foggy perch]

guess you gotta yolo and do it 🤷

[foggy perch]

nah it's a deer std game

very different

[bronze nymph]

amazon this year is def higher than msft pre nego, but it's not worth it in a lot of cases

also msft has 10k 401k match

[foggy perch]

I feel like most companies have the 401k match

i might be wrong tho

[jaunty basalt]

yeah its literally half the federal limit

[simple elk]

Zon 401k has a vest period RIP

[bronze nymph]

zons is garbage

[foggy perch]

wack

I think bloomberg 401k match is 50% of 15% of your yearly tc?

that's what I was told

[jaunty basalt]

yeah its microsofts but lower cap

[maiden coyote]

I don't know what Roblox looks for while giving OA. Got resume rejected for intern as well as new grad despite faang experience lol

[foggy perch]

are you sure it wasn't your resume grad date issue

[teal jackal]

Rng

[foggy perch]

pretty sure roblox gives oa wihtout looking at resume

then check resumes after oa

[mystic glacier]

if the codesignal score is pending, will it change?

[foggy perch]

since I know for a fact that there was a Resume screening after oa

[hasty birch]

Yup